FORUM: Discussion Thread for December 26, 2011 – January 2, 2012

Published: December 26th, 2011 at 12:00 am ET


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Published: December 26th, 2011 at 12:00 am ET


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464 comments to FORUM: Discussion Thread for December 26, 2011 – January 2, 2012

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    OT..the 1981 Israeli bombing of an Iraqi nuclear reactor…
    The US has been Israel’s flunky for a long time.
    From the 1981 files…the secret war in Afghanistan..

  • @ Admin,

    There is NO Reply word/link to answer or a box to post on
    FORUM: Possible Fukushima-related Anomalies — Deformations, Yellow Rain, Metallic Taste in Mouth, etc. ????

    Can you fix it !

  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    Media Blackout
    Another incident of the press not reporting the ongoing nuclear crisis in Japan
    National Public Radio Show today a report on this year’s volatile economy states “In March, Japan was struck by a deadly earthquake and tsunami that slowed the country’s industrial base to a crawl.” Source: under 6th paragraph subhead “A Tumultuous Year in Review”

    When I heard this in my car I was waiting to hear the part about the ongoing nuclear crisis and radiation releases. Funny that whole side of the story was not even mentioned. How interesting in a story about the “Volatile Economy” the impact of the earthquake and tsunami were mentioned but the volatility of the nuclear crisis on Japan’s economy was not even mentioned. Japan can recover from the Earthquake and Tsunami what they will not bounce back from is the radiation contaminating their country, food supply and people.

    I was talking with someone today about Japan and giving them a rundown of what is going on. What was their number one question…”Why haven’t I heard anything about this on the news?” When I told them there is a media blackout on the topic they didn’t say anything. It is very difficult for people to believe a media blackout exists. Maybe ENENEWS should start a separate area under Discussion for people to post the evidence of media blackout. This would allow us to direct people to that location to see exactly when information is not being reported or how it is being spun.

    • lokay5 lokay5

      Elephant? What elephant?

    • lokay5 lokay5

      Today Harry Shearer said that Fukushima is the “largest nuclear disaster in a generation” What a crock! Even HE’S playing it down and he’s (supposedly) totally anti-nuclear. I don’t get it.
      This absolutely DWARFS Chernobyl!

  • lam335 lam335

    Interesting google map, but no mention of nuclear disaster/fallout in report:

    “Take a tour through Japan’s destruction”

  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    Erin Brockovich has new book..and is most recent advocate for human rights of Americans exposed to Fukushima hot particles and radiation from U.S. nuclear energy plants

  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    US judge rules Iran responsible for 9/11 –‘Findings:’ Iran continued to provide material support and resources to al-Qaida by providing a safe haven for al-Qaida leadership and rank-and-file members. 24 Dec 2011 A US judge has signed a default judgment finding Iran, the Taliban and al-Qaida [al-CIAduh] liable for the September 11, 2001 attacks. Judge George Daniels in Manhattan signed the judgement a week after hearing evidence in the 10-year-old case. Judge Daniels signed findings of fact saying the plaintiffs had established that the attacks were caused by the support the defendants provided to al-Qaida. [9/11 was an inside job, six ways to Sunday.]
    So reminiscent of Iraq and WMD… just an excuse to invade.. good grief..

    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      Nothing to be gained by blaming Iraq, the Taliban, Osama, Al Qaeda anymore. But it would be really helpful to blame Iran~~~!!! Yep!

  • Mack Mack

    So much interesting info on

    “Plutonium – and virtually all non-noble gaseous radioisotopes – mostly didn’t leave Fukushima as lofted solid particles or on water-based steam but rather as steam itself: plutonium gas/vapor caused by the extreme heat of the melting cores or the overheated corium. Plutonium and strontium is still evaporating out of Fukushima and TEPCO continues to deceive the public with false statements and phony scientific explanations to cover up this truth.”

    “Volatization is the main reason why Fukushima is still contaminating the air supply of the Northern Hemisphere.”

    • Mack Mack

      Great analysis of the radiation plumes that hit the U.S. in March/April:

      • CB CB

        I hear you Mack.
        Ene staff please stop modorating me, making it hard for me to comment. You have not included any of my posts during moderation for more than a week.

      • Wonderful site.

        “Centuries ago citizens across the New and Old Worlds created governments to forever protect the natural rights of man. Yet we, the inheritors of their republics, are uncommitted to those original promises of natural rights. When our lack of commitment to human rights is reflected by government, things like slavery, lynchings, institutional racism, crimes against humanity and more endure. The major governments of the world have acted in the ‘nuclear first, people second’ manner because they believe what we believe and in secret negotiations they have made decisions that we would make, that imperil human health or life for the quest for power, weapons, or energy resources. But because such top-level decisions carry large-scale consequences that inflict mass harm on human rights and life, these actions could be considered mass crimes. Thus, governments lie, cover up and fraud and deceive their populaces about the nature of their decisions or their consequences that subordinate human rights. Pertaining to government decisions that unwisely overexposed millions or billions to nuclear radiation, governments simply lie about the biological consequences and justify their decisions (using twisted arguments). Thus, a world of people cannot revolt against a ‘nuclear first, people second’ one-world-government because they are ignorant – the mass crimes being committed by their scandalous governments are unknown to them because governments control the information according to the ‘nuclear first, people second’ mandate.”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Obama’s new tax on the poor: Internet gambling by states

    The Obama Justice Department quietly issued a legal opinion – just before a long Christmas weekend – that allows states to set up nonsports Internet gambling. The opinion upends decades of contrary decisions, but its real effect will be on the poor (and young) who suffer the most from gambling.

    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      Guess Obama is responding to OWS. If the 1% has worked the casino so long now, maybe BO thinks it’s time to give the same to the 99%!

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    H5N1 infection in China
    “A man is seriously ill, infected with the H5N1 strain of flu virus, in the southern Chinese city of Shenzen. The local government is on alert to prevent the spread of the highly dangerous virus.

    Local health authorities say a 39-year-old bus driver who was in hospital for pneumonia was found to be infected with the bird flu virus. He developed a fever 10 days ago and was later admitted to the hospital.

    Authorities are investigating aggressively how he was infected as the patient is believed not to have been in touch with birds for the past month. No new patients are reported among those who came into contact with him recently.

    In nearby Hong Kong, the government culled about 17-thousand poultry in late December as the H5N1 strain was detected in a dead chicken at a poultry market.
    In China, a 22-year-old woman died of bird flu last June in the inland province of Hubei.”

    *Am I the only one thinking that mass animal farming might cause those infections to develop / to spread?

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    NRC requests our comments

    “The NRC is issuing for
    public comment draft regulatory guide DG-4021, “General Site
    Suitability Criteria for Nuclear Power Stations.” This guide describes a method that the NRC staff considers acceptable to implement the site suitability requirements for nuclear power stations.”
    Submit comments by February 25, 2012

    Further info here:

    • jec jec

      NO Nuke plant co-location within 10,000 miles of any earthquake fault lines, 10,000 miles of any water source, 10,000 miles from groundwater levels and 1,000,000 miles from any life form. Look at outer space for the location…

      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        🙂 will you put that on a piece of paper and send them, please?

      • Last I checked, we’ve already got a very fine nuclear fusion plant sitting just 93 million miles or so ‘offshore’. Maybe we should just use that one… §;o)

        • Bobby1

          The sun shines on everyone, the just and the unjust. They can’t have that. How can they monopolize it? The sun must be a terrorist then.

          • Yeah, well…

            I read a biography of Tesla once, seem to remember something about his ‘tower’ drawing power from the earth itself – not dependent upon sunny weather in just the daytime. Truth is, electrons are cheap. All around us, all the time. All we really have to do is concentrate and channel them.

            No, such capability will never appeal to for-profit corporate enterprises, for obvious reasons. That doesn’t mean it couldn’t be developed and deployed. That would just have to come bottom-up instead of top-down. With some protection for the people who do the developing, against the inevitable nasty backlash of for-profit corporate/governmental/military enterprises [a.k.a. MIC – Military-Industrial Complex, plus gub’ment flunkies who serve it). There’s no rational reason every outlying farm building, every house, every strip-mall, every multi-acre factory, every twice-a-week metal megachurch, every apartment building, every high-rise can’t generate their own energy. There would even be enough to sell elsewhere from villages/towns that can produce more than they use.

            I know why our current economic system wouldn’t like that one bit, but our current economic system is literally on its deathbed as we speak. We the People are going to have to take over most things for ourselves.

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      …sounds like a quick round up of names and IPs to me….
      ….something for them to work up their lies against..
      …ah…let ’em work harder for the info…cheaters…lol

    • It wouldn’t hurt to flood these impotent a-holes with comments suggesting they actually apply the regulations already on the book requiring that plants be sited far enough from major population centers. As in:

      and as underlined in primary recommendations of both the Kemeny and Rogovin Commission investigations of the accident at TMI-2. This means NOT siting any new units at any nuclear reservation close to major population centers, as most of our antiques are. ALL ordered new plants in this country are sited at reservations that are already in violation of this rule.

      Additionally, siting should be limited so that no more than 2 reactors exist on any given site, and those should be far enough apart to preclude meltdown of a second if a first melts down. This must also include separate off-site power supplies and emergency power supplies. Moreover, each and every plant should have at least three separate means of emergency power supply capable of providing power to vital systems and SFP circulation for a minimum of 14 days. It wouldn’t hurt to also require plants to site-generate enough power to provide circulation to SFPs and zero-power primary/heat removal systems via alternative means – hydro, wind, solar, geothermal or some combo of these, to provide control even if the power goes out indefinitely.

      The industry – thus the NRC – could and would never do any of these things, of course, because it would cost too much and prevent any new plants from being built. Tough titty.

      • For more on what current regs (that are ignored by both the industry and the NRC with prejudice), see:

        • James2

          Joy just a question.

          If they often ignore the regulations, what keeps the anti nukes from filing injunctions against them?

          Do the judges also ignore the regulations? Are they able to smokescreen all the issues with technical jargon?

          • Alas, there is no actual legal weight to the regulations – they’re mostly suggestions. NRC’s only real power is licensing, and they don’t often exercise that. Which is why you saw North Anna restart despite lack of physical inspection for earthquake damage. They “eyeballed” unit-1, applied their assumptions to unit-2 without any inspection at all, and were good to go according to NRC. Nobody’s going to be surprised when one of ’em melts down, either.

            In fact, the only time I am aware of that NRC ever actually used its power to slam a utility is when they summarily pulled the license for TMI unit-1 because Met-Ed started it up without approval while unit-2 was still melting. They got it back in 1985 despite ample evidence of public harm, AFTER Met-Ed had notoriously become the only public utility ever to have been convicted in criminal court (of falsifying release rate data for unit-2 before the accident).

            The NRC exists to promote and defend the nuclear industry, not to protect and defend public health and safety. Despite their fancy-schmancy mandate. Hell, Greg Jaczko is probably the first commissioner to take the mandate seriously since NRC was created in 1974. You see where that got him…

            The people have no recourse. I know that because we submitted material briefs to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1985 when it was hearing the final appeal against restart of TMI-1. SCOTUS blew it off. Only if you can personally prove that you have suffered damages from a nuclear incident can you sue a utility for damages, and the system is rigged so that no such proof can ever exist. They decided all the cancers (thousands) caused by TMI-2 were actually caused by coal dust left over from the 1950s. They can ALWAYS blame something else…

          • …Citizens or groups can file for injunctions pre-emptively against building a nuke, and they do so regularly. That has never officially stopped a single reactor from being built. Nukes that get started but never finished are most often the victims of utility headaches and legal expenses, not any judge’s ruling. Sand in the gas tanks works pretty well to induce headaches and expense…

            Public utilities are a bit more sensitive to public opinion than the multinational gigacorps that now own/operate most nukes in this country in blatant violation of the Atomic Energy Act our government has completely forgotten since the end of the good ol’ Cold War. Yet despite the end of that long war, the ‘National Security’ exemptions for all things nuclear still manage to apply, limiting what people are allowed to know or say about this creepy, suicidal technology. It’s never going to change unless the people rise up en masse against it. I’m hoping that will now happen, but I’m not holding my breath.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Sorry, but nuclear power plants will never be safe. You are envisioning a single meltdown at each site. But all the radionuclides released by an operating or decommissioned nuclear plant is unacceptable. A single meltdown is catastrophic and destroys the human genome beyond repair. Current state of the world has already severely affected the intelligence of all members of the human race. Each day we continue operation of nuclear PP and nuclear experimental reactors and nuclear processing plants seals the coffin on the human race and the planet.

        • midwestern midwestern

          Ditto, anne. General site suitability? No nuclear plants on earth. Period. No site is suitable for a nuke power disaster or leak or spill or regular regulated release. It doesn’t work, hasn’t worked, won’t work in any of the dimensions of our time and space.

          • midwestern midwestern

            And let’s stop pretending that we can regulate nuclear power plants and operators. It’s an irresponsible farce. We are not entitled to juggle with matter that we can’t control. We’re not entitled to damage and kill the environment that our species and so many others depend upon. And most certainly, even if we’re complacent about killing our own, we’re not entitled to sicken and kill other animal species that have no ability to protest the toxins that we are imposing upon their environments–that are annihilating them.
            There is no real possibility of regulating nuclear power or its waste products in any way so that it doesn’t harm us, the environment, and our fellow earthly inhabitants. It was created to destroy and threaten to destroy, and that will always be its promise.

        • arclight arclight

          “Each day we continue operation of nuclear PP and nuclear experimental reactors and nuclear processing plants seals the coffin on the human race and the planet.”

          completely agree!

          next nuke argument

          need for health applications
          need for irradiating food
          need for science equipment

          in fact go to the IAEA website and you can see them morphing into the good use of nuclesr message.. reactors are here to stay, if they have there way!!

          maybe what arnold gunderson sees happening? hence the talk of smaller reactors!!

          to be anti nuke is to be anti health!! that will be the next attack on the proponents of anti nuke policies!!

          the writings on the wall, i think!!

          when this PR battles won ! that will be the next!!
          (c u there! 🙂 )

  • midwestern midwestern

    How they learned to hate the Bomb:
    On the day after a nuclear bomb annihilates Washington, New Delhi, Islamabad, Seoul, Tel Aviv or Moscow, vaporizing and burning to death hundreds of thousands of people, our present complacency about nuclear proliferation will look like daylight madness. Even the chilliest of realists have shuddered at our capability for radioactive massacre. In 1977, the strategist George F. Kennan declared, “No one is good enough, wise enough, steady enough, to have control over the volume of explosives that now rest in the hands of this country.” Nuclear arms, he concluded, “shouldn’t exist at all.”

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Update on I-131 in Europe:
    I just checked the EURDEP map again, to finish off 2011…still, the Krsko NPP in Slovenia is breathing up to 8 Bq/m3 Iodine-131 into the atmosphere. They check the levels every 30 minutes. This has been going on since August.

    What annoys me most is the fact that the main map page only shows “detection limit” levels, instead of using a bright orange spot which usually marks levels over 1 Bq/m3.

    For anyone interested:

    • arclight arclight

      well spotted b and b!! thought that part of the hemisphere might be safer .. the winds go out towards the atlantic over rhte med quite often! makes for a very confusing picture! and the orgaisations who are covering it up? the same ones covering all of them up

      for instance submarine on fire story, fire out and every thing ok!

      go to nuclear news net and

      “Bellona, a respected Norwegian NGO which monitors Russia‘s nuclear fleet, said the number of casualties may have been higher…..”

      ranging from containers full of radioactive water to decrepit buildings full of fuel rods.”

      and the stuff lying around that yard!! wow! heres the link

      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        Thanks arc – I know I’ll get on the IAEA’s nerves on Monday first thing in the morning (no work til Wednesday!).
        Concerning the russians – I never believed the “look how responsibly they acted” stories. Neither in Chernobyl nor today.
        They just take advantage of the fact that their country is big and hope noone’s watching….didn’t expect enenewsers lurking, hehe

  • midwestern midwestern

    Is Indian Point nuke plant safe for another 20 years?:
    “…Calling the plant “aging” and “leaking,” opponents to the relicensing, including Clearwater, Riverkeeper and New York State, maintain that the plant is unsafe and poses serious risk to the surrounding population, in particular children, the elderly, the sick and the largely low-income minority residents that live in the area.

    “The NRC has failed to recognize the disproportionate impacts a serious accident at Indian Point would have on them, failed to look for ways to reduce these impacts, and failed to assess the plant’s environmental impact statement with respect to them,” Clearwater said in a statement.

    The NRC completed the environmental impact statement for Indian Point in December 2010, but Clearwater maintained – in its December 22 testimony presented to the NRC – that the review did was “not based upon a “hard look” at the issue, as is required by the National Environmental Policy Act (“NEPA”) and the Commission’s own guidance, and is erroneous…”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    If Iran’s nuclear facilities are blown up, how many meltdowns will that be worth? What level of nuclear disaster will that be? A 50+? [Sarcasm} Do we want Fukushima to remain the worst disaster?
    KAHLILI: The coming war with Iran
    Regional chaos might count as a win for the mullahs

    • Meh. Gotta have another war, because there’s no jobs for returning vets and no money to give them the benefits they’ve earned. You watch – this time they’ll have to go in without any body armor at all…

  • James Tekton James Tekton


    May this year be a year of great changes for the betterment of everyone world-wide.

    HAPPY NEW YEAR Pictures, Images and Photos

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Party like it is 1929!

  • wideawake wideawake

    New Element Recently announced.. the discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science. The new element has been named “Governmentium.”

    “Governmentium (Gv) has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 98 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 212. These 212 particles are held together by forces called morons. Morons still an unexplored substance, the distinctive feature of which is large amounts of pockets.

    Governmentium has a normal half-life of 4 years; its mass will constantly increase over time, because during decay cycle, the mass of pockets of assistant neutrons, deputy neutrons and assistant deputy neutrons on the increase and when it reaching critical concentration, the stucture undergoes a reorganization, in which some morons become neutrons, a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected, because it impedes everything with which it comes into contact and it comes in reaction with everything that has electrons and not inert. A minute amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second take over four days to complete.

    When Gv decays, it falls into other new elements, Retiredum (Re) and Retardium (Rt) which some call Dementium (Dm)”

    Author: Filatova Elena Vladimirovna

  • midwestern midwestern

    Peaceful new year to all. And while we work on abolishing nuclear from the planet…”may the odds ever be in our favor”…

  • teamplayer

    I don’t often comment on this site, but I do visit it every day.
    I want to thank the administration for providing this forum and all the posters who have added so much to my understanding of the disaster at Fukushima, and nuclear matters, in general.
    I wish you all a good year.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    For how much longer will Japan’s fate remain in the hands of amateurs?

    “…Can Japan, a country so prone to seismic disaster, move ahead in the 21st century while still maintaining nuclear facilities that may cause even worse radiation-related disasters in the future?

    “What is the risk of another Fukushima-type catastrophe, perhaps on an even more frightening scale, taking place — and is that risk worth taking?…

    “Until such time as the government of this nation can assure its citizens that the people running the nuclear power industry are independent experts who understand the nature of risk and hazard, our fate will remain in the hands of dangerous amateurs who put the aggrandizement of their companies and the gravity of their greed above the welfare of humanity….

    “A seismic event such as the one on March 11, 2011, that led to a plant blackout and the loss of cooling in three reactors could take place under or near any nuclear power plant in Japan at any time.

    “As of the end of October last year, only 10 reactors out of a total of 54 were operating in this country. Since then, three have gone offline for scheduled inspections, and one more is due to do so in February. With a mere seven reactors working now, there has been no vocal call for restrictions on the use of electricity this winter…. Steps should be taken to shut down the remaining operating reactors at a reasonable pace and begin decommissioning every single nuclear power plant in this country….
    “All the talk last year about rediscovering a sense of hope and accomplishment will amount to nothing but bluster and hot air unless — and until — Japan is made safe from the unacceptable risks and the known certain hazards of nuclear power.”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Fukushima: Cover up a human rights violation

    “…Nuclear Watchdogs continue alerting public about Fukushima and U.S. radiation poisoning violating human right to health care…

    “The most recent to advocate for human rights of Americans exposed to Fukushima hot particles and radiation from U.S. nuclear energy plants is Erin Brockovitch.

    “CNN interviewed famous environmentalist Erin Brockovich (pictured, left) about her new novel, Hot Water, about health risks of radioactivity leaks into the environment from nuclear power plants across the U.S.

    “A major watchdog group, Beyond Nuclear, has long warned it is ‘not just accidental (‘unmonitored, uncontrolled’) leaks of hazardous radioactivity, but also ‘routine releases’ (supposedly ‘controlled and monitored’) allowed and permitted by government regulators as a daily part of atomic reactors’ operations, that need to stopped.’

    “Children are significantly more vulnerable to radiation’s hazards, as revealed by the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research’s ‘Healthy from the Start’ campaign.

    “’The entire nuclear fuel chain involves the release of radioactivity, contamination of the environment and damage to human health,’ says Beyond Nuclear.

    “The nuclear power industry inevitably violates human rights.”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Fukushima hospitals face financial crisis

    “Due to financial shortfalls, hospitals have been forced to reduce staff and cut services.
    “’Many of the hospitals had to limit the number of inpatients they accept due to the declining number of medical staff,’ said Kazuhira Maehara, head of the prefecture’s hospital association.

    ‘Compensation payments didn’t start until nine months after the accident. Unless something is done, it will be a long time before hospitals [in the prefecture] can resume operation.’…

    “’We don’t know how long we’ll be able to continue operating under the current circumstances,’ a hospital administrator said.”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Fukushima fallout chokes nuke industry

    “…It’s not clear how giants in the nuclear industry — GE-Hitachi, Toshiba-Westinghouse, Russia’s Rosatom and France’s Areva — will react to the crisis.

    “Experts are torn over whether the industry faces total collapse, a more modest decline, or diminished growth….”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Some Japan Nuclear Safety Panel Members Received Donations From Nuclear Industry-Report

    “Some members of the Japanese government’s neutral panel on nuclear safety issues received a total of about Y85 million in donations from nuclear power-related companies, the Asahi Shimbun reported Sunday.

    “Of the 89 who were full-time and part-time members of the Nuclear Safety Commission at the time of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident in March, 24 received the donations over a five-year period through March 2011, the report said.

    “The donations the members received were from nuclear reactor manufacturers as well as companies that the panel monitors, such as utility firms and nuclear fuel firms, the report said.

    “Separately, the Mainichi Shimbun reported Sunday that a deputy director at Japan’s industry ministry, when he was the head of the section in charge of nuclear power policy in 2004, ordered his subordinates to hide some data showing estimated costs of spent nuclear fuel

    “If the data, which indicated that reprocessing spent fuel was more expensive than simply disposing of such fuel, had become public at the time, it could have affected the debate at the time over the country’s plans to operate a nuclear fuel reprocessing plant in northern Japan, the Mainichi report said.”

  • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake many of them with pictures

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Jap. Reactor monitoring system fails nationwide for 24 hours – cause unknown

    “The Japanese government’s nationwide nuclear reactor monitoring system failed to provide data for at least 24 hours before being restored on Saturday afternoon.

    The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says that on early Friday afternoon a rapid reaction point near Shika nuclear power plant in Ishikawa Prefecture reported that all data from the Emergency Response and Support System was not showing up on its screens.

    The system monitors pressure, temperature, and other real-time conditions of reactors at nuclear power plants across the country, as well as radiation dosage in surrounding areas. The system also predicts future conditions of reactors based on such data.

    The information can be accessed from terminals at the agency and rapid reaction points around the country.

    The agency says its investigation discovered that a facility of the state-affiliated operator of the system was not transmitting any data for unknown reasons.

    But the system recovered without any grave result at around 2:30 PM on Saturday. The agency says it is looking into the cause of the problem and how long the system was out of operation.

    The agency says it regrets that important data became temporarily inaccessible. It also apologizes for a delay in the announcement.
    Sunday, January 01, 2012 00:28 +0900 (JST)

    • aigeezer aigeezer

      That’s an odd one B&B.

      Speculating wildly:

      1. Deliberate so plants can dump bad things with nobody watching?

      2. Hacker system attack from a pimply kid in a distant country?

      3. Little “oopsie” demonstrating that the protective systems are a sham to reassure the public but useless in practice? (Sort of like the old “locked aircraft cockpits” pre 9/11).

      4. None of the above?

      Whatever #4 turns out to be, it should be interesting.

      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        Hi aigeezer, very odd indeed.
        I personally wouldn’t want to speculate on “deliberate”, but it’s giving me an uneasy feeling to see that the WHOLE system can completely fail to function (so it’s running on “one switch” in the end) – and we’re talking about JAPAN!
        Technical masterminds!

        Secondly, the “delay in announcement” makes me speechless. Gives the impression that they wouldn’t have said anything at all if the system had failed only for a shorter period of time.

        *no nukes

  • lokay5 lokay5


    How about a link to that nuclear fracking?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Yesterday..Stock@Hawaii bought in some serious numbers ..uranium expelled from Fukushima…..I can’t find the link at the moment…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    typo…brought in…280 tons….I believe…she said as she wiped her slightly bleeding nose…(no joke)

  • A look back at some incredible footage of the tsunami as it hit California on March 11th !

    Live-Blog: Deadly Quake And Tsunami Rip Japan, Alarming Pacific

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      @Heart, that is SO disgusting! “coming from blooming algae” is a sweet paraphrase for what an english reader living in the area said on the Guardian:
      Until shortly ago, the nearby city of Blackpool was allowed to use the Irish Sea as a sewage plant – and after some time in stormy conditions the poop comes back as foam. Nice!

      Also, French beaches (Bretagne) have huge algae problems every year. The French farmers use huge amounts of fertilizers, which are carried into the sea via rivers and cause the algae to bloom.

      What it looks like:

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The poor,poor..Irish sea.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Sirach 26:5
    There are four things that scare me: vicious rumors spread around town, a gathering mob, false accusations—these are all worse than death.
    Jeremiah 51:46
    Do not lose heart or be afraid when rumors are heard in the land; one rumor comes this year, another the next, rumors of violence in the land and of ruler against ruler.
    Mark 13:7
    When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.

  • midwestern midwestern

    Markey interview on US nuke industry, after Fukushima, March 14th:

  • *PIC* English woman claims image of Jesus Christ appeared on washed sock

    Traditional face of Christ disappeared when sock was removed from line
    See comments !

    : )

  • midwestern midwestern

    New Year brings economic aftershocks to Japan:

    “…The World Bank estimated the economic cost of Tohoku to be 235 billion dollars, making it the most expensive natural disaster in history….”

  • 24 Nuclear Safety Commission members received 85 million yen of donation from nuclear companies

    The Nuclear Safety Commission, which has responsibility for the governance of the nuclear industry, has been involved in bribery.
    24 of 89 members, including the chairman Madarame Haruki, have received 85 million of “donation” from nuclear related companies or …

  • Just did a little neighbourhood walk and noticed all the cedar trees and hedges are turning brown, some dying.

    Anyone noticing this on the West Coast? (Canada, U.S.)

    This was talked about here on previously, but I missed the discussion: