Former Energy Dept. Official: People near Tokyo “were getting a yearly radiation dose in about 10 minutes” from Fukushima releases — “Radioactive gases might have been leaving at a rate of 300% a day, instead of 1% assumed by designer” (AUDIO)

Published: April 4th, 2014 at 3:38 pm ET
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Fukushima at Three: Folklore vs. Facts, Institute for Policy Studies, Mar. 7, 2014:

  • At 9:15 in — Robert Alvarez, senior Energy Department official on nuclear issues from 1993-99: I think that the jury as to the exact amount that was released in the air and the water but over time the amount of the radioactive materials released to the air was I would say roughly in the ballpark of the Chernobyl accident.
  • At 14:00 in — Alvarez: The radioactive gases might have been leaving at a rate of 300% a day, instead of 1% assumed by the designers. [...] A radioactive isotope, a short live isotope called xenon-133, which is very radioactive, was found to 400,000 times normal in the city of Chiba. For 8 days. People were likely to be heavily exposed from just the short-lived isotopes. […] So they were getting a yearly dose in about 10 minutes.

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182 comments to Former Energy Dept. Official: People near Tokyo “were getting a yearly radiation dose in about 10 minutes” from Fukushima releases — “Radioactive gases might have been leaving at a rate of 300% a day, instead of 1% assumed by designer” (AUDIO)

  • zogerke zogerke

    Thank you Robert Alvarez.


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  • Ontological Ontological

    Remember to assume makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and out of 'me'.


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  • mairs mairs

    So what about SFP 4 then. How could they possibly have discussed it losing it's integrity as a container, waterless and burning… discussed it extensively and what to do about it, if it didn't actually happen?


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  • 16Penny 16Penny

    Does anyone else have a problem with "Senior Officials" making junk statements about Assuming levels of something for which they are supposed to be the expert?

    Do your job Robert Alvarez!

    Study the data, collect your own independent data to verify or disprove the other data coming from TEPCO (which is know to be off by varying factors of 10 often). So many scientists and pro nukes talking about studies and scientific method and this bureaucrat comes out with public statements about his assumptions?

    Until proven otherwise, I am assuming this guy is an asshat.

    They assumed there would be a method of storage and disposal that would be developed.

    They assumed that nuclear power plants could have an accident because of all the safeguards.

    They assumed WIPP would be able to hide their dirty secrets long enough for them to slip safely into their graves.

    Wrong

    Wrong

    Wrong

    Wrong


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    • 16Penny 16Penny

      OK, the designers assumed,

      Alvarez . . . might . . . likely . . . I think . . . roughly in the ballpark . . .


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    • rakingmuck

      So mad I am posting it on multiple sites where I have many followers (different name) as pure hog wash.


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    • We Not They Finally

      16Penny, I know that you're angry (I am too!) and I know that you think he is lying. But far as we know, shy of any current resume, he is out of office.

      It's good to check on this, because sometimes people step forwards because they finally realize it's disastrous and that their voice might help. Then at least they have the chance to evolve into how bad it really is, and their voice is out there.

      Maybe everything you say is true. I'm just saying CHECK. It gets easy to paint everyone with the same brush.

      Even Arnie Gundersen. He's EVOLVED. Even his wife Maggie says that he wasn't fully turned around until Fukushima. Let's check on people's background and where they come from. There actually MAY be people out there previously pro-nuke, who make turn-arounds just because it is transparently such an ongoing disaster. And if they are mo longer on the payroll of the nuclear industry, then there is something to work with. If so, then their voice is needed.

      Like Gregory Jacskzo. He has not gone nearly far enough — no, of course not. But once he was booted off the NRC, he was feel to speak AT ALL.


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      • Everyone is evolving, or let's hope so anyway.

        Everyone is learning from each other, or let's hope so anyway.

        Everyone is important.

        Do what your heart tells you, it will not lead you astray.


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        • skizexq skizexq

          wise words, Doc!*
          question remains what will we evolve to?
          …When all wars seem to be bankers wars ?
          The war for accurate information on the bones of
          the machine that will someday kill us all (Nukes).

          *My Dad often signed off in letters, back before '95 when emails erode that form of communication, with "Carpe Diem!"


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      • 16Penny 16Penny

        Wise words We Not They Finally.

        He is retired so not his job. More voices are needed that have been on the other side, they can provide lots of useful insight and perhaps help to wake up others.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      you need to bring this story, ACD, to admin's attention. Use the "SUBMIT YOUR TIPS" window…


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Or this:

      'EPA Conducted Pollution Experiments on Children'

      "In February of 2013, JunkScience.com reported that the EPA gave USC money in the mid 2000’s to find out whether diesel exhaust could “induce reproducible gene expression” in children. From a USC grant in the EPA extramural research grants database, the original December 14, 2012 document showed diesel exposures to children. What now sits on that database is a strongly edited description of the diesel tests on the children. Part of the the experiment's goal was to examine how particulate matter affects "Asthma in Susceptible Children.""

      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/02/EPA-Conducted-Pollution-Experiments-on-Children

      'EPA tested deadly pollutants on humans to push Obama admin’s agenda'

      "The Environmental Protection Agency has been conducting dangerous experiments on humans over the past few years in order to justify more onerous clean air regulations.

      The agency conducted tests on people with health issues and the elderly, exposing them to high levels of potentially lethal pollutants, without disclosing the risks of cancer and death, according to a newly released government report."

      http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/02/report-epa-tested-deadly-pollutants-on-humans-to-push-obama-admins-agenda/


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      • Breitbart is doing a hatchet job on the EPA, to get it dismantled, like the post office hatchet job.

        Eliminate all govt. Leave corps in control of everything.

        Privatize what is left.

        No more protection at all for citizens.


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        • AlexfromNB

          Government inevitable wrecks everything it touches. The corruption, incompetance and lies never end. The answer is to create a organization much like UL – Underwriter's Laboratories, that issues its own independent advisories based on science, testing and statisical analysis. This affects insurance, risk management and banking. Those products that fail UL standards cannot be brought successfully to market as they won't be deemed safe. Just a few thoughts…


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          • zogerke zogerke

            respectfully disagree. i live in a city. i appreciate garbage pick up, lights at night, paving, water main service, school busses to school (regardless of how tortured the school system is), bussing, subways, police when i was mugged, firemen and women when there was a fire…..appreciate OSHA regulations and the education I got in puvlic schools; appreciate the wins of the legal judicial system that instituted racial equality, anti segregation, women rights, the eight hour day, and a zillion other 'civilized' things i take for granted as an american. My pain yes pain is how all that has been and is being corrupted and destroyed by an oligarchy military industrial complex and yes banking complex. The gov't system in thei country was never free of it but it is accelerated in my lifetime. We need to use our non-violent ACTIONS to educte and litigate nd economic boycott and protest and DRAG the populaces AWAKE AWAKE to regain what has been lost- not throw out the baby with the bath water and abandon what our forbears died for on these shores.


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            • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

              most pathologist, zogerke, will advise isolation in response to raging plague. The forces that we're up against are far-more proactive in their response to any challenge, than most understand. They've constructed controlled opposition and utilized advanced perception management techniques. The Occupy Wall Street movement was but one example of this control. They flawlessly co-opted a movement that fully understood its enemy. Yet that very movement found itself at the mercy of an array of corrosive efforts and eventually succumbed. None of this should be seen as grounds for resignation. On the contrary, feel free to struggle against the machine. Just know, what's now in motion will lay complete and utter waste upon those who chose mammon over the truth. The survivors (yes…there are survivors) will know what brought about the demise of the first global empire and do what is necessary to avoid entrapment. Appealing to the better half of self-serving entities, will not be found on that list of solutions…


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              • zogerke zogerke

                aftershock, not sure i understand the metaphor you are using, probably cause i am being way too literal due to my occupation:
                in a plague, until you figure out the mode of transmission of disease- is it airborne, bloodborne, spread by droplets or by direct or indirect contact….how long does the pathogen live on an unsanitized surface, what deactivates it….to isolate you must institute engineering controls, decontamination methods, and personal protective equipment while the pathogens are examined elsewhere in a lab under a duct hood to determine how to beat them back…..and at best offer both treatment and future immunity….

                You are naming the problem ( mammon/ oligarchy control with no future humanistic vision but fascism for most and luxury for a few)…saying that occupy couldn't make change (perhaps it was just one opening skirmish of a longer non violent battle)…and then what are you trying to say? forgive my lack of understanding, respectfully asked.

                Caveat- i agree with Socrates that there is progress to be made judicially, as well as other means…and we need to LAST and protect ourselves and survive ourselves, through this onslaught…..


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                • zogerke zogerke

                  ah- not clear myself:
                  Until you figure out how the disease and plague is spread, isolation WILL NOT STOP IT.


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                  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                    appreciate the thoughtful response, zogerke. I purposely used the "raging" modifier to describe what's happening. I see things as out of control; on all levels. Rather than join the bucket brigade, I'd suggest putting 'practical' distance between oneself and the danger, and letting it all burn down to the ground.

                    Until such time as TPTB show signs of wanting genuine progress, I'll not be snookered into further interaction with them. It's likely they'll see such non-cooperation as grounds for further exploitation. Truth is, I've never begrudged them for their dream of world domination. Heck. When you look back through the wreckage of human history, you'd have to be insane to see the self-destructive behavior continue, unabated. But as long as the elite continue using chaos as means of empowerment, I shall refrain from becoming party to their twisted aspirations. I'd not look down on anyone who thinks they can make a difference by working within the system. Kudos to them! I've simply run-out of any trust in these people. I don't care if it's through the courts or the streets, I have no confidence it their ability to get things right. Hence, my desire to see it returned to weeds.

                    I was but one. They are the many. Who stands to lose the most becomes the real issue. I'll leave this world with nothing more than memories of deprivation. Their lot will be far more difficult to let go of…


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              • clamshellernh clamshellernh

                Well they are back days of rage
                Actions planned across country as occupy comes back stronger . This is not a sleep in ..goes till july forth .I'm hoping to get fukushima on the boston radar ..so much to do
                Will keep everyone updated . Sorry ot following bouncing ball
                Also sixty minutes est has peice on fuku tonite let's go to webpage and promote enenews ect..
                Carry on


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            • 4Warnd 4Warnd

              Zo – thanks for pulling the till back from simple devolvement into political hysterics. I too like my garbage picked up -


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          doubtless you're fully aware, Goodheart, corporate control of the United States government was formally instituted during the Regan administration. That control was ratified by the Supreme Court's decision to recognize corporations as living entities.

          Truth is, few 'governments' on the planet act as representative bodies; least of all, the American people's so-called government. Agencies, like the EPA, are maintained to perpetrate the illusion of government autonomy. Even the most sensitive areas of government, such as intelligence gathering, are now 'farmed out' to corporations.

          Expecting any (and I do mean any) action on behalf of the people by government, is a fool's dream. We are and have been on our own for close to a century-and-a-half. Such is why we found ourselves where we have. And while most would think that corporations are the culprits in this ongoing deception, it is only until you look into who actually has fiscal control of these same entities, that the full picture remains hidden…


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          • Angela_R

            AfterShock, you've pinpointed the entry, where your Constitution was undermined. It is happening elsewhere.

            The lack of realization is astounding, as you know though, it is falling apart. What surprises me is they didn't know it would.
            Btw did you ever hear G.Edward Griffin?


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            • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

              you must study, Angela_R, the strengths of humans to understand their greatest vulnerabilities. It was our ability to use our individual skills in concert with others, that we found ourselves triumphing over adversity; both natural and man made. But as society morphed into more complex 'organisms', individuality followed behind the clamoring masses. Add advanced technologies into the mix and you've the making of a catastrophe. The hierarchy of social control eventually evolved into institutions of power. The pyramid came to reflect our social structure. We failed to actualize (really understand) that the complex social order that evolved to meet the needs of the many, was still being driven by the decisions of the individual. We even accepted the terminology of that control: Chief Executive Officer, Emperor, Commander and Chief, and so on. We never fully understood that the individual in charge could be compelled by self interest, to sign off on efforts (economic/political/social/etc) that might have devastating long-term effects on our world. That children around the world and countless other lifeforms would be so effected was impossible to fathom by any one individual; including the pyramid's latest penthouse occupant. Our perception of the world about us never caught up with the reality of the technology that was served-up to the lone decision maker…


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          • We Not They Finally

            Aftershock, you're correct about "from the Reagan era on." First it was announced that "government is the problem." Then he appointed department heads who believed that all government should be privatized! No federal Education Department, just vouchers for private schools. No Interior Department, just give away federal land for private mining. No Department of Energy except to serve the oil moguls. Etc., etc. By the time Bush-Cheney was done, the "Small Business Administration" was in the hands of the Fortune 500! And K Street lobbyists running the show everywhere.

            Then people turn around and say, "You see? Government is the problem." And by then, it's so twisted and ordinary people so disempowered, that they just go, "yes, yes, yes."

            Thomas Jefferson would have been highly dismayed! Never what he and those around him envisioned or wanted.

            But it looks like no one can just "rescue American government" either. Now it's GLOBAL, and it's government by the banks!

            And this may SEEM to be OT, but not really. Like what is the public court of appeals to force the EPA to have NOT raised so-called "safe" radiation levels to lethal? We COULD have, or MIGHT have, responsive government if the populace was at least educated that people's interests have to come first, WHATEVER the government. And that takes massive, broad-based education.

            Part of why I always thought that the path to a least TRY was massive public teach-ins. But the populace…


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    • rogerthat

      from the hanford story: ''WRPS President Dave Olson sent an email to workers saying the company will reinstitute a Chemical Vapors Safety team and considers actions to improve hazard analysis, controls and response.''

      So they used to have a safety team for chemical vapors and they used to test for them? So why did they disband the team and stop testing for vapors? Did the stuff in the tanks suddenly stop emitting them, or was it a money thing?


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      • rogerthat

        … or was it a need for plausible deniability? whocoodanode? we weren't testing, we thought it wasn't necessary, we didnit know these tanks containing the most toxic brew known to man were emitting toxic vapors. whocoodanode?


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        • We Not They Finally

          My brain must keep looking for the "out" button, rogerthat: As soon as I got as far as reading "President Dave," I was in the movie "Dave," where the real President is in a coma and they find a look-alike who is running a temp agency and doesn't know sh-t from shinola about the Presidency.

          The "President" at Hanford sounds like what? Clueless, corrupt, doesn't even know that his JOB is to provide safety around lethal materials?

          That's like the management at WIPP saying they are so happy they will be getting real-time dosimeters for the workers they are sending down below. They sent workers down there for fifteen years WITHOUT dosimeters?


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      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        WIPP it good, at 100mph (from 2002):

        'Nuclear waste road accidents don't faze WIPP'

        "August, a drunk driver crashed into a truck in southern New Mexico that was hauling 28 55-gallon drums of nuclear waste to the Waste Isolation Pilot Project in Carlsbad, N.M. (HCN, 4/12/99: Nuclear waste dump opens). Less than two weeks later, the driver of another truck carrying waste to WIPP blacked out, hurtling across an interstate median in Idaho. His backup driver was asleep in the cab.

        In July, the New Mexico Department of Transportation reported 89 minor violations found in WIPP vehicles, which haul waste from the Idaho National Engineering and Environmental Laboratory. "It's only a matter of time until there's a more serious accident," says Don Hancock of the Southwest Research and Information Center, a WIPP watchdog group based in Albuquerque."

        Hancock says it's not enough. He believes that every vehicle carrying radioactive waste should have an escort and an emergency response team.

        "Escorts are costly and unnecessary," says Hurtt, "except in special circumstances, like during the Winter Olympics."

        This fall, Congress is expected to increase the WIPP budget by $14 million in order to accelerate waste shipments."

        http://www.hcn.org/issues/235/13407


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "but over time the amount of the radioactive materials released to the air was I would say roughly in the ballpark of the Chernobyl accident"

    Not so.. considering the amount of material on-site ..and now is x-containment?
    Simple as that…


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  • Socrates

    Chernobyl resulted in wild boars being too full of 134/137Cs to eat.


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  • Homolumina Homolumina

    Every day more heart shattering news…I am at a loss of words


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  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    Everything's fine! The world is soon to be without bananas:

    'BANANAGEDDON: Millions face hunger as deadly fungus decimates global banana crop'

    "Scientists have warned that the world’s banana crop, worth £26 billion and a crucial part of the diet of more than 400 million people, is facing “disaster” from virulent diseases immune to pesticides or other forms of control."

    All those government experts telling us that Fukushima is no worse than a banana will rejoice at this good news. We're saved!


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  • Never fear, the DNA mutant monster creaters or on it. They are combining the banana DNA with genpets, so you can have your banana and eat your child too.
    (horror sarcasm)


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  • "Scientists have warned that the world’s slave crop, worth £666 trillion and a crucial part of the diet of more than 7 billion people, is facing “disaster” from exposure to radiation that caused virulent diseases immune to Big Pharma or other forms of control."

    there, i fixed it.


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  • Gen. Buck Turgidson

    I guess that if mainstream media embraced the truth and reported this story for what it is, you'd be facing widespread breakdown of civil society. "The third largest economy in the world is toast, covered in highly toxic radioactive materials, which has already covered us as well. Here's Stan with sports…"


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  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    From ZeroHedge:

    "Herman J Mueller discovered in 1927 the following: ARTIFICIAL TRANSMUTATION OF THE GENE by radiation (Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1946) There was the Geneva Summit 1955, about the "peaceful" use of nuclear energy. Mueller wanted to present his report in which he had calculated that people in 200 to 300 years – by the current radiation – will have genetic damage as the most affected survivors of Hiroshima. These people, in 10 generations, would have to work only for one thing: To obtain the means to take care of their suffering. This is what Mueller wanted to tell, BUT the AEC (Predecessor of the NRC) gave him no talk permission. [cut for brevity]"

    http://www.sunypress.edu/p-513-mans-future-birthright.aspx

    Written prior to 1967. I wonder what the good professor would say now.


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Oh, by the way, we're already 3 generations in, and now add the Fukushima radiation.

      If one was to graph the increase in radiation-induced mutations in the global population, at this point the line would go straight up.


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      • GQR2

        whoa and you can bet TIS the good people of Japan are going to be keeling over in the street,in their homes all over the place. Japan will not be able to hide the suffering from Radiation Exposure induced illnesses.

        In the ball park of Chernobyl Fukushima left Chernobyl in the dust and they are both on-going anyway.

        They talk about Fukushima like its over.

        It will never be over.

        What does the Nuclear Cabal and the U.N.(governments)think is going to happen?
        Oh wait that's right the UN found 80 scientists to lie about Radiation Exposure.
        So wadda they gonna do?..One day they just go whoops our bad
        all the world has a fatal radiation exposure bioaccumuating.
        We've ruined the earth as we humans know it forever…here have a pizza?


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    • SadieDog

      - KING 5 also learned that 25 workers refused to go into the A tank farm on Friday morning because they said safety procedures promised by WRPS were not completely in place. WRPS said work resumed by afternoon, but workers who spoke with KING 5 said there was no plan to return to work in the A farm until Monday when monitoring equipment is supposed to be installed.


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      • We Not They Finally

        Which does also make you wonder why safety procedures were not LONG SINCE ALREADY in place.

        Like for WIPP — they're excited that they will finally be able to send men underground (possibly to the deaths?) to check out the radiation once the real-time dosimeters arrive? So they've been working there for fifteen years WITHOUT real-time dosimeters?


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      • zogerke zogerke

        Thank Spirit Creative Impulse G word whatever that:
        The workers had enough cajones to refuse to wortk in dangerous situation
        recognized hazard
        had union backing (?)
        KNew how to get press on their side (strategy)
        refused in a legal way that protected them from being fired-
        WHICH IS PART OF OSHA REGS

        WISH they had done it years ago before all the collateral damage…


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  • bo bo

    Again I apologize for beating this story to the ground.. but I am glad my sister had the foresight to leave Chiba. Are you reading this ? I am so proud of you for thinking on your own, not letting the naysayers get to you.


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  • We Not They Finally

    That means that the residents got 1,176 times the YEARLY dose in just eight days? And then (of course) more ongoing? And that so-called "safe yearly dose" was probably calculated for a healthy 30-year-man. Children are ever so much more radiosensitive.

    And where are they all forced to live NOW? And who is following their medical care? This is so wildly unconscionable, it is hard to process.


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  • And that is assuming they only got a dose equal to Chernobyl..

    It could be multiples of that, easily.. but no one will go there, for fear of the panic.

    Remember when radioactive iodine levels shot up in the drinking water to over the limit in Tokyo?

    What level does it take in the air to cause that to happen in WATER, 500 km from Fuku?


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  • RememberThis RememberThis

    Japanese self suicide….harikari

    Problem is…….others are being dragged own with them.


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  • RememberThis RememberThis

    down…damn typos urk


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

    Fukushima Unit 1 To Undergo Spent Fuel Pool Desalination
    April 4th, 2014
    “…Unit 1 had a smaller amount of fuel assemblies in the spent fuel pool compared to the other reactors.
    Spent fuel pool current inventory 392
    Spent fuel pool damaged assemblies: 70…”
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=12760


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

    TEPCO Downplays Huge Risks Involved in Fukushima Fuel Rods
    Arnie Gundersen: Agencies overseeing cleanup like the IAEA are biased towards defending and promoting nuclear power – December 2, 13
    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=11085


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  • weeman

    I am speechless.
    No wonder they never told the population to reside indoors, you can't escape gas, you have to breath.
    Is it to late to stop the madness, I am beginning to wonder.
    Let it be and let nature take it course.
    Hope you don't think nature has not dealt with this situation before, we smart, to smart for our own good?


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  • Jebus Jebus

    FDA Adds Alaska Salmon Testing To Radiation Monitoring Program
    April 1, 2014

    Alaska Department of Environmental Conservation State Director of Environmental Health Elaine Busse Floyd says samples of Alaska fish have been submitted to a Federal Food and Drug Administration testing program.

    “We were able to just encourage the FDA to add 20 samples of Alaskan fish to their annual monitoring program to specifically look and test fish for radionuclides,” she said.

    Floyd says each Alaska fish sample, is made up of multiple flesh samples from various species including halibut, pollock, sable fish and salmon, including Copper River and Bristol Bay stocks. The samples were sent to an F.D.A. testing lab in Massachusetts in March, the first time Alaska fish has been submitted for testing.

    Floyd says results from Fukushima radiation testing of Alaska fish are expected back from the FDA in late April.

    http://www.alaskapublic.org/2014/04/01/fda-adds-alaska-salmon-testing-to-radiation-monitoring-program/


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  • Sharpie

    Why are the interviews on archive.org? Always a red flag that somebody's been censoring.


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  • rogerthat

    From the documents, NISA instruction to Tepco:

    ''TEPCO should report to NISA the situation of storing and treatment of the contaminated water
    in the Power Station and future forecast based upon the current situation have to be reported to NISA as soon as the treatment facility starts its operation. Also, subsequently, continued report has to be submitted to NISA once a week until the treatment of the accumulated water in the Central Radioactive Waste Treatment Facility is completed.''

    This is what Fuku 1 has become, a giant water treatment and storage plant. From this, one assumes Tepco will be reporting to NISA once a week for a very long time because they seem unable to get the water treatment plant to work and so highly radioactive water will continue to accumulate in the Central Waste Treatment facility. They will need more tanks. They are likely to run out of land and will have to buy more land to build more tanks on.
    Even if they ever get the water treatment plant to work, they will have to keep it running forever because the plant will produce hundreds of tons of highly contaminated water every day forever, and they will need to partly clean that water to be able to release it into the pacific ocean instead of building more and more tanks to store it, forever.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    JUST A MATTER OF TIME . . .

    Waiting to see what type cancer we're all getting, thanks to nuclear.


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  • tsfw tsfw

    Sorry to be off topic but someone yesterday posted a link about Gen Pets. I just had the time to go through the site more thoroughly and check out the FAQ section, it's even creepier than I thought.

    "Do Genpets feel pain?
    Yes. However the Genpets have limited vocal chords so they will not create a large amount of noise when disturbed."

    WTFFF!

    http://www.genpets.com/faq.php#7

    Again, playing around with science in ways we shouldn't. Will they never learn?


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  • tsfw tsfw

    Just a thought – seems like a very elaborate and costly art exhibit. I could see them using this venue as a test to gauge how the public receives it.

    I don't what to think anymore, this world is so weird.


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  • I wrote this article to explain WIPP accident in laymans terms.

    What they are storing down there is Plutonium and similar. And 1 quart if strong enough to contaminate 1 Billion chickens. And they have 20,000 barrel of that high level waste down there.

    And 480,000 barrel of other nuke waste. But don't worry….its all safe. <sarc>

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/03/wipp-nuclear-disaster-in-2014-in-new.html


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  • zogerke zogerke

    lets stay away from genpets and on the nuke topic. i get off topic too sometimes. too much. we know we hate it. we know we are glad it is not real. done.


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  • Folks, you can view the WIPP townhall meeting from last Thursday here

    http://new.livestream.com/rrv/WIPPtownhall4

    And there is another one next Thursday the 10th. You can sign up and type in comments and they will read them to the panel.

    Easy to do. You may wish to sign up with a new free hushmail email, especially if you live in the area, to minimize chance of retaliation for speaking the truth. The last guy who spoke truth to power ending up freezing his ass in Siberia, know what I mean.


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  • rogerthat

    Huffington Post, 16 hours ago:
    Rising from Fukushima, Japan's nuclear future
    ''At a discussion on post-Fukushima energy policy of Japan and the role of nuclear power at Columbia University, former International Energy Agency executive director Nobuo Tanaka outlined Japan's journey back to nuclear power and its potential to become the world leader on new nuclear technology. Tanaka, a distinguished fellow of Columbia's Center for Global Energy Policy, explained that the nuclear accident in Fukushima was completely avoidable and attributed the root cause to human error.
    ''Important lessons have been learned, though. The Japanese have conducted a thorough safety review of their nuclear plants and are working closely with the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to help ensure world-class safety standards…
    ''Tanaka presented a few options that Japan is evaluating … (including) to restart at least 17 nuclear reactors…


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Many other Enenewers will join .. and give them some 'tag team'..


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  • rogerthat

    ..''.The boldest proposition was his challenge to Japan to partner with the United States and South Korea on developing and implementing new nuclear technology featured in Pandora's Promise, the award-winning documentary on leading environmentalists who have come to embrace nuclear power as a necessary part of our energy and climate future. The Integral Fast Reactor (IFR) and pyroprocessing represent revolutionary improvements in new nuclear generation.
    ''Tanaka noted that the IFR provides an inexhaustible supply of energy, contains inherent passive safety mechanisms, and offers a long-term waste management system. Compared to lead from batteries, which does not decay, or toxic emissions dumped into the biosphere, nuclear waste management is one the safest and most sensible approaches Tanaka argued.


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  • rogerthat

    Under the headline 'Lessons of Fukushima: Reactor Restarts are Unwise' an opinion piece in the Japan Times by Jeff Kingston today ends with this paragraph:
    ''(Kyle) Cleveland concludes that Japan’s nuclear reactors should not be restarted. As one American nuclear expert told him, “Without a qualitatively different regulatory system, and in light of how Japan/Tepco responded to this crisis, Japan has not earned the right to have nuclear energy. No critically minded and informed person can evaluate this disaster and look at how Japan has responded in the aftermath and have any confidence that Japan will use nuclear energy safely. And in the most seismically active country in the world, even if Japan had a robust regulatory structure and thoroughly integrated crisis protocols, nature conspires against the best-laid-plans of human institutions. And what Japan has is certainly not the best plan by any measure.”


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  • arclight2 arclight2

    repost
    http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/australian-nuclear-lobby-manipulates-the-internet-the-liberal-partys-nuclear-dreams-the-strange-case-of-dr-john-white-and-ignite/

    this explains monbiots attack on busby
    http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/the-cuban-twitter-scam-is-a-drop-in-the-internet-propaganda-bucket/

    HAve you seen where Alps has gone anyone? bloody waste of time and money..

    http://nuclear-news.net/2014/04/05/adieu-free-speech-in-nuclear-france-areva-rules/

    In line with Japans secrecy laws and the Trans Pacific treaty and trans atlantic treaties coopyright laws (know you can see whu they NEED copyright laws and how they are getting around the opposition)

    http://nuclear-news.net/2014/03/09/the-uk-follows-japan-in-determining-extent-of-nuclear-transparency-by-extending-secrecy-and-protecting-corruption/

    qiuck mispelling so you know its me :)
    and this is the tip of the iceburg – ref Glen greenwald and friends

    sorry about the multi link admin but they are a natural (not that i ususally gamble)

    peace to all the enenewsers and keep the faith.. we are winning imo

    just have to bust decommissioning by melting in nitric acid (causes NO2 pollution)

    downwind from la hague and sellafield and we get this data to get the ball rolling….

    http://nuclear-news.net/2013/04/28/supreme-court-hears-our-case-on-uks-illegal-air-pollution/
    wonder where all the nitrogen is coming from?

    peace


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    .. :) For sure~!

    No one should be allowed to have Nuclear Power Generation Plants anywhere on this Earth!

    This is a failed Technology! :(


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  • Nick

    I had a vision of what is going on at Fukushima last night during a series of tortured dreams.

    I saw the cracks ripping the ground across the complex. Into those cracks, melted corium was flowing.

    The very earth itself has been raped by the nuclear horror.

    I awoke with a snort and could only shake my head in utter disgust.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi Nick

      Quote: cracks ripping the ground across the complex. Into those cracks, melted corium was flowing.

      Hmmm..Sounds about right..

      It wasn't a nightmare, it's true we are living in a Nuclear Fall Out Horror, and it's all around us far and wide.


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