FORUM: General Discussion Thread (Nuclear Issues) for Mar. 12 – 25, 2012

Published: March 12th, 2012 at 12:00 am ET


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621 comments to FORUM: General Discussion Thread (Nuclear Issues) for Mar. 12 – 25, 2012

    • These are/have been used in the deterrent for incoming missile's also, is said there are lasers placed in many many nations and beyond in missile defense programs ! The can produce heat many times over that of the sun in a focused place/target !

  • Sue

    At least we now get a better idea of what's going on at Livermore, CA.

  • lam335 lam335

    "Can Fast Reactors Speedily Solve Plutonium Problems?
    The U.K. is grappling with how to get rid of weapon-grade plutonium and may employ a novel reactor design to consume it"

    … Such "mixed oxide" fuel has not proved popular in the broader nuclear reactor fleet, although France continues to pursue it, with the U.S. soon to follow….

    …"We're going to take plutonium oxide that's a powder, turn it into fuel form, put it in the reactor, make it more radioactive, and then put that into the ground," Loewen admits, which would also render it unfit for nuclear weapons. …

    …That additional level of transmutation might prove too costly…. Such fast reactors are more expensive than even traditional reactors, such as Westinghouse's new AP-1000 under construction in China and the U.S., which are estimated to cost roughly $7 billion apiece. Conventional light-water reactors can also "consume" plutonium, if need be….

    …Originally, such fast reactors were developed to solve a problem that never panned out: scarcity in the global supply of uranium. The idea was to create fuel within the reactors themselves once fission began, in effect making more than they consumed. … "Like all minerals, improvements in the efficiency of extraction and the ability to dig for deeper ores outpaces the depletion of the resource over 100 years or more," Cochran notes. "Economically, fast reactors are not competitive and they're never going to be competitive."

    "We're not going to run out of uranium," Loewen admits. "Here's a solution for this stuff that's piled up."…

    Ultimately, however, the core problem may be that such new reactors don't eliminate the nuclear waste that has piled up so much as transmute it. nations would nonetheless require an ultimate home for radioactive waste, one reason that a 2010 M.I.T. report on spent nuclear fuel dismissed such fast reactors…

  • Lacsap Lacsap

    Half life = 50% of the isotope decay's into another isotope and 50% remain as they are (after another half life 50% of the 50% remain and 50% of 50% has decayed into another isotope and so on). All isotopes decay to another isotope until a stable form has reached (lead).

  • ruth

    After 50 years radiation found to be culprit in tobacco related cancer.

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      OMG! "But what if the tobacco itself were not actually the primary cause of the cancer, but something else contaminating it? And what if it the tobacco industry knew this lethal contaminant was in their product, and even knew how to remove it, but did and said nothing for over 30 years in order to conceal this deadly secret from the public?
      Thanks ruth! MIND BLOWER!

      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Thanks again Ruth. I'm getting this NEWS OUT PRONTO…and i'm just blown away AGAIN at what this fucking industry is GUILTY OF!!
        "Oh The Horror!!" M. Brando.


      @ruth: great article! Thanks for posting this link. I recall reading about Polonium 210 contamination in tobacco years ago. This has some excellent follow-up research…

      • Whoopie Whoopie

        AferS I never heard this before. But damn straight, just another BULLET IN THE HEART OF NUCLEAR! I'm spreading it far and wide!!
        (smoker here…but now I can blame the NRC ALONG with Tobacco Co's)
        LAWSUITS ON BOTH!! 🙁


          @Whoopie: as Lacsap is pointing out, this is a naturally occurring radionuclide that can be found throughout the plant world; at least, that's what I got.

          What's significant is tobacco companies refuse to utilize processes that will reduce their product's toxicity. So, we can't condemn a naturally occurring substance but can condemn those who'd allow its proliferation within products that are consumed by the public. They're simply inhuman and invite harsh karma into their lives, for doing so…

          • Lacsap Lacsap

            Yes and no Aftershock,

            From the article "Polonium 210 is a byproduct of the decay of uranium daughter isotopes, which, while occurring naturally in the environment,

            are primarily found within our soil as a result of pollution from various industries.

            Uranium mining is one source, as are the nuclear and coal-fired power industries."

            210Po is an alpha emitter that has a half-life of 138.4 days; it decays directly to its stable daughter isotope, 206Pb

            206Pb = lead
            The three isotopes lead-206, lead-207, and lead-208 represent the ends of three decay chains called the uranium series (or radium series)

            So after 138 days the 210Po remaining is 50% of total the other 50% is decayed in stable non radioactive lead (206Pb)

            Putting your cigarets away for 276 days then the 210pu would be only 25% of total (75% lead).

    • Lacsap Lacsap

      What they are saying in the article linked by ruth is that the earth is polluted by radioactivity which tobacco plants absorb but same thing counts for animals we eat, water we drink etc. I always said cancer is from pollution mainly radioactive.

    • thanks Ruth,
      I posted these toughts a few times over the past year, large leaf plants catch radionuclide and during the above ground testing or that up through roots, I knew there was a link just as many people succumbing ill from in foods and breathing during cold war testing also !

      • Bobby1

        Tobacco leaves absorb the cesium and strontium that falls in the rain. The Philip Morris website says they cure the leaves for 2 years. I'm not sure about the other tobacco companies.

        So next year cigarette smokers will be smoking strontium-90.

        • I notice you never see "Cigarettes are radioactive" printed on cigarette packages – this would embarass the nuclear industry. They only say "cigarettes are bad for you" without specifying why. (It should read "Low-level radiation is bad for you.")

          The longest living people in the world were all smokers:

          Might also be an idea to run some geiger counters over the fertilizer used in our gardens.

          For over 40 years, researchers and tobacco corporations have known that cigarettes contain radionuclides(1). The contamination is sourced in naturally occurring radioactive radon gas(2) which is absorbed and trapped in apatite rock(3). Apatite, or phosphate rock, is mined for the purpose of formulating the phosphate portion of most chemical fertilizers(4). Polonium releases ionizing alpha radiation which is 20 times more harmful than either beta or gamma radiation when exposed to internal organs(5).

          Lung cancer rates increased significantly during most of the 1900's(6). It's no coincidence that between 1938 and 1960, the level of polonium 210 in American tobacco tripled commensurate with the increased use of chemical fertilizers and Persistant Organic Pollutant (POP) accumulation(7).

    • mungo mungo

      just as i suspected

  • aigeezer aigeezer

    EnergySolutions has a new contract to clean up radiation at Los Alamos.

    You may remember EnergySolutions has previously announced it has the cleanup contract for Fukushima.

    You may also remember they are the company burning radioactive waste from around the world in Tennessee.

    It seems their business is prospering.

  • Lethal in Japan – the real story on radiation
    Thursday, March 24, 2011 by: Mark Sircus., AC, OMD

    …At the power plant site itself, with almost all the reactors and spent fuel ponds in various stages of meltdown we have a super lethal situation that can only get worse. Representative Michael Burgess, Republican of Texas, asked for detail about the radiation levels at the Japanese nuclear plant. "Are we talking about radiation equivalent to a chest X-ray? A CAT scan?" he asked. Gregory B. Jaczko, the chairman of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission replied, "Levels that would be lethal with a fairly short period of time." …

    specail Thx to Jon_NY who found this !

  • Health uncertainties torment Japanese in nuke zone

    FUKUSHIMA, Japan — Yoshiko Ota keeps her windows shut. She never hangs her laundry outdoors. Fearful of birth defects, she warns her daughters: Never have children. This is life with radiation, nearly one year after a …

  • Disaster focused attention on nuclear safety

    Radioactive rain
    In addition to learning more about our nuclear generation plants, the March 11, 2011, Fukushima disaster taught Americans sometimes that rain falls with some radioactive isotopes.
    Tests conducted on rainwater collected in puddles at the Beaver Valley Nuclear Power Station on March 26 detected 14.8 picocuries per liter of radioiodine-131, a byproduct of nuclear fission that has been linked to thyroid cancer. The level was well below the federal Environmental Protection Agency's safety limit of 20,000 picocuries per liter for rainwater.
    Pennsylvania first reported levels of radiation in rainwater on March 25 with readings of 41 picocuries per liter in Harrisburg and 90 to 100 picocuries per liter at the Three Mile Island and Limerick nuclear plants.
    According to the EPA's RadNet radiation- …

  • Tritium leak: Post-quake radiation plume stokes concern

    When the 5.8 magnitude earthquake struck Louisa County last August, with its epicenter just 11 miles from the North Anna nuclear generating plant, environmental groups warned that radioactive leaks were likely. It turns out that they were right.
    Dominion Virginia Power has revealed that an elevated level of a radioactive substance called tritium has been found in groundwater near the plant, and the discovery has nuclear watchdogs scoffing at the company's efforts to downplay potential danger to the public.
    "Tritium is highly mobile," says Paul Gunter of Beyond Nuclear, a Maryland-based nonprofit which has long expressed concern about the integrity of miles of underground pipes carrying radioactive water at North Anna.
    "I don't think that 100 aftershocks have …

  • Fukushima becoming synonymous with failure and the unknown

    The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant was turned upside down after the traumatic events last March, communication between the on-site emergency control center and each control room was limited to a single wired telephone line. The off-site nuclear emergency response headquarters had to be evacuated because it was so under-prepared. Of the 3 fire engines TEPCO staged at the Plant, one had already been used for injecting seawater and second one was unable to use because of the tsunami. The remaining one, mobilized at the Unit 5 – 6 area of the site, was unable to be moved because the earthquake damaged the road and the tsunami scattered debris over the already treacherous terrain.

    With no electricity to power the cooling systems, water inside the reactors began to boil off, causing meltdowns of the uranium fuel rods inside …

  • Hell on Earth

    …The question they are asking is how many more will die over the next few decades due to radiation poisoning from the three Fukushima reactors, which went into meltdown after they were crippled by the surge of sea water caused by a huge earthquake.

    Leading the battle to prevent further life-threatening leaks are the Genpatsu Jipusii.

    Many of those who are risking their lives working on the highly radioactive site are contractors hired on as little as £80 a day to do the most dangerous of …

  • Bobby1

    Japanese blog post:

    – nuclear fuel of Unit 2 subducted to 800 meters below ground also asked if the person who has knowledge can predict the physical and chemical processes of melt-through, the nuclear fuel of Unit 2, has reached to 800 meters below ground already otherwise would not be surprised.

    – contact with the water flowing beneath the surface of the earth is what happened has been touted as the initial accident, and "that occurs when a steam explosion large if in contact with the water flowing beneath the surface of the earth will fuel the melt-through", actually What was it? Because what happens in the high-pressure deep underground earth, image explosion on the ground is not very useful. In fact, the pressure becomes large explosive force that pushes the water flowing beneath the surface of the earth, as if it is reflux the water flowing beneath the surface of the earth. Come to think of it, even in the live camera, has been seen many times the scene last year of primary site of water vapor from the Fukushima Daiichi soar.

    – fuel of Unit 4 is up to 500 meters underground sedimentation March 18 (Japanese)

  • Bobby1

    Japanese tsunami debris may be causing mild temperatures, meteorologist says

    … Margusity was a good sport about AccuWeather's swing and miss, even offering up a retroactive long-shot theory for the warm winter and recent heat wave — the drifting debris field from last year's devastating Japanese tsunami seems to be sending warm air aloft above the Pacific Ocean, which could be contributing to warmer temperatures here, Margusity said.

    "If you match up where that debris field is right now with where the warmer-than-normal water temperatures are, they match up perfectly," he said, also citing what proved to be a weakening La Nina pattern last fall and the lack of expected so-called Greenland blocking.,0,7853869.story

  • Bobby1

    Radioactive decay heat, anyone?

    The most incredible spring heat wave in U.S. and Canadian recorded history is finally drawing to a close today, after a ten-day stretch of unprecedented record-smashing intensity. Since record keeping began in the late 1800s, there have never been so many spring temperature records broken, and by such a large margin. Airports in fifteen different states have set all-time records for March warmth, which is truly extraordinary considering that the records were set in the middle of the month, instead of the end of the month. The 29.2°C (85°F) measured at Western Head, Nova Scotia yesterday was the third warmest temperature ever recorded in Canada in March, according to Environement Canada and weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera (top two records: 31.1°C at Alberini Beaver Creek BC on March 29th 1926, and 29.4°C in 1921 at Wallaceburg.) Michigan's all-time record for March warmth was toppled on Wednesday, when the mercury hit 90°F at Lapeer. The previous record, 89° at Lapeer in 1910, was matched at three stations yesterday–Ypsilanti, Dearborn, and Lapeer. The duration, areal size, and intensity of the Summer in March, 2012 heat wave are simply off-scale, and the event ranks as one of North America's most extraordinary weather events in recorded history. Such a historic event is difficult to summarize, and in today's post I will offer just a few of the most notable highlights.

  • U.S. Still Getting Radiation from Fukushima

    Think the airborne radiation from Fukushima has passed? While old men diddle with women’s rights to their own bodies, mergers that make them fabulously wealthy, “voter fraud,” and oil speculation, the most devastating truths are being hidden from the public. For profit, of course. None of this will matter when they and their loved ones begin to be stricken with the devastation they’ve wrought on our planet.

    I live on the West Coast of the U.S., and frankly, I’ve been terrified since March 12, 2011. The hideous realities of nuclear energy and nuclear weapons aren’t hidden under some mountain in Iran. They are scattered over the planet in defective nuclear power plants, in the irresponsible generation and impossible storage of the by-product, in the continuing drift of radiation from Fukushima, and in tens of thousands of nuclear weapons owned by the U.S., Russia, and Israel. Our future is one filled with millions and millions of victims of cancer, deformities, and birth-defects world-wide for countless years. Those of us exposed will begin to see these effects in five to seven years, according to …

    • CB CB

      Hello Mr. xdrfox! Yeah "The United States has been heavily contaminated through rainfall. Studies done at UC Berkeley (Cal) showed that the radiation was carried into the tap water at the university and into California organic milk, strawberries and leafy vegetables, in addition to other products."
      I think the mutated strawberries are a sure sign of the impact. I was at the store tonight and making my way through the produce isle. I stopped at the strawberries to observe them. I found some to be very large and obviously mutated. I'm in VA.
      Many twicpics on twitter of unsuspecting consumers noting their unusual observations.
      New one~ /
      Fallout map here~
      I've always had a hard time wrapping my head around Revelation 13:1
      Not so much now.

      Next time your in a store, look in the produce section and relay your observations.

      • CB CB

        If you have the capacity I recommend building a green house and planting your own vegetables. Obviously securing non radioactive soil.

        • CB,
          Gathered thing together this week, several kinds of tomatoes I planted today and some in topsitury planters six inch readies, others seeding in kitchen window ! Full veggie soil and watered with liquid fertilizer !

          Be yummy soon !

          : )

        • I have a concrete 8×8 slab where I had a shed a tornado needed during a hurricane in 04 … but it is not in the sunlight !

      • CB,
        Ah yes,.. I was the first to bring UC Berkeley link to these forums ! : )
        CA. is leading strawberry producer and Florida second, and yes, ample supply this year, ugly and half the price !
        "The sea" represents masses of people, in most spiritual translations, … Nations and century's, and kingdoms … all basfleaming the lord, … non of them are for Gods rule but their own ! Battle of Armageddon mention once, … man against God !

        Want to travel the B R P this summer from Ga. to Pa. Looking forward to overlook Shenandoah Valley again !

        • CB CB

          The new elephant in the room is the crazy weather. Many thousands of records already this month have been broken. I forgot who brought to my attention the xenon clouds. I think it was Heart of Rose. Anyways thoughts of the radioactive xenon clouds and the unknown drop in the radiation measurements before radioactive fallout has gotten my attention.
          In an analogy the way I understand it, I suppose the two super charged masses oppose each other, dropping, or neutralizing
          the changes in between the two masses.
          I have questions on how the radioactive isotopes or radionuclide affects the water vapor while it is suspended in the air. Are thunderstorm clouds more supercharged? Are we in for a hell of a spring? What about Hurricane season?

          • A report on said a related high causing warm temperatures over the Pacific coming across N. America is from the debris in the Pacific from the Japan Tsunami reflecting heat into the atmosphere ?

            Still scratching my head over that one !

            : |

            • It was not Jeff Rense's comment !

            • CB CB

              I think the debris may have some radioactivity in it because of the continuous fallout dropped on it during transit. Im more worried about the accumulated radioactivity in the currents of the Pacific. By now it must have reached the western shore. (Radioactive currents)
              Buckeye balls took the stage for a moment, and since lost in the headlines of today. I think a revisit to the pollution to the Pacific, and radioactive fallout is required to help understand upcoming events. Including whatever known weather phenomena associated with radioactive fallout and its effects on weathers.

              • CB CB

                Also, what contributions to the increase of severe weather might have come from the 3 degrees shift in the earths axis from the Japan EQ/tsnumai.

                  • CB CB

                    Okay, so I will look for a relationship between the magnetic pole shift and earths axis. 🙂 I'll be back.

                    • NoNukes NoNukes

                      Thanks for this xdrfox and CB. I would really like to now why winter disappeared, and what might happen to the other seasons.

                    • I don't know from axis shift, but magnetic shift has been underway for awhile. There are parts of southern Africa (and south Asia, I think) where the poles are already completely reversed.

                      We checked an iPhone compass app the other day and either it's whack or something has happened recently to utterly reverse the trend we observed over the past 19 years. Our cabin is cardinally oriented, back wall due north. Magnetic north has been a tad to the left (west) of that and moving a noticeable bit every few years, siting on a sturdy, limbless standing dead poplar crudely carved into a totem pole, due true north (it's not doing any roaming around). The iPhone (a GPS sub-app) is now pointing about 5º in the OTHER direction… toward the east now, and that's darned odd. Gotta dig out the trusty old compass to check its accuracy, because I don't trust the iPhone…

                    • NoNukes NoNukes

                      "know," not "now," sigh.

                    • CB CB

                      Aerosols ~ Long-term aerosol pollution affects cloud formation and rainfall, exacerbating extreme weather conditions, suggests a new study.
                      A University of Maryland-led team of researchers says that soot, dust and other small particles, known as aerosols, can strongly affect cloud development."Increases in manufacturing, building of power plants and other industrial developments are often accompanied with increases in pollution whose adverse impacts on weather and climate, as revealed in this study, can undercut economic gains."
                      Good Power Point for those who like pictures.
                      More on aerosol polutants

                      Dr. John Nielsen-Gammon
                      Regents Professor and Texas State Climatologist

                    • CB CB

                      Axis Shift ~ Pole Shift
                      A shift in Earths Axis can cause Global Weather Changes



                      The angle between the direction of magnetic north and the true North Pole at any location is called ariation or deviation. The variation of a compass is different at different places on the earth. The variation also changes slightly at different times of the year and in different years.
                      Good 2008 audio(video)
                      Axis shift video Goes east~

                    • Thanks, CB. I'll check it out tonight, just taking a break now from planting strawberries (and transplanting strawberries… those things wander MUCH more than north does!). Seeing the dogwoods bloom before the end of March is literally unheard-of. But they're sure enough blooming. Along with everything else that blooms (sans blackberries). Worse, my grapes are leafing out from bud and that's not supposed to happen until the last week of April at the earliest. Hoping I don't lose the whole crop this year, but the bees and butterflies are out thick too, so I'm hopeful it won't hard freeze again.

                      Has me worried because I've seen hard freezes in mid-April. You can fool a dogwood (but not often), grapes are a whole other beastie. Cherries and peaches done blooming, pears and apples in full dress dread right now. They'll be okay – it won't freeze this week, at any rate. But it WILL get cold again when the blackberries bloom – blackberry winter, ALWAYS happens. Usually early to mid-May. The flora is definitely confused.

                      Went to the greenhouse shindig today with grandson, they had peppers and tomatoes two feet tall and people were filling their carts. Collards, mustards, brassicas and kale were ignored, it's already too warm for them (and I haven't planted mine out yet… getting old… but my seedlings look healthier than theirs). I told everyone it isn't blackberry winter yet, avoid the hot-crops like the plague (at $4 a pot they're a waste). Bought a $15 flat of strawberries instead, everybody put the 'maters back and got strawberries too…

                      By the way, we had our growing zone changed by USDA last fall, out of the blue. THAT means global warming no matter how you slice it. We're all just learning what that means.

                    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

                      Hi CB (hopefully it's really you), if you need a good read while wondering about strange weather, google the excellent study "The Age of Consequences". That's where we are.

                    • CB CB

                      Thanks B&B!
                      Two Myths About Climate Change
                      MyTh 1: Future climate change will be smooth and gradual. The history of climate reveals that climate change occurs in fits and starts, with abrupt and sometimes dramatic changes rather than gradually over time.
                      MyTh 2 : Impacts will be moderate in industrialized nations.the United States already experiences a wide range of severe climate-related impacts.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Video of Fukushima Plant..
    Repost…we know so many more things now…sometimes it's important to look back..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    This is a repost as well..radiation rates.. reactor 2

  • mungo mungo

    KORIYAMA, Fukushima Pref. — A group of elementary school students in Koriyama, about 60 km from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 plant, may only be 10 years old, but they possibly know more about radiation than fourth-graders anywhere in the world.

    Teacher Tomoyuki Bannai watches over the students.

    After a year of study at Akagi Elementary School in Fukushima Prefecture, the 28 students in Tomoyuki Bannai's class can now explain the difference between alpha, beta and gamma rays. They know alpha rays are dangerous in terms of internal exposure to radiation and that gamma rays pose the biggest threat for external exposure.

    "I believe my class of fourth-graders is probably the best in the world in terms of radiation education," Bannai, 43, told The Japan Times in late February.

    yeah, start training up the kids, for they are the next generation who will have to carry on the decontamination, and teach THEIR kids about it so they can carry on with the decontamination, ad infinitum. ad nauseum

  • Bobby1

    Neutron radiation detected in Fukushima prefecture, Tochigi prefecture, and Tokyo

    Neutron radiation is the worst kind, it makes the cells of the body radioactive.

    "You think the situation plutonium neutron and alpha radiation is detected from the only uranium at zero, since in the dispersal of radioactive materials by nuclear accident is unlikely, that there is plutonium contamination in this region, no doubt. , And that this area has been contaminated with plutonium alpha nuclide, it is reasonable degree of pollution, was also corroborated from neutron detection.

      In addition, the explosion of Unit 3 that has been accompanied by a nuclear explosion by the prompt criticality of spent fuel pool, the spent nuclear fuel from that it contains much more than the plutonium uranium, is actually contaminated with uranium than plutonium you think is much more expensive and the potential.

      Someone I know has been measured in the same model of Tokyo. In Tokyo, but with that many regions of 1cps, is that there is a place of 8cps highest neutron is detected. Topically, you can see that there is a higher concentration than in contaminated areas north of Fukushima Prefecture, Tochigi Prefecture, and medium quality.

    Although I think this is there is many theories, most powerful thing is the following theory at the moment.

      In Tokyo Bay due to earthquake tsunami that struck the East on March 11 last year, oil companies in Chiba industrial complex was a fire. There is a plant of nitrogen to the adjacent land, depleted uranium were stored about 780 km as a catalyst. The spread of fire oil company, this depleted uranium was almost burned away."… (Japanese)

  • Mack Mack

    Front-page Story at Truth-out! "400 Chernobyls: Solar Flares, Electromagnetic Pulses and Nuclear Armageddon"

    • Bobby1

      Chernobyl AIDS

      Virtually every doctor in Ukraine and Belarus has noticed a strange thing happening in public health. Simply put, people are getting sick more often, and their sicknesses are worse than they used to be. Allergies are more common and more serious. Pregnant women suffer more complications and earlier in the pregnancy, and more women die during childbirth. Pulmonary problems, from asthma to cancer, have increased tremendously. Simple illnesses such as colds and flu are worse and last longer. Surgical operations are riskier and more difficult because the body has trouble recovering from surgical wounds and minor infections. People report vague dizziness and temporary blackouts and loss of consciousness.

      The problem is affecting children most of all. Only 35 percent of school children in Kiev are free of health problems. Twenty-five percent of children evacuated from Pripyat have weakened heart muscles. Such common childhood diseases as measles and chicken pox take much longer to cure. Nose bleeds are far more common than in the past. Minor wounds take longer to heal. Stomach aches are almost constant. Children come home from school so fatigued they can hardly walk.

      A most disturbing fact is that people's bodies do not respond to medication as they should. A medicine meant to bring down blood pressure, for example, might touch off a fever. Medication meant to reduce anemia might increase it. Complex diseases such as leukemia are extremely difficult to treat.

      One doctor at a pediatric hospital expressed the problem well. He said that every case of illness, and its treatment, is unique. Measles in one child is different from that in another. The information in textbooks is not valid. The treatments developed after years of experiments with laboratory animals are no longer valid. Doctors must practice what they call "catastrophe medicine," offering untried treatments and waiting to see how the patient responds. In effect, the patient is an…

      • Bobby1

        In effect, the patient is an experimental animal, though without the benefits that such animals normally receive: a sterile environment, a balanced diet, and uncontaminated food, water and air.

        The doctors are calling the problem "Chernobyl AIDS." It is, literally, an acute immune deficiency syndrome, though it is not related to HIV and is not contagious. Though doctors are scientifically hesitant to blame radiation for every case of cancer and genetic abnormality, they are virtually unanimous in concluding that radiation is the cause of the syndrome.

        • Immune suppression is a cardinal symptom of chronic low-level (well, relatively low-level) exposure to radiation. Increased white blood cell counts as well, as if there's some kind of systemic inflammation going on. Weak red cells and longer clotting times, like an anemia. This syndrome shows up well before any of the significant blood changes that would show up after large acute doses (that might lead to leukemias). It's been 26 years since Chernobyl, so this type of thing shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.

          • Bobby1

            Yeah, I've got Chernobyl AIDS too, but this was courtesy of the Castle Bravo nuclear test. I could go on for hours about the multiplicity of symptoms. It always gets worse every year, even before Fuku. Now, of course, it's on steroids.

            • So sorry to hear that, Bobby. We've all got "stressed systems" these days, you more than most. About broke my leg earlier this week, still sore and barely crawling around the strawberry bed. I didn't compost the leaves this year due to radioactivity, planted very late last year (and fallowed most of the garden), hoping my stupendous weed crops would suck up the cesium. Didn't compost those either. Have good drainage (terraced down a mountain), have run my Geiger over the beds and they're not reading over background except along the fenceline drainage. Mint grows there (like the weeds they are), one of these days I'll plant horseradish to finish cleaning out the cesium plus any heavy metals that accumulate.

              Luckily in a very sheltered cove on the eastern Blue Ridge/southern Blacks, so we escaped the worst of it – which hit Charlotte and Raleigh hard. Of course, they've got their own dumping nukes, so who knows how much of it came from the FukuPlume. It's the crazy climate anomaly this year that has everything seriously confused. Forest medicinals are coming up okay, will be making a strong Everclear and ginseng tincture from my old man-roots. Best thing for supercharging your DNA repair system during periods of acute or chronic dose. Of course, that stuff will supercharge EVERYTHING, dropper dose instead of shots like we do with elderberry/vodka tincture… serious anti-viral. Japanese honeysuckle is blooming, that'll be in the tonic winter tea as an anti-viral.

              Wish you the best. Sounds like you need a good blood tonic. Let me know, I've some usefuls, depending on what pharmaceuticals you're taking (have to factor those).

              • Bobby1

                JoyB, sorry to hear about your leg. I hardly ever talk about this stuff in real life, so maybe I'm venting. Though I have asked around in medical school staffs just what the F is wrong with me, but they don't know. I used to live on ginseng, not any more, I have weird reactions to all sorts of "medicinal" products, like the Chernobyl AIDS blurb said. Though natural ones are not near as bad as pharmaceuticals. I broke down and took a painkiller yesterday, now I can expect an attack of ulcerative colitis. Oh well, not as bad as the sensation of a knife in your back. This is what the next generation is going to be like, inscrutable symptoms, unhelpful doctors etc. Sorry kids, the ones before you ruined the planet.

                You live in probably one of the least contaminated areas in the US. The hot rain from the west gets rained out by the mountains, and the cool rain from the Atlantic dumps on you. South Florida is good too, but they have oil and corexit issues.

                • StillJill StillJill

                  "I broke down and took a painkiller yesterday"

                • Do you have any kind of ill reactions to dandelion leaf/root? Ask because the root is one of the better systemic tonics out there (I grind roots and add to the coffee). There are other things more specific to blood, lymph and marrow, but dandelion's like taking a big multivitamin, chock full of vitamins and minerals. Including the odd ones and trace elements most people are deficient in. I grow a whole patch of dandelion for greens, flowers (lovely wine) and roots.

                  High in calcium and potassium. These are specifics for accumulated radiation dose, especially internal. The cesiums act in your body as potassium, strontium as calcium. The 'natural' abundance of potassium does contain a small percentage of K40 (radioactive), but since core elements tend to cycle through (biological half-life), your proportion should never change. You DON'T want cesium taking its place, and your body can't tell the difference.

                  Just a thought. Eat dark green leafies is another. Very high in vitamins A, C and K. Also high in iron, also blood-related. Last year wasn't good for leafies. This year is better, drainage and previous crop uptake have done their magic. Sometimes you can find good ground roots and/or greens at organic stores. I don't know of any way it could hurt you if you're not specifically sensitive or allergic. Just as part of your daily routine.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Like "whitewashing," greenwashing refers to covering up unpleasant facts with a pleasant facade — in this case an eco-friendly, or green facade. And we've found some outrageous examples:

    The conglomerate that brought you the KeystoneXL pipeline comparing their product to peanut butter;
    An SUV marketed as having been "truffula certified" because the car-maker bankrolled the new Lorax movie;
    And a TV ad scheme where anyone from coal companies to car manufacturers can buy a "green" logo for their ads. No matter how much pollution they cause.
    The hubris of these Industries just blows my mind….

  • Bobby1

    Fukushima Crisis is NOT over – Level 7 News.

    The radiation is not going away and still coming out of Fukushima.
    There is no closure in sight even with the emotional 1st year
    anniversary. The Japanese and people of the northern hemisphere are being irradiated daily.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Hydroacoustic data from the Tohoku Earthquake by Dr. Mark Prior, Seismic-Acoustic Officer, Scientific Methods Unit, Software Applications Section, International Data Centre Division

  • vital1 vital1

    This is how governments have deceived the public about food safety radiation levels worldwide.

    They first release an article like this one. I am using the EU as an example here.

    Extract from article link below:

    “EU boosts food import controls after Japanese nuclear disaster. The European Union is to step up controls on food imports from Japan in the wake of the nuclear accident at Fukushima – but stressed there was no evidence that consumers in the region were at risk from radiation-contaminated food.

    The EU ruling insists that all products from these prefectures are tested before leaving Japan and said they will be subject to random testing in the bloc. Japanese authorities will have to provide a declaration confirming products do not contain radioactive elements – called radionuclides – that exceed EU maximum levels. The Commission highlighted radionuclides iodine-131, caesium-134 and caesium-137."

    This makes you feel warm and cosy inside, because you think your government is looking after you and your family.

    This article "EU boosts food import controls after Japanese nuclear disaster" is a clever deception because they then proceed to quietly raise the EU maximum safety levels by 20x for caesium-134 and caesium-137. Governments worldwide have used this same tactic.

    They then tell the public everything is testing below safety levels, nothing to worry about!

  • CB CB

    Minamisoma want a large amount of rubble. However, the government will not listen.

    • Bobby1

      Black dust radiation level up to a staggering 130 uSv/hr.

      • NoNukes NoNukes

        Staggering. How can life survive this much longer? The reference to deities is interesting, I guess because of the destructive power of the material?

        Bobby1, your post about Chernobyl AIDS was staggering, too. I'm so sorry that you were impacted by Castle Bravo. I realize now that I was impacted by the nuclear plant near my childhood home. I have back pain this week, too. It is like Fukushima is introducing me to my organs one by one, first by the pain of the thyroid, now that of the kidneys…

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    400 Chernobyls: Solar Flares, Electromagnetic Pulses and Nuclear Armageddon
    Very interesting article covering the dangers of the "Carrington Effect", which enenewser stock@hawaii has already often referred to.

    *Most probably a re-post, sorry. Was away for 3 days and didn't quite catch up yet.

    • Mack Mack

      Hi B+B – I was hoping admin would make it a headline story.

      It's powerful and has good scientific research behind it.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Baffling Illness Strikes Africa, Turns Children Into Mindless “Zombies” They dont know what is causing it and have fear of it spreading ACROSS THE GLOBE. 🙁

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi Whoopie, that's horrible news – I hadn't heard about that illness before… Wiki says:
      "The spread and manifestation of outbreaks may further be exacerbated due to the poor health care of the region."

      And the world watches…again. 🙁

    • mungo mungo

      it could be from whatever dodgy chemicals are produced/processed in the area?

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Has anybody checked recently? I just saw that levels are on the rise again all over the place. Also in Saga, which is 680 miles from Fuku and the monitoring post is at 11 m height…the reading is ten times higher than back in December 🙁

    • aigeezer aigeezer

      Thanks B&B. It looks scary, but I don't know the implications. Do you know why it is so "spiky"?

  • CB CB

    7.2 chile Tsunami Information (Pacific): NO destructive widespread tsunami threat exists based on historical data. however ear…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Here is a mention of San Onofre and Diablo the NRC FOIA docs.
    Pg. 227..

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    WOW! Just wow! James Cameron's Big Dive via @huffingtonpost Director Reaches Deepest Spot On Earth

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    ..maybe if he soaks his head long and deep enough….

  • CB CB

    Fukushima Japan Nuclear update 3/21/12 (Video) Sorry if already posted.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Japan left with one nuclear reactor after shutdown
    Japan has shut down another nuclear power station, bringing it a step closer to suspending atomic energy, following the Fukushima disaster.
    26 March 2012

  • *video* Tokyo Soil Samples Would Be Considered Nuclear Waste In The US

    While traveling in Japan several weeks ago, Fairewinds’ Arnie Gundersen took soil samples in Tokyo public parks, playgrounds, and rooftop gardens. All the samples would be considered nuclear waste if found here in the US. This level of contamination is currently being discovered throughout Japan. At the US NRC Regulatory Information Conference in Washington, DC March 13 to March 15, the NRC's Chairman, Dr. Gregory Jaczko emphasized his concern that the NRC and the nuclear industry presently do not consider the costs of mass evacuations and radioactive contamination in their cost benefit analysis used to license nuclear power plants …

    admin, may be a headliner !!

  • Fukushima Radiation in California ? plant morphology California June of 2011 to February 2012.
    To Alternative on Monday, March 26, 2012

    You don't want to miss this slidshow !

  • mungo mungo

    twats…HMS Vengeance: £350m sub refit 'to secure 2,000 jobs'
    The 150m-long HMS Vengeance is the newest of the four Trident missile submarines.
    A £350m contract to refit and refuel a Royal Navy nuclear missile submarine will safeguard up to 2,000 UK jobs, the defence secretary is to announce.

  • mungo mungo

    A £350m contract to refit and refuel a Royal Navy nuclear missile submarine will safeguard up to 2,000 UK jobs, the defence secretary is to announce.

  • mungo mungo

    A £350m contract to refit and refuel a Royal Navy nuclear missile submarine will safeguard up to 2,000 UK jobs, the defence secretary is to announce.

  • mungo mungo

    why are these comments not showing up in the recent comments list?

  • mungo mungo

    is it because i mentioned the BBC? or because i mentioned nuclear subs? or because i said twat and idiot? Admin?

  • New Complaint Filed about Nuclear Waste Site

    The Energy Department is investigating another complaint claiming a contractor at the nation's most contaminated nuclear site interfered with an investigation … continue