Wildfire expected to grow “indefinitely” — Firefighters said yesterday was a “make or break day” but fire has refused to be tamed

Published: June 29th, 2011 at 1:11 pm ET
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Las Conchas Fire Now 3 Percent Contained, Albuquerque Journal, June 29, 2011:

[...] The Albuquerque Journal’s Phil Parker reported from Los Alamos this morning that the campfire smell in town was the strongest there since the fire began on Sunday. [...]

Firefighters had looked to Tuesday as a “make or break day” in their struggle to keep the fast-growing fire from the now-nearly deserted city of 12,000, but the fire refused to be tamed [...]

Deputy incident commander Mike Bradley said Tuesday he expects the Las Conchas Fire to grow indefinitely [...]

And weather forecasters are saying that firefighters battling blazes near Los Alamos and elsewhere in northern New Mexico can expect more of the same troubling weather today — hot, dry and windy conditions [...]

Published: June 29th, 2011 at 1:11 pm ET
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43 comments to Wildfire expected to grow “indefinitely” — Firefighters said yesterday was a “make or break day” but fire has refused to be tamed

  • gatoralsoccer

    As my CO in the Army used to say “Time for helmets & hymnals”!


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  • Bring on the Water Bombers

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_firefighting#Airtankers

    The largest aerial firefighter currently in use is a Boeing 747 aerial firefighter, known as the Evergreen Supertanker that can carry 24,000 gallons fed by a pressurized drop system.The Supertanker entered service for the first time in 2009, fighting a fire in Cuenca, Spain.[7] The tanker made its first American operation on August 31, 2009 at the Oak Glen Fire.[8][9]

    The next largest aerial firefighters currently in use include two converted Martin Mars[10] flying boats in British Columbia (one of which was brought to southern California in September 2007 to help battle the wildfires there). Each Martin Mars can carry approximately 7,200 U.S. gallons[10] of water or fire retardant each, and the Tanker 910, a converted McDonnell Douglas DC-10 that can carry 12,000 gallons[citation needed] of water or retardant. The Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations operates convertible-to-cargo IL-76 airtankers that can carry up to 15,000 gallons but have been operating with 11,000 gallon tanking systems, and a few of Beriev Be-200 amphibians.

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    Or, are we talking a super-fire here?


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    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      Or, are we talking a super-fire here?

      Nah! It’s not even covered in the press. Can’t be significant. Nah! Not even listed in the Top Ten news stories on Yahoo.

      Or perhaps, just perhaps, it’s a super-coverup of a super-fire.

      Welcome to the United States of Denial.


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    • Thebes

      Dumping water and retardant on fuels is a standard technique. It is not always very effective, especially if there are high winds. I think they are running the aircraft again, but they’ve had to stop some of the time due to 60mph winds, which are what has caused the fire to grow so extremely fast.

      Super fire? Yeah, its the fastest growing fire I can recall from a decade of living in the region, it has grown faster than I would have ever thought possible.

      This won’t be out for a couple months, it could take them a month to get a line around it, though it should be fairly easy to hold a line at town and the lab because they have roads and water.


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  • fuckyoushima

    plutonium canisters blowing up will mean the end of many things.

    pray for fair winds.


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  • alasanon

    So, basically, this is a worse threat than Fukushima and it is right IN our hometurf! (jaw dropping!)

    ..And the official national silence and lack of public health warnings wears on!…???


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    • alasanon

      Ok, nothing is really worse than Fukushima-Daiichi, but the proximity here is FAR worse…And is Mexico getting in on this? They have a lot of prime agriculture to lose.

      Bless the firefighters!!!


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  • Thebes

    In New Mexico there’s a saying that we fight wildfires by throwing money at them until it rains.


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  • jump-ball

    HawaiiNewsDaily.c: Tough, alternative news site, with good radiation monitor on Kauai (only 3500 miles from Japan), and usually one new nuclear report per day:

    “Humankind is now threatened by the simultaneous implosion, explosion, incineration, courtroom contempt and drowning of its most lethal industry. We know only two things for certain: worse is yet to come, and those in charge are lying about it—at least to the extent of what they actually know, which is nowhere near enough…”


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  • hellomojo

    Infowars.com. epa and such


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  • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

    Got up late, coffee brewing, turned on TV. Checked all cable news, Greeks are still pissed, Casey Anthony’s Dad crying, Boehner/Obama still talking shit, New Mexico fire closer to nuke lab (EPA testing ongoing, everything still safe, Bachmann getting picked on by MSM.
    Thats my morning so far, how’s yours?


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  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Whoopie, thanks for this link to a Map of the fire as of yesterday, scary:
    http://www.nukewatch.org/watchblog/?p=860

    That whole area on the map is already contaminated with plutonium, americium, etc., long before any barrels blow up.


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  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Read this propaganda on both Los Alamos and Nebraska only if you are up for it:

    http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/51768/nuclear_smoke_poses_little_thr.asp

    I have yet to figure out how to contribute to their comment sections without personal attacks.


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  • Rica E

    Would that be toxic fukushima snowmelt from the rockies that they will be dumping on these fires in hopes of suppressing them?


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    odiez1 just posted this map on another thread:
    http://maps.google.com/?ll=35.830201,-106.239552&spn=0.017432,0.031157&t=h&z=15
    So the waste site “area G2″ is actually quite close to White Rock.
    Maybe it’s just me, but I see close to no paving around those tents – but lots of trees / shrubs.


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  • Well, the fire is now within 50ft of the plant (on two sides).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKZvn9GWazs

    They’re bringing out the air monitors, checking for radiation in the smoke.

    Love the little interview:

    “Based on what you’ve seen, do you feel comfortable saying to the public ‘We are safe right now’”?

    “Yes, I’m confident in saying that they are committed to making it safe.”

    Notice how she turned the question around ….

    Summary: She’s not confident enough to say to the public: ‘You are safe’.


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    • - radioactive materials stored in tents
      - everything is extremely dry (long drought)
      - winds are picking up
      - the fire is so big, it can be seen from space


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    • Rica E

      wowzers zero percent containment? they always pad success on these campaign fires with a 10 or 20 percent claim. And what is with the LANL employees bumping drums around on dollies with cotton jumpsuits on?


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Re-posted comment from an earlier story in this thread because it is relative to ALL the madness.

    In reference to the overhead objective agenda of population control:

    What is amazing and exemplary of the mass conscious awakening is that you are not alone in saying this. Even Alex Jones mentioned something along this same line today. Everyone Knows!

    Many KNOW what these agendas are by the early signs we see. Thank the Most High for the awareness that is running rampant among the tribes of man. What many forget or do not realize is that WE ARE ALL ONE and this FACT is the baseline of the grand awakening.

    It is true. The elitist/bankster/govt/etc lackeys are killing us all off and this is the population control agenda hard at work. Put “population control agenda” into your search engine and read all about it. You will easily see this agenda in front of your face all over the world. The kill off of the human peoples is happening now and still as a whole not much is being done to stop it. The sheeple set for slaughter do nothing to save themselves or their families.

    What is interesting is we have seen the build up of body bags and preparations for some kind of EVENT in that south-eastern bible belt region for years now. It is looking like a nuklear nightmare for everything east of the Rocky Mountains.

    Fire, radiation, flooding, high solar activity and UV levels are all off the hook. Shake, rattle, and roll. Flash! Throw in the earth changes equation and maybe a false flag Event and you have it, chaos AS PLANNED. (4TH OF JULY?) More??

    We are getting lots of smoke here in the four corners region which means the smoke has gone west and north and east. It is a combination from the Arizona and Los Alamos regions and IT IS RADIOACTIVE.

    A look at the EPA map shows two things. Rises of radiation measurements in the area, and the fact that many of the detection sites EAST of Los Alamos are not working or recording information. More COVER UP by the EPA/NRC/FDA and all the rest of the USELESS GOVT EATERS AND BREATHERS sucking fat federal pay checks for doing absolutely NOTHING to protect America or the world’s people. They earn those fat pay checks for doing exactly opposite of what they are supposed to be doing and are perfectly kow-towing to the population control (kill off) agenda.

    One place that is working and directly downwind of Los Alamos is Amarillo, TX. The readings have been high:

    Beta Gross Count Rate (CPM)

    Location Names: TX: AMARILLO,

    Date: 06/29/2011

    (Last 24 hrs)

    2011-06-28 17:26:30 324
    2011-06-28 18:26:43 313
    2011-06-28 19:26:56 306
    2011-06-28 20:27:09 302
    2011-06-28 21:27:23 305
    2011-06-28 22:27:36 303
    2011-06-28 23:27:49 289
    2011-06-29 00:28:02 282
    2011-06-29 01:28:15 254
    2011-06-29 02:28:29 257
    2011-06-29 03:28:42 305
    2011-06-29 04:28:55 360
    2011-06-29 06:29:21 382
    2011-06-29 07:29:34 390
    2011-06-29 05:29:08 373
    2011-06-29 17:31:47 399
    2011-06-29 18:32:00 377

    Location Names: CO: DENVER,

    Date: 06/29/2011

    (Last 24 hrs)

    2011-06-28 10:55:05 72
    2011-06-28 11:55:17 81
    2011-06-28 12:55:29 95
    2011-06-28 13:55:41 133
    2011-06-28 14:55:54 144
    2011-06-28 15:56:07 152
    2011-06-28 16:56:19 139
    2011-06-28 17:56:31 122
    2011-06-28 18:56:44 99
    2011-06-28 19:56:56 81
    2011-06-28 20:57:08 63
    2011-06-28 21:57:20 64
    2011-06-28 22:57:33 60
    2011-06-28 23:57:45 71
    2011-06-29 00:57:58 79
    2011-06-29 01:58:10 120
    2011-06-29 02:58:22 139
    2011-06-29 03:58:35 115
    2011-06-29 04:58:47 115
    2011-06-29 05:58:59 117
    2011-06-29 06:59:11 122
    2011-06-29 07:59:23 130
    2011-06-29 08:59:35 133
    2011-06-29 09:59:48 150
    2011-06-29 11:00:00 195

    They talk about creating chaos. Take all this together and what is shaping up is not looking good. So many people know, but the question is what are they doing about it?

    What can we all do? KEEP BANGING ON THE WALLS AND MAKING AS MUCH NOISE AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU CAN!!! Get aggressive NOW people and fight before we are all to weakened down to raise a finger to these evil things that are killing us all off. This is a WORLD WIDE life or death/EMERGENCY situation. Call everyone you know, write as much as you can, and get the facts out there. PREPARE. HELP OTHER PEOPLE PREPARE.

    KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. Use it while you can. You have a right to be angry! Post blogs, write newspapers, the congress critters and senate toads, UN, EPA, FDA, ALL GOVT OFFICES. Make flyer’s & DVD’s for your neighborhood, call TV and radio stations, be as creative as your higher power will inspire you to be. The truth will set you free!

    Today, let us begin the INFORMATION REVOLUTION. We are in the final wind-up people and at this point our days are indeed numbered. The horrific sad truth is, they are less then what we can imagine if the people do not rise up and actually DO SOMETHING to stop all this total insanity. What are YOU doing about your purposely planned demise?


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    • Rica E

      If any body needs a place to relo to , I could offer space. I was feeling down on my luck for being geograpically challenged by fuku,but it got worse in the places I thought were ‘safer’. It seems as though all of the judgement calls we have been making on japan will now be the same scenarios placed in our laps.


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  • NoNukes NoNukes

    The fire chief says it is “a road away”: “I seriously believe it could go to 100,000 acres (40,000 hectares),” Tucker told reporters at a news briefing on Tuesday. “We have fire all around the lab. It’s a road away.”

    http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/los-alamos-major-calamity-looms-0-contained-fire-seismic-threat#ixzz1QhomZgx9


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  • HardLeft

    James,

    Not so fast. RadNet data for those two cities was actually higher a few weeks ago, and RadNet data for those two cities has always been completely weird, particularly Amarillo, which seems to have wild spikes up to 400 or 500 CPM.

    Had you not noticed this? Or… what?

    This is not a conspiracy, in my opinion, and I qualify it as only that. Our media and government are way, way too dysfunctional to accomplish that, and there are far more efficient and less expensive ways to depopulate the planet than using radiation. A poison or a virus would work far better and be much easier to control.

    Occam’s razor: The simplest explanation that fits the facts, and these multiple tragedies are the result of simple hubris, greed, corner cutting. The reason these disasters are happening simultaneously is due to climate instability. Lots of really smart people have been worried about somethig like this happening since the ’70s.


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    • Misitu

      I tend to agree with you, HardLeft. Lack of attention is the biggest source of all “accidental” disasters.

      I would only take issue over the cause. My preference would be for simple lack of attention to maintenance programmes. Or just not having maintenance programmes, same thing really.

      The watchword for the Blair years was “Don’t worry, THEY won’t notice”.


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  • M Curie M Curie

    Totally agree with you HardLeft. And some of us have been worried since the 60′s when GE was building reactors in San Jose, CA!


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  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    HardLeft…”due to climate instability”???? what a jump…
    …an answer to your Amarillo question (rhetorical?)…
    Pantex weapons plant…
    our intro GIS lessons featured pollution plume mapping and
    predictive modeling, nasty stuff in the ground around there.
    Prolly inna AIR too, I imagine….cow pies, too…


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