Published: July 11th, 2011 at 4:32 pm ET
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Wildfire at Ex-Nuclear Test Area in NV Continues, AP, July 11, 2011:
A wildfire at the government’s former nuclear testing area in southern Nevada poses no threat of kicking up radiation, federal officials said Saturday. […]
National Nuclear Security Administration spokeswoman Kelly Snyder said the lightning-caused blaze was not burning near any site where 100 above-ground tests left radiation in the soil. […]
But Snyder said ground and air crews were still trying to contain the blaze Saturday and there was no estimated containment time. […]
“This is an active fire. We have a variety of aircraft dropping water on the fire,” she said.
Lightning sparked blazes at nuclear test areas, Las Vegas Review Journal, July 9, 2011:
[…] Lightning sparked two fires Tuesday within the Nevada National Security Site, the former nuclear test site 65 miles northwest of Las Vegas. […]
One of the fires is “several miles” from the location of an above-ground test, a safe distance according to Dante Pistone, a spokesman at the test site’s operations center […]
h/t Risabee via Global Security Newswire
Published: July 11th, 2011 at 4:32 pm ET
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Heads UP! No Moderation
(i have to Get Offline damn it)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/keystone-pipeline-leak_n_894526.html
Like I said before…anyone who’s been banned at HP from here MUST GET A NEW ID. The way to do that is HUSHMAIL. We need MORE VOICES EVERYWHERE even Fluffington=HP!
http://www.hushmail.com/
Hello all. This is quite an informative site. A lot of knowledge is to be gained from the comments here and to the links provided to articles and other related sites.
(A wink and a tip of the Stetson to Whoopie for the hushmail info)
It is serious indeed. Here’s something off topic – I just finished watching Fairewinds latest video and it got me wondering… There is a celestial body of some sort due to pass very close in Oct.
They are calling it a comet, but it could turn out to be something else.
Now I’m not suggesting we all wrap our heads with tinfoil and crawl under our beds (as if that would do any good anyway). I’m just suggesting this event could trigger more (and probably stronger) EQ’s later this year.
Dear Mother Earth might very well have a lot more Fukushimas on her face if this scenario were to play out.
Just a thought.
thanks Whoopie! and much love from
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
Keep posting at HP too chemfood! We can get your website going VIRAL! You just got to KEEP POSTING THE LINK! (I know…from personal experience) And YOURS is an excellent source for everything going on today.
So dont forget guys – 3 active threads there RIGHT NOW.
DONT HESITATE! GRAB EYES WHILE YOU CAN!
TIMES A WASTING!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/10/vermont-yankee-plant-nuclear-regulatory-commission_n_894209.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/keystone-pipeline-leak_n_894526.html
Japan EQ thread Only 1 Moderated
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/09/japan-earthquake-tsunami_n_893960.html#comments
God, that sounded BOSSY…and over the top. I sure didn’t mean it that way. Sometimes my ENERGY gets the better of me. I’ve got to go MOW now in the RADIATED AIR. Catch ya all later.
my pleasure! and thanks all for getting the rad nuclear news now out!
I really DO have to go. But it’d be great if you’d post your personal feelings on it too at HP. Become a Japan Irregular! That’s what CaptD named us all for being TRUTH TELLERS. It’s stuck and fits! We don’t “go with the Flow of Tepco”! Or the Japanese Gov! Hope to see more of you there too! It’s so easy to do both!
I’ll be back!
P.S.
I’ll spread your chat option too when I get back! I like that idea so much!
u got it Whoopie! thanks for all u do! we’ll get the rad news out and folks together come hell or high water at Ft. Calhoun!
Whoopie,
I have about an acre to mow. Ugh! THIS time I think I WILL wear a mask, for whatever good it’ll do. You should too.
Maybe put up polytunnels and plant vegs on it?
Example, moi.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lUwg9U8N5DQ/SsqdX_p2wWI/AAAAAAAABfs/DYUQOoCq08E/s1600/003.JPG
I do think that will help some, and stop some of the radiation.
The less you can come in contact with, the better it is.
Wish we could have that where we live.
If radiation, can go through homes, shouldn’t it be able to go through that also?
I suppose none of that area is downwind from any of the previous detonations !
While I’m here can you show me some of that beach front property too !
I know there are maps of these sites and the fallout areas, time for some searches folks !
Cancer and test site
Fallout Exposure in Rads
A 1979 study reported in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded that:
A significant excess of leukemia deaths occurred in children up to 14 years of age living in Utah between 1959 and 1967. This excess was concentrated in the cohort of children born between 1951 and 1958, and was most pronounced in those residing in counties receiving high fallout…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site
A childhood playmate of mine got leukemia at 16, I went to visit him before my deployment to Vietnam. My sentence was unknown and fearful, his was certain ! RIP My Childhood Friend ! Low Country S.C.
Photo’s of the S.c. Low Country and more !
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/759/302/32_Dolphins_Dead_in_South_Carolina_Alarm_Researchers.html
I’m sorry about your friend, xdrfox. I lost a childhood friend in a senseless war long ago and it still hurts. I always remember him on Memorial Day. Lives so needlessly wasted. Sometimes I wonder what on earth he would make of the world we live in today! So hard to know the truth of anything when so many lie. Probably all of us doubt the truth of the headlines above.
I always remember many on Memorial, veterans Day’s and many day’s Lives so needlessly wasted over lies, 120,000 V.N. veterans died in the ten years following the war that are mostly not thought of ! (twice the number who fell during the war) The toll was not over at the firring of the last bullet/shell !
It was a hard war to recover from years after the last protest was excepted by gov. and heeded the calls ! To too many the war coming home was more deadly then the war itself as the number shows !
Know a vet from the new wars ? Get to know a vet !
Three of my brothers were in V.N.: One was an Army helicopter pilot, flying the wounded, another was a Navy Captain of a Swiftboat, equally dangerous, and the third was an Army ground soldier at the age of 18.
My brother in the Navy could not talk to us about that experience for almost 30 years. He had a three year old child die in his arms and it was just too painful to share for a long time.
Nuclear test series carried out at the Nevada Test Site
Operation Ranger — 1951
Operation Buster-Jangle — 1951
Operation Tumbler-Snapper — 1952
Operation Upshot-Knothole — 1953
Operation Teapot — 1955
Project 56 — 1955
Operation Plumbbob — 1957
Project 57, 58, 58A — 1957–1958
Operation Hardtack II — 1958
Operation Nougat — 1961–1962
Operation Plowshare — 1961–1973 (sporadic, at least one test a year)
Operation Sunbeam — 1962
Operation Dominic II — 1962–1963
Operation Storax — 1963
Operation Niblick — 1963–1964
Operation Whetstone — 1964–1965
Operation Flintlock — 1965–1966
Operation Latchkey — 1966–1967
Operation Crosstie — 1967–1968
Operation Bowline — 1968–1969
Operation Mandrel — 1969–1970
Operation Emery — 1970
Operation Grommet — 1971–1972
Operation Toggle — 1972–1973
Operation Arbor — 1973–1974
Operation Bedrock — 1974–1975
Operation Anvil — 1975–1976
Operation Fulcrum — 1976–1977
Operation Cresset — 1977–1978
Operation Quicksilver — 1978–1979
Operation Tinderbox — 1979–1980
Operation Guardian — 1980–1981
Operation Praetorian — 1981–1982
Operation Phalanx — 1982–1983
Operation Fusileer — 1983–1984
Operation Grenadier — 1984–1985
Operation Charioteer — 1985–1986
Operation Musketeer — 1986–1987
Operation Touchstone — 1987–1988
Operation Cornerstone — 1988–1989
Operation Aqueduct — 1989–1990
Operation Sculpin — 1990–1991
Operation Julin — 1991–1992
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site
A while back, I thought it was great living in these times, modern auto’s, computers, smartphones, the internet.
I got to see all of this come about in a 50 year lifetime.
Happened kinda fast, don’t you think?
With that post, Now I’m not feelin so lucky…
As George Harrison said,
” Where did the last 40 years go ? “
Oh no, I left out the beatles, It’s gettin worse…
Oh well, A uote to live by…
“Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming WOW… What a ride!”
[Author Unknown]
Q
Hey Admin, can you push this big q up to the post above?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wynYMJwEPH8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KAvPbO8JY&feature=related
And because George is lookin from above, for sure…
A tribute, as performed by Billey Preston in 2002, Isn’t A Pity…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxSwZKk9SVE&feature=related
That should have been “Isn’t It A Pity”
Billy Preston – Nothing from nothing 1975 William Everett Preston (September 2, 1946 — June 6, 2006) was an American soul musician from …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_DV54ddNHE
right on…
What character that dude had, and shred a keyboard. I was only in high school then, but my older sister had all the 70′ albums…
The piper must be paid.
Just looking at one of these series, Operation Storax:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storax
Operation Storax[1] was a series of 48 American nuclear tests which took place in 1962 and 1963, including the Sedan blast, which was part of the Plowshare program.
The individual blasts were:
Name Date Size
SEDAN
July 6 104 kilotons
MERRIMAC July 13 20-200 kilotons
WICHITA July 27 < 20 kilotons
YORK August 24 < 20 kilotons
BOBAC August 24 < 20 kilotons
RARITAN September 6 < 20 kilotons
HYRAX September 14 < 20 kilotons
PEBA September 20 < 20 kilotons
ALLEGHENY September 29 < 20 kilotons
MISSISSIPPI October 5 115 kilotons
ROANOKE October 12 < 20 kilotons
WOLVERINE October 12 < 20 kilotons
TIOGA October 18 < 20 kilotons
BANDICOOT October 19 12.5 kilotons
SANTEE October 27 < 20 kilotons
ST.LAWRENCE November 9 < 20 kilotons
GUNDI November 15 < 20 kilotons
ANACOSTIA November 27 5.2 kilotons
TAUNTON December 4 < 20 kilotons
TENDRAC December 7 < 20 kilotons
MADISON December 12 < 20 kilotons
NUMBAT December 12 < 20 kilotons
MANATEE December 14 < 20 kilotons
CASSELMAN February 8 < 20 kilotons
ACUSHI February 8 < 20 kilotons
FERRET February 8 < 20 kilotons
HATCHIE February 8 < 20 kilotons
CHIPMUNK February 15 < 20 kilotons
CARMEL February 21 < 20 kilotons
KAWEAH February 21 3 kilotons
JERBOA March 1 < 20 kilotons
TOYAH March 15 < 20 kilotons
GERBIL March 29 < 20 kilotons
FERRET PRIME April 5 < 20 kilotons
COYPU April 10 < 20 kilotons
CUMBERLAND April 11 < 20 kilotons
KOOTANAI April 24 < 20 kilotons
PAISANO April 24 < 20 kilotons
GUNDI PRIME May 9 < 20 kilotons
HARKEE May 17 < 20 kilotons
TEJON May 17 < 20 kilotons
STONES May 22 20-200 kilotons
PLEASANT May 29 < 20 kilotons
YUBA June 5 3.1 kilotons
HUTIA June 6 < 20 kilotons
APSHAPA June 6 < 20 kilotons
MATACO June 14 < 20 kilotons
KENNEBEC June 25 < 20 kilotons
From that alone, they should find lots of readings
Madness, madness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_Test_Site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenchman_Flat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Flat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahute_Mesa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackass_Flats,_Nevada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nye_County,_Nevada
Online Geiger Counter Nuclear Radiation Detector Map
http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html
AZ at times is higher than you would think it should be.
It’s probably our Plants.
I think California is due for a large earthquake soon, I have that funny feeling … (Hate it !!) I’d rather not know …
Hope the winds are not blowing your way Cindy !
“We have all the locations mapped and know where the contaminated areas are and this fire is not burning near them,” she told The Associated Press. “It’s further than two miles from the nearest impacted soils.”
So 2 miles, and we know the winds have not blown in 60 years there so no contaminated soil would have moved or been pick up by any source, animals or human nor vehicles running through the area ?
Very simply… You are right xdrfox.
Simple logic seems to be a lost art?
They will continue to BS us until the end and it will be be “regrettable”. Then, they will deny it again.
There is no BP Oil in the GOM, RIGHT !
The oil and the corexit are killing everything in its path. Truth.
05/26/2011
http://www.aquariusnation.com/19/post/2011/05/the-oil-and-the-corexit-is-killing-everything-in-its-path-truth.html
In Kavanzo’s Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:47:39 post, the last paragraph was an answer as to why we are here, on enenews, also…
Thank you everyone for your comments, for speaking up. Thank you everyone for sharing this link. Thank you everyone for continuing to talk about this and share it with everyone you know. On this path that is all you can do. And only later in time do you see how those small steps were essential to bringing about a result we can not see yet. But continue to follow this yellow brick road because there is a destination to it…
XDRFOX: That site you link is incredible. I’ve followed the Gulf disaster carefully and am writing about it, as well as the Fukushima disaster.
I’m writing about them because I am so sickened inside that I fear for our future.
I have been in shock for over a year now. I cannot believe these environmental disasters are allowed to occur without redmediation and without concern for public health.
Your cites and comments are always excellent, with Whoopies too (and many others as well!)
Thank you! http://www.aquariusnation.com/19/post/2011/05/the-oil-and-the-corexit-is-killing-everything-in-its-path-truth.html
It is worse then anyone knows and each day more inevitable the dangers !
Here is a story I did with video and many links (at bottom of page) to other stories (lot’s of Photo’s) I wrote from last and this year as the tragedy unfolded !
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/143/686/Corexit_Being_Used_On_The_East_Coast.html
Spread the word, and send me a link to your story, would love to read it !
Take note, these people are risking their health going to these areas to do this record and breathing the air, I know it got me and many others !
XDRFOX
I believe every word in your essay and followed the gulf crisis carefully. There were definite reports of flights at night and subcontractors in Florida.
What I don’t know is what coast?
My essay is going to be part of a book I’m writing on Neofuedalism. One chapter addresses Fukushima and the Gulf Disasters. Another chapter addresses food and another addresses the economic pillaging. Unfortunately, I have to go with an academic publisher so the book will not be in bookstores…
majia
Feel free to use any photos on my pages in you book, they are free to use as all the information I provide, I copyright nothing !
I have also been keeping track of the deaths in the oceans, record starting in Jan this year.
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/stories/by/0000000000004882
I know… it makes one take note !
xrdrfox
That is a very generous gift to make your photos widely available.
You should contact the university of florida or georgia’s marine biology departments (both have spoken out) and share the link to your collection of stories. The list would be helpful (to me as well).
What it looks like:
I Saw None of the Usual Life There, Only Algae Seems Thriving in …
Feb 3, 2011 – Went to the Halifax River yesterday to take a look at the waters of the Inter Coastal Waterway. I brought my camera to show you what I found …
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/394/701/I_Saw_None_of_the_Usual_Life_There,_Only_Algae_Seems_Thriving_in_the_Halifax_River_Fl._PICS.html
: (
Coast
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast
Thanks for the link. I’m sending this to those I know. People must not forget this travesty and the lives that were ruined, both human and wildlife. It’s unforgivable.
See that dust storm last week, whats in all that dust ?
6 Jul 2011 … A monstrous dust storm roared through Phoenix, Arizona on Tuesday night, delaying flights and causing power outages for thousands of people.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/phoenix-dust-storm-photos-video_n_891157.html
YouTube – Phoenix Dust Storm: Video of Doomsday Scenes in Arizona
6 Jul 2011 … These amazing pictures from the United States show a wall of dust moving through the city of Phoenix in Arizona. Sandstorms like this happen …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W4Cx44XKZ4
Fires in Arizona past few weeks ? here on site
Doctor My Eyes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCTYxIsLThA
THEY LIE!! How many times do we have to say that!!??! They are lying through their TEETH!
Has it occurred to you that, everyone here,
is tired of you and your “HP” shit?
ZombiePlanet
Whoopie, I appreciate all the articles that you post here from HP. If someone doesn’t want to read something, they don’t have to.
Glad to see you post that ZP. HuffoPost has lost viewers since the sell out and I think some of these posters that tout Huffo are paid to do so. I just ignore them, most are just hot air, they just make it difficult to weed them out and read the posters that really have something useful to say.
Of course not.
Dogs ALWAYS return to their vomit.
Well ” Whoopie. “
My friend die in 1968 !
Glad that contamination doesn’t leave the test areas !
Two miles? Remember, if you are within 20 miles of a nuclear blast, it will burn the skin off your body. I would say the surrounding area would have to be contaminated.
One I missed – came through a Tweet
The Truth of Nuclear Power Plants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBVQ3B-Jvrw
Long but riveting talk by Hiroaki Koide (U.Kyoto) Perverse laws r discussed towards the end.
Has it occurred to you that, everyone here,
is tired of you and your “HP” shit?
ZombiePlanet
Whoopie, I especially appreciated this video.
ZP must eat radiation for breakfast.
Not in my diet.
Only “Whoopie” __ “HP” based crap.
anne…
What is the anne entity?
Another cry babe. Online with “Whoopie…” sensualist ” LOOK AT MY EGO.
Oh, the dump truck guidance.
My poor EGO!
@Jebus
Don’t feel bad, experiments with radioactive materials were going on way before you were born 50 yrs ago. And killing people, including good ole Madam Curie who died from her experiments. In the beginning researchers really didn’t know the ramifications and information moved slowly – unlike now.
Although much more is known today, big money and politics have kept it quiet. It takes something like Fuk to awaken many – but the majority are still oblivious. Maybe the “fat, dumb and happy” will live just as long as those who are aware – they obviously suffer less stress!
BTW Anyone notice the proposed long-term storage site, Yucca Mt, is sitting in Nellis also and the proximity to Vegas?
Even tho this is an older thread, I wanted to share a couple of things about the Nev. site.
1. It is known as Area 52 ( as in area 51) Alot of nuclear testing there over the years as xdrfox shows.
2.Those earlier years, alot of Western Cowboy and other movies were made quite close. A number of actors and actresses stated later in live they believed they got cancer because they never alerted anyone about what they were doing there.
One actor was John Wayne.
(I’m an old movie buff for years and years and have read countless books, articles, etc. on their lives.
OH my God! Interesting and prob CORRECT connection. Never thought about that TP. ty
26 Oct 1984… John Wayne died of cancer after an A-bomb test in Nevada. … cancer as of the early 1980s and 46 died of it, including stars John Wayne …
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/374/did-john-wayne-die-of-cancer-caused-by-a-radioactive-movie-set
According to her death certificate, she had colon cancer for years. … Elizabeth Montgomery died quietly, alone, on May 18th. … On January 4, 2008 a star for Elizabeth Montgomery was unveiled on the Hollywood … She worked on that John Wayne film, where everyone got cancer. They filmed it in nuke land, Nevada. …
http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/m/Elizabeth%20Montgomery/elizabeth_montgomery.htm
OMG…
The Whoopie toilet has over flowed ! !
Whoopie, let’s all run to HP!! HP ! !
What a joke.
Please “Whoopie” guide us into the future.
I am surer you are wise.
What is with you? I see no reason to get down on Whoopie that way. She has always had great and informative posts.
100% agreed. We want our Whoopie, and folks posting offensive comments can return to their Zombie Planet
😉
The entire crew of one movie died of cancer as a result of shooting on a site that had dirt trucked in from a radioactive test site. The film was THE CONQUEROR with John Wayne starring. Producer Howard Hughes was so guilty about this that he never showed the film again after the news was known and the crew started to die off.
The movie assures me of reality.
That’s where my money is.
Whoopie…
ZombiePlanet
They made a lot of nuclear explosions in the fifties, XDr Fox’s list is huge, what about the secret experiments they don’t tell you about ( military secrecy)Seems obvious that some radiated particles are gonna burn. A couple of miles from test site? Not good. People used to drive out from Cali and sit on top of Vegas Hotels to watch the show. Innocent times.
True. Innocent (time) and so very STUPID, that was me during the BUILDUP! In many ways, I’ll never forgive myself for being to naive about where our power was coming from. 60 plus years of BLINDLY allowing this shit to go on. NO MORE!
Be careful of those you quote on the internet, you never know if there true..
“Abraham Lincoln”
Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose – and you allow him to make war at pleasure.
Abraham Lincoln
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/abraham_lincoln.html
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Abraham Lincoln
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable – a most sacred right – a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world.
Abraham Lincoln
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/abraham_lincoln.html
Did he use Windows 3.0
In a hundred years no one will remember !
xdrfox
Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable – a most sacred right – a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world.
Abraham Lincoln
like
JFK’s wife gave birth to a child that died, he believe it was from radiation and banded testing !
Really? God xdrfox – you are full of stuff I’ve never heard before. Not pulling my leg, are you?
I only knew about the one while in Office as President, sad they had the same horrible experience before !
I am sure he had sources that were truthful to him about the link !
Never pull your leg,… might push it though !
: )
They had two children who died. Jacqueline gave birth to a stillborn child in 1956; in 1963, another died 36 hours after his birth. … Her father, without conferring with his wife, allowed a lobotomy to be performed in 1941. … After JFK’s assassination, Bobby won election as senator from New York and became a …
http://www.kennedy-web.com/tree.htm
“….Bobby was KILLED TOO”
That’s interesting. I sure appreciate all your neat facts on things. Even these older ones, fascinate me.TY
The true powers that be couldn’t let good people run our country !
Bobby, John & Martin – Has anyone seen my old friend…Bobby
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZuy5xjDjj0&feature=related
Dion – Abraham, Martin And John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ki_osW5RsA&feature=related
He had the scientist do test with a material that was the same weight as radiation particles to see how far they traveled and winds would take them, only to find out later the material they used was also a cancer causing material !
Very NICE Tweet just came through for EX-skf
MyFukushima Fukushima
Need Facts on _Fukushima_ Disaster? I added a link on my blog to this: http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/. Japanese kid who… http://dlvr.it/ZptLy
I love it when tweets like this come through. It shows PEOPLE CARE and validly point to GRASSROOTS type blogs.
I’m thinking I might get a Twitter acct and post to the Fukusall Tag too. I could tweet this sight, HP and Reality Check.
Ummmm…I’ll think that over.
what’s to think! rc is all over tweets! oh would u pretty please?! how sweet!
I knew it! I just KNEW this Rupert Murdoch thing was about to get bigger and BIGGER!
NewsCorp attempted to hack phones of 9-11 victims. Now America is a player in this scandal.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/911-victims-targeted-by-tabloid-phone-hackers-20110711-1ha90.html#ixzz1RlyjOzJI
Can we hope we’ll find some LEAKS on Fukashima? On the Plants HERE? Wait for it! It will come I bet!
It just occurred to me. Are we (the regular posters here) all over 40?
Are all the younger ones, who didn’t live through the beginning of all this, the baby boomers kids, are they the oblivious ones?
I don’t know Jebus. I’m fairly new so really don’t know the ages of others. It would be curious to know…ARE THERE YOUNG ONES HERE? I pray to God there is!
I hope young people here. Me 50 in grade 6 we had to bring newspaper clippings in and do news presentation for class every day a different group, no calculators, I work with young people and yes they are smart but generally do not follow current events or understand Canadian parliament system etc etc. Not putting down younger generation but I truly believe public education better when I was young. Who’s young posting ( or reading ) here?
Did Canada Dumb Kids down like here in the US? We oldtimers have watch a STUPIDITY take over like nothing we’ve ever seen before. Sure it took decades but we’ve watched it year after year. Same problem with you up there?
Whatever the answer is, it brings me to realization: We HAVE TO GET MORE BLOGS GOING (as discussed other thread) to Wake these frigging Sheeple up! THERE IS NO OTHER WAY. All the smart ones here should do it. I’d name them but there’s so many.
BLOGS
GRASSROOTS
TRUTH TELLERS
I’m good at spreading links.
There just HAS to be a better answer than all of sitting here going: OMG!
(easy for ME to say, I know)
We ALL should probably start Tweeting too. Early on at HP I used to go to other ACTIVE threads and say: “Forget what the Repub’s are doing! Fukushima should be on everybody’s RADAR!” I’ve kinda stopped doing that – dunno why. The answer with HP is….catch a THREAD WHILE HOT! And sadly threads on Japan NEVER STAY hot. (pushed to back pages)
I’ll start doing that again though. Its slipped my mind the last couple of weeks. 🙂 Hit the Front Top Article and GO TO TOWN.
Remember: We are fighting a very BIG INDUSTRY and a dumbed down POPULATION.
Bla, bla bla…talking your ears off tonight. Sorry.
Oh man! I just figured out what’s up with me!!
VINO! WINE! That’s what it is. Bla, Bla, Bla IS WHY. Hope everyone has a great night! I’m hanging back for a bit to watch the FIREWORKS (tweets) then off to bed. Wine does it everytime. (it’s early TOO so SAD 🙁 )
Whoopie, I find it’s the older ones who are “dumbed down” and the younger generation who are wiser than their years in what their country is really like. My grandchildren give me great hope for the future…if only radiation does not cut them short.
Still have the younge boy in me !
: P
Body ancient, mind younger than springtime.
I’m over 45 and a college professor. I can tell you that 97 percent or so of the young people I encounter are oblivious.
However, I don’t know if my students are representative of all young people.
My experience though is that young people DO NOT WANT TO KNOW. It is very disturbing.
I’m 36
Woo Woo
; ) Wink !
We have so much in common, I am 63 !
The young people seem fairly disenfranchised older generation to blame not called the me generation for nothing.
Original Hippies moved on to become Yuppies, a generation bought for cheap..
Old man take a look at my life. I’m a lot like you. I need someone to love me the whole day through. Ah, one look in my eyes …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW1l6hS0OPc
Try this one,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFNqj3RGUuM&feature=related
Neil makes me proud to be Canadian!
I teach in Canada. The students make projects, many of which contain dark themes. Death is a recurring character. I am sorry for them. They know.
When I was a young girl I never expected to live to this age. No one my age did, we all expected to die in a nuclear war. Now, it will be a nuclear ‘peace’.
Sure respect what teachers do but why can’t 20 somethings do math in their head? Understand different countries political systems? Even overheard at Starbucks thirty something teachers preparing assignments compare US and Canada political systems as similar. Had to correct canada parliament system based on england US not.
Would you agree us older people had better education?
Not necessarily. We had more time to pursue education. Life was much simpler then. Also, not as much to learn. We were not “latchkey” kids; that helped.
Yes we were not latchkey kids at least not many of us back then.
But I don’t know about how we had more time to pursue education. Back then if you were dumb you were dumb and they kept you back a grade these days nobody wants to hurt anybodies feelings and I think they tend to push you along anyways. Apparently this goes right to sports where everyone gets “participation medal” instead of !st 2nd 3rd. But I agree with above post Kids dont want to know, more of a jaded attitude coupled with worse education, never heard about education budget shortfalls and higher education was more attainable 40 years ago with better career results
Where is America’s Fukushima”
http://1bog.org/blog/infographic-where-is-americas-fukushima/
On my way to bed I checked the front page at HP. Get a load of this shit enenews LADIES!!
WAR ON WOMEN SCORES ANOTHER VICTORY
‘If They Want To Have A Good Time, Why Not Let Them Pay For It?’
I DESPISE THE GOP! If…IF I could, I’d mow them down with my LAWNMOWER. Grrrrr
One more! Did you see this???
Obama Offered To Raise Medicare Eligibility Age As Part Of Debt Deal
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/obama-medicare-eligibility-age_n_894833.html
Oh man! This is outrageous!
So now not only do we have to fight the Nuclear Industry…we’re gonna have to fight this – THE WEAKEST PRESIDENT EVER?
Night all.
Whoopie by raising medicare eligibility they won’t have to fight us because we will all die from the cancers we get and cannot treat because we will lack health care.
whoopie, this is an international forum, and all this US-centric stuff is better left elsewhere. We’re about fukushima, worldwide. Maybe you could just post it on HP.
I agree…sickening.
whoopie, this is an international forum, and all this US-centric stuff is better left elsewhere. We’re about fukushima, worldwide. Maybe you could just post it on HP.
sorry a bit off topic of the article but not of the site:
http://planetsave.com/2011/07/10/france-is-now-first-nation-to-ban-fracking/
France’s Parliament has voted to ban the controversial oil/natural gas extraction technique known as fracking, making it the first nation to do so.
Source: Planetsave (http://s.tt/12PiS)
As reported in the June 30 on-line edition of Le Monde, the French Parliament has voted to ban hydraulic fracturing — the natural gas extracting technique known popularly as ‘fracking’.
The law had passed the National Assembly (France’s “lower” chamber of Parliament) nine days earlier and then moved on to the Senate, where the measure passed by a small majority of 176 (yes) to 151 (no). This makes France the first nation to ban the controversial extraction technique.
The vote fell mostly along party or ideological lines, with most pro-business conservatives voting against the ban and most liberals voting in favor. However, several of the opposing votes came from Socialist party members of Parliament — who typically side with their Liberal colleagues on many issues — who opposed it because of alleged loopholes in the law that would still permit other forms of shale extraction. An earlier measure introduced by the Socialist party sought to ban all forms of extraction from deep shale beds.
The new law provides a two month notification period in which companies with current oil shale drilling permits must notify the state as to which extraction technique they are using; if fracking is declared, or if the company fails to respond within that time period, the permits will be revoked.
Meanwhile, back in the U.S., the state of New York is moving towards lifting its moratorium on the practice, despite growing concerns over the toxic brew of chemicals used in the hydraulic fluids and more recent evidence that drinking water near fracking sites (those within one kilometer radius) have been contaminated by thermogenic methane (which derives from deep, shale bed sources), making the drinking/tap water unsafe and sometimes highly flammable…”
MORE AT LINK
FUKUSHIMA UPDATE: Dr. Bill Deagle tonight.
Appears to be second hour at:
http://www.rense.com/
10:00 pm til 1:00 am EDT.
Even France to prioritize renewable over nuclear energy
http://www.beyondnuclear.org/home/2011/7/11/even-france-to-prioritize-renewable-over-nuclear-energy.html
French ecology minister, Nathalie Kosciusko-Morizet, has announced plans for France to step up its investments in renewable energy, throwing into doubt future nuclear power expansion in the country. France gets 80% of its electricity from its 58 reactors. “Our objective is to rebalance the energy mix in favour of renewables,” Kosciusko-Morizet told the Financial Times. Regarding the future of nuclear, she told the FT: “We are investing in [nuclear] safety, not in growth objectives as we are doing in renewables.” France is launching a bid for five new offshore wind farms.
I am sure it will become a reality.
Right!
More noise from […] “Our objective is to…” […]
Plane BS.
I don’t disagree. 80% of their energy supply???!!!! That’s a serious HABIT!
“Plain.” BS!
That is, 10-O-clock Eastern Day Light time, USA.
Why does the subtitle, “Feds checking for radiation” …not give me any sense of security or comfort?
http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm
you might find this interesting–it confirms what we know
BP, The Gulf and Amoratized Lack of Responsibility
Put the two together, starting with this most recent article published July 9 2011
Title “BP Pressing to Head Off Future Claims From Oil Spill” in AZ Republic page 2 July 9, 2011
“BP is arguing that victims of last year’s Gulf oil spill should not be paid any more claims for future losses because the areas affected by the spill have recovered and the economy is improving”
NOW READ THIS
Published at Firedog Lake by Dr. Kirk J. Murphy
http://my.firedoglake.com/kirkmurphy/tag/corexit-9500/
Read the entire article at the link
McCallister, vice president of Allegiance Capital Corp. in Dallas, has been trying since June 5 to offer a dozen Greek skimming vessels from a client for the cleanup.
“By sinking and dispersing the oil [WITH COREXIT], BP can amortize the cost of the cleanup over the next 15 years or so, as tar balls continue to roll up on the beaches, rather than dealing with the issue now by removing the oil from the water with the proper equipment,” McCallister testified earlier this week before the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation. “As a financial adviser, I understand financial engineering and BP’s desire to stretch out its costs of remediating the oil spill in the Gulf. By managing the cleanup over a period of many years, BP is able to minimize the financial damage as opposed to a huge expenditure in a period of a few years…
AND NOW THE EVIL ENTITIES INVOLVED CAN ABSOLVE BP OF ANY FUTURE CLAIMS FOR FUTURE DAMAGERS
It just doesn’t make sense that USA wouldn’t hold BP accountable for all the hard-ship and economic loss Gulf Oil Spill caused and is still causing. Now a non issue far away over the MSM horizon. But searching children and old ladies in airports due to terrorism and national security, while spending TRILLIONS on foreign wars that seem to be replays of Vietnam (without the draft so no anti-war movement) . And now seems the pentagon is also supporting Tepco in the same way by withholding radiation measurements.
If it doesn’t make sense I guess I’m missing something…..
Workers are no longer needed to extract value.
It can be done through high frequency trading or by assaulting entire nations such as Greece and buying up firesale assets.
Wokers not needed, workers expendable–although, I don’t believe it is planned depopulation.
Yeah but these environmental disasters can’t be good for the economy, BP causes collapse of fishing and tourist trade Fukushima might trigger collapse of economy of Japan and many cancer victims will be a drag on USA. These events are like acts of war why arn’t we retaliating?
The corporations and hedge funds and powerful individuals that control government include GE, BP, Exxon-(whatever it is now), etc. Same scenario in Japan.
These entities don’t care about Florida’s tourist trade or Japan’s cattle ranchers.
These entities have no national allegiances. They will probably buy up property in uncontaminated areas, if there are any left…
Gotta go to bed Mark–nice chatting with you…
🙂
Likewise. I like that word, Neofuedalism! What we were talking about!
Great find majia, Thx
yeah, sure the fucking feds are testing…however, it is most assuredly only for research purposes. We are all lab rats!
I totally agree. The people who do this research are completely sociopathic.
Read Goliszek’s In the Name of Science and Welsome’s The Plutonium Files.
This may sound crazy but I want people’s honest viewpoints.
I’ve lived in the same house almost 11 years. The batteries have to be changed periodically in the house fire detectors but they never all go off on the same day.
Today all but 2 or 3 of them went off. They didn’t beep. They blared and then stopped abruptly, only to repeat several minutes or hours later.
I finally called the fire dept and they said to replace the batteries, it could be aged detectors, and they noted that THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING ALOT IN THE LAST 3 MONTHS.
I live in Phoenix.
Are they old?
http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthingswork/a/aa071401a.htm
Your thinking that your Ionization Detector is being set off by radio-active particles?
I’m no expert but it sounds reasonable
Yes the detectors are about 10 years old and I did read when I googled the problem that they do need to be changed approximately every 10 years but I wonder why so many people’s are having problems.
I don’t think they are being set off by present radiation so much as wonder whether the radiation in the detectors might have been impacted some how by increased ionizing radiation in the air over the last 3 months period….?????
Could be a demographic issue many people bought smoke detectors ten years ago in your area. Maybe insurance offered bonus for having smoke detectors installed ten years ago?
Radiation is something most including me know nothing about. We all know we are being lied to and truth withheld so it is easy to start worrying. Don’t think it effects smoke detectors that way. I take iodine is that crazy? Peace
There is actually radiation in smoke detectors
http://www.epa.gov/radiation/sources/smoke_alarm.html
“Ionization chamber smoke detectors contain a small amount of radioactive material encapsulated in a metal chamber. They take advantage of the ions created by ionizing radiation to develop a low, but steady electrical current. Smoke particles entering the chamber disrupt the current and trigger the detector’s alarm. Ionization chamber detectors react more quickly to fast flaming fires that give off little smoke.”
Still, it could very well be a demographic issue, I just don’t know enough about whether ionizing radiation could affect the radiation in the smoke detectors
The question should be are smoke detectors safe since it contains radioactive material.
Smoke detectors contain Americium 241 with a half life of 432 years and hence remain actively dangerous for 4320 years! And with the kind of care that people take even with regard to monsters like Fuku these detectors may find themselves close to life and they will just hush it up because it will create panic(sic)! If prtions of the Am241 get into the food chain, know ye all that dose has no meaning for internal emitters. I saw to it that in the company where I was working they replaced these with photoelectric types-all of some thousands- I carried the staff with me!
op’s
21 August 1945
Harry K. Daghlian Jr. was killed during the final stages of the Manhattan Project (undertaken at Los Alamos, New Mexico to develop the first atomic bomb) from a radiation burst released when a critical assembly of fissile material was accidentally brought together by hand. This incident pre-dated remote-control assembly of such components, but the hazards of manual assembly were known at the time (the accident occurred during a procedure known as “tickling the dragon’s tail”). A similar incident, involving another fatality, occurred the following year (see next entry), after which hand-maniuplations of critical assemblies was abandoned…
21 May 1946
A nuclear criticality accident occured at the Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory in New Mexico. Eight people were exposed to radiation, and one, Louis Slotin, died nine days later later of acute radiation sickness….
http://www.lutins.org/nukes.html