Published: February 5th, 2013 at 12:00 am ET
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The previous Fukushima Webcam Discussion Thread can be found here: http://enenews.com/fukushima-webcam-discussion-thread
This thread is for discussing matters related to the webcam(s) at Fukushima Daiichi.
UPDATE (via Nuckelchen): “Please note the ‘jst’ time of your observation. Also, describe as best as possible, what you see. Using North, South, East, and West to describe locations. Be specific whenever possible. This may sometimes be the ONLY record we have of such events.”
Webcam Video Archive:
Watch the JNN/TBS feed here: http://www.youtube.com/user/tbsnewsi/featured
Direct Link to Tepco Webcam: http://mfile.akamai.com/127380/live/reflector:51361.asx
Alternative Direct Link: http://mfile.akamai.com/127380/live/reflector:52045.asx
Published: February 5th, 2013 at 12:00 am ET
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Sound of an alarm on TBS News-sham?
Almost like an alarm clock. ?…
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yape,
the fools on the hill
(as we named the tbs camera crew up there on their stupid hill)
take it easy at last.
sounds like a cheapy china builded fake of a casio watch,
hehe….
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they using the "Grey-Day" filter so… can't see much of any details.
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i had reposted the unlucky upload of my bad tasted "nuckyshoped" picture (…from the visit of curie hitler on fukuplant).
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread672665/pg1363#pid15831349
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HA!… hehehehehehe!!!!!!
LOVE IT!
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here's my entire library link.. I don't know if it will just let folks browse….
http://s1280.beta.photobucket.com/user/Pattie_Brassard/library/
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try it out.. let me know.
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Very Nice. Thanks.
Bookmarked it.
I did finally see your 'Missing' along with the drawn in part.
I have a better understanding now.
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ya,
but i'm photonuckeled…
i must me log out before, okay one more time…okay, boths enterings of your link follows the same side of your photobucket
what's with rename it in "Pattie_B/library/"?
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there's like 6 as some from my machine… others direct transfer from FB
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I have 3 different ADMIN "Tags" in FB… and only my main one can transfer direct. Can only use one FB ID for transfer.
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fb=fuckbook?!
fb saves every posted picture from a member on their own servers.
radical saying but clear as well:
WITH ENTERING THE UPLOAD-BUTTON ON FACEBOOK YOU WILL GIVES ALL RIGHTS OF THE UPLOADED MEDIA TO FB!!!
and please explain what it is, "my machine"?
u robot?
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My local area network… is 6 computers here.. router – firewall… cable modem… then out to the web.
So, keep copy of all here at home on file server and on my desktop system.
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cable modem=plug-in of a router into the telephone-net
firewall=virtual wall against hacks=software based
router=the only one of your "my machine" that has a regular ip and that is known as an ip-machine in the www
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six computers or 6 billions of computers, they all need the same log-in data for log-in
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didn't we had talked about ur photobucket acount?
but i could chiefelchen your fb too:
when you will have different id's at fb,
delete all and make a new one.
it could be happened when you just had updated your browser or something else.
but fb is much more personal as photobucket i would say.
TO LOG IN ON PHOTOBUCKET WITH YOUR FACEBOOK LOG IS LIKE YOU WILL SHOOT UR HEAD WITH A GUN.
because then you loose all rights for every upload, done in the name as you are…!
if then searches a copyrighter for his rights and he will find one of his babys on your fb-side=BANG!
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i'm not such an expert as i sounded here.
but we all together, we should so carefully go as we can with all what we do here on web.
so longer other ones will having something of it.
yeah,
freestyle-translated
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the only IP addy they have is my cable modem and… if they any good?… they have my router IP. It's like a computer in a way… with hard-drive and a firewall (hardware) then each computer has 2 different firewalls (Software) with entirely different IP addy on them, and multi-operating systems.
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I'm a computer geekette/consultant… and electro-mech tech. Read my Linkedin CV.
Pattie L. Brassard
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sorry
but "read my linkedin cv" sounds for me like bart simpsons
"eat my shorts".
i am also a bitly to tired to translate me the term "geekette".
because for what?
i am not an expert.
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http://www.linkedin.com/pub/pattie-brassard/14/114/199
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@PattieB, I see by your profile you trained on the Hawk missile system at Ft Bliss. Many many yeas ago I trained there on the Nike system. Is El Paso still as awful? (Sorry if I offend any Texans.)
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Typo: years, not yeas, or maybe that was a Freudian slip?
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yes.. it's dismal up on the hill in the summer.. as the buildings are still in use from the 50's! The contrast across the river… where it's just shacks with a single water spout for the town at one end of a side lane… is just so sad. They work on our side for as little as 8.00 cash a month, or did back in 84 when I was there.
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Here's a funny… did you know it's illegal to put 15 of them in the back of a Toyota pickup? I used to run a sort-of taxi service after hours… making mall runs for a dollar per head!
hehehe.. got a ticket for that! and almost buckled a tire on corner once as well!
Ah… to be young and crazy again!
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Isn't it strange… the things one remembers on reflection of days past.
I ate off-post mostly… connived my way into William-B as the food they served was lots better… or, find a reason to be over in school battalion area at last formation time!
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Got plenty of practice with dealing with sand-storms there though! Spent too many hot days out @ W-Sands…
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Yes.. Nike was long-gone by my time… we were Hawk/Patriot/Vulcan battalion. Started at 1st ADA… then moved to 11th ADA
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A giant fish-like object.
The crane has 'gone fishing' again.
2013-01-30 11:40 jst
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Nah!… it's more a shell-fish item! Works like a lobster claw! Funny thing…? It's the color of a lobster only after it's been COOKED!
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ya,
verry funny thing.
for what i had spend the last hours here?
or there?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread672665/pg1363#pid15832935
if someday someone will asking after a member called nuckelchen,
………………….!
@ admin:
………………………….
loel
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WHO>….!?????
I don't recall any person of such a name…. ( whistles… looks around….) That it? Can I go now?
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lol, that was good
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Ohhh..I want to play the white dot game..
Jan 23 2012.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm32icfnnAw
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It is not just the fish like object hanging. And this is going on for at least 3 days. Today the cranes holding these objects had signal lights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeM9Om94fhY
And they hang like this for hours. The fish like object in its upper part emits light from time to time. I am still on the idea of measurments based on emiting some kind of waves, which travel through otherwise invisible parts of objects and when recieved the changes of this wave can give information about the structure and physical condition of the inner parts of something. X rays and many other instruments work like this.
Of course I can be wrong, and I do not mind it, but it will be stupid not to share with who might be interested.
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still moving the burnt rods from out of the shared pool I see… it'll take awhile… 6500 of them.
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Curiously, no daily report from TEPCO for yesterday (30th) so now it's technically two days late. We'll see if they post it with Thursdays.
Tuesday's (29th) contains mostly just gibberish. I'm not certain if this is a cultural/language thing or intentionl obfuscation, but they can say the simplest thing in so many sentences at the end you have no idea what you just read.
I'm tending on obfuscation. Basically it says Unit 3 PCV gas control system was suspended for three hours for duct-work. But it's stretched over bout four paragraphs, complete with footnotes and multiple repeats.
28th's daily report has some slightly interesting stuff, though. For those who've been following, TEPCO announces quite frequently suspending fuel pool cooling for repairs and maintenance. One side effect is we get the pool heating rate (according to TEPCO, anyway, up to people whether they choose to belive it… but they're the only numbers we're getting).
Anyway, the word is Unit 3 pool cooling is stopped from Monday morning to Friday ("to remove a steel beam preventing the removal of steel beam", which presumably explains some of the activity around Unit 3, although why exactly this requires suspending cooling isn't given). Their estimate for expected pool heatup is 0.16C/h. Last time I checked their estimates to reported results, their estimate was around twice the real heat-up. But going with estimate, this is 3.84C per day, or 19.2C for 5 days (probably 4, but it's…
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…probably 4 days, but the announcement is vague enough that I'll go with 5. With starting temperature given as 9.1C, this gives 9.1C + 19.2 or 28.3C (which would be slight fever on a human) as maximum temperature. Weather forecast gives outdoors night temperature today as 2C, so the pool could be 26.3C warmer than air which would probably be enough for some mist. The maximum temperature allowed is 65C (two weeks to reach at their estimated rate, three to boiling), so according to TEPCO this is perfectly safe.
However, curiously enough they then state that the cooling system will be operated during nights anyway. It's not clear if the 0.16C/h increase accounts for this. I'm guessing the eventually announced real heat-up will be significantly less, though.
However, they're also reporting on temporary suspension of common pool cooling. To be honest, that paragraph goes again into the obfuscated land, where it's impossible to tell if the whole cooling system was suspended or only part of it. However, according to the report during the 55 minute operation the pool temperature rose from 11.5C to 12.4C. This is 0.825C/h and if we assume there was still some residual water movement, the common pool heating could be as high as 1C/h. That's huge compared to the other pools, and at that rate the pool would indeed start boiling in four days tops if cooling was suspended, which is bit faster than I expecte.
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And about the ongoing discussion here – many of the things are beyond my technical competence and I do not participate in this arguments for that reason.I am nobody from nowhere who does not believe in saving lives, just in sharing information, which can help someone (probably). And "safety first"!
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http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2011/1277/report/OF11-1277.pdf
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Just keep saying it… there is no fallout in the US… there is no…
AND SMILE!!!
If your happy, it can't hurt you!
We simply need to recycle all of the hi-rad waste metals into new government office buildings… and all will be well!
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Amazing document. Thanks.
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I don't know what to make of this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URXiETyYq-Q
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That is the mother of all radar anomalies! Thanks for posting Pattie.
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So… is today pick-a-nick day on mount Radspewfour…? Lots or walking about. No crane movement. Burnt-hand syndrome or what?
Did our noticing them tossing the rods out of the shared pool get them some bad press again..!??
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Doesn't the wreckage on R3 look blacker than it used to? I mean the right end of the junk on top. Or am I seeing things again?
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It does have a charred look. I see what you mean.
Live view at:
2013-01-31 15:32 jst
It could be shadows. (?)
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I know we have spent several days now..chasing after a fire that may or not have occurred.in the CSFP..
I do agree that there were several fires through time.
Can we move on now?
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Flip..here it is ..IMHO… fire at the CSFP.
Finally Recriticallity
Jan 1 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQtaJBtsqtI
I'll leave others to their compression issues.
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+1
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thanks for rebooting me on the lyrics from your posted video.
THATS what i'm doing here…hehe
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..hehe..behind softly smiling eyes.
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….snuurrr..
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thanks HOTR… ok that does look like smoke/steam could/might be coming from the vicinity of CFP…I retract my comment of no evidence of a fire whatsoever.
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I don't know if this will help you all to see what's changed.
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Maps%20Info/Important/Exiibit_A_zpse6cc4a30.jpg
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http://sccc.org.au/archives/2630
record (GIFTED! vital1
January 31, 2013 at 6:36 pm · Reply
It appears I may be tracking what is happening at Fukushima.
Here is a Twitter of a 2012 monthly average radiation level chart for Fukushima city, showing the increasing radiation levels there.
http://twitter.com/tadagonpapa/status/279540046502170624/photo/1
Interestingly, it mirrors the monthly chart recorded at my location in the Southern Hemisphere. Obviously at my location it is at a lot lower levels, but both chart curves are very closely tacking each other.
This is last year 2012 monthly average chart at my location.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Caloundra-monthly-average-background-radiation-levels-for-2012.jpg
This is January 2013 month average. It is 52% above the pre Fukushima monthly average. The highest monthly average I have ever recorded here. If I am correct, and it is tracking, then there have been large releases of Radiation at Fukushima in January.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Caloundra-monthly-average-background-radiation-levels-for-2013.jpg
It would seem if something major has happened at Fukushima, I appear to detect it using this very detailed data collection process.
Full historical records can be found here,
http://sccc.org.au/archives/2630
PattieB January 31, 2013 at 7:05 pm · Reply
WAY TO GO!… Seem odd… it matches every single event I've put forward that involves the shared pool…
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OK, Pattie. I am looking into fires and smoke coming from CSFP. Couple of days. Will get back on this soon.
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Hi PhilipUN, good luck untangling this one. What roof was gone is back as far as I can tell; not sure what when went missing. Who knows.
Nuckel's 12/30 vid shows something but … in this debate uncertain of the perspectives in question of what we are actually looking at in vids ref'd as proof. I can't tell.
Also … one of Tepco's plans is to place bunker wall in the common pool to separate newly removed fuel from already stored fuel. And shouldn't there be some 2 year heat decay rate factored in that greatly reduces or makes unlikely the zirc cladding fire risk. (Both from simplyinfo; easy to search from there and noted you already quoted from their research).
Looking forward to hearing from you.
A little traveling music for all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HmJQyS8QVw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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There's a risk of zirconium fire for at least 100 years after removal from reactor, if air or water circulation is blocked. That's the bad news.
The good news is that the "residual heat" (highly radioactive isotopes in fact) does drop exponetially with time, such that according to TEPCO's estimate Unit 3 SFP would take about 3 weeks to boil, and much more to boil dry.
Of course, another large earthquake or other disaster happening during those 100 years is all but certain. At least I hope they will have removed the intact fuel assemblies by then, but the slow progress on the debris cleanup is nothing compared to what's to come with the actual nuclear fuel.
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That really helped.
So comparing these photos with this one.
1. BEFORE:
a: Ground photo: http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Maps%20Info/Important/Exiibit_A_zpse6cc4a30.jpg
b: TBS/jnn cam: http://s1280.beta.photobucket.com/user/Pattie_Brassard/media/window_top-A_zps985314ed.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
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2. AFTER:
a: Tepcom cam new angle: http://s1280.beta.photobucket.com/user/Pattie_Brassard/media/TEP_S_zpsc5ccf95d.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
In the above photo from 1-a I am amazed at how the upper right corner looks like it has been 'blown' away by some large piece of debris.
That's the level that is now gone.
How did I do PattieB?
I wanted to say thank you for sticking with this. It can be frustrating explaining what cannot be seen. You have remained pretty calm while taking on some flak for your observations. You've done an excellent job.
Sometimes resolving an issue, or making an observation clear, requires patience and persistence.
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you did good! But that upper part was angled like that with a row down the entire length of the building on the east and west sides.
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this is tepco first inspection of top floor of shared pool building.. (Their own inspection collection! {Rolls Eyes!} they forgot to remove it!)
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Maps%20Info/Important/090414NKfuelrods_zps086d2512.jpg
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I understand and the TBS shot where the roof is visible is the 'icing on the cake'.
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Still not seeing it. Are you perhaps thinking these images are taken from the same side of the building? Remember the new TEPCO-cam is facing northwards (slightly to the east).
The BEFORE Exhibit even says it's facing south west from north of unit 4. I believe the description is incorrect, as it seems to be the east facade (compare the window openings on the big wall) of the common pool building, although I must admit I can't place "Roofline with windows" other than that they don't really look windows.
The best illustration of the Common Pool building (It's frustrating how practically all the images are either cropped with that building out or facing wherever…) is http://mythg.net/upFiles/infoImg/2011031856768737.jpg Unit 3 can still be seen smoking, so it's also one of the earliest, in fact from 18th March 2011.
The view-direction is from near the current TEPCO cam, and from this it's easy to verify that the small side-building on the camera side is covering the lower part of the cross-hatching. For another opinion a year later, have a lot at http://yoshi-tex.com/Fuku1/120226/pict5.jpg (Warning: HUGE resolution) which shows how the white color some people call "canvas roof" is just snow.
However, do note the small building north of the common fuel pool near the left edge of the latter image, between unit 2 and 3. Its back-side looks totally ripped apart. While explosions like that are very directional, it's clear there's been much damage to…
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here's the aerial view directly above my ground view picture…
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Maps%20Info/Important/Shared_With_Windows_zps620a06b5.jpg
both of these have the east on the left, the west on the right… and facing south-west.
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And looking directly west from above.
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Maps%20Info/Important/Original_Sharedpool_zps1db7b6c6.jpg
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http://mythg.net/upFiles/infoImg/2011031856768737.jpg
This shot is after the roof cooked-off and got rebuilt the first time without the windows, and minus the top level of risers for heat exchangers… but even this roof shown here is now gone.
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It's when the fires happened and the "Glow-Line" in the TBS camera view was just… GONE!? That I started to dig at it. And after they moved the cam to new location… My 3-D modeling engine in my brain.. broke for a bit… and was shouting at me that this new view had something in it that was just WRONG!
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The February 1st 3 PM feed from Daiichi:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ENBFcqvaF0Q
Comments: hazy, some crane activity. Hard to see workers on top of Unit 4 through the haze, but one can be spotted walking from near Unit 3 across to the top of 4 at 1:30 into clip.
Jetstream maps today look like a massive Viking ship passing through lower mid America and all of eastern USA:
http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif
North Carolina and Tennessee getting very high speed jetstream emissions:
http://www.intellicast.com/National/Wind/JetStream.aspx
14 day temp and rain forecast for Fukuville:
http://www.meteoblue.com/en_GB/weather/charts/fourteenday/fukushima-i-nuclear-power-plant_jp_51932
The wind report shows north winds along the upper Honshu areas until later tonight and then out to the ocean for 4 days, then southerly winds on Wednesday (Tuesday Japan time)
http://www.meteoblue.com/en_GB/weather/forecast/week/fukushima-i-nuclear-power-plant_jp_51932
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if you wanne see the directly out-going directions of aerosols from fukushima
http://www2.wetter3.de/traj_spezial.html
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Shared pool… BURNING AGAIN!!
Lit like a lightbulb and even looks like may melt the damned tower strut across the way!
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PB thanks for the alert. Do you have link to video of this?
N
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I think that would be starting here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amr8SupOH4Q
Looks like TEPCO's nightly light-show is back. They used to light the cam-facing side of Unit 2 like this for nights, I haven't bothered following though so I don't know when is the last time. It was my impression in the past this was an attempt to hide something from the cam, as there seemed to be no purpose in this light-show (They don't work at night, and Unit 2 wall is not one of their work-areas). Conceivably it could be them watching out for something, too.
It does look slightly different, as the color may be less yellow (but the cam adjusts color balance off) and there's no "blob" (artifact of the lighting mechanism?)to be seen on corner of Unit 3 though the quality is worse than when I've last observed the light.
The blinking/sparkling on steel beams of the ruins of Unit 3 at just the edge of the lighted area are going on like mad, first impression is the location changes so it could be reflections from the light though it's hard to believe there'd be any reflective surfaces left.
Anyway, the angles and outlines of the light (or lights) would not seem to match Common Shared Pool as the source, and that along with the steadiness and seeming lack of color in the light strongly suggest an artificial source. This is not to say it can't be used to hide something from the camera, though in general it'd be easier for TEPCO to just switch the cam off and claim maintenance.
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"The blinking/sparkling on steel beams of the ruins of Unit 3"
SW upper (what's left of it) corner of R3 is what caught my eye.
A crane is located near that spot. I think we are seeing the ionizing radiation interacting with a large metal object.
I believe I've see this 'static' looking phenomenon before.
Not a good sign in my opinion.
Quick flashes at,
1:31
1:48
2:01
…to end of recording.
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The blinking or sparking at the SW corner within the steel beam ruins has been observed for a long time, not sure when would be the first occurence… It's certainly one of the more interesting phenomenon on the web-cam; although on consideration I suspect some mundane source such as a light-source behind the debris.
In any case I'm curious why people think ionizing radiation is the cause? Ionizing radiation, by its very nature, causes radiolysis of water and air, and basically generating ions which work as charge-carriers. Most radiation detectors are based on this, detecting the minute currents conducted by radiation trails.
This property of ionizing radiation is also used in some extremely static-sensitive processes (think circuit foundries and explosives) to prevent static build-up. This combined with the high humidity near the cooling-pool should actually prevent visible static charges from happening.
The place is a huge mix of different volatile compounds though, so different undesirable chemical reactions are possible, if not anticipated. Most I can think if ferrous sulfides, if steel is subjected to sulfur without the presence of oxygen. These would self-ignite, but I am not sure there's much sulfur in that mix. Hydrazine reactions (corrosion inhibitor, but also in essence rocket fuel) are possible too. Chemical reactions would probably not last for months on an end though.
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I would say the 'sparkings', as noted at the 'exact' times above, are not reflections.
That's what I am seeing that is different now.
I/we have noted here the 'electrical' effect that sometimes seems to occur between the cranes and towers. (metal objects)
It appears like' a large static charge, in some cases it is not a video artifact or camera issue so to speak. (we are aware of those)
Call it static popping, ionizing radiation, electrical fuzz or the Tesla effect. The proper term is not important to me at this time. It's something, that's the point.
When I think I see something at the 20x video speed, I try to verify what I see via the slower fuku1long 2x video, before I make a final observation.
IMO – There is nothing wrong with guessing. Don't be afraid of observation speculation. It's okay to make a mistake. That's one way we learn.
Crane Spark/Bolt/Blast 2012-11-09 14:22 jst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uyFN4uQhGw
If the stills pics aren't enough you can watch the recording. The bolt can also be seen from the Tepco cam view.
Teco cam angle @14:22 11-09-2012 jst
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2099954/Rad%20Tepcam%20Crane%20Flash%20Nov%209%202012%20001.jpg
Screen shot of tower lightning. I watched it walk up the tower.
Lightning Left tower
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2099954/Rad%20TEPcam%20%20Lightning%20R1%20Tower%20021.jpg
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It's nice that they give us that bright light… it shows-off what's exiting the missing roof of the shred pool!
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it's really saying something when it's worse than what 3 puts out!
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I checked the cam-archives on Youtube for when they stopped/starte that light-show. It appears the nightly illumination of Unit 2's cam-facing side has been going on for at least a month, so that isn't new. For some reason I was under the impression they'd stopped that, probably from looking at the video at morning after they switch the light off. Can't see anything out of ordinary of the TEPCO-cam archives.
Current forums time seems to be closing to 9pm, current TEPCO time is coming 11am on the 2nd, so TEPCO-cam timezone seems 14 hours ahead. That would make this vide match the posting time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7LRUIdyQDM
At five minutes past you can see the light turn to yellow (possible white-balance switch, though jusdging from the sequence it may be real). 11 minutes past the light turns very dim, and 15 minutes past it goes completly off. At no point are the clouds or cranes affected, so it's not a case of switching or looping video feeds.
TBS/JNN for the same time is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtlpd_GSo8Y where you can see the light switch out exactly 1 minute into the video, after which it becomes hard to see anything.
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yes.. so change the screen, and fuzz-out the TBS.. that works… NOT!
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TBS is having their own PRIVATE earth quaking that's just teir building it seems… sigh!
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The big crane has some hot whoppers on the hook!
Grab them quick and flick them on down to the old watering hole (aka The Lagoon from Hell).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKOsXaJ1wK8&list=UUDu1KkkwuzybKx6MXQgGHuw&index=5
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Oh what the hell I'll probably become most hated poster here, but for some fact-check, an exposed irradiated fuel bundle would be emitting 50-100 sieverts per hour, depending on burnup and age of the bundle. Even at distance, people in line-of-sight would get lethal dose in minutes. Do we see people walking around top of unit 4 dropping like flies? No? Good.
That's why irradiated fuel is stored below over 10 meters of water and even when cooled down transported only in dry-casks like these: http://www.ansnuclearcafe.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/dry-cask.jpg
The pieces that have been shown in those videos do not look anything like a nuclear fuel assembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOHzETdy3hw That can be handled because it's an unirradiated, fresh assembly that's never been in the reactor; they're constructed with just gloves and respirators after all. They're still quick to scrub any residue from the pool before transport.
In addition the big crane never moves as far as the common shared pool or as far as the shallow quarry. In fact it's moving between the access road and the Unit 4's south side. Where the Unit 4 cover construction site is, you know. Which is about as you'd expect, as there's a lot of debris, radiation and cranes on the way.
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guezilla, some of us really appreciate the truth. I had read something like that already. I think Pattie B maybe said something.
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Yes.. I said something..
See Nuckelchen.. he caught on vid the smaller red robot unit that was dragging entire fuel racks out into position OUTSIDE, the crane then pulls the burned rods out… and seems to be putting them into something on ground that's south-east of #4 building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXJMpBjI3LE&list=UUDu1KkkwuzybKx6MXQgGHuw
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Hi Guezilla … have read and appreciated all your observations here. Linking my answer to this post of yours isn't an accident and I have read your later posts as well.
Thanks much … many don't understand how much time and knowledge objective researched thoughts like yours take.
Good work; good research; good understanding IMO.
It's too easy to just cry fire in the theater … so there … now I shall be the most hated person in the forum.
Please continue to speak up … you have calm and reason and obviously smarts behind you. Due diligience.
Regards and take care.
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I would inclined to agree with you except for a couple of factors. One: this is unknown territory for nuclear accidents. Never before has so many things gone awry in so many interlinked locations.
Second: Distance affects radioactive damage to carbon forms. Third: the integrity of spent and fissile fuel rods. Your line of sight example hinges on the belief those are actual spent fuel rods scientists have analyzed for six decades. What if they are not?
What if the rods have burned numerous times until their radiant energy is a fraction of pristine spent fuel rods? We certainly saw plenty of smoke from the reactor buildings in the first 300 days. That was not a time lapse effect. Perhaps what the cranes are digging out is carbonized remains of what once was something very volatile. Now it might just be highly volatile instead of insanely so. I hope that most of the fuel is still there…but I will not be surprised if we find out the fuel left in the pools has burned into the atmosphere.
What lurks in the dark dirty waters of the cooling pools? I have a feeling we will have answers before the end of this year.
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It's also worth noting that fast-moving objects in compressed video tend to leave trails. This has to do with the compression only transmitting changes from last frame, but the computer doesn't know where one object ends and the sky starts. Because of this, parts of the object can be left "embedded" in the sky until they get re-drawn.
This creates the effect that most of the things hanging off the crane, including the lifting chain itself, seem to be "smoking". You can even see this effect on the crane beams itself. Transcoding (converting from one video format to other, such as from the 1h record to 3min record, or local 3 min video to YouTube's format) tends to pick up on these artifacts, thinking they're important content, and enchance them even further. Hence it's only possible to guess if something is smoking/emitting when it's perfectly still.
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On HOKKAIDO
6.9M, depth: 103km 2/2/2013 23:17
Very shaky but not centered on Fuku thank life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md52j2GAg90&feature=youtu.be
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Glad you caught this so soon..we can watch and see..Happy Groundhogs Day…bunkers may be useful…
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These quakes are showing on one map as two at 6.9 and one at 6.8: the USGS and the Geoscience Australia quakes listed below at 6.9/125k depths are the same quake. The 3 eqs appear to be 3 times as far from Tokyo as is Nukushima, call it 714k, or 442 miles. Maybe that's far away, but if I were in San Francisco, and LA experienced 3 quakes of 6.9, I'd be sleeping with my boots on for a few days:
http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
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MAP: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/145_45.php
Magnitude
6.9
Date-Time
• Saturday, February 02, 2013 at 14:17:34 UTC
• Saturday, February 02, 2013 at 11:17:34 PM at epicenter •
Location
42.812°N, 143.078°E
Depth
103.1 km (64.1 miles)
Region
HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION
Distances
15 km (9 miles) SW of Obihiro, Japan
22 km (13 miles) SSW of Otofuke, Japan
78 km (48 miles) NE of Shizunai, Japan
82 km (50 miles) SE of Shimo-furano, Japan
This earthquake is 141.7 mi (228.1 km) from Higashidōri Nuclear Power Plant
This earthquake is 158.8 mi (255.5 km) from Rokkasho reprocessing plant
This earthquake is 130.7 mi (210.4 km) from Tomari Nuclear Power Plant
http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html
Higashidōri Nuclear Power Plant 41°11′17″N 141°23′25″E
Rokkasho reprocessing plant : 40.917N 141.333E
Tomari Nuclear Power Plant 43°2′10″N 140°30′45″E
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During the past seven days, eight quakes of 6 or greater: http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/
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Your early warning system…. RSOE doesn't even have a nuclear warning on Fukashima, not even at the meltdown site!
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our funky tepco homeboys had uploaded 2.000 pictures from the verrry first times & days, march up to april 2011.
our mega-funky tepco homeboys had created verrry many funny zip archives for their representing of it all.
99 !!!
http://photo.tepco.co.jp/en/date/2013/201302-e/130201-01e.html
every single one you must click with right and then click "save as".
the problem is that you can not "save as" more then three zip files at one-then the saving windows opens and blockaded your mouse…
so,
but when you put all the files as downloads right
da funky tepco crew cut all their servers!
96 zip files are now not ready downloaded and maybe, sometimes, someday, i will try it again…
grunz!
also the google:cache doesn't finds any more tepco sides in their caches…tztz
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://photo.tepco.co.jp/en/date/2013/201302-e/130201-01e.html
2.000 pictures photoshoped in more then 700 days.
three per day…
great work boys!
http://youtu.be/AlQ-IIbGOeM
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http://imm.io/UXY6
up and out of any scale..
..bye-bye you unkown green radio-graph…
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from the 489 single radio-meter-stations were more as 350 of them strightly on UPRISING right now, feb 3th 2013
http://ma-04x.net/7000.html
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SORRY FOR TYPING ON LOUDNESS
BUT LISTEN,
SINGLE HIGH PEAKS ARE TRIGGER BY ERROR.
YOU NEED AN OTHER ONE
A SECOND SINGLE HIGH PEAK
WHEN THEY ARE AT THE SAME TIME
THEY ARE NO LONGER ERROR
THEN THEY ARE FACT.
pinky
http://imm.io/UY4Q
crazy froggy
http://imm.io/UXY6
time was round about 17:00 JST
any one here on board who could translate all the different colors from the graphs of every single detected nuclide?
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Repeat: Need HELP translating. (Japanese)
Here's the list of colors:
The colors are:
(left column)
1 Black
2 Bright Red
3 Bright Orange
4 Aqua (light blue)
5 Dark Grey
6 Maroon
7 Olive Green
8 Pink (light)
________
(right column)
9 Blue (dark)
10 Lime Green
11 Hot Pink
12 Forest Green
13 Blue (navy)
14 Purple
15 Light Grey
16 Dark Orange
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This is from Google translate:
（左列）
1黒
2ブライトレッド
3明るいオレンジ
4アクア（水色）
5ダークグレー
6マルーン
7オリーブグリーン
8ピンク（光）
________
（右列）
9ブルー（暗い）
10ライムグリーン
11ホットピンク
12フォレストグリーン
13ブルー（ネイビー）
パープル14
15ライトグレー
16ダークオレンジ
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LoL…
Thanks anne. Sorry I wasn't clear.
What is needed is the isotope name represented by the colors listed from the graph above. The graph cannot be cut and pasted.
In other words… what color equals what isotope?
Is Bright Red representing cesium-137? We don't know.
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I don't know it this helps any without the translation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NuclidesComplete
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Isotope_table_templates
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Nuckel … perhaps 4545 could help translate? It's a good question.
Take care.
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hae?
the graph morphes from green to pink and back and so 0n?
http://ma-04x.net/image_png/fukushima/graph_mext_7209.png
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whats about grey?
http://imm.io/UYfg
hey, grey is okey
thiz rainbowing at dosimeters is the new methode from tepco
FOR SAYING THAT ALL PARAMETERS WOULD BE PEAKING
le clou:
when they would overlay the same peak with ten colors at the same time it would be the single colors not visible at all.
they will be declaring laterly…
jaja
verry clever ma tepconiacs
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USGS… site is off-line!
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I monitor USGS, and many other sites I have not seen any down time.
N
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I have not seen any downtime either.
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They're back again. How long were they down?
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45min – hour?
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http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/movie/feature201302012000.html
subtle accent,
and wasn't 40 years not the "normal" planned time for a standart rebuilding of an stomic power plant,
without all the extra ordinarys from fukushima daiichi?
The stopping distance of a nuclear power plant takes 40 years, so to speak…
anyway
i got something seen more.
here,
the seasided wall from reactor nr 2.
remember, there were only a four corner hole because of the pressure panic doors that were blasted away.
loel
looky now,
looks like something alien-styled-build by hr giger:
http://www9.nhk.or.jp/kabun-blog/image/saved/2013/01/vlcsnap-2013-01-27-22h25m18s202abc-thumb-450×170-304877.png
"The photograph is taken on January 20."
http://www9.nhk.or.jp/kabun-blog/500/
the north-sea-sided corner of reactor 2 was the hot spot with 100.000 whatevers per hour…
remember?
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pump up da picture-size:
http://imm.io/V0nr
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nuckelchen…? May I please have the link to your bubble-bottom capture of the red-robot drag-out on tepco live cam… please?
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ah,
you means 'big elephants everywhere' ?
http://youtu.be/028DMxdxYNY
but the elephant wasn't red…
maybe that one?
http://youtu.be/qL24xNYKiGI
2012-12-05 crane-lift @ tepco fukushima
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no…
the one with the bubble at the very bottom… shows the stuff-work outside the garage of shared pool…?
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outside the garage! of shared pool…Is THIS the one you mean PB? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/77637499/GandP.PNG (Sorry Nuck, I know that you are a very busy man, too busy in fact to spend too musch time doing other peoples research!..plus the fact, I just could'nt resist…(grin)
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RSOE is showing earthquake Hokkaido region, 15.36 hours this date, no mag given yet.
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Earthquake in Japan on Sunday, 03 February, 2013 at 15:36 (03:36 PM) UTC.
(02.02.2013) A powerful 6.9 magnitude earthquake struck northern Japan on Saturday, causing strong tremors across Hokkaido island but no damage to several nuclear facilities in the region, officials said. The quake, which was preceded by an early warning broadcast on television and radio, hit near the town of Obihiro at a depth of 103 kilometres at 11.17pm, according to US Geological Survey data. Ten people suffered minor injuries due to falling objects, broken glass and other incidents, according to national broadcaster NHK, but authorities said no serious damage was reported and the quake did not generate a tsunami. The shaking lasted about a minute, with video taken in the offices of NHK Hokkaido showing computer screens swaying and shelves threatening to give way. Bottles smashed to the ground in supermarkets, some areas had power blackouts and a number of highways were closed. Trains were stopped on rural tracks as a precaution.
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EQ-20130203-38101-JPN
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Bonjour à tous, dégagement de fumée à 9h36 (1.46) derrière le pylône de gauche.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4KEWwHqaIk&list=UUDu1KkkwuzybKx6MXQgGHuw
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Dark Smoke from the west at Smoke Stack/tower near Reactor #1.
…via fuku1long (2x speed)
2013.02.04 09:00-10:00
@ 9:35:40 jst
@ 17:48 on the recorded video
(preset start time)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11kjx_Is7EM#t=17m44s
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Merci Fanch. Là où il ya de la fumée sans feu.
Or as Smokey Stover once said, where there's smoke there's foo.
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Nice day to release some steam. And it looks like some steam is coming off the rubble of 3. The east corner of 2 is being covered up by steam/smoke either from 3 or between 2 and 3.
Saw the comments above above the big red 'fish'
Bet they are making an attempt at removing fuel from the #3 pool with that contraption. The bar at the top seems to hold a motor and winch, which would allow cable to pass through the bottom of 'fish' and grab a fuel assembly and pull it up into the 'fish'.
The other crane appears to hold a camera to guide the operation.
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