Famous Actor: Fukushima is dumping nuclear fuel into Pacific — Plutonium “named after devil” — View of nuclear advocate “a little sociopathic” — Entire biosphere at risk from these poisons fatal to everything with replicating cells (VIDEOS)

Published: February 2nd, 2014 at 7:48 pm ET


Peter Coyote, Wikipedia: American actor, author, director, screenwriter and narrator of films, theatre, television and audio books. His voice work includes narrating the opening ceremony of the 2002 Winter Olympics and Apple’s iPad campaign. He has also served as on-camera co-host of the 2000 Oscar telecasts [and won an] Emmy for narration in 1992 […] [“Coyote is most famous for his 50-plus movie roles, including E.T.’s sympathetic scientist” –Source]

Peter Coyote question to nuclear energy advocate Stewart Brand (h/t Gar Smith): What I find disturbing and sort of a little sociopathic about your perspective is the absence of doubt. […] You are willing to risk the entire commons by introducing a biocide that’s fatal to everything with replicating cells. That stays deadly longer than all human history […] the half-life of plutonium is over 100,000 years, and I can only see the reason is to support this culture. So my question to you is, in the light of such risk, which will be enduring forever […] why are you not willing to entertain all the prior precautionary steps […] rather than continuing the model of centralized power, centralized sale, and keeping us consumers, at the risk of the entire biosphere? (audience applause)

Peter Coyote at the Commonwealth Club of California, May 2013: Actor Peter Coyote imagines that the scientists behind the Manhattan Project didn’t anticipate the global disasters of nuclear energy like Fukushima’s radioactive spill.

Peter Coyote: After Hiroshima and Nagasaki, if Oppenheimer and the scientists said, ‘There’s no reason that this substance named after the devil, should be promulgated in our culture. We can’t control it. We’re asking ourselves to be perfect, in a universe where people say ‘oops’ every day.’  […] had they said that, we would not have tons and tons of nuclear fuel leaking into the rivers in Hanford Washington, leaking into the Tennessee Valley Authority — all over the world piling up, dumping into the ocean in Japan. […] Had they just asked themselves, we’re creating a permanently toxic poison that’s antithetical to anything with replicating cells, are we sophisticated enough, capable enough to leash this on the universe.’ I think wisdom might have had second thoughts, and said, ‘I don’t think we are.’

Watch the Commonwealth Club interview here
Watch the question to Stewart Brand here

Published: February 2nd, 2014 at 7:48 pm ET


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214 comments to Famous Actor: Fukushima is dumping nuclear fuel into Pacific — Plutonium “named after devil” — View of nuclear advocate “a little sociopathic” — Entire biosphere at risk from these poisons fatal to everything with replicating cells (VIDEOS)

  • "[…] sort of a little sociopathic […]"

    • papacares papacares

      so that would explain this


      Fukushima Radiation causing U.S. Insurance Companies to EXCLUDE all Coverage for Radiation Claims
      Sunday, 02 February 2014 00:21

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          This particular fact should be brought up at least once a week on Enenews. People should be asked to provide any information regarding this lack nuclear radiation coverage.

          from the two linked items provided by Papacares and SykeWar, above, it appears that even though the government subsidized nuclear power plants in getting them some insurance, the power plants have not been able to get private insurance, and even if there is some private insurance it becomes void in the event of nuclear radiation coming from overseas.

          The Price-Anderson act has one giant loophole: The act only applies to US companies, apparently. So unless approved by a global legal institution, No government framework for insurance will apply without loopholes. The tyranny of nuke power demands a global government.

          I say it's not worth it. End nuclear power plants planet wide. What a scam. All liability is on the citizens and all profit is for the nuclear industry. Any claim you file against nuclear damage will be denied due to past or radiation contamination in a foreign company.

          What a total scam alert.

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Two more good links that are no less than pieces of the puzzle called, how to profit from and not be liable for damages done in the ongoing Extinction Level Event. This is a long planed Event, and all the stop measures are in place, as demonstrated in these links.


        • WhiteTiger WhiteTiger

          We have zero solutions to this. The radiation is still coming out of the plant to the air and the radiation from the sea will evaporate in hundreds of years into clouds and rain everywhere.

          The simple plan is that you make a closed atmoshpere inside your home with plants – also then when in some time you have purified ground where the plants grow, you can truly have organic food to yourself.


          Seems like most of the people working with this are just eager to enjoy their fearporn games.

          I am very disapoint to see even Mochizuki Iori blocking me from facebook for presenting this idea, which could save lives:


          I am asking you enenews: are you going to block me also or are you going to work with me? Why dont you make a small article about the idea. Even the poorest of us can afford getting seeds and soil, some energysaving lamps to produce photosynthesis indoors.

          • orsobubu orsobubu

            White Tiger, I read your FB article, and realized you first-hand experimented what marxists know very well since more than 150 years: you cannot rely on existing capitalistic structures to make a revolution. Internet is a BIG capitalistic stucture, because main server-nodes, main news sites, main social networks, main telephone companies are obviously owned by bourgeoise, and they will never permit ordinary working people to seize the power. They will first censor if you insist, then shut down everything if conditions get worse, then switch to military solutions when the status quo needs to be restored: you saw this phenomenon recently in Egypt, Lybia, etc. Exploited classes need to organize own, independent structures rooted on physical territories instead of sticking with virtual communities, these are too much easy to neutralize.

            • jcfougere jcfougere

              "you cannot rely on existing capitalistic structures to make a revolution"

              Fu(king spot on..

              To quote MCR:
              "Until you change the way money works, you change NOTHING"

    • deaddolphins simonhhh

      Peter Coyote asked a series of informed questions that can NEVER be answered by any number of sociopaths….here in lies the conundrum that will ultimately destroy all life on our little blue planet…………

      • deaddolphins simonhhh

        By the way, as an aside, the Jap Whalers…under the cover/guise of "Scientific Research" continue to persistently slaughter protected species of Minke Whales and ram the "Sea Shepherd" ships in the Southern Ocean…Together with FUKU they seem psychopathic-ly intent on killing everything in the sea…

        • Homolumina Homolumina

          Oh Simonhh, you are taking the words right out of my mouth. For over 30 years I have been collecting signatures, tracking down the mailing addresses of Jap Gov and Embassador, writing protest letters with signatures I collected by going from door to door, written with a mechanical typewriter… and still – they are doing it and I do not want to tell you how I feel about this and the Japanese culture, they are now bringing us all down because of their collective insanity and that without the criminals in power and control being held accountable !!!

    • hogy

      See this article in today's Guardian about projected increases in cancer rates worldwide. It says nothing, nada, about the Fuk-U-shima created isotope pollution of worldwide air and seas.
      But then, the UK is committed forever to the nuke industry, no matter their pollution of the Irish Sea via Sellafield. Who cares? People die: the mental set of all those favoring nuke anything. Hanford, anyone?

      • Homolumina Homolumina

        Hogy, after reading this I was so outraged about that "journalist" writing this crap up, I had to write her a letter and I did. It is posted in another stream here. Thank you for sharing and I will keep the forum informed in case I get a response.

      • whatamessa

        Hogy My thoughts exactly,this inaction,evasion,misspeaking by may governments is very strange,there has to be more than meets the eye going on and no doubt there are other countries involved in this cover up!!

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    As proven by Fukushima, Chernobyl, and several other meltdowns.

    And all for nothing, as reactors aren't needed.

    Totally not needed.

  • Ontological Ontological

    They mentioned the P word, sure was plenty to go around in the R 3 detonation. These ELEments were deposited world wide to some degree.

    One Plutonium plant did this, there are hundreds of NPP's world wide. Were gonna run thousands of these fuel pools world wide for 50 to 60 more years of HUGE power glutting cooling costs, while they expect to extract MORE Plutonium, without cleaning up the global mess already left behind so far from 70 years of this lunacy, right. Efficient clean power? Right. Check.

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      It all makes sense.

      More bankster puppetology to cause this.

      We have been played maybe, but where else can there be the freedom to gather all related info at, and to vent the feelings and experiences about the fuckushima event? It has to be somewhere. Why not Enenews?


    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Are you saying there is no evidence of an earthquake on 311?

      We have all seen the many many videos. Liquifaction, streets ripped up, Japan moved 8 inches, earth moved off it's axis, buildings shaken, etc etc etc.

      I think 911 was an "inside" job, (WTC building 6and 7, and just look at the gang in the white house) but I can't buy this one.

    • flatsville

      It turned to BS right here-

      >>>Contrary to what many out there are saying, Fukushima Diiachi was an extremely well run nuclear facility with everything in top notch condition.<<<

      It was anything but well run and had a troubled history.

      It was a disaster waiting to happen based on where it was sited for starters.

      • flatsville

        Stone claims it was "extremely well run" and in "top notch condition" which begs the question if he isn't a nuclear shill in "truth-teller" clothing.

        • weegokiburi weegokiburi

          Top notch condition? Beyond nonsense. 1979 dieing engineer who built it wrote an exposé.
          The translation is solid. My wife is Japanese.
          I've posted this link before but I will continue to reference it for those who missed it. Its a long painful read
          Extremely well run?
          Over 200 documented admitted incidences of falsified record keeping prior to the disaster doesn't sounding well run to me?

          How many more unadmitted?

          • flatsville

            Agreed. Thanks for posting those links. That's what I recall reading.

            It was a disaster waiting to happen since inception including reactor design and plant siting…not to mention later operation.

            I'm sure the next NPP accident on US soil will be follwed by all manner of wing-nut explanations…when the simple truth will be that poorly designed, poorly sited, poorly operated and maintained reactors go bad.

            TMI was relatively new when it shot craps.

  • Angela_R

    "Watch the question to Peter Brand here" is a short, three+ minute clip. It addresses the 'condition of man,' who lives on a dot in the Universe.

    While some once sought to be God,
    some now believe they are.

    • atomicistheword

      Pride (stolen esteem) is the downfall of Man. For what is the mark of a man? 666.

      It was written by the Saints and prophets, one whom you would expect to live will die and one that you would expect to die will live. Atomic radiation does not discriminate. Like the man manufactured AIDS virus, it sees no gender or social status.

      More actors and musicians will begin to testify before the Satan empire, YHWH has broken the feet of the dogs. Protect them and share in their curse!!!

      99% vs 1% pretty good odds?

      Ironically Mr Tesla had your answer to power generation, but Westinghouse and your government hid his knowledge from becoming a reality. After all we have to sell our copper wires and rape earth of all resources.

      • Angela_R

        hi atomicistheword,
        religious comments are considered off topic, however:

        this website is about energy and the word energy to me is the same as the old word – 'spirit', i.e. if one is spirited, one is said to be full of energy.

        The word 'devil' has been mentioned. The prime aim when splitting the atom was power and destruction. This process lead to the production of Plutonium, named after 'THAT – BAD ENERGY!'

        • atomicistheword

          Some religions require dissassociation from the universal energy they claim to believe in. These people have forgotten the universal power that drives our universe and our associations to that power.

          Energy does not die it simply changes form. To what form that takes our race is currently unqualified to judge.

          There are higher races, but even these beings they disbelieve in.

          Religion serves to control and distort good living, what distinguishes us from animals. These beings are known as bestial beings, reversed in humane nature. One could say the devil is more in some religion than out.

          Like those before us we must speak in parable so that they may understand.

          Best wishes

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Tesla's was a good idea. Free power. But the wireless transmission of power, the radiation would fry our I.Q.s I fear. Just a recent worry. I read reports that low levels of radiation hurt human I.Q.s

        Then again, free power would be great, and it's not like we are not getting our share of wi fi radiation anyway. It's just that we are billed for it. Seems like our cars would be running on wireless energy. It would be pretty darn awesome. Looks like we are all going to be nuclear powered to death in the name of profit for the 1 percent. So, I say the heck with it, lets all do the Tesla.

  • sayonara kitty sayonara kitty

    bluetick, i have seen references to this story about the "no earthquake" theory… since then i have searched many times on youtube and other sites trying to find real proof of an 9 earthquake before the tsunami. ive never found any, when i view other verified 9 quakes the places are just leveled. the japanese tsunami footage shows buildings intact. what i find so distressing is that (and this is just my personal opinion), if it was caused by a "terroristic act", stuxnet or DEW, then i am left believing that due to the extreme blackout of information about fukushima, that the US and Israel are most likely to blame. and you know, honestly i kinda really do believe that anyway, but this sickening feeling comes over me when i really acknowledge it.
    so, if the situation is uncontrollable, then before i die, the one thing i want to see more than anything is for the true perpetrators of 9/11 and 3/11 be held accountable.

    • We should consider anything possible these days. Anything.
      Years ago, I would have sent my current self to a mental asylum for telling many "crazy" things that today I consider to be true beyond any doubt.

    • mairs mairs

      Oh please. This is ridiculous.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Yes, how do you suppose the tsunami was generated? And what about all the live video footage from all over northern Honshu, showing the effects of the quake, as it was occurring? What about the videos showing the ground liquefying in locations all over northern Honshu? Are you guys in touch with reality? Do you think that many separate accounts are from people who could be delusional?

    • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

      I can not see what the USA would have to gain; but I remember reading that Israel had some feud with Japan. Still even if the USA did have something to gain the price would be very high. But for Israel there would be of course no moral or ethical considerations.

      Consider this: Journalist Accuses Israel of Fukushima Sabotage

      and this: Secret US-Israeli Nuke Transfers
      Led To Fukushima Blasts http://www.rense.com/general94/secbb.htm

      and this: The Argument that Fukushima Was Sabotaged http://www.maxkeiseronfacebook.com/the-argument-that-fukushima-was-sabotaged.html

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      SayonaraKitty, did you happen to review the geological and earthquake data? The seismograph reports? Did you make an effort to look at real scientific reports about the earthquake? Please, you just can't make up things like 9.0 earthquakes which kills tens of thousands of people, and make half millions homeless. And then report it internationally, and expect there not to be a major backlash.

      The sign language interpretor at Nelson Mandela's memorial service (and the furor it caused) is a good case in point.

      • weegokiburi weegokiburi

        The idea of no big quake is just plain silly.
        Being in Tokyo on the day it happened I can assure you it was a monster quake.
        There were over 150 aftershocks in the first 24 hrs.
        Even between shocks the ground didn't stop trembling. A glass of water on the table looked like it was sitting on the hood of a running car.
        There is ample footage of damage on video
        I've linked a couple.
        I can't believe all this was faked a la 'Capricorn 5.'

        http://youtu.be/xxNivz3APdc Chiba refinery fire near Tokyo

        http://youtu.be/f-U1WShFkD8 earth slip and liquefaction.

        There is more footage of this quake than any other in history

    • Just to make this clear: I am not saying I believe in this. I'm just saying that nothing can possibly shock my any more.
      As I said before: it is important to understand the backgrounds, but or primary goal must be to isolate Fukushima from the rest of the world above as well as below the ground. If the geenie won't go back to the bottle voluntarily, we'll have to build a bottle around the geenie. Totally easy….. NOT.

      • bo bo

        I know the quake happened because of accounts from friends and family.
        Facebook updates, e mails, phone calls ( after communication recovered).

        But if you did not know any personal connection to Japan, given the strange nature of news these days, I wouldn't judge anybody so quickly for being a 'conspiracy theorist'
        and shrug off their attempts to turn over each stone before taking in official accounts.

        Questioning if the quake really happened or not is a bit on the extreme side, but who is to judge? I have a lot of sympathy for that. Many judge me for being on the extreme side for questioning if bombs really exploded at the marathon in Boston. I'm not saying that I know for sure that it was not a bomb. I'm just turning over each stone. Seeing those news clips of bloody people and wondering if that was real – that's a bit extreme and most people judge me. But they were not there. I was 20 ft from the explosion. I have many questions about that event. Sorry I'm now officially stuck right back into my off topic ditch.

        • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

          Good post. Clearly something generated the Tsunami. What may be fairly questioned is how great the earthquake was. And also why people along the coast did not get a warning or an adequate one. How fast did the Tsunami travel and how far? Despite the personal experiencing of an earthquake, the magnitude may have been exaggerated. Are we 100% clear on the events of that day? I don't think so.

          • Homolumina Homolumina

            How do you think about this here as the cause of what is going on ? We are moving through the galactic equator and are being bombarded by intense cosmic particles and radiation which causes all celestial bodies to grow rapidly now – it is worth to get all the data from Neal Adams – his model makes the most sense to me. Please watch his stunning animation here:


            Who also has some interesting physics to share is Nassim Haramein – check out his "Resonance Project" on Youtube and online.

        • bo bo

          To be clear though – as fukugeddon says – I am not questioning if the quake happened. And as weegokiburi states, there are clearly many recordings, not just newsclips. I'm just saying, given the current strangeness of news we are being fed today, I have geat sympathy for sayonara kitty for feeling this deep distrust.

          • bo bo

            Sayonara Kitty – this is the best video that I have seen so far, which takes you to that day. Seen from a surfer's point of view. These boys happened to be on the beach making videos of themselves surfing in a town just outside Fukushima Daiichi. Poignant.


          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            Its pretty certain that plate tectonics creates ongoing earthquakes and associated tsunamis. It is interesting that Max Keizer goes with a created tsunami theory. So it brings up a question; Could a nuclear explosion under the ocean have set off the earthquake, or contributed to the tsunami?

            I dont have enough information to completely refute such a theory. Is there a full expose on the geology and seismic data that suggests an unusual happening? Does it even matter if there was a bomb that initiated the event?

            Here is a photo of the Great Kanto Earthquake which was magnitude 7.9 to 8.2. This is a lot smaller than the magnitude 9 of 2011.


            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Its easy to see why some people think the data doesnt all fit. A scientific American article mentions that some data sources and models fit and some dont.


              Here is a photographer making a book documenting the disaster called black tsunami

              black tsunami

              Its interesting to wonder about the black water. Are all tsunamis black? Krakatoa had black tsunamis. Ive noticed black water in nuclear bomb tests also. Check this little video showing the power of a nuclear bomb. The first second shows a black plume. Seeing the power, its easy to imagine that a nuclear explosion could set off a larger earthquake that was already primed by plate tectonics


              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                It seems probable that the earthquake and tsunami were "natural" events that didnt require human initiation. The apparent minimal destruction of the magnitude 9 earthquake might be explainable by the location of its epicenter, better building construction etc.

                But this does not take anything away from the influence of man on the nuclear disaster. Governments around the world are pro-nuclear and its clear as crystal that international health organizations, and government affiliated science institutions are covering up for the government/corporations that seek to profit from nuclear. Its been pointed out that there is an inseparable link between nuclear plants and weapons.

                So in the end, the corruption, secrecy and psychopathic behavior is as large a factor in the Fukushima and other nuclear disasters, whether or not a bomb initiated the tsunami.

        • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA


    • 4Yahshua

      2~4~5995 (out of 6000) in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!

      9/11? Project of this 33 year Bush Senior New World Order under The Vatican Christian CROSS (Revelation 13:18). This is the meaning of the #666 in the Greek Diaglott translation (free on The Web).

      The Biblical "Mark of the Beast" from the Greek has become the name "Jesus Christ" which contains a CROSS, also a Greek letter called a "hex" (X as in Xmas!) The wise saints are saved and sealed in the Names of the Father and Son: Yahweh and Yahshua, Revelation 14:1. HalleluYah! (Transliterated ancient Hebrew: Praise ye Yah!)

      Some say that 9/11 was the modern version of the Reichstag bombing of Hitler's day. Search: Bush Nazi Family Connections. And, yes, 9/11 is often also blamed on the Jews! Many believe that H.A.A.R.P. (another invention in the Bush era along with FEMA camps) caused the earthquake on 3~11. Bush Senior decades ago announced that he wanted the world population down to 600 million. The answers ARE available but they must be searched for. Don't wait for the MSM!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Finally some one that gets it and whom has the balls to ask/question why these Nuke Pukes and their created cult followers are all insane.. 🙂

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yummy! 🙂

  • Socrates

    Harvey Wasserman emailed a new article around about 50 reasons nuclear sucks.


    • flatsville

      Millstone and Diablo Canyon have recently had events. I think it will take another incident like TMI on US soil to get Americans' attention.

      My understanding is that Fuku has not resulted in any significant increase in anti-nuke group membership aside from all the keyboard pounding 3 yrs. later.

      If a plant on either coast or near Chicago has to get into real trouble and start spewing, well, so be it.

      It's a matter of time.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Yes, it is now a scientific fact that another will blow and it is only a matter of time.. 🙁

        Just how stupid are those that are given the honor to lead us?

        It would appear they are no different from/than the general populations.. 🙁

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        I see an uptick myself esp in California , they are as active as ever and they are spreading awareness throughout the country .

  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    Jim Stone's work seems impeccable. It is important to read in the last mentioned site above. If he is right, and why go to all this trouble to just create trouble for himself, then our analyses so far are rather off the mark. If Israel did do what he says, then Israel needs to be boycotted off the map. There needs in effect to be an end to Israel. Hopefully a peaceful end. But the world community can not tolerate a nation behaving like a criminal gang. Who will be next?

    • We Not They Finally

      A lot of countries need to be boycotted off the map over this. But it includes the U.S. We're just not sure what we are calling "the U.S." by now. Corporate cabals seem to be running the place, with many or most Americans clueless.

      So that would not be a viable plan….

      I've suggested in posts myself, that Japan be thrown into international receivership. But that's just because it is currently Ground Zero, and positioned to keep doing irrevocable harm. Also doing NOTHING to mitigate that lethal harm to the whole world.

      At the same time, there seems to be NO international body without huge corruption, or having any intent to do the right thing.

      Growing up, I knew the world had problems and needed citizens' vigilant eyes. I just never ever thought that we would wind up like THIS. God help us all.

  • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

    I'd like to comment to the second video as the first seems to require payment. I'd like to point out in that video, that the same fundamental statement is made time and again, that the continued thrust towards greater and greater dependence on more and more centralized (monopolized) control with less and less stable forms of life support is purely antithetical to life in any qualitative sense. But you see, there is the crux of the matter before us all. If your life, my life, your children's lives, are worth little or nothing, then all of this makes perfect sense, doesn't it? These motherless bastards, these incubi, care not a bit for any one of you, not one iota! And soon, this will be true collectively… globally.


    • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

      A number of persons have been making this point for a long time. Unless you have the right brain structure it seems like criminal behavior. The sort of thing that Buddha, Christ, Mohammed, etc. opposed in their day. Our problem is conscience.
      Those without conscience like some of our recent Presidents take all this destruction in stride.

    • zogerke zogerke

      @sykewar 2/2/14 10.22 pm: TY for posting this coyote question snippet video. resonates deeply with me, appreciate opportunity to watch & listen.

  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    So those predatory powers that run the world are happy to have us sweating and worrying about the consequences of an earthquake which may not have happened that created a Tsunami that would not have done the damage with out help from Stuxnet and a little help from some devices planted by the Israeli security personnel that left just in time to miss all the fun.
    If true this scenario sounds more like the way the world operates. Never pass up a chance to destroy people. Did we paste Nazi on the wrong bunch after all?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    It's probably more like that we are all Nazis and nobody told us.. 🙁

    • atomicistheword

      Someone once said give to ceaser what belongs to him, yet they changed his name, just like general electric changed the name atomic.

      They swear an oath to the god that they trust!

      Some even believe in standing by and watching the earth be destroyed in the hope of being rescued by a man invented imposter God. How many rowing boats does man need to see his folly? Simi, sl1, Chernobyl, 3 mile…… Fukushima?

      Maybe were all Fukushimad (pardon the pun) 🙁

      • atomicistheword

        Ceasar, human made auto-correct keyboard. Grrrrrrrr

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Biggest bullshit line ever written.. 🙁
        "Someone once said give to ceaser what belongs to him"

        • atomicistheword

          obe, my friend, collection of wealth and concentration is causing the destruction of this current civilisation. A civilisation requires the flow of wealth in a recirculated manner. Greed and pride, the enemy of humanity, has built its perfect titanic. In God we trust.

          Where is their God now?

          Who is the holder of this paper God?

          Will the holder of this paper God give it up to save humanity?

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            The perpetrated myth that would guarantee that the dollar would roar through many successive empires.. 🙁

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Wikipedia – "Render unto Caesar" is the beginning of a phrase attributed to Jesus in the synoptic gospels, which reads in full, "Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" (Ἀπόδοτε οὖν τὰ Καίσαρος Καίσαρι καὶ τὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῷ Θεῷ.[Matthew 22:21]

    • Project Paper Clip; USA Imported And Hired Hundreds Of Nazi War Criminals To Develop Nuclear Industry; via @AGreenRoad

      Nuclear Bombs, Nuclear Weapons, Nuclear War

      • We Not They Finally

        Ever heard the expression, "The Nazis didn't lose the war. They just changed uniforms"? There is some disturbing truth in that.

        And the U.S. may still have the cutting edge on energy technologies — just using them for evil instead of good. A most INCREDIBLE person to look up (we just discovered her ourselves) is Dr. Judy Wood. Who meticulously details all the energetic anomalies around 9-1-1 (like tritium found, but with NO ionizing radiation — and much more) and makes a great case for cold fusion being in play. But is also quite concerned that it could be used for FREE ENERGY, not to kill people.

  • Gasser Gasser

    Me: God, can I ask You a question?

    God: Sure fragile mortal Son.

    Me: Promise You won't blow a Halo circuitry?

    God: I promise, I got a heavy duty pissed off mortal fuze box.

    Me: Why are you willing to risk the entire world by allowing a biocide that's fatal to everything with replicating cells, why did you allow sociopathic scientist invent bad Nuclear shit for it to evolve into an ELE ?

    God: What do you mean?

    Me: Well, now I wake up everyday with a metallic taste, and all my friends have died.

    God: Yes.

    Me: I'm sick as MOX hell, and my brain takes forever to start processing.

    God: Okay go on?

    Me: Today at lunch the lady had a nose bleed that made my sandwich, dripping blood on it, then she replaced the slice with one that mysteriously dropped on the floor.

    God: So?

    Me: On the way home, stuck in freeway traffic, I've heard no MSM news of the three Fukushima Corium's burning their way into Hell's magma waiting room.

    God: And?

    Me: And to top it all off, when I got home, I just wanted to check enenews Fuku up dates and try not to get pissed off. BUT my computer didn't work!!! in reality nothing went right for billon's of us today! Why do you let stupid shit like this happen?


    • Gasser Gasser


      God: Let me see, I have a huge shortage of honest Angel's, though my Son the rebel TEPCO death angel Pluto was at your bed this morning & I had to send one of my NRC Angels to battle him for your life, but that Angel got side tracked by a NFL super bowl game, sorry about you almost dying along that bad terrifying delirium you went through, but hey ma man your Alka-Seltzer worked somewhat.

      Me (pissed off): OH Holy shit that was nasty.

      God: Careful son, dirty words can pollute you.

      GOD: My local Universe Angel didn't let your computer start because there was a socref bot on enenews that would have flushed you down their bad thought toilet, but, hey dude, humanity has pumped me up to big, I'm almost as powerless as you, but I did save a ghetto kitty from a PitBull once.

      Me: I kind of figured that.

      God: The person who made your sandwich today was Cesium sick & I didn't want you to get contaminated, that's why she quickly replaced the bloody bread slice with the one the health Angel purposely kicked on the floor to get her attention to quickly pick it up, allowing the three second germ rule for your benefit, I knew you couldn't afford to miss work so you could make your first Obama Care Cancer installment payment.

      Me (embarrassed):Okay

      God: Your iphone burned up because the person that was calling was Pro Nuke with a shill comeback sheet, sorry about that, my new homeless draftee Angel got antsy and pushed the wrong anti nuke button…

      • Gasser Gasser


        Me (softly): hummm I see God.

        God: Oh and them Nuclear reactors, I had to let them bad boys freewill choice evolve, mortals won't stop having baby's and demanded more electricity from my errant Son's Pluto and Uranium the MOX brothers, they didn't want you to be in the dark and start fear praying to me, they want all the attention.

        Me: I'm Sorry God, we don't want to over load you spiritual circuitry, I hope this doesn't happen on other planets?

        God: Don't be sorry, just learn to ignore the bullshit I've been pumped up to be in all things, the good the bad & the ugly.

        Me: Thanks God, I will trust no one from now on, period!

        God: And my plan for you today is not as good as your mortal anti Nuclear plans for tomorrow.

        Me: Ok cool, I always had that gut feeling, but let me just say this to you God, all your mortal sheepel's are eating Iodine/Cesium/Plutonium grass fed Cows and may soon Radioactively Cheese Burger die, overwhelming your Pearly Gates, pissed off from the slow agonizing death they had to go through…Got security?


        • Gasser Gasser


          God: Thanks for the warning my child. Its been just another day being your God and I Love looking at My Children down there eating Banana's and going Banana's trying to find a way out of this self chosen ELE…I myself could never find a way to harness them pesky Becquereling Plutonium Uranium MOX brother Son's of mine plus all my whore Isotopic Actinide Daughter's. I hope you mortals can find away to kick some sociopathic and psychopathic scientist anus's, good luck, your on your evolving mental wisdom commonsense own.

          ~Gasser Classic~

          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            "Why are you willing to risk the entire world by allowing a biocide that's fatal to everything with replicating cells, why did you allow sociopathic scientist invent bad Nuclear shit for it to evolve into an ELE ?"

            God: Hey, I didn't start this, you did. I sent you tons of messages, didn't you get them?

            You: uhhh….. no… no… maybe, hang on I gotta finish this game.. (beep boop)..Damn! What were you saying? So ya, like I was saying, how come you didn't save me from taking a wrong turn and driving on to those railroad tracks?

            God: (playing… well God I guess)…. hang on…. gotta finish this new galaxy…. done! So, ya I saw you following your GPS onto the tracks (thinks: moron). I was laughing my ass off. After all if you died, I'd bring you back as a lawyer or something. Ya death doesn't mean the same thing to me as it does you. But then you were always too selfish to consider that.

            God: Do you honestly believe you'd do EVERYTHING say? Moses can't leave you alone in the desert a few weeks and not come back without finding you making idols, helping sheep over the fence, all manner of nasty stuff. And this was right after freeing you from the Egyptians for Christ's sake.

            You: Who?

            CONT'D NEXT

        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          God: Nevermind. Listen, if I save you I gotta save them. And if I save them, I gotta save those others. Then before you know it, I'm saving everybody…. from themselves. You don't listen to your own parents. What chance to do I've got? Then I gotta back up everything with a magic trick to show I mean business. Then it'll be more and more and it'll never end. I may be God but I don't have the patience of a saint.

          God: If it's any consolation, I feel for you, I really do. That's why I said I was sorry I created you. Not that it was a mistake, just that I was sorry. But always remember: I've given you all you need… each other. If you take care of each other, as you should, you won't need me. It's your choice.

          You: ?

      • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

        "Why are you willing to risk the entire world by allowing a biocide that's fatal to everything with replicating cells, why did you allow sociopathic scientist invent bad Nuclear shit for it to evolve into an ELE ?"

        God: Hey, I didn't start this, you did. I sent you tons of messages, didn't you get them?

        You: uhhh….. no… no… maybe, hang on I gotta finish this game.. (beep boop)..Damn! What were you saying? So ya, like I was saying, how come you didn't save me from taking a wrong turn and driving on to those railroad tracks?

        God: (playing… well God I guess)…. hang on…. gotta finish this new galaxy…. done! So, ya I saw you following your GPS onto the tracks (thinks: moron). I was laughing my ass off. After all if you died, I'd bring you back as a lawyer or something. Ya death doesn't mean the same thing to me as it does you. But then you were always too selfish to consider that.

        God: Do you honestly believe you'd do EVERYTHING say? Moses can't leave you alone in the desert a few weeks and not come back without finding you making idols, helping sheep over the fence, all manner of nasty stuff. And this was right after freeing you from the Egyptians for Christ's sake.

        You: Who?

        CONT'D NEXT

    • jan

      Gasser There is no god.

      • Angela_R

        Jan, "Gasser there is no god"

        Jan, if I thought you really knew what you were talking about, I would ask:

        have you any idea how arrogant that sounds?"

        An unseen speck on a dot in the Universe declares "there is no God."

        • jan

          I think its just as arogant as claiming there is one .
          Universe is not god.

          • Angela_R

            "I think its just as arrogant as claiming there is one."

            Well this speck did not know
            this speck was an agnostic.
            This speck found

            But if you do not find, how can be sure that there is no God?

            • jan

              How can you be sure that there is one ?

              • Homolumina Homolumina

                Jan, thank you for bringing this up ! This is brilliant – you just demonstrate what the sickness is at the root of the problem of those who have through their decisions brought us globally to this point – and not because I am a feminist, I am not, but because it is the truth, those responsible for the global pollution, exploitation and destruction, bringing is close to extinction, are without exception males. And their sickness is exactly the disconnect you too – of course – demonstrate – the disconnect from one's inner self, which is a spark of the Divine. If you would have had a near death experience, which is a crucial piece of the process of male initiation, you would simply be connected to that part of who you are in your essence and you would for once not be able to make decisions that destroy life in any way, and you would not doubt the existence of God, since you would be realized IN God. The solution to our global misery is to initiate men again, as it was done in ancient times and beyond, and the information about this whole process is found in the body itself. Joseph Campbell had tracked this truth but never made the conclusion.

                • jan

                  owwww we can be banned . I was warned by VanneV not to discuss this subject even on Off topic forum . Sorry Homolumina.

            • jan

              I am not sure if this kind of subject is allowed here . Maybe its better to move the subject to OT section .

            • zogerke zogerke

              at risk of OT bigtime (true dat): i do not believe in deity, jan, others, i EXPERIENCE deity daily. experience.

              and i believe my experiences.

              you are welcome to believe yours.


    • bo bo

      Gasser Syke – hilarious 😀
      Thank you

      • Gasser Gasser

        Mahalo Bo and others for wisely seeing, the talk God story dark humor.

        FYI> I was at one time a Reverend for years, but soon after 9/11/01 I woke up one morning and slapped myself on the forehead hard, realizing there is no God as us God abandoned mortals portray this supposed primary Deity of all creation, if anything at all, some stupid Ego shits (like us) screwed up big time, blowing up "their" Qualified Absolute Master Universe Nuclear power supply, and now we are like a sophisticated Cyanobacteria (their scattered stem cell body parts) clinging on the blast particles still hurtling through space repeating ancient history~~~~end of think big story.

        Smile at this dark insight or get pissed off, we are all on this (no one left out) piece of shit planet killing each other off to survive each atto second of every heart beat consumerism money making moment.

        • zogerke zogerke

          gasser, i have always- since being a kid- thought humans were a huge errant form of brilliant YEAST. You know- how you make booze. Sugar plus liquid/ fruit juice, etc and the yeast swim about releasing alcohols happily …but let the stuff sit too long and you get vinegar. Eventually the yeast create so much waste product they die in their own excrement. To me that sounded awfully familiar to the human situation….

        • bo bo

          Gasser too bad you're not a reverend any more… I'm not religious but your congregation I would have attended.

          • jan

            heyyyy Everyone is talking about religion while i am warned not to do it . That is not fair.

            • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

              jan…would you like some cheese with your whine?

              • jan

                What kind of cheese? 🙂
                I just do not like people turning this into a god and creation issue and all that fairy tales about how world was created 5000 years ago and all the other lies .

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  Love cheese, love milk, but won't touch it, since it's from a cow and now loaded with Nuclear Radiation Contamination from all the Nuclear Industry mishaps, boondoggles, explosions, bomb tests, waste dumping, medical facilities etc. etc.! 🙁

                  Is there anything we can eat anymore?

                  I drive down the road past hundreds of cows and I have never ever seen one human laying on the ground under one cow.. sucking on a nipple! 🙁

                  Maybe someday a human will/might surprise me though! 🙂

                  Whine-wine are the same..correct! 🙂 Both are radioactive now!

            • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

              UH OH! Here comes a flock of WAH WAHs!

        • jan

          Gasser Is this allowed ? Can we talk about god and religion on this OT forum?

          • Gasser Gasser

            Discuss God! nope! been there done that….let me remind you Jan, your "no God" retort started these funny OT comebacks.

  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    Yes, indeedy, Gasser. ELEs used to be acts of nature, of the cosmos, things like comets, meteors, CMEs, etc. But now, ELEs are man-made. Humans created these ELEs, ergo it is up to humans to stop human-made ELEs. It is possible, but the first step is to get EGO and vain concepts of individual self preservation out of the way.
    Buon Jiorno!

  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    So are we dutiful anti-nuclear peasants being fed a mixture of truth and falsity to keep us busy and confused. You know people like Gundersen would know if there were funny business from day one. But they might be under threats of various sorts. 'So, Arnie, play along and nothing bad will happen. No foul winds will blow your way.'

    And blokes like the UC Berkeley physicist would only need the word grant mentioned a few times to catch on. Smart guy. Differential equations fleeting through his mind all the time.

    So what about the 9 earthquake? Russia would know. China would. Etc. would know. We would be in the dark though.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      tsfw, Excellent! I am pretty sure we have to realize that we do not need government anymore since it is not doing its job. Time to replace the old and bring in the new.. 🙂

      We all have the right as humans and biological life to do and should be able to do the following..

      #1 Eat dirt with out fear of pollution.
      #2 Breath air without the fear of pollution.
      #3 Drink water from any source, ground, air, rain, snow without fear of pollution.
      #4 Eat food grown anywhere on this planet without fear of pollution.

      If the government is not working for life then it is working for death..pretty simple really! 🙁

      • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

        Re: #'s 1,2,3 & 4….where's the profit in that?

      • We Not They Finally

        obewan, just try to remember that "government" is a very big place. And in America, "libertarian" usually just means LICENSE; plus we all need roads and hospitals and schools. Children alone need safety nets that only government provides.

        The feds have handled (or rather, FAILED to handle) all this despicably. But that's been INSTITUTIONALIZED, also PRIVATIZED by the greedy. So just "doing away with government" may be as much a problem as a solution.

        I don't have the answers. Nor do I think that "preventing panic" is any reason to not educate people, moreover to not care what happens or do anything for the public good. I just fear how easy it would be to descend into anarchy.

        Possibly best for people to act LOCALLY.

      • Homolumina Homolumina

        All male dominated, patriarchial societies, run by non initiated males, are death oriented by their very nature. Initiating our males, especially those who claim power, is the solution at the very root of the problems we have today. I am saying this since 1994, since I found out. I have this all written down, as it is supposed to be published in "The Black Book for Men" by David Fabricius, but I do not know when it will be published. If anyone wants to know details I am happy to share. Please let me know. Male initiation is a necessity and it has a form, a sequence of events which is all laid out in the male body itself. I am NOT sharing any personal opinion here. This incident at Fukushima is the result of thousands of years of abuse of power and control by immature, territorial, goal oriented, aggressive, competitive, forming Cronyisms, death oriented, hierarchically structured, non initiated males. In order to have a change from the bottom up – in order for humanity to have a chance – men need to be initiated. And that is all I come back to, when I look at the WHY !

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Good luck with that one.. 🙂 I have to go shopping now! 🙂

        • jan

          Homolumina I do not understand what you mean by men being initiated but i totally agree with you about the rest .

          • Homolumina Homolumina

            By men being initiated I mean that our males need to live out their live according to their nature, and part of it is to be initiated as going through a sequence of events where you experience brotherhood of men, hierarchical order and your place, movement and security within it, finding out who you are by being challenged to your limits by being send on a journey (the he roe's journey), finding your place within your team and contribute with your uniqueness to the success of your mission, being chosen and scrutinized and then going through a near death experience and being transformed through reconnecting with life at its raw core and re-emerge as the man you are supposed to gem, a co-creator with life. This all is not understood and done anymore, since this knowledge has been corrupted by the catholic church many thousand years ago. And today we face the end result.

            • jan

              Out of the ordinary way of thinking .
              I cant say i would agree on near death experience but i am totally against religion in all forms .

              • Homolumina Homolumina

                Jan I had a near death experience and I know what I am talking about. It completely transforms you and connects you with the Source within. Even my biochemistry was changed after this event, so I know. A near death experience changes the way your brain processes information. Religion is an instrument for politicians and clerical patriarchal organizations, I agree with you. I am talking about a spiritual, transformational personal EXPERIENCE which has absolutely NOTHING to do with religion.

                • jan

                  Wow . Was that a near death experience as part of an initiation ?

                  • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                    Give it a try.

                  • Homolumina Homolumina

                    Jan, no, I am female, I do not need to be initiated (does not mean women are better off, we are just different with different spiritual needs), but I had a near death experience, which is a crucial part in an initiation, so I know what it does to you and can comprehend what an initiated male is like… My sense is that some here on this forum had their brushes with the Divine too…

                    • Angela_R

                      "Near death experience" 🙂 well my heart stopped twice. Do I qualify?
                      Actually now that I think of it, it is likely that it had stopped more times than that, because of a condition I was left with after an illness at 11 years of age. Disembodied spirit anyone?

      • tsfw tsfw

        Obe amen! It IS that simple.

  • atomicistheword

    Gasser, Lol.

    You know your supposed to have conversations with GOD in private. Didn't they teach you anything in sun worship day school. Come to think of it, all I was taught was if you play with it you'll go blind. I am vision impaired, but not by playing with it, but eating GMO food and trusting in my government to protect me.

    I'm Australian and a self confessed…… Oh I don't think your allowed to say it here!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    I can't see shit either! 🙂

  • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

    The human toll is incalculable. So why bother?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Sure it is..31,750,000 people in Japan are now the Nuclear Technology cancer death toll. 🙁

    That's very calculable! 🙂

    • We Not They Finally

      That's tragically true. And the next generation WORSE off. That's how bio-magnification down generational lines works.

      Just look at Chernobyl. 27 years already, and 80% of the children in the area are unhealthy. It IS "calculable."

  • Add on the 10 million visitors per year…

    Stupid is as stupid does…

    would be like 10 million per year visiting Pripiat, and then taking a tour of the Chernobyl sarcophagus.

    "Adventure Tourism" is what they call it..

    Great propaganda campaign, seems to be working..

    Tourism, up

    Profit, up

    Economy, up

    Secrecy, up

    Death rate, up

    Species dying off, up

    Cover up

  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    So does anyone know why Max Keiser is supporting the Jim Stone research? Max is a smart man. He has lots of connections. He and Rense had a falling out over the Stone material. If Stone is right then we are being fed false information. This would certainly account for the secrecy in Japan. TEPCO would know the Mossad hand was in this. Stupid of Japan to put Israelis in charge of anything they valued.
    Then we are being deliberately led down a false path. Rendered harmless. Fools. While we watch the web cam the real game goes on elsewhere.

    • We Not They Finally

      I'd take Jeff Rense with a ton of salt. He's surprisingly good about Fukushima, but is otherwise aligned with David Duke. Draw your own conclusions.

      • digitalaardvarks digitalaardvarks

        jim stone, david icke, hal turner. these people would agree with the people on this forum blaming it on israel. if something is bad or can't be figured out, blame it on the jews. rense and david duke. sickening.

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Fatal to all living cells
    Boy oh boy we are done
    How could they
    What were they thinking
    Or we're they
    I come back to the thought of other life forms like us on some far way star
    Maybe they did try to warn us
    Sorry I have been in this fight against nuclear for decades and I never ever thought this would really happen , not like this
    I'm sick with grief

    • Homolumina Homolumina

      My heart goes out to you and I feel with you, similar here, have been an activist for over 30 years… Feel a big warm virtual hug…

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      "I'm sick with grief" This is a very logical and expected reaction!

  • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

    I just have to correct the "Plutonium named after the Devil" bit.

    " The second element following Uranium is named after the second planet after Uranus: Pluto, discovered in 1930 and named after Πλουτων [ploutōn], the Greek god of the underworld. About the naming, Glenn T. Seaborg said in 1996:

    "In that first report [March 21, 1942], we decided to name the element Plutonium, just like Uranium is named after Uranus, Neptunium by McMillan and Abelson after Neptune, we decided to name it Plutonium. We should have named it plutium, but we liked Plutonium better. It just sounded better. And the symbol obviously should have been Pl, but we liked Pu better so we gave it the symbol Pu."

    More details here: http://www.vanderkrogt.net/elements/element.php?sym=Pu

    The minor planet, Pluto, btw was named after the Greek God by the same name. He and his two brothers Zeus and Poseidon, each had dominion over the underworld, land and sea, respectively. They also didn't have the same concept of "heaven" and "hell" or The Devil in Greek mythology; when you died, you simply went to the underworld, which was…under the ground. Not completely a negative, as the writings also recognize that minerals and other things necessary for life come from the underworld; the three realms were interconnected.

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      The underworld aka devil
      So,in essence

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      The planet Pluto was named in the 20th century, with all the connotations of the 20th century.

      Pluto rules the dead, no matter what century you are from.

      “…Burney was interested in classical mythology as well as astronomy, and considered the name, a name for the god of the underworld, appropriate for such a presumably dark and cold world….”

      “…The borrowed Greek name Pluto is sometimes used for the ruler of the dead in Latin literature, leading some mythology handbooks to assert misleadingly that Pluto was the Roman counterpart of Hades.[4]…”

      And those who named Plutonium never thought it would bring anything but death. And they were correct.

    • tarpus

      I have FOUND the devil! Here he is in all his spooky pimp outfit…
      Please sit down before viewing, it gets ugly.


  • cooterboy

    My apologies for being off issue but I found an article that may be of some importance. It appears that Turner comm. has a document written by an insurance company that indemnifies them from any and all radiation claims. At the end of gold/silver… is a link to Turner's site.

    I found this article very revealing but not exactly definitive as to it's authenticity. If true this is a game changer.



    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      I seen that this morning and looked at the PDF and it just did not seem right it was like the blogger wrote it himself seen no name of carrier . What was your take again

      • cooterboy


        I couldn't agree more with your take on this. The possibilities of why someone would write this could include, you work at Hanford, work in the nuclear industry an exhausting list.
        Also if we want the truth then I would like to see a photocopy of the original and what it was referring to. Not pixels on a paper, because when I read it, it was like looking at Swiss cheese.

        I didn't believe it myself when I read it but thought it important enough to put it up for examination as I appreciate your take on it as well as others.


    • We Not They Finally

      Yeah, a lot of people apparently also found that homes damaged in Hurricane Katrina were not covered for flood damage.

      Once societal damages become huge, the stats no longer favor insurance companies. And they are there for themselves, not the public.

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        If this is true it looks like a story to me someone should cash in on
        I am aware what they did with Katrina , they did that with sandy too
        They are really evil bastards

  • Sol Man

    What shall we love? Life or death? If there is more profit to be made in loving death; then death it is. Corporations require profit, not love and compassion for human beings, or a viable ecosystem. People and ecosystems are expendable, while profits are always required.

    Now that the nuclear programs are running perfectly we must fill the aquifers with frack chemicals, pave the pristine swamps, and build more casinos; for we are great and that is our purpose. Don't worry about our progeny, for they will raise themselves.

    I can't apologize for being in a dark space, as it is a dark place that we have made. I so wish it were different.

    Very sad.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      A dark place, yes. Even if it's warm and sunny, with a soft breeze, and 73 degrees outside; its a dark, cold place now. Even if it's not apparent. I am jealous of those basking in the glow of the blue pill.

  • Radio Radio

    Anyone want to discuss the topic? It's a really great debate between Winona LaDuke and Steven Brand. A very clear outline of the thinking of the minds that must be understood and changed if we are to address nuclear pollution and all the rest of our many environmental challenges. It's from August 2011, but, nothing has changed much in the belief system between then and now. That will take us to fix that.

  • I have 'no doubt' that the words or Mr. Coyote are some of the wisest words I've ever heard.

    I sincerely wish millions could hear them and understand their importance.

    What amazes me is that the video was posted in August of 2011 and has only been viewed, as of today, 1377 times.

    re: Peter Coyote responds to Brand and LaDuke

    One can feel the truth in the tone of the applause.

    The expression on Brand's face at the very end is telling.
    (The word 'telling' could also be 'chilling' or 'priceless', I had a had time deciding which to use.) 😉

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Answers to HoTaters: 🙂
    "PUN, where do you think the #2 corium is now?"
    The location of Corium2 may depend on two things:
    1. Whether fission pushed the temperature of the corium up to 5,000C, and continues today.
    2. Whether the corium spread out in a fan shape, or stayed together as a blob.
    If fission continues, and the core is still in a blob, it is long gone. Perhaps PattieB was right, when she said the core had made it to the subduction zone, has exited the Japanese Plate, and is now traveling westward with the Pacific Plate.
    If Corium2 has cooled and spread out, the slantwise drilling strategy suggested by SimplyInfo will find it about 100' below the reactor.
    My personal opinion is that corium will be found in the mudrock at a depth of about 100' below grade.

    "What state do you think it is in?"
    As corium flows through the mudrock and groundwater below the FDNPP, a crust forms where corium meets groundwater. Nuclear crust would be left behind as the corium creates a corium lava tube. The walls of the corium lava tube consists of glass from solidified molten mudrock. Intermixed with glass is the nuclear crust debris. When the lump of corium is fully consumed (that is, turned into crust by contact with groundwater), then fission shuts down, and temperatures begin to fall. I believe the corium has exhausted itself, and stopped.

    • flatsville

      PUN, Thank for spitballing. I think that should the coria ever join up with magma (which is unlikely) the flow and eddys caused by convection in the magma layer could disperse it nearly anywhere through the magma layer.

      (And the idea that it will be sucked down and then be ejected back out a nearby Japanese volcano, while poetic, is just bizzare.)

      re: PattiB…aren't we all supposed to be dead now? Two suns or something?

      Well anyway, the magma layer could be very shallow under Fuku as in Hawaii or deeper as in Iceland. Volcanic activity alone is no indicator of a shallow or a deep magma starting depth from what I have read.

      Does anyone even know where the magama layer begins under Fuku?

      My cursory search turned up nothing.

      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        There are actually three plates subdrcting near Japan. (Look at the drawing on this link):
        The 3 plates on a map:
        Cross-section of subduction zone:
        https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XX91xQjTVaw/TXp19ckXmhI/AAAAAAAACbM/l-j-NW-cqRk/s1600/arc-trench_system.gif. (Hope this link works!)
        I have seen a drawing of the subduction zone at Fukushima with a depth scale. This isn't the drawing I'm thinking of, but will provide some idea of the depths involved.
        I was thinking the depth of the subduction zone below the FDNPP was about 75km-100km.
        Does anybody have more accurate info on this question? Anne?

        Anyway, Japan is a hell of a place to put nuclear plants!
        Cometo think of it, Earth is a hellof a place to put nuclear plants! 😉

        • flatsville

          Thanks. That's deep.

          >>>I was thinking the depth of the subduction zone below the FDNPP was about 75km-100km.<<<

          Anne\Vanne opined that the coria,if it reaches magma, will be ejected back out a nearby Japanese volcano because there is much volcanic activity in Japan. As highly poetic as it is unlikely given the dynamic nature of magma.

          • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

            Flatsville: Magma in the top plate of the subduction zone is rock that has been heated to melting temperature by subduction pressure and friction. Lava melts it way upwards to the surface, to exit the crust through a volcano. At present, not knowing where the corium is located, I cannot see a mechanism for the lateral corium movement, necessary to put the corium in the path of upwelling lava under an existing Japanese volcano. But the Japanese have terrible luck, so this unlikely fate may yet befall them.

            However, it is more likely that the corium will continue to sink into the surface of the Eurasian Plate, connected to the surface by a water-filled corium lava tube. This corium lava tube can be plugged with grout, and can be isolated from the aquifer by surrounding it with a underground Impermeable Wall, of the steel and concrete variety they started building on the sea side of Unit1, but never completed.

            Tepco suspended construction of the Impermeable Wall, while they are testing underground frozen wall technology, proposed for an enclosure to stop groundwater from flowing under Units1-4. IMHO, a frozen wall won't work, for a variety of reasons. So after messing around with a frozen wall for another 3 or 4 years, TEPCO will probably simply resume working on the Impermeable Wall that is partially built.

            Hint to TEPCO engineers:
            Construct the inland side of the Extended Impermeable Wall first, so as not to raise the level of groundwater. 😉

            • flatsville


              >>>Hint to TEPCO engineers:
              Construct the inland side of the Extended Impermeable Wall first, so as not to raise the level of groundwater.<<<

              They seem hell bent on swamping the site, no?

              Constructing the first section of the wall on the inland side and diverting the water around the wall makes too much sense.

              I am afraid their Impermeable Ice Wall will have the same fate as the Soviet attempt to place a refrigeration unit under the Chernobyl reactor.

              At least the Soviets then had a space to pour a concrete pad when it became obvious the refrigeration unit was beyond their technology.

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Another question from HoTaters:

      "How far down and out?"
      We know that short half life isotopes are still being released, and that fission continues at FDNPP.
      Some or all of the ongoing fission is in Corium1-3 in the earth beneath the plant ruins.
      Nothing can resist the movement of a 5,000C corium.
      The action of a rogue nuclear reactor is to melt surrounding rock, with the heavier molten corium continuing to descend, leaving behind a corium lava tube of silidifying molten rock and nuclear crust debris.. This goes on until the amount of corium diminishes from the original 94 tonnes to 0 tonnes.
      A reasonable guess is that the remnants of Corium2 will be found at a depth of between 10km to 20km.

      What action is possible or necessary?
      It is imperative that TEPCO stop contaminated groundwater from entering the Pacific Ocean.
      This can only be done by building an Underground Impermeable Wall entirely around Units1-4, to a depth below the aquifer (about 100').
      The first step is to drill into the inverted cone under the plant, in order to locate the corium lava tubes.
      Then, drill down the corium lava tubes to locate the missing corium.
      The corium doesn't need to be extracted from the sandstone.
      Rather, it must be located, frozen in place, and isolated forever from the surrounding rock and groundwater.
      That is to say, isolated forever from the Pacific Ocean.

      This is the reason I'm always demanding to know:

      Where is the damn missing corium, TEPCO? 😉

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    For the newcomer

    F-iPadRemembering Fukushima nuclear disaster, Ed Asner urges an end to nuclear energy – YouTube
    Another actor stepping up to the plate .
    This was done in 2012
    It's pretty good

  • ss.minnow

    Can't believe the amount of vanity that's been vomited up by many above. If the intention is to create division"'ITS working"….. It really confirms my ultimate belief that no one can be trusted. With all the info and research here it's a shame that people remain people regardless of their intelligence.

  • Nick

    Why are famous actors the ones to wake us all up?

    Why not the little folks? The ones with the most to lose?

    I do not want a famous person telling me that my future is gone. I want an average Joe or Jill to have the honors. For in doing so, I can have some semblance of sanity that at least an average person gets how bad Fukushima is.

    Connect the dots folks, we are ALL screwed.

  • We got to get these radioactive toxins out fast! We risk damaging our entire planet the way this radiation is spreading and ending up in our drinking water, snow, rainfall and destroying sea life. Forget eating pacific seafood! http://thehealingfrequency.com/japan-reactor-fukushima-nuclear-radiation-protection/

    • mungo mungo

      More cancers to come, the W.H.O. are advising us to minimise radiation exposure, an extract here….

      Cancer 'tidal wave' on horizon, warns WHO

      The WHO's World Cancer Report 2014 said the major sources of preventable cancer included:

      Obesity and inactivity
      Radiation, both from the sun and medical scans
      Air pollution and other environmental factors
      Delayed parenthood, having fewer children and not breastfeeding