FORUM: General Discussion Thread (Nuclear Issues) for Mar. 1 – 11, 2012

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  • openeye openeye

    @whataboutthekids: I did intensive research after Fuku and learned that the only method that removes most of the radiation from water is reverse osmosis. Ironically, the public water where I live is so bad in other respects that RO water is available for 25 cents/gallon. I buy it in town and bring it my homestead/I do not have a well.(Even well water will eventually be contaminated)….Today I came across a Jewish ritual for "letting go," which incorporated the Psalm of David and has lots of double entendres; I wept at the following parts:

    I stretch forth my hands to you
    my soul thirsts after you
    like a parched land in a drought
    Answer me speedily, O God
    My spirit fails
    do not hide your face from me
    lest I be like those who go down
    into the pit.
    Let me hear your loving kindness….
    let me know the path
    where I should walk….
    let your good spirit lead me
    to a level land.

    P.S. You can also buy RO water for a buck a gallon at dollar stores. Be sure to wash in it too, not in public water.


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  • many moons

    I can't understand why no mentions the earth quake damage. Richard engels discribes fukushima evacuation zone but mentions notheing of the EQ damage. Where was the earth quake damage?


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  • openeye openeye

    You are most welcome. I am not Jewish but I got a lot out of this: http://www.ritualwell.org/categories/77 …Just as I am not Catholic, but get a lot out of the writings and suggested rituals of Clarissa Pinkola Estes.

    Someone wrote that it would be such grace if we who post here could all meet and cry together. Short of that, this site (are you listening enenews??)is a lifeline. I was so depressed when I woke today I took a "mental health" day from work; coming here on and off has kept me going minute by minute.

    As you may have noticed me say, I spent 15 years using horses and other animals (including dolphins) to help kids in need. And I have swum with the gentle giant manatees (never could afford to go to the wild dolphins). So yes, letting go and grieving are the order of the day. And then back to fight the good fight: "The awake lion prowls where once it feared to tread." (St. John of the Cross, after months of torture by fellow priests).

    Bless you.


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      I agree, OpenEye. Healing and comforting rituals and gatherings of caring, kindred spirits are definitely the order of the day, especially for the growing numbers of people with "Open Eyes" as your screenname so aptly describes.

      I too appreciate having found this space where people who are aware -and care- can gather to learn, share and support (and yes, debate, though I prefer respectful discussion, rather than name calling and bravado). ;-)


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      • What-About-The-Kids

        Forgot to thank you for your dedication to helping children in need through the healing experience of animals. How wonderful! :-) Wouldn't it be rewarding to do similar work with children from Japan who have been traumatised by the crisis there since 3/11?

        Bless you for your caring spirit.


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  • Fukushima 50: Japan’s Volunteer Heroes and The International Volunteers they Inspire
    Thursday, March 8th, 2012

    When city officials, reeling from the massive tsunami that ravaged Japan, realized their Fukushima Daiichi power plant was facing a potential melt down, they were at a loss. The surrounding villages were under an evacuation order—the plant was about to vent radioactive vapor to avoid an infrastructure collapse and the resulting radiation would be extremely hazardous to human health—yet someone had to stay behind to operate the machinery. Who could they possibly find to make that kind of sacrifice?

    They didn’t need to find anyone because 200 brave souls volunteered. They worked in shifts of 50 at a time, earning them the moniker “The Fukushima 50.” At the time there was no way of knowing just …

    http://journeys4good.com/on-location/fukushima-50-japans-volunteer-heroes-and-the-international-volunteers-they-inspire/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fukushima-50-japans-volunteer-heroes-and-the-international-volunteers-they-inspire


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  • Japan posts record current account deficit

    Energy imports rise to meet nuclear shortfall after last year’s tsunami

    JAPAN Frustration at slow recovery after tsunami

    Labour shortages impede rebuilding

    Disquiet at Japan’s record current account deficit

    Biggest monthly shortfall since 1985 defies forecasts

    Japan hopes clean-up ads do not go to waste

    Environment ministry struggles to dispose of tsunami debris

    http://www.ft.com/intl/world/asia-pacific


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  • Fukushima: One year after the disaster

    March 8, 2012.
    In Chernobyl you can buy a house for $400 (US).

    That’s because more than 19 years ago the city was hit with the biggest nuclear disaster in history. Only now are a select few people moving back to Ukraine’s ground zero. …

    http://blogs.canada.com/2012/03/08/fukushima-one-year-after-the-disaster/


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  • Letters bring hope to survivors in Japan

    Thu March 8, 2012
    (CNN) — Editor's note: Kathleen Koch is author of the best-selling book, "Rising from Katrina," which explores how citizens recover from disasters. She was a CNN correspondent for 18 years.

    For the last year my dining room has looked like the local post office, minus the junk mail. Stacks of letters from around the country piled high. But in this case, there was only one destination — Japan. While most were collecting money to help the survivors of the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear crisis, I wanted to send something equally crucial to their recovery: hope.

    "Words of Hope for Japan" began in March 2011 with a trickle, just 10 letters, all from individuals. But soon they were pouring in at the rate of 200 a day! Schools, churches, Rotary Clubs, Boy Scout and Girl Scout troops. In the end, some 5568 cards and letters arrived from the United States, Canada and Mexico making it the largest letter-writing campaign for Japan in the country. So many felt moved to offer words of support and condolence to those who had lost so much. …

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/08/world/iyw-words-of-hope-update/index.html


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  • What-About-The-Kids

    I posted this under the article about the "Controversy After US Gov't Estimates Showed 4,000 microsievert thyroid dose in California Infants" but not sure anyone's reading the comments thread there so I'm posting it here, just in case:

    Here the article link which I am referring to: http://enenews.com/controversy-after-govt-estimate-showed-40000-microsievert-thyroid-dose-california-infants-after-fukushima-very-high-doses-children-releasing-info-public/comment-page-2

    Good news! The news is spreading! Remember my post yesterday, saying this news about the high dose estimates for California children's thyroids not being made public came up with 1,800+ mentions in a Google search?

    Well, today, the same search on Google for "controversy after US gov't estimate" scores 3,470 mentions! Please keep spreading the news! Our children need and deserve our protection. Parents need to be aware and know how to help keep their kids healthy and safe. Thank you!


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  • TV Ad Campaign Opposes New Nuclear Plant

    A group opposed to the development of new nuclear power plants launched a television ad campaign in Iowa, raising questions about the safety of nuclear power … DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — A group opposed to the development of new nuclear power plants launched a television ad campaign in Iowa on Wednesday, raising questions about the safety of nuclear power.

    Friends of the Earth's advertising campaign comes as a legislative committee will consider a bill Thursday that outlines how utility rates would be set if MidAmerican Energy, Iowa's largest power provider, builds a nuclear power plant in Iowa. Costs for the plant are estimated at $2 billion.

    The environmental group, based in Washington, D.C., spent about $8,400 on the 30-second commercial that is running in the Des Moines, Cedar Rapids and Sioux City markets.

    The ad starts out with an explosion and dramatic … continue

    http://www.chem.info/News/2012/03/Plant-Operations-TV-Ad-Campaign-Opposes-New-Nuclear-Plant/


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  • NY Company Grows Mushrooms as Packing Material

    GREEN ISLAND, N.Y. (AP) — Turns out that mushrooms — great in soups and salads — also make decent packaging material.

    Mushrooms are a key ingredient in the pale, soft blocks produced by the thousands in an upstate New York plant that are used to cushion products ranging from Dell Inc. servers … continue

    http://www.chem.info/News/2012/03/Plant-Operations-NY-Company-Grows-Mushrooms-as-Packing-Material

    Gotta wonder the radioactive count ??


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  • CB CB

    Feeling sad or depressed? http://twitpic.com/8tuap1
    Thought it funny!


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  • lam335 lam335

    Not sure why this just got posted today:

    Radioactivity from the Fukushima nuclear reactor accident in Japan reached Ireland in the weeks after the event. It arrived at such low levels, however, that it had no significance for either public health or food safety, according to a report on the incident from the Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland. “The levels that we have detected were very low,” Dr Ciara McMahon, the institute’s director of environmental surveillance and assessment, said yesterday. “There was no health hazard, but the incident provided a useful test of our equipment.” She said the institute maintained 14 permanent radioactivity monitoring stations… The institute also receives sampling data from other monitoring done by the Department of Agriculture and Food… Dr McMahon said the Fukushima incident delivered a radiation dose of 0.26 microsieverts, a tiny addition to the average annual dose we receive from natural radiation sources of 3,950 microsieverts. … The incident … showed the need for nuclear authorities worldwide to re-evaluate their safety procedures, said the institute’s chief executive, Dr Ann McGarry. There was “no room for complacency within the international nuclear industry”. “A nuclear accident anywhere has potential to be a nuclear accident everywhere.”… The monitoring stations detected radioactive Iodine-131 and two forms of radioactive Caesium, Cs-137 and Cs-134.
    http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=HZ-20120309-34453-IRL


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    • arclight arclight

      grrr! the irish radiological board missed all the other reactor emmissions.. how can they be taken seriously when they show a constant no effect.. the radiation monitors are MORE averaged than the UK ones! to the irish radiation monitoring (i use the term looooseley)

      Pog mo hoin!!

      i am sure they cant be good irishmen that would cover up the pollution of the children of eire!! bad show!!


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  • lam335 lam335

    Japan barely improves nuclear regulatory system

    "Right after three reactors in northeastern Japan sank into meltdowns, the government vowed to sever the cozy relations between the nuclear industry and its regulators. One year later, it has yet to even appoint committee members to scrutinize the "revolving door" of officials landing jobs in the very industries they regulate…."

    http://my.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20120309/c20a0720-3408-4c43-841d-c9ea75577943


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  • Panel: U.S. should rethink nuke emergency plans

    WASHINGTON The U.S. should customize emergency plans for each of the nation’s 65 nuclear power plants, a change that in some cases could expand the standard 10-mile evacuation zone in place for more than three decades, an expert panel is recommending. That’s one of the lessons to emerge in a 40-page report released Thursday – three days before the one-year anniversary of Japan’s nuclear disaster – from a committee that examined the incident for the American Nuclear Society. The panel includes a former chairman of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, a fellow at an Energy Department laboratory and seven other nuclear scientists. The report concludes that U.S. nuclear power oversight is adequate to protect public health and safety but that

    http://www.thestate.com/2012/03/09/2183918/business-notebook.html


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  • Japan's survival spirit rises from rubble

    ONE year since an earthquake and tsunami almost obliterated parts of Japan, thousands of refugees are living in limbo.

    THE 71-year-old fisherman turns his ruddy, weathered face towards the top of the hillside cemetery. With a heavy heart, he climbs steadily past row after row of tall tombstones, a bucket of water in each hand.

    Takayuki Sato is here to clean the family grave. He lost his wife and mother in the tsunami that obliterated most of this once-picturesque fishing town famous for its salmon, seaweed and octopus. The women's bodies were never found.

    He also lost his best friend, an aunt and uncle, his house and three boats. Nearly everything …

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/japan-struggles-to-rise-from-the-rubble/story-fn6bqvxz-1226295381654


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  • Scientists warn Tokyo could soon be hit by major earthquake

    March 9, 2012 – JAPAN – A year on from one of the biggest earthquakes in recorded history, Japanese scientists are warning anew that Tokyo could soon be hit by a quake that will kill thousands and cause untold damage. Greater Tokyo, home to 35 million tightly packed people, has seen a three-fold increase in tectonic activity since the magnitude 9.0 undersea quake that unleashed a killer tsunami last March. Every day …

    http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Quake_researchers_warn_of_Tokyos_Big_One_999.html

    Earthquakes in Japan increase five-fold after March 11, 2011 earthquake

    March 9, 2012 – JAPAN – Figures compiled by the ABC reveal that since the massive earthquake in Japan a year ago the country has been rattled by more than five times as many tremors as usual. That includes 10 aftershocks of magnitude seven or greater. Using figures provided by Japan’s meteorological agency, the ABC found that there have been more than 9,000 significant tremors under and around Japan since last year’s March 11 earthquake. That compares with 1,300 for all of …

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-09/japan-earthquakes-over-time/3879910


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  • WorseThanChernobyl

    There is going to be an event in Washington State near the Columbia Generating Station on March 11 for the anniversary of Fukushima. Here is the info:

    Richland: March 11. Please come for Ceremonies of Compassion and Protection at the Gates of Hanford's Nuclear Power Plant noon to sundown in a network of community & love for the victims of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Accident in Northern Japan on the Pacific Ocean a year ago.

    RIDES GIVEN and arranged. Ceremonies welcome; microphone/amplification available. Musicians, artists, stewards of the land air & waters, mothers and others, all welcome.

    Please phone Nuke Info Project, 541-653-4355, Louisa Hamachek


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    • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

      Are we pointing at the right guy?

      Takeuchi's stint as a plant worker didn't last long. After a month, the radiation played on his mind. He didn't get much sleep and the jokes of his seniors became too much to bear: "They'd say with a smile that 'you'll be fine, but your kids will be born with hands coming out their noses,' " he said.

      Takeuchi said he was present at the plant at the time the mysterious pointer video was made, on Aug. 28, but that before the month was over, he had quit. He left having been exposed to a total of two millisieverts of radiation (the government-imposed limit is now 50 millisieverts per year) and was given a whole-body scan for radiation absorption that returned a result of "no problem."

      http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fa20120308a1.html


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      • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

        "Even if I said it was me, it would in fact be very difficult for you to confirm that I was telling the truth," he said. "The person in the video has gone to a lot of trouble to remove all identifying marks from his suit. Usually everyone has their name written on their suit."

        He explained that it is this nontraceability that attracted him to the video — and prompted him to include it in his exhibition.

        Takeuchi explained that the same issues plague everything that has occurred at Fukushima since March 11, 2011: How can we really verify for ourselves anything that we are told?

        "The technology used in nuclear power generation is complex, we can't see what is happening in the reactor, and we can't 'see' through the media either, as they are restricted from reporting within the exclusion zone," he said.

        The only thing we can do in the face of such situations is to come together and talk, one on one, to build up trust, the artist said. And that, he continued, is what he will do during his exhibition. In addition to displaying the video of the pointer and various documentation of his own attempts to have working conditions at the plant improved, Takeuchi will attend the exhibition venue every day and conduct a "performance" in which he'll talk to visitors one-on-one.


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  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    Via What-About-The-Kids http://capitoilette.com/2012/03/09/fukushima-one-year-on-many-revelations-few-surprises/

    Since the 1970s, disaster risk has been deliberately downplayed by what has been called Japan’s nuclear mura (“village” or “community”)–that is, nuclear advocates in industry, government, and academia, along with local leaders hoping to have nuclear power plants built in their municipalities. The mura has feared that if the risks related to nuclear energy were publicly acknowledged, citizens would demand that plants be shut down until the risks were removed. Japan’s nuclear community has also feared that preparation for a nuclear accident would in itself become a source of anxiety for people living near the plants.

    The power of this myth, according to the authors, is strong. It led the government to actively cancel safety drills in the wake of previous, smaller nuclear incidents–claiming that they would cause “unnecessary anxiety”–and it led to a convenient classification for the events of last March 11:

    The word used then to describe risks that would cause unnecessary public anxiety and misunderstanding was “unanticipated.” Significantly, TEPCO has been using this very word to describe the height of the March 11 tsunami that cut off primary and backup power to Fukushima Daiichi.


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    • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

      Instead, both the industry and the government chose to perpetuate the “safety myth,” fearing that any admission of a need to improve or retrofit safety systems would result in “undue anxiety”–and, more importantly, public pressure to make costly changes.

      In fact, reading the BAS Fukushima review, it is dishearteningly easy to imagine you are reading about the state of the American nuclear reactor fleet. Swapping in places like Three Mile Island, Palisades, Browns Ferry, Davis-Besse, San Onofre, Diablo Canyon, Vermont Yankee, and Indian Point for the assorted Japanese nuclear power plants is far too easy, and replacing the names of the much-maligned Japanese regulatory agencies with “Nuclear Regulatory Commission” and “Department of Energy” is easier still.


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  • arclight arclight

    BREAKING chris busby

    caught this and thought it interesting..chris busby appeals to the public to contact the charity commission because the childrens charity has a pro nuke bias that ignores the facts of uranium causation of leukemia in children!!

    Uploaded by drdrwoland on 9 Mar 2012

    "Chris Busby lays into the UK charity Children with Cancer, the largest childhood cancer charity in the UK, which he explains is standing in the way of finding the real causes of childhood cancer. He advises people to stop donating their money to an organisation that wastes it and which avoids looking at what is the obvious cause of childhood cancer, environmental exposure to radioactive contamination. This is clear from the recent studies of uranium particle exposure in Fallujah Iraq and a 14-fold increase in childhood cancer in that town. Nuclear sites, he argues, also run on uranium and release particulates, and are associated with childhood cancer. He accuses the conference committee of bias and draws attention to the astonishing choice of ex- nuclear industry British Nuclear Fuels (Sellafield) research chief, Richard Wakeford, (a man who has described himself as BNFLs Rottweiler) as the CWC plenary conference speaker on the relationship between ionizing radiation and childhood leukemia. He asks members of the public to write and complain to the charity commission and the trustees of the CWC ."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMyWYbqvlFM

    as soon as i get british telecom to sort my email out (next 12 hours apparently?) i will be contacting the charity commission with any peer reviewed info related to ionising radiation and children! any links to same would be cool.. :) hope whoopie gets this video!

    still lurking, still planning ;)


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    • arclight arclight

      to clarify

      the UN charter to give children the same rights as adults is soon to be ratified… parents in fukushima will be sueing for there children at the UN.. this move by the pro nuke wakeford mob will ensure that the link to particles and cancer will NOT be proven.. this is VERY serious i believe.. a classic move by "mindshare WPP" .. I think we should fight this now before the soon at the international children with cancer conference.. "lies and criminality!" said busby and hes right! this is a cover for fallujah fukushima et al. mark my words.. :( gonna think about this tonight and repost on the campaign thread… the PR shit has hit the fan!!

      "or its all too sad!" busbies closing words!

      peace light and love!!


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    • arclight arclight

      DEPLETED URANIUM IN THE HUMAN BODY: Sr Rosalie Bertell, PhD

      snowshoefilms series #1) Epidemiologist Rosalie Bertell (PhD, biometrics)explains the effects of the weaponized DU on the people of Iraq and the planet. In subsequent parts of this series, Dr. Bertell offers readily-accessible ways to detox some heavy metals and poisons from the body.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgQ79-oDX2o&feature=bf_next&list=HL1331336068&lf=mh_lolz


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    • arclight arclight

      When the Dust Settles

      Animated short on the impact of depleted uranium weapons and the international campaign against them, produced by the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons and IKV Pax Christi.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlGPtBX0IRY&feature=bf_next&list=HL1331336068&lf=mh_lolz


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      • VanneV anne

        Thanks very much, arclight. We miss you. Take care.


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      • arclight arclight

        Causes of childhood cancer fron the CWC site..

        Ionising radiation

        "The link between childhood cancer and ionising radiation is well-established.(i think not! read on…arc)

        Some of the first evidence came from a study of children whose mothers received abdominal x-rays during pregnancy, a practice which is now avoided.

        Further evidence comes from studies of the Japanese atomic bomb survivors. There has been a general excess of cancer in the exposed population, but the greatest excess was for leukaemia. The risk for those exposed at young ages was especially pronounced.

        The Chernobyl nuclear reactor disaster in 1986 resulted in a marked excess of thyroid cancer in children in the vicinity of Chernobyl. The excess, which began to appear five years after the incident, is apparent in children who were less than 10 years of age at the time of exposure.

        Reports during the 1980s and 90s of excesses of childhood leukaemia in the vicinity of certain nuclear installations (around Sellafield in England, Dounreay in Scotland and La Hague in France) caused a great deal of concern.

        Radiation doses from exposure to discharged radioactivity, however, were considered to be too low to account for the cluster. The most favoured explanation for these – and other – clusters relates to unusual patterns of population mixing (see "Infections" below).

        It has been suggested that exposure to natural background radiation, to which we are all constantly exposed, may be a factor in the aetiology of childhood cancer, particularly leukaemia.

        Although not proven, published risk estimates suggest that 15 to 20 per cent of childhood leukaemia cases in Great Britain could be attributable to this exposure. "

        http://www.childrenwithcancer.org.uk/causes-of-childhood-cancer


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      • Lacsap Lacsap

        Depleted sounds like burn out or something but it's NOT. Depleted uranium is no more then uranium-238 and is on top of the isotope chain. The half-life of uranium-238 is about 4.47 billion years. Uranium-238 is fissionable by fast neutrons, and is fertile, meaning it can be transmuted to fissile plutonium-239 in a nuclear reactor. Waste products of nuclear fission are Strontium-90, Cesium-137, and Iodine-131.


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    • arclight arclight

      Health uncertainties torment residents in Fukushima

      The government spokesman keeps saying there are no IMMEDIATE health effects,” the 48-year-old nursery school worker says. “He’s not talking about 10 years or 20 years later. He must think the people of Fukushima are fools.

      “It’s not really OK to live here,” she says. “But we live here.”

      and this

      "What’s clear is Fukushima will serve as a test case that the world is watching for long-term exposure to low-dose radiation.

      More than 280,000 people live in Fukushima city alone, though some have left, and many more live in surrounding towns, including many of the 100,000 who have been evacuated from the no-go zone.

      “People are scared to death,” says Wolfgang Weiss, chairman of the U.N. Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation, which is studying Fukushima. “They are thinking, ‘Tell me. Is it good or bad?’ We can’t tell them. Life is risky.”

      It hasn’t helped that the government has given only the most optimistic scenarios of the risks to avoid mass panic.

      Public skepticism of government assurances grew when the man appointed as health adviser for Fukushima Prefecture, Shunichi Yamashita, repeatedly said exposure to 100 millisieverts of radiation a year was safe.

      Studies have found that cancer risks rise at an annual exposure of 100 millsieverts or above but aren’t statistically detectable at lower levels. Below 100, experts can’t say for sure whether it’s safe, just that a link to cancer can’t be proven."

      and there enters Richard Wakeford, our statistical hero.. hes on the video in sept 2011 at the fukushima fund raising conference for the pro nukes.. local activists were barred from the "conference/fund raiser"!!

      http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/health-uncertainties-torment-residents-in-fukushima?utm_campaign=jt_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jt_newsletter_2012-03-10_PM

      yep! japan today? wow! :)


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    • arclight arclight

      heres richard wakeford "live on stage"! at fukushima symposium september 2011

      11:15-12:45 Session V: Radiation Safety and Guidelines Regarding Health Risks
      Cancer models and radiation protection
      Richard Wakeford (University of Manchester, UK)

      at 21.17 Richard Wakeford

      says anything below 100 mgray no worry goes on to discuss thresholds and small risk of low dose damage. Says that figures are clear at 1+ gray but lower down admits things are "not so clear" 50 to 100 milligray data shows some damage.. mainly talks of xray not particulate radiation concerning pregnant women..
      @38.38 when asked about internal and external radiation differences he said he sat on a difficult committee for three years which he sniped about.. audience laughs!!. he said that the claims made by the radiological committee "don't hold water" . lots of help from the audience to divert the question too!

      http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/17224132


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    • arclight arclight

      The health effects to Americans exposed to Iodine-131 from above ground nuclear testing

      "…….To serve the public interest, the major contribution that the government can make is not to launch an ineffective but politically appealing screening program but rather, to develop effective ways to communicate with the public about iodine-131 exposure and health risks and to involve the public in determining what communication strategies people will find understandable, useful, and trustworthy.

      William J. Schull, Ph.D.

      Co-Chair

      Robert S. Lawrence, M.D.

      Co-Chair"

      http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6283&page=R10

      this report was funded by the national cancer institute..

      and heres buffler..

      Patricia A. Buffler, PhD, MPH

      http://coeh.berkeley.edu/people/faculty/buffler.htm

      and this from her report

      "To justify screening, there must be evidence that screening tests can detect thyroid cancer accurately and safely in asymptomatic individuals, that early treatment decreases mortality or morbidity from thyroid cancer when compared with delaying treatment until symptoms occur, and that the benefits of screening clearly outweigh the adverse effects of the screening program itself. Unfortunately, evidence about the ability of early detection to prevent morbidity and mortality from thyroid cancer is incomplete….
      …. We focus on studies of screening in the general population and in high-risk groups. We examine the accuracy of the tests used for screening, the number of cancer patients detected with screening, and evidence that treatment of cancers found by screening improves outcomes."

      http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6283&page=222

      so the isea is not to trace possible cancers but to treat cancers found! thats the research angle! hmmm! good for oncology shares but…

      look at the contributers .. mostly medical/oncology??


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    • arclight arclight

      Professor Jill Birch BSc, MSc, PhD

      http://www.medicine.manchester.ac.uk/staff/JillBirch

      manchester university?? err newton dept?? richard wakeford?? the same one who will be representing childrens epidemiology?? ex bnf sellafield?? har har!! what a web we wieve..

      looks like thomas is quiet recently?? hmm?


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    • arclight arclight

      Scientific committee

      Professor Denis Henshaw BSc, PhD
      Honorary Scientific Director, CHILDREN with CANCER UK
      Professor Emeritus in Human Radiation Effects, University of Bristol ( THE SAME UNIVERSITY THAT HAD ALLISON WADE TALKING HIS HIGH DOSE NONSENSE)

      Professor Jillian Birch BSc, MSc, PhD
      Professorial Fellow in Cancer Studies, Faculty of Medical and Human Sciences,
      University of Manchester

      Professor Patricia Buffler PhD, MPH
      Professor of Epidemiology, School of Public Health, Division of Epidemiology,
      University of California, Berkeley

      Professor Yuri Dubrova BSc, PhD, DrSci
      Professor of Genetics, School of Biological Sciences,
      University of Leicester (CONNECTED TO MANCHESTER UNI IN RESEARCH/FUNDING)

      Dr Nicholas Goulden MB, ChB, MRCP, FRCPath, PhD
      Consultant in Paediatric Haematology and Bone Marrow Transplantation,
      Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children

      Dr Michael Murphy BA, MB Bchir, MSc, MFCM, FFPHM
      Director, Childhood Cancer Research Group,
      University of Oxford (CONNECTED TO MANCHESTER UNI IN RESEARCH/FUNDING)

      Alasdair Philips BSc, DAgE, MIAgE, MIEEE
      Director, Powerwatch (UK NGO) (Powerwatch is a small non-profit independent organisation with a central role in the UK Electromagnetic Field and Microwave Radiation health debate. We work closely with decision-makers in government and business, and with other like-minded groups, promoting policies for a safer environment. We have been researching electromagnetic field effects on health for over 20 years, and provide a range of information to help the general public try to understand this complex issue.)

      Dr Malcolm Taylor PhD, MRCPCH, FRCPath
      Reader in Cancer Immunogenetics, School of Cancer & Enabling Sciences,
      University of Manchester (AGAIN?)

      CONT….


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      • arclight arclight

        Professor Joseph Wiemels PhD
        Associate Professor, Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics
        University of California, San Francisco

        small world huh?? powerwatch huh? :) wonder why the study busby put forward on behalf of his swedish colleague was dumped??? looks like a loaded committee heres the link to more!!

        http://www.childhoodcancer2012.org.uk/committee.asp

        and heres a link to powerwatch!

        http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/

        i will let you decide who was against busby or not!! mostly uk universities… hate to say i told you so!! uk universities corrupted with nuke puke funding and promises of big oncology!!

        :( are you getting ready for chemo human race and animal test subjects (no difference to the new world medical order!!)!! :(


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        • arclight arclight

          Reg charity number 298405 – CHILDREN WITH CANCER UK
          OUR MAIN AIM IS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CAUSES CHILDREN TO DEVELOP LEUKAEMIA SO THAT THE INCREASING INCIDENCE OF CHILDHOOD LEUKAEMIA CAN BE HALTED AND REVERSED. IT IS THE TRUSTEES' POLICY TO MAXIMISE THE PROPORTION OF ITS CHARITABLE OUTPUT THAT IS ACHIEVED THROUGH GRANT MAKING TO ORGANISATIONS. IT IS INTENDED THAT THE CHARITY WILL FOCUS ON REVENUE FUNDING FOR RESEARCH, INTO CAUSES AND TREATMENT.
          £6, 300 000 charitable spending
          From this link
          http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=298405&SubsidiaryNumber=0

          Aims and objectives abstracts

          “….Childhood cancer is the biggest child-killer disease in the UK and is on the
          Increase….”
          “..Children at risk of cancer benefit from our research into causes and
          prevention and also from our campaign for better protection against risk
          factors.
          There is also benefit for scientists/research institutions requiring much
          needed funding for their research into childhood cancer.
          In addition, society at large benefits from the research into treatment,
          prevention and causes related to childhood cancer that we fund….”

          “…- We will fund high quality research aimed at improving our knowledge
          about the causes of childhood leukaemia and other childhood cancers…”

          “…We monitor the progress of the research projects we fund through a
          combination of progress reports, site visits and review. This is channelled
          through our dedicated Scientific Advisory Panel.
          We monitor the welfare initiatives which we support in a similar way…”

          “Research into prevention £646,000”

          “..We have already launched our 2011 grant round, our largest ever, with
          £2m available for research into the causes of childhood cancers. In
          addition, we hope to fund a number of new initiatives directly focused on
          the treatment of childhood cancer…”
          from this link
          http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/SIR/ENDS05/0000298405_SIR_10_E.PDF


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          • arclight arclight

            £2m available for research into the causes of childhood cancers.

            that means no investigation into the fallujah, uranium leukeamia connections?? not relevant then?? hmmm

            they have increased the budget this year to 2 million quid! to go to medical oncology and a 20 year old virus hunt!!


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        • arclight arclight

          update:
          it may be that powerwatch were supportive of chris busbies position but the website has a vague position on this.. understandable if they wish to project a fair and balanced position?? i recieved a message from one of busbies colleagues saying that he works with them in some fashion..


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  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    Very pleased to see you here arclight :)

    arclight I find this video tells the truth on how dangerous even low does radiation is to children using medical research. Click the See more below the video to see the reports that are discussed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywKv0dj3UuY


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  • CB CB

    Dramatic new footage of 2011 tsunami revealed.: http://youtu.be/PPKQ6r9lWCE


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  • Sickputer

    Saw Central time zone ABC News Nightline about Japan about 30 minutes ago and it should be on in Rocky Mt. and West Coast in the next 90 minutes.

    Pretty pukey… Made the Richard Engel report look intelligent by comparison. Trotted out all the usual lies. Fear kills more people than radiation, etc…

    They have pleased their whipmasters tonight with this pablum.


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  • Radiation fears prompt some to relocate from even Tokyo area

    In western Japan, Osaka, Kyoto and Okayama prefectures saw more incoming people than outbound ones for the first time in about 15 years.
    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/features/news/20120310p2g00m0fe035000c.html


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  • IAEA says nuclear power safer one year after Fukushima

    VIENNA – Nuclear power is safer than it was a year ago when a series of disasters at Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant left 19,000 people dead or missing, the UN atomic energy chief said on Friday, but Greenpeace said no lessons had been learnt.

    In a statement issued ahead of Sunday's first anniversary of the world's worst nuclear crisis since Chernobyl in 1986, Director General Yukiya Amano of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said meaningful steps had been taken to strengthen global nuclear safety since Fukushima.

    "Nuclear safety is stronger than it was a year ago," he said. "We know what went wrong and we have a clear course of action to tackle those causes – not only in Japan, but anywhere in the world."
    Amano added: "Now we have to keep up the momentum. Complacency can kill."
    The Fukushima …

    http://www.theprovince.com/news/IAEA+says+nuclear+power+safer+year+after+Fukushima/6277000/story.html


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    • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

      Thank you, Greenpeace, for the only true statement in this piece.

      ""No doubt even Fukushima Daiichi would have passed those tests," he said in an e-mail to Reuters. The IAEA "even said that the main problem was how to restore public confidence – instead of looking into how to better protect people. This must change, or (the) next nuclear disaster is inevitable."

      If they ever restore public confidence, we are DOOMED'er than we are now.


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  • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

    Don't know if this has been posted before, but this guy has his head on straight. US gov dragging feet of course.

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/03/09-2


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  • jec jec

    Japan winter storm will bring strong winds to Fukushima area March 12th..good news..it blows from west to east, out to sea. Bad news..it blows out to sea and contaminates more of the USA West Coast, Canada, etc.


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  • Sickputer

    SP: Fracking problems to the environment go far beyond just seismic fault activity. We have thousands of mini-Fukushimas underground all over the world where frackers have committed their ugly deeds unfettered by any government oversight. This nightmarish and secretive raping of Mother Earth makes Upton Sinclair's 1906 expose book The Jungle look like a nursery school book.

    Dr. Frankenstein Frackers: Radioactive Cesium In Your Public Drinking Water

    Just read this brief excerpt of a 2009 invention for the fracking industry:

    BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

    In oil and other hydrocarbon production operations, completion, drilling and workover fluids are typically circulated down the string of tubes and upwards around the outside of the tubes, contacting the formation surface of the wellbore from which the hydrocarbons are to be produced. Part of the fluid may be lost into the formation, and frequently the fluid is diluted by indigenous fluid entering from the formation. The salts and other additives in the completion or workover fluid are either partially lost or diluted, or both, as a result of contact with the formation. It is desirable in many instances to use additives which contribute a degree of density to the completion or workover fluid; that is, a dense brine will be able more efficiently to remove loose rock and sand, for example, which otherwise might clog the perforations in the pipe, thus impeding hydrocarbon production. As a relatively heavy alkali metal, cesium works well as a densifying agent in completion and workover fluids, but it is expensive, and, as with any other material which must ultimately be disposed of, should be recycled to the extent reasonably possible. This invention is directed specifically to the recycling of cesium as a densifying agent in completion, drilling and workover fluids and to similar treatment of solutions of cesium obtained in the mining of cesium."

    http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20090277633#b


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  • VanneV anne

    NUCLEAR MADNESS
    1995
    ' Nuclear Madness,' authored by Dr. Helen Caldicott, W.W. Norton & Company, 1994
    “Of all the creatures on Earth, human beings have been found to be one of the most susceptible to the carcinogenic effects of radiation (because their cells are rapidly dividing, fetuses, infants, and young children are the most sensitive to radiation's effects.)…
    “Radiation harms us by ionizing, that is, altering the electric charge of-the atoms and molecules composing our body cells….
    “Each reactor annually produces approximately five hundred pounds of plutonium. Dangerous for at least 500,000 years, this toxic substance poses a threat to public health that cannot be over emphasized….”
    http://www.robertschoch.net/nuclear%20energy%20radiation%20toxicology%20human%20chromosomes%20helen%20caldicott%20circular%20times.htm


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  • Year after Japan tragedy
    Lessons of health workers on frontline

    Doctors and other medical practitioners were among the 3,274 people killed in Ishinomaki, a city of some 162,000 residents before the disaster. (One of the fatalities was a Filipino woman married to a Japanese.) Missing were 706 people who were believed to have been carried off to sea by the retreating waters.
    As one of the facilities undamaged by the disaster, the Red Cross hospital also conducted relief operations.
    It extended its services to emergency shelters across the disaster zone in response to the JSDF appeal for relief teams to begin work on March 12 on a best-effort basis.
    But the Red Cross had no basic information on the availability of water and provisions, power and water supply, sanitary conditions and heating in the shelters.
    Neither did it have information on the injured and the sick, whether they were suffering from fever, external injuries, gastrointestinal illness or cough.

    Isolated

    “Administrative functions were paralyzed and could not be relied on to respond to inquiries,” Ishii said. In addition, communications were unreliable as the region was almost completely isolated.
    “Nevertheless, there was the large risk that inadequate response will lead to many additional fatalities.” …

    http://opinion.inquirer.net/24705/year-after-japan-tragedy


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  • Records show Japan gov't knew meltdown risk early
    Mar 9, 11:29 AM
    TOKYO – Just four hours after the tsunami swept into the Fukushima nuclear power plant, Japan's leaders knew the reactors could melt but kept their knowledge secret for months, showed reconstructed documents released Friday, almost a year after the disaster.
    At one point, then-Prime Minister Naoto Kan even feared the crisis could turn worse than Chernobyl.

    The minutes of the government's crisis management meetings from March 11 – the day the earthquake and tsunami struck – until late December were not recorded and had to be reconstructed retroactively.

    The documents illustrate the confusion, lack of information, delayed response and miscommunication among government, affected towns and plant officials, as some ministers expressed sense that nobody was in charge when the plant conditions quickly deteriorated.

    The minutes quoted an unidentified official explaining that cooling functions of the reactors were kept running only by batteries that would last only eight hours.

    "If temperatures in the reactor cores keep rising beyond eight hours, there is a possibility of meltdown," the official said during the first meeting that started about four hours after the magnitude 9.0 earthquake and tsunami hit the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant March 11, setting off the crisis.

    Apparently the government tried to play down the severity of the damage. A …

    http://www.maximumedge.com/cgi/news/article.cgi/20120309/D9TD2VV81


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  • Aftermath of Fukushima disaster lingers in Korea
    03-09-2012 21:30
    Korean consumers are still wary about products from Japan due to fears of nuclear contamination in the wake of the massive earthquake and tsunami, and resultant nuclear catastrophe there on March 11 last year.
    Interpark, one of the primary domestic online retailers, said Friday that sales of Japanese wet tissues over the past 10 days decreased more than 50 percent from a year before.
    By contrast, those of Korean firms jumped 43 percent, which shows that much of the demand for Japanese tissues shifted to Korean goods.
    The situation is similar for other items.
    According to the country’s top …

    http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2012/03/123_106634.html


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  • South: Fish imports from Japan turning up radioactive
    Friday, March 9, 2012
    Kyodo

    SEOUL — South Korea is finding radioactive materials in fishery products from Japan with increased frequency but has no immediate plans to ban imports as the radiation levels are far below safety limits, the Yonhap News Agency reported Thursday, citing an unidentified inspection agency official.

    "The frequency of radiation detection appears to be rising as two reactors at the Fukushima plant are currently leaking radiation," the official at the Animal, Plant, Fisheries Quarantine and Inspection Agency was quoted as saying.

    "But there has not yet been any case where Japanese fisheries products have been banned, as the level of cesium found in the products is …

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120309a2.html


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  • *Video* Lone farmer defies Japan's nuclear fallout
    22 hrs ago – AP

    Almost exactly one year after the nuclear accident at the Fukushima Daichi nuclear plant sent local inhabitants fleeing for their safety, little has changed in the deserted town of Tomioka that now has a population of one. (March 9)
    http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/lone-farmer-defies-japan-s-nuclear-fallout-28562532.html


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  • CaptD CaptD

    REMEMBER IT IS NOT JUST JAPAN ANY MORE!

    I believe that the Japanese have been holding their breath or almost a year now, waiting for the people Globally to start complaining first verbally then financially about not only their Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster but also the burning of radioactive waste which is spreading Globally!

    The global outrage has not been very bad (so far) so the Japanese are now only too happy to burn, dump and SPIN their way into the future!

    ……..
    I think future generations will look at what is happening in Japan as a perfect example of a Government using Science to condem its citizens to an unhealthy future in order to make money for those that control the Government!

    TEPCO is now engaged in a Health War not only against the Japanese People but all those living on Earth, downwind from Fukushima!


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  • lam335 lam335

    There's a new video featuring Gundersen. It's only available in French or German, but c. 38:00 it discusses the major media's downplaying of the story.

    http://fairewinds.com/content/die-wahrheit-hinter-dem-super-gau

    Even if you can't follow the French/German, you can sometimes make out what English speakers are saying before the translator's voiceover.


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  • WorseThanChernobyl

    Nuclear forensics taught at HAMMER near Richland
    By Annette Cary, Tri-City Herald

    Scientists and experts in nuclear detection gathered near Richland during the past two weeks to learn the latest methodologies in the fledgling field of nuclear forensics. That is the science of studying nuclear material to trace it to its source or gather other information in a criminal investigation.

    Read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2012/03/10/1859063/nuclear-forensics-taught-at-hammer.html#storylink=cpy


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  • CB CB

    Fallout Forcast One Year Anniversary Fukushima.(03-09-2012) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY8HlVFDvYg


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  • openeye openeye

    @xrdfox RE RO water

    Sorry, just now saw your question:

    I was in Tucson, AZ in March 2011 and they had RO water there as a regular policy/pre-Fukushima and after. Can't remember if it was "The Dollar Store" or "Dollar General." Am no longer near there.

    There are other towns in AZ where I've seen it in dollar stores. I have also talked with health food stores that said they could try to get it if there were enough demand. How about calling the dollar stores' HQ to ask where they carry it or could start to?.

    I have seen inexpensive RO filters for homes being sold online.

    Who knows how much radiation it removes? And there is radiation in our food products–not just CA produce but Midwest grain. And to think I used to get depressed when I went grocery shopping due to all the HFCS et al GMO, et al poisons–even flouride in baby water.

    I wish I had a geiger counter but I got scammed by a Hong Kong company I ordered one from and can't afford another.

    Who ever invented the word "soft" kill? There's nothing soft about it–just raw evil.


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  • MUST SEE !

    The Fallout: Cleaning up the mess of a nuclear meltdown

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/46662535#46662535


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  • The dangerous myths of Fukushima: Exposing the ‘no harm’ mantra
    March 10, 2012

    The myth that Fukushima radiation levels were too low to harm humans persists a year after the meltdown. A March 2, 2012, New York Times article quoted Vanderbilt University professor John Boice: “There’s no opportunity for conducting epidemiological studies that have any chance for success – the doses are just too low.” Wolfgang Weiss of the U.N. Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation also recently said doses observed in screening of Japanese people “are very …

    http://sfbayview.com/2012/the-dangerous-myths-of-fukushima-exposing-the-no-harm-mantra/


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  • Gulf World helps investigate unusual dolphin strandings
    March 10, 2012

    PANAMA CITY BEACH — Dolphins have been showing up dead in record numbers along the northern Gulf of Mexico, and experts are investigating why.

    The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration issued an Unusual Mortality Event (UME) because of the situation, which has claimed 580 dolphins in higher-than-expected strandings that began in February 2010. The UME was issued in December 2010.

    Secret Holmes-Douglas, director of marine mammals at Gulf World Marine Park, says her facility has taken part in the concentrated investigation, which calls for a higher number of biological samples that are then sent off for testing.

    Gulf World also has portable X-ray and ultrasound equipment that can …

    http://www.newsherald.com/news/world-101065-helps-investigate.html


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  • Media, Academia Join Forces to Downplay Dangers of Nuclear Power
    March 10th, 2012

    Last April 20 the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) published an on-line article entitled “Short-term and Long-term Health Risks of Nuclear-Power-Plant Accidents” by Dr. Eli Glatstein and five other authors. The article was riddled with distortions and misinformation, and overall was very poor research. As the NEJM is a peer reviewed journal and has a significant letters section, I wrote a letter pointing out some of the errors committed by the authors, and a longer piece containing a comprehensive critique.

    The NEJM demands that letters to the journal contain material that has not been submitted or published elsewhere, so I had to refrain from submitting my longer piece anywhere until the NEMJ made a decision on my letter. When my letter did not appear after a couple of weeks I inquired, and was told that the article would soon appear in the printed version of the Journal, and that no letters about the article could be published until after the …

    http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/03/media-academia-join-forces-to-downplay-dangers-of-nuclear-power/


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  • Japan prepares to mark the day tsunami struck

    One year on, reports reveal ministers knew of meltdown threat after tsunami struck

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    Tokyo: Japan was, on Saturday, preparing to mark the first anniversary of its tsunami, as government papers revealed ministers were warned of the possibility of meltdowns at Fukushima just after the waves struck.

    A summary of a government meeting held about four hours after a giant earthquake sent a wall of water crashing into the atomic power station showed that one unidentified participant had cautioned of the risk of a meltdown.

    “If the temperature of the reactor cores rises after eight hours, there is a possibility that a meltdown will occur,” the person said, according to the summary released on Friday.

    Fukushima Daiichi, 220 kilometres north-east of Tokyo, …

    http://gulfnews.com/news/world/other-world/japan-prepares-to-mark-the-day-tsunami-struck-1.992715


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