CBS: Dire Warning from Fire Commander — Landfill fire near nuclear waste would threaten entire St. Louis region with radioactive smoke — “Potential for something very tragic”

Published: August 13th, 2013 at 4:07 pm ET
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Title: Pattonville Firefighter Issues Dire Warning on Nuclear Waste
Source: CBS St. Louis
Date: August 13, 2013

Pattonville Firefighter Issues Dire Warning on Nuclear Waste

A prominent fire commander is calling for the removal of nuclear waste from the West Lake Landfill in Bridgeton as his department monitors an underground landfill fire nearby.

“We need to quit talking about it and take action because it is something that is very serious,” Pattonville Fire Protection District Assistant Chief Matt LaVanchy says.

According to LaVanchy, the entire St. Louis metropolitan region would be threatened with radioactive smoke if the fire at the Bridgeton Landfill were ever to reach the nuclear site […]

“[…] there’s a potential there for something very tragic to happen in this area.” […]

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Published: August 13th, 2013 at 4:07 pm ET
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31 comments to CBS: Dire Warning from Fire Commander — Landfill fire near nuclear waste would threaten entire St. Louis region with radioactive smoke — “Potential for something very tragic”

  • markww markww

    As a retired fire captain I have fought dump fires, the best way is to put Nitrogen into the underground and put the fire out.

    Markww

    • We Not They Finally

      Maybe see if you can get hold of those people. They seem clueless and St. Louis is really in danger.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      markww,

      You are always so optimistic but then sometimes reality/potentials must rule the day…

      We may have created a new "out of control" Nuclear Burn/Radiation Contamination nightmare cooking us all here on Planet Earth… for an eternity.
      http://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/massive-underground-coal-fire-started-in-1962-still-burns-today.html

      Never say Never…

    • 21stCentury 21stCentury

      goog: amir adnani

      Maybe Amir Adnani can help suck all that old Mallinkrodt uranium out of the ground in St.Louis ??
      He has a lot of practice fracking & sucking actinides out of underground aquifers in Texas and other places.

      http://www.uraniumenergy.com/about_us/directors_officers/

      I'm all for sucking uranium actinides out of our drinking & irrigation water supplies..
      I'm not happy about what humans do with the uranium when we remove it from the environment.
      The same technology can be used for cleaning up all kinds of heavy metals from our aquifers.

      Uranium Energy Corporation should change their name to "Aquifer Purification Corporation"

    • Gasser Gasser

      You know that it would be untrue
      
You know that I would be a liar
      
If I was to say to you

      Folks, we couldn't put out the dump fire

      

Come on firemen! put out the fire

      Come on firemen! put out that damn fire

      Try to stop that potential Nuclear fire!



      The time to hesitate is through

      No time to wallow in many plans mire
      
Try now, we can afford to lose

      And St Louis become a funeral pyre

      

Come on firemen! extinguish the fire
      
Come on dudes put out that underground fire
      
Try to save the night on fire, yeah



      The time to hesitate is through
      
No time to wallow in the ego mire
      
Try harder now! we can't lose
      
And the State become a funeral pyre

      

Come on put out the stinkn’ fire
      
Come on brothers douse that nasty fire

      Try to save the world from a Nuclear fire, yeah

      

You know that it would be untrue

      You know that Markww would be a liar

      If he was to say to you

      Folks, we can't extinguish that potential Nuclear fire

      

Come on baby, fight that fire
      
Come on baby, fight that fire
      
Try to save the night from fire

      Try to save the night from fire
      
Try to stop the damn flight of fire
      
Do! stop the dump's radioactive fire!

  • Anthony Anthony

    omg you guys…how can anyone rationally defend this industry? Every time we turn around is another hazard and danger to life we would have NOT had without the reactors.

  • We Not They Finally

    Were it EVER to reach the nuclear waste site? Some time back it was 1200 feet away, and then a few weeks later, it was just 1000 feet away. It’s almost there! So it’s not “if ever.”

    • mairs mairs

      I think that's just another form of denial, WNTF. Literally distancing himself from the likely tragedy.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Nuclear is nothing but pure evil.

  • eatliesndie eatliesndie

    Yep.

  • markww markww

    I called and talked to the fire department this afternoon , they have the same idea as I did as to using Nitrogen to pump and kill the fire. They are working with the Landfill owners and had a good conversation with the Department. Good going FIRE FIGHTERS

    Markww

    • snukey

      Thanks Mark. Me the wife and kids live 10 minutes from there.

    • stopnp stopnp

      You rock Mark

    • ftlt

      Mark: Did you happen ask what is the scale of the fire in acres???

      I would think at some point suppression attempts are overwhelmed by the scale of a fire..

      Peat fires can be a more than significant % – in some years, they are a large part of the CO2 load annually…

      We have them in the California Delta… They can burn for years… Have been known to swallow farm equipment and live stock

      • flatsville

        Maps of fire can be found at Missouri Coalition for the Enviroment under the Westlake landfill issue. Last I read someone? estimated it was moving toward the smaller radioactve portion ar 2.2 ft. per day.
        I just assume they're lying an it's moving faster.

      • markww markww

        We did not talk about acreage at all just Fire Protection efforts. They have vents setup, and when there is a go ahead they plan to do Nitrogen through the vents drilled down into the dump fire. It should not take long for the nitrogen to flow and put out the fire once it is released to the under dump area. No time limit given. But the fire Department says since people there get a grip and put pressure on the Landfill company,they will get it done.

        • irhologram

          markww. So…am I reading that until public pressure is brought to bear, nothing will be done RE: Nitrogen to be pumped into the fire? Have I misread this…" people there get a grip and put pressure on the Landfill company,they will get it done…"Now that the vents are already in place, is the nitrogen that expensive to give them pause in proceeding? How long have the vents been drilled, and how long has the fire department been ready to do this. Is there any reason given why it takes public pressure to accomplish this solution? If there hasn't been public pressure so far, why would we expect sufficient pressure now? Bottom line: why do you think the landfill owners would be dragging their feet, anyway? Also, I'm not sure, but did I read that they weren't "exactly" sure where all the radioactive waste was stored anyway? And what about "normal" toxicity from a burning landfill? Wouldn't a landfill fire normally have been extinguished rather than allowed to burn for months and months, increasing in intensity?

    • WWJD WWJD

      Thank you, it's greatly appreciated.

  • Sol Man

    It is inexplicable; why do we hesitate?

  • jec jec

    Being PROACTIVE! Good going Mark. Am sure the call was considered..different.by the firefighting operator. BUT at least someone is trying to correct or stop the fire before it goes nuclear with waste! Its good the collaboration with locals and private is happening.However,the LOCAL fire department works with the COMPANY who owns the waste dump–where is the federal agency who allowed/provided dumping of nuclear waste? Where is EPA and FDA and Homeland Defense Honchos? AND FEMA? Guess they are busy checking out mindless issues without any political or environmental pricetags. HUM..maybe counting the number of staples (metal!) used in each department, waste fraud and abuse..or maybe they are busy shredding emails and files just in case the IRS Investigation comes knocking..(sarcasm..but not really)…

  • Good work, Mark.

    Your efforts to bring the cold stuff to the hot stuff in St. Louis are a credit to EneNews –and thanks.

  • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

    Yes , Thank You Markww !

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    WE "all" should "act now" and be just like Markww! Great Job Mark!

    To the rest of us out here..now go and Make It So!

  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    Good Goin' Mark..
    Thanks a million !!

    Better to be active today than radioactive tomorrow !!

    We all need to keep on message, while trying to survive and struggle in our daily lives..
    Those of us who have learned our lessons about the perils of radioactive actinides being the most toxic & persistent poison must keep educating others about this pervasive peril.

    Steven Starr talking about Cesium-137…
    fukushima radiation dispersal area part/1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PrhG5gmVb8

    fukushima radiation dipersal area part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayKbIUkHXdE

    • Cologne Cathedral Cologne Cathedral

      Hi 21stCentury,

      I want to apologize for the comment about being homosexual.

      You were not meant perrsonally. In fact it was only about propaganda, pro homo-propaganda. I am not homophob, but I look at all these pro-homosexual newspaper-articles as propaganda. In the moment I wrote that comment I was jsut annoyed about Americans and why they dare to blame the Japanese People in general for what happens in Fukushima.

      Your comment was that overload of info, that it immediately thought of a nerd, who must have written it. Know I know the answer to it and what you do respectively Hanford. You are someone to look up to.

      Thank you and sorry, no offense meant!

      (Couldn't find the post, so I do it here)

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        Hi CC ,
        "In fact it was only about propaganda, pro homo-propaganda. I am not homophob, but I look at all these pro-homosexual newspaper-articles as propaganda."
        —————

        I guess its all a matter of perception..

        I'm sure to many its a war for human rights , just like with woman or children or anti-pollution rights "propaganda " .. , and after century's of prosecution , naturally its a bit "in your face" .. thats all..

        I take the "propaganda" over the "prosecution" everytime i have the luxury to think and choose..

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