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The first story The Young Turks do on nuclear power and Cenk doesn't even mention Fukushima?? Wowsers….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAYVlHJQ_lg&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=1&feature=plcp
Does his boss al gore fear competition to his carbon tax empire for world redemption?
I don't know, but the silence on Fukushima is deafening.
Missing the Doctor, Wishing him well!
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Transcript for Exclusive Arnie Gundersen Interview: The Dangers of Fukushima Are Worse and Longer-lived Than We Think
http://www.chrismartenson.com/page/transcript-exclusive-arnie-gundersen-interview-dangers-fukushima-are-worse-and-longer-lived-we-
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A letter by Shunichi Yamashita (fake doc we should never forget)
http://fukushimavoice-eng.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/fukushima-childrens-thyroid-examination.html
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OMG! I just heard on NPR that the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI) is underwriting Marketplace! So now what's the chance of getting an honest story about nukes on that program? They're using their ill gotten gains to subvert any possible bastion of progressive/liberal/honest nuclear reporting.
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Hi AuntieNuke. The nuke industry started a well-funded, concerted PR campaign several months ago. We've been seeing industry ads all over the place (including here! LOL! I told admin they were smart to take ad money via GoogleAds from the industry…as draining their PR $ reserves is one way to do our duty to stop nuclear power! LOL No one here will "buy" into nuclear power propaganda ads, obviously, so it is always hilarious to find them at the top of an enenews page.
However, such ads for the rest of the uninformed masses is quite disturbing. But I hope the tide of public sentiment against nuclear power is turning enough that most people will either just ignore them or scoff and snort when they see them.
But I am not concerned about Marketplace, as I pretty much have to think that if they are a news service focusing on business, they won't turn down advertising money from the heavy hitters in energy no matter what the current sentiment of the public…It's just business as usual, no?
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Write, the Internet discussion and consequent action is mightier than the sycophant's words. See for example a cry like:
Re: Times of India,
Curfew imposed in Kudankulam
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/madurai/Curfew-imposed-in-Kudankulam/articleshow/13073884.cms
Nuclear power programmes consume five times the energy they produce during their postulated life time. One therefore fails to understand why the governments are moving ahead with nukes. Further, as happened at Fukushima an earthquake of sufficient magnitude may impose sufficient surges of forces on the reactors/structures of the same order of magnitude as in a nuclear explosion. This earthquake may occur even a 1000 km away. It is not the dynamics of earthquakes per se as the dynamics of redistribution of the huge surges of water moments of the world's dams which may hit a fortuitiously placed nuclear park.
Thus what the governments are waging is nuclear war on the people and nuclear terrorism. Since year after year society does not get any electricity from the ventures, outside the nuclear industry, they will go on blindly building nuclear parks after parks and increase the nuclear explosion risks and lead humanity in the direction of extinction as Fukushima is leading us to. It is stupid to emphasise that a Fukushima cannot occur here in view of the dynamics indicated above. We are in for a major earthquake in three to ten days. It may occur in the north east or in HP or in the Andaman Sumatra area…
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For the latest having a bearing on the Kudankulam Nuclear Station read a commentary on the devastating fire at Mettur Thermal Station 85 km away to the West:
Today's update at
http://predictingquakes.blogspot.in/
I shudder to think the worst for Kudankulam.
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Hi Ramaswami, good to see you.
I posted this link the other day about the people on hunger strike: http://www.dianuke.org/
The site holds a lot of good information, I think. I'm SO impressed by the willpower of those Indian protestors.
I'll check your earthquake prediction right now. Thank you.
GO INDIA (again)
*peace
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Ramaswami Kumar said, "Thus what the governments are waging is nuclear war on the people and nuclear terrorism."
Yes, it feels exactly like nuclear war, on us, the world's people, waged by the governments and the corporations.
I am so impressed with the protesters, too.
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Thanks as well from me, Ramaswami. It is truly heartening to see so many people rising up to fight this ugly nuclear beast.
I wish them well in their efforts! May more citizens of the world learn from then and rise up and speak out against nuclear.
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Yes dosdos,…I read, "Drill Baby drill",…and everything else offensive to Mother Earth!
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Old article about Radioactive waste truck crashes in Oregon.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/36634609.html
As a friend said, this is why nuclear wast should not be transported around.
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05/08/2012
Hot Particles and Measurement of Radioactivity
http://fairewinds.org/content/hot-particles-and-measurement-radioactivity
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Mike Adams, Natural News,…today, part of a FUKU rant where he went off on 'denial'. Great quick two or three paragraphs!
"Denial may be an effective psychological tactic in politics and poker, but unfortunately for the rest of us it does not alter the laws of physics. "Denial" does not change the 30-year half life of Cesium-137, a radioactive isotope that mimics the mineral potassium and thus is easily absorbed into food crops, poisoning the entire food supply.
Denial is not a tactic of genuine leaders; it is a last-ditch desperate ploy of the weak-minded.
We are living in the land of denial, led by elected denialists who are voted into office by working-class denialists. Denial has become our modus operandi, our fabric of fairytales. It has allowed our civilization to ride high on a global debt pyramid and it will be the harbinger of our ultimate destruction at the hands of "scientists" who promised us life but delivered us unto death.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035813_Ron_Wyden_Fukushima_radiation.html#ixzz1uR5RL2kP
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Wow!!! Thanks, StillJill. He pretty much tells it like it is! Time to wake some folks up from their Denial slumbers, huh?
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Waking people up from THIS denial,…may require an anvil,…or a flame thrower! I'm just about giving up! Not of surviving myself,….but the wear and tare of dragging horses to water,…only to have them kick you in the face,…well,…..may not be what the Good Lord is calling this ol'e gal to do anymore!
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"If they do not receive you, or listen to you, shake the (radioactive) dust from your feet and move on. Sodom and Gomorrah are better off than they will be." – paraphrase Matt 10
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Well said, Bobby1. Like StillJill, sometimes I feel all this beating my head against the wall to wake people up is taking its toll…and a kinder, gentler approach on my psyche may be called for.
Haven't tried the anvil approach, though, StillJill. ;-D LOL
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@ StillJill, I think you are getting the direction you are supposed to be on. We all feel like lifting everyone but that's not possible. By all means, post and alert people but not to the extent that it's your duty, destiny and your liability lol It's just my opinion and I don't think everyone would agree but I think ones that are meant to wake up WILL(would have) listen(ed) and take action to protect their loved one etc. I have been trying to alert people to evacuate since last March. Some managed to move to the west of Japan, some stayed put for one reason or another, getting sicker
It's sad but I think we have crossed the dividing line of who has more chance of surviving or not. The deed has been done, as it were.
It's usually a good indicator if you feel drained by work, place, friends etc it's a sign that it's not working for you.
Like physical pain has a purpose to let you know something isn't right.
All the best
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We just never get any good news…boneseeking Fukushima Daiichi strontium is found in huge amounts in the ocean:
"Strontium 90 exists about 17 ~ 62 % of cesium 134/137, where Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology assumed it would be 0.1 %."
Fukushima Diary: http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/05/strontium-90-spread-over-1000km-evenly-in-pacific-ocean/
SP: The fiscal and morally bankrupt entity known as TEPCO has yet to filter out one drop of the strontium from the waste water they are allowing to flow freely into the Pacific Ocean. The other superpowers who avert their heads and do not offer billions of dollars in assistance are as corrupt and inefficient as the Diet in Japan. This is not just a tragedy for the innocent victims in Japan… It is a ecological act that threatens every human on the planet. Our vast and beautiful earth is being murdered by a few humans.
I know I didn't agree to be murdered for the sake of having electricity in my home. I would rather freeze in the dark and read by candle than die from radioactive bone cancer served up by General Electric and Hitachi.
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I wonder how much of that strontium-90 will end up in the rain over the next 290 years.
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"Mitsui is pulling out of Australia's newest uranium mine, the 340 tonnes a year Honeymoon operation in South Australia's outback."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/in-depth/mitsui-pulls-out-of-honeymoon-mine/story-fn8sc6jr-1226351407623
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@andii .. that's good news. In November, the Herald said ..
"Uranium output on the boil"
http://www.smh.com.au/business/uranium-output-on-the-boil-20111122-1nstm.html
"AUSTRALIA'S uranium industry is taking on an increasingly multinational flavour, with or without plans by Prime Minister Julia Gillard to lift the ban on sales to India.
A joint venture between a Russian-controlled Canadian company, Uranium One, and Japan's Mitsui, is increasing production at its $138 million Honeymoon mine in South Australia.
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Prices reached record levels in June 2007 of $US136 a pound, but are now at $US53 a pound."
Today …
NYMEX Uranium
U3O8 Settles $/LB
May 12 51.50
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*WEF* Japanese Tsunami Reflections (Radiation Worries): http://youtu.be/Vke30_Cne_0 via @youtube
One year on from the Tsunami in Japan, asking people on the streets how they feel, this Documentary is intended to reveal how these people in Osaka have moved on and are living with the reality of Nuclear Meltdown.
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RWE says won't engage in Czech nuclear venture
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/1…
FRANKFURT, May 10 (Reuters) – RWE AG has no plans to participate in planned expansion of the Czech nuclear plant at Temelin, chief financial officer Rolf Pohlig said in a call with journalists on Thursday. Yeah!!
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Hehehehe….thanks Whoops
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BB let's SHUT THEM ALL DOWN, eh?!
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temelins bad enough without having any more of it added !
thanks for the find whoopie!! good news… be even better when the decommissioning cycle begins on that one!
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Tokyo Bay becoming a hot spot CESIUM
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/05/tokyo-bay-becoming-a-hot-spot/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FukushimaDiary+%28Fukushima+Diary%29
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All that dumping 'we' found out about,…into the Bay,….like consequences,…they are finally catching up to tepco and Japan!
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Response to a bug-out forum
http://enenews.com/forum-general-discussion-thread-nuclear-issues-2012/comment-page-3#comment-245744
One would certainly be appreciated at ene…best places to flee to etc. Somehow it does seem prudent we communicate with each other on this serious matter. The obstacles are many, but until a forum appears I am up for ideas
chemfood@hushmail.com
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Wonderful idea chem. I hope admin does just that.
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When you all get a chance, go read this from Paul Langley.
"It consists of the human tissue Project Sunshine stole from the bodies of dead people from 1954 until 1973. THAT IS THE LOST TISSUE BANK – THE BONE MARROW THAT WENT UP IN SMOKE FROM 1954 TO 1973. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/WeMustDoBetter09/japan-nuclear-reactors_n_1483084_153535895.html
Mother fuckers deliberately BURNING HUMAN REMAINS.
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after paying pathologists world wide to steal the bones, Project Sunshine, under Libby, ashed the bone, sending the marrow up the chimney. The evidence of damage to the most sensitive tissue was gone, only the readings from bone, the most resistent tissue, mattered to the nuke authorities.
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Reactor casualties 4 – The phony lost archive versus the real one.
http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/reactor-casualties-4-the-phony-lost-archive-versus-the-real-one/
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PROJECT SUNSHINE AND THE SLIPPERY SLOPE
http://www.sehd.scot.nhs.uk/scotorgrev/Documents/Project%20Sunshine%20%20slippery%20slope.pdf
Project GABRIEL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_GABRIEL
Project SUNSHINE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_SUNSHINE
Project Sunshine Fukushima Style
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/radiation-in-japan-as-it-is-being.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/project-sunshine-fukushima-style/
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NUC NEWS JUST POPPED UP
http://nucnews.com/whatsnew.php
Keep refreshing for added links.
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Cancer Claim Against Nuclear Plant DISMISSED Courthouse News Service http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/05/10/46383.htm via @CourthouseNews
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Bipartisan Members of Congress Slam USEC Bailout http://ecowatch.org/2012/bipartisan-members-of-congress-slam-usec-bailout/ Markey HERO!!
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Brazil dumps nuclear plants
Brazil said Wednesday it has shelved plans to build new nuclear power stations in the coming years in the wake of last year's Fukushima disaster in Japan.
The previous government led by former president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva had planned to construct between four and eight new nuclear plants through 2030.
But the energy ministry's executive secretary, Marcio Zimmermann, was quoted as telling a forum Tuesday that there was no need for new nuclear facilities for the next 10 years.
"The last plan, which runs through 2020, does not envisage any (new) nuclear power station because there is no need for it. Demand is met with hydro-electrical power and complementary energy sources such as wind, thermal and natural gas," Zimmermann said in remarks released by the ministry Wednesday.
"The 2021 plan, as far as I know, will not consider nuclear power stations either, " he added, although he did not rule out construction of such facilities in the longer term.
"After the (2011 Fukushima) accident in Japan, not just Brazil but the entire world stopped to analyze and assess," Mauricio Tomalsquim, president of the EPE energy research firm, told the same event.
http://business.iafrica.com/worldnews/793872.html
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Hi Bobby1, but I think they will keep on building the angra 3 NPP, which sits neatly on a fault line and 150 km from Rio de Janeiro.
Ther German govmt ok'ed loan guarantees for that.
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Ughhh… why is Germany helping them, I thought they were phasing out nuclear power.
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Hi Bobby, I know – that's the myth of our govmt being anti-nuke.
They're not.
Merkel extended the operational time of German nukes by 12 years only half a year before Fuku happened.
Then 100.000's of people demontrating in the streets made her change her mind. She feared to loose the elections.
And the pro-nuke lobby here is currently trying to reverse the phase-out.
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Smart folks! Now if they would just halt the construction of the third reactor at Angra and close the other two…then they will be free of all nukes!
Angra Nuclear Power Plant is Brazil's sole nuclear power plant. Located near Rio de Janeiro.
Work started again on the third unit in June 2010 for entry into service in 2015.
The Brazilians realize they can not replace a sanctuary coastline after a nuclear accident. If they are smart they will pull the plug on the Angra NPP. J
apan's dire death spiral is not going unnoticed by bankers and advisors to dictators. Feel their ears with the truth!
Check out where plants are in the world:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WKtBxOT6JgM/TarmgVwu4DI/AAAAAAAAANg/AdR3axApkIE/s1600/world_map.png
Four NPP in the entire Southern Hemisphere. If mankind is going to survive the ghouls in power…then the last stand will probably be there.
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Bury Plutonium? Scientists Recommend Radioactive Element's Disposal–But Where?
The vast majority of the radioactive plutonium on the planet is man-made—roughly 500 metric tons, or enough to make 100,000 nuclear weapons by the calculations of the International Panel on Fissile Materials.
Much of it is the legacy of the nuclear arms race between the U.S. and Russia in the latter decades of the 20th century but, more and more, it is also the legacy of nuclear power.
Now a team of scientists—physicists Frank von Hippel and Richard Garwin along with environmental scientists Rodney Ewing and Allison Macfarlane—suggest that burying plutonium is the only reasonable solution to this problematic stockpile in a comment to be published in Nature on May 10…
They also recommend the U.K., which is presently debating what to do with its nearly 100 metric tons of plutonium, should lead the way by studying how to immobilize the “element from hell” in ceramic pucks that can then be buried in deep caverns or even deeper boreholes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/bury-plutonium-radioactive-disposal_n_1504965.html
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http://www.naturalnews.com/035813_Ron_Wyden_Fukushima_radiation.html “[We are all in an] idiotic catch-22, where governments refuse to address a problem that threatens the world unless and until the problem explodes in their faces, at which point it is too late to address it…..Denial will be the harbinger of our ultimate destruction at the hands of "scientists" who promised us life but delivered us unto death.” Mike Adams
He will host the Alex Jones show tomorrow 5-11 & interview Arnie.
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Nuclear waste plan alarming
When an application goes to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission seeking to store nuclear waste, there is always an uproar. It’s the old not-in-my-backyard syndrome. We understand that.
But what if the application is to transport nuclear waste through that proverbial backyard? Apparently that doesn’t generate much of a fuss. This we don’t get.
It was reported this week that a waste management company has applied for a federal license to import 500 tons – as in 1 million pounds – of radioactive waste from Mexico to be incinerated near Richland. The ashes would then be trucked back to Mexico.
The trip from Mexico to the Tri-Cities sounds pretty risky. And the trip back to Mexico doesn’t sound particularly safe.
This proposal is alarming.
http://www.theolympian.com/2012/05/09/2097877/nuclear-waste-plan-alarming.html
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Uranium may soon replace coal
I wasn’t sure that uranium mining would be good for Southside Virginia when I first heard about it, but every other news story I read makes it clearer and clearer to me that we need to mine the uranium at Coles Hill.
Gov. Bob McDonnell has stated many times that he wants to make Virginia the "Energy Capitol of the East Coast," but there are many challenges to doing this.
A huge one is the fate of the coal industry. Virginia Business, the Wall Street Journal and the Atlantic have all published articles about its uncertainty, asking whether it’s doomed, within the past month. According to Virginia Business, coal exports brought $1.3 billion in revenue into Virginia last year, but strict EPA regulations and last year’s mild winter have coal companies hesitant to open any new mines and power companies planning to shut down coal-burning plants in Virginia.
If Old King Coal dies, who will take his throne?…
With the nation’s largest uranium deposit in Virginia, Southside could do well if nuclear power leads. Nearly 40 percent of Virginia’s power already comes from nuclear plants, and we’ve got centuries of mining experience in Virginia that would help us mine uranium.
http://www2.godanriver.com/news/2012/may/10/uranium-may-soon-replace-coal-ar-1903664/
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Here’s my recipe for disaster.
Ingredients:
1) An apathetic public
2) 1 Department of Mines, Minerals and Energy
3) 1 Department of Environmental Quality
4) 1 Department of Health and Human Resources
5) 1 Uranium mining and milling company.
6) 1 Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC)
7) 1 Uranium Working Group (UWG)
8) An agreement State Status
Gather an apathetic public. Arrange in Southside.
Combine ingredients 2 through 5, remembering to include ignorance regarding experience with uranium mining in Virginia.
Slowly pour NRC and its inexperience regarding uranium milling in Virginia into the mixture.
Mum’s the word. Secretly add as much Uranium Working Group as you need to prevent transparency of the mixture.
If mixture retains any transparency after adding UWG, fold in Agreement State status.
Use collusive governor, and spread mixture over apathetic public.
Can be served hot or cold. Bon appétit!
http://www2.godanriver.com/news/2012/may/08/uranium-side-effects-unknown-ar-1897967/
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LOL
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Thanks, Bobby1. Very clever.
But you should really give credit where credit is due…it (thankfully) wasn't YOU who created this recipe. It was the greedy nuclear cabal and gvt. leaders cooking up their radioactive soup.
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BRILLIANTLY written and constructed Bobby1! Saving this one!
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Thank, but I just copied and pasted it from that newspaper article… I wish I was that clever!
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Bobby1,
I'll buy any "cookbook" that you DO want to write, visit any blog, take any lesson. You are one of my favorite writers ever!
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Oops! Didn't catch that.
I try and put "quotes" around my snips from articles and quotes, etc., to show I am pasting the info from another source. Very helpful in clarifying where it came from. 
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Time Magazine, May 14, 2012
The father of World-champion heavyweight boxer Wladimir Klitschko and his brother Vitali, also a boxing champion, from working at Chernobyl.
10 Questions Interview with Wladimir Klitschko
Wasn't yor father in the Soviet military?
"…In April of '86, the Chernobyl catastrophe happened. The first people who were sent to clean it up were military. They were, most of the time, not prepared. And a lot of them died either right away or through the years. Unfortunately, my father is one of them. He made it 'till he was 64, and he was really suffering in the last years."
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Japanese education is really failing, making sure there will be no future
Japanese middle school students agree to accept contaminated rubbles.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqq89d_20120510nhkyyyyyyy-yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy_news
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Unconscionable that any nation would do this to its children! Too many nations are guilty of doing just that, thanks to radiation spewing from their NPPs. So incredibly sad and unbelievable.
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Indeed unconscionable that any nation would do this to its children!
Minamisoma is 122 times more contaminated than mandatory evacuation zone in Belarus. On 4/16/2012, Japanese government lifted hazard area of this zone!
http://fukushima-diary.com/
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Yes, Holland. It is truly unbelievable. It feels like we've entered The Twilight Zone. Surreal…
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Radiation risks: Raiders of the lost archive
Old collections of irradiated tissues could answer modern-day questions about the dangers of radiation. Now, researchers are making a concerted effort to save the stores.
Alison Abbott
09 May 2012
http://www.nature.com/news/radiation-risks-raiders-of-the-lost-archive-1.10599
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Experts suggest burying all plutonium underground
A US research team has suggested burying all plutonium stockpiles underground, to avoid the high cost of recycling it as fuel and the risk of it being used by terrorists.
A Princeton University professor and 3 other experts made the suggestion in Thursday's edition of the British science magazine, Nature.
The group says the recycling of plutonium extracted from spent nuclear fuel costs much more than other methods of disposal.
The group also cites fears that the more than 250 tons of plutonium stockpiled around the world for commercial purposes could go into terrorists' hands, because they may be converted into nuclear weapons.
Last year, the British government proposed to build a plant to process plutonium into nuclear fuel. However, the experts describe the idea as unrealistic.
They conclude that burying it underground is the safest and cheapest method of disposal.
Japan has been reviewing its policy of recycling nuclear fuel in the wake of last year's nuclear accident in Fukushima.
Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:33 +0900 (JST)
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http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20120510_22.html
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Thanks, Mungo! Excellent find! I hope the U.S. is taking notes too…
Crossing my fingers…
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To keep in touch, here's my email address, in case something happens to this site:
missn.democracy@hushmail.com
Anyone who wants to, send me yours (but no spam of course pls.)
I appreciate the connection and info here. May it continue!
By the way, I'm in northern California.
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A friend we all know and love, sent me this to post if I was so inclined.
I'm so inclined!
Dear friends,
Twenty years after the Cold War, there are still 200 US nuclear weapons in Europe. And for the first time in memory, we have a chance to get them out.
In just 10 days, world leaders will gather in Chicago for the NATO Summit, where the future of these weapons is on the agenda. NATO put these “tactical” US weapons in Europe at the height of tensions with the Soviets – but apparently missed the memo that the Cold War ended. Let’s tell NATO leaders to get rid of these useless nukes once and for all. Sign the petition today and share it with all your friends:
http://www.nukesout.org
It’s a no-brainer that these weapons are relics of a bygone age: they’re dangerous, useless and expensive. Two decades after the fall of the Berlin Wall, they can’t address today’s actual security threats. Yet we continue to pump US tax dollars into keeping them mission-ready – in a world without a mission.
With these nukes out of Europe, the road will be clear for the US and Russia to agree on unprecedented cuts to their arsenals – which now represent more than 90% of the nuclear weapons on the planet. Getting US nukes out of Europe is the push we need to get the world back on track to zero.
The world will be watching the NATO Summit – let's make sure they get the message. Please sign the petition and join us as we call on world leaders to seize this moment and take the…
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The world will be watching the NATO Summit – let's make sure they get the message. Please sign the petition and join us as we call on world leaders to seize this moment and take the next bold step to zero.
http://www.nukesout.org
Fighting the good fight,
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@ Jill: BTW I'm a sister, living in AZ.
A sister cowgirl–retired– who cries when she sees the equine walking dead.
Maybe we two could drive my RV somewhere–let's see what Arnie says tomorrow.
Hoping to finally get some sleep tonight, wishing the same for all of you warriors,
openeye
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Holy cow,….never guess that!
Called myself a broken down ol'e cowgirl,…just last night!
Then,…how's this?
I love ya Sister!
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Citi analyst: New NPPs in UK are not commercially viable; based on new figures nuclear *most expensive* form of electricity generation.
LONDON, May 8 (Reuters) -Britain's aim to expand its fleet of nuclear plants by 2025 will take place only if the taxpayer absorbs the burden of spiralling construction costs, allowing private companies to invest in the sector, a senior analyst said.
Nuclear energy policy in Britain faces major setbacks following reports that the cost of replacing ageing reactors increased dramatically in the past year, making power produced from new plants not affordable without government help.
A report from the Times newspaper on Monday said French nuclear developer EDF had raised the cost of building a nuclear power plant to 7 billion pounds from 4.5 billion pounds last year. "If the latest cost figures are true, new nuclear power plants in the UK are not commercially viable," Citi analyst Peter Atherton told Reuters.
Based on the new figures, nuclear would be the most expensive form of electricity generation, exceeding even offshore wind, he said. "
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL5E8G8FQ620120508?irpc=932
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Press Release 017/2012
Less greenhouse gases with less nuclear energy
Overall emissions in Germany drop by some 2 per cent over previous year
http://www.umweltbundesamt.de/uba-info-presse-e/2012/pe12-017_less_greenhouse_gases_with_less_nuclear_energy.htm
(Might be repost of news here. We all know Kyoto dead I think but congrats to those countries who made the effort and commitment. Challenges ahead; free market and social responsibilty may still prevail.)
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Insert photo of msmilkytheclown's cat here. http://www.nuclear.kth.se/radioactiveorchestra/
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"Nuclear Loans, Subsidies&other Taxpayer Swindles…." Presentation by NIRS' Michael Mariotte to Sierra Club National Nuclear Strategy Meeting, May 5, 2012. http://www.state.nv.us/nucwaste/news2012/pdf/nirs120505sierraclub.pdf
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For now 7 months in a row, electricity in Germany has been cheaper than in France.
*makes you go hmmmm, nukers?
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Chilling documentary. The looks on their faces, says it all.
At 51:16 "Okay, get away from the building as soon as you can!!!" – worker seeing 100 mSV/hr (a lot of actual footage)
Fukushima Meltdown BBC aired Feb 23rd, 2012 1 hr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=L5Iv7U4WWu4
…AND it's NOT OVER!
Luck? Fate? God? Bad Decisions? All of the above? I don't have clue!
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New to the forum, old to Enenews …
Reaching out to Bobby1 …are you the same Bobby1 who wrote
"Beta Radiation in the United States Following the Fukushima Disaster".
http://freepdhosting.com/e9ba.1877db.pdf
If so, I respect your need for privacy.
Perhaps already discussed here … I was stunned to see your numbers for Eureka CA
53.05 times background radiation last March — highest in country?
You got the numbers from EPA. Can you share more about those numbers? Perhaps so that they can be reproduced and restated?
Seen some substantial anomalies in Humboldt County and almost nothing written.
Rural coast of CA seems to not really "count" to the researchers and media.
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Quietsight,…I agree,…the coastal anomalies are being ignored.
One has to be, blind in one eye,….and unable to see out of the other,….to miss what's going on here on the coast!
What I'm finding in my bloody greenhouse,….makes me have nightmares!
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Quietsight,
My memory is creaky on this, but there may have been some suspicion about the nearby nuclear plant? What may be coming from there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humboldt_Bay_Nuclear_Power_Plant
Or maybe they just forgot to censor that one and displayed the real results by mistake?
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Quietsight, yes it is me. Eureka had 53 times its normal background beta radiation in March 2011, but the natural radiation there is very low, due to its geology and being near the ocean. The data should still be up at the EPA site, though it might take a few tries to download it.
It's the highest multiple over background in the country, but I don't think it's the highest reading… I haven't looked at that pdf in a while, but it seemed to be worse in southern California and Arizona.
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The EPA data only has selected cities of course, but it seemed that the death rates from the CDC mortality data were increased at higher elevations, so I would think that high elevations in the coast mountains, Sierras and Cascades were and are the hardest hit. Orographic lift provides more radionuclides to come down in rain and snow in these areas.
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Prisonplanet—Arnie interview starts in 10 minutes,…on the west coast,…if I'm not mistaken!
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Actually, He's on at about the 30 minute mark,…I'm told,…9:30 west coast.
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demolish or entomb:
http://translate.google.com/translate?client=firefox-a&hl=en&ie=UTF8&u=http://www.n-tv.de/politik/RWE-verschrottet-Biblis-article6244441.html
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for the "normal procedure", taking 20-30 years. Even then 5 years before anything will happen with the machinery. long time to stop nukees from switching them on again.
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Follow the money: Recent news about U.S. funding additional nuclear research:
"DOE Awards $47 Million to Universities for Nuclear Programs, Portion of Future Funding in Question"
http://nuclearstreet.com/nuclear_power_industry_news/b/nuclear_power_news/archive/2012/05/09/doe-awards-_2400_47-million-to-universities-for-nuclear-programs_2c00_-portion-of-future-funding-in-question-050901.aspx
"Taking Us Backwards On Nuclear Spending":
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-a-budget/226373-taking-us-backwards-on-nuclear-spending
"Purdue gets $2.5M for nuclear research projects":
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57431771/purdue-gets-$2.5m-for-nuclear-research-projects/
"Morgridge Institute receives funding for nuclear research":
http://badgerherald.com/news/2012/05/08/morgridge_institute_.php
And a Google search for "U.S. nuclear funding" will reveal a slew of additional newly announced nuclear research funding…
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And finally:
Here's what former nuclear industry exec and Obama-appointed Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu has to say about his vision for increased U.S. support for our nuclear industry:
“We must invest in the next generation of American scientists and engineers in order to fulfill our commitment to restarting America’s nuclear industry and making sure that America stays competitive in the 21st century,” Energy Secretary Steven Chu said in a release."
Oh really? Who says "We" must???
And "competitive," Secretary Chu? Do you mean we are competing with other and nations to see who can do the best job at murdering our innocent children, and all of humanity by ESCALATING the nuclear irradiation of our planet???
I think any intelligent, sane nation would REVERSE such a plan, if they wish to have a nation left after such crimes against humanity as we have already witnessed and continue to witness, thanks to Fukushima!
And let's be honest, Japan and it's Fukushima fiasco have WON that competition anyway. Do you not pay attention to what is happening there???
How about asking the American public if they support the "U.S. commitment" to "restarting America's nuclear industry?"
If a majority are AGAINST it, then a truly democratic nation would reverse this ill-gotten decision and END the deadly pursuit of nuclear power in America, would it not???
Let's put this to a vote and see the TRUE mandate and will of the American people, shall we?…
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StillJill: oh my. No Nukes: yes they are still in process of decommissioning nuke plant in Eureka, however Bobby1's report shows these beta numbers specifically for March 2011, also high for April, May. Still hope to hear from Bobby1
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Hello Quietsight!
You and others here will be interested to read this latest Enformable.com FOIA posting, revealing the CA Dept. of Public Health's "Radiological Divison's" radiation monitoring results from last March…and their PR presentation teaching how to make those numbers look less frightening to the public:
http://enformable.com/2012/05/march-18th-2011-nrc-is-not-in-a-position-to-share-licensee-radiation-measurements-with-statescounties/
It appears the plume of I-131 made its way down the coast of CA, based on their chart. But remember, plumes don't blow uniformly, and fallout can hit one place yet miss another place a mile away entirely…So, it is hard to say why their monitors detected it more in some areas and not others.
As you can see, they have a little trick they are using at the San Onofre NPP: their radiation monitor is actually 7 miles away from the plant! So in the case of a leak, the higher concentrations of nuclides won't be measured accurately and thus they don't have to exactly "lie" when they report lower numbers…So clever, you guys! Gee, why didn't I think of that? /sarc
Anyway, as the headline states, the NRC is not "in a position to share (NPP) licensee radiation measurement with States/Counties." Another clever way to keep the truth from the unsuspecting public.
Excuse me now while I go throw up. :- P (Kidding of course, but it does turn one's stomach, does it not?)
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Quietsight,….very astute,…last March (late), April, and May 2011, I believe ingested us ALL with 'death' inside of us,…here on the west coast. According to Dr Len Saputo, DrSaputo.com,…'we' can build up our bodies properly to make those hot particles have to wait their turn taking us out. If 'we' stay alkaline,….and full up on the real calcium (not cesium), the real magnesium (not strontium), etc,….for potassium, and all the necessary trace minerals,…..we can hold our own, and stay back degenerative diseases as a whole. I believe this with all my heart and soul!
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Yes, StillJill. I believe this too!
For example, for some reason, by body has always craved vinagary things. It seems to "cut through" the bad stuff that makes my stomach not feelis right (i.e. esp. after eating too many sugary or starchy foods.)
I even gargle and drink a few tablespoons of vinegar when I feel a sore throat starting. It seems to "nip it in the bud" and it is gone the next day (if I catch it early enough.) Strange, huh? (Works much better for me than gargling with just warm salty water, something my mother taught us to do as children.)
Glad to have the health watchers here like you to help offer your great experiences and advice in keeping us on the healthy path. Thank you as always! xoxo
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WATK,…you prove a theory to me just now. My former roommates were junk food addicts,…of the highest order. The hubby aet no veggies or fruit, period,…and was quite ill. They pizza'd every other night,….and did Burger king on the off nights,……both,….anyway, the wife had one odd habit,….it made her test alkaline,….and she was darned healthy for all her food abuses,….she ate pickled peppers out of a jar,….I can't,…pepperchinis,??? maybe,…ate them every other day at least. (She seemed to crave those pepperchinis). I see now, she did! Her body KNEW what it NEEDED to ward off the abuse. It always knows!
We are so wonderfully made!
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Wild monkeys to help gauge Fukushima radiation
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T120511004760.htm
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Poor monkeys…
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That's just f'ing sick! Bloody barbarians,….build something you CAN'T CONTROL,….then send in the innocent and unsuspecting to do your dirty work. F'ing pussys!
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I often find that when weighing the import of an interview, lecture, presentation, etc,….it is often not the first points, (mission statement or thesis) of the talk that matters…it's rather contained in the last words,…. in the final thoughts.
Here are Arnie's today on Prison planet:
Mike Adams, "Do you have any parting words for us Arnie, in like 10 seconds,…(music starting softly in background signaling a commercial),….Arnie, "Yes,…it's not clear to me that unit #3 is in much better condition (than unit #4)."
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CENSORED!!! "Your comment text contained a form of the censored word 'Fukushima' and cannot be posted." – message from a CBS comment area.
I saw an article about recalled MILK in Fresno California. I was going to leave a comment about "why not test for Fukushima Fallout" and the above message is what I received.
"Wow!", I thought. My FREEDOM of SPEECH has just been cut off.
the Milk article:
http://www.cbs47.tv/news/local/story/Raw-milk-recalled-from-Fresno-dairy/T131_mRCp0yZREmo0MmnyQ.cspx?rss=153
Here's the short article:
"Raw milk from a Fresno County Dairy is being recalled. Ten people have reportedly gotten sick from products from Organic Pastures Dairy. Bacteria was found in its raw cream."
"The dairy's owner says he believes the test results are incorrect."
"This is the second recall in six months for the company."
So… The Dairy Owner, (corporation – ORGANIC PASTURES), claims the test results are not correct. Of course, and there is no concern either.
DON'T BELIEVE IT!
It only makes sense that ORGANIC grass fed cows will show the highest amount of radioactive contamination first.
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Wow, ChasAha, that is a huge story. Will you and StillJill, and everyone here please check out Nuck's latest on the webcam thread and tell me what you see? My hands are shaking, but I hope that you will tell me it is nothing. Thank you.
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I see trillions of dollars…up in smoke…invisible smoke but smoke still the same. Unit 4 is nearly gone as u can see the ocean thru the buildings walls. To my eyes, with my computer, I see millions/billions of tiny points of light and energy flowing from the entire site. Poor ocean, poor earths creatures…stupid humans!!!
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