FORUM: Alternative Energy — Converting to clean, renewable energy sources

Published: September 4th, 2015 at 12:01 am ET


To get things started, here are some links regarding the work of Stanford professor Dr. Mark Z. Jacobson

  1. A path to sustainable energy by 2030 (Scientific American, November 2009) (pdf).
  2. Providing all global energy with wind, water and solar power, Part I: Technologies, energy resources, quantities and areas of infrastructure, and materials (Energy Policy, 2011) (pdf-Part I)
  3. Providing all global energy with wind, water and solar power, Part II: Reliability, system and transmission costs, and policies (Energy Policy, 2011) (pdf-Part II)
  4. Spreadsheet accompanying Parts I and II (xls-Spreadsheet)
  5. Energy and Environmental Science article ranking energy solutions to global warming, air pollution, and energy security (link)
  6. Studies on matching hourly and peak demand by combining renewables (link)
  7. Studies on wind energy resources and transmission (link)
  8. April 20, 2012 Tri-Agency (NSF-NOAA-NASA) PI Meeting Presentation (pptx)
  9. November 14, 2011 HEAL Utah Presentation (pptx) (video)
  10. May 16, 2011 Seminar, Woods Institute for the Environment (video)
  11. February 4, 2011 Seminar, Cornell University (video)
  12. January 13, 2011 Stanford Grid Integration Workshop Presentation (pptx)
  13. TED/CNN debates on renewables versus nuclear (link)
  14. April 1, 2008 U.S. House of Representatives hearing. Rep. Jay Inslee tells Exxon-Mobil executive that the vision in the “Renewable Energy Solution to Global Warming” by the Atmosphere/Energy Program at Stanford University is “one that the United States really needs” (starting at 1:35:00 in hearing video) (video) (transcript)
  15. February 7, 2012 op-ed (invited), “Securing public health forever with clean energy” (link)

h/t chemfood, MaidenHeaven

Published: September 4th, 2015 at 12:01 am ET


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1,861 comments to FORUM: Alternative Energy — Converting to clean, renewable energy sources

  • Jebus Jebus

    Here's how every major automaker plans to go electric

    GM Is Going All Electric, Will Ditch Gas- and Diesel-Powered Cars

    It Doesn’t Matter How Much Trump, Pruitt, and America Love Gas Guzzlers – Cars are going electric.

    G.M. and Ford Lay Out Plans to Expand Electric Models

    GM: The future is all-electric

  • Jebus Jebus

    The future of a cleaner, cheaper power grid is batteries

    What the mainland can learn from Hawaii’s electricity solutions

    Unlike the diesel eyesore on the south side of the island, Kapaia project — a partnership between Tesla and KIUC (Kauaʻi Island Utility Cooperative) — is vast, 45 acres of solar panels situated among rolling green hills. Panels dip and rise with the contour of the land, feeding the energy of the sun to a 53MWh array of Tesla Powerpacks — white boxes filled with batteries. That's more than double that of Tesla's battery Powerpack project in California. Those storage units then release that power onto the island's grid at night. The project isn't spewing anything into the air, and other than birds and gusts of wind, it's quiet. The acres of solar panels don't completely fit into the landscape, but they aren't as intrusive as a diesel-burning power plant.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Duke Energy to Invest $6B for Solar, Batteries and EVs, Scrap Nuclear Plant Plans

    On Tuesday, Duke Energy Florida filed a revised settlement that lays out a four-year, nearly $6 billion investment into 700 megawatts of solar PV, 50 megawatts of energystorage 500 electric-vehicle chargers, and smart meters and grid modernization across the state.

    In exchange, Duke will shut down work on its Levy Nuclear Project — one of many planned nuclear power plant projects being canceled in the wake of the Westinghouse bankruptcy and broader industry disruption. And, in a turnaround from last week’s request for an 8.3 percent rate hike, the new plan would keep rates in line with inflation over the next four years.

    If GE and Westinghouse wanted to survive change, they would put their logo's on power packs too…

  • Jebus Jebus

    Tesla's big battery will change power and politics

    "You can essentially charge up the battery packs when you have excess power when the cost of production is very low … and then discharge it when the cost of power production is high, and this effectively lowers the average cost to the end customer. It’s a fundamental efficiency improvement for the grid."

    No wonder…

    • FaunaLord q

      A skeptic could say, "Hi there, see, if you ignore a bunch of the shit we do and ignore the fact that we're not doing anything new here but that also we need subsidies and lots of pr and also please here is for you the implant and you need ai because ai is bad and my is good and we conveniently use engineered disasters for effective pr and sell fancy cars and I may or may not be working for a tesla contractor or have some stakes as a shareholder and the pe ratio seems kinda out of whack considering what we're doing and our build quality ain't so great really but you know, a new government enforced incentive, especially when it is tied to military and we need for you also to have wifi 🙂 because last time I read some people in puerto rico didn't have wifi and i mean, when you're in venezuela the first thing you think of is "fuck, I don't have porn"

  • Jebus Jebus

    Who's shutting down?

    U.S. energy-storage capacity surged 46 percent in the third quarter, mainly due to a single big project in Texas, the biggest source of wind power.

    Power companies and developers added 41.8 megawatts of storage systems, including a 30-megawatt utility-scale project in Texas, according to a report Thursday from GTM Research and the Energy Storage Association. California added 8.4 megawatts of residential and commercial systems. The industry installed 28.6 megawatts in the third quarter of 2016.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Elon Musk’s SA battery record will be short-lived as rivals go even bigger – South Korea’s Hyundai Electric & Energy Systems is building a 150-megawatt lithium-ion unit, 50 per cent larger than Musk’s, that the company says will go live in about three months in Ulsan near the southeast coast. And then this plant will be passed by a larger one. And then it will happen again. I remember sometime in 2016 when I used to only retweet solar projects that were 100MW or larger – and I was amazed at the project sizes. Now, 1GW gets my attention. Soon – that’ll be with batteries too. When will we see the first 1GW announcement? 2018 maybe, 2019 definitely.

  • Jebus Jebus

    PepsiCo makes biggest public pre-order of Tesla Semis: 100 trucks

    About 260,000 heavy-duty Class-8 trucks are produced in North America annually, according to FTR, an industry economics research firm.

    Navistar International Corp (NAV.N) and Volkswagen AG’s Truck and Bus are working to launch an electric medium duty truck by late 2019, while rival Daimler AG has delivered the first of a smaller range of electric trucks to customers in New York.

    PepsiCo’s 100 trucks add to orders by more than a dozen companies such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT.N), fleet operator J.B. Hunt Transport Services Inc (JBHT.O), and food service distribution company Sysco Corp (SYY.N). Tesla has at least 285 truck reservations in hand, according to a Reuters tally.

  • Jebus Jebus

    It appears potential Model 3 demand may be underrated and some analysts may be underestimating just how popular the Model 3 is likely to become, not just in the U.S. but worldwide. The Model 3 car stand literally got mobbed at the LA auto show recently, and there are widespread reports that no other electric cars were generating anywhere near this amount of interest and excitement. Moreover, the Model 3 currently has over 450,000 reservations, and just may be the most highly anticipated car in history. In fact, the Model 3 is generating so much excitement and demand that numerous individuals are now buying other people’s reservation for as much as 300% markup value, just to leapfrog others waiting in line.

    Reservations would be much higher if consumers did not have to wait in line for over a year to get their Model 3 vehicles. When people want to buy an automobile most individuals want it that day, and are not willing to wait a prolonged time period to receive their car. Nevertheless, nearly half a million individuals have chosen to wait in line. Which brings us to the fact that demand would likely be much greater if consumers could just buy the Model 3 at their own convenience. Therefore, it is quite possible that Model 3 demand could eclipse 700,000 cars annually a few years from now, and Tesla is already making preparations on where it will construct these vehicles and bring them to the largest vehicle market in the world.

  • freebywill

    Rooftop Solar and EVs Save Water and Cut Pollution: Better Use of Data Will Optimize the Benefits

    By Beia Spiller

    A new paper by my colleagues and me, recently published in Energy Economics, attempts to answer these two questions for households in Austin, Texas. These homes are part of Pecan Street Inc., a living smart-grid laboratory with the largest customer energy-use database on the planet. Using detailed household-level data from 2013-2015, we were able to track solar panel performance and EV use and charging patterns, and match these actions to two important environmental impacts: water use and greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions.

    Our paper confirms that, in Texas, using residential solar panels consumes less water and pollutes the air less than using the central-grid power (based on its electricity sources during those years), and driving an EV instead of a gasoline vehicle generally reduces the household's water and emission footprint, even though EVs charge from the grid. Moreover, our analysis demonstrates how carefully examining energy-use data can help us make sure we're maximizing clean energy's benefits.

    The environmental impacts of green technologies in TX

    [ full paper, this is the future, decentralized generation, it's what the utils are working to stop. ]

  • freebywill

    World's Largest Solar-Wind-Storage Plant Planned for India

    A wind, solar and battery storage plant is being planned for the southeastern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh, which has faced power woes in recent months due to grid failure.

    The renewable energy facility will consist of 120 megawatts of solar, 40 megawatts of wind, 20-40 megawatt-hours of battery backup and will be spread over 1,000 acres in the district of Anantapur.

    According to CleanTechnica, such an installation will be the world's largest once commissioned.

    The estimated $155 million project was jointly developed by Solar Energy Corporation of India, the renewable energy agency of Andhra Pradesh, NREDCAP and Andhra Pradesh Transco.

    Significantly, the plant will receive funding through a loan from the World Bank, which announced this week that it would stop financing oil and gas projects to help the global shift to cleaner energy sources.

  • freebywill

    Tesla Unveils an Electric Rival to Semi Trucks

    By NEAL E. BOUDETTENOV. 16, 2017

    HAWTHORNE, Calif. — Tesla has aimed to reinvent the automobile and the way electricity is generated for homes. With those efforts still in progress, it is setting out on another quest: to remake the multibillion-dollar trucking industry.

    In an elaborately produced nighttime presentation by its chief executive, Elon Musk, Tesla on Thursday unveiled a prototype for a battery-powered, nearly self-driving semi truck that the company said would prove more efficient and less costly to operate than the diesel trucks that now haul goods across the country. And of course, it will emit no exhaust.

    In a surprise, Mr. Musk also showed he was not letting up on the car side of the business, unveiling a new Tesla Roadster that he said would be able to reach 60 miles per hour in 1.9 seconds and travel 620 miles before needing to recharge. He claimed it would be the first production car ever with a zero-to-60 time under two seconds.

  • Jebus Jebus

    This forum is the most enjoyable for those who care…

    BP, like other major European oil companies, is responding to pressure from investors and governments, especially in the region, to shift away from the traditional fossil fuels blamed for climate change, like oil and gas, and into cleaner sources of energy. Statoil, the Norwegian giant, for example, is staking out a big position in offshore wind, and Total, the French company, last year bought a battery maker called Saft for 950 million euros, or $1.1 billion.

    “The European majors feel under pressure to diversify, to get exposure to different technologies so they are not left out,” said Valentina Kretzschmar, an analyst at energy consultants Wood Mackenzie. “It is what a lot of their peer group is doing.”

    Indeed, renewables like solar and wind power are increasingly seen as not just a science experiment or a concession to political and environmental pressures, but a good business opportunity in their own right. Wood Mackenzie estimates that renewable energy products return between 7 percent and 10 percent on capital invested.

    It's reality…

  • Jebus Jebus

    Siemens Announces Production Of New Solar PV Inverters In India

    While the plans to start production of the new inverters would have been taken several months in advance, the announcement by Siemens came just weeks after the Indian government announced the plan to auction 77 gigawatts of solar power capacity by March 2020. According the plan announced by the Ministry of New & Renewable Energy,

    "an additional 3 gigawatts will be auctioned in December 2017, 3 gigawatts in January 2018, 5 gigawatts in February 2018, and 6 gigawatts in March 2018. A further 30 gigawatts each will be auctioned in FY2018-19 and FY2019-20. Thus a total of 77 gigawatts will be put on the block by 31 March 2020."

  • DUDe DUDe

    Transition To Wind & Solar Would Result In Small Indirect Greenhouse Gas Emissions

    December 15th, 2017 by Joshua S Hill

    A new study has found that wind and solar indirect lifecycle emissions are not only on the lower scale compared to other generation technologies, but would result in only minor indirect greenhouse gas emissions if a full decarbonization of the global electricity sector was achieved with these technologies.

    Many critics of renewable energy technologies such as wind and solar like to cast doubt on the overall impact of these technologies on the environment when the entire lifecycle is taken into account — from resources to construction to deconstruction. It is always worthwhile to acknowledge these possibilities, because the materials used to construct a wind turbine and the effort used to extract those materials have their own emissions, as does the construction process. Finally, what impact will the waste of these technologies have once their lifespans are up and they need to be destroyed or recycled?

    However, according to a new comprehensive study published this month by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research and published in the journal Nature Energy that analyzed the lifecycle of various energy generation technologies, wind and solar have a favorably low-greenhouse gas emissions level from their complete lifecycles, but that a full decarbonization of the global electricity sector using wind and solar technologies would “induce…

  • freebywill

    Chinese City to Become World's First to Switch Entire Bus Fleet to Electric

    The city of Shenzen, China is home to a staggering 16,000 buses. To compare, that's more buses than the five largest North American bus fleets combined (New York City, Los Angeles County, New Jersey Transit, Chicago and Toronto).

    Now, after a six-year effort to replace its diesel-fueled buses, the major Chinese city is well on its way to become the world's first city to electrify its entire public transit bus fleet.

    Shenzen has methodically electrified its buses in recent years to curb unhealthy air pollution and cut emissions. According to the United Nations' Climate Action program, in 2015 there were 3,600 electric buses on the city's roads. By 2016, the number increased to 9,000. By May 2017, the number reached 14,500. The remaining 1,500 buses will go emission-free before the end of the year.

    Shenzen, which has a population of 11.91 million, is also planning to switch its taxis to electric by 2020.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Solar will eventually win.

    Just a matter of when and if very many panels will still be needed…

    New technique allows rapid screening for new types of solar cells

    The worldwide quest by researchers to find better, more efficient materials for tomorrow’s solar panels is usually slow and painstaking. Researchers typically must produce lab samples — which are often composed of multiple layers of different materials bonded together — for extensive testing.

    Now, a team at MIT and other institutions has come up with a way to bypass such expensive and time-consuming fabrication and testing, allowing for a rapid screening of far more variations than would be practical through the traditional approach.

  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

    Someone will make bank on these charging stations. Some numbers seem weird, a charge would be $150+, then add $50-75 for road tax. States would want their 'sales tax'. 30 min fast charge. hummmm
    About the same cost for diesel, well, depending on a bunch of factors.

    I see an investment opportunity/scam dead ahead. 😆

  • freebywill

    Monthly renewable electricity generation surpasses nuclear for the first time since 1984

    December 27, 2017

    From December 18 through December 29, Today in Energy will feature a selection of our favorite articles from 2017. Today’s article was originally published on July 6.

    In March, and again in April, U.S. monthly electricity generation from utility-scale renewable sources exceeded nuclear generation for the first time since July 1984. This outcome reflects both seasonal and trend growth in renewable generation, as well as maintenance and refueling schedules for nuclear plants, which tend to undergo maintenance during spring and fall months, when overall electricity demand is lower than in summer or winter.

    [ nice charts ]

  • Jebus Jebus

    Tesla's enormous battery in Australia is responding to outages in record time

    It appears to be far exceeding expectations. In the last three weeks alone, the Hornsdale Power Reserve has smoothed out at least two major energy outages, responding even more quickly than the coal-fired backups that were supposed to provide emergency power.

    Tesla's battery last week kicked in just 0.14 seconds after one of Australia's biggest plants, the Loy Yang facility in the neighboring state of Victoria, suffered a sudden, unexplained drop in output, according to the International Business Times. The week before that, another failure at Loy Yang prompted the Hornsdale battery to respond in as little as four seconds — or less, according to some estimates — beating other plants to the punch. State officials have called the response time "a record," according to local media.

    • DUDe DUDe

      "kicked in just 0.14 seconds after"

      not bad at imaging if all that space occupied and destroyed forever by nuclear waste..wouldent it be better filled with working lithium battery's/solar whilest already working on the next cleaner technollogy..

      Reminds me..we really need to do something about coöperative power monopoly's influencing the speed at wich "we evolve so we can survive" , or after solar we get stuck with the dirty ones for a century more then needed or something , like we did with fossils..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Yes. But at what cost?

    Cobalt mining: Dark side of the electric car revolution
    Electric cars are causing a boom in cobalt mining, but most of the resource is mined in dangerous conditions in the DRC.
    Dec 24 2017

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose


    Child cobalt miners: Automakers pledge ethical minerals sourcing for EVs
    Nov 29 2017

    • Jebus Jebus

      Unless we can get a few billion to ride horses to work.

      Maybe just ban going to work.

      I'm gonna invest in rechargeable glow sticks…

    • DUDe DUDe

      Hi Heart..Slavery..childslavery..minimum wages..undereducation..all so a few can have too much of that and basically everything in return..many fights to fight everywhere..before everything is balanced out well..

      • DUDe DUDe

        Is there anything mined in africa that dont involve childslavery and even forced soldiers..maybe we should soldier up and force our coörporations that get rich over there to do things radically differently..instead of just single digit squeezing..

  • freebywill

    Electric Trucks Begin Reporting for Duty, Quietly and Without All the Fumes

    Replacing fleets of medium- and heavy-duty trucks can help cut greenhouse gas emissions and make cities quieter and cleaner.

    By Erica Gies, InsideClimate News
    Dec 18, 2017

    From Vancouver to New York, from Paris to Tokyo, that delivery truck outside your home—the rumbling motor, the belching fumes—may soon become much quieter and cleaner.

    Electric trucks are driving out of factories and into service, and multiple vehicle companies are gearing up to make them. The result could be a significant reduction in greenhouse gas emissions—especially if the deliveries turn out to be cheaper than old-fashioned diesel engines.

    In recent weeks, announcements of pending leases by United Parcel Service and advance orders for a newly introduced model from Tesla have signaled that big players are stepping into the market.

    [ local delivery first, charging station build-out and tech advances will lead to increased use. ]

  • DUDe DUDe

    'World's First Solar Highway' Opens in China for Testing

    But this special road—which China has hailed as the "world's first photovoltaic highway"—is designed to do a lot more than just harness the sun's rays for electricity and allow cars to get from A to B.

    The site also serves as a clean energy lab to test other technologies,

    including >>>wireless charging<<<

    for electric vehicles and providing internet connection.

    As intriguing as the project sounds, solar roads have been dismissed by critics as too expensive for practical use. China's road costs about $458 per square meter, which is much more expensive than, say, traditional asphalt.

  • freebywill

    Fayetteville Becomes 54th US City to Make 100% Renewable Energy Pledge

    by Andrea Germanos, staff writer

    Taking a "tremendous step forward," the city of Fayetteville, Arkansas on Tuesday overwhelmingly voted to transition toward 100 percent clean energy.

    "Going renewable is the right thing to do—and now is the right time to do it."

    The Sierra Club says it's the first city in the state to take such an action, and the 54th city to do so in the nation.

    The commitment is laid out in the Fayetteville's Energy Action Plan, which the city council passed 7-1. That greenhouse gas-slashing plan aims to be "the groundwork for a thriving, beautiful community for generations to come."

    To meet that task, the plan focuses on four sectors: reducing overall energy use, diverting waste from landfills, shifting toward clean energy production, and reducing transportation-related emissions.

    Among the specific goals the city lays out are to achieve

    100 percent local government clean energy by 2030;
    50 percent community-wide clean energy by 2030;
    100 percent community-wide clean energy by 2050;
    25 percent bike/walk/transit mode share by 2030; and
    40 percent total waste diversion from the landfill by 2027.

    [ more at the link ]

  • freebywill

    Chernobyl disaster site repurposed for solar energy (PHOTOS)

    Published time: 14 Jan, 2018 10:25

    100 meters from the giant metal sarcophagus that contains the infamous Reactor Four at the Chernobyl nuclear plant, a new solar project has been built

    3,800 photovoltaic panels installed in a 16,000 square-meter (3.95-acre) area are expected to produce a total of one megawatt of energy for the local grid – enough power for roughly 2,000 homes.

    Ukrainian authorities have opened up roughly 25 square kilometers for solar project developments with 60 proposals currently under consideration. Another 4.2-megawatt solar power plant was recently completed within the irradiated zone in neighboring Belarus.

    The panels are fixed to concrete slabs as opposed to being put in the ground, as drilling, digging or disturbing the soil in the area in anyway is strictly forbidden. It may take an estimated 24,000 years before people can safely inhabit the area again.

    “This solar power plant can cover the needs of a medium-sized village,” Yevgen Varyagin of the Solar Chernobyl, the company behind the development, told AFP. Depending on the success of the facility, the Ukrainian-German company may one day ramp up production to almost 100 times current output.

    The current project cost approximately €1 million ($1,220,200), which Solar Chernobyl hopes the plant will earn back within the next seven years.

  • DUDe DUDe

    All Renewables Will Be Cost Competitive With Fossil Fuels by 2020

    According to a cost analysis from the International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA), the best onshore wind and solar photovoltaic (PV) projects could deliver electricity for $0.03 per kilowatt-hour (kWh) by 2019, much lower than the current cost of power from fossil fuels, which ranges from $0.05 to $0.17 per kWh.

    The analysis highlights the dramatic dip in solar and wind prices over the last decade. Onshore wind has fallen by around a quarter since 2010, with solar PV electricity costs falling by 73 percent in that time. Additionally, solar PV costs are expected to halve by 2020.

  • freebywill

    Sunshine State lags on solar power, doubles down on natural gas

    Florida is already feeling the effects of climate change. So why does it keep building carbon-spewing power plants it may not need?

    By Jamie Smith HopkinsemailKristen Lombardiemail 5:00 am, December 11, 2017

    VERO BEACH, Fla.—The irony is rich. The Sunshine State taps the sun for less than half a percent of its electricity while making two-thirds with natural gas — a fuel that Florida must pipe in from other states.

    Many have called this a risky bet. A coastal state already suffering punishing effects of global warming shouldn’t keep building power plants that pump even more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, the Sierra Club warned. Natural gas prices are low now but will inevitably wallop customers down the road, the Florida Industrial Power Users Group predicted. As far back as a dozen years ago, when gas supplied less than 40 percent of the state’s electricity, then-Gov. Jeb Bush said utilities needed to stop depending so heavily on it.

    [ much more at the link ]

  • Are we selfish or lookin for the're real truth?

    Only if I (and maybe you too) know this…

  • freebywill

    The e-bus revolution has arrived

    by Friends of TFC • January 16, 2018

    (CK) – Early in the fall of 2017, a dozen municipalities from around the world resoundingly signalled that the long-awaited electric bus revolution had finally pulled out of the station. The cities, whose ranks include London, Paris and Vancouver, released a declaration during a C40 Cities summit that after 2025, they’d only purchase zero-emission vehicles, including city buses.

    Los Angeles County, one of the signatories, ordered 95 e-buses in the summer of 2017 for Metro, the region’s transit authority, while other cities will also move sooner, says Caroline Watson, the low-emission vehicle network manager for C40 Cities.

    “The technology is here, now,”

    The latest evaluations bear out how much the price story has changed in just a few years. According to a new study from the International Council on Clean Transportation, the long-term financial and environmental benefits now exceed the higher upfront capital outlay for these vehicles.

    [ article names numerous cities using electric busses ]

    [ as more are used and motor and battery tech improves this is the future of bus travel ]

    [ cars, trucks, buses, whats next? trains . . ? ]

    [ a solar powered locomotive passenger train ? ]

  • freebywill

    UK power system prices go negative Sunday as wind booms, demand weakens

    London (Platts)–15 Jan 2018 242 pm EST/1942 GMT

    Higher wind generation and lower demand drove UK power system prices into negative territory over the weekend, according to traders and National Grid data.

    The daily minimum system sell price was minus GBP 68.43/MWh at 07:30am London time Sunday, according to National Grid. Minimum SSP prices were negative in four consecutive settlement periods Sunday morning, it said.

    [ GBP – Great Britain Pound ? ]

    "Short answer for the negative system prices on Sunday was the wind as [National] Grid has to pay wind [farms] to turn off," a trader said.

    The trader cited strong wind as well as imports from the Continent as factors driving the negative prices, adding that demand was below seasonal norms.

    According to National Grid data, demand for peak times Sunday had been forecast at 44.60 GW, while actual demand outturned at 43.7 GW.

    Between 07:00 am and 08:00 am London time Sunday,
    gas-fired generation was 16.2 GW,
    coal-fired output was 348 MW,
    nuclear output was 7.2 GW and
    wind infeed was 6.4 GW […].

    Wind output had been forecast at less than 6 GW Sunday morning, but wind outturn surpassed 6.3 GW between 07:00 am and 08:00 am London time, according to National Grid, which meant weaker system prices.

  • Jebus Jebus

    In Colorado, a glimpse of renewable energy’s insanely cheap future

    Even with storage, new renewables beat existing coal.

    This month, energy nerds are very excited about a utility bid solicitation.

    Wait, hear me out. It really is exciting!

    Usually, when we talk about how renewable energy will evolve in the next five years, we rely on analysts and projections. This is different.

    When a utility puts out a request for proposals (RFP) — asking developers to bid in for the chance to build new energy resources — the developers who respond aren’t guessing, or boasting. They are laying down a marker that might get called. They are promising only what they are confident they can deliver.

    That makes the responses to an RFP a clear snapshot of the state of the industry, relatively unembellished by ideology or public relations spin. This particular snapshot reveals that, on the ground, renewable energy costs are falling faster than even the most optimistic analyst had projected.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Fossil Fuels Face a $1.4 Billion Solar Problem in Texas

    Gigawatt of solar may cut $2.76 a megawatt-hour from prices

    Fossil fuel-burning generators’ summer revenues at risk

    A boom in solar power is threatening to wipe out $1.4 billion a year of summertime revenue for fossil-fuel generators in Texas.

    Almost 15 gigawatts of solar power may crop up in the Lone Star state in the coming years, and every gigawatt stands to shave about $2.76 a megawatt-hour from wholesale electricity prices there when demand peaks in the summer, an analysis by Bloomberg New Energy Finance show. This could end up dealing a major blow to fossil fuel-burning generators that rely on those peak prices to weather the lulls in demand through the rest of the year.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Early reviews heap praise on Tesla's Model 3, with a few caveats

    Reviews of the Tesla Model 3 praise the car as a futuristic, mold-breaking car that may be the best electric vehicle at its price point. But that doesn't mean it's perfect.

    Imagine. Earth, powered by the Sun…

    • FaunaLord q

      Imagine not sucking Musk's cock.

      • Jebus Jebus

        You brought it. You seem to have it for him. I could care less if it was bugs bunny making cool electric cars that are forcing an industry wide change.

        You have something on your chin…

        • FaunaLord q

          Yeah, it's kinda strange how you mention his shit so often though. Weird how you don't mention all the other electric manufacturers and their stuff. Not trendy enough, no stock?

          What's even weirder is that you know the guy only wants money (as he expects Tesla to be worth $700b or something in 10 years), is associated with dodgy elements, but hey, no problem. From a guy who proposes "free" money, along with fucktards like Zuckerberg…right.

          The industrial revolution was industry wide too, nuclear was a very interesting industry change. Change isn't necessarily good, before you realize it, you may realize that monopolizing big industry government related chains was misspelled. Rope and chains.

      • Jebus Jebus

        Chairman Bill Ford said the car maker would have 40 hybrid and fully electric vehicles in its range by 2022.

        It comes as countries around the world put more pressure on car makers to rein in carbon emissions.

        General Motors, Toyota and Volkswagen have already outlined ambitious plans to offer more electric vehicles.

        Speaking at the Detroit Auto Show on Sunday, Mr Ford said the focus would be on electrifying existing Ford models without naming any specific cars.

        He said the firm would offer 16 fully electric vehicles by 2022 and 24 plug-in hybrids.

        • FaunaLord q

          There basically isn't a car manufacturer that won't build electric vehicles.

          • DUDe DUDe

            Good points made on both sides imho..there are i dun't know how many racing for the dominant position in renewable and AI monopoly's..from "starting position" sort of but not fully..but the whole show is is just do we as a customer/citizen/apeman/slave get the desired outcome ?
            Who wins and with what agenda/compass..the media by design feeds us the winners first imprinted..there is more do we get to know them and scrutinize them to choose..if our mentioning them influences the it should

            • FaunaLord q

              I dunno, which rope seems like it has the best carrot? Hang yourself with that one (I don't mean that personally).

            • AirSepTech AirSepTech

              We don't. We get a crapshoot, long odds.
              That, or a gulag.

              We got Gates. Win3.1, optical drives for $10

              And $100 billion for mini-nukes, geoengineering,weird azz bio engineering.

              Roll the dice.

              • DUDe DUDe

                Gates reminded me of something..


                Combined with bathroom spying by warprofiteers..controlled use by the same AI as everything else , your internet.."your computer" ""controlling with your thoughts now".. "..or the other way around later"" lol , with all their human mimicking and for some arousing robotics but capable of much more..say hello to electronic dissolving in the matrix..
                Microsoft wants to patent mind control
                Battling Zuck for the brain-computer interface

                Microsoft has applied to patent a brain control interface, so you'll be able to "think" your way around a computer device, hands free.

                Last year, Facebook claimed to have 60 engineers engaged in BCI [brain computer interface] but Microsoft isn't going to take this sitting down. It's erm, sitting down and thinking really hard.


      • Jebus Jebus

        GM promises it can make money on all-electric cars by 2021

        "The future is electric," said GM late last year, announcing a faster rollout pace for all-electric vehicles, with two entirely new models before 2020 to join the Bolt EV.

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        They say people that talk about it a lot, are thinking about it a lot.


        • FaunaLord q

          Oh that's cheap. Surely you can do better than that?

          You know I don't like Musk. Everything from "free" money, to mining monopoly (check it out), government relations, AI, etc.

          • AirSepTech AirSepTech


            I retract that remark.

            May want to ponder a world sans mining.

            Clean yes. Possible? Hardly.

            My definition of mining:
            The disturbance of or transportation of any natural mineral or substance for the purpose of concentration or separation.

            It becomes a very hard world for a human.
            Would you agree?

            • FaunaLord q

              Well that is a very broad view of mining. But, fair enough.

              Where we fucked up is with the consumerism, the industry, the sheer magnitude of the mining and the ways we mine, what we mine and how it's processed.

              Too much greed I guess.

              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                Too much greed, too many in need.

                Like most all production, of any kind, there is not a lot of 'inventory'. Excess consumption by a minority.
                But a world that is spread pretty thin, overall.

                I think the new 'Industrial-Tech Revolution' will be something no one can imagine.

                Like no one can remember the original.

                I am thankful I have lived here, now.

                It is the money/economic model, they will save that above everything else. And it lives on resources.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Here is another critic who is heavily invested in the status quo…

    Elon Musk's Tesla Calls for Killing California's Largest Source of Clean Energy, Diablo Canyon Nuclear Plant

    Critics have noted that both companies have depended heavily on taxpayer subsidies — $4.9 billion, to be precise.

    Elon's defenders have rightly noted that nuclear, too, has received government funding.*

    But now, Tesla, which absorbed Solar City last year, has come out in favor of closing Diablo Canyon nuclear plant, California's largest source of clean energy.

    Imagine the outcry if a nuclear energy company tried not just to kill solar subsidies but actually remove Solar City panels from rooftops in order to build more nuclear plants.

    In Tesla's comments to the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC), Tesla makes a transparently self-serving argument in favor of closing Diablo Canyon: it can be replaced by solar panels and batteries.

    "Energy storage resources paired with solar generation," Tesla's attorney chirps, "can take advantage of federal tax credits…"

    • FaunaLord q

      Any publicity will do. I mean, when hundreds of thousands of other people say it, who cares? But when he says it…not that I disagree.

      Anyway, in one of your other links I saw flow batteries, don't really know much about it. I'd also like to see more supercapacitor stuff, like what Lamborghini tried with their concept car.

      "In Tesla's comments to the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC), Tesla makes a transparently self-serving argument in favor of closing Diablo Canyon: it can be replaced by solar panels and batteries"

      Well let's face it, that is probably not untrue. I highly doubt Tesla would be advocating just ANY solar panels and batteries.

    • FaunaLord q

      And of course Tesla is heavily invested. Government subsidies, government and military contracts. Trying to establish monopolies. How is that not status quo?

      • Jebus Jebus

        He will be caught up to and overtaken soon.

        Tesla will still be.

        Probably better because.

        The major manufacturers have seen where they need, did I say need, to place their money…

        • FaunaLord q

          Indeed, progress for the world at the expense of rape of the earth and inhabitants.

          But don't worry too much, it's a quieter, more subtle kind of long-game rape.

          • DUDe DUDe

            "progress for the world , it's a quieter, more subtle kind of long-game rape."

            If a stop is what you want , then it sounds like an improvement in that direction towards watching a pendulum..

          • Jebus Jebus

            You know the native americans always guided the buffalo to a place where harvesting wasn't so traumatic for either party.

            I agree it's like hanging pictures on the gas chamber walls.

            What should we do, Frank?

            • FaunaLord q

              I would ask you to join my suicide cult, but I see you're already in one.

              • Jebus Jebus

                Sorry. I'm in with the cult of no cults.

                • FaunaLord q

                  What, no bank account, no social security, no identification, no preferred branding? I haven't seen too many of those.

                  Most bizarre thing, I was walking around in a sort of mall thing a few years ago. I almost dropped my ID, the security guard was like "Jesus dude, if you lose that we're out".

                  What in the fuck?

                  I burned my ID a few years ago.

                  • FaunaLord q

                    Technically, I don't exist. You've heard something like that before, right?

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Love your outside perspective Frank, but that leaves you to miss the experience.

                    • FaunaLord q

                      Elaborate on "the experience"?

                      I'm not particularly fond of this world, so. I've a fair amount of experience in it, less is good. There are an awful lot of things I could do without.

                  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                    Is wind a viable option for you, FMFF ("Farthington MacMananus", Frank, "q")?

                    What do you think the options are/should be? All or nothing? (No electricity??)

                    Help me out here- you've left me with nothing to work with- accumulatively.

                    • FaunaLord q

                      Wait, so because I reply rather negatively, but somewhat specifically about the "fashionable" though (to me) seemingly dodgy Musk, that means I hate electricity?

                      Well, not quite. I just figure it's massively overhyped, unsuitable at times, associated with bullshit, etc.

                      The options are what they are. No real reason to jump on YET another bandwagon, imo.

                    • FaunaLord q

                      Imagine it this way, all of these proposed revolutions in their way of industrial adoption, have turned out negatively. Maybe we should address that.

                    • FaunaLord q

                      As in, how much is your energy greed vs your energy need?

                    • FaunaLord q

                      Fuck, they are roughly, fake revolutions anyway. Facebook narratives, for instance. There isn't all that much new about lithium ion, for instance, it's massively popular though, just like oil. Or sugar.

                      Dependence on sort of singular elements, because of industrial and marketing "trendiness".

                    • FaunaLord q

                      I want to ask every Tesla owner, if they can imagine for instance, considering the mass of their cars, the sort of "Apple" environment, how much lithium and cobalt is in their car and how much of it involved slave labour, just as an example.

                      Is it really necessary to drive around in a near 2.5 ton, relatively impractical car (to be very kind), wasting like 1000+ nm torque? You know, while you're spending like 3kw on running the electronics in your fucking car.

                    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                      It doesn't have to be about "Musk", though I do see your points- I do.

                      The negative points that you have touched base on, regarding "solar" or "Musk", lead one to believe that you feel leaving nuclear in place is just as well as adopting solar or any other alternative energy because "they too, are poison".

                      Without "other" alternatives on the table, what do you propose the solution might be? Yes, addressing all industry on all levels of harm- a mighty task- could render the desired results you imply that you seek.
                      BUT that is not reasonable…nor logical…on any level, today, is it?

                      I mean, look at the time the anti-nukes have had on just this industry alone. Are you asking that when they make a plea to stop the madness, that they offer a perfect replacement, or their argument is void? That whatever solution they offer must bring zero harm to environment, life or atmosphere, or you will not hear it?

                      Here is my take…

                      Priorities. The first, last and the last, first. Nuclear is THE deadliest industry known to man. It must go now. Yesterday. Nuclear provides an opportunity for NO future- THE destroyer of worlds.

                      You imply "we" would be replacing one poisoning life-destroyer, for another.

                      There is no comparison, in my mind.

                      And no, that bandwagon has not been jumped on. And I wonder why.

                      If you have a case, why don't you make it. You obviously feel very strongly about your assertions regarding mining, etc… So, start the debate.

                    • FaunaLord q

                      Well the post was about Musk, and so was my reply.

                      At absolutely no point did I promote the nuclear industry, so…

                      I don't ask for a necessarily perfect replacement, always consider options, but one option that shares less with historically proven bullshit (eventually) especially considering the appeals, the associations…I dunno hey, maybe I'm just fucking dumb.

                    • FaunaLord q

                      And yes, I am saying you are still choosing death, by government and big industry, along with the mining, because of energy greed.

                      Maybe I'm mistaken, shit, it's even likely, since it's not exactly a consensus view. And I mean, empiricism.

                    • FaunaLord q

                      I dunno it seems pointless even considering this, people are going to be dumb, buy stupid shit, etc. Fucking pointless.

                    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


                      FYI, I have no preference, stock or interest in any energy.

                      Nuclear just has to go. First. Because it is LAST.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      solar, nuclear…what to do?
                      If you look at energy use, most of it goes into heating. Now thats just stupid because all you need are windows facing the sun and some heat absorbing mass inside to carry you through the night. Not toxic at all…zero.

                      The other big energy use is transport. Overcoming drag is the main thing there. A streamlined car can get almost 200 mpg. Same efficiency factor if its electric.

                      That means you can cut global energy use by roughly 2/3 just by changing the mind set of people…architects must use windows and car designers AND the style pushing ad men must streamline the car.

                      Capitalism has herded people into cities. Of course the last blade of grass will die before we turn around the blind greed of making money. But if there is a solution to the world problems, its this; (1) reduce the population. (2) dont try to make money on speculation, real estate, death and misery, war, exploitation etc (3) be wise rather than driven by the status quo

                      Those three would reduce the need for transportation. Heat is no problem. There are enough metals already…reduce the population and recycle would put an end to the mining disaster

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      global oil consumption by sector…see the transportation


                      its the cars….a bad design

                      industry uses a lot of energy. What do they use it for? Refining oil and making chemicals

                      Some say we use more energy refining oil than we would use driving all the cars on electric

                      Add to that that cars are not efficient because we demand a style which is not streamlined. Overcoming drag is the major use of of transport energy.

                      Without the capitalist system, people would not have to work so much…say 1/3 as much. People could work from home also. City planning is horrible! Architects and auto designers are to be held in contempt!

  • Jebus Jebus

    Monopoly. lol…

    President Trump has a chance to hurt China on trade this month — but he could end up hurting U.S. jobs, too.

    Trump is set to decide before the end of January whether to slap punishing tariffs on foreign imports of solar panels, most of which come from China.

    The U.S. president has consistently talked tough when it comes to trade, particularly with regard to China.

    However, much of the U.S. solar industry is hoping Trump will hold fire on this issue, as he has on others. Far from protecting American companies, the decision could kill tens of thousands of U.S. jobs, according to a major trade group.

    "The proposed tariffs are a direct attack on American workers and the booming solar industry in this country," said David Bywater, CEO of top renewable energy firm Vivint Solar (VSLR).

    The U.S. is one of the world's biggest markets for solar energy and pioneered its key technologies.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Japan’s nuclear dependence could shift in favor of renewable energy

    Japanese foreign minister Taro Kono criticizes his country’s efforts in developing renewable energy sources.

    Japan’s foreign minister, Taro Kono, lambasts the country’s effort to develop its own renewable energy, which could signal the end of its reliance on nuclear energy.

    “The government has announced its policies to combat global warming policy after accepting the Paris agreement, and the Cabinet has said it’s a critical issue. But there are contradictions in the energy policy because of its support by the nuclear power industry and large consumers of energy,” a part of the released statement from Kiko Network reads.

  • Jebus Jebus

    The evil electron villian Elon strikes again…

    Tesla To Construct Virtual Solar Power Plant Using 50,000 Homes In South Australia

    Now, Tesla and the government of South Australia have announced a stunning new project that could change how electricity is generated not only in Australia but in every country in the world. They plan to install rooftop solar system on 50,000 homes in the next 4 years and link them them together with grid storage facilities to create the largest virtual solar power plant in history.

    And here’s the kicker: The rooftop solar systems will be free.

    The installations will begin with 100 households in a low-income housing community. Those systems should be completed by the end of June. Then another 1,000 systems will be installed in similar properties by the end of the year.

    After that, another 24,000 Housing Trust residents will be offered the opportunity to join the program, followed by 25,000 more households over the next 4 years.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Is this part of the giant battery thing that SA spent 50 million to subsidize?

    I am very impressed with his 500 dollar flamethrower.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Imagine, sometime in the automated AI future, if the human workday consisted of stepping out on your back lawn, sitting down at your generator and pedaling your share of the days energy into a networked battery system. Log in. Paid by the watt. No pedal, no pay. Daily exercise. Wife and kids bring you lunch. Keep pedaling dear. Save up to get you some more solar and take a vacation while you earn for the kids college.

    Smog days, wear a mask, a fashionable one. Maybe first decade hepa filtered generator gazebo's are necessary.

    Coal, nuclear, and ICE are gone, it will clear up eventually. President Barron Trump hasn't pushed his big red button yet.
    There are three birds and two butterflies left.

    Most would probably live to a hundred.

    Knees and hips would be shot, no different than carrying all that weight around till they drop. There are spares.

    Shoulda bought more solar…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I suppose it's all relative to be times.
    Somehow he reminds me of George Pullman..

    • Jebus Jebus

      These times, you have that correct. George was advancing technology too.

      A little sleepier sense of urgency. We all pick our purpose.

      These times, it will always be motivated by profit. I see more urgency in changing our energy sources, along with the recognition that utilizing capitalistic resources are the only tools available.

      These times need rapid change. Against the current. Somebody has to try…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Since economics is always a motivation.
    Though well deserved, I suppose, I sense an energy baron type situation.. Particularly because he is well heeled by the military.

    • Jebus Jebus

      All the great motivators of change throughout history that were not stolen from, aquired great wealth because that is the only way the system works.

      Just because it's a monopoly, doesn't mean there is no benefit from change.

      I think we need to completely open the sunshine box.

      So far, I don't see it's contents worse than the last ones…

    • Jebus Jebus

      I might add that I feel the connection to MIL/MIC is monetary/necessary for SpaceX.

      He wants to go to Mars. Why not? They, MIL/MIC, want cheap space flight, and they will have control of rocket launches. Seems logical given the function.

      If I were him, I would leverage that to my other endeavers, too…

  • Jebus Jebus

    I really like the articles that start with, "Ten Things You Need To Know About Technology"…

  • Jebus Jebus

    Maybe a nuclear plant is better for Nigeria. An oil well off the coast of California is better for the economy. Fracking the north East USA is great for jobs. Digging up Bears Ears is for economic sustainability.

    My world is great, we don't need to change anything.

    I'm comfortable now…

  • freebywill

    Major Increase in EV Charging Stations Across U.S.

    While electric vehicles only make up a tiny 0.2 percent of passenger cars around the world, that number is growing, and growing fast. In 2016, there were 2 million EVs on the world's roads, up from "virtually non-existent" in 2012. Nearly 200,000 electric vehicles were sold in the U.S. in 2017 alone, a new record.

    This boom in electric car ownership has corresponded with growth in public charging infrastructure. EVgo, the largest public network of fast-charging stations in the U.S., charged 40 million miles of electric driving in 2017. That's a dramatic increase compared to the 22 million EV miles charged in 2016.

    The EVgo network increased by 20 percent last year, and now has more than 1,000 DC fast chargers across 66 markets nationwide. Network usage set a record with 1.1 million charging sessions, an increase of 50 percent.

    Impressively, EVgo said that the 13 million kilowatt hours delivered from the network corresponded to 1.6 million gallons of gasoline saved and prevented the release of 9,000 metric tons of carbon emissions.

    [ more at the link ]

  • Jebus Jebus

    Solar Energy: The Driver Of Economic Growth

    The global demand for photovoltaics will reach the 100 GW level for the first time in 2017, a growth of more than 30 percent compared to the 2016 level, which was 76.6 GW. A combined photovoltaics/thermal (PV/T) system can be used for generating electrical power and thermal power. The power output of a typical PV/T system is 300-400 W/m2. Thus, solar energy can meet the electrical power and thermal power needs for all applications.

    For storing electric power, the lithium battery cost reduction is following the pattern of photovoltaics module cost reduction. By doubling the cumulative production, the cost of a lithium battery pack is reduced by about 22 percent. Capital costs as low as $112/kWh has been reported by Audi. Reduced cost of batteries is driven by exponential rise of the electric vehicle market. In the next 10 years, the lithium ion battery demand for electronics, electric vehicles, and stationary storage is expected to be 1200 GWh.

  • freebywill

    Renewables Now Contribute Nearly One-Fifth of U.S. Electricity Generation

    by Lorraine Chow

    Renewable energy now makes up 18 percent of total electrical generation in the U.S., roughly double the amount a decade ago, a new report shows.

    According to the sixth annual Sustainable Energy in America Factbook, which outlines key U.S. energy trends, renewable energy output in the power sector soared to a record high last year and could eventually rival nuclear.

    The factbook, produced for the Business Council for Sustainable Energy by Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF), shows that renewable generation boomed 14 percent in 2017 to hit 717 terawatt hours (TWh). This increase was driven mostly by the West Coast's rebound in hydropower generation after years of drought as well as new wind and solar projects built in 2016 coming online in 2017.

    [ more at the link, charts etc plus links to the source documents ]

  • freebywill

    A solar panel on every roof in the US? Here are the numbers

    Estimate shows rooftop solar could produce almost 40 percent of our electricity.

    Scott K. Johnson – 2/16/2018, 12:17 PM

    Next, the researchers worked out the average amount of sunlight in a year for each location. Using the average efficiency of rooftop solar panels installed in 2015, they combined everything to produce a map of maximum possible rooftop solar energy production.

    In total, they estimate that there are a little over 8 billion square meters of suitable roofs in the US. Cover that in solar panels, and you would produce about 1,400 terawatt hours of electricity each year—about two-thirds of which would come from small residential buildings. The total production is equal to nearly 40 percent of the total electricity currently sold by utilities in the US.

    A simpler 2008 National Renewable Energy Laboratory estimate came in at just 22 percent of electricity—the new estimate shows a higher percentage partly because solar panel efficiency has improved but also because new sources of data made a more accurate estimate possible.

    [ more at the link ]

  • Jebus Jebus

    Reality, but I see the nuclear parasite still groping for cash…

    Stunner: Solar and wind power alone could provide four fifths of U.S. power

    Study confirms U.S. could have a carbon-free grid in coming decades

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