Director: We saw plutonium from Fukushima out in New Mexico desert — “Local and regional contaminations of plutonium in environment have resulted from nuclear accident”

Published: December 9th, 2013 at 10:48 am ET


Las Cruces Sun-News, Dec. 9, 2013: […] On March 14, CEMRC observed activity from [Fukushima] in their environmental filters. “It took roughly three days (for radioactive material) to come 10,000 miles,” [Russell Hardy, director of the Carlsbad Environmental Monitoring and Research Center in New Mexico] said. “It was low-level activity, below any environmental concern, but we started seeing iodine-131, tellurium and cesium. We know that it came from Fukushima because of when it happened and because each of the nuclear incidents — whether it’s Chernobyl, Fukushima or Three Mile Island — they each use different mixtures in their fuel rods and they have different types of reactors. When they have an incident, they create their own signature. Looking at these ratios of plutonium, americium and cesium, you can determine which event it was tied to.” “The four times that we’ve seen plutonium out in the desert (from a 1960 Atomic Energy Commission underground explosion 12 miles from Carlsbad), as well as the Fukushima incident, just validates that what we’re doing works,” Hardy said.

2011 Report: Carlsbad Environmental Monitoring & Research Center (.pdf):  […] in the event of a nuclear accident like Fukushima, such contaminants could be rapidly dispersed through the atmosphere and spread throughout the environment. […] local and regional contaminations of plutonium in the environment have resulted from nuclear accidents such as Chernobyl and Fukushima. These events resulted in the release of substantial quantities of radioactive contaminants into the global environment […] No detectable concentrations of 238Pu, 239+240Pu or 241Am were detected in any of the 2011 samples. However, a trace amount of cesium (134Cs) and (137Cs) was detected in the March monthly composite samples due to the Fukushima NPP accident in Japan. […]

Then is it “no detectable concentrations” of plutonium were detected from Fukushima as stated in the 2011 report, or “we’ve seen plutonium” from Fukushima as stated in today’s article?

Read the full CEMRC report here (.pdf)

Published: December 9th, 2013 at 10:48 am ET


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142 comments to Director: We saw plutonium from Fukushima out in New Mexico desert — “Local and regional contaminations of plutonium in environment have resulted from nuclear accident”

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Ask the winter birds..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    And some covering up..going on..

    Fire! Los Alamos Laboratories Nuke Center

    June 27 2011

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    June 26 2011 Las Conchas Fire near Los Alamos

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Sure the plutonium..from Fukushima was detected.
    But let's have some real data as to the reasons…for the contamination in the area.

  • "these ratios of PLUTONIUM…"

    “The four times that we’ve seen PLUTONIUM out in the desert…”
    – Hardy said.

    PLUTONIUM fallout.

    They saw it. They knew it. They initially lied.
    They will continue to 'play it down'.

    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      Isn't it fascinating all the reports?

      Of course we knew the reports were happening, we knew they were hiding stuff.. and if you go back in time here at enenews, you will see we knew they would finally tell the truth, but it would be a minimum of two years out.. hahaha, guess we called it all pretty right from the get go..

      It is astonishing though, how many reports from back then are all of a sudden surfacing.

  • Socrates

    Just so long as Muslims didn't do it, it is perfectly safe, and just proves how good their instruments are.

    Now if bad people did this, we would invade Granada.

    • We Not They Finally

      Ha! Zenophobia as an answer to radiation. Love it.

      • Socrates

        Our radiation is good; theirs comes from the "Axis of Evil." This is what POTUS said.

        George W. Bush could not pronounce the word " nuklar." Yeller cake from Nigeria. Git 'em!

        Maybe people need to go back to school and study the dangers of radiation and environmental toxins. How can they vote intelligently?

        Voting Green Party would get rid of nuclear death machines and war. D and/or R will only build more. O has proved that.

        • We Not They Finally

          The last hurrah (well, let's hope not — just doesn't look good) of the Green Party in the U.S. seems to have been the 2000 election fiasco with Ralph Nader. The environmental movement in the U.S. is so shanghaied into the carbon pollution mythology (carbon more dangerous than plutonium, cesium, and strontium? in what universe?) and the country is so corporatized into the two-party disaster, which is turning into ONE party, that it's unclear where America can go with any effectiveness. Well, unless maybe we want to start drinking the TP's hemlock.

  • jec jec

    Just how safe is plutonium? Is it in tiny dust particles which can be breathed in? If a spot of PU in dust is in lungs, or ingested, what happens? Didn't a majority of the actors in a John Wayne movie of the early 70s get radiation contamination from the dust in a desert movie set..and die from cancer? John Wayne included. Just curious….

    • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

      The Conqueror, filmed in 1953 in Snow Canyon. Downwind of Shot Harry. Large fans were used to stir up desert dust for realism.

      More details here:

      • zogerke zogerke

        Slightly OT: I thought a lot of that contamination was also asbestos. The snow in Wizard of Oz (in the field of poppies, to wake up the crew) was pure amosite. I learned that in government mandated asbestos management classes in the 1988 – 1990s…..Lots of asbestos fibers used to show snow, dust, as well as used for fireproofing. That, plus the radiation, plus smoking……ding dong the witch, and everyone else, is dead…..

        • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

          Smoking + asbestos is enough. Although, with tobacco being a bioaccumulator of certain radionuclides, that may be a freebee.

          • unincredulous unincredulous

            Why, she-it, a little asbestos and a little smoking will just make you stronger. Just ask Ann Coulter, she is always talking about a little radiation is better than no radiation. Just makes ya stronger, ya know! Same goes for drowning. If ya survive a drowning often enough, soon you can breathe underwater.

            • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

              Wait; isn't that right along the lines used by the Inquisition when they'd see if a woman would float if they tossed her off a dock, bound & weighted down with rocks?

            • 1555

              It may just be that ET creatures need radiation…LOL ! Not us humans though.

        • 1555

          The John Wayne was exposed to fall out from the Nuclear Weapons test. Period. It is Off topic to imply that somehow his crew was killed by asbestos. Not true.

      • Kashiko Kashiko

        Yes I read that somewhere too

    • HoTaters HoTaters


      Yes, A Green Road website has the documentary re: the actors in John Wayne's "Ghenghis Khan" movie. Well worth watching, IMO.

    • Proton

      "Just how safe is plutonium?"
      – Under no circumstances is plutonium to be considered safe.

    • We Not They Finally

      Arnie Gundersen said that in Seattle, they've been breahing in an average of six hot particles per person per day of plutonium. If just ONE lodges in the lungs, it becomes "an internal emitter" and leads to lung cancer. Though that could take up to 10 or 15 years. We have massive epidemics ahead.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    The EPA closed the monitors reading radiation in Denver after the spike in Denver that went off the chart at 1000 cpm Gross Beta Count Rate on Dec. 5 or 6.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Anne, they have been doing that in California, too, for a long time. Most notably Fresno and Bakersfield. But it seems whenever the Beta counts get too high, or the gamma trend is sharply upward, the data "flatlines" or just isn't there for some period of time.

      Thanks for bringing this to our collective attention.

    • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

      Take a look at the page for California. Scroll down, city by city and watch especially the gross Beta. About half of the stations simply stopped reporting at some point in the last few months. Except Fresno, which is crazy scary. Overall, it almost makes it look as if no one at the EPA really cares about the integrity of their data.

      • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

        Forgot the link:

        (btw, 2 questions about enenews:
        1. Why can't we edit our posts?
        2. Enenews uses the Discus comment system. Any chance of turning on editing and more important, the ability to see our posts on the Discus Dashboard? It would take EneNews from being a reporting system to more of a community, and an organizing nexus if conversations could actually be followed & responded to after they've left the top few. Right now it's rare for threads to continue for more than a few messages, pretty much just a snapshot in time.

        • Socrates

          Fresno is very high in beta. What's up?

          This must be the new normal.

          • rakingmuck

            Fresno has a large a nuclear waste processing plant. Could be why. I suspect that is why Bakersfield is not being reported anywhere as they have a bigger one.

            • Sparky Sparky

              @Rakingmuck, "Fresno has a large nuclear waste processing plant."???? WOW, I did not know that! Do you have a name, specific location or other details? I'd like to look into this. Any info you can provide would be very helpful and much appreciated.

              • Jebus Jebus

                Unless I am missing a low level secure waste dump, California has no nuclear waste processing plants…
                I searched…
                In the interest of accountability, I too, would like a clarification, please.

                • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

                  I've read of signed contracts by Fresno Nuclear Energy Group, LLC., but can't find the original mention of it back in 2010. Here's a post-Fuku update on the project:

                  "To get around the moratorium on nuclear power plants, Fresno Nuclear is now packaging the project as a “water treatment” facility.
                  Pointing out that there is an ocean of water a mile or two under the Valley, Hutson declares that “we have all the water we need. It just has salt in it.” His solution is to pump the water from the underground aquifer and use heat, generated by electricity, to separate the salts. He’s counting on two products that can be sold on the market—water and products made from the salts."

                  What could possibly go wrong?

                  • Sparky Sparky

                    @Crash2Parties, Jebus–There IS a Fresno CA NPP development 1,500 acre "Park" planned, slickly [sickly!] packaged!!! 🙁 Thanks for the tip, RackingMuck, but Oh, I'm horrified!

                    Here's the link:

                    It's all here folks: jobs, boost the economy, education, clean solar and new, more effecient, "safer" clean nuclear energy…. Throw in some desalination and water for all the thirsty farmers. Just suck up somemore groundwater and we can sink the ground and poison all living all the way to Hell.

                    This was dated 2010 and planned to be operational in 2-5 yrs. Hopefully it DIED at the conceptual stage. I'll find out more. Uggghhh!

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      I saw that while searching. It died with Fuku and San Onofre. No updates since 2011.
                      No entity or investor is going to entertain or sustain investment in nuclear power in California after San Onofre was shuttered.
                      No ROI, no investment, period.
                      The only commercial radiation plant left to snuff out in Cali is Diablo…
                      Lets git er done…

      • J.

        Eventually widespread citizen monitoring may provide the most reliable data. provides one possible model for this, and sells a kit to produce a device that measures radiation and uploads via Wi-Fi. I know there are other groups working on this also. I don't know which is best, and I don't know any that have gotten the cost of devices down to a level that's going to make the project go viral. The Safecast b-Geigi Nano — a new gadget you assemble yourself — goes for $450. Not cheap.

    • own_quality

      Interesting. I was seeing levels in Leadville that were 50% higher than "normal" background of 0.016 mR/hr. They were averaging about 0.024 mR/hr on Friday, Dec 6th. I felt weak and very tired all weekend. I actually fell asleep (more like passed out) in my car when I was getting ready to ski on Sunday morning after I dropped my son off at ski school. It was 5 degrees out and I woke up freezing after about an hour. I finally did get out on the slopes, but I was really weak! I met my son for lunch and his instructor said that he was not doing well. He told me that he felt really weak and kept falling down. In the afternoon we both felt a lot better. This morning both of my kids are a mess. My son could barely get out of bed and was in tears when he left for school and I my 3yo has been sleeping all morning.

    • We Not They Finally

      YES. There are many selected cities where the radnet readings are just blank. Like Seattle. Here in Albuquerque, it has spiked as high as 680 CPM but at least they kept the monitor on.

      Not that they are not still measuring in Seattle and Denver Undoubtedly they are, it's just blocked!

      The radnet charts only seem to go up to 1000 CPM.

      By the way for, where anne gave the link of radnet, Michael Collins who runs that website, seems to have disappeared. For nearly a month now.

    • We Not They Finally

      Anne, just checked out the radiation spike in Denver December 5th or so, like you said. It goes clear up past 1000 cpm!

      Though note that in Albuquerque (bad readings ongoing, just not QUITE so bad as Denver) over the same date period, it dives DOWN. There is probably a sub-text about wind currents. It's all scary — it just seem daunting to predict where the spikes will happen.

      Also don' know if that means that in let's say, Seattle, where the chart is just BLANK where the readings are supposed to be, is over 1000 CPM ongoing. Don't know. May be.

  • nedlifromvermont

    Hang in there folks … it is going to be a bumpy ride …

    peace to you 'newsers, everywhere …

    And let the New Year be the year of rapid, worldwide withdrawal from civilian nuclear power.

    It is clearly not worth the risk … the experiment is over … global contamination from these General Electric (and others) insisted-upon monstrosities is no longer a hypothetical …

    Take that, Norman Rasmussen and the rest of you nuke shills at MIT Nuclear Department!

    Nedli out!

    • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

      In other words, unbridled capitalism is dangerous to humanity. Go figure. Communism in the real world didn't work out so great, either. Feifdoms and other top down structures failed too. I would wonder what would come next, but it looks like in a century whoever is left may be revisiting clovis points and have a hunter-gatherer + some local trade for an economic model.

      • We Not They Finally

        Capitalism and democracy are, and always have been, antagonists. "Communism" is a misnomer, as there are no "communes," just central control from the top. The only "pure communism" is probably in the Acts of the Apostles: "And all who believed were together and had all things in common, and imparted to each man as each man had need."

        That would take human altruism. Seems to be in short supply.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        We don't have unbridled capitalism in the US. If we did there would be no nuclear power plants. Nuclear power plants are exorbitantly expensive and cannot exist without huge government subsidies. Also if all the nuclear power plant owners were totally responsible for any liability for mistakes or killing people, again there would be no nuclear power plants. Nuclear energy is the most expensive energy, the most dangerous, and the most responsible for destroying lives and the environment for millions of years.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          You are correct!

        • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

          Except of course, for the military-industrials who happen to own both the defense contractors *and* the corporations that finance and build plants and sell electrical power (and any expensive isotopes that can be used elsewhere). Once they had the ability to lobby freely, even pre-Citizens United, we came one step closer to throwing that bridle away.

    • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

      "And let the New Year be the year of rapid, worldwide withdrawal from civilian nuclear power."

      Looks like they're trying to stay one step ahead of us on that one.

      Wood burning stoves may soon be a thing of the past. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is banning many varieties of the popular rural heating sources. The EPA wants to halt the production and sale of the types of stoves used by approximately 80 percent of the homes that heat at least partially with wood.The regulations limit the amount of “airborne fine-particle matter” to 12 micrograms per cubic meter of air. The current EPA regulations allow for 15 micrograms in the same amount of air space.

      • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

        …because wood soot is as harmful as airborne radio-nuclides, right?

        I'd first check to see how many ex-petroleum execs are at the EPA (and plan to go right back to their old job afterward) before definitively blaming the nuke plant owners.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        This is absolute bullshit and our DNA has breathed in wood smoke for millions of years.. 🙂

        Our DNA never breathed in manmade Radiation Contamination…never ever! 🙁

        This is a direct money scam perpetrated on the civilian populations and nothing else..

        IF you want to ban wood stoves, then all cars and trucks on the road must be banned too at the exact same time…try collecting some more taxes then you morons. 🙁

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          P.S. When the wood stoves go, the cars and trucks go and then all the airplanes up in the sky go too. All space flight will be banned at the exact same time… 🙁

          All at the exact same time! 🙂

          Let's not play the pick and choose game…lets just ban it all! Make it so! Shut it all down!

        • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

          To be clear, wood smoke really is bad for health. We just never hear about it here though, because by far most of the victims are third world women & women living in poverty who have to cook over smokey open fires, often inside of some form of shelter from the elements, using whatever is available for fuel.

          But let's not fall for the legal fallacy that wood smoke makes radioactive particles and safer.

          • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

            'logical' not 'legal' fallacy. Though I could see a corporate attorney using the false argument successfully to convince a jury.

  • Sol Man

    Life with infinite risk.

  • lam335 lam335

    re: "On March 14, CEMRC observed activity from [Fukushima] in their environmental filters. “It took roughly three days (for radioactive material) to come 10,000 miles,” "

    I think I remember the "authorities" telling us after 3/11 that it would take SEVEN days for the stuff to start arriving on the West Coast (arriving on the Friday afternoon of the following week, if I remember correctly).

    Knowingly giving disinformation is immoral.

    And pretending to speak with "authority" if you don't truly "know" beyond a shadow of a doubt is immoral too.

    As is having the information, and choosing to withhold it from the public …

    • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

      Yep. Caught my eye as well. Works out to 277 mph and makes me feel like an idiot for believing their claim of seven days. Seven days only works if the contamination stayed below a few thousand feet and never got boosted up to higher wind speed altitudes.

      But the 40-day cycle we've seen indicates otherwise. At Japan's latitude of 35 N, the circumference of the Earth is about 17745 miles. That works out to 444 mph, or double the 277 mph speed of a seven day trip between Japan and the USA.

      Which in turn would seem to indicate the contamination reached the Jet Stream almost immediately, even given the difference in distance between its path and a straight path.

      Please sanity check my figures…

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        You have been lied to since the day you were born and the only problem is that nobody ever told you that they were all lying to you.. 🙁

      • 1555

        It took only a day and a half for 'fall out" from the old Nevada test site to reach Albany/Renselear in NY state. The high altitude wind had no problem to blow it almost 3,000 miles .

  • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

    That travel time of 3 days from Japan to West Coast/Rockies for various spikes in readings seems to be the average repeated with each Fuku incident. It pretty much takes a 3-4 day window for it to reach us here about 250 miles inland from the east coast.

    Just this weekend I noticed our usually blackish red creosote stained telephone poles have all bleached white. You can see a bit of their former deep color at the base of the poles. I don't remember when that happened or if it happened all of a sudden recently but I took note of it this weekend when I noticed a village block where one type of tree all along the side of the road has its bark peeling off and the tree bleached white. I know all those trees were healthy, lush and full of leaves this summer. When I pointed it out to my husband (yeah, Phil's a girl) who was driving I got to look at the other side of the road and saw one formerly magnificent tree that I know as of just a few months ago was fine. It only appears to be a single type but the speed with which that bark is coming off and bleaching has me spooked.

    • Kassandra

      Optimal prediction has some good posts on radiation and plants.

      Sorry I don't have relevant link at the moment.

  • Lady M

    Crash2Parties — What was the event that made so many of the California readings go 'way up starting at about October 9, 2013? And why did Fresno's soar like that? Do we know?

  • Here is my best case presented to date on how Fukushima was a Nuclear explosion, and the proof of how much uranium and plutonium was "gifted" to the world.

    • Proton

      It's a MOX fizzle well documented in PU bomb failures

    • Socrates


      Great info!

      I knew this from having a few courses in chemistry, physics and biology. Everyone should be lifelong learners. If people would take the time to understand these issues, they could avoid the fates of the beagles who were used in an experiment. Hint: they all died of cancers within a few years….

  • Proton

    Basically they lied about the plutonium 🙁

    Thanks digger for finding & putting the pieces together

  • tsfw tsfw

    I listened to a radio show about 3 months or so ago whereby a pair of scientists set up a simulated lung machine in Seattle -I believe it was 5 hot particles that were discovered inside after a short period of time. Smokers don't bother quitting, you might as well die happy.

    • J.

      Iori Mochizuki recently reported that Japan tobacco has cesium in it. Smokers are concentrating the inhalation of radioactive particles.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    All nuclear radiation kills cells.

    Not part of nature.

    Developed my man to exterminate life.

  • Shaker1

    Hey, HoTaters, maybe Gamma got run over by a reindeer…

  • tsfw tsfw

    Heated debate going on in there and one guy (named wrongwrongwrong) seems to have a lot of scientific garble to back up what he is saying to contradict the idea that it's as dangerous as Caldicott and Gundersen say. This is the problem I think. Most people, like me, cannot fully understand either side so how are we to pick one? I think that's why see so much complacency. I believe you all not because I understand half of what you say, but because I have always always known when I'm being fed a load of crap. And common sense tells me to believe what scientists, independent reporters and whistleblowers have to say, over what the nuclear run media machines tell us, but most people are trained to look to the enemy for comfort, it's easier that way, don't have think for yourself.

    • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

      How to pick a side?

      Qui bono? Who benefits? One side is arguing to maintain its income stream. The other is spiting his potential for income and risking his career to bring us a message.

    • m a x l i

      How to pick a side?

      You can tell the liar from the truth-teller without understanding everything they are saying by looking out for contradictions. If someone says the earth is flat and the next moment he says the earth is round, you have a liar.

    • Let's hope he is right, because if he is wrong and talking out of his A((, we know that EVERYONE on Earth at least in the Northern Hemisphere inhaled a few of these hot plutonium particles per day, and if the dog study means anything, that is NOT a good thing as far as what is coming…

    • We don't have to pick… the experience is either coming or not.

      The only thing we can do is to prepare, or try to prevent it, by doing something, such as chelation therapy, etc…

      But the lungs are one of the hardest to make a difference with.. Anyone have any experience or knowledge with cleaning nano particles and things like tobacco tar out of lungs?

  • Nick

    Fukushima plutonium.

    Dispersed all over the planet.

    Now watch the shills come out and droves to convince us that Plutonium really isn't as nasty as we've
    been led to believe.

    The banana gang…….."You get more radiation from eating a banana than breathing Tokyo air."

    Me thinks the planet is now entering a new phase, one that will cause much grief and suffering.

    No spin will be able to keep this reality at bay for much longer.

    Time to tell our children about their stolen future.

  • American Phoenix57

    “ If you inhale a millionth of a gram of plutonium, the surrounding cells receive a very, very high dose. Most die within that area, because it’s an alpha emitter. The cells on the periphery remain viable. They mutate, and the regulatory genes are damaged. Years later, that person develops cancer. Now, that’s true for radioactive iodine, that goes to the thyroid; cesium-137, that goes to the brain and muscles; strontium-90 goes to bone, causing bone cancer and leukemia. ”
    …“ Nuclear power … creates massive quantities of radioactive waste. There is no way to put it on earth that’s safe. As it leaks into the water over time, it will bioconcentrate in the food chains, in the breast milk, in the fetuses, that are thousands of times more radiosensitive than adults. One x-ray to the pregnant abdomen doubles the incidence of leukemia in the child. And over time, nuclear waste will induce epidemics of cancer, leukemia and genetic disease, and random compulsory genetic engineering. And we’re not the only species with genes, of course. It’s plants and animals. So, this is an absolute catastrophe, the likes of which the world has never seen before. ”
    – Renowned doctor and scientist Dr. Helen Caldicott

  • American Phoenix57

    “ I'll be philosophical. Until about two billion years ago, it was impossible to have any life on earth; that is, there was so much radiation on earth you couldn't have any life, fish or anything. Gradually, about two billion years ago, the amount of radiation on this planet and probably in the entire system reduced and made it possible for some form of life to begin… Now when we go back to using nuclear power, we are creating something which nature tried to destroy to make life possible. ”
    …“ Every time you produce radiation, you produce something that has a certain half-life, in some cases for billions of years. I think the human race is going to wreck itself, and it is important that we get control of this horrible force and try to eliminate it… I do not believe that nuclear power is worth it if it creates radiation. Then you might ask me why do I have nuclear powered ships. That is a necessary evil. I would sink them all. ”
    – Adm. Hyman G. Rickover, the Father of the Nuclear Navy on the hazards of nuclear power in testimony to Congress (28 January 1982).


    Guess Japan doesn't think plutonium is that much of a big deal. They want to go ahead and continue to use nuclear power.

  • American Phoenix57

    “Anything we can do from a policy standpoint that can reduce excessive public concern about an event has huge economic benefits.” If even a small percentage of the people who will be drastically affected by Fukushima become aware of that fact, business as usual will be a thing of the past — and people would become hard to control. – Homeland Security-funded report

    • Nausicaa Nausicaa

      American Phoenix57 can you provide a link to this report?

      • American Phoenix57

        Nausicaa, I got it from here on Enenews, Here is the original post.

        October 22, 2013 at 12:05 pm Log in to Reply

        Homeland Security-funded report says…

        " “Anything we can do from a policy standpoint that can reduce excessive public concern about an event has huge economic benefits.” If even a small percentage of the people who will be drastically affected by Fukushima become aware of that fact, business as usual will be a thing of the past — and people would become hard to control."

        Why Haven’t We Been Told of the Dangerous Situation at Fukushima?
        (I liked the cartoon.)

        Hope it helps.

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          Damn that Paul Revere.

          • bo bo

            One if by sea… two if by land…
            We need three lanterns, fuku is attacking us from both fronts!

            • unincredulous unincredulous

              Paul Revere caused the first great depression, it was a delayed fear reaction.

              Put out the lights, Bo, you are sceering people. Radiation kills people, but TALKING about it or WARNING people about it is bad for the ECONOMY, and that will hurt people and Homeland Nanny will get you.

        • bo bo

          Thanks for the repost AP57, I had missed this great find

  • American Phoenix57

    “there’s far more radiation in each of the cooling pools than there is in each reactor itself…. Now the very short-lived isotopes have decayed away to nothing. But the long-lived ones, the very dangerous ones, Cesium, Strontium, Uranium, Plutonium, Americium, Curium, Neptunium, I mean really dangerous ones, the long-lived ones – that’s what the fuel pools hold.” – physician and nuclear activist Dr Helen Caldicott

  • American Phoenix57

    "We live in a time that a science fiction book would refer to as 'that time when everything had already changed, only people were too scared, too ignorant or too arrogant to understand and they pretended and acted as if everything was still normal and it wasn't." – Libbe HaLevy

  • American Phoenix57

    Sorry for the quote rampage. It happens when I'm speechless.

  • This is my best effort at elucidating the fact that Fukushima was a nuclear explosion of sorts, AND that we were heavily dosed. I think its an important point. I think that knowledge could sway some "swing voters" in the nuclear debate.

    Fukushima WAS a Nuclear Explosion, Here Is The Proof
    The only way that the tens of tons of uranium and plutonium shown by US EPA air samples could occur was if the explosion came from within the reactor vessel, and/or spent fuel pool. So clearly the explosion was a nuclear type of explosion from within. Nuclear promoters have long stated that nuclear plants can't blow up in a nuclear explosion. We know this to be a lie. In fact Chicago's own Argonne National Lab has video from back in the day when it was "cool" to perform open air tests to blow up reactors to prove the nuclear chain reaction can blow up the reactors. The special type of Nuclear Explosion is called a "prompt moderated criticality". cont….here

  • American Phoenix57

    “It may be possible – and tempting – to exploit for strategic political purpose the fruits of research on the brain and on human behavior. Gordon J.F. MacDonald, a geophysicist specializing in problems of warfare, has written that artificially excited electronic strokes ‘could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the earth…In this way, one could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations in selected regions over an extended period.’
    No matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behavior for national advantages to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades.” – Zbigniew Brzezinski, 1970 Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era

    A tad OT but I'm pretty sure they are transmitting mental paralysis. A "sheeple" beam that keeps the majority of red blooded Americans from picking up their torches and pitchforks and kicking some nuclear ass.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Yea, they must be using it now. The people using it, on us, must be catching echoes, from the device; because they be dumber than shit and we are still smart enough to be able to see it.

      I mean, duh, they have been nuking this country and calling the blasts "tests."

      Japan is releasing massive radioactive fallout into our food and water supply, and all they can think about is keeping people calm so they will buy more Japanese products, that are probably radioactive. If my grandfather were able to see the US now, he would have a real bad day.

  • American Phoenix57

    A person who inhales just a few milligrams of plutonium — a barely visible speck — will die in a matter of months due to massive fibrosis of the lungs as delicate lung tissues, bombarded by alpha radiation, develop scar tissue , choking off oxygen to the blood. Death follows from a kind of internal asphyxiation.

    A person inhaling a few micrograms of plutonium — 1/1000th of the amount described in the above paragraph — is likely to develop fatal lung cancer 10 to 20 years after exposure, as some of the cells damaged by alpha radiation begin to multiply uncontrollably.
    – Gordon Edwards, Ph.D., is a mathematician, a consultant, and an activist. He teaches mathematics at Vanier College in Montreal, has acted as a consultant for governmental and non-governmental agencies across Canada, and is President of the Canadian Coalition for Nuclear Responsibility. He and his group actively support the Campaign for Nuclear Phaseout.

  • If you are not scared of nuclear power, there is something wrong..

    It is kind of like being face to face with a killer grizzly bear that is intent on taking your face off, and then eating your head for breakfast in the next 2 seconds…

    There is something wrong with someone who is NOT scared to death of nuclear anything.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      "It is kind of like being face to face with a killer grizzly bear that is intent on taking your face off, and then eating your head for breakfast in the next 2 seconds…"

      Ira Nukefool: "but…but, but, we can burn his dung and boil water with it! I'm sure me wife and children would agree that it is worth the risk."

      …as little Tommy boils water with his magnifying glass and the power of the sun. Mrs. Nukefool boils water on a hot geyser and says, "Oh, sure honey! Whatever you say!"

  • Some people who may be true believers call what ENENews does as "fear porn".. We call it REALITY…

    If you are not afraid when you get to the edge of the 2,000 foot tall cliff and someone is trying to push you off to your death, something is really wrong….

    The Sun God RA-Diation likes to eat and kill true believers with his invisible RAD love beams… equally as well as he likes eating unbelievers. True RAD love knows no discrimination.

    • SadieDog

      @ Dr – "… Elias will be fighting Barnes for what Rhah called the possesion of my soul." The ending monologue from the movie 'Platoon'.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Yes..this is reality! 🙂

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Reality is that you may have to actually listen closely to the babblings of the madman, to know that the man is mad and babbling.

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          P.S. I know that Enenews is not fear porn, because there is no threat condition color coded bar graphs which indicate how turned on you are getting; Leave that to the mainstream media and the military.

          I would say an example of fear porn is what is being done to Edward Snowden, Bradley Manning, and many others. Wow, I know that stuff is giving some one in TPTB a real hard on.

      • flatsville

        obewan, Did you call Int'l Atty. Frances Boyle? What was the result? Leave a message? Plan to call back?

        Apparently Socrates called offered to volunteer. It doesn't sound like he got to speak with Boyle directly.

        Did you?

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          None of my business really, but just curious, are you talking about the Frances Doyle on Wikipedia with this following information? University Of Illinois and this following quote:

          In October 1992 Boyle participated in the International Tribunal of Indigenous Peoples and Oppressed Nationalities in the United States of America that convened in San Francisco. Boyle, acting as a "Special Prosecutor," petitioned the Tribunal to issue the following:

          "An Order proscribing the Federal Government of the United States of America as an International Criminal Conspiracy and a Criminal organization under the Nuremberg Charter, Judgment, and Principles;" and
          "an Order dissolving the Federal Government of the United States of America as a legal and political entity."

          In the conclusion of a 37-point legal brief, Boyle proclaimed that:

          "[the Federal Government of the United States] is hostis humani generis: The enemy of all humankind! For the good of all humanity, this Tribunal must condemn and repudiate the Federal Government of the United States of America and its grotesque vision of a New World Order that is constructed upon warfare, bloodshed, violence, criminality, genocide, racism, colonialism, apartheid, massive violations of fundamental human rights, and the denial of the international legal right of self-determination to the Indigenous Peoples and Peoples of Color living in North America and elsewhere around the world."[7]"

          • flatsville

            unincredulous, Boyle recently wrote an article re: Nuclear and Crimes Against Humanity. (Good artcle.) Atty. Boyle seemed to fit the bill for the one good int'l atty. obewan insists can shut down NPPs globaly instead of thousands of dedicated lawyers and activists "pecking" away at it.

            He posted about this ad nauseum, so I found a possible candidate an even gave him the phone number. Apparently, he hasn't botheted to call and engage Atty. Boyle.

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Now, Now, Flats, it was I that gave you this assignment, so lets be clear, and all you did was post a phone number. You are supposedly the legal word craft guru and I have not heard what Boyle stated when you called him directly. Please Tell! 🙂

              Surely you need to "Raise the Bar" and pecking has not worked at shutting down the entire Nuclear Industry worldwide.. 🙁 In fact they are building more.. 🙁

              • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                Am I incorrect in assuming that an average citizen can have their day in International Court.. without the outside legal presentation ..if all procedure is followed through?
                I is still a right defend oneself in court.
                I'm sure that..the average citizen could send a complaint to the International Crimes Court…and if many people did…the situation would have to catch the attention of the Court.

                • flatsville

                  obewan can't make a phone call and ask for the right person when the number is given to him. I doubt he can do the research to self-file a case before an int'l court.

                  Call Frances Boyle and ask.

                  As I have explained, I don't play in the international arena.

                  Plenty to clean-up within US borders.

                  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                    First it would have to be the right person..probably leave the party in question out of it.. and at the right time.
                    This is a tough and bright crowd..surely someone will stand out in the crowd soon.

              • flatsville

                obewan, Take responsibility for yor own idea. It was your assertion that one good int'l atty. could shut down all the NPPs.

                Don't fall into this enenews trap you've created for yourself.

                Be the One…

                Show us how it's done. Make the call. Do it now!

                Surely you weren't just blowing long and hard regarding such a serious issue?

                (Oh…and I don't take direction or orders from you. I have responsibilities in the reality based world.)

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  If you have not made the call to Boyle then you are not in a reality based world my are in your own Zeitgeist Matrix created world.

                  • flatsville

                    obewan, YOU were the one who claimed one good int'l. atty. could do this. NOT me.

                    I was merely trying to assist and move you off the dime to put up or…whatever…

                    I guess we all now understand the "Farce" is strong with you and your Zeitgeist Matrix is vast.

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      I think..anne a good pick..she is knowledgeable and well versed..

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      If you checked out this guys work you can see he is already on the Nuclear problem, but his plate is pretty full.

                      Cough up his number again since it looks like it got scrubbed..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      PS..Also well respected among Enenewsers.
                      Then it will probably work that 'approved opposition'..will manage to worm it's way in.

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      And no matter who came up with the's a good try and address the International Crimes Court.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      anne would be the correct choice, but Boyle is/has been concentrating on crimes against humanity all over the globe and that is a good thing. 🙂

                      For all these types of human battles that he chooses the big monkey in the room (Nuclear Technology) states that all that work is for naught. Freedom and justice does nothing for a World that is in the process of being destroyed by very Dark Forces.

                      Disease and cancer does not give anyone freedom or justice and it gives all biological life including any human stricken the exact opposite.. 🙁

                      Hopefully this man can pivot his priorities and take on the biggest Monkey in the room.. 🙂

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Good..because..I have other notions of attend

                    • flatsville

                      obewan, The number wasn't scrubbed. It was right there all along. All I had to do was google it, then copy and paste.

                      College of Law
                      504 East Pennsylvania Avenue
                      Champaign, Illinois 61820

                      Phone (217) 333-0931

                      Ask for Frances Boyle. I'm sure they'll direct or connect you.

                      Don't forget to leave a message if necessary.

                      Don't forget to get referrals if Boyle declines or is otherwise engaged.

                      That one good atty. you claim exists must be out there.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    No.. today I had to deal with global warming!

    I had to split several cords of wood and light up 4 wood stoves and stuff them to the max and then set fires to protect my livestock from the flash hard freezing cold temperatures hitting the region.

    Last year Global Warming gave me 30 straight days below freezing requiring emergency plumbing repairs on a daily basis. Only a few pipes have broken this year. 🙂

    I keep a stainless steel cover on my sidewalk and every morning I place a raw egg on it and check to see if it cooked because of the Global Warming we are having, thinking that I might be able to save some energy and the planet if I can cook on it. Nothing yet, but I am hopeful I was not lied too.

    I threw out/donated all my coats years ago when AL Gore told me too! Crap! Sure could use them there winter coats these days as my nipples get hard with the sheer wind chill. Splitting wood in a tea shirt at 28 degrees is not very much fun. I deal with the ice every time I fall on my backside. 🙁

    I wonder how many cords of wood Al Gore cuts each week to keep his gigantic mansion warm?

    You don't think he just walks over and turns that dial up on the thermostat do you? 🙂

    • flatsville

      obewan, Well, sounds like you were too busy yesterday to vette that possibly one good int'l atty. that could shut down all NPP globaly.

      You can try today.

      How can you stand so many attorneys and activists merely "pecking" away at it when you could effect sweeping change with a few phone calls?

      Do it now!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    oops…I meant to say "tee shirt", but I was thinking of tea in the back of my mind, since I was heating up a cup of tea on one of the wood stoves. I do not actually drink tea, but I have figured out that if I warm it up and press it (the cup) against my nipples they seem to thaw out much quicker! 🙂

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Be careful, some teas are radioactive. If you burn your nipples and cuss in Japanese, you know it was from Fukushima.

      Yeah, I believe in global warming, but we aren't getting any round here.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Always protect those nipples.. 🙂

  • Sickputer

    Quoting the nucleorat scientists: "The four times that we've seen plutonium out in the desert (from a 1960 Atomic Energy Commission underground explosion 12 miles from Carlsbad), as well as the Fukushima incident, just validates that what we're doing works," Hardy said. "Most of the time we see zero, and that's a good thing, but if there ever were a release, we would be able see it and with the data that we have, be able to determine where it came from."

    SP: They had the data, didn't warn the public. The statement incriminates them, but there is no infictment, judge, of jury for the thugs in government. Amazing they admitted it, they must feel the shit is really out of control now so nobody in Washington cares about loose lips.

    Sheeple asleep are a tiny impediment to the power of out of control governments. You just got served sheeple…you are fodder for the sharks (if you go swimming in the infected water). Chomp! Their food is dying fast, so man is now on the menu.

  • Nemo Me Impune Lacessit Stax

    I know several people trying hard to inform everyone via YouTube-BeautifulGirlByDana gets my personal approval,he is an ex dive-master living in British Columbia and is very informative-does about an hour vid every day since the 7•3 Earthquake on October 25th please check his channel as its an informative hour well spent-then vent ones spleen at the sheeple on google+-most of whom think chemtrails are 'beautiful' (as I cant afford geiger counter I just 'look up' if there are heavy trails-plume inbound!)
    Peace 😉