FORUM: General Discussion Thread (Nuclear Issues) for Mar. 26 – Apr. 1, 2012

Published: March 26th, 2012 at 12:00 am ET


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234 comments to FORUM: General Discussion Thread (Nuclear Issues) for Mar. 26 – Apr. 1, 2012

  • Choto

    And see these articles on California radiation exposure courtesy of EneNews:

    Anaheim, CA has highest amount of radioactive fallout of any EPA air monitoring station in Continental U.S. for iodine-131
    Over EPA limit: Cesium levels in San Francisco area milk now higher than 6 months ago
    USGS: Los Angeles area had highest cesium deposition in US after Fukushima
    “Tends to concentrate in the testicles”: 360+ atoms of radioactive sulfur per day may have been inhaled by Californians after Fukushima
    Unprecedented Spike: 1501 atoms of radioactive sulfur per meter³ was detected in California air
    Radioactive sulfur in California spiked to highest levels ever detected: University researchers
    Controversy after US gov’t estimate showed 40,000 microsievert thyroid dose for California infants from Fukushima — Data not released to public — “Very high doses to children”
    Spike in radiation levels for West Coast? “Abnormal” readings on 8 of 18 EPA monitors for California, Oregon, Washington — Devices now “undergoing quality review”
    Nuclear policy expert: “Striking” that radioactive iodine-131 in California rainwater is so far above level permitted in drinking water
    Uranium-234 detected in Hawaii, Southern California, and Seattle

    • CaptD CaptD

      Here is a great graphic that will help everyone visualize what is downwind!
      NRDC Nuclear Fallout Map
      Just click on a reactor and zoom in…

      I wonder if any of these Leaders asked on or off the record, what happened to all the highly radioactive materials that are now missing from Fukushima and what they are doing to recover them ASAP. If it is true that that TEPCO is using GANG supplied labor then it must be worrisome that all this highly radioactive material may have been stolen and or sold to terrorist organizations because of it's dirty weapon potential for BIG money! I hope some future terrorist dirty explosion does not contain Fukushima radioactive debris, as it will give "Made in Japan" a new meaning!
      Key issues **not mentioned** in MSM coverage:
      1. Nuclear security is NOT getting FALLOUT from Fukushima…
      2. Where has all the highly radioactive material "gone" that was in Fukushima.
      3. Leaders DO NOT think Nature can destroy any land based nuclear reactor,
      …. any place anytime 24/7/365!
      4. Nuclear should be REDUCED not increased Worldwide.
      5. The **NEGATIVE** Health effects of Low levels of radiation.

  • Choto

    "NUCLEAR TERRORISM": Obama’s Nuclear Disarmament Hoax

  • Choto

    Lo que no le han contado sobre la influencia de la contaminación radiactiva (civil y militar) en todas las enfermedades
    II Parte

    Alfredo Embid

    II Congreso de MTC, Sociemetrach, Facultad de Ciencias económicas, Caracas Marzo 2012

    Power Point 11,2 Mb.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Very interesting resource of Fukushima and nuclear related articles and releases…..

  • Choto
    Tontín y la Central Nuclear – La locura nuclear explicada a los niños

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    March 16 2012..Pentagon preparing for a nuclear worst-case scenario at Fukushima
    The folks with the shiny medals..don't seem to have told the truth either…
    Evacuate Tokyo and All US Forces From Japan
    We Won't Forget..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    typo… March 16 2011…let's be clear..the Pentagon has known all along..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS..f**ing cowards…that bunch…

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Just stumbled into August 2011, and found this post about the shared basement under R1-4. This sounds different than the common sfp, but did we dismiss this already? Thanks.

    However,this evening,Tepco “confessed” a new fact.

    That’s there is a huge pool on the basement floor of Fukushima,which is shared by units 1~4. They stock 6400 nuclear spent fuel rods in it,and groundwater is flowing into the pool through broken duct.

    Now the massively contaminated water is in it at least 9.0t.

    6400 fuel rods is about 140% of the total fuel rods in the reactors.

    Actually Fukushima nuc plants are built on underground water vein,they always needed to pomp up groundwater. However,because of the accident,they stopped pomp up the water.This fact has not been published yet.

    They say Tepco “found” this trouble on 8/13,but they can’t not know the fact since the very beginning of the accident.

    Massive steam might have something to do with this.

    Possibility 1)
    Melt-out fuel rods are reacting underground and keep having hydrovolcanic explosion with groundwater.

    Possibility 2)
    6400 spent fuel rods are boiling the ground water and it splashes steam from the cracks.

    Possilibity 3)

  • CaptD CaptD

    expect to see more not less radiation coming from Fukushima as the recent EQ's increase the interaction between the the Corium(s) and the groundwater under the entire Complex…

    TEPCO has hopes of restarting #5 and #6, so that they are taking baby steps now instead of moving full speed 24/7 to fill with concrete what is left of the #4 reactor building, creating a new external SFP that encase the weakened one above it; then can install a new overhead gantry crane and start moving SFR assemblies off site ASAP!

    This may be the biggest BLUNDER of all time if yet another BIG EQ causes that weakened SFP to collapse…

  • CaptD CaptD

    Great clickable wind maps:

    Imagine if we could harness this zero impact energy source!

    Bye Bye 1st. Nuclear, then Coal, then …

  • Craig-123

    I don't often see the efforts of Michael Mariotte (Nuclear Information and Resource Service) –mentioned by people involved with Energy News. Here's an item from him which needs your action.
    Dear Friends,
    *This is big.* The $8.3 Billion taxpayer loan for construction of two new reactors at the Vogtle site in Georgia, the centerpiece of the Obama Administration's support for the "nuclear renaissance," may be blocked–by the Obama Administration.
    *Please act now and tell President Obama and Energy Secretary Steven Chu to stop these loans for good.
    And please help us spread the word–in this case, our numbers really matter.
    Here's the background:
    *According to an article today from the industry publication Platt's:
    –the nuclear industry is growing increasingly worried that the White House's Office of Management and Budget (OMB) will not give final approval for the Vogtle loan. That's because the nuclear industry wants a sweetheart deal–one where Southern Company has to put up virtually none of its own money and where all financial risk for the loan is laid squarely on the shoulder of taxpayers.
    But both OMB and DOE have come under scathing criticism, especially from Congressional Republicans, over the failure of the Solyndra solar company loan granted by the Administration. And the proposed Vogtle loan would be 15 times larger (and far riskier) than the one given to Solyndra.
    Thus, the Administration is being more cautious over the Vogtle loan than it would have been when first agreed to more than two years ago. And the more public scrutiny the Administration receives–and the more letters we send–the more likely that caution will lead to a cancellation of this loan

  • Craig-123

    Well –hell: I have to use "<br><br>" to post paragraph breaks to Common Dreams, but not to Energy News (of course). Sorry.


  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Look! ..protesters in Kyoto shouted down Hosono.
    Unprecedented amount of protesters..Kyoto
    YES!! Hold them back ..Kyoto..don't let them bring and burn radioactive debris in Kyoto.
    Fight this from happening with all your might…

  • CaptD CaptD

    Why baseload power is doomed:
    Great Article and many good comments

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    A quote from the last post..Physics Forum…
    As unit 1, unit 2 and unit 3's PCV temperatures and RPV temperatures are around 25°C ~ 55°C (as of 27 March), there is no significant variation of RPV and PCV parameters such as the released radiation doses, and we judge that the cold shut down status is comprehensively maintained.

    In order to maintain the measuring instruments' soundness in the future, while the surveillance with measuring instruments is continuing, a study toward diversification and implementation of alternative temperature surveillance means is under way.
    .. These guys ride the "short bus" to school or what…?

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Nuclear reactor damaged by Japan tsunami still has fatally high radiation levels
    28 March 2012 | UPDATED: 02:21 EST, 30 March 2012

  • arclight arclight

    EPA FAIL: Radioactive Food, Leaking Nuclear Plants: Helen Caldicott

    Uploaded by MsMilkytheclown on Mar 31, 2012
    "Helen Caldicott "Educate those Corporate Prostitutes in Congress"
    originally Uploaded by FluxRostrum on Mar 30, 2012

    On day one of NOW DC ( ) Helen Caldicot speaks at the EPA about nuclear radiation and the need to shut down the dozens of reactors in the United States that are identical to the Fukishima plant and they are also on mostly on fault lines.

    Governments Worldwide Raise Acceptable Radiation Levels Based Upon Politics … Not Science

    *Note: Single radiation dose of 2,000 millisieverts (200,000 millirems) and above causes serious illness. See also exposure list below.
    Half-life of some radioactive elements

    In addition, Fukushima's Unit 3 reactor also used MOX [mixed oxide], a plutonium-uranium fuel mixture that is deadly. A single milligram of MOX is 2-million times more deadly than enriched uranium…."

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Oh..A report..the Congressional Research Service
    The Effects of radiation from Fukushima Dai-ichi on the US Marine Environment.
    ..umm..the Buck for the Library of Congress.
    The second guy… involved with this paper..
    The last paragraph..papered scientist "garblese" at it's best..
    He has co written with Woods Hole…
    What a cozy little group….

  • mungo mungo

    Foods with excessive radiation under new rule found in 8 prefectures
    TOKYO (Kyodo) — Food items containing levels of radioactive cesium exceeding a new limit, to be enforced from Sunday, have been found in 421 instances in eight prefectures since January this year, a survey by the health ministry showed Saturday.

  • Iodine-131
    Although drinking water levels of iodine-131 pose no risk to public health in Philadelphia, PWD continually monitors and investigates challenges to our water quality.
    About Iodine-131

  • China to ensure safe drinking water in countryside – Xinhua | English …
    China to monitor radiation in drinking water around nuclear plants,
    water safety for 298 million rural residents from 2011-2015, according to a statement issued by the State Council after a regular meeting presided over by Premier Wen Jiabao.
    A total of 114,000 rural schools, and nearly 80 percent of the rural population will have access to safe drinking water through centralized water supply facilities, according to the statement.
    In China's 11th Five-Year Plan period of 2006-2011, 105 billion yuan was used to make the drinking water safe for 210 million rural inhabitants.

  • Localities To Ramp Up Radiation Testing Of Food

    TOKYO (Nikkei)–Prefectures near the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant are stepping up radiation testing of food to comply with tougher government guidelines taking effect on Sunday.

    Radiation thresholds for food and water will be lowered to between 5-25% of existing provisional levels.

    For instance, the radiation limit for vegetables and other general food items will be set at 100 becquerels per kilogram. Limits on milk and baby food will be set at 50 becquerels per kilogram, while drinking water will get a 10 becquerels per kilogram ceiling. Rice, beef and other items …

  • Japan’s Near Miss

    Large Scale Nuclear Catastrophe and the Ongoing Crisis
    March 31st, 2012

    Spring is finally here. Even in post-apocalypse Japan after days of cold rain and gloom, the veil has lifted. The blue sky came out the other day, and people enjoyed Tokyo’s central park for gentle weather and sunshine dancing on the leaves; the viewing of early variety cherry blossoms; young families had picnics with their children and played ball; college students had boisterous drinking parties; dog owners strolled their barking status symbols; joggers and cyclists made the rounds; comedians, artists, acrobats, musicians and frenzied bongo drummers entertained passersby. Everyone was happy, alas, little did they know the following story.
    Reactor Unit No. Four
    While it is true that we live in interesting times, …

    • DebbyS

      "Near miss" is one of those odd phrases in English that actually mean the opposite of how they are used. "The airplane had a near miss with another airplane." "Japan was in a near-miss situation with disaster." In reality "near miss" means there was an actual hit or collision. The phrase should be "near strike" or "near hit," not that the planes *could* have hit each other but *didn't*, or that Japan could have avoided catastrophe… but we know it certainly didn't. They (Tepco, Japan) didn't nearly miss anything, they had and are still experiencing a cascade of problems that pretty much mean a slow, inevitable extinction level event. 🙁

      I appreciate your bringing that article to our attention 🙂

  • Bobby1

    Recently, a high school female students in Fukushima suddenly collapsed and died from a heart attack. Myocardial infarction at a young age is often killed in Fukushima prefecture. Also died from a heart attack my precious friend. Scary is not a rumor from fact.

    Baseline heart attack deaths in this age group:
    15 years to 19 years (except for hypertensive) heart disease 
    1.0 per 100,000 people (Japanese)

  • arclight arclight

    1 April 2012 Last updated at 14:24 Share this pageEmailPrint
    Email and web use 'to be monitored' under new laws
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    "Senior Conservative backbencher David Davis criticised the plansContinue reading the main story
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    Plan to monitor all internet use
    Warning over phone calls database
    The government will be able to monitor the calls, emails, texts and website visits of everyone in the UK under new legislation set to be announced soon.

    Internet firms will be required to give intelligence agency GCHQ access to communications on demand, in real time….."

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out–
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out–
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out–
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me."


    see how the rest of the uk population likes it.. the uk anti nukes have been dealing with it for some time!!

  • New study finds Japan’s defenses woefully inadequate to protect against a major tsunami

    April 1, 2012 – TOKYO – Japan’s defenses against a major tsunami and the safety of its nuclear plants were thrown into further doubt after two official studies predicted much higher waves could hit and that Tokyo quake damage could be bigger than it was prepared for. The reports, carried in the media over the weekend, are likely to intensify the debate about whether to restart Japan’s 54 nuclear reactors, all but one of which are shut amid public fears about nuclear safety sparked by the Fukushima disaster in March 2011. One report said a quake as big as the one that rocked Japan in 2011 could trigger waves topping 34 meters (112 feet), almost double its previous estimate made in 2003 when it’s worst scenario forecast tsunami of no more than 20 meters (66 feet). The Cabinet Office panel which authored the report, revised its predictions after one of the biggest tremors on record struck Japan last year, setting off a tsunami that topped 20 meters in the worst-affected areas and triggering the world’s worst nuclear crisis in 25 years. “We won’t be able to contain …

  • nohobear nohobear

    April Fools joke on one of my favorite shopping sites. Maybe before Fukushima I would have laughed. Strangely, I don't feel like laughing right now. Maybe that's a sign I should step away from Fukushima news for awhile. I don't know.

    I'm curious how most enenews regulars would react to this. (Moderator- I'm not trying to promote this website, I'm just curious to get everyone's reaction to this. If you want to delete, I understand).

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Environmental Pollution..(radiation sign on the map)
    Wow..RSOE EDIs..damn near wrote a novel.
    Something is up in Arizona..