FORUM: General Discussion Thread (Nuclear Issues) for June 2012

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971 comments to FORUM: General Discussion Thread (Nuclear Issues) for June 2012

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Want to hear some more garbage? The Hawaii DOH discusses Fukushima radiation reaching Hawaii.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0xUe-Y-AG4


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    • Thanks for that HotR, very amusing.

      And, that's the DOH for Hawaii? I like the way she was trying to deflect the question away from the massive ocean plume to that of the massive debris field.

      For the uninitiated, there is:

      1. a debris field called The Great Pacific Gyre
      2. a debris field from Japan which will partly combine with 1. and
      3. a radioactive ocean plume

      That is, while asking a question about apples she insisted on giving answers about oranges.


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      Hey Heart, did they also mention the free health care from the Pentagon they've set up this year in Kauai?

      http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/article_b178dfe2-091d-11e1-bcbd-001cc4c03286.html

      "Pentagon deploying team to provide free health services: Tropic Care Kaua‘i coming next year"

      "Dennis Fujimoto – The Garden Island | Posted: Sunday, November 6, 2011

      "LIHU‘E — Free medical care is coming to Kaua‘i from late February through early March, said Col. Jerry Arends, director of the Innovative Readiness Training Medical Deployments.

      “This service is for all the people,” Arends said. “There is no eligibility requirement. People who need medical service can just drop in.”

      "Dr. Dileep Bal of the state Department of Health’s Kaua‘i office said the IRT program is coming to the Garden Isle through a joint venture of the DOH office, Gov. Neil Abercrombie and his New Day Initiative, and the military.

      "Labelled Tropic Care Kaua‘i 2012, up to 350 clinical and non-clinical personnel will converge on Kaua‘i in a deployment exercise. Residents in need of free medical attention will be the beneficiary of this exercise."…

      "Come one, come all,” Bal said. “This service is for everyone, compliments of the Pentagon."


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      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        @WhatAbouttheKids..
        Those folks in the five sided building are just so compassionate.
        Major Sarc


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        • What-About-The-Kids

          I saw that article posted last November and couldn't help wondering if their reasoning for setting up this "deployment exercise" specifically in Kauai was due to the fact they received some of the highest fallout levels recorded (after Saipan) during the initial plume after Fuku blew.

          So perhaps they could take care of several objectives at once, including helping people there who were indeed affected by exposure to the initial fallout, while not revealing the fact they were exposed…and perhaps, as gvt.s seem to love to do, they could also use the data they get for yet more research data into how an unprecedented radiation disaster like Fuku affects populations in the direct "line of fire," (pardon the expression.)

          I wonder if they will extend the exercise beyond the initial 2 month plan, if they find there is a need? I'm sure they could use the free health care (couldn't we all?) Hawaiians have such a high cost of living. Most natives I met there had to hold two jobs just to survive in their own land…So sad to see. And that was PRIOR to the economy tanking. I can only imagine how hard life is for them now. Perhaps the good news in this is that it could bring some much-needed jobs to the islands? (Trying to find some good out of this disaster.)


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          • Time Is Short Time Is Short

            Rad effects sampling. They'll go back on a regular basis to see how it's spreading through the GP.

            There will be no Federal acceptance of responsibility. It's up to the State. Which is broke.


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  • papacares papacares

    dock at agate beach oregon is now scraped burned and buried
    did anyone get to monitor for radiation? what does negative radiation mean?

    http://www.newportnewstimes.com/v2_news_articles.php?heading=0&page=72&story_id=34204

    also report with video
    http://www.newslincolncounty.com/?p=53265


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    • richard richard

      @papacares – just saw your question 'what does neg rad' mean?

      Not sure if you were just being sarcastic, but for the uninitiated there is actually no such thing.

      Any rad reading has to be a value above zero, with the general, 21st century, level of 0.10 micro (u) sieverts/per hour, or so.

      I've mentioned it before on enenews, we really need to press for a value, something measurable. Any subjective offering is pointless.

      We are all savvy enough to know what to ask for now. No more patronizing 'below levels of concern' or 'negative radiation found' (which there is no such thing as).

      If you have the chance, when offered a subjective level, always press for the real number, the facts, not the opinion.

      Just my two cents.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I am posting this lecture..
    There is a lot of information in here…
    My command of the Japanese language…poor.
    Anyone see anything interesting..please post.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU8kegbSG30&feature=related


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      • Any updates on that?

        Very strange….


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        • trinityfly trinityfly

          The entire high reading episode is false. The high readings that were reported on both Radiation Network and Black Cat was because the Geiger site operator had his Geiger patched in to both of the Geiger networks. Hence the same readings. Fact! The operator had a glitch that was creating false high readings and he is still trying to resolve the origin. The EPA comment is not real! Bad fear mongering reporting. Fact! Way to much false fear mongering reporting. Slow down people and everyone breath in slowly…. "just saying…"


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          • Time Is Short Time Is Short

            Damn it! I knew false radiation readings would cause massive explosions at a nuke plant, one with the worst safety record in the US, and dozens of military vehicles would respond.

            Now, "… everyone breathe in slowly". SFB.


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          • WorseThanChernobyl

            Can you post your source for the info that both networks used the same Geiger and had a glitch?


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            • trinityfly trinityfly

              I was online during that episode and watching the readings spike off of the map. When this happens a lot of people from the network join the chat feature of the network. People then try to contact the site that is displaying high readings. They could not directly contact the person that evening/early morning. The sites online presence was then deactivated. They were asleep. They were eventually contacted the following day and it was then revealed that they are connected both to Radiation network and Black cat. Hence the identical readings.


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    • Jebus Jebus

      I am still searching through this, and my take so far is that it is urban training by our military and the reason is this:

      Nuclear Talks With Tehran Falter

      VIENNA—Negotiations between Iran and the United Nations' nuclear watchdog appeared to break down over the issue of inspections Friday, imperiling hopes for a broader diplomatic effort to end the international standoff peacefully.

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303665904577454711361541798.html

      Israel and US are sending in the kids to kick some nuclear ass soon. Pannetta said they are ready and certainly Israel is too.

      May god help protect the dogs of war, and force those who dictate war to carry the burden…


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      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        Hard to start a war when you've got an exploding nuke plant in the middle of the country. Upwind from the world's breadbasket.

        How much for a loaf of radioactive bread in Egypt? Will China and Russia still want our exports? This is really bad, on so many levels.


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  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    U.S. Court rules Nuclear Regulatory Commission failed to fully evaluate the risks associated with storage of spent nuclear fuel and must draft new plan

    The commission’s conclusion that permanent storage will be available when needed in the future didn’t calculate how the lack of such a facility could affect the environment, the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington said.

    The commission also failed to fully assess the dangers of storing spent fuel on-site for 60 years after a nuclear plant’s license expires, the court said.

    “The commission’s evaluation of the risks of spent nuclear fuel is deficient,” the three-judge panel said in the latest decision. Spent fuel “poses a dangerous long-term health and environmental risk.”

    http://enformable.com/2012/06/u-s-court-rules-nuclear-regulatory-commission-failed-to-fully-evaluate-the-risks-associated-with-storage-of-spent-nuclear-fuel-and-must-draft-new-plan/


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      Thanks so much, Maidenheaven! That is good to hear. Even our courts are waking up to the shenanigans and malfeasance of the nuclear industry and its bedfellows, the Nuclear Rubberstamp Commission. Oops! Did I say "Rubberstamp?" Everyone knows it is "Regulatory", right? ;-)

      /sarc

      Love all the great information and intelligent commentary enformable.com offers on a consistent basis. Lucas Hixon rocks! :-)


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    • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

      I thought this to be very interesting. These workers have no protection that I can see, shoving the waste into the salt and capping it with a 5' concrete cap.

      Location shoot 1/2 mile underground at the D.O.E. WIPP facility in Carlsbad, NM.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heFfyI1Tuek&feature=related


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    • chrisk9

      The whole issue of spent fuel storage has so many unanswered questions. When i first entered the business they talked about having a national site for spent fuel storage within a few years. As that was delayed they realized they needed to store more bundles on site so they modified the spent fuel pools by installing higher density fuel racks. Eventually they could see that they needed to store more, so they moved older fuel into dry casks.

      There were some studies by the NRC and nuclear industry groups that said these changes were safe, but little if any outside examination of the changes made to spent fuel storage besides some questioning by some anti nuclear groups.

      So now we have fuel pools like Fuku #4 that have 1500 bundles in them. That is almost the equivalent of 5 loaded reactors. They have absolutely no containment around them. (the building itself is no containment at all-I have seen a number leak during rain storms.)They have no redundant safety systems, and not many options if the primary pumps supplying water fails. (to get a secondary water source operators must go into the building- not just push a button). During maintenance/refueling outages there are times when there is only a small fuel pool metal gate holding in all the water.

      This accident has undeniably shown how dangerous and poorly designed all GE BWR reactors spent fuel pools really are. If there were any real regulators something would be happening at all these type plants.


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  • norbu norbu

    Radon levels are elevated in mid-west. http://www.radon.com/maps/


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  • trinityfly trinityfly

    So how does one tell if what we are seeing on the live cam is normal fog or steam from the reactors? At the moment the entire place is in thick fog??


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    It is raining causing more emissions from the reactors.
    Radioactive materials and water don't mix well(understatement).
    This will happen everytime it rains..forever.

    http://www.bing.com/weather/search?q=weather%20fukushima%20japan&unit=F&qpvt=weather+fukushima+japan&FORM=DTPWEA


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  • What-About-The-Kids

    Enenews is fast approaching 5,000 "likes" on Facebook! Very cool.

    Keep up the great work, Admin and all who post here. The word is getting out! No use trying to sweep Fuku under the rug anymore (in case those who try may be reading this…) Ain't happenin'… ;-)


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  • There were no injuries at Three Mile Island, "not even a sprained ankle."

    More gems from NPR radio:

    Hold That "Hot" Fukushima Sushi!
    by Harvey Wasserman l NukeFree.org
    http://www.pacificfreepress.com/news/1/11824-fukushima-qhotq-tuna-and-holding-back-new-nuke-plant-plans.html

    "You can also prepare for life without sushi. National Public Radio has assured us all that the radioactive tuna are perfectly safe to eat. This is the same network whose Scott Simon glibly told us that there were no injuries at Three Mile Island, "not even a sprained ankle."

    But as long-time radiation expert Robert Alavarez warns, "it's not harmless." Fukushima released far more cesium-137 than the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Many decades ago lesser fallout from nuclear testing forced the confiscation of more than 4 million pounds of fish.


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  • [testing]
    [had problems posting here]

    Massive Explosions and Military Movement in Michigan

    Nuclear Cover-Up: Explosions, Military Helicopters Filmed Near Blacked Out Radiation Zone

    Anthony Gucciardi
    NaturalSociety
    June 8, 2012

    Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/explosions-military-helicopters-filmed-radiation-zone/#ixzz1xJD6XYwX
    http://naturalsociety.com/explosions-military-helicopters-filmed-radiation-zone/


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  • norbu norbu

    what are they up to?


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  • norbu norbu

    I saw that they were making Gold in a nuclear reactor. could it be that they are fighting off aliens that are trying to get to the gold? I know it's crazy but, what the hell is going on?


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Court: Closed Nuclear Plants Can't Store Spent Fuel for 60 Years

    A federal appeals court ruled Friday that spent nuclear fuel cannot be stored at closed plant sites for 60 years, a decision that spurns the U.S. Department of Energy and sides with environmental activists and several states.

    Connecticut was among a handful of states that joined the activists in challenging the 60-year policy. The ruling would push the storage time back to 30 years, the previous maximum.

    http://www.ctnow.com/business/hc-nuclear-waste-20120608,0,3004189.story


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  • Love these comments:

    Anonymous says:
    June 8, 2012 at 8:32 pm
    I’m sure if there was a leak like this – all their alarms systems would go off and the hazmat units near the police stations would have been there. Local news would have been all over it. Something else is going on.

    REPLY
    I am says:
    June 9, 2012 at 3:54 am
    kind of like 9/11 right?

    Also, 'local news' was arrested by police recently reporting in that area:

    Reporter Detained/Arrested Investigating Mysterious Explosion That Rocked N.E. Mi On 6-6-12 (1 of 2)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AAphZIusdTo

    Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/explosions-military-helicopters-filmed-radiation-zone/#ixzz1xJpb91LR


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  • Jebus Jebus

    The Japanese public is being railroaded, ramroded, hogtied and forced to accept the restarts…

    Japan PM says 2 nuke reactors must be restarted

    The most oxymoronic quote of the year…

    "I cannot put people's safety and livelihood at stake by not restarting the reactors." – Noda

    http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/08/4547516/japan-pm-says-2-nuke-reactors.html


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  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    Tepco officially admitted they don’t need nuclear power

    By using pumped-storage power generation and steam-power generation,next summer they can supply more than 57 million kilowatts, which is the maximum supply capacity of this summer. This year, we did not run out of power. 57 million kilowatts is even OVER supply.

    The annual peak of the electric consumption is late August in Japan. By proving that they can cover the potential demand of next summer, it has become clear that they don’t need nuclear power through a year.

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/11/tepco-officially-admitted-they-dont-need-nuclear-power/


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Sellafield swallows contaminated by radioactivity

    Birds nesting by the nuclear power plant have traces of radioactivity in their droppings

    Up to 30 swallows had been surveyed. "There was insufficient radioactivity in the guano to require personal protection beyond that required for hygiene purposes," he said. Though it was difficult to be sure, contaminated mosquitoes were "a possible pathway".

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jun/08/radioactive-swallows-sellafield

    Wait! skeeters bite humans… Their saliva has anticoagulants in it that they pump into you to allow them to draw your blood.
    I wonder if they glow. The new lightning bug…


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  • Jebus Jebus

    'I thought they were shareholders.' My first look at a hearing with the CNSC, our nuclear watchdog
    By Ramsey Hart June 8, 2012

    When evidence was presented about the life-cycle carbon footprint of nuclear energy, commissioner André Harvey seemed genuinely shocked that the industry he is supposed to be watching over could have such a big impact on green house gas emissions. Had he not been presented with these facts in the past?

    From the CNSC staff there was also a lack of admission to any problems with “modern” uranium mining in Canada. During my intervention, I suggested the categorical nature of these claims was troubling and pointed to examples of several environmental issues, noting that some were legacy issues, some were recent issues, and I acknowleged that improvements have been made over the years. The response from Executive Vice President of the CNSC Dr. Ramzi Jamal to my request for a more transparent discussion was an accusation of fear mongering!

    http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/miningwatch/2012/06/%E2%80%9Ci-thought-they-were-shareholders%E2%80%9D-my-first-look-hearing-cnsc-our


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Researchers at GW Receive Federal Funds to Study the Effect Earthquakes Have on Nuclear Reactors

    Engineering faculty members were awarded more than $860,000 to work with laboratories nationally, globally to simulate the earthquake activity

    http://www.newswise.com/articles/researchers-at-gw-receive-federal-funds-to-study-the-effect-earthquakes-have-on-nuclear-reactors

    Only $860,000 to study earthquake damage!

    Have they heard of Fukushima?

    MIT got more than 2 million to find out ways to make us accept the lies!


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    • I just completed my own study.

      Conclusion: earthquakes are bad for nuclear reactors.

      I could use that $860,000 round about now.


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    • Jebus Jebus

      This just in…
      GW study indicates that earthquakes are good for nuclear reactor cores and people, because they allow life changing radionuclides to flow out and dilute into the environment. This allows beneficial hormesis to occur and reduces nuclear waste stoorage.
      Film at eleven…


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      • You sound just like CNN.

        I got through to live police, fire and EMS in Michigan but I think the 'fireworks' must be over on a secure channel.

        Berrien County Michigan
        [Cook Nuclear Plant]
        http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=cwp&ctid=1237

        There's also Amateur Radio for Berrien County, Michigan, but not sure how to work it:

        http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?ctid=1237&tab=ham


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        • Also, "Dutchsince also covered this having seen incredibly high radiation on his charts at this area"

          http://universallyaware.ning.com/video/explosions-radiation-indiana-michigan-border-real-or-hoax

          I heard Al Jazeera is on it, but have seen nothing yet from them.


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          • durando durando

            Well "Rad-Chick" says that the levels of rads seem to be the same as western Michigan where she had come from, fyi her page has a link at the top in the banner Radiation News where she will put any findings about this situation http://fukushimafacts.com/Default.aspx?PID=43&T=Radiation%20News

            Maybe they were right maybe it was some kind of weird solar flare causing readings but that concerns me also because i've never heard of a solar flare causing high readings like that for a sustained period of time.

            I have also heard that the military movements may just be national guard exercises.

            Personally I'm not very sure what to say at this point about it but I know that history has proven that the government would do anything they could to keep nuclear incidents under wraps and this would be a lot of weird coincidences all at once.


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            • CB CB

              She has a live USTREAM at 8pm est. Ill post it once the tweet comes through.


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              • durando durando

                doesn't appear that she made her live stream someone on there is reporting that she called with strange findings that she will post tomorrow……….


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            • [comments below are NOT mine - they're from 9t9sat the link below, who says, on June 8, 2012 at 11:39 pm]:

              http://theintelhub.com/2012/06/08/nuclear-cover-up-explosions-military-helicopters-filmed-near-blacked-out-radiation-zone/comment-page-1/#comment-85987

              Reading this at a few different sites, the picture which seems to emerge is:

              1. there was a nuclear accident as proven by radiation spikes in the area recorded on at least 3 independent systems.

              2. the accident was promptly responded to and controlled.

              3. in the wake of the accident, in an effort to cover it up, military officials have decided to spontaneously stage a series of drills in the area, increasing the number of air and land craft which are being seen, and firing off some kind of explosives (possibly at a range)

              4. in the confusion and official statements, everybody should quickly forget, or never find out, that there was a nuclear accident in the first instance.

              5. some portion of the population comes down with radiation sickness because they did not know they should take iodide and other precautionary measures against radiation.

              6. go about your business, nothing to see here.


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              • lam335 lam335

                re: " radiation spikes in the area recorded on at least 3 independent systems"

                I am only aware of two systems that recorded the spikes, the Radiation Network and the Black Cat one. What is the third system that recorded the spikes?


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                • lam335 lam335

                  If the 3rd source is the EPA's Radnet, the claim is erroneous because the screenshot linked to Guicciardi's story is showing spikes many hours earlier than the spike displayed on the Radiation Network and Black Cat system. The EPA's radnet numbers are presented in Universal Time, which is basically Greenwich mean time, so you have to subtract 6 hours to get Eastern Standard Time, which would be the time zone for Indiana.

                  The high numbers listed from 07:58 to 11:59 on June 6 (as in the screen shot of the EPA's page) are therefore from the early morning hours of June 6, long before the Radiation Network spike (and, for that matter, before the Davis Besse incident too): If my calculations are correct, 07:58 (Universal time) minus 6 hrs = 1:58 am Eastern time and 11:59 (Universal time) minus 6 hrs = 5:59 am Eastern time.

                  The Radiation Network spike began around 11:30 pm Eastern time, which would be 23:30 in Universal time, on June 6, many hours later than the spikes displayed in Guicciardi's screenshot (Incidentally,those numbers in the screen shot were not "removed from public viewing"; they are still there: look up Ft. Wayne, IN, https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/query.do


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                  • lam335 lam335

                    Sorry, forgot to add 6 hours in my last time conversion from ET to Universal: 11:30 pm in 24 hr-time is 23:30, but then you add 6 hrs, to get Universal, so it would be 05:30 on June 7. Starting at that time, the EPA numbers are somewhat elevated, but still far from triple digits.

                    The screenshot itself is misleading (perhaps deliberately so?) because it omits the cpm for the very next hour, which is evidently much lower, 18 cpm (this is not to deny the possibility that the EPA might sometimes "tweak" its numbers), but at any rate the screen shot is irrelevant because it is showing a spike that happened a good 17 to 21 hours earlier that the spike that trigger the Radiation Network alert.

                    In addition, the claim that even two "independent" sources documented the spike is questionable because the Radiation network admits the possibility that both the Black Cat and Radiation Network readings might have been coming from the same source (which is kind of annoying–they should know and be able to tell us definitively whether they are from the same source, rather than merely noting it's a possibility).


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                    • lam335 lam335

                      Sadly, triple digit spikes for periods of several hours are not rare on the EPA's radnet page (at least since Fuku–I only started looking at the radnet page last summer). But the FOUR digit spike reported for South Bend IS unusual.

                      I want to know the truth about this possible spike more than most people because I live in the town where it seems to have occurred, and while my GC didn't detect anything unusual after I learned about the alert and turned it on, I have no idea if some radiation cloud could have passed by my place prior to my turning it on. BUT this Guicciardi guy is deliberately using the EPA screenshot in a misleading way and he is claiming the sources displaying the spike are all independent (and thus corroborate each other) when that is far from certain since the data may ultimately be coming from the same source. I am looking for solid information, and Guicciardi is offering sensational claims based on misrepresenting what little information is actually available.

                      I have no time for anyone who seeks to distort the facts about what happened, whether to downplay a real nuclear event or to hype up an apparent one that did not actually occur (at this point, I'm not sure which category the South Bend alert belongs in). Both types of distortion get in the way of getting at the truth. I recommend sticking with responsible commentators like POTR blog. Guicciardi is not responsible.


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      • Just to brighten up your day jebus:

        "What he fails to mention is that the radiation and radioactive material that has escaped from Fukushima has not made anyone sick."

        http://atomicinsights.com/2011/06/arnie-gundersen-going-international.html#comment-19844

        [from our favorite atomic penis, i.e. AtomicRod, or whatever he calls himself]


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        • Jebus Jebus

          Ah, but you missed this part of his tirade…

          Quoted from his ignorant:

          "Gundersen goes on and on about how bad everything is and how the accident will go on indefinitely, will contaminate aquifers, and will result in harm to future generations.

          What he fails to mention is that the radiation and radioactive material that has escaped from Fukushima has not made anyone sick.

          It is difficult to imagine how a non-fatal accident can earn the title of “biggest industrial catastrophe in the history of mankind” over events like those listed on the Wikipedia page titled List of industrial disasters. That list contains dozens of events that each killed hundreds to thousands of people and often resulted in widespread, long lasting chemical contamination.

          Quite honestly, I have become tired of the effort required to respond and debunk each of his false claims."

          /End Quote

          We can only hope that deflecting the truth is making him tired…


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          • Jebus Jebus

            Oop's, I misunderstood your post, reread and understand now… :)

            He is such a douche (apologies to douche), I can't even believe his dog loves him…


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            • Jebus Jebus

              I posted this there, prolly wont show…

              Rod says,
              "Quite honestly, I have become tired of the effort required to respond and debunk each of his false claims."

              Psychopathic liars always get tired of their lies, so much effort is put into the lies…

              The truth never gets tired and those who tell it will never give up…ENENews.com

              Good night Rod


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        • vital1

          I suggest you all use this document as one of your resources to prove to those who say "No one has died from the Fukushima Nuclear disaster", they are totally wrong.

          This occurred in the first few days of the disaster. In this correspondence between the NRC and the Japanese, the Japanese admitted to 5 people having received lethal radiation doses.

          http://enformable.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Pascarelli-Robert.png

          ———————————————————-
          Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf (or create your own), hand it out, mailbox it, or email it.

          Put it everywhere, libraries, notice boards, web pages, forums, Facebook, and tweet! Think outside the box.

          http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf


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  • CB CB

    NOAA’s Fukushima Pacific Ocean Debris Circulation Forecast http://bit.ly/O6o25B


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  • anne anne

    Breaking: Major Nuclear Base Running ‘Containment Exercise’ Amid Censored Radiation Spikes
    http://naturalsociety.com/nuclear-base-running-containment-exercise-radiation-spikes/


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  • anne anne

    Nuclear Cover-Up: Explosions, Military Helicopters Filmed Near Blacked Out Radiation Zone
    http://naturalsociety.com/explosions-military-helicopters-filmed-radiation-zone/


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  • anne anne

    Power Reactor Event Number: 48000
    Facility: DAVIS BESSE
    Region: 3 State: OH
    Unit: [1] [ ] [ ]
    RX Type: [1] B&W-R-LP
    NRC Notified By: ERIC HORVATH
    HQ OPS Officer: DONG HWA PARK Notification Date: 06/07/2012
    Notification Time: 02:39 [ET]
    Event Date: 06/06/2012
    Event Time: 19:56 [EDT]
    Last Update Date: 06/07/2012
    Emergency Class: NON EMERGENCY
    10 CFR Section:
    50.72(b)(3)(ii)(A) – DEGRADED CONDITION Person (Organization):
    DAVE PASSEHL (R3DO)

    Unit SCRAM Code RX CRIT Initial PWR Initial RX Mode Current PWR Current RX Mode
    1 N N 0 Hot Standby 0 Hot Standby
    Event Text
    DEGRADED CONDITION DUE TO DISCOVERY OF PRESSURE BOUNDARY LEAKAGE

    "On June 6, 2012, at 1956 EDT, with the Unit shutdown for refueling, leakage was identified from a 3/4-inch weld during Reactor Coolant System (RCS) walkdown inspections. The leakage amount was approximately 0.1 gpm pinhole spray.

    "During the performance of MODE 3 engineering walkdown inspections in accordance with procedure DB-PF-03010 (ASME Section III, Class 1 and 2), with the RCS at Normal Operating Temperature and Pressure, a pressure boundary leak was identified on the Reactor Coolant Pump (RCP) 1-2 1st seal cavity vent line upstream weld of 3/4 inch small bore pipe socketweld at a 90 degree elbow between the RCP pump and valve RC-407 (1st Seal Cavity Vent Isolation). The plant was in MODE 3 at Normal Operating Pressure and Normal Operating Temperature (NOP/NOT) for the inspections.


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    • anne anne

      [cont.]

      "The plant entered Technical Specification (TS) Limiting Condition for Operation (LCO) 3.4.13, 'RCS Operational Leakage,' Condition B and procedure DB-OP-02522. 'Small RCS Leaks,' abnormal operating procedure. Plant cooldown to comply with LCO 3.4.13, Condition B, Required Action B.2 is in progress. The cause and resolution are under evaluation.

      "This event is reportable within 8 hours under 10CFR50.72(b)(3)(ii)(A).

      "The NRC Resident Inspector has been notified. This condition has been documented in the Davis-Besse Corrective Action program as Condition Report 2012-09381."

      The plant is required to be in MODE 5 within 36 hours.
      http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/en.html


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  • I get this 'feeling' sometimes.

    She says, "Something's wrong… something's in the air…"

    Old video clip 52 seconds.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg1Znycu5u0&list=PL89C3EBC75D1471F4&index=19&feature=plpp_video

    Not sure what show it's from. (?)
    The music sounds like twilight zone.


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  • labmonkeywithagun labmonkeywithagun

    For the techies.
    Water treatment from end of May.
    Nice diagram at bottom.
    I think water level shown in reactor containment might be semi-accurate
    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu12_e/images/120530e0201.pdf


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  • tonight SAT 6/9 10pm is the 'Fukushima special' with Gunderson, Blume, Apsley and Dale, on CoasttoCoastam radio. First national radio discussion I've seen during the 14 months, going to 550 stations nationwide, and there usually is a call-in hour for direct questions to the guests. If you can get your call in, and talk to Arnie or the others, you will have 20-some million mostly Fukushima-unaware listeners who may benefit in various ways from your questions and comments, and the following discussion
    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/06/09

    thanks for the heads up jump-ball.
    One More Saturday Night All … Cheers to Fuku & everyone
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KbW6UWFrCk&feature=related


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  • CB CB

    ALERT, any increase radar observations talk is my fault, Don't let it distract you. I believe its a tool being used used by the nuclear industry as a distraction. Any radar questions should come through me, period.


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  • lam335 lam335

    The Black Cat map has taken down the reading for Indiana. The Radiation Network took theirs down the other day, and it's still down. But the Black Cat one was there last night:

    http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html


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    • lam335 lam335

      By Indiana, I mean the South Bend one (looks like Radiation Network has another IN one closer to the Illinois border. But Black Cat now has none for Indiana.


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      • lam335 lam335

        EPA radnet numbers for Fort Wayne, IN, (and Indianapolis/Toledo) have been in the triple digits all morning. I think they are finally starting to come down.

        Does anyone know if air conditioners take in outside air? It's quite hot here, but I never want to turn the thing on if I notice the numbers are in the triple digits.


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    • lam335 lam335

      The Black Cat map has restored the South Bend radiation readings. They are still not being displayed on the Radiation Network, however. I wonder if the outage on Black Cat meant that they were working on trying to figure out what (if anything) went wrong the other night. If so, I hope they provide more information about it.


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  • Sickputer

    Sunday scattershooting:

    Don't know how I missed this story 7 months ago: Iowa electric company notifies Duane Arnold NPP that they will not renew purchase option of nuclear plant electricity in 2014:

    http://business380.com/2011/11/03/alliant-looks-to-end-nuclear-power-purchases-build-new-plant/

    SP: Not only is Big Nuke being dumped, but also King Coal (new plants too expensive). Left unsaid is who will pay for the nuke plant cleanup… Iowa taxpayers?

    Natural gas plants are the new bankers darlings, but the snake in the woodpile is the water contamination from fracking to get the fuel. Oh well, they will burn that stinky bridge when the frackers make a few trillion bucks and flee for fresh deposits abroad. China will welcome frackers….toxic water tables are a breeze compared to plastic milk, poisoned dog food, and man-killing toothpaste. All in the crazy days work of modern naked apes…conquer and despoil mother earth like there is no tomorrow (one day there won't be one).

    Also.. Gundersen may not please everyone on Enenews, but he is far more disliked by the main stream Nuclear Nazis ( read the comments at this link where the angry pro-nukers label Arnies' friends as Nazis):

    http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/2012/04/arnie-gundersen-authors-another-shoddy.html?m=1


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  • The Blue Light.

    Advise welcome.
    I worked in the British and American nuclear weapons programs from 59' until 92' when the cold war ended and I no longer thought it right to continue, the 'Peace dividend' and all that.
    I felt that no one had explained the explosion at Fukushima R3 so I would look into it. I think I have explained it. The paper I have prepared was made with help from various experts, other physicists, explosive experts and structural engineers. Its been read by fifteen academics who are well thought of in their fields, without negative comment.
    My conclusions can be applied to all spent fuel pools be they commercial, military or scientific they are all at risk from this type of failure.
    My problem is that due to my past work the governments of the UK and the US can attack me with security legislation like the 'offical secrets act' and the 'patriots act'. I always thought I would have the courage to fight the good fight and do what was right. Since I started on this work people have been told not to speak to me, I have been called in for a security review, my mail as been opened, I have been followed and I have been told by an expert that my telephone is being tapped. These people control my income, communication, health care and freedom.
    I am at a loss at what to do, the feeling of been part of a system and then been completely removed from that system will stay with me for my remaining years.
    As I stated above 'Advise and wise counsel' are most welcome.


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    • You may have to leak yourself. o_o


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    • I've posted your comment over at this thread as well BlueLight:

      Cover-up: Researchers having ‘extraordinarily difficult time’ getting Fukushima articles published due to nuclear industry pressure (AUDIO)

      http://enenews.com/researchers-having-extraordinarily-difficult-time-getting-fukushima-articles-published-due-nuclear-industry-pressure-video/comment-page-1#comment-260454


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    • I'm just hoping someone spell- and grammar-checked that report before it was sent out.

      Would give it more credibility.

      You might try sending a copy to Christopher Busby, and to Arnie Gundersen first. Actually, Arnie would be a better bet for nuclear engineering issues such as the one you describe.

      Also, he's been through a similar situation.

      fairewinds.com


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      • The Blue Light.

        Er yes your right. I can make numbers dance around in my head but I cannot do syntax, I still right in block capitals, so I can read my own writing.
        Thank you for your comments and advise Pu239, other peoples advise brings me back from that manic edge.


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        • Cheers BlueLight,

          No probs. I just know, having worked for the Canadian government previously (for 20 years) that you won't be taken seriously unless the grammar and such is impeccable.

          E.g. change 'advise' to 'advice'.

          I know that health defects can affect writing (and some of us are lucky so far not to have any health problems) but it would help to grammar-check through one of us before getting it fact-and-otherwise checked through Arnie.

          It'll improve your chances of getting the word out.


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        • I know a brilliant geneticist who can barely write a grammatical sentence!


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    • andii

      Please speak to Alex Jones, he will, perhaps delicately, expose it for you ;)


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    • arclight arclight

      contact also richard bramhall for advise heres a link to him

      SiteManager@llrc.org

      phone number here

      01597 824 771 in United Kingdom
      44 1597 824 771 from outside UK

      good luck and dont worry about the surviellance, its to be expected.. they use it sometimes to try and freak people out.. a simple weapon against the anti nukes and has proven be effective.. err sort off :)

      another person with dyslexia !! cool!!

      1950`s atmospheric weapons testing maybe?? ;) only joshing..
      welcome to the interesting world of enenews.. we got "them" on the run though!! ;) lol!


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      • arclight arclight

        @the blue light

        thats the adhd.. got distracted.. luckily for us admin is an equal opprtunity blogger! :)


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      • You could be right arclight on the dyslexia, and hope I'm not being insensitive to BlueLight (not the intention).

        I was born in NZ around the time of nuclear testing in the Pacific, but managed to avoid any health problems, so far.

        "Recent studies suggest that something like 15 percent to 20 percent of the population has some type of reading disability, and of those people, about 85 percent have a form of dyslexia."

        http://health.howstuffworks.com/mental-health/neurological-conditions/question666.htm

        In any case, you're both doing fine, even with that handicap, i.e the thought processes and so on seem to be intact.

        Not sure about mine sometimes ….

        /smile


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      • The Blue Light.

        People would be suprised by the large minority of physicists who disagree with nuclear power. The knowledge that we have enough trouble controlling a plutonium production reactor without adding a set of turbines and then making the whole kettle ten times bigger makes the whole scheme a no brainer.
        Even at my age I am beginning to realise why the authorities are so frightened of the internet, when a person can use another persons computer and address and seek advise from people they will never meet and who can be anywhere on the globe makes the internet uncontrolable.
        That people on this site can give advise to someone they do not know or may never know almost brings me to tears, thank you.


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    • The Blue Light

      The only reason this type of censorship can occur is because people with PhDs are for the most part sheep who believe in institutional authority (I'm an academic).

      The solution is solidarity.

      I am not sure how to achieve it, though.

      I feel as if we could awaken other academics then a stand could be taken that could not be ignored by the mainstream media and government agencies.

      I tried to do this with my Lessons of Fukushima powerpoint.

      I am now assembling a new powerpoint with all the recent scientific studies that I plan on posting at academia.edu

      I know I'll be ridiculed and dismissed but I think this crisis is so large that we must take personal risks

      The cockroach population that lives in my garden has mostly disappeared. There are few june bugs this year. I have seen no bats this year.

      The june bugs and bats might be affected by the drought, but the cockroaches in my garden have had no water deficit nor any chemical contamination.

      I find their demise to be incredibly alarming.


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    • Hi Blue Light. Have you thought about sharing and uploading on the web? Some of us would be grateful to read your work. Good to see you. Chem


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  • Holy smokes!

    "Scientists estimate that the mass of debris from the Japanese earthquake making its way to the United States and Canadian coastlines is three times the size of the U.S."

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/japan-tsunami-debris-control-brink-disaster/story?id=16528993#.T9TYkLBrPjI

    I was under the (mistaken) impression it was only the size of California (which is also big).


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  • Even more alarming, ABC's irresponsible advice:

    "If citizens come across disposable or recyclable items, she said, they can help by ***picking them up*** and putting them in an appropriate place."

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/japan-tsunami-debris-control-brink-disaster/story?id=16528993#.T9TYkLBrPjI


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  • Oh boy:

    "Ebbesmeyer said he is greatly concerned with two other central issues connected to the debris. The first is that it's estimated that about half of the debris is Styrofoam, which is not recyclable. The second is that the items could be carrying invasive Japanese species, like scientists believe the washed up dock was carrying."

    And the third?

    Conveniently ommitted.

    Thank you ABCNews.


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  • katana

    Apologies if this has been posted before:

    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html

    The first point is the admission that "Overall, the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant remains very serious."

    Then comes the comedy:

    1./ Evidently, the containment vessels are still intact , although there is molten fuel in the bottom of them.

    2./TEPCO has formulated the hypothesis that the damage to the Unit 4 building could have been caused by hydrogen generated at Unit 3 that flowed into Unit 4.

    For the second statement, the IAEA owe me a new keyboard – mine is soaked with coffee!!


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  • Mothercares

    Ok, Thank you everyone for keeping on here and giving advise, news and updates. It's been a while, for me. Life as usual proceeds first. Anyway's, I have found a few dead things lately. First one, bluejay, a baby bird-I figured it could have fallen out of the nest. The next was a rat-not a mouse. Appx. 12 inches in body and 6 inch tail. Brown fur. Dead, it could have eaten some poison, since the vermin appear to be showing up around our neighborhood. The next was a black squirrel-no signs of abuse by vehicle or attacked by an animal. A couple of neighbors have said they found some dead animals as well. I was wondering if anyone else? and if this had something to do the the rad stuff in Indiana-I am in Michigan. Thanks


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  • lam335 lam335

    Radiation Network appears to be down completely.

    http://radiationnetwork.com/


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  • Jebus Jebus

    How hard is it to dismantle 150 nuclear reactors? Europe’s about to find out.

    Very broadly speaking, there are three main ways to decommission a nuclear reactor. The first option is to remove the fuel, disassemble the surrounding structure and find a safe place to store all the different radioactive bits. One problem with this option? Not every country in Europe currently has proper waste facilities set up, Pearce reports.

    Alternatively, workers could simply take out the fuel, drain the plumbing and then lock up the reactor, letting the isotopes decay until the plant itself is less radioactive. After 10 to 80 years, the whole structure will be easier to dismantle. The third option, meanwhile, is to bury the reactor in a “tomb” of concrete and hope that no one cracks the structure open for the next 1,400 years. The U.S. Department of Energy took this approach for two old reactors at Savannah River in South Carolina.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/how-hard-is-it-to-dismantle-150-nuclear-reactors-europes-about-to-find-out/2012/06/09/gJQA2EH0PV_blog.html


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  • Jebus Jebus

    The road from Chernobyl, by Alexander Likhotal

    During a visit to Chernobyl in April, I learned about a new project to build, by 2015, a “shelter” to lock in the radiation still emanating from the reactor. The price tag is estimated at €1.5 billion ($1.9 billion). But this sarcophagus is no more than a wildly expensive Band-Aid, which will be ripped off a still-festering wound in 100 years, by which point, it is hoped, a permanent solution will have been found.

    http://www.eco-business.com/opinion/the-road-from-chernobyl-by-alexander-likhotal/

    http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/archive/2855/28551401.jpg


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  • Jebus Jebus

    The Marshall Islands: Tropical idylls scarred like Tohoku

    On March 1, 1954, in one test codenamed Castle Bravo, a hydrogen-bomb explosion with a power 1,000 times the combined explosive force of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs spewed radioactive fallout over a much wider area than had been expected. The mushroom cloud roared up to 40 km into the sky and spread across an area 10 km in diameter, and fallout contaminated a huge swath of the ocean, and atolls in the Marshalls including Rongerik, Rongelap and its epicenter, Bikini. De Brum said the powdery white fallout on Likiep Atoll killed his three brothers and other relatives with premature cancer. "I was lucky," he said. "I wasn't on Likiep that day."

    In fact, he was a mechanic on his way to work on Kwajalein, about 450 km from the bomb site, when he saw a flash in the sky. "It was brighter, brighter, brighter. Like a flashlight in your eyes. I needed about 30 seconds to get my sight back. I thought it was the end of the world. Two or three minutes later, ja-rom. Rumble and banging. People fell down," he recalled with excitement.

    "They didn't even tell us on Kwajalein to be ready. I was there when they brought that thing on the plane, with hundreds of military police to guard it. Nobody knew what it was."

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/rss/fl20120610x1.html


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    • dharmasyd

      PICO — BOOM ! The Japanese of Hiroshima and Nagaski had no words to explain what they experienced, so they named it by what they experienced, "Pico – Boom." First the blinding flash of light (Pico), then, because it moves more slowly, the sound (Boom). They called the Atomic bombs they experienced "Pico Boom." Those who were close enough to experience the light and boom as simultaneous — were vaporized…

      "Imagination is captured
      By the figure of a girl
      Skipping in boundless childhood joy
      Seared into the pavement of the bridge.

      She probably felt no pain
      Going at the speed of light
      In that diaspora between
      Dalliance and disappearance."

      My heart is filled with sorrow tonight.
      It sees pico-boom to be more merciful
      Than this Bataan Death march of the mind
      Where the hubris of our ignorance leads
      Us into further abrogation — because
      We cannot just let go, admit the mistake
      Go back to the start and begin again.

      Which is what we must do.
      To continue to live
      To evolve.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Atmospheric dispersion of radionuclides from the Fukushima-Daichii nuclear power plant

    http://cerea.enpc.fr/en/fukushima.html

    Fukushima Forecast Bulletin

    http://sirocco.omp.obs-mip.fr/outils/Symphonie/Produits/Japan/SymphoniePreviJapan.htm


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  • Sue

    1,000 US High School students to do volunteer clean-up and tree planting in Fukushima, Miyagi, Iwate, Ibaraki and observe Japan's recovery

    http://ex-skf.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/1000-us-high-school-students-to-do.html

    Another story that makes it hard to keep your breakfast down.
    Is it our duty to inform these parents? If we don't get the word out are we not complicit?


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    • Sue

      If anyone would like to contact the Kizuna Project regarding the above American/Japanese exchange programme (I think that other countries are also participating in these fully-funded programmes), please call Megan Bernard in Seattle on 206 367 2152.

      http://www.laurasian.org/kizuna/index.htm

      The Kizuna Project is supported by UNESCO.


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      • andii

        Oh, it's funded by UNesco!? That says it all. UN has no interest in saving lives and they are hurrying to achieve their agenda 21. Children is our future and obviously they have figured out that children from all over the world should also be exterminated!!


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  • andii

    This is a terrible story. If there was no radiation pollution, it's a great idea as children could learn from this volunteering work but it's absolutely NO NO now.

    We must tell parents about the danger as they are most likely uninformed of radiation pollution and current state of SFP4.


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  • BLACK RAIN

    Might there be a way of checking levels of fallout by checking the change in color of rain? (Even if the change in color is minute, it must still be detectable.)

    http://atomicbombmuseum.org/3_radioactivity.shtml

    "The mixing of enormous amounts of airborne irradiated materials combined with heat and thermal currents from the firestorms led to rainfall in both cities within 30-40 minutes of the bombings. As the fallout particles were mixed with carbon residue from citywide fires, the result was the awesome—and injurious—“black rain.”

    This “black rain” reached ground level as sticky, dark, dangerously radioactive water. It not only stained skin, clothing, and buildings, but also was ingested by breathing and by consumption of contaminated food or water, causing radiation poisoning."

    [reposted from another thread - my original comment]


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