FORUM: Discussion Thread for Jan. 17 – 23, 2012

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552 comments to FORUM: Discussion Thread for Jan. 17 – 23, 2012

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Oh God. UN/IAEA wants NOTHING TO DO WITH JAPAN:
    Tokyo wants an international seal of approval for the energy-hungry country’s nuclear industry, but has failed to inspire confidence.
    http://news.discovery.com/earth/japan-wants-un-iaea-in-fukushima-120123.html
    Let me get this straight. They built the Reactors in Japan (G.E.) but NOW are washing their hands of them!?!?


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    • arclight arclight

      actually it is quite funny that the iaea could set up permanent camp at daichi? lol! yeah! like that! but there reply to the request wasnt very promising! not too encouraging, not really very supportive either! :) i think a petition by the peoples of vienna to move IAEA hq to JAPAN.. specificly daichi! would show full support and raise the local jobs market too!!


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    • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

      OOPS, they forgot to mention the 6% energy surplus, ooh but the poor energy hungry country.

      From the assumption without all these data manipulations, the power had 6.0% of surplus even without power consumption restriction, which caused unnecessary traffic accidents and death from heat stroke of old people.

      Mr.Kusakabe, a cabinet councilor from National policy Uni says, they needed to be careful not to cause a power shortage, but Mr.Kajiyama, Prime minister assistant team member from Fujitsu research institute states, it was based on an extreme assumption to be beneficial for electric companies. It was also used by politician who want to re-start nuclear plants. Another assumption to estimate 6.0% of surplus could not be published in the confusion of the political situation.

      http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/power-consumption-forecast-was-a-lie/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+Diary%29


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  • Fire-breathing Water Dragon

    Will the legendary Dragon spearhead social and political changes and reforms, or unleash its darker side?

    THE active Dragon ushers in an energetic year characterised by movements and changes, and reforms in the political and social spheres, predicts renowned Hong Kong feng shui master Raymond Lo.

    Lo, who believes the Year of the Water Dragon is not a good year.

    “It will be marked by economic slowdown and an increase in epidemics and health risks involving …

    … “This Dragon year, the water element sits on the earth element; it’s ‘muddy water’ so this can create circumstances for the spread of viruses and epidemics,” says Lo. “The absence of the fire element is also unfavourable for people with heart problems.”

    Based on the flying star feng shui, …

    http://thestar.com.my/lifestyle/story.asp?file=/2012/1/23/lifefocus/10272580&sec=lifefocus

    This is an insightful reading


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  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    This is a duplicate post sorry but I though it would be better here if people had anything to add…

    All of us should put our heads together and come up with a list of demands the Japanese should make to their government. The government should make TEPCO provide information. The goal is transparency of the actions and decisions of the government, TEPCO and other agencies. If the demands are not met quickly the whole country should go on strike. For those Japanese not thinking they are impacted by this disaster they should realize they themselves may be only one earthquake away from having a nuclear plant near them melt down. Without demands being made and met now they will be mis-treated and neglected the same way.

    1) Copies of all meeting minutes regarding the crisis posted online and easily accessible.
    The minutes should be from March 11th until now and kept up to date.
    2) High quality cameras located on-site with views from all angles streaming live 24 hours a day.
    3) Radiation monitoring of the air, water and food whose goal is to protect people by allowing them to make informed decisions about where they are willing to live and what they believe is safe for them, their children and babies to eat or drink.
    4) Online maps of all sites where the byproducts of “decontamination” have been buried or stored.
    5) Detailed analysis and descriptions of the watersheds that feed into water supplies and the contamination levels within each watershed.
    6) Laws that protect people from food items being mislabeled as to their point of origin.
    7) A list of all sub-contractors being used by TEPCO, how many workers the subcontractor has on-site and what tasks are the to do.
    8) Immediate compensation to those impacted directly by this disaster such as the farmers.

    Please come up with some more and post them here on discussion thread. I will compile them into a comprehensive list.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      @enoughalready45: excellent suggestion…


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      • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

        Excellent idea enougalready..

        8) Set up a Japanese Citizen elected group capable of handling money.
        9) Reduce all politicians salaries & pensions by say 15%. This money is to be given to the Citizen elected group.
        10) Take the money that Tepco claims it took from its mangers & officials salaries.
        11) Have the Citizen Elected group also take control of the money that the government is using to build a resort in India.
        12) Find out who is funding the new Nuclear plant in India. (Are Tepco, its share holders or the Japanese government investing in it?)
        13) A complete through audit of the government spending. The Japanese can then redirect what ever is needed towards medical care, relocation, food needs ect.
        14) Ensure that there are no subsidies going to Tepco or any Nuclear Plants.
        15) *Audit to find out if any licenses are being given out to build or restart any Nuclear plants.
        16) Some money can be directed towards building greenhouses to start growing *safer food.
        17) Take control of the money for compensation & have the elected group ensure it is immediately given out.
        18) Immediately put a Stop to the proposed electricity price increase.
        19) Take control of money received from the energy surplus that the recent report shows exists.
        20) Set up a Citizen based news group that will be responsible for informing citizens of important radiation news ect.


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @enoughalready45

      #1, 3, 5, and 6 should apply to the U.S. as well.


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  • CB CB

    Here is a live seismograph link for Japan. It makes an alert sound when there is activity.
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nied4maps-test


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  • VanneV anne

    Hidden Dangers
    In Japan Reactor Failings, Danger Signs for the U.S.
    May 17, 2011

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/18/world/asia/18japan.html?pagewanted=2&ref=atomicenergy


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Hello all,

    For those who see fault in Ron Paul, see your choices also.

    Newt gingrich history:

    http://newtexposed.com/

    Mitt romney:

    http://www.salon.com/2012/01/20/the_roots_of_bain_capital_in_el_salvador/singleton/

    And of course the same old bush/obama political war liberty killing globalist agenda. Do we really want four more years of war for the contractors profits? More of the corruption that is killing America? More dead troops dying for the Oil/money god Empire?

    Maybe Ron Paul supports Nuk power plants, maybe he does not. What he will respond to is the problems when he can get to it after a sound round education about it all. EVERY ONE OF THESE OTHERS WILL NOT! Any other elected leader besides Ron Paul will only be the same ol same carelessness towards people and the worlds environment.

    Part of the multidimensional understandings must include education about this ongoing national emergency in japan. Who is most likely to do something about this entire huge world wide problem, and which one of these will take the GE and industry monies and kickbacks to keep perpetuating the nuk reactor problems in the usa?

    Ron Paul has NEVER taken any kickbacks.

    If mitt romney who is a main “retired partner” in Clear Channel Network were to tell the world the truths about what is really happening in japan, he might be a worthy leader. Since his networks are a major part of the worlds problem of the well espoused zio-media propaganda machine, he is just another globalist that uses the media to misinform and lie to the mass of minds in america and the world.

    WATCH THIS MOVIE!

    THE CALLING

    http://www.thecrowhouse.com/calling.html

    UNDERSTAND THE ZIONIST POPULATION AND REDUCTION AGENDA TO CONTROL THE IAEA:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/25/iaea-cries-wolf-over-iran-nukes/

    Do the homework, check the records of all these politicos and most of all, follow your heart! Radiation left unchecked and unregulated is the plan to kill us…


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      @James: good thoughts. I agree with you on Ron Paul. I’ve told others that it’s likely he’ll not be the cat’s meow on every issue. But then, who has been? Unlike what we’ve been privy too these last thirty years, I’d rather risk someone at the helm who understands the rule of law.

      Again, thanks for your post…


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    • VanneV anne

      Dr. Jill Stein running on the Green Party ticket is the only candidate who is anti-nuclear energy. The only sane candidate in my opinion. She is also the only candidate for the 99%.


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    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      @ James Tekton… I can’t hold back any longer. There is a lot more to be known about Ron Paul than the plain fact that he opposes war. This is not a political blog, so I will restrain myself from going into more detail. TPTB (Illuminati Clan) will never let him become President anyway, so there is no point in be-laboring the many reasons he would not be the panacea for which you are looking.


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @James Tekton

      James, I believe you are preaching to the saved. :>)


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    • VanneV anne

      Unfortunately Rom Paul is part of the Illuminati. Just watch his Illuminati hand signals. He is their catch all to win those who are in opposition. Look at Obama and the change he brought. Just more of the Bush administration, but even more repressive. Political control is orchestrated in concrete. We just get to vote for whoever we think is the lesser evil. But are out votes accurately counted. With the advent of computer voting the counting of the votes is rigorously controlled. The person who runs the computer company has bragged that this is so.


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  • VanneV anne

    I don’t know where the post was on the solar storm to respond to it. Anyway, thanks for the info.
    Real-Time Magnetosphere Simulation:
    http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/


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  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    Did any of us really think the 1% would stick around waiting to get cancer?

    Russia wants to build either a space base on the surface of the Moon itself or a space station that closely orbits the heavenly body – and has planned talks with NASA and the European Space Agency about creating the manned base.

    The Moon plans form part of the Global Exploration Roadmap [PDF], an international plan for the human exploration of space. The roadmap’s ultimate aim is human exploration of Mars.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/23/russia_nasa_moon_station/


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Nuclear Power in the US:A Rigged System:
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/01/23/nuclear-power-in-the-us-a-rigged-system/
    “The nuclear power program in the United States was set up rigged—to allow the federal government to push atomic energy with state and local governments “pre-empted” on most issues.

    That’s what the State of Vermont was confronted with last week as a federal judge blocked the state’s attempts to shut down the accident-plagued Vermont Yankee nuclear plant.

    But there’s a way around this federal nuclear fix—the use by states of their power of “eminent domain.” That’s a legal principle going back centuries and is how, commonly, states condemn property for a highway right-of-way if the owners refuse to sell.”


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Energy Advocates: State Nuclear Cost Recovery Bill is Unconstitutional:
    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/01/energy-advocates-state-nuclear-cost-recovery-bill-is-unconstitutional.html

    “The state law that has allowed Florida Power & Light and Progress Energy to charge customers $1 billion so far for speculative nuclear power plants is unconstitutional, a group of energy advocates claims in a lawsuit before the state’s highest court.

    The Southern Alliance for Clean Energy is asking the Florida Supreme Court to throw out the 2006 law and reverse a decision by state regulators who have allowed the companies to charge customers for upgrading existing nuclear power plants and for the pre-construction costs of building new nuclear power plants that may never be built.

    “State-sanctioned monopolies are using this nuclear-tax scam as an entitlement to extract money from consumers,” said Stephen A. Smith, executive director of the Southern Alliance for Clean Energy. “This a really bad deal for the consumers of Florida.”


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Report Cites Water Quality Concerns Near Nuclear Plants:
    http://plymouth.patch.com/articles/report-cites-water-quality-concerns-near-nuclear-plants

    “Tuesday, local environmentalists will join representatives from MASSPIRG Education Fund and Environment Massachusetts Research and Policy Center to release a new report that includes data on how nuclear power threatens the state’s drinking water.

    The official report will be released at noon, Tuesday, Jan. 24 at the Lobster Pound in Manomet. The press conference will include comments from MASSPIRG’s Patrick Nagle, Mackenzie Clark of Environment Massachusetts, Anna Baker of Pilgrim MUST, Mary Lampert of Pilgrim Watch and Pine Dubois from the Jones River Watershed Association.”


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Iowa utility board analysis gives nuke power plan opponents more ammunition:
    http://easterniowagovernment.com/2012/01/23/iowa-utility-board-analysis-gives-nuclear-power-plan-opponents-more-ammunition/

    DES MOINES – Opponents of a plan that would shift the financial risk for building a proposed new nuclear power plant from MidAmerican Energy shareholders to the utility’s consumers say an analysis of the plan by the Iowa Utilities Board supports their arguments.

    In its memo, the IUB lays out several ways House File 561 “not only fails to protect consumer interests but that the proposed changes to Iowa law would actually create incentives for utilities to behave in a manner contrary to public interests, according to AARP, a leading opponent of the bill.

    “It’s worse than failure to protect,” said Anthony Carroll of the AARP. According to the IUB analysis, he said, the bill would “change the rules of the (ratemaking) game, setting precedent that would extend beyond nuclear power.”


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  • wideawake wideawake

    23/24 Jan. (NaturalNews) “Late last night, NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory observed a massive “ultraviolet flash” emitted from the sun, which has turned out to be the largest solar radiation storm since 2005. This M9-class coronal mass ejection (CME) is expected to hit earth today at 9 am EST, and could cause widespread communications interference and damage to electrical systems and structures”.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/034748_NASA_space_weather_solar_flare.html#ixzz1kMxOG04B


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  • Bobby1

    The CME can also cause electrical currents in the ground and interact with underground corium.


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