Fairewinds President: Organic farm in Portland stopped producing food after radiation tests — “Very frightening what happened on West Coast” (VIDEO)

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Title: Maggie Gundersen speaks at UVM regarding similarities between VY and Fukushima Daiichi
Source: Fairewinds Associates, Inc
Filmed by: CCTV
Date: March 12, 2012

Maggie Gundersen, founder and president of the Burlington, VT-based Fairewinds Associates, a paralegal and expert witness firm specializing in issues of nuclear reliability issues, Jared Margolis, Attorney for the New England Coalition and Environmental Law professor at UVM and Chris Williams, organizer with the Vermont Citizens Awareness Network give a panel presentation for Vermont Student Towards Environmental Protection at the University of Vermont,, Billings North Lounge, March 2012.

Filmed by CCTV, Mrs. Gundersen spoke about the similarities between Vermont Yankee, a GE Mark I boiling water reactor, and the reactors that suffered catastrophic containment failures at the Fukushima Daiichi facility in Japan a year ago.

Watch the full video here: http://fairewinds.com/maggie-gundersen-speaks-uvm

Click the play button below to watch the 3-minute clip:

Maggie Gundersen at 59:00 – 1:01:49 in

  • There was a lot of fallout that came to this country
  • A lot of radiation came down in rain
  • British Columbia, Seattle… that whole Washington, Oregon, part of California
  • We know of an organic farm in Portland that is not selling or producing anything anymore because he tested a lot of radiation on his farm
  • Hawaii had tainted fruit and milk, there’s a lot of radiation there
  • Very frightening what happened on the West Coast

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61 comments to Fairewinds President: Organic farm in Portland stopped producing food after radiation tests — “Very frightening what happened on West Coast” (VIDEO)

  • Well the truths are coming out as hard as it may be to them who were not aware !

    Many here knew, and warned whom would listen !

    And it gets worse folks ! It's still coming and will be for centuries !

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    Summer last year I posted a site giving unexplained deaths of people. younger and middle aged dieing unexpectedly during sporting events, the number's were staggering since 3/11

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    I would give you 2 Ȼ for the States, Countries she mentioned


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    • Hemisfear311 Hemisfear311

      Well said xdrfox,

      The truth is indeed coming out, thanks to enenews and other sites, and the truth may be very hard to accept.

      As Pink Floyd put it, in "Sheep":

      "…
      That's what you get for pretending the danger's not real.
      Meek and obedient you follow the leader
      Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.
      What a surprise!
      A look of terminal shock in your eyes.
      Now things are really what they seem.
      No, this is not a bad dream.
      …"


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      • Hemisfear311,
        I believe the latest executive order the prez signed to take over recourses during even during PEACE TIME is that it may be because lands that are Not contaminated may be targets for gov take overs for their use as needed !

        If we have farms being ID'd as radioactive they can not be used safely for food while them that are not will be high priority for food growth ! Who will eat from what farms ? Who will be told safe from not safe foods ! Think it's bad in Japan ? It's here !

        There are hidden reasons for the orders being made now just like the new after birth abortions for deformed children !


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  • charlie3

    I bought a health supplement at the health food store a few days ago, and I got around to reading the small print today before opening it – the "organic" ingredients included berried from washington state and chlorella from Japan, where the algae is grown in large open-air pools.
    All I could think of was the cesium, strontium, plutonium and so on that was probably floating down onto those things from fukushima.
    The impact on food and the economy will eventually be huge. It's dreadful – the west coast is (was) the most beautiful and nature-oriented place in the world.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    U.S. and Canada turned off their monitoring systems and said "everything was ok".


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  • kintaman kintaman

    Listening to the below interview with Arnie it really sounds like he is downplaying what has transpired in Japan:

    http://fairewinds.com/content/kexp-903-fm-seattle-gundersen-implications-fukushima-daiichi-and-risks-northwest

    He is saying the worst is over for Japan unless the SFP of unit #4 collapses. I do not agree with this at all. The worst has yet to come IMO.


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    • Sure in term of long term health damage.

      And damage to Shinto and Buddhist way of life and psyche which respect nature.

      How can you respect nature when you are covering it in radioactivity and heavy metals.


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    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      Thanks Kintaman, for stating it this way. I do not think the worst is over yet either. I respect and feel grateful to Arnie, but I can't help but feel the tragedy continues.


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      • Anthony Anthony

        The only way Arnie gets to keep freely speaking is by keeping the message calm. I can`t recall any of his messages which downplayed his concern about the pools! He`s one of the few who has kept speaking during this whole thing. I think if he was to rabble-rouse and cause great concern his whole ability to communicate will be clamped down upon.


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    • That's the feeling I got. I'm sure we've all been there before – when you're the only one in the room who knows the truth but can't express it fully due to the sheer weight of stupidity and denial that surrounds you.

      You can't cast pearls before swine.

      He has to tread carefully, surround himself with as much support as possible and hope the people pretending to support him are still following as he does frequent shoulder checks.

      That is, he may look back for his supporters and find they've all disappeared on him – leaving him all alone.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Nothing is over for Japan.

    Their "Nuclear Radiation Contamination Nightmare" has just begun.

    Their problem will be trying to hide all the contamination evidence for the next 100 years.

    They need to abandon all Nuclear Power immediately and remove all radioactive fuel and related technology off their islands before more plants explode releasing increased massive amounts of Radiation Contamination all over their remaining population.

    Save what you can, why you can, before its to late, Mother Earth waits for no one!

    Act Quickly and Act now!


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  • bleep_hits_blades

    kintaman, go to non-nuclear discussion group for link to very interesting article. For some reason a certain subject is 'ganz verboten' on this website anywhere but (grudgingly)there, making me wonder about (possible unstated) agendas here. I will say no more but there does seem to be an 'issue' here.


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  • Keen

    I have great respect for the Gundersen's and other such people like Christopher Busby as well as any scientist or person with knowladge and integrity that is able to discern matters of importance. I would like to know what farm decided not to grow produce and what levels were detected. Are these same people attaining all their food from a different region of the country or world? Are they dependent on their farm?. I am wondering if Maggie would have said the same thing if she were speaking to an audience in Oregon instead of Vermont. I have many questions and unfortunately this one source does not answer them. I suppose my biggest concern is how much plutonium has been spread through the environment. Though I have been following this closely I have not seen the plutonium amounts well quantified by anybody, even in Japan! I have seen many allusions to plutonium but not much quantification. It more than anything is the important question concerning what has come out of Fukushima that concerns me. I live in Washington. I have not yet sold the farm and probably I won't. I am more concerned about what could happen from the next major solar event. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itaaO9mKFQo And I am hopeful and concerned for the people of japan. Chernobyl did not spell the end for most people in Russia and I still think this wont spell the end for most people in Japan. Again, it is this solar tsunami question that I am most concerned about. even for the idled nuclear plants.


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    • I'm an organic grower in the mountains of NC. I'm also an ex-nuke HP, so have a Geiger-Muller and an RM-14 low level desktop (plug-in) detector. As the plumes came through last spring it quickly became clear that my very promising early crops were going to come in contaminated. So I trashed them (no composting) and kept most of the beds fallow (in weeds) even after the iodine levels went way down. Cesium was my concern, and accompanying strontium. Didn't compost the leaf-fall last fall either, nor did we bother to harvest the pears, apples, peaches or grapes.

      The 'magic' of good drainage (from terraced beds on a mountainside) and big weeds have done their thing, levels are back to background everywhere but along the drainage paths. Where I'll have to plant horseradish one of these days to bioremediate. Fallout does accumulate along drainage paths and into low-lying areas over time, and there are a lot of shallow and deep-rooted weeds that will bind cesium/strontium and any stray heavy metals (uranium, plutonium, cobalt). So it's a mistake to write off the land entirely after a bout of hefty fallout, you just have to give it time to leech into the drain paths and absorbed by the growing things (don't eat any of them). The perennials will have to be replaced – rhubarb, echinacea, asparagus, artichokes, etc. The fruit trees and grapes are at the top of the slope, crops should be okay this year (but I'll check them anyway).


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      • aigeezer aigeezer

        JoyB, do you have any specific advice on handling radon washout, perhaps as a separate issue from Fukushima radiation? I had never paid attention to the former, but it looks like both are going to be with us for a long time.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDCw-HEPOlM


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        • Radon's going to come from the decay of those heavy metal isotopes, including U238 – which will make up the largest portion of heavy metals released from the reactors and fuel pools. Waiting for those to wash out is best, but planting taproots like dandelion and horseradish (even pigweed, but who plants THAT stuff!?) and letting them go a couple of seasons before removing will help get the metals out. I think regular monitoring of the beds is essential, don't forget the paper trick for detecting alpha. If you suspect significant radon, take good precautions before working in it – like an actual well-filtered gas mask rather than those not very useful surgical masks.

          And if after a rotation or two or three if there's still enough radiation along drainage pathways to really worry about, you can go ahead and remove the soil down to where it's no longer reading high. Again, the work should be done with ample protection – coveralls, taped to boots and gloves, hood and mask. Be careful, you don't want to just spread it all around again…


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          • aigeezer aigeezer

            Thanks, JoyB I've got several seasonal streams and some ephemeral wetlands. I'll start to test the drainage routes and see how things go from there.

            I planted a lot of comfrey a while back, planning to use the big leaves for compost – I'd better test them later in the season – those roots go deep. It's snowing here today so I can wait a while longer – last week the grass was green.


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      • ion jean ion jean

        How can someone get their soil tested in the Northeast? I am thinking of sunflowers to pull out some isotopes around my organic veggies and herbs…

        I'm on quite a limited budget…was gonna treat soil with lime and calcium chloride…can't afford to replace chamomile and echinacea…how much do they uptake?

        Would love to know more tips for Vermont growers!!


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        • ion jean ion jean

          Have a small kit handheld geiger, I've had heightened air readings and rainwater, but never picked up anything from soil, plants or food I've tested.


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        • Hi, Jean. Your Geiger should give you a good indication of whether or not you need to have your soil further tested. Fallout is kind of odd in that it can deposit here or there and entirely miss places in between. Plus, if you've good hills or mountains between you and the path direction, it may miss you entirely. I didn't excavate soil to test, just ran the probe right above ground level and also took regular readings at 1 and 2 meters height (to see what was in the air).

          God a good enough level of iodine last March/April to make me trash the greens, but it was the cesiums I was worried about. The beds were reading about three times normal background all summer, that's gonna be cesium. So I let the weeds and rains do their thing and skipped food growing last year. Now the beds are back to normal except in the drain paths. Planting shallow rooted veggies. Levels are low enough where I'm not too concerned unless we get another big blow.

          To test plants, I'd suggest drying a portion of the greenery weighed (exact) to some fraction of a kilogram fresh. Once dry, crumble it and put it in as small a container as will hold it, open the beta shield on the probe and stick it right into the dried matter. Monitor for 5 minutes, jotting average level for every minute. Once you've got that average per-minute, multiply it by 60 and that'll give you a fair becquerel reading. Multiply by whatever figure will bring the matter up to a kilogram (by 2 if you dried half a kg), that will give you Bq/kg.

          Of course, my old G-M has a probe and reads in CPM rather than CPS. Adjust accordingly for your equipment… Good luck!


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          • The above will just give you a beta/gamma reading, it will not tell you what isotopes are present. If you wrap a thin piece of paper (onionskin thin) around the probe with the beta shield open and do the whole thing again, the difference in activity will indicate whether or not you've got alpha to worry about. The paper will stop some low-energy beta, so don't get too alarmed by a relatively small differential.

            There won't be iodine at this point. There will be cesiums – 134 and 137. Possibly strontium (pure beta-emitter). If the levels have you concerned, call or go see a prof or grad student at your nearest college/university that has a rad lab and ask if they'll do a read on energy levels and break that down for you. Many of them will, it's good teaching material. Some of them will do it for you on the sly too if they have to, so FDA and whoever else is watching doesn't find out they're doing it and shut them down quick…


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  • Kevin Kevin

    Geez,

    Being from BC, they said there was nothing to worry about.

    "Miniscule" amounts " no health impacts" they said.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi Kevin

      We heard that also. How many Miniscule amounts do you have to breath in, before it impacts the health? Have we gotten our so called safe limit yet?


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  • Sam

    No doubt about the west coast of America and British Columbia saturated in fall out.
    It wold be good to get some up to date readings on the amounts of cesium, strontium,
    etc in the soils and produce coming from farms that feed the nation from the West Coast.
    I am not optimistic in getting this information as it is the official policy to keep us all
    in the dark. What about the milk, cheese, kale, spinach, lettuces, apples, peaches,
    melons, almonds, lamb, beef, chickens, eggs, tomatoes, egg plant, onions, potatoes,
    etc…..?


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    • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

      Sam: Two problems:
      1. Government wants to protect the nuclear industry. The NRC (see NRC FOIA transcripts from March, 2011) famously moved to silence labs in US Federal Government that wanted to release information to the public on radiation plumes causing fallout in US. These crinimals actually discussed why it was important to consider the costs (to the nuclear industry) of "doing the right thing" (informing the public about dangerous fallout.) The NRC quickly moved to silence any use of radiation monitoring equipment owned by the US government to inform the American people about Fuku radiation building up in US soil and food and seafood. We anti-nukes must demand that arrests be made of the key NRC officials who initiated this conspiracy of silence.
      2. American universities (a list of them has been published here recently) have the equipment to test for radiation in soils and food products, but many public universities are members of the Nuclear Industry Association, and will protect the interests of their nuclear industry funders. Do not expect major universities to do the testing, nor inform the public. We anti-nukes must demand that radiation monitoring equipment owned by public universities be obligated to monitor radiation in local soils, food, and seafood, and make this information freely available to the public.

      So we are, in fact, on our own in terms of testing soils and produce for radiation. This can be accomplished by a few dedicated individuals with some affordable equipment. Look for websites outlining such efforts to come to your computer soon. In the meantime, try one of those delicious fried North Pacific Cod Filets on special at your local seafood restaurant. Hmmm, good! (but not good for you!)


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      • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

        @philipupnorth

        "…arrests be made of the key NRC officials who initiated this conspiracy of silence."

        I believe if you read all the released FOIA material, you will find that they received orders from much higher up to cover it up. The NRC didn't initiate it, but they did what they were told to do.

        Hey, just following orders didn't work in Germany but apparently it is condoned by those who are responsible for that order to the NRC here.


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      • Consider also the government interest in protecting Big Ag. California's Central Valley produces a large portion of our non-grain vegetables, nuts and fruits. It is likely well more contaminated than the Texas-Florida veggie swath, but the government will protect them too. I am avoiding crops from eastern NC because it got so contaminated from Charlotte to Raleigh and the coast that EPA shut down the monitors early on. Sticking with locally grown from here in the mountains as much as possible.


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  • many moons

    The only way to know what really has happened in the states is to start checking ourselves…we will never know any other way. It will never be revealed by the authorities …they will continue with their trace amonts, poses no health problem, Japan is a long way from California, Fukushima is fine attitude. People seem to be waitnig for information to come out….it will never come out-or it will come out way after it doesn't matter. In Tokyo there is much more radiation than is being revealed, and much more the authorities hhaven't even looked for yet…we need to do our own testing and come to our own conclutions.


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi many moons, I agree. I wonder how much it would cost to set up a network of monitoring posts on private properties. I bet Arnie Gundersen would be offering his help to identify the most useful spots to install them, so one could start maybe with 5 stations per community – and build a larger network over time.
      People interested in receiving the data could pay a monthly amount to cover equipment costs?
      The system at our town runs since 1986, only on donations and the workforce of a few dedicated people.


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      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        If you're interested, I could ask them how much effort it was to set everything up back then and how they manage their data…


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        • many moons

          That is so reassuring to know…yes please, lets start organizing and stop wondering!!!!! Please let us know the details of how we can begin to monitor!!!!
          I had no idea that in Germany the communities have set this up for themselves!!!


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          • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

            Hi many moons, I'd love to help you out with some info and will post it in the "rad monitoring" thread if I have spoken to the guys.
            Actually, it's not the community who runs the system, but a group of concerned citizens. They call themselves MAUS (Messen Für Aktiven Umweltschutz) and set the system up when Cattenom (the 4 reactor French NPP) went online in 1986. They set monitoring posts up on private property in France as well as in Germany and have been moniotoring ever since.
            These are the data sheets we can see online (this one's for last week):
            http://www.maus-trier.de/m_2012/C_1W_15m.PNG


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  • many moons

    wow…that's is perfect…we can follow your already existing plan, I'm sure that will facilitate not only in operation but concept…wonderful. I'll be looking for your post…Thank you.


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      • aigeezer aigeezer

        B&B and many moons, I'm guessing you already know about this crowd-source radiation monitoring site, but in case you don't:

        http://radiationnetwork.com/

        My Geiger counter is plugged into it 24/7 and anyone can look at the real-time results from every network user.

        The problems with this network, as I see it, are that it is much too sparse so far (growing pains); stations are randomly located (anyone who happens to own a counter and happens to connect to the network), and I think the public can only see a US map (as a contributing user I can see a worldwide map).

        It's a start though, and much better than the governments have been providing.


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    Quote: They turned off their monitoring system and said all was ok.

    I believe they just turned it off for the public, but the big wigs knew the levels, they would want to know where and when it was safer, and when to leave the area.

    In this Country we protect our Presidents, they would want to know if it was safe for him. Even the White house has radiation detectors.


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  • many moons

    An dwhere was our President during this nuclear disaster????

    He quickly left for the southern hemisphere with his family for 10 days.


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      The "western leaders" all seem to be in Asia right now, many of them are sabre-rattling over Korea. The Canadian PM gave a photo op from Tokyo yesterday. I can't reconcile this behavior with the claims that they are all saving their own skins by hiding from radiation.

      As I see it, either they think the risks are minimal (hard to believe), or they are being very noble and setting aside issues of their personal safety (even harder to believe) or… the thrill of their "Masters of the Universe" game is just too strong and they don't even notice little things like radiation when there is the prospect of missiles to launch and new countries to bomb and occupy.

      March 26:

      "World leaders including US President Barack Obama are meeting in Seoul for a summit officially focused on nuclear terrorism."

      http://www.dawn.com/2012/03/26/japan-to-deploy-patriot-missiles-in-tokyo.html

      Gotta love the summit title.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    I won't buy anything from Japan. And will not be purchasing food items from the U.S. West Coast (because of radiation). And won't be visiting either place. And won't be going anywhere that gets rain or snow. Isn't nuclear power neat?


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    • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

      The Big Picture: +1. ;-)


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    • Sam

      you may want to reconsider the rationale of your exclusions. the fall out deposition
      has been all over North America, especially on West Coast. hard to know what farm
      produce to avoid as the soils have cesium etc. in them. do stay out of the rain and snow.
      you should come out West as it is still lovely here. people are great! life goes on and
      there is love out there when you don't exclude but embrace. i am definitely not buying
      any food or fish from Japan and Asia.


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  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    Sam: OTOH, we recently heard here that CA, OR, and WA are getting an ongoing dose of 5 hotparticles per day in food and air, about half of the 10 hotparticle daily dose a resident of Tokyo gets. Arnie Gundersen has an xray of what lung tissue damage from a hotparticle looks like, in a great video on this topic on his website Fairewinds.com. Even one hotparticle can cause cancer. Why are we ENEnews regulars so alarmed by Fuku? What do you think are your chances of enjoying for very long all that love out west there?


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    • Sam

      Are you so sure that you too are not breathing in hot particles where ever you live.
      We all are living on borrowed time in my humble estimation. Come visit the West Coast-
      it is truly beautiful before it gets far far worse whenever the SPFP 4 crashes down in an
      earthquake. You have written very detailed accounts of the situation of SPFP 4 of which there
      seems to be no permanent fix.
      If you have been following the deposition patterns over North America
      there is truly no spot "safe." It is just your illusion that you are safer than we are here
      on the West Coast. Enjoy the air and water and produce where you live. I will do the same
      here in California till I die of something. I am not afraid of Death.


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  • CB CB

    With pollen season here, the pollen will have the radiculines in
    them. So a refallout is imminent. At least try to protect your self from the pollen. There is not a filter small enough to stop its pass through into trees, plants, grass. Try to keep up on the pollen count in your area.


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  • voltscommissar

    Level with us, Maggie Gundersen!!!!

    Maggie said: >>They have known for 38 years about how the bolts stretch, and the lid "lifts off" the main pressure vessel.< < But other nuclear experts now in the anti-(civil)-nuclear camp, such as Kenneth Bergeron ("tritium on Ice" 2002) have described something much worse that a simple hydrogen explosion, and it's called Direct Containment Heating (DCH).

    If you read the detailed technical descriptions of DCH in Bergeron's book, it reads to me like the best explanation yet of what we all witnessed on 15th March 2011, when F-Daiichi Unit 3 blew up. Basically the DCH scenario is virtual simultaneous failure of the pressure vessel <i>and the containment structures, with much of the molten fuel in a highly liquid state being sprayed throughout the containment from a small "melt-through" hole in the base of the pressure vessel.

    Having read Bergeron's description I now feel I understand how a so-called "hydrogen" explosion can be such a dark dirty plume. The Gundersens should IMO give a detailed technical explanation of why they think we witnessed a "hydrogen" explosion and not a catastrophic DCH event. The amount of atomized fuel released over the Pacific Ocean is probably 2 orders of magnitude greater with DCH than with a relatively slow-moving corium eating its way into the bedrock, after an alleged hydrogen explosion. Sure there was lots of hydrogen from the reacted zirconium cladding, but I'm arguing it all came out in the same "devil's ejaculate" in the instant when the molten fuel (under enormous pressure) ate through the base of the RPV.

    In fact Bergeron's detailed DCH explanation is entirely consistent with what Maggie said about the RPV "taking off" and needing to be held down with massive straps, so really she is describing DCH, only she's calling it a hydrogen explosion, so as not to scare us too much. Leave placation to TEPCO and the NRC. Maggie and Arnie, level with the ppl living near…


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  • Sam

    Here in norther california we are experiencing in the beginning of Spring like last year an
    incredibly wet time with cloudy and rainy days forecast till mid April. I would liken this
    to a mini nuclear winter from all the ionized radiation from Fukushima plus the intense
    solar flares all of which do affect cloud formation. We need sun to grow the crops.
    Time will only tell how long this pattern will persist into the Spring. I do hope that the
    phrase mini nuclear winter does not become the reality this Spring and Summer. With the
    reports coming out of the corium underground emitting ionizing radiation along
    with everything else emitting and incinerated is not good. Nice way to start another gloomy
    rainy day here. the land I was to plant early spring crops is totally saturated with water.

    Was in Costco and a new item they are selling. A fish taco kit with pre-cooked Alaskan Cod
    Guess they have to find ways to sell the" cesium" infused Cod off of Alaska. Wish we knew
    the levels of fish caught in Alaskan waters. Too much at stake to tell us!


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  • CaptD CaptD

    Seen this from Fairewinds:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/san-onofre-power-plant-mi_n_1382620.html

    (JUST AS I POSTED 6:21 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012, see ABOVE near top) on the OC Patch…

    I'll also send to HP, my comment there in in moderation…

    Southern California heating up as public and utility head for face-off over repairs
    http://wp.me/p21p6a-884
    SNIP
    A report authored by Fairewinds Associates warns that a more detailed study is needed on the alloy tubing in the plant’s steam generators before the twin reactors at San Onofre are restarted, according to The Associated Press. The utility that runs California’s San Onofre nuclear plant misled federal regulators about equipment and design changes that are the likely cause of extensive wear on tubing that carries radioactive water, a report commissioned by an environmental group claimed Tuesday.


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  • isogoodhumans

    What farm? Where is the data? What levels? We should be past hiding by anonymity, otherwise we have a long way to go. At least they could anonymously issue the test results. Shameful.


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    • Sam

      This is an alarmist headline; we know there has been cesium deposition
      but how much and where is the question?
      To say " Very Frightening" is like yelling fire in a crowded theatre!
      Please more date about that farm in Portland—- administrator.


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      • 9Venetta6

        Using a quote in context… for shame! ALARMIST! SPeaking of quotes: "Is this not an ELE event on going in slow motion. Perhaps Tacomagrove was telling us some disturbing truths last Spring." -Sam lol


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Cesium levels are over EPA limit and lawsuits will entail. This is just the beginning.


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