Symposium: The Medical and Ecological Consequences of Fukushima, March 11-12, 2013
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Symposium: The Medical and Ecological Consequences of the Fukushima Nuclear Accident l March 11-12, 2013
at The New York Academy of Medicine, New York City, NY
A unique, two-day symposium at which an international panel of leading medical and biological scientists, nuclear engineers, and policy experts will make presentations on and discuss the bio-medical and ecological consequences of the Fukushima disaster, will be held at The New York Academy of Medicine on March 11-12, 2013, the second anniversary of the accident. The public is welcome.
Chaired by Donald Louria, MD, Chairman Emeritus of the Department of Preventive Medicine and Community Health of the University of Medicine and Dentistry, New Jersey, the symposium is a project of The Helen Caldicott Foundation.
Confirmed speakers include:
Dr. Tim Mousseau, Professor of Biological Sciences , University of South Carolina – Chernobyl, Fukushima and Other Hot Places, Biological Consequences
Ken Buesseler, Marine Scientist , Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute –Consequences for the Ocean of the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant Accident
David Lochbaum, The Union of Concerned Scientists – Another Unsurprising Surprise
Dr. Wladimir Wertelecki, Chairman, Department of Medical Genetics and Birth Defects, University of South Alabama– Congenital Malformations in Rivne Polossia associated with the Chernobyl Accident
Dr. Marek Niedziela, Professor of Pediatrics, Poznan (Poland) University of Medical Sciences – Thyroid Pathology in Children with Particular Reference to Chernobyl and Fukushima
Dr. Alexy Yablokov, Russian Academy of Sciences – Lessons from Chernobyl
Akio Matsumura, Founder of Global Forum for Parliamentary Leaders on Global Survival – What did the World Learn from the Fukushima Accident?
Robert Alvarez, Senior Scholar, Institute for Policy Studies – Management of Spent Fuel Pools and Radioactive Waste
Management of Spent Fuel Poolsand Radioactive Waste
The Search for Action among Japan’s Ruling Classes
Written By: Website Administrator 12-14-2012 Categorized in: Fukushima
Read this article in Japanese and German.
I just wanted to state that I love all Enenewsers, and will mostly likely be banned for losing my temper. Sometimes you just finally hit your own personal boiling point and Thad found mine. I will not be called a liar. So with no further drama, I just want to say to my fellow thruth seekers…thank you for having me. Paveway, AS, Kali, Anthony, jec, Anne, Cat, Rose, even Vic…thanks for putting up with me, all of you.
If not banned for my outburst, then look forward to better discussions. Each of you and I mean all of you, provide a much needed service of looking beyond the headlines and attempt to strike at the root instead of just hacking at the branches, and each and everyone of you should be commended.
Want to know more then I will drop the link to my last comments for clarification and want the ADMINS to know they can either delete this post or put on off topic. Thanks to all of you. I still do not apologize for losing my temper, for it was justified. Keep up the good fight, and love to all.
FREEDOMROX, The shills provoke you on purpose hoping you will be banned. You have to learn to ignore the provocation. It is hard because we are in life and death situations because of the environment and because TPTB have been dumbed down by radiation and by their culturally dumb beliefs. It is better to let the shills and trolls make fools of themselves and be able to stay on this site to fight for the environment.
Don't let them win. Just take a deep breath and leave the site for as long as it takes to calm down. I do research and then add articles after the comments and dilute the comments that way. Everyone recognizes that you have a lot of information and knowledge to share. Everyone recognizes the shills and trolls who have agendas which ignore the environment and motivates their arguments.
No one listens to the arguments of the trolls and shills. Everyone wants to stay alive.
FR: I see you are angry with your protagonist, but why do you keep returning to argue with him?
A few words of advice from an outstanding American journalist;
"I cannot give you the formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure—which is: Try to please everybody." —Herbert Bayard Swope
SP: My ggg-grandfather lived in Tennesse and knew a man who also had anger issues at times. His name was Davy Crockett. My grandpa followed his advice "First make sure you're right, then go ahead."
Later my grandpa followed his other advice: "You can go to hell — I'm going to Texas".
We can't change our genetics and we can't change the past. But we can learn from what life dishes out, accept it, and keep trying. It's what makes some of us humans instead of naked apes.
I see no reason for you to be banned. Bring us some posts that are human please.
I agree with Anne and Sickputer, Freedomrox. Its all good and you are doing fine. I really think it is essential we be ready to let industry people change their spots if they choose. How we work with this *small* local industrial environmental disaster may impact how we deal with a large one like Fuku. We aren't probably going to be able to fix their mistakes but we sure have to live through them together. You have excellent digging and presentation skills – protect that. Peace On.
They are killing off the whole world including themselves. The reason they push nuclear power plants all over the world, is to make money, but also to create a bomb in the future to control those countries. Just bomb the nuclear power plant from space using "star wars" technology and you detonate the nuclear power plant which is a bomb already in place.
Shock and awe was to scare Americans as well as the whole world. Pretend that WMD are safe. How twisted is that?
Then, as they globalize and sell off all the companies and technology around the world, they aren't even defending America. They are just defending their own private wealth. Traitors is the highest sense of the word. And it doesn't help that they are killing off themselves and "the goose that laid the golden egg", because the death of all life including the planet is an ELE from which there will never be a recovery eternally.
“’Nukes would serve to prevent a non-existent WMD program (e.g Iran) prior to its development,’ the author explains. ‘This twisted formulation goes far beyond the premises of the 2001 Nuclear Posture Review and NPSD 17, which state that the U.S. can retaliate with nuclear weapons if attacked with WMD.’
“And by integrating nuclear with conventional armaments on the battlefield, ‘there is the risk that tactical nuclear weapons could be used without requesting…presidential approval,’ Chossudovsky writes. He asserts, ‘combat commanders would be in charge of Theater Nuclear Operations(TNO), with a mandate not only to implement but also to formulate command decisions pertaining to nuclear weapons.’
Moreover, because these ‘smaller’ tactical nuclear weapons have been reclassified by the Pentagon as ‘safe for the surrounding civilian population,’ thereby allegedly ‘minimizing the risk of collateral damage,’ there are no overriding, built-in restrictions to prevent their use, Chossudovsky writes. Stockpiled tactical nuclear weapons, he concludes, are now considered to be an integral part of the battlefield arsenal, ‘part of the tool box,’ so to speak, used in conventional war theaters….” http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/25/pentagon-held-secret-meeting-with-nuclear-industry-2003/
I just tried 3 different browsers: Google Chrome, Internet Explorer, and Firefox. I can't see a single comment in the thread on any page of the thread.
I can see the Off Topic Thread after I clicked on an old comment in the comment archive. Then I made a comment, but it doesn't show up in the recent comments.
Senators call for investigation of ties between nuclear industry and regulators after AP investigation reveals dangerously permissive relationship and lowered safety standards.
Why Japan's 'Fukushima 50' remain unknown
3 January 2013
“…But those close ties between the Fukushima nuclear workers and Tepco are exacting a terrible psychological toll on the men who saved Japan from a much worse nuclear disaster.” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20707753
More residents refuse nuclear benefits after Fukushima disaster
“The number of households declining benefits for living near nuclear plants has nearly doubled since the Fukushima disaster, reflecting growing opposition to a system long criticized as paying off citizens to promote nuclear power….
” ‘I do not want to receive money collected to promote nuclear power,’ he said. ‘I wanted to directly inform TEPCO that I do not want nuclear power plants.’
The 65-year-old said he did not pay special attention to nuclear power until after the Fukushima disaster. ‘The last thing I want to do is to leave the world tainted with radioactivity to our children and grandchildren.’…”
U.S. nuke crisis team's Fukushima findings wasted
“…The CMRT, consisting of 33 scientists and engineers, arrived at Yokota Air Base on March 16 from Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas and initiated test flights within 12 hours of arriving, according to an NNSA senior official. The CMRT conducted the first round of AMS operations from March 17 to 19, using two U.S. military aircraft.
“The AMS flight operations over Fukushima were conducted around 100 times totaling 525 flight hours until the CMRT left Japan on May 28, 2011, an NNSA official said.
“The CMRT provided radiation data from the first round of AMS operations to the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, then Japan's nuclear regulatory body, and to the Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Ministry from March 18 to 20 via the Foreign Ministry.
“These initial data, however, were not effectively used to make decisions about the early evacuation of residents around the plant, several Japanese sources reiterated recently.
“Yukio Edano, then chief Cabinet secretary, said: "\’We did not get any briefing (about the AMS flights from lower-level officials). At my level, we did not go into any detail (about the operations).’" http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20130101a3.html
Inside silent Fukushima ghost town (VIDEO)
2 January 2013
“It is nearly two years since Japan's nuclear disaster at Fukushima and thousands of people who lived near the plant have still not been allowed to go home.
“Many workers who stayed behind in the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant after the earthquake and tsunami in March 2011 were told by many at the time that they were going to die for their pains.
“BBC Tokyo correspondent Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports on what has happened to them – and the villages around the stricken reactor – since the disaster.” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20896179
"Work restarts on China's biggest nuclear power plant: Xinhua"
"Work on China's largest planned nuclear facility has restarted, state media said on Saturday, a sign that the thaw in the country's nuclear industry is gaining pace after it was frozen in response to Japan's Fukushima atomic crisis in 2011."
….And they are collecting data on the tsunami debris, and asking for any tips and leads, and "looking for volunteers to help collect and collate radiological surveillance information pertaining to the situation in Japan."
"…My colleagues and I are always saying, 'If the mass media were to come and see what's going on now, all hell would break loose.' When a high-ranking state figure came for an inspection, we did everything right. But everything is usually done really shoddily. Sometimes, grass on the side of the road that's been cut is just left there."
As a result, it is common for air radiation levels to remain relatively unchanged after decontamination, the worker said.
"In reality, (decontamination) hasn't been very effective. From our point of view, it's a waste of tax funds. But the government can't very well say they're going to stop decontamination efforts because there's no budget for it. For primary contractors, there's no deal as sweet as this. The more work they take on, the more money they're paid.
"Unless we do something now (since things have come to light), things will get worse. No matter how much tax money we have, it'll never be enough."
You are still able to view the tainted water press release posted on NHK World, but that won't be for long. I assume somebody else is also archiving that stuff, but just in case, be aware that I sure as heck am.
Now, about that press release.
I don't know if it's appropriate to go into what I view as disturbing about the text information and what can be viewed in the video clip, but there's a lot there that tells me that we are very, very far from a safe situation there at Fukushima Daiichi.
How about that 62 kinds of radioactive elements? Has anyone seen that number cited before for Fukushima Daiichi? Does anyone have any idea where a full list of all 62 elements can be found?
Then there is that business about 400 tons of ground water flowing into reactor buildings each day. Each day! That's a heck of a lot of water and I don't recall seeing that number being posted before. Of course, I am probably wrong, but wow — that's some serious contamination of water. And where's it going?
And they write the volume is continuing to rise. By how much?
I don't know. That one press release scares the heck out of me! It scares me that maybe somebody let slip news that hadn't been released before. Maybe I'm wrong.
And that video clip. You see all those tanks? They will surely run out of room to construct tanks. Then what?
Once in a bit NHK does a press release that probably shouldn't have been done, if TEPCO and the government want to hide things.
"…the volume of the water is continuing to rise, increasing radiation levels at the plant. If it leaks outside, it could contaminate the environment."
(It's not 'if' and 'could', it's leaking AND contaminating now!)
"The company plans to pump underground water to prevent it from flowing into reactor buildings. It will also install steel walls underground to block contaminated water from leaking into the sea."
(At least they have a plan, right?)
"Glitches have frequently forced the utility to halt the facility."
(So much for their plan. It looked good on paper.)
"TEPCO also discovered contaminated water leaking from the facility."
(Final sentence.)
In Iitate the low on the 5th was minus 10.7C, and the high today on the 6th was only 3.2C.
Okay, in Namie the low yesterday, the 5th, was minus 10.4C, and today the high was 7.6 and that's not too bad.
My point is we've been having a colder than normal winter this year and I just realized that even radioactive water must freeze, right?
Y'all don't reckon frozen radioactive water could lead to tanks or pipes busting, do you?
Maybe not. Maybe just I worry too much.
I wonder what the deal could be with radioactive snow. You know, when it melts.
But the idea of frozen pipes and/or tanks might be a bigger concern.
But I suppose those bright fellas and gals at TEPCO already thought about all that, right? Or those really clever folks that work for the government. Yep, no need to worry, right?
The 2011-2012 winter really concerned us because of the cheap plastic pipes potentially freezing. Not many reports from Tepco. But we know that several units burned like a big dog for weeks in late December and January. I will blame the Fukushima's Revenge my family suffered from for months on that activity in the wind. And we are 6,000 miles away! I am sensitive to chemicals and probably would already be dead if I had lived in Japan.
Not sure if they have beefed up the pipes for this winter. We will find out soon.
Experts okay restart of worrisome Belgian nuclear plants
Scientific experts have greenlighted the restart of two Belgian nuclear power plants despite signs of micro-cracks in reactor vessels, the daily Le Soir said Saturday.
why can't they just pour concrete over the whole damn thing like they did at chernobyl? even if more concrete has to be poured every 20 years…at least that's something…..
Songie warbled these pixels of light: "why can't they just pour concrete over the whole damn thing like they did at chernobyl? even if more concrete has to be poured every 20 years"
SP: Great question. They may end up doing just that in the long run. But the logistics are different at Daiichi because they are facing the problem of a megaplex.
This huge complex is the second largest nuclear plant in the world with 6 nuclear reactor buildings, 3 that have core meltdowns down into the subsoil, and a huge Common Spent Fuel Pond only 50 yards away from Unit 4. Putting a steel and concrete dome over that is a Herculean task that boggles the engineering mind and disturbs the bankers.
The runaway cores also presents a challenge as engineers will differ on the issue of covering these hot monsters. The threat of China Syndrome-type nuclear explosions might be possible for years to come and a dome could make the explosion risk worse.
Suffice it to say I doubt Japanese nucleocrats are going to do anything radical or anything costly to try and extinguish the radiation releases. They seem content to let it burn out over the next millennia.
In so doing they may be dooming the Japanese people to continued radioactive bioaccumulation that will shorten their lives and make their products become unwanted by foreign buyers.
For one thing songie, it just postpones the inevitable for future generations.
It's a gutless act to not man up the drama that we face, it needs to be 'decommissioned' now.
Not doing anything now continues to cover up the fatally dangerous situation and industry. The nukers get away scott free if no one does anything about it.
The criminals that should be hanging from the highest tree continue to lead a life of freedom and luxury, while over 100,000 people are permanently displaced from their homeland and the flora and fauna of the area are being contaminated and left to die.
Busloads of people should be arriving every day and they should be deployed to dismantle the facility. Most will die. Tepco.guv need to wake up to the fact that all of us, including all life on earth will perish if this work is not done.
This is the big crime with nukes. They leave horrendous levels of deadly toxic waste. Nukers steal the birthright of future generations by handing them the responsibility to deal with the waste, even though they may never receive any benefit, only suffering.
How many 20 years cycles of concrete do you expect is going to happen to chern ? 10, 20, maybe 50. That's a thousand years of denial. For the sake of gutless and selfish ancestors who wanted to boil water.
Nukes are futurecide and ecocide. So you're right, at least it's something.
Thank-you SP and Richard for your thoughts on my question about concrete. Although I still think a big enough structure could be built….think of the great pyramids….. of course an increased risk of explosion is no good…
also, although it would in a way be left for future generations to deal with; in a way, we would be protecting future generations by limiting the current and future exposure to the people who are going to give birth to those future generations…hopefully minimizing the genetic malformations of future generations….. sigh, no good choices
…If the government decides that it cannot use the plutonium, it will be breaking international pledges aimed at preventing the spread of weapons-grade nuclear material.
It already has enough plutonium to make hundreds of nuclear bombs — 10 tons of it at home and the rest in Britain and France, where Japan's spent fuel is usually processed.
"Our nuclear policy was a fiction," former National Policy Minister Seiji Maehara told a Diet panel in November.
"We have been aware of the two crucial problems. One is the fuel cycle: The fast-breeder is not ready. The other is the back-end (waste disposal) issue," he said."They had never been resolved, but we pushed for the nuclear programs anyway," Maehara said.
…MOX was also burned in four of the country's conventional reactors beginning in 2009.
Three of the conventional reactors that used MOX were shut down for regular inspections around the time three Fukushima reactors exploded and melted down following the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami.
The fourth reactor that used MOX was among those that melted down.
Plant and government officials deny that the reactor explosion was related to MOX, although traces of plutonium from the unit were found far away from the plant afterward.
Japan hopes to use MOX fuel in as many as 18 reactors by 2015, according to a Rokkasho brochure produced by its…
1: The rods that they pulled out of pool #4 were (BLACK, Smooth-sided) dummy rods that are used to train users to move such about without damaging them.
2: Real rods would have irradiated the workers holding it in this farce, and they would have most-likely have died within 3 days.
3: They didn't burn. Yet, withing about 10 min. of removing a real used, or non-used rod from the water like that, they would heat up and start the zircaloy cladding burning… FYI, water doesn't put such fires out, once begun.
4: The (So-CALLED) rod they removed from the pool and inspected in the common pool building? Hum, doesn't even come close to a match of the rod they extracted from the pool, nor if one isn't blind… had that rod they take apart in the common pool building ever seen, nor been touched by such water at any time! This is rather obvious, do remember… they pumped salt water into all of them pools! That rods is clearly brand-spanking new, and the core-rods held within it are quite empty!
5: Need I even point out, that urainium isn't a light metal? Do please notice how that rod-core segment is being handeled!?
6: Does anyone remember what happens when you vid a rad source? Where's all our sparkles?
Gotta love the little Japanese nucleocrat scoundrels for their efforts to bullshit the world.
And what will do them in won't be the justice system. The verdict of history and Dr. Strangelove chemicals will be their own undoing.
Mih queries: "Now, back to the content. How about that 62 kinds of radioactive elements. Has anyone seen that number cited before for Fukushima Daiichi? Does anyone have any idea where a full list of all 62 elemnts would be?
Then there is that business about 400 tons of ground water flowing into reactor buildings each day. Each day! That's a heck of a lot of water and I don't recall seeing that number being posted before. Of course, I am probably wrong, but wow — that's some serious contamination of water. And where's it going?
And they write the volume is continuing to rise. By how much?"
SP: More than 62: "There are approximately one hundred major radioactive nuclides which can be found in a reactor system"
So doing a little estimation math based on my figures (and their figures) from 4 months ago.. Maybe the 56 ton differential is the boiloff factor of radioactive steam daily going up into the wind. Nasty bioaccumulation.
Blast from the past…Arnie Gundersen April 6, 2011:
"…Areva, which is a French nuclear conglomerate, probably one of the largest in the industry. As reported in the New York Times on March 23rd: there was an invitation-only meeting at Stanford University on the 21st of March, this is ten days after the accident, where Areva presented some pretty significant problems that the public was not being made aware of. We’ve been able to get a hold of the Areva report that was presented there. Now, the Areva report is pretty damning, but in fact there’s information in it that’s wrong. I will, next time, be discussing [the] problems with the Areva report that actually make the situation worse. The Areva report talks about the fact that it’s known that the nuclear fuel in all three reactors reached five thousand degrees [5,000 degrees Celsius].
That’s beyond the melting point of stainless steel, and beyond the melting point of zircalloy which means that a disintegration of the core is pretty obvious. The Areva report talks about Unit 2 in particular and identifies that the core, [correction] that the containment was breached by a hydrogen explosion. We look at Units 1, 3 and 4 and see the roofs blown off, and [Unit] 2 looks pretty good. What happened at Unit 2, though, was that the hydrogen built up inside then somehow ignited. "
"The other thing that the Areva report talks about is that they recommend control of crops and dairy products out to fifty kilometers (50 km). That’s about thirty miles (30 mi.) away from the plant. That means that they believe that radiation has exceeded well beyond what the emergency evacuation zone is, and that both crops and dairy products may be contaminated.
Areva also spends a lot of time talking about Unit 4. That’s the one that has no fuel in the reactor, but exploded anyway. They basically said that this was a core melt in fresh air. The reason the core melted on Unit 4, Areva believes, is that the fuel pool cracked from the earthquake. So the water didn’t boil out of Unit 4 like we’ve been led to believe. There was a crack in the fuel pool from the earthquake and now, with no water, a zircalloy-hydrogen reaction was inevitable."
SP: I like that term "core melt in fresh air" for the Unit 4 spent fuel pond.
I'm doing some work related to your 2nd post up, but just hit a snag.
I can't find the source for this:
<i>"Sounds logical since the three units are leaking over 400 tons a day."</i>
I found the full text of the NYTimes article that was the basis for that page on ENE that link takes us to, but I see nothing there about that figure of 400 tons. Could you help me with that, please.
Most Japanese digital articles have been purged except for cached Google descriptions showing the 400 tons of water figure. But other sites have reference to Tepco's announcement and it is probably in their archived daily releases (on iPhone and research is difficult for pdfs).
"Each day about 400 tons of underground water has been flowing into reactor buildings since a nuclear accident triggered by the disaster on March 11th, 2011. The water becomes contaminated with radioactive materials."
Another dead 400 tons Japanese link, but the comments are still there!
"The water in the basement of reactors 1-3 is 10 plus sieverts/hr. There are cracks in the containment vessels and the suppression chambers and the cooling water is leaking at 400 tons per day. The cracks can't be repaired, even by robots, until all the water is removed and the dangerous radiation levels drop which will probably take several decades so there's no immediate solution to the problem"
I appreciate the reference to the comments, but what I need are the actual press releases. I seemed to have missed that NHK World press release on that date — …/20120910_03.html — but I found it on the French site and have filled in our files.
Now the last lines are these:
<i>"Contaminated water levels have continued to rise at a pace of about 400 tons a day due to groundwater inflow. That has filled almost 90 percent of the plant's storage tanks.
Tokyo Electric plans to add tanks with a total capacity of 470,000 tons to store the water for 3 years. But the work will require the cutting of trees at the plant."</i>
Now the way I read that is the groundwater is just one source that *overall* leads to 400 tons of contaminated water a day, not as JUST 400 tons of groundwater leaking in. Earlier in that press release they are refering to the coolant water they are intentionally injecting into the reactors. So I am reading that as intentional injection of water (obviously becomes contaminated) plus the groundwater getting in = 400 tons.
But I sure appreciate the help. For one thing I found something missing from our own records. You see, we stopped archiving everything from NHK World in early 2012. That was a lot of work everyday and just couldn't be maintained. We still try to grab what seems important, but we obviously miss things from time-to-time, like on September 9th.
This is day number 669 for disasters born on March 11, 2011
Your 1,000th day will be December 4 this year!
Your 5,000th day will be November 16, 2024!
Your 10,000th day will be July 26, 2038!
Your 15,000th day will be April 3, 2052!
Your 20,000th day will be December 11, 2065!
Your 25,000th day will be August 20, 2079!
Your 30,000th day will be April 28, 2093!
Your 35,000th day will be January 6, 2107!
…and after that we're getting pretty damned optimistic.
Thanks to: The Amazing Days Alive Calculator by John and Abby Schoneboom
Oh dear, am I slow, or what? I see you got two posts in while I was poking along with my post. But that quote I sued identifies the post I was referring to.
And I do know how to use question marks. I see I missed on in my post up there.
Thanks patb…I knew it was more, but couldn't find on my phone the website I remembered reading. HPS.org seemed like a fair candidate for reliable facts, but oh well!
great flag anne! Demonstrates the double-standard applied to any-and-all of isrealies actions. The AEIA says nothing about the 400+ nuclear weapons possessed by a nation that adamantly refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation accords, yet Iran is a member and fully compliant with these regulations. As we say on the streets, "…go figga!"
If you go to the comments below you find what they said..
Part of it said:
It was revealed to us by a family member that whilst working for an oil company both mines were drilled and filled with nucleur waste using the cheapest containers back in the early 1990's.
We have had support from a C.N.D campaigner , and visited both sites with thermometers and geiger counters and other scientific equipment and the results were frightening,especially at Asfordby Mine, the needle nearly went off the geiger counter.
Ah yes, nuclear waste dumping by Areva and English partners is all supposed to be on the up and up. Certainly those stalwart business citizens wouldn't drop their stools where it isn't allowed? You think?
It doesn't surprise me if any French companies dumped waste on our doorstep.The sea dumping everyone did was irresponsible to say the least.
After all they said Chernobyl fallout stopped at their borders and went straight to us. Lol..
You would think so haha..
I'd like it not to be too and not dump it on your own doorstep..
But then again why would someone make it up? Either way I'm not far away from the mines so I could have a look..
I read on the previous page about your blogging on nuclear news and that, and I just wanted to say keep up the work!
I did wonder why you hadn't posted on here much, and I've personally been busy with other related things but glad your still around!
You know if your not using your Inspector much you can always let me 'borrow' it? You know as a fellow countryman and all lol!
I've got a low level waste landfill 20 miles away where I could easily test it haha!
Arc sez: "hi its all lies….still sniffing around the hallowed halls of enenews though…
SP: Yes, the Mark Twain rumor that like Lawrence of Arabia our beloved arclight had fallen off his motorbike is completely an exaggeration. >;->. Still ripping around like Sherlock Holmes!
Arnie Gundersen's recent podcast mentions New Brunswick Lab in New Jersey. The lab was moved to Argonne Nat'l Lab in Illinois (15 min from my house) where they continued work on Plutonium. I know they have done a lot of clean up and removal of areas contaminated by radiation at Argonne but based upon the government's track record of sites where atomic energy is researched I can't believe they have the place 100% cleaned up.
Here is a link about the lab: http://www.acquisitioninstitute.com/uploads/PWS_LAB_SERVICES.pdf
EPA looking into elevated radiation levels in Northwest Indiana.
"Jensen, a former EPA employee, conducted his own study of radiation levels and concluded that levels in the town are elevated."
"An EPA official in November said the methodology used by Jensen's study doesn't conform to current EPA standards."
"Jensen has said he isn't aware of any radiation-related health problems suffered by the town's 780 residents but worries about problems down the road." – from SFC article
(This paragraph is missing from the original article?)
"In his own study, Jensen said he found readings that were more than twice normal “background” levels; however the EPA says that Jensen’s methods do not conform to current EPA standards.
Jensen contests that is not the whole story.
“We were criticized for not doing it by EPA protocol when the people who collected that data on behalf of NIPSCO and Brown also did not follow EPA protocol,” Jensen said. “What we did was not try to be elaborate but see if something is here. If the EPA wants to use their protocol, that’s fine by us. … And what we did certainly shows there is a call for them to do their own study, either to contest what we found or determine if there is a risk.”
My 18 year old niece has a thyroid nodule, hormone levels are okay but they are going to do a needle biopsy.
So my pragmatic approach is:
1) If non-cancerous now. Do they do a follow up biopsy in a year, two years forever? How long before it is considered not at risk of becoming a cancer if ever?
2) If cancerous is the only treatment removal of whole thyroid then replacement hormones? Has anyone just had the nodule removed and left the remainder of the thyroid intact?
Excerpts: "The day [USS] G.Washington evacuated Yokosuka [March 21], possible explosion happened in reactor3 to melt the concrete of PCV."
"Potassium iodide pills were distributed to sailors and families remaining at the naval base and at the Atsugi Naval Air Facility. (*1)
Capt. Kenneth Reynard commented, “As conditions at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant deteriorated, it was crucial that we brought the skilled workers along with us to sea.”
SP: The GW was the first nuclear ship permanently deployed in Japan back in 2005. As for the evacuation in the early days after Unit 3 exploded…it became a mad flight to escape for 3,000 US navy dependents:
"Yokosuka Naval Base was quiet by Friday, with thousands of its sailors deployed on a fleet of ships off the tsunami-ravaged northern coastline and 3,008 dependents signed up for departure flights having already left."
"Hundreds of other family members had left Yokosuka after purchasing tickets for commercial flights prior to the military announcing its program on March 17.
About 2,000 from Naval Air Facility Atsugi, 1,350 from Misawa Air Base, 600 from Yokota Air Base and 300 from Camp Zama have left or will be gone by Saturday, with people from each of those bases departing from commercial airports through flights arranged by the U.S. military.
While some services at bases throughout Japan have been limited or canceled by the unfolding natural disaster and subsequent mass exodus from the military community, all schools in mainland Japan were all still open as of Friday."
SP: So how many high ranking naval officer wives and children took those expensive one-way commercial flights (about $5000 a seat)? Notice they left BEFORE Unit 3 blew and the plume passed across the base.
Fukushima “Decontamination” Measures Are Making Things Worse
Corruption and Cover-Up Lead to SPREAD – Rather than Containment – of Radiation from Fukushima Disaster
• “Japan has severely underplayed the amount of radiation from Fukushima, putting Japanese residents and U.S. navy sailors in jeopardy
• “Experts call Japan cleanup effort meaningless … an endless task that’s simply spreading around radiation
• “Tepco has taken extraordinary steps to hide radiation by blocking radiation monitors with thick metal and other foreign objects. And see this
“In a series of essays called “Crooked Cleanup”, leading Japanese news source Asahi shows the level of corruption and incompetence….” http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-decontamination-measures-are-making-things-worse/5318105
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Symposium: The Medical and Ecological Consequences of Fukushima, March 11-12, 2013
Save the Date:
Symposium: The Medical and Ecological Consequences of the Fukushima Nuclear Accident l March 11-12, 2013
at The New York Academy of Medicine, New York City, NY
A unique, two-day symposium at which an international panel of leading medical and biological scientists, nuclear engineers, and policy experts will make presentations on and discuss the bio-medical and ecological consequences of the Fukushima disaster, will be held at The New York Academy of Medicine on March 11-12, 2013, the second anniversary of the accident. The public is welcome.
http://nuclearfreeplanet.org/categories/fukushima.html
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Chaired by Donald Louria, MD, Chairman Emeritus of the Department of Preventive Medicine and Community Health of the University of Medicine and Dentistry, New Jersey, the symposium is a project of The Helen Caldicott Foundation.
Confirmed speakers include:
Dr. Tim Mousseau, Professor of Biological Sciences , University of South Carolina – Chernobyl, Fukushima and Other Hot Places, Biological Consequences
Ken Buesseler, Marine Scientist , Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute –Consequences for the Ocean of the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant Accident
David Lochbaum, The Union of Concerned Scientists – Another Unsurprising Surprise
Dr. Wladimir Wertelecki, Chairman, Department of Medical Genetics and Birth Defects, University of South Alabama– Congenital Malformations in Rivne Polossia associated with the Chernobyl Accident
Dr. Marek Niedziela, Professor of Pediatrics, Poznan (Poland) University of Medical Sciences – Thyroid Pathology in Children with Particular Reference to Chernobyl and Fukushima
Dr. Alexy Yablokov, Russian Academy of Sciences – Lessons from Chernobyl
Akio Matsumura, Founder of Global Forum for Parliamentary Leaders on Global Survival – What did the World Learn from the Fukushima Accident?
Robert Alvarez, Senior Scholar, Institute for Policy Studies – Management of Spent Fuel Pools and Radioactive Waste
Management of Spent Fuel Poolsand Radioactive Waste
Registration details will be available soon.
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For further information about the symposium, contact: Mali Lightfoot, Executive Director, The Helen Caldicott Foundation.
Email: MaliLightfoot@gmail.com, t) 617-650-5048
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+1000000. Anthony, are you going to post this also in the forum for upcoming meetings?
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The Search for Action among Japan’s Ruling Classes
Written By: Website Administrator 12-14-2012 Categorized in: Fukushima
Read this article in Japanese and German.
By Akio Matsumura l November 14, 2012
http://nuclearfreeplanet.org/blogs/the-search-for-action-among-japan%E2%80%99s-ruling-classes-2.html
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I just wanted to state that I love all Enenewsers, and will mostly likely be banned for losing my temper. Sometimes you just finally hit your own personal boiling point and Thad found mine. I will not be called a liar. So with no further drama, I just want to say to my fellow thruth seekers…thank you for having me. Paveway, AS, Kali, Anthony, jec, Anne, Cat, Rose, even Vic…thanks for putting up with me, all of you.
If not banned for my outburst, then look forward to better discussions. Each of you and I mean all of you, provide a much needed service of looking beyond the headlines and attempt to strike at the root instead of just hacking at the branches, and each and everyone of you should be commended.
Want to know more then I will drop the link to my last comments for clarification and want the ADMINS to know they can either delete this post or put on off topic. Thanks to all of you. I still do not apologize for losing my temper, for it was justified. Keep up the good fight, and love to all.
http://enenews.com/new-close-ups-giant-sinkhole-tree-trunks-coated-oil-crude-sheen-floating-surface-land-falls-photos/comment-page-1#comment-321164
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FREEDOMROX, The shills provoke you on purpose hoping you will be banned. You have to learn to ignore the provocation. It is hard because we are in life and death situations because of the environment and because TPTB have been dumbed down by radiation and by their culturally dumb beliefs. It is better to let the shills and trolls make fools of themselves and be able to stay on this site to fight for the environment.
Don't let them win. Just take a deep breath and leave the site for as long as it takes to calm down. I do research and then add articles after the comments and dilute the comments that way. Everyone recognizes that you have a lot of information and knowledge to share. Everyone recognizes the shills and trolls who have agendas which ignore the environment and motivates their arguments.
No one listens to the arguments of the trolls and shills. Everyone wants to stay alive.
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FR: I see you are angry with your protagonist, but why do you keep returning to argue with him?
A few words of advice from an outstanding American journalist;
"I cannot give you the formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure—which is: Try to please everybody." —Herbert Bayard Swope
SP: My ggg-grandfather lived in Tennesse and knew a man who also had anger issues at times. His name was Davy Crockett. My grandpa followed his advice "First make sure you're right, then go ahead."
Later my grandpa followed his other advice: "You can go to hell — I'm going to Texas".
We can't change our genetics and we can't change the past. But we can learn from what life dishes out, accept it, and keep trying. It's what makes some of us humans instead of naked apes.
I see no reason for you to be banned. Bring us some posts that are human please.
Cheers,
SP
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I agree with Anne and Sickputer, Freedomrox. Its all good and you are doing fine. I really think it is essential we be ready to let industry people change their spots if they choose. How we work with this *small* local industrial environmental disaster may impact how we deal with a large one like Fuku. We aren't probably going to be able to fix their mistakes but we sure have to live through them together. You have excellent digging and presentation skills – protect that. Peace On.
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Treasure trove for diggers..
just searched mox, got 2779 matches, first article I learned of mox experiment in Idaho from 1998 to 2004.. ugh that link is here http://www.inl.gov/technicalpublications/Documents/3310910.pdf
treasure trove here: http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/basicsearch.jsp
Don't forget to connect the dots..
Tired and now even more depressed.. bastards.. with our tax $$ too.. how humiliating.
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Pentagon Held Secret Meeting With Nuclear Industry 2003
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/25/pentagon-held-secret-meeting-with-nuclear-industry-2003/
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They are killing off the whole world including themselves. The reason they push nuclear power plants all over the world, is to make money, but also to create a bomb in the future to control those countries. Just bomb the nuclear power plant from space using "star wars" technology and you detonate the nuclear power plant which is a bomb already in place.
Shock and awe was to scare Americans as well as the whole world. Pretend that WMD are safe. How twisted is that?
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Then, as they globalize and sell off all the companies and technology around the world, they aren't even defending America. They are just defending their own private wealth. Traitors is the highest sense of the word. And it doesn't help that they are killing off themselves and "the goose that laid the golden egg", because the death of all life including the planet is an ELE from which there will never be a recovery eternally.
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“’Nukes would serve to prevent a non-existent WMD program (e.g Iran) prior to its development,’ the author explains. ‘This twisted formulation goes far beyond the premises of the 2001 Nuclear Posture Review and NPSD 17, which state that the U.S. can retaliate with nuclear weapons if attacked with WMD.’
“And by integrating nuclear with conventional armaments on the battlefield, ‘there is the risk that tactical nuclear weapons could be used without requesting…presidential approval,’ Chossudovsky writes. He asserts, ‘combat commanders would be in charge of Theater Nuclear Operations(TNO), with a mandate not only to implement but also to formulate command decisions pertaining to nuclear weapons.’
Moreover, because these ‘smaller’ tactical nuclear weapons have been reclassified by the Pentagon as ‘safe for the surrounding civilian population,’ thereby allegedly ‘minimizing the risk of collateral damage,’ there are no overriding, built-in restrictions to prevent their use, Chossudovsky writes. Stockpiled tactical nuclear weapons, he concludes, are now considered to be an integral part of the battlefield arsenal, ‘part of the tool box,’ so to speak, used in conventional war theaters….”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/25/pentagon-held-secret-meeting-with-nuclear-industry-2003/
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"American Nuclear Energy budget to increase in 2012 – “Better than we had anticipated”
http://enformable.com/2011/12/american-nuclear-energy-budget-to-increase-in-2012-better-than-we-had-anticipated/
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for those who think that Earth-South will be safe to escape too?
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?p=earth+axis+wobble&back=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dearth%2Baxis%2Bwobble&w=672&h=612&imgurl=usspost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F01%2FEarth-Wobble.gif&size=12KB&name=Earth-Wobble.gif&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fusspost.com%2Fearth-wobble-26238%2F&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fusspost.com%2Fearth-wobble-26238%2F&type=&no=2&tt=115&oid=206ddee398d449d746b0cf7847a83fcb&tit=Earth+Wobble+%2C+Lunar+gravity+made+the+Earth+wobble+on+its+axis+in+a+…&sigr=116dud6u2&sigi=11n80ccke&sigb=11r539ipb&fr=mcsaoffblock
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I haven't been above to see anything in the Forum for Off Topic Discussion since this morning.
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I just tried 3 different browsers: Google Chrome, Internet Explorer, and Firefox. I can't see a single comment in the thread on any page of the thread.
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I can see the Off Topic Thread after I clicked on an old comment in the comment archive. Then I made a comment, but it doesn't show up in the recent comments.
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Senators call for investigation of ties between nuclear industry and regulators after AP investigation reveals dangerously permissive relationship and lowered safety standards.
http://www.corporatewhistleblower.net/?p=268
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Double atomic bomb survivor tells story to help Fukushima victims
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/people/AJ201301050008
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Why Japan's 'Fukushima 50' remain unknown
3 January 2013
“…But those close ties between the Fukushima nuclear workers and Tepco are exacting a terrible psychological toll on the men who saved Japan from a much worse nuclear disaster.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20707753
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More residents refuse nuclear benefits after Fukushima disaster
“The number of households declining benefits for living near nuclear plants has nearly doubled since the Fukushima disaster, reflecting growing opposition to a system long criticized as paying off citizens to promote nuclear power….
” ‘I do not want to receive money collected to promote nuclear power,’ he said. ‘I wanted to directly inform TEPCO that I do not want nuclear power plants.’
The 65-year-old said he did not pay special attention to nuclear power until after the Fukushima disaster. ‘The last thing I want to do is to leave the world tainted with radioactivity to our children and grandchildren.’…”
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201301020092
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U.S. nuke crisis team's Fukushima findings wasted
“…The CMRT, consisting of 33 scientists and engineers, arrived at Yokota Air Base on March 16 from Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas and initiated test flights within 12 hours of arriving, according to an NNSA senior official. The CMRT conducted the first round of AMS operations from March 17 to 19, using two U.S. military aircraft.
“The AMS flight operations over Fukushima were conducted around 100 times totaling 525 flight hours until the CMRT left Japan on May 28, 2011, an NNSA official said.
“The CMRT provided radiation data from the first round of AMS operations to the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, then Japan's nuclear regulatory body, and to the Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Ministry from March 18 to 20 via the Foreign Ministry.
“These initial data, however, were not effectively used to make decisions about the early evacuation of residents around the plant, several Japanese sources reiterated recently.
“Yukio Edano, then chief Cabinet secretary, said: "\’We did not get any briefing (about the AMS flights from lower-level officials). At my level, we did not go into any detail (about the operations).’"
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20130101a3.html
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Inside silent Fukushima ghost town (VIDEO)
2 January 2013
“It is nearly two years since Japan's nuclear disaster at Fukushima and thousands of people who lived near the plant have still not been allowed to go home.
“Many workers who stayed behind in the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant after the earthquake and tsunami in March 2011 were told by many at the time that they were going to die for their pains.
“BBC Tokyo correspondent Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports on what has happened to them – and the villages around the stricken reactor – since the disaster.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20896179
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if the reporter isn't wearing a hazmat suit or even a face mask, who will believe it is dangerous to be there? what the heck is he thinking anyway?
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Nice work and find anne.
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What happened to the links found st the bottom of the pages to Fukushima Diary, Fairewinds, etc?
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The DrudgeReport, which for some reason will not post any new news on the situation at Fukushima, reported this today:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/05/us-china-nuclear-construction-idUSBRE90405U20130105
"Work restarts on China's biggest nuclear power plant: Xinhua"
"Work on China's largest planned nuclear facility has restarted, state media said on Saturday, a sign that the thaw in the country's nuclear industry is gaining pace after it was frozen in response to Japan's Fukushima atomic crisis in 2011."
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The Davistown Museum website has been a wealth of information on Chernobyl radiation in U.S. food:
http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad6.html
….They have also written a book on Fukushima:
http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad6.html
….They have an (inactive) blog with information on Fukushima:
http://biocatastrophe.blogspot.com/2011/03/nuclear-disaster-in-japan.html
….And they are collecting data on the tsunami debris, and asking for any tips and leads, and "looking for volunteers to help collect and collate radiological surveillance information pertaining to the situation in Japan."
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Evacuees told they'll need to stay away for a generation
http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/recovery/AJ201301050053
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No solution to tainted water at Fukushima plant
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20130105_05.html
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Universities receive 1.7 bil. yen in donations from power industry
http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20130104p2g00m0dm012000c.html
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New Ft.Calhoun Nuclear Plant Report Shows More Safety Violations
http://www.simplyinfo.org/?p=9090
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Decontamination worker says illicit dumping is daily occurrence
http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20130105p2a00m0na015000c.html
"…My colleagues and I are always saying, 'If the mass media were to come and see what's going on now, all hell would break loose.' When a high-ranking state figure came for an inspection, we did everything right. But everything is usually done really shoddily. Sometimes, grass on the side of the road that's been cut is just left there."
As a result, it is common for air radiation levels to remain relatively unchanged after decontamination, the worker said.
"In reality, (decontamination) hasn't been very effective. From our point of view, it's a waste of tax funds. But the government can't very well say they're going to stop decontamination efforts because there's no budget for it. For primary contractors, there's no deal as sweet as this. The more work they take on, the more money they're paid.
"Unless we do something now (since things have come to light), things will get worse. No matter how much tax money we have, it'll never be enough."
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You are still able to view the tainted water press release posted on NHK World, but that won't be for long. I assume somebody else is also archiving that stuff, but just in case, be aware that I sure as heck am.
Now, about that press release.
I don't know if it's appropriate to go into what I view as disturbing about the text information and what can be viewed in the video clip, but there's a lot there that tells me that we are very, very far from a safe situation there at Fukushima Daiichi.
How about that 62 kinds of radioactive elements? Has anyone seen that number cited before for Fukushima Daiichi? Does anyone have any idea where a full list of all 62 elements can be found?
Then there is that business about 400 tons of ground water flowing into reactor buildings each day. Each day! That's a heck of a lot of water and I don't recall seeing that number being posted before. Of course, I am probably wrong, but wow — that's some serious contamination of water. And where's it going?
And they write the volume is continuing to rise. By how much?
I don't know. That one press release scares the heck out of me! It scares me that maybe somebody let slip news that hadn't been released before. Maybe I'm wrong.
And that video clip. You see all those tanks? They will surely run out of room to construct tanks. Then what?
Once in a bit NHK does a press release that probably shouldn't have been done, if TEPCO and the government want to hide things.
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"…the volume of the water is continuing to rise, increasing radiation levels at the plant. If it leaks outside, it could contaminate the environment."
(It's not 'if' and 'could', it's leaking AND contaminating now!)
"The company plans to pump underground water to prevent it from flowing into reactor buildings. It will also install steel walls underground to block contaminated water from leaking into the sea."
(At least they have a plan, right?)
"Glitches have frequently forced the utility to halt the facility."
(So much for their plan. It looked good on paper.)
(Final sentence.)
the article and video
'No solution to tainted water at Fukushima plant'
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20130105_05.html
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In Iitate the low on the 5th was minus 10.7C, and the high today on the 6th was only 3.2C.
Okay, in Namie the low yesterday, the 5th, was minus 10.4C, and today the high was 7.6 and that's not too bad.
My point is we've been having a colder than normal winter this year and I just realized that even radioactive water must freeze, right?
Y'all don't reckon frozen radioactive water could lead to tanks or pipes busting, do you?
Maybe not. Maybe just I worry too much.
I wonder what the deal could be with radioactive snow. You know, when it melts.
But the idea of frozen pipes and/or tanks might be a bigger concern.
But I suppose those bright fellas and gals at TEPCO already thought about all that, right? Or those really clever folks that work for the government. Yep, no need to worry, right?
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The 2011-2012 winter really concerned us because of the cheap plastic pipes potentially freezing. Not many reports from Tepco. But we know that several units burned like a big dog for weeks in late December and January. I will blame the Fukushima's Revenge my family suffered from for months on that activity in the wind. And we are 6,000 miles away! I am sensitive to chemicals and probably would already be dead if I had lived in Japan.
Not sure if they have beefed up the pipes for this winter. We will find out soon.
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Experts okay restart of worrisome Belgian nuclear plants
Scientific experts have greenlighted the restart of two Belgian nuclear power plants despite signs of micro-cracks in reactor vessels, the daily Le Soir said Saturday.
http://phys.org/news/2013-01-experts-restart-worrisome-belgian-nuclear.html#jCp
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Murder she-Mother Earth -said:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/visakhapatnam/Anti-Kovvada-relay-hunger-stir-from-today/articleshow/17658832.cms?
See my comment there.
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Bluefin Tuna sells For Record $1.76 Million http://bit.ly/UzjoR3 Despite cesium contamination from Fukushima
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Japanese Sushi anyone?
Fresh Bluefin Tuna sold for $3,600 per pound today in Japan.
486 lb tuna:
That's $1.76 million–or roughly the price of a mansion in most states–for a fish. That's one expensive hunk of sushi.
Someday we may look back at this purchase as the "good ol' days" when fish was really cheap and still 'possibly' edible.
There was…
NO MENTION of RADIATION as being a cause or reason for higher prices.
NO MENTION of any testing for contamination.
also via yahoo
(same story)
http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/50564/bluefin+tuna+sells+for+record+176+million+in+japan+sushi+anyone/
Maybe it's because there are many who will read this and assume it's safe to eat pacific seafood. That is sad and unjust/lopsided reporting.
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Oh..jumping joy..wise words from FEMA
Before a nuclear blast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BL_tRNtM_Y
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why can't they just pour concrete over the whole damn thing like they did at chernobyl? even if more concrete has to be poured every 20 years…at least that's something…..
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It's too hot now. It would cause an explosion.
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Songie warbled these pixels of light: "why can't they just pour concrete over the whole damn thing like they did at chernobyl? even if more concrete has to be poured every 20 years"
SP: Great question. They may end up doing just that in the long run. But the logistics are different at Daiichi because they are facing the problem of a megaplex.
This huge complex is the second largest nuclear plant in the world with 6 nuclear reactor buildings, 3 that have core meltdowns down into the subsoil, and a huge Common Spent Fuel Pond only 50 yards away from Unit 4. Putting a steel and concrete dome over that is a Herculean task that boggles the engineering mind and disturbs the bankers.
The runaway cores also presents a challenge as engineers will differ on the issue of covering these hot monsters. The threat of China Syndrome-type nuclear explosions might be possible for years to come and a dome could make the explosion risk worse.
Suffice it to say I doubt Japanese nucleocrats are going to do anything radical or anything costly to try and extinguish the radiation releases. They seem content to let it burn out over the next millennia.
In so doing they may be dooming the Japanese people to continued radioactive bioaccumulation that will shorten their lives and make their products become unwanted by foreign buyers.
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Japan is now, and forever, a nuclear wasteland. The islands will die as the corium is left to burn.
Why the Japanese people don't rise up and take action is beyond me, there is no chance of long term survival.
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For one thing songie, it just postpones the inevitable for future generations.
It's a gutless act to not man up the drama that we face, it needs to be 'decommissioned' now.
Not doing anything now continues to cover up the fatally dangerous situation and industry. The nukers get away scott free if no one does anything about it.
The criminals that should be hanging from the highest tree continue to lead a life of freedom and luxury, while over 100,000 people are permanently displaced from their homeland and the flora and fauna of the area are being contaminated and left to die.
Busloads of people should be arriving every day and they should be deployed to dismantle the facility. Most will die. Tepco.guv need to wake up to the fact that all of us, including all life on earth will perish if this work is not done.
This is the big crime with nukes. They leave horrendous levels of deadly toxic waste. Nukers steal the birthright of future generations by handing them the responsibility to deal with the waste, even though they may never receive any benefit, only suffering.
How many 20 years cycles of concrete do you expect is going to happen to chern ? 10, 20, maybe 50. That's a thousand years of denial. For the sake of gutless and selfish ancestors who wanted to boil water.
Nukes are futurecide and ecocide. So you're right, at least it's something.
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Thank-you SP and Richard for your thoughts on my question about concrete. Although I still think a big enough structure could be built….think of the great pyramids….. of course an increased risk of explosion is no good…
also, although it would in a way be left for future generations to deal with; in a way, we would be protecting future generations by limiting the current and future exposure to the people who are going to give birth to those future generations…hopefully minimizing the genetic malformations of future generations….. sigh, no good choices
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As plutonium hoard grows, so do Japan's headaches
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20130107a3.html
…If the government decides that it cannot use the plutonium, it will be breaking international pledges aimed at preventing the spread of weapons-grade nuclear material.
It already has enough plutonium to make hundreds of nuclear bombs — 10 tons of it at home and the rest in Britain and France, where Japan's spent fuel is usually processed.
"Our nuclear policy was a fiction," former National Policy Minister Seiji Maehara told a Diet panel in November.
"We have been aware of the two crucial problems. One is the fuel cycle: The fast-breeder is not ready. The other is the back-end (waste disposal) issue," he said."They had never been resolved, but we pushed for the nuclear programs anyway," Maehara said.
…MOX was also burned in four of the country's conventional reactors beginning in 2009.
Three of the conventional reactors that used MOX were shut down for regular inspections around the time three Fukushima reactors exploded and melted down following the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami.
The fourth reactor that used MOX was among those that melted down.
Plant and government officials deny that the reactor explosion was related to MOX, although traces of plutonium from the unit were found far away from the plant afterward.
Japan hopes to use MOX fuel in as many as 18 reactors by 2015, according to a Rokkasho brochure produced by its…
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Enformable has a nifty Film showcase of lies.
1: The rods that they pulled out of pool #4 were (BLACK, Smooth-sided) dummy rods that are used to train users to move such about without damaging them.
2: Real rods would have irradiated the workers holding it in this farce, and they would have most-likely have died within 3 days.
3: They didn't burn. Yet, withing about 10 min. of removing a real used, or non-used rod from the water like that, they would heat up and start the zircaloy cladding burning… FYI, water doesn't put such fires out, once begun.
4: The (So-CALLED) rod they removed from the pool and inspected in the common pool building? Hum, doesn't even come close to a match of the rod they extracted from the pool, nor if one isn't blind… had that rod they take apart in the common pool building ever seen, nor been touched by such water at any time! This is rather obvious, do remember… they pumped salt water into all of them pools! That rods is clearly brand-spanking new, and the core-rods held within it are quite empty!
5: Need I even point out, that urainium isn't a light metal? Do please notice how that rod-core segment is being handeled!?
6: Does anyone remember what happens when you vid a rad source? Where's all our sparkles?
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+311 patb
Gotta love the little Japanese nucleocrat scoundrels for their efforts to bullshit the world.
And what will do them in won't be the justice system. The verdict of history and Dr. Strangelove chemicals will be their own undoing.
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Mih queries: "Now, back to the content. How about that 62 kinds of radioactive elements. Has anyone seen that number cited before for Fukushima Daiichi? Does anyone have any idea where a full list of all 62 elemnts would be?
Then there is that business about 400 tons of ground water flowing into reactor buildings each day. Each day! That's a heck of a lot of water and I don't recall seeing that number being posted before. Of course, I am probably wrong, but wow — that's some serious contamination of water. And where's it going?
And they write the volume is continuing to rise. By how much?"
SP: More than 62: "There are approximately one hundred major radioactive nuclides which can be found in a reactor system"
http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q5367.html
The 400 ton figure has been mentioned in Japanese reports and commented on by numerous Enenewsers:
http://enenews.com/nhk-leaking-of-tainted-water-plaguing-fukushima-clean-up-video/comment-page-1
Another:
"TEPCO has set the amount of water injected into the No. 1 reactor at 5 tons per hour and at 7 tons per hour for each of the No. 2 and No. 3 reactors."
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T120831004812.htm
SP: That figures out to 456 tons a day. Sounds logical since the three units are leaking over 400 tons a day.
http://enenews.com/nytimes-eerie-fog-of-silence-around-fukushima-plant-first-surprising-thing-is-theres-no-sound-in-no-go-zone-photographer-photos/comment-page-1
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So doing a little estimation math based on my figures (and their figures) from 4 months ago.. Maybe the 56 ton differential is the boiloff factor of radioactive steam daily going up into the wind. Nasty bioaccumulation.
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Tsunami bomb, a rival for nuclear weapons, was tested by U.S., New Zealand: archived secret files
By Scott Sutherland | Geekquinox – 6 hours ago
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/geekquinox/tsunami-bomb-rival-nuclear-weapons-tested-u-zealand-220152146.html
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Blast from the past…Arnie Gundersen April 6, 2011:
"…Areva, which is a French nuclear conglomerate, probably one of the largest in the industry. As reported in the New York Times on March 23rd: there was an invitation-only meeting at Stanford University on the 21st of March, this is ten days after the accident, where Areva presented some pretty significant problems that the public was not being made aware of. We’ve been able to get a hold of the Areva report that was presented there. Now, the Areva report is pretty damning, but in fact there’s information in it that’s wrong. I will, next time, be discussing [the] problems with the Areva report that actually make the situation worse. The Areva report talks about the fact that it’s known that the nuclear fuel in all three reactors reached five thousand degrees [5,000 degrees Celsius].
That’s beyond the melting point of stainless steel, and beyond the melting point of zircalloy which means that a disintegration of the core is pretty obvious. The Areva report talks about Unit 2 in particular and identifies that the core, [correction] that the containment was breached by a hydrogen explosion. We look at Units 1, 3 and 4 and see the roofs blown off, and [Unit] 2 looks pretty good. What happened at Unit 2, though, was that the hydrogen built up inside then somehow ignited. "
http://www.fairewinds.org/content/closing-ranks-nrc-nuclear-industry-and-tepco-are-limiting-flow-information
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Continued Gundersen blast from the past:
"The other thing that the Areva report talks about is that they recommend control of crops and dairy products out to fifty kilometers (50 km). That’s about thirty miles (30 mi.) away from the plant. That means that they believe that radiation has exceeded well beyond what the emergency evacuation zone is, and that both crops and dairy products may be contaminated.
Areva also spends a lot of time talking about Unit 4. That’s the one that has no fuel in the reactor, but exploded anyway. They basically said that this was a core melt in fresh air. The reason the core melted on Unit 4, Areva believes, is that the fuel pool cracked from the earthquake. So the water didn’t boil out of Unit 4 like we’ve been led to believe. There was a crack in the fuel pool from the earthquake and now, with no water, a zircalloy-hydrogen reaction was inevitable."
SP: I like that term "core melt in fresh air" for the Unit 4 spent fuel pond.
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Good afternoon (JST), <b>Sickputer</b>.
I'm doing some work related to your 2nd post up, but just hit a snag.
I can't find the source for this:
<i>"Sounds logical since the three units are leaking over 400 tons a day."</i>
I found the full text of the NYTimes article that was the basis for that page on ENE that link takes us to, but I see nothing there about that figure of 400 tons. Could you help me with that, please.
Thank you.
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Most Japanese digital articles have been purged except for cached Google descriptions showing the 400 tons of water figure. But other sites have reference to Tepco's announcement and it is probably in their archived daily releases (on iPhone and research is difficult for pdfs).
http://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2013/01/fukushima-contaminated-water.html?m=1
"Each day about 400 tons of underground water has been flowing into reactor buildings since a nuclear accident triggered by the disaster on March 11th, 2011. The water becomes contaminated with radioactive materials."
Also: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=514123765285645&id=260610960640885
Another dead 400 tons Japanese link, but the comments are still there!
"The water in the basement of reactors 1-3 is 10 plus sieverts/hr. There are cracks in the containment vessels and the suppression chambers and the cooling water is leaking at 400 tons per day. The cracks can't be repaired, even by robots, until all the water is removed and the dangerous radiation levels drop which will probably take several decades so there's no immediate solution to the problem"
http://www.japantoday.com/smartphone/view/national/tepco-struggling-to-find-somewhere-to-store-contaminated-water
HTH,
SP
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Okay, thank you for putting up with me.
I appreciate the reference to the comments, but what I need are the actual press releases. I seemed to have missed that NHK World press release on that date — …/20120910_03.html — but I found it on the French site and have filled in our files.
Now the last lines are these:
<i>"Contaminated water levels have continued to rise at a pace of about 400 tons a day due to groundwater inflow. That has filled almost 90 percent of the plant's storage tanks.
Tokyo Electric plans to add tanks with a total capacity of 470,000 tons to store the water for 3 years. But the work will require the cutting of trees at the plant."</i>
Now the way I read that is the groundwater is just one source that *overall* leads to 400 tons of contaminated water a day, not as JUST 400 tons of groundwater leaking in. Earlier in that press release they are refering to the coolant water they are intentionally injecting into the reactors. So I am reading that as intentional injection of water (obviously becomes contaminated) plus the groundwater getting in = 400 tons.
But I sure appreciate the help. For one thing I found something missing from our own records. You see, we stopped archiving everything from NHK World in early 2012. That was a lot of work everyday and just couldn't be maintained. We still try to grab what seems important, but we obviously miss things from time-to-time, like on September 9th.
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This is day number 669 for disasters born on March 11, 2011
Your 1,000th day will be December 4 this year!
Your 5,000th day will be November 16, 2024!
Your 10,000th day will be July 26, 2038!
Your 15,000th day will be April 3, 2052!
Your 20,000th day will be December 11, 2065!
Your 25,000th day will be August 20, 2079!
Your 30,000th day will be April 28, 2093!
Your 35,000th day will be January 6, 2107!
…and after that we're getting pretty damned optimistic.
Thanks to: The Amazing Days Alive Calculator by John and Abby Schoneboom
http://www.bonkworld.org/index.php?action=show&id=45
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well, i know i wont be seeing 25,000 days.
good luck to those that do. and beyond.
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Oh dear, am I slow, or what? I see you got two posts in while I was poking along with my post. But that quote I sued identifies the post I was referring to.
And I do know how to use question marks. I see I missed on in my post up there.
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No problem.. I read your intent quite well.
Have a great day.. It's snooze time for me now at about 1 AM Texas time.
Ciao!
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oh, and kalidances, thank you too
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hey sick…? it's in fact about 200 other elements that fission generates… many worse than the origin materials.
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Thanks patb…I knew it was more, but couldn't find on my phone the website I remembered reading. HPS.org seemed like a fair candidate for reliable facts, but oh well!
Ciao!
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These people are nuts:
Big radiation risk unlikely if Israel strikes Iran: experts
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/28/us-iran-nuclear-environment-idINBRE87R0EX20120828
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great flag anne! Demonstrates the double-standard applied to any-and-all of isrealies actions. The AEIA says nothing about the 400+ nuclear weapons possessed by a nation that adamantly refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation accords, yet Iran is a member and fully compliant with these regulations. As we say on the streets, "…go figga!"
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this bears watching…
Nuclear Security Helicopters Testing Radiation Levels Above DC Area
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/05/nuclear-security-helicopters-testing-radiation-levels-above-dc-area/
National Nuclear Security Administration PRESS RELEASE
http://nnsa.energy.gov/mediaroom/pressreleases/dcflyover122612
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Anyone heard of nuclear waste being dumped into mines in the UK in Leicestershire?
Thanks!
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IAL asks: "Anyone heard of nuclear waste being dumped into mines in the UK in Leicestershire?"
SP: I doubt any large city in UK will take one up the keister for the nucleocrats.
The nuke pukes like to pick on small towns and bribe them. But that rarely works unless the whole village works at a nuclear plant.
Good UK article about the history of proposed nuclear waste disposal sites:
http://www.no2nuclearpower.org.uk/radwaste/history-of-nuclear-waste-disposal-proposals-in-britain/
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That was quite interesting, thanks for that link!
This is the the site where I read someone's comment about nuclear waste dumped in old mines in Leicestershire:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/oct/26/kings-cliffe-radioactive-waste
If you go to the comments below you find what they said..
Part of it said:
It was revealed to us by a family member that whilst working for an oil company both mines were drilled and filled with nucleur waste using the cheapest containers back in the early 1990's.
We have had support from a C.N.D campaigner , and visited both sites with thermometers and geiger counters and other scientific equipment and the results were frightening,especially at Asfordby Mine, the needle nearly went off the geiger counter.
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very interesting…..
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Ah yes, nuclear waste dumping by Areva and English partners is all supposed to be on the up and up. Certainly those stalwart business citizens wouldn't drop their stools where it isn't allowed? You think?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion/user-comments/lisajoe
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It doesn't surprise me if any French companies dumped waste on our doorstep.The sea dumping everyone did was irresponsible to say the least.
After all they said Chernobyl fallout stopped at their borders and went straight to us. Lol..
You would think so haha..
I'd like it not to be too and not dump it on your own doorstep..
But then again why would someone make it up? Either way I'm not far away from the mines so I could have a look..
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@ Arclight
Hi Arclight!
I read on the previous page about your blogging on nuclear news and that, and I just wanted to say keep up the work!
I did wonder why you hadn't posted on here much, and I've personally been busy with other related things but glad your still around!
You know if your not using your Inspector much you can always let me 'borrow' it? You know as a fellow countryman and all lol!
I've got a low level waste landfill 20 miles away where I could easily test it haha!
Hope you had a good christmas!
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hi its all lies
still sniffing around the hallowed halls of enenews though…
drop me a line..
arclight1132011-lemmingbites@yahoo.co.uk
peace and a good new year to you..
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Arc sez: "hi its all lies….still sniffing around the hallowed halls of enenews though…
SP: Yes, the Mark Twain rumor that like Lawrence of Arabia our beloved arclight had fallen off his motorbike is completely an exaggeration. >;->. Still ripping around like Sherlock Holmes!
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Glad your still on enenews sniffing around! I always like your videos
I will drop you a line sometime and happy new year to you too!
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Arnie Gundersen's recent podcast mentions New Brunswick Lab in New Jersey. The lab was moved to Argonne Nat'l Lab in Illinois (15 min from my house) where they continued work on Plutonium. I know they have done a lot of clean up and removal of areas contaminated by radiation at Argonne but based upon the government's track record of sites where atomic energy is researched I can't believe they have the place 100% cleaned up.
Here is a link about the lab:
http://www.acquisitioninstitute.com/uploads/PWS_LAB_SERVICES.pdf
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EPA looking into elevated radiation levels in Northwest Indiana.
"Jensen, a former EPA employee, conducted his own study of radiation levels and concluded that levels in the town are elevated."
"An EPA official in November said the methodology used by Jensen's study doesn't conform to current EPA standards."
"Jensen has said he isn't aware of any radiation-related health problems suffered by the town's 780 residents but worries about problems down the road." – from SFC article
(This paragraph is missing from the original article?)
San Fransisco Chronicle (SFC)
http://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/EPA-agrees-to-look-into-town-s-radiation-concerns-4170911.php
Northwest Indiana (NWI)
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/duneland/the-pines/epa-study-of-residential-yards-in-the-pines-planned/article_33096fc2-4980-5242-bb2c-3a2b641ebff4.html
I wish Jensen would have posted his figures.
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[twice normal “background” levels]
"In his own study, Jensen said he found readings that were more than twice normal “background” levels; however the EPA says that Jensen’s methods do not conform to current EPA standards.
Jensen contests that is not the whole story.
“We were criticized for not doing it by EPA protocol when the people who collected that data on behalf of NIPSCO and Brown also did not follow EPA protocol,” Jensen said. “What we did was not try to be elaborate but see if something is here. If the EPA wants to use their protocol, that’s fine by us. … And what we did certainly shows there is a call for them to do their own study, either to contest what we found or determine if there is a risk.”
http://thenewsdispatch.com/articles/2012/12/16/news/local/doc50cd1e0840c45383642646.txt
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Nuclear Security Helicopters Testing Radiation Levels Above DC Area
January 5, 2013 11:27 PM
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/05/nuclear-security-helicopters-testing-radiation-levels-above-dc-area/
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gotta get up earlier, Ant'…
http://enenews.com/forum-general-discussion-thread-nuclear-issues-july-2012/comment-page-39#comment-321200
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ENENews Friends, I need your advice.
My 18 year old niece has a thyroid nodule, hormone levels are okay but they are going to do a needle biopsy.
So my pragmatic approach is:
1) If non-cancerous now. Do they do a follow up biopsy in a year, two years forever? How long before it is considered not at risk of becoming a cancer if ever?
2) If cancerous is the only treatment removal of whole thyroid then replacement hormones? Has anyone just had the nodule removed and left the remainder of the thyroid intact?
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
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Smoking gun! ochizuki at Fukushima Diary blows the lid off the hasty US armed forced evacuation in March 2011:
http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/01/3212011-the-day-when-g-washington-evacuated-yokosuka-possible-explosion-happened-in-reactor3-to-melt-the-concrete-of-pcv/
Excerpts: "The day [USS] G.Washington evacuated Yokosuka [March 21], possible explosion happened in reactor3 to melt the concrete of PCV."
"Potassium iodide pills were distributed to sailors and families remaining at the naval base and at the Atsugi Naval Air Facility. (*1)
Capt. Kenneth Reynard commented, “As conditions at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant deteriorated, it was crucial that we brought the skilled workers along with us to sea.”
SP: The GW was the first nuclear ship permanently deployed in Japan back in 2005. As for the evacuation in the early days after Unit 3 exploded…it became a mad flight to escape for 3,000 US navy dependents:
http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/japan/military-wraps-up-first-round-of-departures-from-japan-1.138869
"Yokosuka Naval Base was quiet by Friday, with thousands of its sailors deployed on a fleet of ships off the tsunami-ravaged northern coastline and 3,008 dependents signed up for departure flights having already left."
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Continued from Stars and Stripes article…
"Hundreds of other family members had left Yokosuka after purchasing tickets for commercial flights prior to the military announcing its program on March 17.
About 2,000 from Naval Air Facility Atsugi, 1,350 from Misawa Air Base, 600 from Yokota Air Base and 300 from Camp Zama have left or will be gone by Saturday, with people from each of those bases departing from commercial airports through flights arranged by the U.S. military.
While some services at bases throughout Japan have been limited or canceled by the unfolding natural disaster and subsequent mass exodus from the military community, all schools in mainland Japan were all still open as of Friday."
SP: So how many high ranking naval officer wives and children took those expensive one-way commercial flights (about $5000 a seat)? Notice they left BEFORE Unit 3 blew and the plume passed across the base.
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Fukushima “Decontamination” Measures Are Making Things Worse
Corruption and Cover-Up Lead to SPREAD – Rather than Containment – of Radiation from Fukushima Disaster
• “Japan has severely underplayed the amount of radiation from Fukushima, putting Japanese residents and U.S. navy sailors in jeopardy
• “Experts call Japan cleanup effort meaningless … an endless task that’s simply spreading around radiation
• “Tepco has taken extraordinary steps to hide radiation by blocking radiation monitors with thick metal and other foreign objects. And see this
“In a series of essays called “Crooked Cleanup”, leading Japanese news source Asahi shows the level of corruption and incompetence….”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-decontamination-measures-are-making-things-worse/5318105
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