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  • lam335 lam335

    “How would you like to have a time machine that could take you back anywhere over the past 300,000 years? . . . Well, scientists have such a time machine. It’s called an ice core. Scientists collect ice cores by driving a hollow tube deep into the miles-thick ice sheets of Antarctica and Greenland (and in glaciers elsewhere). The long cylinders of ancient ice that they retrieve provide a dazzlingly detailed record of what was happening in the world over the past several ice ages….

    In April 1986, Russia’s nuclear power station at Chernobyl exploded, killing 250 people and sending radioactive fallout around the world. Less than two years later, as the graph indicates, scientists detected Chernobyl radioactivity in snow at the South Pole–a graphic reminder of how small our planet is. In cores from Antarctica and Greenland, researchers have pinpointed the beginning of atomic-bomb testing in the mid-1950s. They have also identified a spike representing fallout from stepped-up atmospheric testing that took place just prior to the 1963 Test Ban Treaty, which allowed for underground tests only. In the years following 1965, by which time some 90 countries had signed the treaty, Antarctic snow revealed a sharp drop in radioactive fallout….”

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/warming/stories/


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  • lam335 lam335

    Notice–they were detecting that stuff in the SOUTH Pole. Sadly, there’s no ultimate escape from this stuff.

    But at least there’s a permanent record of human folly, so even if we utterly destroy ourselves, if anybody comes after us, they will be able to see how mortally foolish the human race was.


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  • VanneV anne

    KAHLILI: Iran already has nuclear weapons
    Western intelligence has known it for years
    October 27, 2011
    “The pressure the United States and the West is bringing to bear on Iran to keep it from acquiring nuclear weapons is all for naught. Not only does the Islamic Republic already have nuclear weapons from the old Soviet Union, but it has enough enriched uranium for more. What’s worse, it has a delivery system.
    “The West for nearly a decade has worried about Iran’s uranium enhancement, believing Iran is working on a nuclear bomb, though the government maintains its uranium is only for peaceful purposes…..”
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/27/iran-already-has-nuclear-weapons/


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  • VanneV anne

    What The End Of Nuclear Power Would Actually Mean For The World
    http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-03-16/markets/30004282_1_nuclear-energy-nuclear-plants-nuclear-electricity

    End the nuclear age
    http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/campaigns/nuclear/

    New Worldwatch Institute Report, Timed in Conjunction with Chernobyl Anniversary, Shows Nuclear Industry Was in Decline Even Before Fukushima
    http://www.worldwatch.org/end-nuclear


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    • lam335 lam335

      That Business Insider article contain the same fallacies as most discussions about nuclear.

      1. It states “coal, natural gas, and nuclear are the least expensive sources of electric generation, and renewables tend to be more expensive,” but it ignores the fact that the government provides a significant amount of funding to support nuclear

      2. It also focuses only on the actual operation of the nuclear plants, and ignores the fact that nuclear energy actually has quite a large “carbon footprint” once you consider the full fuel cycle (mining, transport, and processing of uranium, as well as reprocessing and/or disposal of used fuel).


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  • VanneV anne

    Gulf War Syndrome-Killing Our Own (Trailer)
    Uploaded by TheGaryNull on Apr 6, 2007
    “After the Vietnam War, hundreds of thousands of U.S. veterans suffered toxic reactions, neurological damage, and rare cancers due to exposure to 2,4,5,-D and 2,4,5-T dioxin that was used in the form of the defoliant Agent Orange. Unfortunately, the U.S. military denied the problem and failed to heed any of the lessons of this chemical butchery. Instead, it expanded its harmful legacy to the current generation of soldiers and civilians exposed to new, more deadly chemical toxins in the Persian Gulf. Join accomplished filmmaker Gary Null, PhD, as he explores the real truth about Gulf War Syndrome and the secrets about chemical and germ warfare that the U.S. government is hiding from its veterans and the public. Dr. Null uncovers the hidden truths about Gulf War Syndrome, including the deadly and toxic effects of armor-piercing radioactive depleted uranium, the use of experimental and risky vaccines on over 100,000 U.S. troops, and the indescribable chemical contamination and environmental devastation that the military caused during the Persian Gulf Wars. In this film, Dr. Null relies on compelling testimony from eyewitnesses who served in the military, leading doctors and scientists who specialize in chemical exposure, and those veterans still suffering from the effects of their tours of duty. Dr. Null goes further than ever before to explain the illnesses of Gulf veterans, including their rare cancers, neurological diseases, cardiac ailments, genetic mutations, and autoimmune conditions, ranging from chronic fatigue syndrome to lupus and scleroderma. “Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome” is the glib and demeaning explanation that the U.S. Government likes to give to injured veterans and their families. By revealing the truth about how and why American soldiers became ill while fighting overseas, this film sets the record straight and holds the government accountable for trivializing…


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    • VanneV anne

      [cont.]
      “By revealing the truth about how and why American soldiers became ill while fighting overseas, this film sets the record straight and holds the government accountable for trivializing and covering up some of the major causes and consequences of Gulf War Syndrome. This film is also a scathing indictment of the practices and policies of modern warfare, and how they are causing massive illnesses that have never been seen before and which do not recognize political or geographic boundaries.”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=MWLjXDtAvAY


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  • VanneV anne

    GULF WAR SYNDROME SEVERE DEFORMITIES
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BerJOj4hJbU&feature=related

    agent orange victims
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=expjgL94y8A&feature=fvwrel

    The Horror of Agent Orange: WARNING: Disturbing Images
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXt9hHEFu8

    Vietnam Soldiers Still Suffer From Agent Orange
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=65KFpyxK0Ho

    Pete Seeger: Where Have All the Flowers Gone?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y2SIIeqy34


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  • Jebus

    Activists ‘Halt’ India Plant
    October 30, 2011

    Two months before it was due to generate 1,000 MW of electricity – and after costing by some estimates $3.1 billion – India’s Kudankulam Nuclear Plant has had regular work on it virtually halted as a blockade of roads by protesters continues.

    For months, a coalition of activists from Australia, Germany, the Scandinavian countries and Canada have swarmed across the 27 villages in Kudankulam. A few locals (interestingly most of them Christians) have joined in with the protests, which have been called over claims by environmentalists that there’s a risk of a disaster at the plant that would make Fukushima look like a picnic.
    The Catholic Church in India, in particular, has a long tradition of its clergy getting involved in anti-nuclear activities, and Kudankulam appears simply a continuation of their allergy to India going the nuclear route. It’s an attitude that for decades has been shared by the bulk of the international community, notably China, the United States and EU, all of which have sought at points to pressure India to downsize its nuclear programme.

    In fact, the Kudankulam nuclear power plant (which when all units were operating was expected to generate 4,000 MW of power) is touted by Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) scientists as being one of the safest in the world. They point to a host of safety features, including a ‘core-melt catcher,’ which in the event of a core melt would catch the fuel in a massive tank of water. There’s also an innovative filtering system to sift out any debris in the seawater used for cooling the reactor, and a 5 kilometre ‘sterile zone’ around the reactor where population growth will be restricted…

    http://the-diplomat.com/indian-decade/2011/10/30/activists-halt-india-plant/


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    • midwestern midwestern

      Nuclear workers still worry about their health:

      http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleynewsdispatch/s_764644.html

      While the federal government established a program to pay some of those hundreds of thousands of workers who labored — many unknowingly — in private businesses and government laboratories handling dangerous nuclear materials, it has not been enough.

      Many of those workers were exposed to high radiation levels and other contaminants that caused cancers and a host of illnesses.

      So, the federal government established the Energy Employees Occupational Illness Compensation Act (EEOICPA) program a decade ago to pay sick former workers a lump sum payment of $150,000 and coverage of related medical expenses.

      Read more: Nuclear workers still worry about their health – Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleynewsdispatch/s_764644.html#ixzz1cEf8pFtc


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  • lam335 lam335

    They’re at it again:

    “High levels of radiation detected in Tokyo’s Setagaya, link to Fukushima unlikely”

    “The science ministry said it had detected 170 microsieverts per hour of radiation on the surface of a sidewalk near a supermarket in Tokyo’s Setagaya Ward in the early hours of Oct. 29, but it said there was little possibility of the radiation coming from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant.”

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111029p2a00m0na021000c.html

    More radium bottles? Maybe there’s a ton of brazil nuts buried under the sidewalk?


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  • lam335 lam335

    “Another radioactive spot not related to Fukushima”

    “Alarm has been voiced by residents of Setagaya Ward in Tokyo who live near highly radioactive spots that are not related to the nuclear disaster in Fukushima.
    [...]
    The ministry suspects radioactive material underneath the asphalt caused the reading, but that it is unrelated to the nuclear disaster in Fukushima….”

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/29_23.html


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    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

      That type of disinformation article cracks me up, as well, though you may not be laughing. I have a particularly sardonic sense of humour. “radioactive hotspot…something buried in the asphalt” (OMFG, how stupid do they think we all are!!! oh yeah, pretty stupid, we haven’t revolted yet)


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      • midwestern midwestern

        But, Pallas, truly it may be something buried underneath the asphalt…like, maybe the hundred some workers that went missing from the Fuku Dai sight awhile back…


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Just how much more do nuclear veterans need to prove?:
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/voiceofthemirror/2011/10/30/just-how-much-more-do-nuclear-veterans-need-to-prove-115875-23524746/

    For 10 years the Sunday Mirror has exposed the treatment of our nuclear-test veterans as one of this country’s greatest scandals. Now a Ministry of Defence survey confirms it.

    Successive governments have treated the vets with contempt by refusing to accept that they were terribly damaged by being deliberately exposed to atomic blasts in the 1950s.

    The new survey shows that eight out of 10 have multiple illnesses and 75 per cent fear their health was affected when they were used as human guinea pigs.


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    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno

      Wweeeeel. Unfortunately, we can look to other examples of those poisoned by the super-criminal greed adventures of billionaires: Agent-orange contamination of Vietnam fame, first-responder illnesses related to asbestos and other contaminants, also unaddressed, from 911. There are too many examples of how the status quo is regular and predictably never going to act, increasingly, as we go further and further away from the beginning of the industrial tech era toward the future. Of course, full overthrow of the despotic billionaire greedy scum is required and is not optional as a choice.


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Japan govt. likely to okay Tepco aid package this week:

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/10/29/japan-government-likely-to-ok-tepco-aid-package-this-week/

    TOKYO (Dow Jones)–The Japanese government is expected to approve financial assistance to Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501.TO) this week, after the embattled utility sought about Y1 trillion in public funds Friday to deal with compensation claims from the disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

    The government’s objective is to keep the company afloat. Without public funds, Tepco would have to report a capital deficit for the July-September quarter, results of which are due by Nov. 14. Even the slightest hint of bankruptcy of a company with Y13 trillion in liabilities could trigger major financial turmoil.

    Public assistance is expected to sustain Tepco in a state of positive net worth of around Y700 billion at the end of the current business year in March, even after booking an expected annual net loss of about Y570 billion.


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    • lam335 lam335

      Why do they always think they have the keep the huge companies afloat after they have royally screwed up? Yet when that screw up damages the health and property of private individuals, they seek every means to limit the ability of those individuals to seek compensation.

      Let the big companies pay for their screw ups, even if the ultimate cost must be the dissolution of the company. Let the government protect the rights of the people to not have their health and property damaged by irresponsible companies.

      The way governments protect huge (rich) companies from the consequences of their own bad choices while it throws private individuals and their property rights under the bus is disgusting. It is the exact reverse of the relationship that ought to prevail between citizens and their government.


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Events put focus on nuclear power–in Japan and locally:

    http://www.reformer.com/localnews/ci_19220352

    BRATTLEBORO — Award-winning filmmaker Hitomi Kamanaka will visit Windham County next week to provide first-hand insight and experience following the massive earthquake and nuclear incident in Japan.

    On Wednesday, starting at 7 p.m., at the Latchis, Kamanaka will make a presentation on the discoveries and the events following the aftermath of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear disaster earlier this year. It will also cover what the past six months have been like since the catastrophic earthquake damaged the nuclear facility.

    The exhibit, “The News that is Not in the News” was prepared by Keiko Kokubun, of Salisbury, and highlights the suffering and struggles of the people of Fukushima, she said.


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Energy CEOs urge court to end nuclear waste fee:
    http://energy.aol.com/2011/10/25/energy-ceos-urge-court-to-end-nuclear-waste-fee/
    A Department of Energy fee that costs nuclear power utilities some $750 million a year should be suspended because a nuclear-waste program the fee is designed to pay for does not exist, opponents said in a new court filing.

    The National Association of Regulatory Utility Commissioners and the Nuclear Energy Institute, a policy organization for the industry, urged a Washington DC appeals court to order the DOE to stop collecting the fee for the federally mandated Nuclear Waste Fund which grows by about $1 billion a year and is expected to total $28.3 billion by the end of fiscal 2012.


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    • lam335 lam335

      Are these the same power companies that frequently charge their rate-payers extra to pay for the construction of new reactors/plants that may or may not actually get built?

      And yet, the waste problem remains unresolved, and it DESPERATELY requires a solution, as it is a grave threat to our national security and safety.


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Judge refuses to charge demonstrators at Occupy Nashville, video:
    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=8877


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Mongolian core to Russia’s nuclear bid:
    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/MJ29Ad02.html

    Over the last two decades, Russia has aggressively exploited and leveraged the nuclear legacy of the Cold War competition between the United States and the Soviet Union.

    In places like Kazakhstan, Canada, Niger, Australia, the United States and Mongolia, Russia’s (AtomRedMetZoloto) Uranium Holding Co or ARMZ is seeking to dominate worldwide uranium production.

    The United States – which counts the Russian reset as one of the few unambiguous geopolitical wins – is apparently happy to turn a blind eye to Russia’s uranium ambitions.


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    • arclight arclight

      Tony Blair adds Kazakhstan to his growing list of business clients By Robert Mendick, Chief Reporter

      9:00PM BST 22 Oct 2011

      “Tony Blair may have lost one dictator friend with the death of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. But he need not despair. He has found another autocrat to do business with in the guise of Nursultan Nazarbayev, the president of oil-rich Kazakhstan.

      Mr Blair’s spokesman has admitted that the former prime minister had set up an ‘advisory group’ to implement economic reforms in Kazakhstan, a country ruled over for the past 20 years with an authoritarian grip by Mr Nazarbayev.

      The deal, according to one source familiar with the deal, is worth as much as £8 million a year although Mr Blair’s spokesman denied the amount. “

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/8843606/Tony-Blair-adds-Kazakhstan-to-his-growing-list-of-business-clients.html

      July 12, 2006

      UK Prime Minister Tony Blair has so far only managed nice words on global warming while ignoring effective action on real solutions. Now he has chosen the dangerous, expensive false solution of nuclear power. This seals his true legacy – huge amounts of nuclear waste that will last for millions of years.

      Back in 2003 the UK government rejected nuclear power in an energy review, correctly stating that the massive investments required to build new nuclear power plants would mean no money to invest in renewables and energy efficiency.

      But the powerful, well-connected nuclear industry wasn’t going to take that lying down. They threw huge amounts of money into a PR campaign claiming that nuclear energy was going to save the world from climatechange and provide energy security. And right on cue, Tony Blair started talking like a nuclear energy lobbyist.”

      http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/features/blairnuclearreview120706/

      things that make you go hmmmm??


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  • arclight arclight

    BREAKING…NORWEGIAN GOVERNMENT (remember recent fair and balanced headline?) SUPPORTS NUCLEAR THORIUM WHILE LETTING GO NEXT GENERATION RENEWABLES…THANK YOU BANKSTERS!!

    REC publishes Q3-Zahlen – Norway production is permanently stopped

    Kjørboveien, Norway – the Norwegian solar enterprise Renewable Energy corporation ASP (REC) published its quarterly report for Q3 2011. The conversion sank by twelve per cent compared to the previous quarter on three billion Norwegian crowns (NOK). The EBITDA amounted to 370 million NOK, compared with 871 million in the second quarter. A billion NOK in net cash from the operational business and the debts were gained were reduced by 1.5 billion to 5.3 billion NOK. REC announced besides that the supervisory board had decided to adjust the cell and wafer component production in Norway permanently which had been adjusted in the third quarter first provisionally.

    http://98.139.168.220/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=de_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.iwr.de%2fnews.php%3fid%3d19837


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    • arclight arclight

      Norway and Thorium. Wednesday, July 18, 2007

      “However, it is a very big accelerator that will be needed to do the job, and the estimated costs for the project are about 500 million Euros. There are various advantages cited for this type of reactor, including the claim that it can be stopped easily if things get out of hand, and that it produces less long-lived nuclear waste than the uranium-fuelled fission reactors that are currently in common use. However, there are a whole host of scientific and engineering challenges that need to be overcome, and even identified in the first place because nobody has ever built one of these reactors, and hence the plans are still only on the drawing board.”

      And this

      “Nonetheless, there is likely to be resistance to the research and development of a brand-new technology based on thorium, in view of huge costs that will effectively be borne by the Norwegian taxpayer if they go it alone down this unlit path.”

      http://ergobalance.blogspot.com/2007/07/norway-and-thorium.html

      seems to have gone a bit low profile that halden thorium test reactor in norway dont ya think mmmm??


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  • arclight arclight

    “Currently approximately 50.000 Tons/Year of Uranium is being used within 438 Nuclear Reactors all over the world. There are, 539 Generation III and Generation III+ Reactors of which 52 Reactors are under construction while 143 Reactors are being planned and the remaining 344 Reactors have been proposed. These new Reactors are being expected to start operation gradually until 2030 and a considerable number of these Reactors are being designed compatible with the Thorium Fuel Cycle Technology. In the world, the Thorium stocks are not being reported publicly. The known or estimated stocks are in USA, INDIA and CHINA.”

    “This table includes only those future reactors envisaged in specific plans and proposals and expected to be operating by 2030. Longer-range estimates based on national strategies, capabilities and needs may be found in the WNA Nuclear Century Outlook. The WNA country papers linked to this table cover both areas: near-term developments and the prospective long-term role for nuclear power in national energy policies.”

    And a cool chart outlining uranium sales worldwide….a right eyeopener seeing it laid out like this considering the amount not being sold since fukushima and hold ups in the usa, Germany and Switzerland, japan a large consumer of uranium !! wow the industry must be reeling!!

    http://www.minormetal.com.tr/thorium.html


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  • midwestern midwestern

    Japan closer to exporting nuke technology to India,Vietnam:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204528204577007712071441558.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
    TOKYO—Nearly eight months after the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident, Japan is resuming steps it hopes will lead to exports of commercial nuclear technology to India and Vietnam, even as Japan itself is scaling back the use of nuclear energy at home.

    On Saturday, Foreign Minister Koichiro Gemba and his Indian counterpart, S.M. Krishna agreed to move ahead with talks toward a civilian nuclear power agreement—a precondition that would enable Tokyo to export nuclear power plant technology to the South Asian nation.

    Meanwhile, Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda and his Vietnamese counterpart, Nguyen Tan Dung, will likely discuss nuclear power cooperation when they meet Monday, a government official said. Japan has already signed off on talks toward a nuclear power pact with Vietnam, but the parliamentary approval needed to ratify the agreement has been put on hold.

    More insanity.


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  • VanneV anne

    After 50 Years, Nuclear Power is Still Not Viable without Subsidies, New Report Finds
    http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/nuclear-power-subsidies-report-0504.html

    Nuclear Subsidies: $7.1 billion a year, excerpted from the book: Take the Rich Off Welfare, by Mark Zepezauer and Arthur Naiman, Odonian Press, 1996

    “Reprocessing fuel rods
    “Nuclear power plants create radioactive waste. Naturally, the government feels that it’s our responsibility as taxpayers to take this waste and either reprocess it into new fuel rods or find some place to store it for the next 10,000 years or so. Let’s talk about reprocessing first.
    “Argonne National Laboratory (outside of Chicago) used to operate an enormously expensive facility for separating plutonium, uranium and the like from spent nuclear fuel rods, so that these elements could be used in new fuel rods or nuclear weapons. In 1994, Congress killed funding for that, but the same sort of reprocessing is still taking place in Idaho, at an annual cost to us of $25 million. And Argonne is still getting $25 million a year to terminate its program.
    “The Savannah River site in South Carolina was originally used for weapons production. As a result of that activity, several square miles of land are so badly contaminated that human beings will probably never be able to use them again. This site is now used for reprocessing spent and corroded fuel rods, and may reprocess foreign fuel rods as well. This new business is going to cost us $340 million a year.”
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Corporate_Welfare/Nuclear_Subsidies.html


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    • VanneV anne

      [cont.]
      “Their waste-our responsibility
      “A place like Savannah River naturally brings the subject of waste to mind. Nobody wants nuclear waste stored in their state, so Congress picked a place in Nevada, a state with little congressional clout. Called Yucca Mountain, it’s the least stable site of any considered to date, with 33 known earthquake faults in the area.
      “Work on Yucca Mountain can’t proceed until the Supreme Court rules on a law Nevada passed that prohibits the storage of nuclear waste in the state. Yucca Mountain’s planned opening has been moved back from 1998 to 2015, but we’re still being charged $250 million a year just to study the situation.
      “If Yucca Mountain does go ahead, it will cost us $33 billion-some say $40 or $50 billion-to build the facility, transport radioactive waste to it from all over the country, and seal the waste into thousands of containers. Meanwhile, there are no long-term storage sites for nuclear waste (and Yucca may never be one either).
      “The nuclear industry is lobbying hard to build a vastly inadequate short-term storage facility above ground at Yucca Mountain. Their eagerness is explained by the fact that once they turn the waste over to Uncle Sam, it’s our problem, not theirs. The Public Interest Research Group (PIRG) says that this whole boondoggle has the potential to turn into “the S&L bailout of the Nineties.”
      “Yucca Mountain is supposed to be financed by the Nuclear Waste Fund, which is generated by charging utility customers a fee of 1/10 ¢ per kilowatt hour for nuclear-generated power. But in its thirteen years of existence, the fund has never been adjusted for inflation, which has cut its purchasing power by 45%.
      “There’s another catch: The funds come from existing reactors, and no new ones are on order in the US. As the old reactors are retired, the fund’s revenues will decline and ultimately disappear, leaving taxpayers holding the bag.


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    • VanneV anne

      [cont.]
      “And there’s another problem: Money in the fund is currently being used to pay for interim storage, which depletes the amount available for Yucca Mountain (or whatever long-term storage site is eventually decided on). If everything remains unchanged, the Nuclear Waste Fund will fall $4-$8 billion (in 1995 dollars) short of the money it needs, according to the DOE and the State of Nevada….”
      http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Corporate_Welfare/Nuclear_Subsidies.html

      Nuclear power plants are receiving government subsidy money for interim storage of radioactive waste.


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  • midwestern midwestern

    NNSA Raises Nuclear Security Questions with Los Alamos:

    http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2011/10/30/blogs/nm-science/nnsa-raises-nuclear-security-questions-with-los-alamos.html

    Los Alamos National Laboratory has repeatedly missed deadlines to fix nuclear safety problems, according to two September letters to the lab from federal managers.

    The letters suggest no immediate nuclear dangers. But they raise questions about a number of systems intended to reduce risk, most importantly procedures intended to prevent what are called “criticality” accidents — inadvertent nuclear chain reactions.


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  • StillJill StillJill

    “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
    — Margaret Mead


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  • westcoastguy westcoastguy

    Good morning everyone. Hope all is well :D


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  • Scientists find link between magnetic reversal and tectonic plate movements

    Oct 30, 2011
    The Earth’s magnetic field is produced by the flow of liquid iron within its core, three thousand kilometers below our feet. What made researchers think of a link between plate tectonics and the magnetic field? The discovery that convective liquid iron flows play a role in magnetic reversals: experiments and modeling work carried out over the last five years have in fact shown that a reversal occurs when the movements of molten metal are no longer symmetric with respect to the equatorial plane. This “symmetry breaking” could take place progressively, starting in an area located at the core-mantle boundary (the mantle separates the Earth’s liquid core from its crust), before spreading to the whole core (made of molten iron). Extending this research, the …
    http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/scientists-find-link-between-magnetic-reversal-and-tectonic-plate-movements/


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    • VanneV anne

      Xdr, do you think the magnetic reversal starting to happen now was responsible for the red aurora borealis in Arkansas recently?

      NASA scientists who monitor the Sun say that our star’s awesome magnetic field is flipping — a sure sign that solar maximum is here.
      http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/

      The Secret Lives of Solar Flares
      http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/19sep_secretlives/

      600 Mysteries in the Night Sky
      http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/18oct_600mysteries/

      NASA Claims Earth Pole Shift 2012. Isaiah 24
      http://formerthings.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/nasa-claims-earth-pole-shift-2012-isaiah-24/

      Giant Breach in Earth’s Magnetic Field Discovered
      http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/16dec_giantbreach/

      What would happen if the magnetic field of the Earth suddenly changed?
      http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q279.html

      Reversals: Magnetic Flip

      “This is one reason why some people believe the field may be in the early stages of a reversal. We also know from studies of the magnetisation of minerals in ancient clay pots that the Earth’s magnetic field was approximately twice as strong in Roman times as it is now….”
      http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/education/reversals.html


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      • Hi anne, hope your well,
        Yes, I have been following this for a few years, this new hypothesis in enlightening ! All the volcano and earth quakes of late seem to be making their ideas easy to see !
        Yes we knew it was late, at the door so to say !
        Is it getting chilly there ?
        You have some winter food crops growing in your Green house’s yet, no ?


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        • VanneV anne

          xdr, it was 14 or 18 degrees at night a couple of nights ago. Even my warm weather crops haven’t gotten cold enough to freeze. The cold weather crops all germinated and are growing slowly except for the daikon radish (I’m eating greens already) and the burdock root which are really growing quickly.

          The snow, it looked like a foot, knocked down branches and the electricity was out for 12 hours. It is almost all melted now. I might get a solar generator when I can afford it. Off the Grid advertizes one.

          I am covering anther 4′ by 12′ raised bed and will move my black raspberries there. I already have two plants there for a couple of years. The birds drop seeds and make new plants.


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          • anne, 14 or 18 degrees, … My teeth chatter long before then, lol. Yummy, you have my mouth watering with the greens, Sounds really good. Are the roots similar as potatoes texture ? I think I ate these in China many times with meals my stays there !
            Someone may think the angel birds you have planting berry crops would be a fairy tale ! … sh*t ! LOL
            Amazing you do so much and can be here so much for all of us too ! The solar sounds great, I will have to go to the site and look into what they have compared to the ones I have, could always use more power !


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            • VanneV anne

              Daikon radish is a large, long white radish. You can grow it as a microgreen, or a sprout. I got a pound of organic seeds for sprouting on amazon.com. It is whiter than parsnip, and tastes like a radish. You can find pickled daikon radishes at a health food store. However, coming from Japan, I would no longer buy them in the store. I also saw fresh daikon radishes in the produce section of my health food store this summer. We get lots of Japanese vegetables and food in Colorado.

              It’s not really cold in Colorado until 10 below zero or colder. You just wear lots of warm layers of clothing, even a face ski mask and special boots.


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      • VanneV anne

        “The Sun’s magnetic poles will remain as they are now, with the north magnetic pole pointing through the Sun’s southern hemisphere, until the year 2012 when they will reverse again. This transition happens, as far as we know, at the peak of every 11-year sunspot cycle — like clockwork….”
        http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/


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        • About 4 years ago I was watching a horror movie that was in a forest in Germany and the actor said to his friends it was 13 degrees off polar north, ? so I started looking into these things, turned out to be true !
          Then is when I say that NASA had found the magnetic hole a few years prior ! Few years ago said it had “grown a lot” when rechecking it !


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  • Someone asked for some ART on here, well …

    Japanese Banana Art
    NTV’s “ZIP!” morning show introduces Keisuke Yamada, a man who has become famous all over the world after uploading photos of his banana sculptures to the internet: …
    http://www.japanprobe.com/2011/10/29/japanese-banana-art/


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  • VanneV anne

    10/29/2011 — Series of large scale ash eruptions occurring at Sakurajima Volcano in Japan
    From: dutchsinse | Oct 28, 2011 | 10,600 views
    http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse#p/u/0/1Ejf-oXL74c

    “Recently, the Japanese agency which monitors Sakurajima Volcano in Japan, issued an elevated alert for the area around the volcano — the threat of a large scale eruption (with damaging pyroclastic flow / ash fall).

    “Eruptions occur daily at this location — this is a rather large eruption of ash from the main caldera. Recent activity at the volcano has caused a NEW vent to steam behind the main caldera which erupts in this video.

    “Mirrored with permission from:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aVWEUif0uY&feature=ch… (less info)


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  • VanneV anne

    10/28/2011 — NASA launching the new NOAA weather satellite — watch now — LINK BELOW
    From: dutchsinse | Oct 28, 2011 | 5,275 views
    http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse#p/u/4/kXzCA0A1smE

    link to watch is here: http://www.nasa.gov .. click on NASA TV ..

    here is a link about the NPP polar weather satellite:

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/NPP/main/index.html


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  • VanneV anne

    10/30/2011 — Last 14 days of earthquakes @ Yellowstone (wyoming, idaho, montana, utah)
    http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/


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  • Thousands rally for Fukushima compensation, decontamination
    Oct. 31, 2011

    Thousands of people angered by Japan’s nuclear power plant accident rallied in Fukushima on Sunday to demand full compensation for victims of the crisis, and swift decontamination of their neighborhoods.

    The rally in Fukushima city, some 60 kilometers from the plant, was attended by around 10,000 people, its organizers estimated.

    “Our town should be decontaminated at the earliest possible date and our life should be restored as it was before March 11,” Tamotsu Baba, mayor of Namie town, told the rally …

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/thousands-rally-for-fukushima-compensation


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  • Monju chief says fast breeder reactor project to shift focus
    TOKYO (Kyodo) — The Japan Atomic Energy Agency, which runs the trouble-hit Monju prototype fast-breeder reactor in Fukui Prefecture, will shift the project’s focus on research from the current goal of generating power with a fast breeder reactor, its president has indicated.

    In a recent interview with Kyodo News, JAEA President Atsuyuki Suzuki said the plan to build a demonstration fast breeder reactor and subsequently a commercial one after Monju “will find it hard to be understood …

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111031p2g00m0dm004000c.html


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  • Japan to boost embassy staff in Ukraine with nuclear experts
    TOKYO (Kyodo) — The Japanese government plans to increase personnel at its embassy in Ukraine, especially with nuclear experts sent to learn from steps taken after the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear catastrophe for Japan to consider in dealing with the Fukushima nuclear crisis, government sources said Sunday.

    Expanding embassy staff is necessary as closer ties with the former Soviet republic are important amid international concerns about the safety of nuclear power and as Japanese lawmakers and government officials in growing numbers visit the country to learn …

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111031p2g00m0dm005000c.html


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  • Powerful earthquake hits off northeastern Taiwan
    TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — A powerful earthquake has struck off northeastern Taiwan, but there were no immediate reports of casualties or damage.

    Taiwan’s Central Weather Bureau says the quake registered magnitude 6.5, while the U.S. Geological Survey puts it at 5.5.

    The earthquake struck Sunday morning at sea, about 88 miles (141 kilometers) east of the Taiwanese county of Keelung. …

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/international/news/20111030p2g00m0in027000c.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keelung


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  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Do you know of any testing or modeling of contamination in the Southern Hemisphere, especially South America? My family is unconvinced that they would be better off.


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  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    If you care to,,,


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  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    Hello, if you care to, please read and rec my post at dailykos.

    As I mailed it out to friends, I said (at almost 79 yrs w/..)..this may be my Magnum Opus!

    If youcare and you are on os


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  • Jebus

    Sorry Arclight, You and the rest of your citezens are going to be paying for this… :(

    Sellafield waste plant closure could cost taxpayer £100m
    Japanese will not have to pay decommissioning costs, senior executive at nuclear power plant says
    2011-10-31 00:00:01.0

    Taxpayers will be expected to pay the full costs of closing down and decommissioning a nuclear fuel plant at Sellafield which was built to provide plutonium-uranium mixed oxides (Mox) fuel to foreign power companies.

    A senior Sellafield executive has reassured Japanese customers that they will not have to pay the expected £100m costs of decommissioning the Sellafield Mox Plant, in Cumbria, which was closed in August because of Japan’s “anticipated” cancellation of orders as a consequence of the Fukushima incident.

    When a new nuclear power plant is decommissioned, the costs are supposed to be met by a levy on electricity companies but because the Sellafield Mox Plant is not new and was operated by the now-defunct, state-owned British Nuclear Fuels, the decommissioning liabilities fall to the British Government, said Andy Dawson, group commercial director of Sellafield Ltd.

    “The costs of decisions to close the Mox plant … will thus ultimately be paid by British taxpayers,” Mr Dawson said in a letter to the Japan Times….

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sellafield-waste-plant-closure-could-cost-taxpayer-100m-6255007.html


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  • Jebus

    This was bound to happen with all of the temporary workers there…

    Crane accident at nuclear plant
    October 31, 2011

    Two men were injured on Saturday at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan, while assembling a crawler crane.

    The men were installing the crane’s back mast using another crawler crane, The support crane was lifting the back mast vertically in order to place it into its pivot points on the superstructure when the slings appear to have slipped or given way, dropping the mast onto the two men.

    One of the two was airlifted to hospital for an urgent operation, so far no details of his injuries have been issued. The second man was treated on site and then taken to a hospital in Iwaki City.

    http://www.vertikal.net/en/news/story/13477/


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  • Jebus

    This is the first time I have ever cheered for lawyers!

    Lawyers launch Fukushima compensation team
    October 31, 2011

    Japanese lawyers on Sunday launched a legal team to help victims of the Fukushima accident seek compensation from the plant’s operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co, and the national government.

    About 30 lawyers, mostly based in the northern Fukushima region, announced at a news conference in Fukushima city that they had set up a new legal advisory team.

    In a statement, they vowed to help victims including those engaged in tourism, agriculture and dairy farms whose business has slumped due to fears of radiation from the plant.

    A similar team of about 30 lawyers, mostly based in southern Fukushima, was already inaugurated on October 16 as they had been asked for legal advice on compensation from “hundreds” of victims, according to their leader.

    The statement said that the team will initially assist some 50 people in demanding Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) and the government fully compensate them, restore their business bases and rebuild their neighbourhoods.

    The number of their clients is expected to grow, the statement said….

    http://www.brecorder.com/general-news/single/599/172/1247418/


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  • Jebus

    Again another discussion thread is closing.
    It has been a crazy week of the truth being told, finally.
    The light is finally starting to shine on the sheeple grazing in the radioactive rain.
    The people of Japan are discovering their fate.
    We are discovering our victimized past.
    When will it gell into one coherant voice?
    Will it ever?
    Until then, never second guess your sanity.
    Never let them change you from who you are.
    Never give up. Never give in.
    So, I leave here to get back to the nightmares of reality.
    And serve up one favorite from the Dark Side.
    Peace to you all, Cherish the ones you love.
    Enjoy…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY


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  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    And then there is this:

    The Tears of Sanriku(三陸の涙).

    Nothing very new to those of us paying attention, just further corroboration.


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Compendium of useful information
    Hi enenewsers, I’d like to share a link from one of the greatest sites I’ve seen (besides ENE that is, ha!).

    “Access to 2 gigabytes of information about sustainable and resilient living that meets the challenges of peak energy, climate instability, economic irrationality, toxic politics, war and violence.”
    http://www.notechmagazine.com/2010/09/compendium-of-useful-information.html

    *peace


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  • Sickputer

    For our suicide bombing mission Bruce Willis and I will be staying in different quarters than what Tepco is currently providing for their slave workforce:

    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111031p2a00m0na009000c.html

    Excerpt:
    “Workers battling the crisis triggered by the March 11 Great East Japan Earthquake and tsunami had earlier been based mainly at an earthquake-proof building on the premises of the nuclear plant, but that facility became crowded, so Toshiba Corp. constructed a shelter just outside the complex’s west gate in May. In August, Kajima constructed a shelter just south of the Toshiba facility.

    The area within the plant compound, including the quake-proof facility is listed as a “zone subject to radiation management” but the shelters do not have this designation. TEPCO says the radiation level in the Toshiba building ranged between 2 and 16 microsieverts per hour as of Oct. 7, while the Kajima facility had a radiation level of 2 to 8.5 microsieverts per hour. A stipulation in the Industrial Safety and Health Law on the prevention of health damage through ionizing radiation sets the limit for accumulated radiation dosage in radiation management zones at 1.3 millisieverts over three months. By hour, this works out at 2.6 microsieverts, but both shelters have shown higher levels.”


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