FORUM: Effects of low level radiation

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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    The international radiation protection community interprets the hazard from low level exposure, by relying on a theory of radiation effects which was developed prior to the discovery of DNA in 1953, and the revolution in molecular and cellular biology which followed.

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    A Primer in the Art of Deception
    The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science
    by Paul Zimmerman


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    You can’t underestimate the importance of public relations when you are trying to dump radioactive material on people [the transcript noted laughter at this point], and we worked at it strenuously.

    Oliver R. Placak – Nuclear Safety

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    A Primer in the Art of Deception
    The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science
    by Paul Zimmerman


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    Flawed thinking is the foundation upon which current models of radiation protection are built.

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    A Primer in the Art of Deception
    The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science
    by Paul Zimmerman


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    A “hot particle”, a particle composed of a huge number of radioactive atoms, acts as a point source or hotspot, perpetually
    emanating radiation to the same critical cellular molecular structures in their immediate vicinity throughout the time they are retained within the body.

    The hot coal analogy is similar.

    Being warmed by a fire is different from swallowing a
    hot coal, though the same amount of energy might be transferred.

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    A Primer in the Art of Deception
    The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science
    by Paul Zimmerman


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  • from a distance from a distance

    Dr. Ernest Sternglass explains how ow dose radiation is more dangerous than realized:

    "And the nature of this curve is such that if you
    decrease it by 10, the risk per millirad goes up tenfold. If you
    go down another 10, the risk keeps going up, and therefore we
    have a strange situation that the weaker the radiation intensity
    is, the more deadly it is, and nobody anticipated this and
    present radiation standards do not believe in this and have not
    accepted this because it goes against the existing regulations,
    which govern all uses of radiation everywhere, and nobody wants
    to touch this, although the BEIR Committee of the National
    Academy called attention to it years ago in the earlier report,
    BEIR III, and, so, we now find that we have a situation where we
    have far greater health effects than we ever thought."

    http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/radiation/dir/mstreet/commeet/meet12/trnsc12a.txt

    credit to "unincredulous" for the link


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    • from a distance from a distance

      LOW DOSE

      >> In the same document, Dr. Sternglass explains how Strontium90 causes miscarriages

      "Strontium 90 damage to the mother's immune system … causes
      her to reject the fetus as a foreign object."

      >> Also this important revelation:

      "…the National Cancer Institute did a study in 1990, which was so arranged and the methodology used in such a way that it was practically guaranteed to find no effects around 62 nuclear facilities"


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      the above paper goes on to describe the incredible number of unethical tests of radioactivity on civilians and military, and the government secrecy and cover up. Surely a psychopathic lot and theres no indication they are any different today


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  • from a distance from a distance

    "The evidence that radiation from nuclear reactors causes childhood leukemia"

    Quoting Dr. Fairlie:

    “The core issue is that, world-wide, over 60 epidemiological studies have examined cancer incidences in children near nuclear power plants (NPPs): most (>70%) indicate leukemia increases. I can think of no other area of toxicology (eg asbestos, lead, smoking) with so many studies, and with such clear associations as those between NPPs and child leukemias. Yet many nuclear governments and the nuclear industry refute these findings and continue to resist their implications. It’s similar to the situations with cigarette smoking in the 1960s and with man-made global warming nowadays.”

    http://safeenergy.org/2015/04/29/the-evidence/


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  • from a distance from a distance

    Chernobyl survivor Bonnie Kouneva observations from Chernobyl in Bulgaria:

    * vegetables were burned and brown
    * lettuce grew 3-4 sizes bigger
    * for the next few summers, observed strange changes in baby animals = stillborn, organs and limbs in multiply numbers such as animals born with 5 legs 2 heads, missing parts
    * 1988- animals born with sex hormones for both male and female
    * the problems and mutations get worse year-after-year
    * babies born at that time had bone problems, skin problems, respiratory problems
    * the gov't continued to deny the effects of radiation
    * the gov't encouraged people to eat contaminated food
    * MEANWHILE, the gov't itself had deliveries of food from New Zealand for them and their families
    * her son was diagnosed with Downs Syndrome, mentally retarded; she has thyroid problems and immune problems

    Since Chernobyl and in Bulgaria and in the whole area, the percentage of genetic diseases, stillborns, miscarriages, cancers, respiratory problems, tumors, thyroid problems, bone problems, blood problems, etc. have skyrocketed.

    In Bulgaria's biggest hospital, miscarriages and genetic illnesses are so common it's considered like a flu, that almost everyone experiences, and it's not normal and it's not easy. It's a huge huge tragedy.

    Most of people who contributed in original Chernobyl cleanup are already gone.

    http://www.nuclearhotseat.com/2551/


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  • from a distance from a distance

    NuclearHotSeat interviews Dr. Janette Sherman:

    Libbe: Cancer is exploding exponentially since the 1940's; now 41% are expected to get cancer

    Dr. Sherman–>

    * there is a direct relationship between cancer and nuclear power plants
    * cancer is not randomly distributed
    * great deal of research showing increases in cancer by nuclear power plants
    * childhood leukemia higher in proximity to nuclear power plants
    * childhood leukemia higher in proximity to British isles
    * terrible hypothyroidism in Marshall Island children exposed to fallout
    * Joe Mangano did a study on thyroid cancer in the U.S. And the highest cancer rate for thyroid cancer is found in U.S. Eastern Pennsylvania, downwind from Three Mile Island
    * fed gov't is doing nothing
    * congress is never going to do anything

    Advice: Mobilize your neighborhood to close any nuclear power plants that are within 200 miles of where you live. Speak up. “We've got to stop this madness”

    http://www.nuclearhotseat.com/2551/

    #2


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  • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

    “…Frequent nosebleeds may mean you have a more serious problem. For example, nosebleeds and bruising can be early signs of leukemia. Nosebleeds can also be a sign of a blood clotting or blood vessel disorder, or a nasal tumor (both cancerous and non-cancerous)….”
    http://familydoctor.org/familydoctor/en/diseases-conditions/nosebleeds.html


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  • from a distance from a distance

    "Low dose radiation more deadly due to ‘bystander effect’ on adjacent cells"

    "…low dose radiation is all the more dangerous because it does not kill the targeted cell, but allows its influence to spread widely to adjacent cells, thus multiplying the radiation effect (about 100 fold)"

    http://foodfreedomgroup.com/2012/05/28/low-dose-radiation-more-deadly-due-to-bystander-effect-on-adjacent-cells/


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  • from a distance from a distance

    "Breast cancer and nuclear power – statistics reveal the link 'they' wanted to hide" Chris Busby, 18th May 2015

    "The link between nuclear power and cancer is real, writes Chris Busby, and revealed in the UK's cancer statistics – if only you look for it. Previous approaches have focused on rare cancers over large, poorly selected populations. But look at common cancers among those most exposed to nuclear radiation, and the statistical evidence is overwhelming."

    http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2869395/breast_cancer_and_nuclear_power_statistics_reveal_the_link_they_wanted_to_hide.html

    #2


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  • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

    Radiation Fears Are Real
    By Helen Caldicott on November 1, 2013
    To the Editor, New York Times:
    Re “Taming Radiation Fears” (Op-Ed, Oct. 22):
    “David Ropeik, a specialist on risk perception and risk communication, plays down the mass of scientific and medical literature that amply demonstrates that ionizing radiation is a potent carcinogen and that no dose is low enough not to induce cancer.
    “Large areas of the world are becoming contaminated by long-lived nuclear elements secondary to catastrophic meltdowns: 40 percent of Europe from Chernobyl, and much of Japan.
    “A New York Academy of Sciences report from 2009 titled “Chernobyl” estimates that nearly a million have already died from this catastrophe. In Japan, 10 million people reside in highly contaminated locations.
    “Children are 10 to 20 times more radiosensitive than adults, and fetuses thousands of times more so; women are more sensitive than men.
    “Radiation of the reproductive organs induces genetic mutations in the sperm and eggs, increasing the incidence of genetic diseases like diabetes, cystic fibrosis, hemochromatosis and thousands of others over future generations. Recessive mutations take up to 20 generations to be expressed.”
    HELEN CALDICOTT
    Bermagui, Australia, Oct. 23, 2013
    http://www.helencaldicott.com/radiation-fears-are-real/


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  • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

    “This report offers data on the prevalence of thyroid nodularity among children in Nevada and Utah exposed to nuclear fission products containing iodine-131 and among a group of nonexposed children. The possible relation of nodularity to fallout radiation is discussed. Limitations in the interpretation of these data are discussed and conclusions are presented.”

    THYROID NODULARITY IN SOUTHWESTERN UTAH SCHOOL CHILDREN EXPOSED TO FALLOUT RADIATION
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1530660/pdf/amjph00737-0030.pdf


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    • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

      Wyakin
      May 20, 2015 at 12:38 am
      “new cases…unlikely a direct result of the nuclear accident…"
      Desperate minimization.
      Observed health effects after Chernobyl provided further evidence ICRP models are in error.
      Thyroid cancer is rare. An epidemic of thyroid cancers among the young broke out in affected Soviet territories, 102 times greater than before the accident.
      Japan is demonstrating the health effects of Chernobyl were not an anomaly.
      An epidemic beyond the purview of ICRP risk models.
      Chernobyl refuted the prevailing propaganda that a latency period of at least 10 years was required between exposure and symptom.
      The ICRP risk factor for thyroid cancer after radioiodine exposures, based on the fatally flawed Holm study, was shown to be absurd by the increases in thyroid cancer after Chernobyl.
      “Unwarranted Conclusions from the Holm Radio-Iodine Study
      Reality–An Epidemic of Thyroid Cancer:
      In great contrast to the…statements which claim that no excess thyroid-cancer occurred in the Holm Study, and therefore the slow delivery of dose from iodine-131 must account for this unexpected result, it turns out (1) that a huge excess of thyroid-cancer occurred in the Holm Study, and (2) that the results of the study have not been clearly revealed.”
      “Radiation Induced Cancer from Low Dose Exposure,” Chapter 22, Gofman, 1990
      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/CNR/RIC/chp22.html#part5
      Contrary to government and industry proclamations, all nuclear pollution is a…


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  • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

    I think there is a link between radiation exposure which causes genetic and other damage to the brain and psychopathy. There are already studies on links between Down's Syndrome, autism and ADHD and lowered IQ with radiation exposure.

    Weaker brain links found in psychopaths
    Decreased communication between emotional and executive centers may contribute
    November 30, 2011
    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/weaker-brain-links-found-psychopaths

    An underlying cause for psychopathic behavior?
    “…Psychopaths are known to be characterized by callousness, diminished capacity for remorse, and lack of empathy. However, the exact cause of these personality traits is an area of scientific debate. The results of a new study, reported in the May 2010 issue of Elsevier's Cortex, show striking similarities between the mental impairments observed in psychopaths and those seen in patients with frontal lobe damage….”
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100427091723.htm


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Well, I guess if we are under the impression that these psychopaths are the ones running things..then they seem to be pretty fixated on the acquisition of more precious/money.

    Pretty sure the ones in jail were the ones that were caught.. and all the others..are now living the highlife!

    Maybe the non psychopaths are the true minority based on what we are seeing out here..


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    See..the scam is everywhere and it's all about acquiring more precious..we must have more precious.

    The basis of the the entire economic engine guarantees these results every time.. :(
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3088097/FTC-Family-raised-187M-cancer-spent-themselves.html

    Turnover any rock private or government and one will find the same behaviors.


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      I should be a crook and raise enough to pay off my student loans,about 50,000 bucks should do it…. buy a new truck, a house, a boat, a Xbox, a gps only need maybe 400,000 thousand…a motorcycle, a yacht a cruise ship…damn they had it bad. Probably found the cure for cancer too. They sent it back to momma in a cardboard box


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  • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

    rogerthat
    May 21, 2015 at 10:06 am Log in to Reply

    http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20150521p2a00m0na002000c.html

    Court recognizes 2 cataract patients' symptoms as A-bomb related

    HIROSHIMA — The Hiroshima District Court on May 20 recognized two of four A-bomb survivor plaintiffs as having cataracts caused by exposure to the A-bomb, reversing a national government decision.
    According to the ruling and other sources, the plaintiffs were four people between 70 and 84 living in the cities of Hiroshima and Higashihiroshima who were from 1.3 to 3 kilometers from the hypocenter of the Hiroshima atomic bomb blast at the time of the attack. By 2008, all had applied for recognition of their cataracts as caused by their exposure to radiation from the bombing, and all were denied. In December 2013, the standards for recognizing diseases as caused by A-bomb exposure were renewed, but the plaintiffs were turned down again.

    In the plaintiffs' suit, arguments centered around whether or not the plaintiffs' cataracts were caused by the atomic bomb and whether they required medical treatment.

    One plaintiff, Toshiko Naito, 70, of Asaminami Ward, Hiroshima, was around 2.4 kilometers from the Hiroshima blast hypocenter. The court recognized her cataracts as related to her exposure to radioactive rain.

    Another plaintiff, Toshio Okada, 80, of Naka Ward, Hiroshima, was about 1.5 kilometers from the hypocenter. …


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  • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

    Bystander effects in radiation-induced genomic instability
    Mutation Research 504 (2002) 91–100
    “Abstract
    “Exposure of GM10115 hamster–human hybrid cells to X-rays can result in the induction of chromosomal instability in the progeny of surviving cells. This instability manifests as the dynamic production of novel sub-populations of cells with unique cytogenetic rearrangements involving the “marker” human chromosome. We have used the comet assay to investigate whether there was an elevated level of endogenous DNA breaks in chromosomally unstable clones that could provide a source for the chromosomal rearrangements and thus account for the persistent instability observed. Our results indicate no significant difference in comet tail measurement between non-irradiated and radiation-induced chromosomally unstable clones. Using two-color fluorescence in situ hybridization we also investigated whether recombinational events involving the interstitial telomere repeat-like sequences in GM10115 cells were involved at frequencies higher than random processes would otherwise predict. Nine of 11 clones demonstrated a significantly higher than expected involvement of these interstitial telomere repeat-like sequences at the recombination junction between the human and hamster chromosomes. Since elevated levels of endogenous breaks were not detected in unstable clones we propose that epigenetic or bystander effects (BSEs) lead to the activation of recombinational pathways that…


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    • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

      cont.
      perpetuate the unstable phenotype. Specifically, we expand upon the
      hypothesis that radiation induces conditions and/or factors that stimulate the production of reactive oxygen species (ROS). These reactive intermediates then contribute to a chronic pro-oxidant environment that cycles over multiple generations, promoting chromosomal recombination and other phenotypes associated with genomic instability. “
      http://raraf.org/journal/mr-504-91.pdf


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  • from a distance from a distance

    @3:55 Leuren Moret discusses TRITIUM

    - Tritium as a gas is dangerous, but it's the least dangerous form of Tritium

    - Tritium attached to water is 25,000 times as bad as gas

    - Tritium attached to a protein is 125,000 times worse than gas, biologically

    - Tritium has a very long biological half life

    - Tritium causes INFERTILITY

    ME: Tritium is ubiquitous in U.S. water. There is a huge infertility problem in the U.S.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6OYlc2LqZg


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  • from a distance from a distance

    credit to orwell for finding these:

    [1] "This study provides strong evidence of positive associations between protracted low-dose radiation exposure and leukaemia"

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanhae/article/PIIS2352-3026%2815%2900094-0/abstract

    [2] Press Release, June 12, 2015 – "Even low doses of radiation increase risk of dying from leukaemia in nuclear workers, says IRAC"

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1616198051959149&set=a.1378980989014191.1073741827.100007069086339&type=1&theater


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Clang… Clang… Clang…

    #3 was three warning bells, for 3 reactor meltdowns, on 3/11, in oh so many ways…

    California Hospital Sees Trio of Triplets Born in June

    Dr. Steven Elliott says he can't remember in his 30 years as a neonatologist when he has had a trio of triplets under his care. He says all nine babies were born by cesarean section and are doing well.

    The newspaper reports that another mother who's expecting triplets in late August is receiving care at the Fresno hospital.

    Triplets occur in about 120 of every 100,000 live births in the country.

    Four thirty years. It all adds up… :|


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  • from a distance from a distance

    Quoting Dr. Busby –>

    "The risk model and the health effects of low doses of internal ionizing radiation are the biggest public scandal in human history and everybody will suffer as a result of this cover up by the nuclear lobby and by its friends in high places. And in fact I have to tell you at the moment there is some evidence that it has very very powerful friends in high places. One of these for example, the ex-head of the International Commission on Radiological Protection (this is the outfit that created this risk model that says everything is safe) this man is now the medical officer of health for Sweden. Isn't it astonishing? It would be a laughing matter if it weren't so tragic.

    I don't know quite what one has to do in order to penetrate this glass barrier between the truth, the scientific truth, and now what we see is the published evidence in scientific papers, in peer-reviewed papers, between this barrier and the people who actually make policies in this area. It doesn't seem possible to break through…how many people have to die before somebody will take notice?"

    continued…


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    • pure water

      " This study powerfully contradicts the views of ill-informed and inexperienced journalists (including the UK writer, George Monbiot) and self-styled scientists who argue that radiation risks are over-estimated and even that radiation is somehow good for you. Hormetic effects are neither found nor discussed in this study: such irrelevant effects are regarded by real scientists as beneath their consideration. The impressive list of contributing scientists and their national institutions here should serve to make radiation risk deniers reconsider their views. This is particularly the case for US risk deniers, in view of the many US agencies and US scientists backing the study."
      You can find a link to the study in the article.


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  • PraisingTruth PraisingTruth

    Low Level Radiation Causes Premature, Accelerated Aging, Chronic Diseases In Young, Increased Premature Deaths
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/12/low-level-radiation-causes-premature.html


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