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  • Checkmate

    I use Baking Soda (A&R) for soaking Vegetables, but mainly for Chem trails. A commenter above said 1% ascorbic acid solution will remove radiation from the leaves, but didn't know of any method to remove cesium from the interior. This is really what I am interested in or the vegetables that use the least amount of water. But things are really getting hairy as I go to four food stores to not find anything radiated. I see malformations in some frozen foods from different companies in the stores. Most of the kale, beets, collar greens, etc. are radiation damaged with either a little yellowing in leafs, holes in the leaves or even burned edges. It is beginning to be difficult to find things to eat…


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  • Checkmate

    And these vegetables are from SC, CA, TX. I worry about the grass fed beef and organic vegetables around here in So. central WI. I had 10' readings of 40 to 50% above background 6 months ago and 3 mos. ago of 80 to 90% above background. The radiation is very noticeable in about 20% of the trees- yellow leaves, some red, bushes and trees dying… This country needs a miracle to stop it…


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    • 4Yahshua

      6~19~5995 (out of 6000) in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!

      I have decided NOT to stress over WHERE the radiation is.
      Instead, I fortify myself with daily with capsules to fight it! Some of these include:
      Boron (to remove radiation from body and strengthen bones)
      Vitamin C with Rose Hips(2000 mg. at a time)to fight stress
      along with the radiation
      D3 (30000 i.u.) to help immunity and spirit
      We also drink almond milk and eat almonds in various ways. They have ingredients that kill cancer cells. Cilantro is a great green to put in most dishes that do not include fruits. It cleanses the body.
      Blessings and may you survive until Yahshua the Messiah returns is my heartfelt prayer!


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      • Not stressing is probably the best thing you can do.

        I'm taking what a ton of research found to be most effective.
        Apple pectin, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Selenium, Calcium, Iodine, Melatonin, and Probiotics. Would be taking DHA but I can't find any without fish in it and I'm travelling right now.

        Also making sure to eat fresh herbs (Mint, lemon balm, tumeric, etc)

        I have a little blog about radiation protection. I should be writing more soon.

        http://what-the-fukushima.com


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  • Thanks chemfood, sickputer, everybody! So I have a question on the liposomal C in case anyone here knows. (I have the same recipe and ordered a ultrasonic device already)

    I can use lecithin as recipe states, no problem…but got to thinking about substituting OG hemp oil instead. Would the molecular reaction be the same and would it encapsulate the solubles? Would it end up nano sized enough to pass through cell membranes? Reading and comparing labels doesn't tell me much. Lecithin seems to be it's own thing when so highly processed down.


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      LastChants…lecithin makes liposomes because it has bipolar molecules. The phospholipids, specificially. But heres the thing; the liposomes dont make it past your intestine intact, and are not absorbed directly into the cell. That is a myth. Its not known why many people report good results with lipo C. The absorption advantage is only at high doses…multi gram doses over five grams. Even then it amounts to an advantage of about twice. It works because the liposomes slow the transit through your small intestine. You might get the same results just by mixing your hemp oil and vit C without using ultrasonication. You would just have to experiment and see. I dont think sonication is required anyway. The lecithin has its own unique nutritive properties. Maybe that contributes to the anecdotal success of lipo C.


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      • Thanks SP, that helps…I had really been scouring and chasing every link to documented studies (tons of anecdotal reports too which were interesting but scientific proof is better) It took days just to zig zag through them to find original sources.

        There were some studies that focused on the ability to pass through other cell membranes rather than just the intestinal wall. If I can find those specific ones in my big long bookmarks mess I'll post here again.

        The studies were comparing percentages of vitamin C that did or didn't get excreted in urine between all large dose methods. If I remember right, in the non-ultrasonic-ed ones, C ranged 16% to 25% absorbed… while the C encapsulated by ultrasonic were getting 75%-95% absorption. If true, that'd be great.


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        • That was to CodeShutdown…sorry. As usual I need to check twice before hitting the button.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Spinning your wheels LastChants. I was through it exhaustively. Lower doses of C, say eating an orange or pepper, gives you upwards of 97% absorbtion. As you increase the dose, absorption goes down considerably. You can take it as well researched that the improvement at high doses amounts to about a factor of two. But theres a lot more to the story. In short, several smaller doses a few hours a part is really the only way to get mega doses orally, and for that, lipo is marginally needed. If you take Vit C regularly, the absorption goes up. So many figures you see are hype, unscientific, or faulty test method. Only a very small amount would make it past your intestine intact, probably via peyers patches. 1% or less. Take care when reading studies that they arent special "hard shell" formulas, or even IV. In fact, you dont want lipo to make it straight to the blood as this invokes a potentially dangerous immune response. But not to worry, it doesnt make it.
          Lipo C is hyped for sales. Mega dose has a place as a pharmaceutical. Its cytotoxic with greater impact on cancer cells. This due to hydrogen peroxide in extracellular spaces. Too much to go into here. Herbs and natural is always a good solution. Lecithin also has a question mark with possible production of Trimethylamine N-oxide. Why not start simple with Vit C and Hemp or coconut, no sonication? Remember holistic principles


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          • Thanx so much Code…Yeah, holistic for sure. And I already include/do maintenance types… all natural OG coconut oil, ester C, citrate forms of whatever, I've got myself covered (I think, but always learning, especially now with the radiation factor) Been in the thick of the know how your body works movement for about 50 yrs I guess. My mom's 91 and blew her Dr's minds when she had dumped them, un-applicable ins. and prescriptions after double mastectomies just about did her in, the usual story on side effects and fear on that. She's since been way healthier than some other family this past 30 years.
            My family (the rest of us) are 3rd generational on the sustainable/health stuff. My daughter's an RN and we brainstorm together, adding in her technical knowledge to the mix too.

            It's my young grand kids who could benefit from me learning all I can about a more hepped up balanced system response….mostly for the strontium, etc, accompanying Fuki exposure symptoms since 2 were living on a boat in San Diego harbor for 3 years. They used to wade ashore from their skiff to start their school day routines.

            Now I'm going to hit the button and hope I didn't make some ridiculous typing mistake or sound too arrogant here. I really appreciate all the experience and knowledge we share. We bust obsolete systems and make paradigm shifts as we go. :)


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          • clamshellernh clamshellernh

            I've done the Linus Pauling bit c cleanse
            1000 msg every hour till saturation "diarrhea " then taper down
            I used the ascorbate


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  • Practical ways to get the rad word out to the People
    http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation/comment-page-13#comment-478924

    Includes Fukushima/WIPP posters, flyers, videos, tear-offs and business cards with resources to easily inform strangers and loved ones of this mounting radiation situation. Then, it's all about the remediation, folks

    Pass them out while We last :)


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  • D. Nudibranch D. Nudibranch

    I just had a thought. I am going to write up a paper with all the stuff I know of with references and links at the end that illuminates every known substance and technology tat can help protect, detoxify, and mitigate the harmful effects of ionizing radiation upon the human body. The list is quite extensive and needs to be broken down by categories such as food, water, minerals, herbs, vitamins, nutraceuticals, decorporation compunds and chelators, protocols, etc. Not only should this list the good things but it should also list things to avoid and why.

    It seems difficult to keep rehashing all the natural remedies I know of here. They all need to be grouped together in one place that breaks it all down for everyone by someone who is doing it as a nonprofit public service. It also has to be practical. There needs to be various protocols outlined including those that can be implemented at a low cost by using food choices only. Bicarbonate I understand is significant, simply taking a small amount of baking soda every day in water for example can help bind up plutonium. Eating apples for their malic acid and pectin content. High potassium organic fruits and vegetables.

    Atlantic Kelp Seaweed, Miso, Blackstrap Molasses, coconut water, chia seeds, lecithin, vitamins A – K. Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Selenium… Everything that is really good for you health-wise mostly helps block out radiation, and helps neutralize it.

    Detoxification is another…


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Dr there are sites that are already doing this work , I will post some links sometime in the near future ..keep up the good work


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Dr Atlantic seaweed has cesium from Fukushima in it already , it was tested in 2012 by the Maine sea vegetable council . I will lpost that again here . I have heard Scandinavian seaweed is the cleanest .. I'm on the Atlantic and will use it now before it gets worse .. I've Ben tinkering around with a tincture ..I also use it in my compost .. I'll keep you folks appraised of my concoctions .
      Lemon balm i, Japanese knotweed tinctures . Harold buhners books on Lyme disease herbal treatments can also be used for building immunity .. "As I look at all my jars of tinctures "


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    • I have a website trying to make it easy for people to understand what to take, how much, and why.

      There are tons of studies and some very dense reading materials already available so I am trying to keep it as simple as possible.

      I also am recommending the least expensive but most effective things. For example, spiruluna is great but for its effectiveness, not very economical.

      Still a work in progress. Just need to make more time to distill more info.

      Glad this thread exists.


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  • vital1

    Info Wars sells an Iodine supplement called Survival Shield™. They have now provided information on their source of Iodine, plus how it is manufactured.

    This is important information as any iodine product sourced from sea weed has the potential to be contaminated with Iodine 1-129, or other contaminants.

    26th June 2013 – This scientific report indicates that the amount of long lived radioactive Iodine I-129, released during the early stages of the Fukushima Nuclear disaster, was 31 times greater than the short lived radioactive Iodine I-131. This study does not take into account any radioactive Iodine releases since then. The half life of I-129 is 15.7 million years a lot longer than the 8 days of I-131.

    http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/GJ/pdf/4604/46040327.pdf

    With this level of long life Iodine contamination bio-accumulating in the environment, the question needs to be asked, is it necessary to take a clean sourced Iodine food supplement for the rest of one’s life to block its uptake?

    Iodine supplements are not for everyone. We are all different. Some people taking them can get serious adverse side effects. No one should take them without medical advice from their doctor.

    For those who can take Iodine supplements it is important to know the source of the Iodine.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ChaE9o6uaw


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    • vital1

      Note: The Potassium Iodine tables supplied during a Nuclear disasters flood the Thyroid with huge amounts of Iodine to limit the uptake of radioactive I-131. They are not to be used for any other purpose. It would be dangerous to take any more than the recommended dose.


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      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Curious , how's it made , can producers be trusted and also this shit does not work except in the beginning , it's being sold to the masses and they aren't even are of how it works or does not .. This cannot be taught enough …everyone's attempting to make a buck ..and it's going to get really interesting ..so do your homework


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  • Noah

    Why Liposomic C is so effective.

    1. It gets people taking vitamin C in higher dosages, the encapsulation makes it more easy on the stomach, reducing loose stools and acid problems.

    2. The biochemical components of microlized lipids contained in the lecithin profoundly effects new cell production, about 500 million cells daily. Most diseases begin because of lack of materials (lipids + C) to construct healthy new cells. C supplies bases of collagen for example.

    3. The absorption rates of lipo C is not the primary reason it is effective, but it phospholipid biochemical profile combined with C which reverses disease states mentioned in the testimonials you are reading.


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  • razzz razzz

    Everything you wanted to know about cabbage and zeolite on sale.

    "…The uniqueness of cabbage in cancer prevention is due to the three different types of nutrient richness found in this widely enjoyed food. The three types are (1) antioxidant richness, (2) anti-inflammatory richness, and (3) richness in glucosinolates…"
    http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=19

    Zeolite ZeoForce Detoxify Daily
    http://www.pipingrock.com/zeolite/zeolite-zeoforce-detoxify-daily-40190


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  • VanneV VanneV

    maybesomeday
    June 11, 2014 at 1:16 am

    Argo: According to this article, fasting may reset the immune system "triggering stem cell-based regeneration of an organ or system" http://news.usc.edu/63669/fasting-triggers-stem-cell-regeneration-of-damaged-old-immune-system/


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  • Argo Argo

    Thank you maybesomeday and Anne …

    I hope many people see the documentary so they wake up to the lies…

    Anne, thank you for your posts ..very good


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  • Checkmate

    The baking soda protocol (Arm & Hammer) in my opinion works for anyone with Cancer…Check it out…


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      I would get the organic baking soda it's cheap , this is all about the acidity I alkalinity in the body making it harder for the cancer , look up moss the politics of cancer and you will find this protocol in one of his books or links to it .


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  • Checkmate

    In my opinion, baking soda works against Cancer…


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  • Checkmate

    Sorry about double posting…Did know if one went thru…


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      you'd be performing an invaluable service, Checkmate, if you researched this further and posted some references. My friend recommended sulfured molasses and low-aluminum-content baking soda. Seems everybody knows a little, but not enough to go on…


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  • combomelt combomelt

    HELP, a farmer, an arborist, a horticulturalist, a botanist, enewsers, please read and break it down ..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperaccumulators_table_%E2%80%93_3

    Anyone care to expound upon any potentials for the rest of us? Someone here must have some key insight into how we may use some of these plants to our advantage. Someway, somehow,…..involving local climates, altitudes etc,…. what works??? anything?

    Peace


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  • Checkmate

    AFTERSHOCK, in regards to your question. I find that tradition doctors aren't educated in Cancer or are afraid to lose their license. And doctors outside the box using alternative medicine are busy guarding their nest egg too but really are putting Cancers into remission but at a high cost. The Arm and Hammer baking soda doesn't not contain any aluminum and also there is another brand sold in health food stores (the only two). Aluminum is only found in Baking POWDER…not Baking SODA. If you wish to find out more about this bicarbonate soda protocol then check out You Tube and hit up "Ph Kills Cancer" The name of his website is phkillscancer.com Also he wrote a book and it sells for $15 is highly recommended by me with many testimonials of varies different Cancers to the effect that it works.
    Please note: I do not know the gentleman personally nor I do not have any monetary interest in the site or book and collect nothing for recommending the above. I honestly want to get the word out and hopefully save a lot of lives…
    I believe it is everybody's God given right to be truly informed and for those who know- it is their duty is to tell others.
    Why take a secret to the grave…you can't use it there…spread the knowledge to the living…they need it.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      invaluable comments, Checkmate. Fully concur on the nature of our current medical practitioners. It's sad.

      The other brand you're referring to, is "BOB'S RED MILL". Friend of mine tells me, sulfured molasses is the perfect compliment to this treatment protocol. Un-sulfured molasses is ineffective as a transport mechanism.

      I'll definitely make a point of checking out that publication. And no need for a disclaimer. I sense you're for real. Go you one better. Become our go-to guy on this protocol. Lots of people have talked about it here, but no one's made a point of compiling good references. It'd be 'nice' if someone took it upon themselves to guide those in need.

      Thanks for your kind response Checkmate. Keep me in the loop…


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  • Checkmate

    Combomelt a lot of the problems with using plants (outside of vegetables) for detox or otherwise is many people are allergic to them. I for one am allergic to most; thus, I call them weeds. But you have to keep in mind what area do they come from…I would not drink green tea grown in Japan. In fact, I worry about all these health food store vitamins and where the respective ingredients are coming from…let alone plants from different regions to save the day. There have been reports on here about trees being cesium 137 sponges and also the pollen being radioactive. So I don't think anything on the planet is really safe…thus I believe that one must eat healthy and hopefully keep the body in balance taking Vitamin C and maintaining the PH balance…


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Checkmate
      I too question everything as far as food goes
      Would even take old canned goods and vitamins pre fuku .
      I used to have my grain stored in food grade drywall buckets that would last up to seven years stored correctly , I'm on the Atlantic and preparing seaweed for storage even though it does show radiation levels since 2012 in maines seaweed from fuku , I figure I'll take it now before it gets worse …would love to find a store that has old vitamins that are still on the shelves .


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      • You could also import the vitamins. A few southern hemisphere countries make their own vitamins. (Australia and South Africa are my go-to)

        I am still weary of all of the sodium alginate I've found. I should see if there is some in South Africa. Their parts of the oceans should be the least contaminated in the world right now.


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      A green road has been posting a link that most all of green tea is radiated ..perhaps get the chlorophyll from wheat berries aka wheat grass , but need the grinder


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    • combomelt combomelt

      ty checkmate, however, i was inquiring about environmental remediation(regardless how small it may be). I wasn't considering that people should ingest said plants, only that many of them seem to absorb radiation/uptake radionuclides thus purging the soil/groundwater of some of the contamination. Anything to any of these plants in that respect?


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  • Checkmate

    Cadmium has been recently studied and a report has been released about it in animals and plants. Humans eating animals will get a build up of it absorbed into their system. Most notably- the pig, all bottom ocean life as lobsters, claims, etc. contain the most and give a direct build up.
    Plants also contain Cadmium, but the plant contains other ingredients which protect you and the Cadmium just passes through and is not absorbed.
    This gives a lot of hope that plants can do the same with Cesium, but I don't know. Scientists should be definitely working on this…


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  • Checkmate

    Combomelt, Boron is mixed into the feed for cows in Hawaii to try to control Cesium in milk.
    I have heard other people are mixing Boron with the soil to raise vegetables. It seems to bind up some of the radioactive fallout.
    It would be nice to know what plants to eat…and I do believe that the Russians have most of the answers from their studies after their meltdown… Maybe someone with a relative in Russia could find out and inform us.


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  • The main thing I've read about plants and uptake of radioactive isotopes plus adding in the boron as a *grabber* is that you'd hope it sufficiently *grabbed* the C-137 (as an example), while still in the gut and then be excreted from the body system. But then the endless circle continues, with excretions going to where?…our sewers, soil, ground water, etc.

    Chelation helps too but sigh….nothing yet is ultimately the one silver bullet we so desperately need. We'll just do the best we can with everything we're learning that helps, while simultaneously trying to prevent new NPP's from being built.


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  • Checkmate

    AFTERSCHOCK, you are right about the un-sulfured molasses and Br'er Rabbit Blackstrap molasses fits the bill, but only the Blackstrap molasses from among the other Rabbit molasses products. But if one cannot get unsulfured molasses, then either pure honey or maple syrup is suppose to work too.
    As far as Bob's Red Mill goes, why pay the extra price when Arm & Hammer is much cheaper and was the first used for Cancer in the 1930's before Bob's was ever thought of.
    A terrific site of interest is: Budwig Center.com and read their free manual that they Email. It is excellent.
    Dr. Simoncini in Rome, Italy was doing a great job curing cancers until the government took his license away and put him out of business. He used the Baking Soda Protocal and also a more direct method for more difficult tumors through direct injection into the tumor with a solution of baking soda and I think water…
    Because of the Fukushima radiation and the American Cancer Society prediction that 2 out of 3 males will get Cancer and 1 out of 3 Women will…I believe this info is more important now then ever to get out to save more lives… Kindest regards….


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      totally agree, Checkmate. Thanks for staying on top of this, and seriously consider my appeal that you become our go-to-guy on this subject! What you're attempting to do in educating people, is, in my opinion, the greatest calling any could have. That you're showing people there's less expensive alternative therapies is awesome. Thank you Checkmate…


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  • Checkmate

    AFTERSHOCK, I really don't mind helping folks on this subject, but you must remember I am not a Doctor or otherwise medically qualified to give any medical advice. My experience is mainly from reading about it and stating what my personal experiences have been with this protocol. I am still in the learning process too.
    One important thing I have read is Cancer can get a little worse before getting better with this protocol, which I believe is personally true for some of us. Dr. Simoncini had over a 1,000+ patients and did wonders. I read where a person was on this protocol for a month and he said it wasn't working for him (he was in serious condition with several different Cancers). Dr. Simoncini said to tell him to stay on the protocol for another month.
    Now that is what I call faith in a treatment!!! since the good Doctor had saved so many people… Respectfully…


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      all good, Checkmate. I was suggesting that you compile and periodically update the information within this forum. Throw in a disclaimer to the effect that you're unaffiliated with the sources and products, and are only providing a public service. This site is one of the most visited and as such, offers an excellent venue for your efforts. If-and-when the day comes that the information featured in your educational campaign becomes common knowledge, then your work is done. Until then, you've got an awesome opportunity that's afforded you within this forum and site! I say…use it…


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  • Checkmate

    I must say this out of fairness- of all the 1,000s of patients he treated and all were a success, he had only 1 die. The circumstances around this death could be many and not the Doctor's fault, I really don't know. Maybe that individual did not follow a diet without sugar. But I will say that Dr. Simoncini's success rate is far superior than the majority of Cancer MD's in the US. So the odds are better, at least as I see it that works.
    But please be aware that this protocol can be very dangerous 1-if you do not use it correctly 2-if you have other unrelated Cancer issues- such as heart problems, etc. Always consult a doctor before starting any protocol.


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  • Checkmate

    There is a new technology called Rife, which is slowly taking the medical field by storm and will leave big Pharma in the dust. It is a machine which sends electric sine waves into the body, which I hear can cure a number of illnesses and cancer. In fact some alternative doctors are using this for Cancer.
    I believe the approach is you go to your doctor and he puts some blood or urine test strip into the machine and it suppose to correctly diagnose your illness then the doctor programs a small portable machine and you take it home and plug it in and apply the electrodes for small amount of time to the designated areas.
    It has been found that a higher frequency is needed above the lower illness frequency in order to kill the bacteria or virus.
    I believe this is the beginning wave of the new medical future and goodbye to drugs.
    I post only as a public service and I am not associated with anything or person in the industry.


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  • For me, radiation prevention is all about iodine rich foods, astaxanthin (grown outdoors so it needs to be sourced properly), spirulina, kale, chlorella, zeolite, coenzyme q10 taken with omega in high EPA/DHA, rhodiola, beets, and the like.

    Moving forward, I'd suggest learning to grow your own spirulina: http://radiationprevention.com/spirulina-easier-grow-typical-garden/


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