Published: July 19th, 2011 at 10:45 pm ET
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Ex Japanese Nuclear Regulator Blames Radioactive Animal Feed on “Black Rain”, Fairewinds Associates, July 19, 2011:
While many radioactive cattle have been discovered large distances from Fukushima, what is more important is where their feed is coming from. “It’s not only about the radioactive cattle in Fukushima Prefecture; its also about the radioactive straw the cattle eat that was grown elsewhere”. Straw found 45 miles [now almost 100 miles] from Fukushima is highly contaminated with radioactive cesium, which is an indication that radiation has contaminated large portions of Northern Japan. More than half a million disintegrations per second in a kilogram of straw are comparable to Chernobyl levels. This proves that the American Nuclear Regulatory Commission was correct when it told Americans to evacuate beyond 50 miles and that the Japanese should have done the same. An Ex-Secretariat of Japan’s Nuclear Safety Commission blames this contamination on “Black Rain”. [...]
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Shame on thier so called leaders ! Japan is Toast !
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We saw the affects of “BLACK RAIN” in Canada testerday on this video !
http://enenews.com/video-1-68-%c2%b5svhr-detected-in-canadian-rain-water-sample-geiger-counter-display-reads-dangerous-radiation-background
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We here in the CA desert cities hope we have avoided the effects of the Japanese, Hawaiian and u.s. Northwest Hi Rain radiation, and have decided to evacuate to, flee to, and stay in, our current zero rain locations.
I would not continue my 20 mile/day CA desert road bike rides if the ride involved going thru wet and heavily irradiated water drainage areas that saturated my tires and the back of my biking jersey, shorts and helmet.
I consider my daily no-precip ‘dry’ desert rides healthy and ‘clean’ – except for the inhalation of the postulated ‘hot particles’.
Hoping Noah will soon come forth with the athlete’s nose respirator; outdoor exercise won’t be the same, or safe, without it.
Bothers me very much that giving up my 20 years of smoking and undetaking in retun 25 years of 20-30 mile/day roadbiking, may be backfiring, with deadly consequences to
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Check this out
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20_22.html
Is the U.S. actually going to test more nuclear bombs ??
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Thank you Cindy! I am quoting from the article you posted:
“A-bomb survivors criticize US tests
“Atomic bomb survivors’ groups in Hiroshima and Nagasaki have lodged protests against the United States for conducting subcritical nuclear tests.
“In Hiroshima, Sunao Tsuboi, head of the Japan Confederation of Atomic and Hydrogen Bomb Sufferers Organizations, said while the tests are not accompanied by nuclear explosions, they are definitely designed to produce lethal weapons.
“He added that if the US believes the tests are justifiable, it should announce them forthrightly, but it appears uneasy instead.
“He said the group will file a strong protest against the tests, hoping to make slow but steady progress toward the abolition of nuclear weapons.
“The head of an atomic bomb survivor’s group in Nagasaki, Sumiteru Taniguchi, said that they were betrayed by US President Barack Obama despite their expectations for the president.
“He said the US government appeared to have delayed announcing the tests to avoid criticism and that subcritical tests are in defiance of the international community.
Wednesday, July 20, 2011 15:07 +0900 (JST)
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Subcritical tests…
Better than high in the sky full blown Hydrogen monsters unleashed in the past.
Horishima Survivors “shocked” the US is maintaining and devoloping it’s nuclear arsenal?
Pa-lease! If anyone should know better…
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Yes it is on a downward spiral…a slow and painful decline /depopulation….effects that will last at least a mellenia, some like isotpes of Pu will last at least 25 millenia…
A very sad way to look at things, but also very realistic.
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the case history and its link (at the bottom) are my responce to your point, we have advance warning this time because of chernobyl too! the other stuff is looking at how cuba approached chernobyl, quite amazing…no shareholders i suppose?
Haiti with Radiation Sickness and Burns: Why We Must Disarm
“If we wish never to see a “nuclear Haiti,” nuclear abolition must happen and it is up to all of us to maintain the pressure on our leadership until it does.”
January 27, 2010
“If you want to know what the aftermath of a nuclear attack might look like, go to Haiti today. Then picture those same hundreds of thousands — and possibly several million — of already suffering people also enduring radiation sickness and severe burns. ‘No thanks’, I hear you say, ‘it’s bad enough already’.” I couldn’t find any thing about contamination in Haiti and cuba seems to be keeping quite. Any Spanish speakers in the house… all I could find was hugo chavez getting cancer treatment in cuba? Heres the link anyway!
http://www.alternet.org/world/145462/imagine_haiti_with_radiation_sickness_and_burns:_why_we_must_disarm
thought it respectful to put this in
Life in rural Haiti
Goodbye, world
Why even Port-au-Prince seems a better place to be
Mar 17th 2011 | DEOMOUN | from the print edition
“Families eke out a living by growing what food they can and by fishing. But every year there are fewer fish. Trees on the surrounding hills, as everywhere in Haiti, have been chopped down for charcoal. When it rains hard, landslides sweep topsoil down to the sea. This pushes fish farther out, beyond the range of the fishermen’s modest boats. There they may be scooped up illegally by richer fishermen, with bigger boats, from the neighbouring Dominican Republic. Haiti lacks coastguards to stop them.
Each year environmental degradation makes life a little harder for the people of Deomoun. Irregular rainfall and loss of topsoil means that the land produces less than before. So, over the years, more and more men have taken up fishing. To try and maintain their catch, more fishermen use nets with a finer mesh. As more smaller, younger fish get caught, there are even fewer fish than before.
The Haitian government is as good as absent from people’s lives in Deomoun, and foreign aid agencies rarely show up. Caught in such a slow, relentless downward spiral, it becomes easier to understand why so many Haitians from the countryside would rather try their luck in the slums of Port-au-Prince.”
http://www.economist.com/node/18390094
Nov, 1994
Chernobyl children in Cuba – radiation victims are treated
by Alex Tehrani
“The Chernobyl children receive priority treatment, and in the face of dire shortages, there is some controversy among Cubans about sustaining the Tarara project.
“Of course it is a positive gesture,” a Cuban friend told me. “But why does this hospital work and the hospitals for Cubans don’t? At a time when a Cubans cannot find aspirin in the pharmacy, it’s difficult to justify.”
Others, who support the project, sidestep the intense deterioration of Cuba’s economy. “Those of us who understand the importance of this revolution, understand that international solidarity is one of its fundamental values,” one woman told me. “If we are capable of providing for somebody in need, it’s our duty. Right now, we do not have very much food in Cuba, but that doesn’t mean that we can ignore the children that have been the victims of such a tragedy as Chernobyl.”
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1295/is_n11_v58/ai_15890043/
A 2003 picture (still kept it goimg then? Mighty impressive!) Here’s the picture
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/31465579`
oh and a case history…
“Anna Vasilenko came from Ukraine with her daughter Anna 14 months ago. “Anna has a difficult case of cerebral paralysis,” her mother says. “We had to go through numerous complicated surgeries to cure hypertension and spasticity. Since our arrival many things have changed. Anna began to walk; even though special equipment helps her to move her legs, it is already a triumphant accomplishment for us. We were provided with a special machine on huge wheels to work on her gross motor skills and build muscles. Cuban doctors found Anna’s hidden allergy to farinaceous foods and dairy products. As a result of a strict diet and intensive therapies, Anna’s speech has improved; moreover, besides Ukrainian language, Anna understands and even started speaking a little Spanish”, – tells me Anna’s mother with tears in her eyes.
Every mother dreams that her child will find their place in life- that he or she will be happy, successful, and healthy. We give children our all: power, soul, experience, love, and care. Reality brings the parents of the kids “with special needs” to another world – a world of hope and possibilities – a world unknown to them before. “We dream that our child will learn how to eat or drink by himself or herself, and express his or her simplest needs. When the parent of a sick child realizes and accepts the fact that his kid has “special needs”, the struggle for his survival and place in this life begins. This struggle is life-long. Each new skill, each small improvement, each baby step forward requires daily laborious work … And at the same time it’s very important to learn not to think about the worst thing- what will happen to these children when their parents pass away?..” – continues Anna’s mom…”
http://www.helpcubanow.com/chernobul.html
please remember readers that there are 5 MILLION people living in the contamination zone after Chernobyl!! And it may mean a similar type of figure for japan…. Only a reported ten percent of children out of these 5 million are considered fully healthy!! My general point is these Chernobyl children need to be regularly taken out of their contaminated environment… is some one checking contamination levels around this area….i think the Cuban travel industry unlikely to release any bad news. Any chance someone hear has any links or info on this..peace
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Hi arclight,
I saw an interview with Mafia turncoat Francesco Fonti. He ws responsable for the dumping of nuclear waste on the beaches of Haiti (which was officially declared as non-poisonous industrial waste of whatever kind). He said that he saw the Haitian workers unload the ship without any protection or care.
He saw people dying from radiation sickness, hair and teeth falling out.
All for the money.
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thats shocking, now you mention it i was aware of that interview but forgot it was haiti he dumped it in as well! thanks!
Italians Search for Radioactive Waste Sunk by Mafia
Friday Oct 23rd, 2009 5:06 PM
“The exploration by the Mare Oceano is the latest stage of an ongoing scandal. Prosecutors suspect ‘ndrangheta may have played a role in the suspicious disappearance of ships. For years investigations were hampered by a lack of evidence and the fact the ships’ crews were never found. Then, five years ago, former ‘ndrangheta member Fonti admitted his involvement in dumping the waste in a statement to police. Fonti told investigators he knows of more than 30 vessals sunk by the mafia.”
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/10/23/18626502.php
and I don’t like thorium so I will put this in
“The Marco Polo, which sank in the Straits of Sicily between Calabria and Sicily, was carrying a cargo of containers, some of which were found in 1994 along the coast of Campania, the region to the north of Calabria. Scientists found increased levels of radioactive thorium 234 in environmental samples. Presumably the ship was carrying radioactive waste when it sank. The Koraline sank near Ustica, a small island, 53 kilometres north of Capo Gallo, Sicily. Its containers were highly contaminated with thorium.”
http://ruscombegreen.blogspot.com/2010/01/guest-blog-radioactive-shipwrecks-in.html
and for the bigger picture this links a must!! Just this one organisation moved 3000 tons of illegal waste a day!!! How much ended up in Haiti I wonder…the mafia never forgave cuba and as it downstream from Haiti, why not!! Or from the original Italian “perché non eseguire il dump dei rifiuti nucleari lì! hahaha!”
food for thought maybe! peace
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forgot the link to support the 3000 tons a day
http://www.greenpeace.org/italy/Global/italy/report/2010/inquinamento/Report-The-toxic-ship.pdf
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BLACK RAIN. OMG.
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Thank you uncle Arnie … sends me chills when he says he is concerned about Tokyo ! brrrrrrrrr
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nukklear wasteland.
such a pathetic, wholesale mess.
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A quick one … just got a tweet from a Japanese saying “I just bought a potato. I removed the label that states it is from Nagazaki ….only to find another label underneath “from Chiba” … we will eat ourselves to death!
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In a nutshell !
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Moon our friend writes:
>we will eat ourselves to death!
As well as the water. I wouldn’t believe anything the government tells you about Tokyo metroplex water. The lies are going to get bigger and the toxins in the water are going to intensify. Bottled water is going to be precious and expensive very soon in Tokyo and indeed in the entire island.
But unfortunately, you can’t buy bottled air and they don’t have any idea how they could begin to de-toxify the dead zones to move people back in “soon”. That is a Kan ploy to keep his paychecks coming. I am hopeful one day the people of Japan will have enough of his apologies and replace him with someone who won’t lie to your face.
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I can not see many surviving this atrocity not even in Tokyo !
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Sickputer … you are right about the water and the winter from the fall. There is a constant pattern in Japan with winds. By end of September, winds from the north will blow straight down Tokyo. There is no escaping it! I am very well aware the water situation as well.
1 they have raised “unknowingly to the public” the levels of safe limits in water. So whenever they say it is safe, it means safe with their set limits. Meaning not safe !! lol
2. They only check for Iodine 131, 134 and Cesium 137. Needless to say, I never drink tap water (ever), take quick showers and even use bottled water for my coffee and brushing my teeth !
Now that might be silly … but … it is not silly.
I am so getting out of this freaking country. They are all crazy. Trying to warn as many friends as possible … but most ain’t listening ! Some have bought plane tickets already though ! So, happy bout that!
The rain is pouring here in Tokyo. Even if it is not “black rain”, I will ahve none of that !
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I meant “winds in fall” … so French of me! lol
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Bottled water is just tap water most of the time. You have no idea if the label is accurate. You’re also ingesting dioxin from the plastic bottle every time you drink.
They have got you, coming and going.
Moonkai, I hope you can get out soon.
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Black Rain fell at Hiroshima. If a Japanese person uses this term, it is very serious.
Thank you, Mr. Gundersen, though the truth gets harder and harder to bear.
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As we know from enenews the straw came from 150 km away and the number of affected cows is well over 600 sent to market and they have lost track of their distribution to consumers.
I like Arnie, but despite his long history of nuclear plants I don’t get the feeling he has any inside scoop about how the reactor cores are behaving at reactors 1, 2, and 3.
Notice he doesn’t mention melt-out although it was widely reported over a week ago by Japanese onsite scientists. Arnie thinks the corium is going to stick on the containment slab. What basis does he have for this conjecture? Others might argue that concrete is less likely to stop the migration than the six-inch thick containment vessel.
I also don’t know how he can say the air releases are so small compared to the bigger releases in March. We have had 120 days of these “smaller” releases and they don’t look like they have been too small to me.
Longtime forum members remember the frightful day on a Friday in late June when for the first time we saw the site buildings completely obliterated in the daytime from radioactive vapor. That was a scary day for me as I felt the Northern Hemisphere (much less Japan) was totally doomed. Not much since has changed my mind since I still see the releases from Reactors 3 and 4 that Arnie calls “small”. I don’t think so.
BTW moon…the winds are sweeping down on Tokyo for the next three days from Fukushima. The predicted speeds have been lowered from mid 20s to 10-15, but it is the beginning of the end of the divine winds that have favored Tokyo quite well so far. Things will get far worse for Tokyo in the next two months unless they can pull off a miracle at Fukushima Daiichi stopping the emissions.
http://www.weather-forecast.com/locations/Tokyo/forecasts/latest
If there is ever a time to hang inside for a few days this could be it. Cyclonic winds counterclockwise have shook the bottle of Japan severely and the contents are going to get redistributed. Take care!
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radioactive vapor is the steam rising from the wreckage of the 3 meltdowns !
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As long as wind blows it to America, everything is OK and happy in Japan. I noticed for the past four months, that each time the winds switch toward Tokyo, we get another round of admissions from the JapGov.
I wonder what they will admit now.
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Yes Indeed I second your post TraderGreg!
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If we allow Arnie’s best case scenario (95 percent of releases so far occurred in first 6 weeks) then taking 4 months minus 6 weeks for 5 percent gives 10 weeks for 5 percent, this equates to about 4 years for 100 percent.
In other words, best case scenario – unless they can halt the releases – is double the current release amount in just under 4 years from now.
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Steven,
Arnie said 95 percent has already been released in the first 6 weeks? I’m sorry, this is confusing, could you please elaborate?
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He was apparently referring to the percentage breakdown of the total amount released so far i.e. 95 percent of total release thus far was released in first six weeks.
As far as I know nobody has ventured what the TOTAL release might be in terms of ‘terrorbaquerels’ or whatever (worst case scenario over time) or for that matter the percentage of that figure (whatever it is) so far released. Arnie did mention earlier that the worst case scenario postulated by the IAEA before this incident was 1 percent core loss in one reactor. Unless they’ve found them I think we still have 100 percent X 3 core losses, and another core + a bunch of spent fuel rod assemblies swaying in the breeze, and periodically boiling off enough water to look like potentially catching fire (again).
For what it’s worth my take on the above, which also answers several other questions like ‘how come the radioactivity spread to the southern hemisphere so quickly’ and ‘how come the radioactivity is so bad in areas far from Fukushima’ is this: the expectations prior to asking these questions were based on early TEPCO estimates of no meltdowns, low level releases and hydrogen explosions.
So your question is a good one; basically, 95% (now 100%) of what? A considerable amount more than the 1 percent of core loss in the IAEA ‘worst case scenario’ I’m guessing. At Three Mile Island they didn’t find out (the percentage of core loss) until years after the event, and this will probably be the case here.
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Thanks, Steven, that is very helpful.
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Sickputer
I have to agree with you. I really like Arnie’s videos and appreciate them very much.
However, I agree that the status of 1 and 2 is purely speculative and I don’t think anyone knows for sure what to expect except for the people who have the data, and they aren’t speaking.
Furthermore, I’m in agreement with you about those radiation levels. I look at radnet everyday. I know the EPA lies, but there seems to be a pattern and they published in June very high radiation levels that have reached 2/3 of early April posted highs.
Our high in Az was supposedly 300 beta. We had 190 beta published on radnet in June before the jet stream moved north.
When unit #3 or perhaps it is spent fuel pool 4 gets going, we get high level readings in cities under the jet stream until EPA decides they are too high to report and then posts “under review” until they drop.
No one knows what is going to happen with 3. I gather the nitrogen injections keep failing…?
Read EX-SKF’s great post about the sleight of hand evident in Tepco recent report that plant emissions at the end of June were “only” 1 million becq per hour
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/1-billion-becquerels-per-hour-emission.html
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Incidentally, they’ve known about hot particles, mutations and deaths from radiation since 1955:
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, June 1955:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=9wgAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA213&lpg=PA213&dq=most+radiation+falls+rain&source=bl&ots=qZ1GTuA_ki&sig=iKeGTGt0hC0tNuCWpWrZy_8VT2M&hl=en&ei=T04mTruEBZHRiAKg2tToCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CFQQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=most%20radiation%20falls%20rain&f=false
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Yeah…good stuff…but the nuclear shills seem to be from another planet. Check out my Comments in reply to one here in a Hawaii paper:
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/Typhoon_Ma-on_approaches_Japant_may__miss_Fukushima.html
Just in case they ban me like Huffington Post (what an honor! Thanks you sleazy rag!) here is my comment to the nuclear plant defender:
Nuclear plant shill typed these lying pixels of light:
>not a single person has died as a result of Fukushima …
SP:
Except for the poor tortured souls who committed suicide. And the longterm effects from toxins will play out over generations. Yes, you nuclear plant defenders always pull out the directly attributable death card. So where do you think they should store the massive radioactive waste anyway? Just keep piling up that “safe” nuclear plant byproducts so it will catch fire and burn for years (like reactor 4 spent fuel pond at Fukushima Daiichi). You better wake up and get educated…those spent fuel rods are still burning and streaming your way in the prevailing winds!
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Sickputer … you are right and I am very well aware of that. I will out by then. Trying to warn as many friends as possible … but they ain’t listening ! This is a real nightmare … and I am getting sick of it ! On my way out!
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nice comment! thought id point out about the change of direction of the wind in august too! lol
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first issue after einsteins death?
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It is way past time to impliment an operation plowshare on these constantly Belching Cancer and Death Ex-Nuclear Powerplants and bury them for good! Japan can not or will not do it, and it NEEDS TO BE DONE!
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Strong typhoon hits Shikoku, brings heavy winds, rain to western Japan
TOKYO (Kyodo) — A large and powerful typhoon was heading north Tuesday, lashing Shikoku Island and parts of the Kinki region in western Japan with strong winds of over 90 kilometers per hour, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.
At around 12:30 a.m. Wednesday, the typhoon hit the southern part of Tokushima Prefecture on Shikoku — the first typhoon landfall in Japan this year and the first in July in four years, the agency said.
Torrential rain and strong winds due to the typhoon have injured
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110720p2g00m0dm001000c.html
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>It is way past time to implement an operation plowshare
It will never happen because then the nuclear industry loses face and admits they can’t contain the plant disaster. They would rather it smoke for ten years hidden behind a Rube Goldberg linen filtering system than take such a dramatic step of pushing the plant debris to the sea. That ship of an idea never sailed, much less left the harbour despite a few proponents who felt it might have have merit myself included.
Now I still prefer the Chernobyl bombing with boron and slurry mix and then the concrete domes. Sure there is danger in that method also, but what ultimately are they going to realize anyway? That Tepco allows it all to burn out in Arnies “small” releases?
The problem is Tepco is so driven by the desire to save money and they have such a grip over the Japanese government that the decision-making system is totally inconsistent with humanitarian reason. It’s the love of yen versus the need for a concrete pen!
And in this case of a huge multi-reactor plant we know it will require multiple concrete tombs. Tepco has crunched the numbers and knows it will take about 5-10 billion US dollars for the domes. Add in compensation to displaced residents and cleanup of contaminated land and the cost will soar so much their iPads can’t even compute that high. That’s why they can’t allow 350,000 Fukushima residents to leave despite radiation levels that are deadly over time. The pocketbook is getting bare for Tepco and their physical assets outside Fukushima Daiichi are not looking so robust either.
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“Small” is in comparison to the expolsions in the week(s) after the Tsunami.
Arnie is trying to remain “balanced”, it’s how he survives as a “whistleblower”…I would niether knock him, nor defend him, Just MHO.
I am also skeptical of the tents to condense /capture the steam…certainly not as good as a concrete shell from above and below like the Soviets did…
What bugs me is that reactor one will only be covered by September….
then how long will it take to cover #2 ?
Then # 3…????
With a glorified tent??? C’mon! If this was WWII I betcha P.M./ Marshal Tojo and Emp. Herahito would have had the job done by now. :~0
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They are reposting all over the world the “stablized situation” at Fukushima article. Here is another one from Richmon, Virginia:
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2011/jul/20/tdmain04-japans-crippled-nuclear-plant-stabilized-ar-1183353/
My comment there (probably will be wiped out by the morning)
Stabilized? Not hardly. The dangers are seen every day at Fukushima Daiichi with black radioactive steam rising from the spent fuel pond at reactor 4 which can’t be cooled because of massive building and heat exchanger pipe damage, and the steam from three melt-downs, three melt-throughs, and three melt-out reactors at Units 1,2, and 3 (yes, all Japanese scientist terminology for those nuclear blobs). To say the Daiichi complex is stable is wishful thinking. The only reason building temperatures have declined is because the cores have completely exited the containment vessels, which was contrary to NRC’s longheld mistaken beliefs about how melt-downs would behave. They are two steps past a meltdown and the Areva water decontamination process is not faring well. So I’d have to say it is not stable.
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Got in the same reply at the Boston Globe…
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2011/07/20/japans_crippled_nuclear_plant_reaches_stability/?comments=all
Official mainstream news can seem like God’s voice to the casual reader so maybe I will plant a seed of doubt to the few people who read my rebuttal. We can build an army of peaceful resistance one person at a time. Being silent means somewhere down the line we will all be fighting cannibals in a post-apocalyptic world.
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I gave you a star! Maybe if there are enough, the editors will not take it out. Wishful thinking…
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Well done Sickputer,
provide the pro-nukers with the full horror! We just can’t let them get away with it.
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2 stars already…
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I recommended your first comment which is still on their site. Great comment! Lets hope it wakes a few people up.
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Ok, I hit the boston globe with a comment, not duplicating any of what you said, but adding some stuff. Not sure if that was helpful or not, since short is better than long. But at least it was an attempt to hit it hard. Hopefully someone will wake up, and hopefully it saves at least a few lives, or at least a few people their health, or brings us closer to ending Nuke power.
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I wanted to recommend your comment, but it says “0 comments”…..
Nothing to be seen here! Wipe out what you don’t want to read!
America is strange…lol
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I’ve had my comment eliminated from CNN but they forgot to eliminate the comment in reply to mine.
So, the person who replied served as evidence that my comment had been wiped.
I posted a reply to the reply (!) pointing this out and I think it is up there still.
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Worse–the Wall street journal yesterday in the print version described the fukushima mega-disaster as “a partial meltdown” and I QUOTE directly.
Fricking outrageous!!!!
Article: Power, Stephen & Smith, Rebecca (2011, July 18). Nuclear plant safety proposals put on fast track. The Wall Street Journal, p. A3.
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Richmond times have already wiped out all comments. I just went in there to look and there are none. That was a superb comment though. Well done!
I shoved this comment in there….
Stable? The reason the reactor chambers are not too hot is because the fuel melted right through them some time ago. According to the Japanese government it is a “melt through” not just a “melt down” as this article stated. The cores of reactors 1, 2 and 3 have dropped out of the pressure vessels and are melting through the concrete in the basement. Hence the pressure vessels have “stabilized” as you put it. The reactors and fuel pools, as you admit in this article, are still spewing radioactive gas into the air, that gas breaks down into radioactive fallout particles, such as strontium, and comes down around the globe in rain. Tragically the situation is far from stable, and this story continues one recurring theme of this whole disaster, there has been a massive effort to downplay the problem, to the point where poor japanese citizens who should have evacuated their homes, have stayed put, and been heavily irradiated.
How serious is that do you think? Well, Christopher Busby, a professor of Biomedical Sciences at the University of Ulster recently spoke in Japan. He noted that on average those living within 200km of Chernobyl suffered a 10 year reduction in lifespan. Other things got people before cancer. Heart disease, lung disease, you name it, radiation causes it. In that sense the cancer issue is a side track. Think about what that means for Japan, when Fukushima has vastly larger amounts of fuel than Chernobyl, and has gone on for months, not weeks.
Now consider that fallout from Japan just a week ago was found to be producing dangerous levels of radiation in some Canadian Rain water, and hopefully you can see how misleading it is to say that this situation is “stable” as if the problem has gone away.
Note also the the Japanese recently did a promotional tour for Americans to drink more Japanese green tea, even at a time when the French have banned it because they found it to be dangerously contaminated! To give you an idea of how “seriously” the Japanese government takes food safety, there was a serious proposal to have their government buy contaminated fish that fishermen had trouble selling, tin it up, and send it as food aid to Africa!
This disaster will cost many more lives and many more people their health yet, all around the globe, through fallout, and through contaminated food. The emissions are still going up 24 hours a day, and some of that comes down on the USA. Sadly, misleading articles like this one will cost many more people their lives when they could have taken reasonable precautions to protect themselves.
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Very well said comment fallout man.
think i gotta sleep now…
best to you all
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Thanks Majia, hope you get a great night’s sleep, and bless you.
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Thank you. Can you point me in the direction of reasonable precautions I can do to protect myself?
Seems like we need a repository for these things. There must be quite a few, right?
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“Thank you. Can you point me in the direction of reasonable precautions I can do to protect myself?”
Sure. Don’t eat any fruits, vegetables, mushrooms, beef, fish, or any meat. Don’t eat grains or legumes.
Don’t drink any water or drink that hasn’t been distilled and run through reverse osmosis. Your best bet at this time appears to be straight bourbon or other filtered and aged liquor.
Don’t breath any air that hasn’t gone through HEPA filtration or through an NBC gas mask.
Dress in a new disposable Tyvek suit every time you go outside.
Yes I’m kidding, it’s not so bad in the US right now, but I’d say to avoid going out in the rain without an umbrella even now, and start avoiding fish from the northern Pacific regions. For that matter still avoid fish from our Gulf, which I found in a dollar store, because toxins from the oil spill won’t go away soon either).
Pay attention to Uncle Arnie, I don’t believe he’s playing any balancing act or mincing words – he simply has more data and knowledge than any of us, and seems bent on portraying that accurately.
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It comes down to avoiding food from contaminated areas. Sadly, there will be food beyond Japan which is questionable.
Avoid JP food and that of surrounding nations since they may simply take Japanese product (cheap if its contaminated) and package it in say for example China or Thailand. I have heard that happens with fish.
Early on there were reports of radioactive iodine contaminated seaweed in Canada. That was pretty disappointing since people take iodine (often in the form of kelp tablets) to protect against rad iodine fallout. So really that takes kelp off the menu as well.
When you go out to a food hall or restaurant, its probably best to avoid Japanese food now. Make your own meals from the supermarket and you know where your food has come from.
I realize Americans will want to support America, but I now try to buy New Zealand and Australian food. Milk products are very susceptible to accumulating fallout, so I will only buy New Zealand Cheese and butter now. I always buy NZ meat anyway. Of course when you go to a restaurant or go visiting people, its often just luck as to what you get.
you can ask where a restaurants food is sourced from. I’ve done that and just politely left when all the food comes from Japan.
Better to be safe now and have no concerns later. Sadly, the whole northern hemisphere has problems, the USA has been hit hard due to the Jet Stream taking fallout from Japan.
I’m in NZ so its easy here. I avoid nthn hemisphere Silver beet, blue berries, mushrooms, prunes (all high surface area) milk products (cows eat a lot of grass – hi surface area). Those are things that collect more fallout than most. New Zealand and Australian products are ok though.
For example, I won’t eat californian prunes now until this mess is over. I buy organic Australian prunes instead. I won’t eat mushrooms from anywhere now, they collect a lot of fallout. Famous for it.
Wild boar in Germany was very contaminated from Chernobyl. I…
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Could you repost at :
FORUM: Methods for combating radiation and its effects
Thanks very much.
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Sickputer. I did not know the winds are gonna sweep tokyo the next three days. Thank you very much for the info. I will warn my friends as well.
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@moonkai A good link for japan winds is
http://www.weather-report.jp/com/home/kishomap/fusoku/japan.html
It does not look good for Japan or Eastern Neighbors!
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thx …
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MEANWHILE…ConnectingDots’ car has mysteriously started having problems. Is the nuke industry behind this, perhaps?
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Black rain is code for full-on devastation. Anyone that still thinks that this will be isolated to Asia is in full on denial.
The water tables are GLOBAL. MOX fuel does not disintegrate. Rain,food, and wind will spread the poisons to every place on Earth.
Please help those that are scared get prepared. You cannot wage war with the government.
Go under and help who you can now. It’s already too late unless there is government confrontation in Japan.
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I eagerly await the next batter up.
ZP
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My letter to representatives with citations
http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/letter-on-fukushima-radiation-and-epa.html
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Superb Majia, concise, professional, well supported. That should make politicians think and its short enough that they should read it. I take it you have printed it off and mailed it to them? It would be interesting to hear what sort of response you get.
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One should never piss into the wind. You are wasting you time.
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Darth, well, it’s ACTION. And action is what we need! Good job, Majia.
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I haven’t been around for a while, just never liked that WordPress login thing.
A while back I made a Radiation treatment guide (for dummies) and a Shelter in Place guide which is a nice checklist….print it, buy it, box it up for your shelter or use it as a to go box, for when TSHTF.
Lots of good link here also, check it out.
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/p/japan-nuclear-information.html
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Excellent blog full of very helpful information.
by the way–I too recommend the Battle of/for Chernobyl
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Guys: “democracy” is a chimera when it comes to nuclear energy. They just wipe out any comment that goes against the main stream of propaganda!!! Can we call this “democracy”?
They stifle any “voice against” and endanger our health, just to please the “lords of nuke” and their HUGE greed.
I’m speechless at this all…
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[b]E . V. A C. U. A. T. E. [/b]
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Tacoma,
I heard this morning on the news that 14 Anonymous members were arrested by FBI??
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/04/22/fukushima-2000-atomic-bombs/
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Anonymous isnt a group lulz
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This is still…the best estimate.. IMHO.
PS..Anonymous is cool..I’m cooler…lol
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Arnie looks worried.
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Arnie is right to look worried.
Three cheers for Arnie, Chris Busby and Helen Caldicott!
Apropos – Helen Caldicott recently received a deserved international award
http//www.nuclear-free.com/eng/index.htm
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http://www.nuclear-free.com/eng/index.htm
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Arnie needs to man up a little and talk about what whistleblower Ann Harris has said!
“Basically the books are being cooked, people are saying things they are not doing, that they swear under oath they have been done and they just aren’t done.”
http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/19/nuclear-whistleblower-the-books-are-being-cooked-fukushima-in-american-will-happen/
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Another sugar-coated effort by …Arnie.
95% ?….95% of the nuclear material is gone?
Na..thats too high a rate for any explosion.
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I think his major purpose in this video was to give a double entender… When he states that the Japanese need to control the radiation, not the information, I immediately took it as a veiled notice to our own government to do the same thing. Maybe they will see it that way, but I don’t think it will work.
They don’t intend to tell us anything.
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I interpreted Mr. Gundersen’s remark to mean that the emissions from the reactor were strongest in the first six weeks, but have declined by 95% since then. But since we have no figures to work with, it doesn’t mean much.
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