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10,863 comments to FORUM: General Nuclear Issues Discussion Thread — New as of April 2016

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    Do radioactive particles stick to plastic? "'Microplastics in our seas now outnumber stars in our galaxy': World Environment Day 2018 aims to beat plastic pollution" https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/microplastics-in-our-seas-now-outnumber-stars-in-our-galaxy-world-environment-day-2018-aims-to-beat-plastic-pollution/70005139

  • LOL part of the globalist narrative is for people to give up everything that they held dear, everything that they felt was a rock in the storm that they could hold on to.

    1) Capitalism

    2) Patriotism

    3) Spirituality and or a belief in the Great Spirit or God

    4) Hetereosexuality and the Institution of Marriage

    http://www.nukepro.net/2018/06/a-spiritual-center-in-brain-yale-calls.html

    The story below may be important, but check the spin imparted to it. "God" may be nothing more than a chemical reaction within your brain.

    Your thoughts on this?

    and for damn sure, you best be turning in your guns also….

  • Hawaii Volcano — USGS Footage of Lava Into the Ocean — Making New Land.
    http://www.nukepro.net/2018/06/hawaii-volcano-usgs-footage-of-lava.html

    stock here: Tuesday shows ANOTHER 5.5 hitting Hawaii, and a number of EQ right along the Hilina Slump which could create the 1000' super Tsunami.

    Yesterday was a quiet EQ day, pressure building during the calm. I saw like 24 EQ over 2.5 at one point in 24 hours. This is the 4th clear cycle of a daily "fast run" then a pause.

    I wonder how many people in Hawaii realize that the Hilina Slump could change their reality in a very real way? Low probability, but what we are seeing is unprecedented

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Fire in Chernobyl zone, Kiev says radiation levels safe" So there's a safe level? sarc
    http://www.nuclearpowerdaily.com/reports/Fire_in_Chernobyl_zone_Kiev_says_radiation_levels_safe_999.html

  • RAY-D-8-TED-DREAMS

    WEAK DOSES OF RADIATION PROLONG LIFE OF FEMALE FLIES, SCIENTISTS FIND
    These findings could reveal the genes that enable the prolongation of life and in the future lead to the creation of a means to stall aging in humans

    Date:
    August 21, 2015
    Source:
    Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology
    Summary:
    Scientists have revealed that weak doses of gamma radiation prolong the life of drosophila flies (fruit flies), and that the effect is stronger in females than in males. These findings could reveal the genes that enable the prolongation of life and in the future lead to the creation of a means to prevent aging in humans.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150821125323.htm

  • And how complicated is it? It's really simple folks…

    If you spend all your time whining about Trump or watching the ballgame you just won't have the time to pay attention to important things…

    Then there are the technical ones that are so caught up in details that they are either confused or they are simply lying…

    So what's wrong with this picture?

    I'll leave that explanation to the master…

    https://youtu.be/Mo78qm8k2LY

    And the scary part is the ones that repeat everything they read or hear somewhere no matter how ridiculous…

    You saw it on TV? Oh well it must be true then huh…

    Last time I was watching Good morning america they had a 10 minuet segment (I kid you not) on how to dress up your cat and then showed photos of people that apparently aren't busy at all… Look I dressed my cat up and took a photo of it and it made the national news…

    Yea like that's really the news. Local or national that's not the news…

    And the rest of these fools want to play the detail twisting game instead of actually paying attention?

    Useless stuff? Check this one out…

    https://youtu.be/gEDpTidAPwU?t=18s

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Yep! Love Ron White! Nice Brain Candy!

      When we kill it all..it will.. all be dead. Oil is very nasty shit!

      • Yep Ron is the real deal, he has a good working brain and lives a real life…

        And can spot shit from shinola a mile away…

        We should all get that philosophy and practice it regularly…

        I like the dead tree analogy…

        That's what half of us put up with daily…

        The other half are the ones scratching the bark and making excuses…

        So I'm going to fire up a good cigar and take a sip of good whisky and tell em what I'm lookin for in a fuckin tree…

        And anyone else reading this that doesn't know what I'm talking about watch this (famous last words of a redneck ya know obewan)…

        https://youtu.be/Mo78qm8k2LY

  • slandermen Deadboy

    Hey, did Anne say wyoming is far away from nuclear radiation and stuff? I seem to remember something like that when talking about leukemia or something.

    Anyway, I just wanted to point out that's not quite true since it seems there is uranium mining as well as a number of uranium facilities. Some of them seem to have a lot of accidents, too.

    Some uhm, reminders of hypocrisy. Russia! Long time ago, but still.

    https://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/russia-can-t-export-wyoming-uranium-nuclear-regulators-tell-barrasso/article_5018f8f8-c59a-5e1b-9401-c019cd6a8625.html

    This isn't so long ago, though.

    https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/03/12/1420744/0/en/Anfield-Energy-to-Acquire-Advanced-Uranium-Project-in-Wyoming-From-Cotter-Corporation.html

    "Wyoming – Irigaray ISR Processing Plant (Resin Processing Agreement)

    Anfield has also signed a Resin Processing Agreement with Uranium One whereby Anfield would process up to 500,000 pounds per annum of its mined material at Uranium One’s Irigaray processing plant in Wyoming. In addition, the Company can both buy and borrow uranium from Uranium One in order to fulfill some or all of its sales contracts."

    I wonder if that bypasses some export issues.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Milk Is Still Radioactive Because of Chernobyl, 30 Years After Nuclear Disaster More than 30 years after a Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant reactor exploded—blowing plumes of radioactive material across Europe—Ukraine is still feeling the effects of the tragedy.

    Milk from villages 150 miles away is still five times more radioactive than the Ukranian government judges safe, researchers reported in the journal Environment International. The scientists fear radioactivity levels won’t reach the safe limit until at least 2040 if officials fail to properly intervene."
    Milk is generally not needed for people, anyway. It doesn't do most bodies good, I'll say.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Experts: Nuclear Bailout Could Cost Up To $17 Billion A Year And "Destroy" Renewables Industry In U.S. " https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/4f40a1a8-1577-4f30-a1e8-319f79be95c9

  • slandermen Deadboy

    Spectacular news! Inform Mr Haley of the UN of the success!

    "On June 8, 2018, NRC issued a Final Environmental Assessment in favour of Westinghouse Electric Co.'s request for a 40-year license renewal for its Columbia nuclear fuel plant. "

  • slandermen Deadboy

    "TEPCO employee dies working inside Japan’s Fukushima nuclear plant

    The employee working inside the power plant began vomiting suddenly Wednesday morning, and was declared dead in the afternoon"

    https://nuclear-news.net/2018/06/09/tepco-employee-dies-working-inside-japans-fukushima-nuclear-plant/

  • UKRAINE

    2018 – Current radiological situation in areas of Ukraine contaminated by the Chernobyl accident: Part 1. Human dietary exposure to Caesium-137 and possible mitigation measures

    Extracts:

    This study reports for the first time temporal trends for the period of 2011–2016 in 137Cs content in cow’s milk originating from private farms and households of 14 settlements located in the territories of the Rivne region, Ukraine. These areas are still radioactively contaminated as a result of the accident at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant (ChNPP) in 1986. In 2016, the average 137Cs activity concentration in milk exceeded the Ukrainian Permissible Level (PL) for adults of 100 Bq/l in samples from 6 settlements and the PL for children of 40 Bq/l in 8 settlements, reaching activity concentration of around 500 Bq/l in some samples.

    In the absence of governmental programs for implementation of necessary protective measures to reduce radiological risks to impacted populations, the exceedance of PL for the activity concentration of 137Cs in cow’s milk for adults of 100 Bq/l in the Chernobyl-affected areas of Ukraine could persist for many more years – until at least 2040.

    • Comment:

      Even thirty plus years after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, the food supply of these communities is still seriously contaminated with nuclear fallout, affecting the health and well being of men, women and children. The 40Bq/l permissible level is still way too high a level for children! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9d3I3S99Dc&feature=player_embedded

      Article:

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412017321542

      • Yes indeed 40Bq/l is absolutely to high.

        And really it's not about dose, it's about excretion and repair from the damage caused.

        So they come up with a number based on public relations rather than health.

        And these numbers will go up according to the severity of the situation because in fact there is NO permissible dose of them.

        Each time you ingest ANY fallout it causes damage. That's at ANY level but, the excretion rate (biological half life) really determines the damage done.

        So if you pass it quickly it does less damage and your ability to repair yourself may mean the damage is temporary. With a growing child or a malnourished person the body is scavenging for nutrients and will take these things up and try to use them as nutrients. This prolongs the exposure and creates more damage than the same exact dose would create in a fully nourished adult.

        So if your body has plenty of potassium it will shed the excess and since Cesium mimics potassium the odds of passing it will be greater and will happen sooner than in a growing or malnourished person.

        Same with iodine and I-131/129

        This is why the government implemented Iodized salt after bomb testing.

        So in reality there is no way to determine a so called permissible dose of these substances.

        And there is NO safe dose of them, it's only a matter of how much damage occurs before your body ejects them through the stool or kidneys or sweat.

        • danger kitty danger kitty

          hippy dog, if you reread vial1's post, you will see the levels found were much higher than 40Bq/l. Some as high as 500Bq/l.
          40 Bq/l is just the target that words-on-paper aim for.

          You said something interesting;

          "Each time you ingest ANY fallout it causes damage. That's at ANY level but, the excretion rate (biological half life) really determines the damage done."

          I don't think I've heard it explained quite that simple way before. It would make all this confusing nuclear junk.
          So, if thats true, it's easy to figure out how long it takes to clear radiation from your body. Take strontium for example; half life of roughly thirty years. So you're saying that in thirty years all the strontium will be gone, right?

          Thanks.

          • danger kitty danger kitty

            Incomplete sentence above. Should read–>

            I don't think I've heard it explained quite that simple way before. It would make all this confusing nuclear junk,,,easier to understand.

          • Biological life is a different measure entirely.

            The biological half life is a term to describe how much of these poisons your body can get rid of naturally over time.

            For instance a normal healthy person may excrete most of the Cesium 137 encountered through the kidneys in around 30 days. That's the biological life or the time it stays inside you.

            So most is a relative term and that stuff will wreak havoc on your kidneys on the way out. Those that have more than enough potassium in their body already (when exposed) will excrete way more Cesium at a much faster rate. Those that are deficient in potassium will retain it longer as the body thinks Cesium is potassium (Cesium is a potassium analog).

            It's the same with radioactive iodine.

            That's why they tout the iodine tablet as a help in stopping thyroid problems when exposed and iodized salt.

            The problem with eating potassium iodine tablets is if you are deficient in either potassium or iodine you would have to eat the tablets some time (some people up to 3 days in advance) before being exposed to radiation for them to do you any good.

            And you can't take em willy nilly as the side effects are way too dangerous.

            So "biological half life" is not a subject many are acquainted with.

            Why? Not only will this subject prove a threshold level for radiation is pure bunk, it also proves that the miracle tablets they try to tell you will work almost certainly will not under real life conditions.

            • So to be perfectly clear (ran outta space on that last post)…

              Cesium mimics Potassium

              Strontium mimics calcium

              And iodine is self explanatory…

              If you are deficient in any of these nutrient and come into contact with their fake radioactive cousins you will retain a much higher amount of them and for a much longer period.

              If you have too much of the real nutrient already in your body you will excrete their fake radioactive cousins much faster…

              The amount of time these substances stay in your body determines the damage done.

              And no one knows unless they have blood work done and make adjustments in their diet to not be deficient in any of them.

              That (nutrition, age and overall health) determines the biological half life of these substances in healthy people.

              It's a roll of the dice as to if a particular substance will get lodged in a organ or bone but the biological half life (substance, nutrition, age and overall health) will help you to understand the risks and lessen them (the risks) with good nutrition.

              And understand the fact that dose is not dose! A certain dose may not hurt one person while the same level may be the actual cause of death to another.

              Hope this help…

              • danger kitty danger kitty

                Oh, that helps a lot, hippie dog.
                It helps me understand yet again that you don't know shit.

                Radio-isotope half life has nothing at all to do with excretion rate.

                Also, a half life period means HALF has decayed to a stable isotope, NOT ALL!
                Ot takes SEVERAL half life cycles for the bulk of the radiation to be gone.
                Until you learn more, you should treat Code with more respect. He runs circles around you.

                Do you figure British Petroleum is fixing to take a position in nuclear energy?

                • Biological halflife is a expression not a technical term dumbasses… It's a expression of something…

                  And code shutdown just had to chimes in with another totally fake number with the "I know better than you" attitude… Perhaps if you actually studied you would faker troll…

                  Boy how you fake intellectuals just won't hesitate give yourselves away…

                  So DangerKitty proves he can't read and comprehend the simplest of statements Example: DK asks "what do you cook that uses a half a gallon of milk" When the actual statements meaning was (wow can you read and understand what you read?) I don't use a half a gallon of milk in a MONTH!!!

                  Then Codeshutdown "The eloquent faker" chimes in with a totally fictitious number and fake theory and tries to disprove biology studied since the nuclear age began by REAL doctors, not fake unemployed clarinet players with a 500 dollar computer…

                  Wow and the fakers and trolls are so obvious and just can't wait to prove it by spouting insults and fake facts…

                  Get a life and grow a brain ole trolling ones…

                  • danger kitty danger kitty

                    "Biological halflife is a expression not a technical term dumbasses… It's a expression of something…"

                    Sure, hippy dog, it's just a expression.
                    Or is that 'a excretion '?

                    "Biological halflife is a expression not a technical term dumbasses… It's a expression of something…"

                    Says it all right there, hip dog. You would sound a lot smarter if you made no sound.

                    So, what about my question on British Petroleum? You would know…

                  • It would be a formula if every individual weren't unique in there phisical makeup at the time of exposure…

                    Since that is a true statement (each are unique) then it's considered a expression instead of a formula…

                    Now read that again if you need to to understand it…

                    It would be a formula if every individual weren't unique in there phisical makeup at the time of exposure…

                    That means the AGE, HEALTH AND NUTRITIONAL LEVEL when exposed are the determining factors…

                    So it's called a expression instead of a dead nuts (1+1=2) formula…

                    Get it?

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Mr. H. Dog. Half life is an immutable physical property of each radioisotope.

                      Has no relation to age or health of its human victim.

                      Radiation does what it wants to do!
                      Remember that, gibberish hound.

                      You are mixing up half life with excretion/chelation. One is biological. The other is abiotic.

                      No wonder you are so confused!
                      But, keep talking.

                      Your thoughts on BPs plans?

                • "Do you figure British Petroleum is fixing to take a position in nuclear energy?"

                  Not unless they are vying for free subsidy from the government… That would be like a wood carpenter siding with the steel industry…

                  It's not their business. That's the competition.

                  It would be the dumbest thing they could do without free money coming in for simply doing nothing…

                  And let's not forget, where does most of the raw uranium in the world come from? The British Empire. The land rights in most of British controlled countries are for only 6 feet down…

                  "This can get messy very quickly since determining exact boundaries underground is difficult and costly, unless you live in the UK, in which case, the Crown has first dibs on all coal, oil, silver, gas and gold found on public or private property."

                  This equates to uranium and gas and oil deposits all over the British controlled world too (not just Britain).

                  https://gizmodo.com/if-you-own-land-how-far-above-and-below-do-you-own-1617463782

                  So big petroleum owns the mineral, mining and drilling rights underneath your home already…

                  They would be fools to stray from their business and side with the direct competition unless there was ALLOT of free money involved huh…

                  Hummmmmm…

                  • danger kitty danger kitty

                    Nice exposition, HD. You CAN talk like a normal person!

                    So, doesn't it look like there IS a lot of free money for nuclear flying around under this administration?

                    btw No one holds mineral rights to my land but me. This is the West, h dog. And as is common in granite pegmatite, there are trace amounts of uranium. If I dug up my whole hill, I might get a 5 gallon bucket of ore. Wouldn't pay for the dig. And ruin a nice hill. Now, the tourmaline, otoh…

                    You now understand this?—>You are mixing up half life with excretion/chelation. One is biological. The other is abiotic.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Anne has lamar whipped like a piss-soaked pup. On this subject.
                      And thanks for your take, I'm thinking along the same lines, keep the BP low. haha

                      Apparently lamer is the only one who believes his BS. Scientific link to utoob.

                      Big surprise

                    • "So, doesn't it look like there IS a lot of free money for nuclear flying around under this administration?"

                      And what does that have to do with the UK?

                      Huh DK?

                      Not paying attention to what's said again?

                      Ya know I don't mind responding to you but if all you're going to do is skim over it and then instinctively come up with a opposing statement what's the point in taking the time to answer you to begin with (what I just stated written in plain English)?

                      Ego and ignorance abounds with you.

                      And I don't have the time to babysit little mental midgets in the park.

                      At least try to understand the response before slamming your foot in you mouth again.

                      Nuff said…

                      https://youtu.be/BQpZv2r8fb4

                    • "No one holds mineral rights to my land but me"

                      I gotta thousand dollars right now that says you don't even have a clue who owns the mineral rights to what's under your own land…

                      And that would be par for the course too…

              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                Tell us all again how strontium decays into calcium.
                That was the epitome of the d****** that you are.
                Big thick cow bones.
                Grass.
                Come on, refresh us, call it mindless entertainment

                • Air septic tank tech writes….

                  "Tell us all again how strontium decays into calcium"

                  Strontium doesn't decay into calcium, It's a calcium analog…

                  What does that mean really?

                  Is means it appears to your bodily systems to be calcium so your body will take it up and use it as calcium if it needs calcium at the time of exposure…

                  Your body would think it hit the crypto currency lottery if it needed calcium when you were exposed to strontium.

                  Strontium mimics calcium so best be sure you are not deficient in calcium if you go to a place contaminated with strontium…

                  Damn kindergarten questions…

                  Just what have you people been studying?

                  I'd expect it has something to do with a Donald…

                  https://youtu.be/V_ek4HKoa7w

                  Which one is anybodies guess…

                  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                    Air septic tank tech writes….

                    "Tell us all again how strontium decays into calcium"

                    Strontium doesn't decay into calcium, It's a calcium analog…

                    Hahahahahahaha

                    "So yes cesium does decay into a component of calcium in the animal body.

                    I call that a yes! Cesium does decay into calcium but only through animal/human metabolism, but that probably brings up more questions than answers right?"

                    http://enenews.com/fukushima-cover-up-keep-cancers-a-secret-say-doctors-were-getting-leukaemia-and-cataracts-and-we-die-suddenly-students-having-sudden-heart-attacks-officials-actively-i#comment-876540

                    Nothing like seeing a true liar suck an egg.

                    Take a bow.

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      Wait I thought it was strontium and calcium. Now it's cesium and calcium. Okay wait. I think there's something there actually, maybe with calcium and cesium reactions. Although, it's most likely to be completely different to anything said.

                      "Modification of cesium toxicity by calcium in mammalian system"

                      https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02990422

                      Hmm, maybe it could have some effects.

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      Who'd have figured, in say, bone and marrow related stuff (gee I wonder what that could be). Not only are cesium and strontium analogs and could replace potassium and calcium, it seems there's some sort of compound interaction. That's even before you consider radioactivity.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      From your link DB:

                      "The interaction between cesium chloride CsCl and calcium chloride Cal2 was observed in bone marrow chromosomes of mice. The two salts were administered orally to laboratory bred Swiss albino mice in vivo singly or one followed by the other, or both simultaneously. CsCl induced chromosomal aberrations in frequencies directly proportional to the dose administered. The frequency of aberrations was reduced significantly when the two chemicals were administered simultaneously or when CaCl2 was given2 h before CsCl. Thus, CaCl2 is able to protect against the cytotoxicity of CsCl."

                      Leave it to humans to fix it all up:

                      https://www.livescience.com/42266-death-alternative-cancer-treatment-cesium-chloride.html

                      We're all going to die, some sooner than others.
                      That we make and utilize long lived poisons.
                      Radioactive crap we have 0 clue the long term effect.
                      All for our convenience and amusement.

                      Too bad. We are the only species on the planet that thinks that way.

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      AST, thing is, most of the references I've made there refers to stable cesium…

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      So I don't really imagine if it's really unstable too, that it'd be super beneficial.

                      But like that alternative cancer treatment you link, surely that's not radioactive cesium. but as you hint…it's probably not an awesome idea.

                      Especially if you consider how calcium absorption is hugely influenced by typical societal factors (agriculture, lacking magnesium, boron, excess fluoride, sunscreens/lack of sun, dairy, etc).

                      Now if you make that radioactive TOO, it'll probably be VERY likely to be absorbed, in general, considering the lack of calcium uptake/production.

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      See now I'm talking about calcium and it was supposed to be about potassium, it's confusing.

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      Hey, maybe that "alternative" treatment is radioactive, I don't really know these things. I was just considering some of the other effects, before considering radioactivity.

                      "When enriched in radioisotopes, such as 137CsCl or 131CsCl, caesium chloride is used in nuclear medicine applications such as treatment of cancer and diagnosis of myocardial infarction."

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium_chloride

                      So, shit that causes cancer and heart attacks, is used for the treatment of cancer and heart attacks.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      I will agree it is confusing.
                      Maybe? we should quit f-ing around with all this stuff?

                      In fairness to the link:
                      I think, for the poor gal, it was stable Cs

                      But,,,she is dead, and that was the cure for dying sooner? or later? confusing.
                      Maybe it wasn't even the Cs that done the deed? Never discount the spinmasters.

                      Anyway, it is good that you dig, vs bombardment with utoob gobblygook.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      AST. it could be noted the quantity of cesium the woman took, had it been radioactive, would have killed 10s of thousands of people.

                      The unhealthy etiology of Cs-137 is due to radioactivity, where the chemical nature is more a transport vector.

                      an unhealthy quantity of Cs-137 is as low as one atom per cell. There are a couple hundred trillion atoms in a cell. Not even enough to do anything by radioactivity and certainly not chemically.

                      This shows a complex, not yet understood mechanism or mechanisms of low level cesium-137 toxicity. Bioconcentration has something to do with it. The bystander effect has a lot to do with it. Signaling functions have a lot to do with it. Direct hits to DNA doesnt have a lot to do wtih it

                      Bandazhevsky gets the prize for understanding the low level that is damaging…much lower than any standard science model, and also some or much of the biological etiology. Hidden in that chain of cause and effect that he lays out is a huge complexity of biological features not yet grasped

                      Therein lies the failure of scientists who so often believe they know it all, and only upon further investigation begin to grasp how little they really know

                      man was not humble, and poisoned the world

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Alternative medicine is always vilified in the press. Many many people have used cesium as an alternative cancer treatment. Hard to say how many benefited. The heart attack can be caused by excess potassium too. An injection of potassium has been used as a suicide technique and this dangerous electrolyte potential of potassium limits its allowed quantity in supplements.

                      It is a horrible tragedy for this womans husband to try and save his wife and end up killing her. The same happens all the time using standard medical techniques.

                      Im certainly not condoning cesium therapy, but one should look at this danger in perspective. The reason this comes up on this forum is that people try to pin the toxicity of cesium-137 on heavy metal poisoning and this is not true, unless you include radioactivity in the definition

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      "man was not humble, and poisoned the world"

                      That made me laugh pretty hard.
                      Too bad it is not funny.

                      As I trim a ginormous Willow, and…a Slippery Elm. The neighbor butts into my Shangri-La moment, and says, 'you should cut down those trees, the ugly one could fall on my house."(Elm)

                      I tell her it is Slippery Elm, we use it, have shared with others, it is a great supplement. It is good for stress, all manor of gut troubles, etc.

                      She stormed off mumbling law suits ect.

                      I think she needs some.

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      "Alternative medicine is always vilified in the press…

                      Im certainly not condoning cesium therapy, but one should look at this danger in perspective. The reason this comes up on this forum is that people try to pin the toxicity of cesium-137 on heavy metal poisoning and this is not true, unless you include radioactivity in the definition"

                      Imagine if those "alternative" methods are the methods for vilification, demonization by association.

                      Some people may want to point the toxicity of cesium-137 purely as heavy metal poisoning, I dunno, some people may want to ignore the chemical aspect.

                      I'm saying cesium is often poison without radioactivity and it pretty much is the medium for radioactivity (in the cases of isotopes). Cesium isn't that big a deal if it's not internal, from what I understand.

                      Anyway, it has compound effects, with say, strontium, considerations of calcium and potassium should be taking into account. It has fairly profound effects on the lymphocytic system, from what I can tell (effects on plants, fish, mammals), even without radioactivity.

                      Now I'd imagine, if you have these chemical "trojans", considering some of the mineral deficiencies I've mentioned, that interfere with typical metabolic and immune system functions and they also happen to be radioactive, that's probably not good.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      And yes I agree wholeheartedly, the lame stream medical field kills more that all alternative combined. Just going to the doc/hospital stresses me out. haha

                      All these points are pretty valid.
                      Causes me to think. hahahahaha

                      Cs is not real common/abundant in nature.
                      Maybe for good reason.
                      That we 'made' radioactive variants…prolly a bad plan. OOps.

                      Perspective vs spin.

                      I don't think we know what we are doing.
                      Neither did the ones before us.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      deadboy, as far as I can tell, you just reiterated what I was saying. Namely that the chemical toxicity of radioactive cesium is a very small, virtually insignificant part of what makes it toxic. But it plays a part as a vector. The chemical carries the radioactivity. take a dose of cesium that would be lethal if it were radioactive and you wont notice it.

                      The point is that people are trying to understand why this small amount of radioactive material is so damaging, and they are saying its a heavy metal poison, and thats not the right way to understand it.

                      This gets back to the 'banana lie' and the background comparison. If you wanted to make cogent debate with Woods Hole, you would start to lose the battle with this view of chemical toxicity.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

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                      the Miami Herald has uncovered a total of 19 foreign nationals buying Miami real estate with offshore companies in the Panama Papers. Eight of those 19 individuals had been linked to bribery, corruption, embezzlement, tax evasion or other misdeeds in their home countries

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              you excrete most of the cesium-137 in 30 days?

              The biological half-life of caesium is about 70 days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium-137

              what do suppose 'half life' means?

              Cmon HD, up your game

              • danger kitty danger kitty

                Lol, two arrows hit the same target, simultaneously.
                I love the sound of a dog whimpering on a beautiful Sunday morning.

              • “…The main problem with cesium-137, which is present in the form of salts, is its high water solubility. Cesium-137 ions are readily distributed in the body, and especially in the muscle tissues. The biological half-life is 110 days. This means that half of the cesium-137 has been excreted again after 110 days….”
                https://www.geigercounter.org/radioactivity/isotopes.htm

              • And I hate to be so obvious but both Codeshutdown and Doc Anne have vastly different numbers…

                Why? They read it somewhere…

                Then they simply accept it without any real research into the true facts.

                So the "so called" biological half life of Cesium is 30 days is the correct statement (do the math) and as I explained earlier ALL those times depend on the AGE, CURRENT Nutritional LEVEL (at time of exposure) and Current state of health…

                So in 100 individuals of different ages and health and nutritional levels EVERY INDIVIDUAL WILL BE DIFFERENT!!!!!

                So the base is (for half to be excreted) IS 30 days.

                And most of the cesium (that's going to be excreted anytime soon) is excreted within 30 days. The remaining will be excreted based on, guess…

                AGE, CURRENT Nutritional LEVEL (at time of exposure) and Current state of health.

                So this is a great lesson for you…

                You can read 19 different Biological half life times and they will all be different. Many are wrong when referring to 100 individuals except for the first 30 or so days after exposure…

                Some will excrete more (Healthy and well nourished people) and some will excrete less (unhealthy, malnourished and the young that are growing rapidly and scavenging materials for that growth).

                There is no number after the first 30 days that will be consistent among 100 individuals…

                So you saw it somewhere on the internet so it must be true?

                You must be CNN and Fox News fans too…

                • HD, you have no link, and hence no credibiity.

                  Biological half-life of Cesium 137 is 110 days.

                  https://www.geigercounter.org/radioactivity/isotopes.htm

                  And people eat contaminated food and that increases many more years in the body.

                  Plus cesium 137 follows the pathway of potassium, but is a much larger molecule so it get stuck and never leaves the body.

                • danger kitty danger kitty

                  Hdog, You are mixing up half life with excretion/chelation. One is biological. The other is abiotic.

                  • That's what I've been trying to say man…

                    A formula can not be established because of the major vairences between humans and their condition at the time of exposure. So the most accurate determination is a few weeks. The doctors know this, the researchers know this, time for others to know it too.

                    Seems the miscommunication continues huh….

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Your babbling is proof of it.

                    • And your constant bashing in the face of simple truth and hands on tested fact says it for sure AST.

                      What the HELL is wrong with you people?

                      Ya should be watching the info and reading what was posted instead of playing kiddie games in your LITTLE FREE troll bashing fun house…

                      But that's why ignorance abounds and you are one of the most amateur troll producers of that useless crap.

                      Did you learn anything from what was posted? No…

                      So bash it and join the elite useless shit talkers out there…

                      I hope all OF you are proud of yourselves…

                      https://youtu.be/V4KTebUT6Mw

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      There are no variances in half lives, hd.
                      Thats immutable.
                      The only question is : is it in me or out?
                      Thats excretion.

                      Once excreted, it will STILL be radioactive; decaying over MANY half life cycles before it ALL becomes a stable element.

                      You claim radiation clears the body in a couple of weeks?
                      My late wife will be surprised when I tell her that.
                      Ive been working to clear the rads from my body for 7 years.
                      Successfully. I'm not dead.
                      Spirulina from a clean source is why I'm not dead.
                      So, no I don't think rads clear the body in a few weeks. I'm not done after 7 years.

                      You have mis-read something.

                    • After all it's not like you have to actually contribute anything to be here so why don;t you imagine this is just your bashing anything you don't understand fun house…

                      But that's why ignorance abounds and you AST are one of the most amateur producers of that useless crap here.

                      Did you learn anything from what was posted? above? No… Did you even look at it for details or knowledge you don't already have?

                      No again.

                      So bash it and join the elite useless shit talkers out there…

                      I hope All OF you uselss truth basher sheeple are proud of yourselves…

                      https://youtu.be/V4KTebUT6Mw

                      Be careful with a fool, one day you may make him smart…

                      https://youtu.be/8Tyg5SJDpiQ

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      My, my drivel mutt. You got no facts, you got no argument, but WE are "useless shit talkers."?
                      From whose basement are you posting this drivel? While dunking doritos in your whiskey?
                      Who's your daddy, HD? Why are you here?
                      Why do they want you here.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      You ARE here under false pretenses, HD.

                      Recently you argued we cant shut nukepower down all at once or EVERYONE'S electric bill would double.

                      Sure you're antinuke?

                    • "You got no facts, you got no argument, but WE are "useless shit talkers."?"

                      My point made in spades…

                      What was the subject again? Oh you don't care.

                      The subject for real educated and mature people was how long does cesium stay in the average persons body…

                      Yea. that's the ticket huh… Waste time bashing and try to turn it around on the person that brought you proven fact. That way you can have childish fun instead of learning and helping to educate huh danger litterbox rooter kitty…

                      You people are disgusting in your ignorance but it's easy to see how ya got that way…

                      Just continue to pay attention to nothing and do nothing real that helps anyone.

                      And whatever you do don't forget to try to discredit real fact for a juvenile need for attention and superiority while bashing others that actually study and do right…

                      See they (those that learn) have the things you don't because they actually do something real in the world and that's just something foreign to do nothing whiners and bashers that spout pure propaganda and fiction as a defensive reaction when given facts they don't (and won't) understand.

                      And that's learning disabled…

                      But if you knew that you would be cured?

                      I really doubt it after all the crap I've seen here…

                      And notice the word disabled there. That's mentally disabled for those of you without the knowledge to know better.

                      Yea that's the ticket…

                      https://youtu.be/iyp9fh-u4w8

                    • And let's be clear about the dumest statement said allday…

                      Daaaaaanger Kitty said:

                      "There are no variances in half lives, hd.
                      Thats immutable.
                      The only question is : is it in me or out?
                      Thats excretion."

                      Wowsers with totally uneducated foolishness on top

                  • And that's by far the dumest statement made so far, you should be proud. With some of this crap that's flown aroud today you are officially in the elete of the propaganda spreaders now…

                    Hile foolier!

                    The biological excretion in ANYONE pewrson is determined by how well their immune system works and how much is actually absorbed.

                    So if you are going into a area you know has a large amount of cesium eating 5 or more bananas at every meal (provided they are not contaminated) for a couple of weeks before going there WILL protect you…

                    Why? Your body will have a excess of potassium and will be excreting the excess already so if you were to happen to ingest cesium 137 or 134 you body would not be as likely to take it up as a nutrient that is was already trying to get rid of anyway…

                    Going to that same place with a potassium deficiency would guarantee the uptake of a LARGE amount of that poison, going there with a surplus of potassium in your body would stop the uptake of that poison.

                    So why do they say to eat POTASSIUM iodide tablets after a accident?

                    To flood your system with POTASSIUM (so it will reject Cesium) And iodine (so your body will reject radioactive iodine) now why is that simple fact so hard to understand?

                    Could it be ego? Or is it a simple learning disability…

                    Or it could be…

                    https://youtu.be/8_mePjkQW_c

                    • You also have to have a totally vegan diet. Don't put any dairy, etc., into your system. Eat an alkaline diet and avoid all EMF fields and other radiation exposure and avoid all toxins including GMOs and pesticides and herbicides, etc.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Hippie dog, you are either really stupid, or PRETENDING to be stupid on purpose.
                      I'll explain my point one more time, very carefully.

                      Yes, HD, each radioisotope has a different half life. One of the cesiums has a half life of roughly 30 days. Strontium 90 has a half life of about 30 years.
                      Each respective half life does not vary. You are claiming that each of those respective half lives can speed up or slow down it's decay rate, depending on health and age.

                      No, each respective half life does not vary. Does not speed up or slow down.
                      You are confusing it with excretion from the body. Seems to be a favorite topic of yours. How's that supply of copralite crystals?

                      Your claims that the "experts" tell us radiation clears the body in a few weeks, would imply that if you're not deathly ill after two weeks have passed, your body has cleared the radiation. Dovetails with Woods Hole, doesn't it?

                      Oh no, the party doesn't get started till later. Hot times…

                      Done here for now, HD, flail on.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      This is as dumb as it gets, no equal.

                      Hippie Dog
                      November 15, 2017 at 2:17 pm · Reply

                      That's strontium that mimics calcium directly.

                      The cesium connection is this…

                      Cesium is a potassium analog…

                      The (natural) potassium connection is that potassium converts many combinations (through many factors/processes) of nutrients into calcium…

                      Ever wounder how a cow has huge bones and yet weans off of milk or any other direct calcium source of any consequence as a juvenile (never to drink it again)? Last time I checked it was from the combination of minerals in the grass they are designed to eat.

                      A cow doesn't drink or eat anything naturally that has a large amount of calcium in it and yet they grow huge dense bones rich in it right?

                      Even the k40 (naturally radioactive) in potassium is a known and proven part of the process of converting nutrients to calcium…

                      So if you replace natural potassium with cesium and both are radioactive but one is a nutrient and the other is a mined metallic poison and the body thinks it's potassium. You would have to conclude that cesium, while not decaying directly into calcium in the wild is a component of the bigger combination of ingredients that make up calcium in animals.

                      So yes cesium does decay into a component of calcium in the animal body.

                      I call that a yes! Cesium does decay into calcium but only through animal/human metabolism, but that probably brings up more questions than answers right?

                    • "Yes, HD, each radioisotope has a different half life. One of the cesiums has a half life of roughly 30 days. Strontium 90 has a half life of about 30 years. Each respective half life does not vary"

                      Correct a half life is a half life.

                      But that has nothing to do with how long is stays in your body…

                      That's the point and the topic of my discussion with you today…

                      If the bionerd stuff left her body in 2 weeks or less instead of hanging around in her orgins and bones for years is that better for her health? Answer? YES it's better!!!

                      Why did it get excreted so quickly? Because she was nutritionally aware and it passed right through instead of getting incorporated! it went through her like shit through a goose!

                      Why? She boosted her potassium intake through clean and natural bananas weeks before eating the apple and her body was dumping potassium in spades already!!!!!

                      So a little cesium just went the way that all the real potassium was going.

                      Right into the toilet through urine.

                      Recon she was eating allot of CLEAN greens for iodine? You better bet she was.

                      Knowledge does the trick and eating pond scum from GOD only knows where is no substitute or supplement to that true fact…

                      Study nutrition and don't fall prey to processed cure alls….

                      No nacient iodine, no chlorella, no pills, no dufamaloflaginin BS fake processed cures!

                    • Ya wanna be healthy? Make fresh juice and ONLY use clean vegetables to do it.

                      No seafood…

                      No pills….

                      No powders….

                      No pondscum….

                      No marketed fake bullshit!

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      "Anybody got any additional help / information on this one out there?"

                      Go get drunked up again?

                    • Ast writes

                      "So yes cesium does decay into a component of calcium in the animal body.

                      I call that a yes! Cesium does decay into calcium but only through animal/human metabolism, but that probably brings up more questions than answers right?"

                      NOOOOOO………

                      Cesium starts out as a heavy metal excuse for calcium from day one!

                      So the decay chain iS what hurts you?

                      NOOOOOO………

                      The fact that it's chemical makeup is a poison to start with hurts you…

                      When you ingest that crap and your body is deficient in that natural substance, that's when it hurts you, the fact that it will never stop hurting you is a side effect and has NOTHING to do with it suddenly breaking down and turning into something else.

                      What hurts you is your body thought it was a crypto currency for calcium and incorporated it into your tissues…

                      What happens after that happens? (your body got lied too and believed it?) is just scenery.

                      If your body is carrying around fake nutrients that are poisons and these imposers just keep poisoning you it really doesn't matter what they turn into because whatever it is, it's just going to be more poisons.

                      Until you can successfully get rid of em and replace them with real natural nutrients, your'e screwed my friend…

                      Wow how simple huh, but everyone seems to wanna make it so complicated…

                      ..And just don't (for whatever reason) EVER get it done…

                      Wanna get it done for real? It's simple but it's allot of work…

                    • Watch this whole thing, it's the best 10 minuets you'll ever spend in your life…

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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Negative…you wrote that/this:

                      "So yes cesium does decay into a component of calcium in the animal body.

                      I call that a yes! Cesium does decay into calcium but only through animal/human metabolism, but that probably brings up more questions than answers right?"

                      Are you so stupid/drunk you can not read/understand your own posts?

                      With direct links?

                      wowsers

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Bye-the-way, nice move to change the subject to juicing.

                      I guess all of us were 12 years old once, maybe some longer than others.

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      You know how hard it is to get a dog to recognize itself in the mirror, AST?

                      Sure it may bark at itself a couple of times, but the next time you try, it doesn't have a clue…

                    • Just another readin comprehensive challenged mo…

                      ..or a intentionally distracting and troublemaker troll.

                      That's too obvious to be complicated in the least…

                      Did you not understand what I said in plain English?

                      Let's try this again and for the final time…

                      STRONTIUM STARTS OUT AS A CALCIUM IMITATOR!!! THAT'S HOW IT GETS INTO YOUR BONES TO START WITH.

                      Wow can I say it any plainer or less confusing than that to a totally confused or simply distracting troll?

                      Here's one for you to pay attention too…

                      https://youtu.be/HrwDzuUtQKY

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      So, let me get this straight, Sr90 gets into your bones?

                      What is the half life on that?

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Funny how Nature put life blood production, in mammals, inside the protective walls of bones…

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Hippie Dog Classic

                      "I call that a yes! Cesium does decay into calcium but only through animal/human metabolism, but that probably brings up more questions than answers right?

                      Anybody got any additional help / information on this one out there?"

                      What is the correct term for someone accomplished at…jibber-jabber?

                      Jibberist?

                      JabberJockey?

                      ??

                    • Had a moment to answer a worthless troll attack so here goes.

                      So Air septic tank tec looked at my article on cows and how they wean and still develop to be 2000 plus pounds with bones the size of large tree limbs but says it's stupid.

                      Then riddle me this trolling fool.

                      Ever seen a grown cow drink milk or eat calcium supplement tablets? So where did those huge bones come from? No milk from the time it weaned as a calf? No going to the drug store drive thru for calcium tablets.

                      Spalin it to me Lucy! Where did all that calcium come from to make those huge bones?

                      Little green men?

                      So where did all that calcium come from to make bones that weight more than you fully clothed with your boots on and a belly full of cheesburgers?

                      Tell us genius. Can't wait to hear it.

                      I'm not a new york city hotel owner, I'm a former ranch hand that has run horses worth more than you and 5 people you know.

                      So tell us o trolling one where do these huge bones come from? These animals start out small and wean off mothers milk small and then grow to a enormous sizes drinking no milk and eating no calcium tablets or bones of any kind.

                      Help me out there nay sayer troll, just where does all that calcium come from?

                      Apparently there is a reaction that causes calcium to be produced and assembled by the cow itself, now what could be involved in that. Could't have anything to do with potassium huh.

                      The aliens did it did they? Usleess troll

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Apparently, and most characteristically, your mind is stuck once again, this time on milk is the only calcium source in nature.
                      And that cows have some magical mystery calcium production plant internal to only them.

                      Please, unfuck your mind.

                      https://www.eatthis.com/calcium-rich-foods-not-dairy/

                      "We’ve all heard we should drink milk or eat dairy products to boost our calcium levels. But in fact, the best sources of calcium come from the produce department—not the dairy department!

                      The reason is simple. Calcium is a mineral found in soil where it is then absorbed into the roots of plants. Animals (like cattle) get their calcium by eating these plants. So the real source of calcium comes from the earth itself—not the cows grazing on the plants.

                      In the end, whole plant foods such as green vegetables, beans, seeds and even fruits are rich in calcium; you can get all you need from a whole food plant-based diet without having to eat dairy products.

                      What’s more, getting your calcium from plant-based foods is far more efficient than getting it from dairy products. When you drink a glass of milk, 1/3 of the calcium is lost through urinary elimination. And the numbers are even worse for cheese – your body loses 2/3 of the calcium in cheese. By contrast, when you eat plant-based foods, your body can use up to 60% of their calcium content.

                      https://ucdintegrativemedicine.com/2015/05/everything-you-ever-needed-to-know-about-calcium-but-probably-didnt/#gs.MFHImrI

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      The short answer is calcium comes from dirt

                      Not magical Strontium/Cesium cow conversions.

                      Certainly not this:

                      "Apparently there is a reaction that causes calcium to be produced and assembled by the cow itself, now what could be involved in that. Could't have anything to do with potassium huh."

                      They eat ALOT of grass, hay, alfafa, green shit that grew in dirt. Dirt full of CALCIUM.

                      Dumbfuck.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Hippie Dog Classic Mugs available.

                      https://www.cafepress.com/mf/22925298/i-make-stuff-up-unicorn_mugs

                      Sorry, saddle not included. You could make a nice cup of calcium rich hot chocolate though.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      It could be that Hippie Dog ran into a rather obscure but fascinating study of biological transmutation of elements. Basically they ground up some chickens and their eggs and measured the amount of calcium and compared it to the amount of calcium in the chicken feed. Pretty straight forward. They found more calcium in the chickens and eggs than existed in the feed. Not just chickens…seeds, crayfish and other biological organisms

                      http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/04/0633.pdf

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      CS, I don't mean to be an ass but that kinda supports what HD is saying, not outright, but conceptually.

                      So, what would result in more calcium output than input? I'll try and check that pdf a bit later.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Deadboy, yes I know it is in support of Hippie Dogs statement. I have brought this subject up before and perhaps he read it there or somewhere else. But If he were straightforward he would simply link to a study like I did rather than a cartoon or rock song

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  "So the "so called" biological half life of Cesium is 30 days is the correct statement" HD, if its variable, how can 30 days be the correct statement?

                  As I understand it, there is a two phase character. 10% is excreted with a half life of 2 days.

                  I doubt those biological half lives apply to the forms coming from Fukushima. And like Anne said, its in the environment so you continue to get dosed

                  It would look better if you simply admitted you made a mistake, rather than trying to put down others as idiots.

                  • But, but, but, you are a no fact finding fairy tale spouting mo that makes it up as she goes along using tidbits of scattered information and sprinkling eloquent descriptions of nothing on it like fairy dust…

                    And you do it with subjects that cannot be compared on any level constantly.

                    And then as soon as any fact of proven science is shown to you you begin taking it apart before even studying it, regardless of what that true fact is. And it's not just one fact or one occasion but every every fact and every time a real proven fact is presented to you…

                    So go ahead and tell us how we never landed on the moon, or the twin towers were intentionally blown up with thermite, or that potassium can be compared with nuclear fallout in ANY WAY.

                    ALL PURE BUNK!

                    Some people are mind blowingly blind and learning disabled to a clinical proof.

                    And it's been proven here over months and years beyond doubt over and over and over again…

                    WTF is wrong with you fairy tale spouting, truth insulting, fact twisting, propaganda spreading fools.

                    Wowsers with a can of obvious on top.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Blatant bloviating conflation, HD. Your only weapon.
                      You sure arent armed w/facts.

                      And this vauge delusional statement —>

                      "And it's been proven here over months and years beyond doubt over and over and over again…"

                      You have proved nothing, HD.

                    • Not surprising you dont get DK. But I sure wish you would start…

                      But as grandpappy used to say (lived to be 100)

                      Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first…

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    HD has an interesting take on radiation contamination and how it behaves in the body. For the most part he is correct, but then when I take my Vitamin B tablet my urine is bright yellow for the day and over time it returns to normal.

                    Where did that Vitamin B go?

                    Did I piss it all out of my body? Nope!

                    The bottom line is: Nope!

                    Chernobyl cesium is not decaying properly and they do not know why.

                    There are still 2 headed fish, snakes, dolphins, sheep and humans showing up worldwide.

                    That proves the points made above.

                    Do not eat any contaminated apples and run like hell!

                    Fukushima. Five years after life, report from the dead zone … – YouTube
                    Video for fukushima dead zone youtube▶ 14:45
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Qdw0vO2gU

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Simply based on the above video and the countless other videos showing the destruction to life and property and to the only planet we call home from Nuclear Radiation Contamination.

                      This entire Nuclear Industry should have been shut down 70 years ago.

                      Only a moron would think other wise..but then.. we do have a planet that is run by morons.

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      I followed a link on one of the images obe posted..the birds scan with visible particles..to nuclear-news..a few articles related it seems..

                      https://nuclear-news.net/tag/mutations/

                      Ionizing radiation from Chernobyl affects..

                    • So that's a great one obewan!

                      Why did your urine go darker?
                      Wow simple and proven biological function tells the true tale.

                      So your urine got darker because you were dumping proteins through your kidneys.

                      Why? Because that tablet is only 7 to 10 percent effective no matter what.

                      Your stomach acid destroys over 70 percent of the active component of that tablet.

                      All that burnt up crap has to go somewhere.

                      And since your body cant use it, it is excreted through the kidneys and winds up in your urine.

                      So to combat this the manufactures put buffers into the tablet to destroy that effect and in doing so it destroys digestive acids by proxy. And by proxy of eliminating the acid you don't digest food as well leaving more unbroken down proteins in your blood serum that the body just can't use.

                      Where do these unbreakable and unusable proteins go? After passing through the liver several times your body gives up on them and then sends them to the kidneys and/or the colon to be excreted.

                      So any vitamin tablet you eat is less than 10 percent effective in actual blood serum and it's a chemical that is in fact fake and not derived from a natural source (99.9 percent of the time).

                      In fact if you stop taking all vitamin tablets today you will have constipation or diarrhea depending on what tablets you were taking and your body chemistry after (and I'll bet within) a week.

                    • So tablets in any form (any tablets) are less than 10 percent effective.

                      Where does the other 90 percent go?

                      to your kidneys or into your colon

                      No pills, no powders, no elixirs.

                      Do you get constipated or have loose stools after eating a pill?

                      Does your piss suddenly turn yellow?

                      That's the dumping of toxins and/ or unusable unbrokendown proteins from the digestive effects of buffers in the tablet(s) on your food digestive process and the broken down portion of the tablet you ate.

                      Try eating asparagus! Does your piss turn yellow and smell funny? Why? Because asparagus is a woody plant and your body can't use most of it so any part of it that ends up in blood serum that can't be utilized by the body is quickly excreted through the kidneys…

                      Goes back to the age old adage, ifn it's going to be useless and/or a burden, get it outta here quick…

                      Simple (and pretty complicated) but true…

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Radioactive Potassium (K40) In Bananas Compared To Man Made Artificial Radioactive Heavy Metal Poisons Cesium, Plutonium, Uranium, Tritium And Iodine; Peeling Away The Mystery And Deception
                      http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2012/03/radioactive-bananas-peeling-mystery.html

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      'Dr GoodHeart' at A Green Road makes an admirable stab at understanding the K-40 to cesium comparison conundrum. Unfortunately its not quite correct.

                      He mainly bases the argument on two ideas; that Cesium-137 is far more radioactive per gram and that its a heavy metal toxin.

                      These are not adequate arguments because the dose is not measured in mass but in radioactivity. So saying cesium is hugely more radioactive gives the impression there is a lot more radioactivity, but this is not the case. Everyone has a lot more radioactivity from K-40 than cesium except people near ground zero of an accident or bomb.

                      Then cesium is not really a heavy metal toxin. Its toxicity as an element is not high. One could eat many would-be-fatal doses of non radioactive cesium and not feel anything. In fact people do this intentionally. I would eat say 100 milligrams of non radioactive cesium that would kill 40 people if it were radioactive without fear.

                      The real answer is suggested by Bandazhevsky "Yuri I. Bandazhevsky, M.D.
                      The direct influence of 137Cs on the heart is due to its selective accumulation within the myocardial cells [which then messes up your heart metabolism]" So even though GoodHeart mislabeled it, at least he got it in the article.

                      I would say even Bandazhevsky doesnt know the entire reason a given quantity of radiation from cesium is so much worse than the same radiation from K-40. Its an ongoing study

      • PlowboyGrownUp

        And the milk "Milk Is Still Radioactive Because of Chernobyl, 30 Years After Nuclear Disaster" http://www.newsweek.com/chernobyl-milk-radioactive-967000

        • Yep I don't drink and cook with more than a half gallon a month my self because of the fact that pollution and other nasties are in milk…

          We know this, they know this but it's a industry so no one will speak out in the main stream about it…

          You may can pasteurize the bacteria to death but that does nothing for the hormones, antibiotics and pollution it contains…

          And the next time you pick up that milk jug think about the acceptable levels of puss allowed in the milk from the udder infections these cows get from being milked all the time with machines and the acceptable levels of antibiotics and hormones that pass through them into the milk…

          MMMmmmmmm. Milk….

          And we in fact know that milk does NOT do a body good…

          It causes coronary artery disease and the protein found in milk (casein)
          Is know to fuel cancer growth as well…

          Humans are the only animal that does not wean and routinely drinks another species milk…

          T. Colin Campbell, PhD: Link Between Dairy Protein, Casein, & Cancer:

          https://youtu.be/xEWAf6sOGv0

          • Here is another excellent talk on dairy and other problem foods many think are good for them…

            What the Dairy Industry Doesn't Want You to Know – Neal Barnard MD:

            https://youtu.be/h3c_D0s391Q?t=1m36s

          • danger kitty danger kitty

            What do you cook that takes half a gallon of milk?

            • Wow DK The actual statement in writing right above your question was…

              "I don't drink and cook with more than a half gallon a month"

              A month is 30 days right? And I usually end up pouring allot of it out as I won't even use a half a gallon before it goes bad…

              So that less than a half a gallon is spread out over a month and some is always wasted too…

              Sometimes it's half the container that gets wasted…

              In other words I use as little milk as possible.

              You should read more slowly and/or more closely if you want to really know what's going on man…

              Any other questions?

              • PlowboyGrownUp

                New plowboy anti=milk slogan "Milk=it does no body good"

              • PlowboyGrownUp

                Milk? MakeMineMilkless

                • Amen brother!

                  It's too bad more don't pay attention to the truth and facts of real science and research…

                  Truth outweighs marketing everytime!

                  Tunes?

                  Here's one for all the milk consumers out there!

                  Evanescence – Call Me When You're Sober:

                  https://youtu.be/_RrA-R5VHQs

                  • PlowboyGrownUp

                    Anti milk link, in case somebody missed it:
                    https://www.sott.net/article/237457-Milk-The-Poison There's more links

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      I've avoided milk for most of the last 3-4 years or so. I'm going to use a bunch of dairy products now. I've been using more of it lately. I was hoping it would make me seem normal or more sociable.

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      Oh yeah another cool thing. The other day when I saw Trump speak for like a minute (G7 I guess), he was bitching about tariffs on canadian milk, he mentioned something like a 270% tariff.

                      He believed there should be no tariffs, proving that he's not only a hypocrite but he also wants to kill you with strontium.

                      In a bizarre way, I could argue more expensive dairy is a health benefit.

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      I hope Europe does not lift its restrictions on GMO antibiotics and growth-hormones etc saturated meat and stuff

                    • "In a bizarre way, I could argue more expensive dairy is a health benefit."

                      There's some truth!!! You go DB!!!

                      So they tax cigarettes because they are supposed to be bad for you but feeding your child something that could (and more often than not does) contain the most deadly poisons known to man is supposed to be OK and cheap too?

                      What a total crock! It's proven to excelerate existing cancer, causes obesity and heart disease (the number one killers on the planet bar none) but we should just let em keep bringing it to market so cheaply that no one will ever stop using it?

                      Why? It's that demon tobacco that the real problem huh…

                      Tariff a real and proven cancer causer (cows hormone and antibiotic and pollution and totally dead 30 day old puss laden milk)?

                      A tariff to to help stop sheeple from feeding that commercial poison to their kids daily?

                      Ohh but don't use tobacco…

                      They are entitled to feed poison to their kids because they don't smoke?

                      Watch this one ole better than everybody else ones…

                      Kinda gives me hope for future generations!

                      Why Drinking Milk Is Rocket Fuel For Cancer:

                      https://youtu.be/a1dsWjNv3b0

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      Now HD, can you tell me why Trump would say that shit, considering shit like Nikki Haley, Scott Pruit, Rick Perry, more nuclear shit, more pollution, less regulation?

                      Because, I kinda don't understand, considering some of the things some people have said.

                  • Well DB to be honest I haven't heard him say it…

                    But I spend most of my time looking at evidence and very little watching mouthpieces..

                    There are only so many hours in the day ya know?

                    So if you asked me what is the effects of drinking a commercialized hormone, puss and pollution laden product I'll have some answers and comments for you…

                    If you ask me what some guy that was in the hotel business said about it I'll probably draw a blank…

                    Not only because I don't know but because I don't really care (just being honest).

                    Modern shelved cows milk is probably by all proven rights the most toxic and unhealthy thing around.

                    These are the things we need to know for ourselves. And if we stop buying it, they will clean up their act or be gone and many will as soon as that happens (yea right).

                    Studying what trump says about it just ain't gonna accomplish that.

                    But hey I'm game gotta link?

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      I dunno, it was on the BBC, I fuckwalked with a strange posture and two raised middle fingers, past the TV.

                      I promise you he said that. Anyway, that's also not addressing the OTHER links we've posted about, repeatedly.

                      40 years extension on nuke fuel plant in south carolina, westinghouse (trump used to invest), holtec (related to haley, who trump donated to, and is now UN ambassador) and WIPP, jp morgan, etc.

                      How the fuck do you ignore that?

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      Actually don't bother answering that, I noticed how that happens with family members, yesterday.

                    • You never ignore that stuff you get behind the scenes and get something done or you contact someone who can and educate them….

                      Unfortunately that's not a easy job. But if it was easy everybody would be doin it…

                      And it would't need to be done…

                      You can look at what I put up with here and see that simple fact…

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      Can you rephrase that so that it's closer to coherent english?

                    • OoPs.. Too late :-).

                      Heeheehee…

                      Tunes?

                      https://youtu.be/nPauXWjY4T8

                      And when you have some time watch this…

                      Twisting the Dragon's Tail:

                      https://youtu.be/H_gpqlqfyoA

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      So you're saying, I can legitimately ignore what you have to say?

                    • What part…

                      The finding out what the truth is for yourself from researchers instead of listening to a mouthpiece that only knows what his people wrote down say?

                      or was it

                      The getting behind the scenes and getting to know those in charge and influencing them?

                      or was it

                      The wearwithall to put up with all the silly crap from silly people to get it done reguardless…

                      What part did you not get?

                      And yea you can ignore me all you want to…

                      The question is why would you want to?

                      What am I no fun or something?

                      https://youtu.be/ngZmGwO2OYw

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      "The finding out what the truth is for yourself from researchers instead of listening to a mouthpiece that only knows what his people wrote down say?"

                      So, did those things I mention happen or not? Did westinghouse just get a 40 year renewal? Does Nikki Haley have relations with Holtec? Was she promoting nuclear?

                      See, some research suggests most of that is true.

                      But of course, I'm not sure if wise-uranium.org, for instance, has credible information. I cannot be sure of that, however, I don't see you actually addressing any of that. Though you suggest I should listen to what you have to say.

                      So, we can stop there, I guess.

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      With your sort of logic, reasoning and deflection, I fail to see any reason to consider fukushima as a legitimate problem.

                    • But we were having so much fun…

                      Here's my latest estimate of radiation and it's effects on mental health and the biological half and three quarter and 9/17ths life…

                      https://youtu.be/LLqqZmNFa_A

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      Go draw a map of all the nuclear mining sites, test sites, processing facilities, power plants, medical centers, fracking sites, including radioactive waste sites, then try imagining like a crude version of the dynamics, considering groundwater, agriculture, rivers, the ocean, the air, etc.

                      Uh, I wanted to say something else too. Oh yeah, I think it's funny when people try binary divide and conquer techniques. Not funny in that sense, funny in the sense of it being futile.

                    • Well ya better pay attention, fukushima is the start of the latest greatest ele…

                      Meanwhile back to doing nothing but listening to (and studying) distractions…

                      https://youtu.be/_YlFuLUplZ4?t=16s

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      None of those are new to me HD, and none of those address what I'm talking about.

                      What I mean is, take a map of america, and start marking waste sites, power plants, processing facilities, test sites, weapons manufacturing sites, fracking sites, medical sites, etc.

                      Then start connecting that to the environment, consider propagation, transport, etc.

                      There ain't no map for that. But I can tell you, that plutonium pits supported by your government probably doesn't help.

                    • "Uh, I wanted to say something else too. Oh yeah, I think it's funny when people try binary divide and conquer techniques. Not funny in that sense, funny in the sense of it being futile."

                      Yea and the really funny part is everybody else but the little group of fake fact and insulting trolls already know it, and is laughable too…

                      Go figure huh..

                      Not the trolls though, they never figure, they live under bridges and off of others hard and factual work as long as it's someone else's and spout fake facts and arguments all the day long…

                      Look, here's some trolls now…

                      https://youtu.be/oWgTqLCLE8k

                    • Well good luck with that, let me know when your'e done working on that. I'd love to take a look at it.

                      Wait the he said she said Trump and Hillary crap will take op all your potential research time though huh…

                      But look at it this way, you'll think you know what a new york city hotel owner knows about farming after someone else tells him what to say huh…

                      Wow that's gotta be worth something…

                      But what? I have no idea…

                      https://youtu.be/9Hn9xAaKUbw?t=2m7s

                    • slandermen Deadboy

                      "But look at it this way, you'll think you know what a new york city hotel owner knows about farming after someone else tells him what to say huh…"

                      Why do you continue with the irrelevant deflection bullshit?

                      I did't say anything about what he knows about farming. I said, it pretty much looks like he's involved with bullshit, based on the research. That bullshit, seemingly involving shit like nuclear energy.

                      You know, the kinda shit you often try to say is bad, but when someone you support…propagates it and has monetary dealings with it…I should ignore it.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "The National Nuclear Security Administration chose Triad National Security LLC as the winning bidder to manage Los Alamos National Laboratory, the birthplace of the atomic bomb. Comprised of Ohio-based Battelle Memorial Institute, Texas A&M University and the University of California, the team will begin taking over later this year.

    The contract — worth an estimated $2.5 billion a year — marks a big step as federal officials look to get the lab back on track after safety lapses and missed goals.

    The lab in recent years has mishandled plutonium and mistakenly shipped nuclear material to other federal facilities via a commercial cargo plane. It also inappropriately packaged waste that led to a radiation release and a nearly three-year closure of the nation's only underground nuclear waste repository.

    Criticism of the lab's safety record has intensified as the federal government pushes to restart production of plutonium cores for the nation's nuclear weapons arsenal." https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/06/08/the-associated-press-new-2-point-5b-contract-awarded-to-manage-nuclear-weapons-lab.html

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Hot property to develop as the center of the nuclear renaissance! A good argument can be made that this place is as good as any other. https://youtu.be/xNbC0CSLH5o?t=659

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    An "expert" always has the best judgement.

    https://youtu.be/xNbC0CSLH5o?t=690

  • slandermen Deadboy

    Bizarrely, HD made more sense than any of the people who replied to him in that other post there, imo. I couldn't read all of it/replies, too much pointless shit.

    Strontium vs calcium
    Cesium vs potassium
    Variable excretion/absorption rates, differences based on saturation and health.
    Maybe even some mentions of poisoning or effects related to deficiency or relative occurrence of analogs when testing radioactive stuff would be nice.

    • slandermen Deadboy

      Let's say I'm in good health, been eating lots of coca leaf, moringa, sweet potato, I dunno, stuff like that.

      Okay, now you give me bunch of milk and shit with cesium and strontium in it. Chances are, my body would get rid of it quicker in general thatn for say, someone who has a diet that's already kinda cesium and strontium rich, or someone who's just generally malnourished.

      That alone, would likely mean quite a bit less radioactive exposure (internally), since the radiation is somewhat surprisingly, tied to unstable analogs and will likely be excreted more readily.

      At least, that's how I read some of it.

      • slandermen Deadboy

        "We used a newly developed technique that insolubilizes and visualizes K+ excreted from the gills to demonstrate that gill mitochondria-rich (MR) cells are responsible for K+ excretion in seawater-Acclimated Mozambique tilapia. To achieve a better understanding of the molecular mechanism of K+ excretion from the gills, we identified the cDNA sequences of some candidate molecules that may be involved in K+ transport. Of these candidate molecules, only a renal outer medullary K+ channel (ROMK) exhibited markedly upregulated mRNA levels in response to a high external K+ concentration. We found that ROMK expressed in the apical opening of MR cells was the main molecular pathway responsible for K+ excretion. Using the insolubilization technique, we further demonstrated the excretion of Cs+ and Rb+, which are known to be biochemical analogs of K+, through the K+ transport pathway in the gills of seawater tilapia. The activation of ROMK in the gill MR cells induced by K+ supplementation could eliminate unnecessary biochemical analogs of K+ more rapidly, possibly serving as an effective countermeasure against radiocesium in aquaculture. © 2013 The Editor(s) (if applicable) and the Author(s). All rights reserved.

        Excretion of Cesium Through Potassium… (PDF Download Available). Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280962945_Excretion_of_Cesium_Through_Potassium_Transport_Pathway_in_the_Gills_of_a_Marine_Teleost [accessed Jun 10 2018]."

        • slandermen Deadboy

          Remember also that stable cesium by itself is toxic to plants (very likely not just) by interfering with potassium absorption.

          So yeah, there is legitimate concern with simply avoiding the analogs of calcium and potassium in general.

          Other things also affect excretion.

          "Acetazolamide (10 mg/kg, intraperitoneally) increases the urinary excretion of cesium-137 in the rat. Meralluride (6.8 mg of Hg per kilogram, subcutaneously) blocks the effect of acetazolamide on the cesium-137 excretion without any influence on the urine volume and pH of the urine. This indicates that acetazolamide increases the urinary excretion of cesium-137 by increasing its secretion through the renal tubule in the same manner as it increases the excretion of potassium and rubidium-86."

          http://science.sciencemag.org/content/136/3512/257

          "CESIUM ISOTOPES Cs-137/transport of fallout, to milk, use of aluminum phosphate, ferrocyanide, or sodium alginate for reducing effects of, on populations; POPULATIONS/radioisotope uptake from milk by human, methods for reducing; ALUMINUM PHOSPHATES/effects of gels of, on radioisotope uptake from milk by human populations;"

          https://www.osti.gov/biblio/4122909-incorporation-control-strontium-cesium-iodine-secretion-milk-final-report-april-july

    • danger kitty danger kitty

      Frank, you don't understand the subject. I barely do, but even I can tell HD is blowing smoke out his ass.
      You told us you were a lying bullshitter. Sometimes you are not.
      I suggest you stay out of Code's way. You don't understand how important his work product is. Don't be a brat, then your motive is uncool.
      When I have time, Frank,I'll post the sympoms of raids for you. Its helpful to know.

  • Jebus Jebus

    I have never seen anyone answer the question of how much is too much…

  • danger kitty danger kitty

    Overdue for outdoor time, kitty gone…hd will have to fight his own self. He's good at that…

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Researchers predict deadly worldwide fungi epidemic
    Researchers argue that new advanced drugs must be developed as soon as possible to prevent the deadly outbreak.

    Dangerous drug-resistant fungi could soon lead to an epidemic that will kill plants, animals and humans, a joint study of researchers from Imperial College London and the University of Exeter, published in the Science journal, has revealed." https://www.sott.net/article/387632-Researchers-predict-deadly-worldwide-fungi-epidemic

    • slandermen Deadboy

      Problem, drug resistance because of too much drugs and fucking with antibiotics and all kinds of pharma horseshit, etc.

      Solution, more drugs.

      Yeah okay fuckoff.

      • DUDe DUDe

        They are one of the planet's major cleaning organisme's..like bacteria but more advanced..they better adapt instead of keeling over to all poisson we dump for Earth's sake..capitalist dumb humanity that forced us to overdue on antibiotics and stuff..now gonne punish nature for adapting..? shees.

      • slandermen Deadboy

        So, when a fungus mutates or something, maybe turns pathogenic seems some of them hijack melanin, because melanin could very well be an important defensive (and anti-fungal) factor in some cases.

        • Jebus Jebus

          I go to GOM's article on how the reality of our fossil fuel reserves are the result of miles of microbial life. Seems obvious there was not enough dinosaur mass in any given place or time.
          That was long ago in a very radioactive world devoid of much sunlight because of the heavy composition of the "atmosphere".
          Nature does not care where the energy for biological life comes from. She will use what is available. She sequesters and isolates radiation with bilogical life. She blooms the tools as needed.
          It does not bode well for the current biologically adapted life to contaminate the environment with long lived radionuclides as we are doing. She will bring out her very fair cleanup crew…

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Kevin Blanch has some new data on Fukushima fallout

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU-WNnG8Pc

    I hope he scans it, puts it out so it is readable. CAUTION @6:43 malformed babies.

    Damn, my eyes got all watery trying to see the documents. Even if I could read Japanese, it would be tough. Some pages he doesn't hold the paper still or focus. Maybe he's trying to scare the nuclear industry with just a tease.

    Caution @4:03 full frontal nudity. Just kidding. You go Kevin! Nail them to the wall.

  • Jebus Jebus

    I posted the other annotated picture yesterday and this one confirms my thoughts then.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfXveDLUYAA2SQ6.jpg

    It's all just drama filled stages to divide the stooges…

  • Jebus Jebus

    The global problem of poisonous plutonium: Japan looks at its options

    "A minimum requirement for any form of political consent to onsite storage would be a clear commitment by the government to phase out all nuclear power by a fixed date, so that the final amount of waste can be determined and will not just keep growing, along with the burden on local people."

    https://nuclear-news.net/2018/06/11/the-global-problem-of-poisonous-plutonium-japan-looks-at-its-options/

    • Jebus Jebus

      "Prof. von Hippel explained that plutonium disposal is a global problem, with more than half of the existent separated plutonium being produced as a result of civilian reprocessing, the rest produced for military purposes. Disposing of the plutonium that had been produced for weapons during the cold war has been a huge headache for the United States with planned disposal by burning it as MOX fuel in commercial reactors proving hugely expensive. America has all but abandoned its half-built MOX plant and is now looking towards the ‘dilute and dispose’ option."

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        nuclear waste disposal is a free market and contributes to a countries gross national product.

        Deep mountain disposal is one consideration. Simply bury it so deep in the Alps that it will be safe and untouched for 20,000 years. Lots of money to be made

        But…what if some future civilization digs it up by accident, making earth into a dead zone? 10,000 years is a long time to keep records and monitor a poison deposit
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tunnels_in_the_Alps

  • Jebus Jebus

    Texas A&M System and partners chosen to run major national laboratory

    http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/484966441.html

    Probably some connections there…

  • Jebus Jebus

    Westinghouse Awarded $5 Million from U.S. Department of Energy

    Westinghouse Electric Company announced today that it was awarded $5 million in funding from the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE’s) Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (ARPA-E). The funding will be used to develop a self-regulating solid core block (SCB) that employs solid materials (instead of bulk liquid flow or moving parts) to inherently self-regulate the reaction rate in a nuclear reactor. The development of the SCB is a key component of Westinghouse’s eVinci TM micro reactor concept – a next-generation, very small modular reactor for decentralized generation markets.

    http://www.scnow.com/news/business/wire/article_11bd8628-c0a0-5859-9287-98030e79261b.html

  • Jebus Jebus

    Greed overwhelms the logic of a free market…

    FirstEnergy Solutions paid a lobbying firm nearly $1 million this year to help secure legislative bailouts for its struggling coal and nuclear power plants, a San Francisco-based watchdog agency says in a report published this week.

    http://www.ellwoodcityledger.com/news/20180606/report-energy-lobbyist-paid-1m-in-bailout-campaign/1

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      These people are pissed..rightfully so.

      https://www.nrdc.org/trump-lies

      • slandermen Deadboy

        That is a super handy reference. Thanks. It'll be useful for trolling.

        • slandermen Deadboy

          I have to say though, I'd have to modify some of that, considering the democrat bias.

          • slandermen Deadboy

            I understand it's a bit unrelated OT, but this for instance. I mean…

            "Even if Trump thinks climate change is a “hoax,” he’s in the minority. Here’s who does believe it’s a real danger that must be addressed:

            The U.S. government: EPA, DOI, USGS, DOD, NOAA, NASA, NIH, U.S. Forest Service

            Major global corporations: Ford, Walmart, McDonald’s, Google, Bank of America, IBM, and Trump’s pals at Goldman Sachs, among other familiar names

            World thought leaders: Pope Francis, Stephen Hawking, Bill Gates

            97 percent of climate scientists
            70 percent of Americans
            61 percent of Trump voters"

            Kinda hurts to read that.

            • slandermen Deadboy

              I was checking my trustometer and it registered basically zero, even combining all of those people and things mentioned.

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                Boils down to the size of the cess pool dead zones we humans want.

                Animals have no say in the size of the cess pool dead zones created by man.

                I am thinking we humans want and desire a dead planet..that can be the only understanding based on our combined actions.

                • slandermen Deadboy

                  Yeah I was just considering how hypocritical that list is and the chances of those people/companies being able to help or even truly intending to help.

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  None of this promoted life on this planet..thus death of this planet..must be the human long term goal.

                  A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 in 3 minutes
                  Video for Nuclear testing in 3 minutes youtube▶ 3:23
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=310-GYiitpM

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    There is a learning curve..the key is understanding the impact of that chosen learning curve.

                    Thinking the planet cares not what we humans learn or if we ever learn…and/but other biological life/species living here … do care.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      earth plant and animal are seen as a resource to be plundered, controlled and subjugated

                      Rape pillage and plunder is the exciting call of man which invigorates his blood and moves him to action

                      each year man throws one more battle axe into the body of nature, one more poison arrow, spills kills and consumes. I have no doubt, man will succeed! The dream of conquering the people, the land, and the seas has finally come true!!! All praise mammon!! All praise mammon!! Its a free market, all praise mammon!!

  • Jebus Jebus

    I can't make this up.

    N.C. State University researchers are heading up a consortium that's just gotten $3.4 million from the federal government to develop control systems for nuclear power plants that lean more heavily on artificial intelligence.

    http://www.heraldsun.com/news/business/article212560909.html

    I guess there is no other choice…

    • slandermen Deadboy

      Homer operating the thing wasn't bad enough, now Homer made a softwares for convenience.

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Stuxnet's twin app…

      Sucsnet.

      One helps you blow it up cause you 'think' your doing OK.

      The other blows it up for you, and you get the blame!

      Actually, many plants have AI…'learning programing'. It follows your moves, learns how to anticipate. They have been working it 20-30 years.

      Bad idea for nukes, they'll have 2 guys on a shift, like everyone else.

      • Jebus Jebus

        SIRI! Turn the pump on!

        I'm sorry, I do not understand, "turn the trump on."

        Would you like to see how to turn the trump on?

        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          Haha, it is only as smart as it 'learned'.

          Looking around the bludot, not real comforting.

          One thing AI/BotBoy does not have is 'fear'. It is a bad thing.
          Good operators have a healthy dose of fear, might kill their crew, break expensive stuff, get fired, destroy the place, etc.

          The last project had voice command/response…no control by voice, but highly automated/tracked/recorded. Well over 100,000hp total rotating equipment.

          You could ask any weather current/forecast, any of over 1000 readings(temps,pressures,flows,vol.,etc), dial any support/boss/wife with video, a bunch of stuff.

          None of it necessary to run a tight operation.

          A gizmo showcase. haha

  • HippieDog, the pre-uclear shill, is completely mucking up the General Nuclear thread.

    Hippie Dog
    June 10, 2018 at 7:10 pm

    So the decay chain iS what hurts you?
    NOOOOOO
    http://enenews.com/forum-general-nuclear-issues-discussion-thread-new-april-2016/comment-page-92#comment-904421

    "Isotopes of caesium. Caesium (55Cs; or cesium) has 40 known isotopes, making it, along with barium and mercury, the element with the most isotopes. The atomic masses of these isotopes range from 112 to 151. Only one isotope, 133Cs, is stable.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_caesium

    Inducing Cancer From Nuclear Decay Products

    “Even one neutron, alpha particle, or gamma ray is enough to cause a cancerous mutation in a gene that could one day develop into a metastasizing cancer.”

    http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2014/ph241/francis2/

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Well hecky dern… Perry, you old dog you… You CAN teach an old dog new tricks!

    http://nonuclearwasteaqui.org/2018/03/orano-wcs-aim-to-revive-spent-fuel-storage-project/

    New Areva changed its name to ORANO, FYI
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orano

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    WCS had planned a merger with EnergySolutions Inc. only to have it blocked almost a year ago by the US Department of Justice on antitrust concerns. https://texasenergyreport.com/blog/2018/03/21/west-texas-nuclear-waste-company-forms-jv-with-french-company/

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Very versatile, the SaphyRAD MS can be used for radiation exposure monitoring (dose and dose rate), as well as for radiation contamination detection. Its comprehensive range of probes allow the user to detect and measure alpha, beta, gamma and X-Ray radiations." I haven't found price.
    https://globalenergymedia.com/an-innovative-multi-probe-military-radiation-meter-for-harsh-environment-and-emergency-situations-saphyrad-ms-ex-dom-420/

  • Jebus Jebus

    That last one missed.

    Top U.S. energy regulators declined to endorse the notion that power grids face a national emergency during a Senate hearing Tuesday, tacitly rebuffing President Donald Trump’s argument to prop up struggling coal and nuclear plants.

    The five members of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission were testifying before the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee when asked by New Mexico Democrat Martin Heinrich if the decline in coal and nuclear electricity is putting the nation’s security at risk.

    “Do any of you believe that in the wholesale power markets we are facing an actual national security emergency at the moment?” Heinrich said. “Any one able to answer that with a ’yes?”’

    All five regulators remained silent.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-12/top-u-s-regulators-don-t-back-claim-that-grid-faces-emergency

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "The concept of a floating nuclear reactor is not a new. The United States was the first country to deploy a floating nuclear power plant in 1968. […] The Sturgis was to supply electrical power to the Panama Canal. The Sturgis operated only eight years before it was permanently closed as too expensive to maintain. In 1971, the U.S.-based Westinghouse Corporation briefly revived the concept building a central manufacturing facility in Florida for 1200 MWe Pressurized Water Reactors using a notoriously thin shelled containment structure. The reactor was to be placed on a barge and towed out to sea up where it would be moored off the coastline beyond controversial emergency planning zones. New Jersey utilities were the first to enthusiastically embrace the plan without fully appreciating the unique concerns the concept added to already apparent siting issues from land based reactors. Ship collisions, barges sinking, fishing ground impacts and a host of regulatory concerns clashed with national and international law and inter-agency authority including the US Coast Guard. The U.S. Government Accounting Office issued a report criticizing federal regulators for not even analyzing the impacts of meltdown through the barge on the ocean environment. It added up to failure with no utility orders, the unwillingness of states to site facilities in coastal waters and the failure of a government bailout to finance construction. " http://www.beyondnuclear.org/home/?currentPage=5

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "Russia's floating nukes to power oil and gas extraction in Arctic Ocean" —Article on Beyond Nuclear's website…. "The U.S. Government Accounting Office issued a report criticizing federal regulators for not even analyzing the impacts of meltdown through the barge on the ocean environment"

    Regulators get paychecks? Easy money!

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    What happens to a nuclear power plant barge in a tsunami? A typhoon?

    What a worry wart I am. I really need to lighten up. Think I'll throw a space blanket on the living room floor and build a bonfire there. Federal regulators said it was safe. At least while they were drunk and partying on all that cash I gave em.

    Yessir, just enjoying a little bonfire… kids are asleep upstairs. Nothing to worry about.

  • Volcano stuff has been a bit distracting, exciting stuff. I watched some old videos from the 1959 Eruption which was even more intense, but didn’t have the thousands of earthquakes that Hawaii now sees.

    Funny though….the “coverage” no on news seems like a poor second place compared to 1959 coverage that I saw. Back then EQ guy AND video guys were going into the “red zone” where they weren’t supposed to go to get real information.

    In 1959 they had fountains often 700 feet and sometimes 1200 feet. 2018 seeing more like 160 to 240 foot fountains.

    This 2018 YouTube is some real slice of life stuff. Thirdphaseofthemoon are kind of wacky “alien” guys but it’s cool seeing some people doing real reporting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_696Y58XouA

    some live streams
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlP-8JiKOS8

    USGS girl does an update everyday.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szkWReGJ9Hs

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Global warming caused scientists to create ozone-destroying chemicals. Or was it domoic acid? Reduction in ozone layer increases UV radiation, which damages phytoplankton and reduces fish production. WAIT! I thought that radiation was harmless like baby bananas and it's everywhere and we need more of it….not really

    https://youtu.be/mfOkD-rB5wk?t=930

    volcanos… does that mean dinosaurs are coming back? Well, there was Hillary and Trump, so yeah, stupidosauruses

  • Jebus Jebus

    Just think of it as tough love.

    Climate Science Special Report

    Fourth National Climate Assessment (NCA4), Volume I

    This report is an authoritative assessment of the science of climate change, with a focus on the United States. It represents the first of two volumes of the Fourth National Climate Assessment, mandated by the Global Change Research Act of 1990.

    https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

    I think it's about 500 pages…

  • Cesium Detected in Tokyo Bay Increased!

    JAPAN

    7th June 2018 – Study: Cesium from Fukushima flowed to Tokyo Bay for 5 years

    Extracts:

    Five months after disaster caused the triple meltdown at the plant, Yamazaki detected 20,100 becquerels of cesium per square meter in mud collected at the mouth of the Kyu-Edogawa river, which empties into Tokyo Bay.

    In July 2016, the study team detected a maximum 104,000 becquerels of cesium per square meter from mud collected in the same area of the bay, Yamazaki said.

    http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201806070041.html

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    “When people nationwide will know about the reality of radiation pollution exposure after 3.11, there are no people who will come to Fukushima prefecture.
    There is no report as to the fact that it can be dangerous. There is no news in Fukushima except that it doesn’t matter.”
    https://nuclear-news.net/2018/06/13/the-reality-of-fukushima-radiation-pollution-exposure/

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Scientists Concerned About Radioactive Pollution At Los Angeles Jewish Camp"
    Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/403091/scientists-concerned-about-radioactive-pollution-at-los-angeles-jewish/

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Nationally, pediatric cancer rates are rising. The National Cancer Institute estimates one out of 285 children in the United States will be diagnosed with cancer before their 20th birthday. And it’s not just cancer and autism on the rise. Auto-immune disease numbers are also climbing, according to national researchers.

    We are living in a toxic world that could be making all of us sick, particularly unborn fetuses, infants, and children whose organs and immune systems are not fully developed.

    On a daily basis we are exposed to a toxic soup of chemicals, and for those living near a nuclear plant, daily doses of low-level radiation of the kind released by atomic bombs. No level of continuous radiation can be considered safe, according to the National Academies of Science."
    https://www.app.com/story/opinion/columnists/2018/06/13/toxic-chemicals-nj/692643002/

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Is there radiation in California? (from Fukushima)
    The Government would like you to believe it’s not."
    https://oaklandmofo.com/blog/nuclear-fallout-radiation-japan-california

  • Jebus Jebus

    Lunar Warming

    A 40-year-old mystery about rising temperatures on the moon has been solved — and it was probably the Apollo astronauts' fault

    http://www.businessinsider.com/nasa-apollo-astronauts-warmed-the-moon-2018-6

    'Lost' NASA Tapes Show Humans Sort of Caused Global Warming on the Moon Too

    https://www.livescience.com/62805-moon-surface-warming-apollo-astronauts.html

    Seems everywhere we walk…

  • slandermen Deadboy

    Since it's somewhat related and because it's directly related to some government officials and a bunch of shit going on in america atm.

    https://holtecinternational.com/tag/smr/
    https://smrllc.com/

    • slandermen Deadboy

      "On February 14th 2018, GE Hitachi Nuclear Energy (GEH), Global Nuclear Fuel (GNF), Holtec International and SMR LLC announced a collaboration to advance the SMR‐160 small modular reactor. The SMR-160 is a single loop, 160 MWe pressurized light water reactor designed by Holtec to be “walk away” safe and commercially competitive."

  • Jebus Jebus

    SMR-160

    HOLTEC’S SMALL UNDERGROUND NUCLEAR REACTOR

    SMR-160 IS THE VERY EPITOME OF SAFETY

    http://www.uxc.com/smr/Library%5CDesign%20Specific/SMR-160%20(HI-SMUR)/Other%20Documents/SMR-160%20Brochure.pdf

    But… "HOLTEC’S SMALL UNDERGROUND NUCLEAR REACTOR"

    • slandermen Deadboy

      "SMR-160 IS THE VERY EPITOME OF SAFETY"

      Of course yes, flimsy holtec shit, garbage mafia-like management, GE and Hitachi. How does that not spell safety?

      "Designed to provide an unfailingly safe and secure source of clean energy from nuclear fission, SMR-160 incorporates passive features of its operation to ensure utmost safety and reliability. All safety systems are within containment making them secure from external threats."

      I'm quitting comedy now.

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