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51,104 comments to FORUM: Off-Topic Discussion Thread (Non-Nuclear Issues) — New as of January 2017

    • Why not the moon?
      mars is more sexy I guess.

      Think of the support the IIS needs.

      How could Mars be self sustainable, every effort at life will be hindered at every step of the way. We can barely live on earth now with all of numerous gifts we have been given.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        ape-man was not made to live on a planet with only 38% of the gravity. Thats not the only thing….the wrong atmosphere! The atmosphere of Mars is about 100 times thinner than Earth's, and it is 95 percent carbon dioxide. No ocean…they better start chem trails now to improve it. Plus mars is kind of tiny. Those talkers of mars colonization are simply crazy stupid or pulling peoples legs

        • I think some of it is very intentionally….at the top levels….we know we are fucking up the earth, and we know many of you know that we are fucking up the earth, but we want to put out an "option" for you so you don't have to think of how the earth is getting to a point of massive human die off.

          So let's pretend we have an option to saving the earth.

  • I bought the new Comey book because I want to know how the mind of a traitorous criminal works.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Humans are exponentially approaching peak planetary pollution.

    It will taper off after that…

  • razzz razzz

    'War & Who is the Aggressor?'

    "…Both Napoleon, Hitler, and Japan, all lost because they waged wars on too many fronts. When you piss off the world, you end up with too many enemies and the old saying that two enemies will unite whenever they have a common enemy. The lesson of the fall of the Athenian Empire is a blueprint of what is to come. There were internal battles politically between the oligarchy and Democracy the same as we have today between the Democrats (Oligarchy) and the Republicans (Democrats of old). They too brought charges against the leader of the Democrats, Perikles, showing that Athens was divided for their empire was too big and tempting for corruption…

    …It is a HUGE mistake to allow the military to dominate government and instigate this war over chemical weapons being used internally within Syria. By the UN’s definition, it is the USA who is the aggressor, not Syria, Russia, or China. The USA has few friends and to engage in war will only lead to the same conclusion that Athens suffered. Many outside the USA will see this a freedom from American aggression. Banning together will leave the USA in shambles and defeated. History stands as a blueprint upon which the future is determined."

  • Code sayeth
    generally speaking, you are under the rule of an overlord and a corporation owns your productivity…essentially your life output

    Dude that is way out there. Things suck but they are not nearly that bad. Agree that the "skim" operation is everywhere, with now Husband and Wife working, and kids in "schooling" earlier in life, indeed they need all the slaves working.

    Work is way effening overated, but back in the day on homestead type stuff…no one got off with a 2 or 3 hours day.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      stock, your comment that Im way out there is not well considered. to understand one has to look at the rise in productivity since the industrial revolution. Im not saying the current agri-biz is at all good, and that we shouldnt go back to a more personally labor intensive agricultural life style, but….my analysis is easily proved.

      'In the 2012 edition of Occupy Money Professor Margrit Kennedy shows that 35% to 40% of everything we buy goes to interest. This interest goes to bankers, financiers, and bondholders, who take a 35% to 40% cut of our GDP. That helps explain how wealth is systematically transferred from Main Street to Wall Street. The rich get progressively richer at the expense of the poor, not just because of “Wall Street greed” but because of the inexorable mathematics of our private banking system.'

      Thats only half the problem. The other is the profit driven capitalist system. Simply look at the price of goods vs cost to make and you will see that you only work 2 or 3 hours a day for your purchases…house, food, everything…and the rest is going to bankers and capitalists.

      Who owns your productivity? Your employer explicitly owns it..thats why its called 'wage slave'. You didnt see this so much because you were self employed. It wasnt always that way. 16 tons..I owe my soul to the company store

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        no doubt about it, your employer owns your output. You clock in on time or else…they own your time and your work. Nothing over the top about that realization, everybody knows it. But if you trace the ownership back to the top, you find about 150 to 700 corporations

        The 147 Companies That Control Everything

        the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich have taken a database listing 37 million companies and investors worldwide and analyzed all 43,060 transnational corporations and share ownerships linking them.

        They discovered that global corporate control has a dominant core of 147 firms radiating out from the middle.

      • Good information Code, But you don't need to be stuck in the usury trap. Nor do you need to "shop to you drop" and fully in debt on shit you don't truly need.

        Also true… the weak, and even the smart but gullible, will get sucked into the consumption propaganda meme.

        People don't have to choose that route. Get off the effing grid, take 2 years to grab back several essential freedoms.

        That is what I am saying. Also, work is effing overrated, LOL

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        I am all for folks being 'unproductive' for any other reason than their own 'self-benefit'. A 'frontiersman' for lack of better words.

        There a quite a few already, more to come for sure. They live in RV's, basements, off-grid, a thousand ways. Are these people selfish?

        The bummer is the +50% of society that can not live without input/support of the others. Their world will go to shit, the consumption/non-production, even to their own detriment, will be the undoing of the big picture.

        Can you have production/income/taxes/benefits..consumption?..without natural resource exploitation? How much to keep it all rolling?

        Funny the big picture is, I posed the question to the 'wiener dog' this AM, she looked at me like I am stupid. She has very it good.

        I suspect the majority population would give me the same response.
        Human warehousing is/will continue to be a failure.
        Good Luck to us all.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          howdy AirSep

          "Can you have production/income/taxes/benefits..consumption?..without natural resource exploitation? How much to keep it all rolling?"

          Some resources could renew as fast as their consumption. Bamboo comes to mind, of course vegetables, sunshine, water in theory. If population didnt grow, we could recycle a lot of the metals and minerals

          I see the warehousing of people, I take that to mean their unproductive lifestyles shoehorned into low cost living circumstances, as a result of the dysfunction of capitalism.

          In an agrarian scenario, there is always productive work available for everyone. Fulfillment of the necessities of life spring from it. IF clever ape-men could mechanize that Tuscany ideal, less and less work would be required while still maintaining the same benefit and support.

          In a futuristic vision, robots could be the ultimate slaves of people, liberating them to pursue higher education, recreation, design, music, arts etc.

          The problems are the robber baron, the real estate tycoon, the corporate owner. They disenfranchise the children of the earth. They create a structure for civil life and survival that becomes more difficult to utilize and adapt to. Wage slaves get marginalized right out of society AND the natural world

          The world now is one big keep out sign, with a parks and a payment kiosk. We are prisoners, kept in, kept out

  • Code say

    note that neoliberal is not the same as liberal. Chomsky; 'How elites on both sides of the political spectrum have undermined our social, political, and environmental commons.'

    Peoples partisan affiliation is virtually ludicrous. Indeed, part of the indoctrination
    For sure the "2 party system" as watchdogs on the other party was one of the great lies we were exposed to in maybe the 2nd grade.

    And for sure Establishment Republicans and Democrats are really the same swamp critters. So calling political affiliation as ludicrous, does not stand on solid ground.

    There are substantial differences between factions, so aligning with one or two makes sense, even if the alignment is not perfect. Vote idea, not party.


    Nutritional Holes

    Dr. Chris Busby, in 2012, was recommending magnesium and calcium supplementation to everyone concerned about the radiation exposure from Fukushima.

    "Deficiencies of calcium, potassium and other minerals make the body more likely to absorb radioactive elements".
    Dr. Sircus

    Cesium-137 – mimics potassium
    Strontium-90 – mimics calcium
    Iodine-131 – mimics iodine

    This is a crucial point our government and doctors hate to address because it undermines the prevailing medical paradigm, a paradigm that puts you and your loved ones in your graves rather than promoting your health and longevity.

    With today’s pollution of chemicals and heavy metals, the increasing radiation coming from Japan and other nuclear threats—toxic medical and dental treatments—combined with the vastly decreased quality of our foods, it is vitally important that we learn how to confront these threats with some new medical principles and practices.

    • PlowboyGrownUp

      GOM, better read some opposing views on that calcium, on how much to take. I suspect that it caused me a kidney stone once.

      • GOM GOM

        Aleksandrowicz et al in Poland, conclude that inadequacy of magnesium and antioxidants are important risk factors in predisposing to leukemias.

        What is going to keep you alive and well nutritionally in difficult times are the basic elements that strengthen us from the foundational level of physiology.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        plowboy, biology is complex, kidney stones are complex. From what I gather, calcium ingestion is not a high risk factor for stones, but rather the complex absorption and metabolic handling of it. Generally, dietary calcium reduces kidney stone risk. It binds oxalate.
        Patients who consumed a diet with a normal calcium intake (i.e., 1,200 mg/d) plus a low animal protein intake had a 51% lower incidence of recurrent stones than patients who consumed low (400 mg/d) calcium diets

        Major factors for reducing stone formation, you probably know;

        Drink more water,
        eat more citrate
        eat sufficient magnesium
        Urine pH should not be too acidic, …nor too base

        vit C supplementation is said to increase risk for oxalic stone formation


    Radioactive Earth:
    The Power Structure’s Criminal Contamination Of Our Planet

    "Those 'in power' have never had any regard for the irreparable decimation they are inflicting on our planet.

    From the current and ongoing blatant toxic spraying of our skies to the endless trail of nuclear debris that have been scattered all over the globe, we are in real trouble. Many have never known what happened to all the nuclear waste from countless insane tests in the South Pacific, but they may soon find out as the insanity comes back to haunt us".
    Dane Wigington

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "The NYT war on SCIENCE… watch how irresponsible propaganda gets paraded around as “science” when it’s actually pure bunk"


    MIT Researcher: Glyphosate Will Cause Half Of All Children To Be Autistic By 2025. Yeah, Sure.

    The 'yeah, sure' remark is from the author of this GOVERNMENT SPONSORED PROPAGANDA. 'JOSH BLOOM'..(who looks Indian-India)

    Josh Bloom. Senior Director of Chemical and Pharmaceutical Sciences. Dr. Josh Bloom earned a Ph.D. in organic chemistry from the University of Virginia.

    The American Council on Science and Health.

    Scattered thinking and opinions that appear to coincide with any growing 'truth'.
    Like, why are so many young women having 'Down like babies'?

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Wish the links could be found to all the stories out of Argentina on glyphosate. There are horrible birth defects in humans and animals there from it. Aborted babies and animals. It's bad.

      I'm sitting right in the middle of Monsteranto Central here in Woodland, CA now. They provide most of the funding for UC Davis agricultural research. Too bad, it's a good university. Big money corrupts it.

      I'll be posting more on a related subject soon. There is a big ag research (R&D) facility planned nearby. It may be located about 1/2 mile from my house. I'm sure Monsteranto, Syngenta, Pioneer Hybrid, and all the other "players" as well as UC Davis researchers are just salivating.

      We could use the diversification of our tax base here for sure, but I have concerns about potential safety issues. The idea of sitting downwind from those facilities isn't particularly exciting. It may be five years or more before this happens. But it is concerning.


    Dec 2017-Death in Porter Ranch

    Mysterious Illnesses Are Plaguing People In California After A Massive Gas Leak

    We warned them. We pleaded with them to get out. We provided evidence detrimental to them. A Doctor advised them to "move".

    And now..

    Two years after the largest natural gas leak in US history, people living near the California facility say they're suffering from a variety of illnesses.

    Aliya is only 7 years old. She was recently diagnosed with Leukemia. A rare form of cancer known as acute myeloid leukemia.
    …"an official link, if any, between the leak and many of the ongoing health issues remains unknown"

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      100,000 metric tons of methane. How much Radon/lead?

      The radon has/will decay to lead.

      222Rn, 3.82 days, alpha decaying to…
      210Pb, which has a much longer half-life of 22.3 years, beta decaying to…

      So what they did/do not inhale, will turn to dust, for quite some time.
      Maybe someone can track the fallout zone.

      It does heat your home/water, cook your food, produce a large portion of the electric in SoCal. Always a tradeoff. They can't survive without it.

      The cost of modern conveniences. It will be high for some.
      Cancers and cognitive maladies, seems likely. Very high volumes of gas consumed, high concentrations of people. No surprise.

      • PlowboyGrownUp

        Another gas leak there in 2017, 2 min video "New Gas Leak Reignites Fear Among Porter Ranch Residents"

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Not surprising. Friends of ours moved from that area right after the gas leak. They were in Simi Valley. An aunt by marriage lives there. I hope she is OK.

          Sent our friends documentation on this story and showed thenm how methane was being released from gas mains (leaks?) all over the surrounding valley. People down there probably got dosed big time.

          Our friends were struggling with work at the time. Thankfully (in an odd way) one of the parents became ill and they moved back north. I was so glad. The parent recovered too, which was a blessing.

          Yeah, it's bad…. we talked about there being uranium and radium in natural gas. Lots of it is underground and it's common to find it in areas where there is natural gas. We are really careful now about running our kitchen fans so that we never get the stuff floating around in the house….

          Heaters are not in our living space. The downside of natural gas. It's really sad hearing all those people are ill, especially children. Animals died down there, too.

          Benzene is also bad, toxic stuff.

        • GOM GOM

          Yes PGU..

          That may be the 'necessary' gas fill or reload into well/hole. Looks like it came out in other wells thus filling the air again. Late 2017? Need to go back to the article, can't t remember. But I DO REMEMBER the choking sensation, taste, headaches..from Macondo. And she was 100 miles out.

          Geezus Cripes, are these people's 'stuff' worth more than human life? Or a limited lifetime of serious illness?

          This would make an outstanding thread.

      • PlowboyGrownUp

        Isn't the San Andreas fault nearby?

      • Ya Air, just realized all that fracking bring up a LOT more radionuclides than just normal gas production. Gas delivery trucks, esp at the valve area, are super effing hot radioactivity, google that stuff.

        A great lie that has been covered up, lets uncover it. Push to renewables is essential.

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        Too close to ignore, but what are they going to do? Get ready I guess

        Amazing numbers with 25 million people in SoCal.
        They 'lost' 100,000 metric tons with the leak.

        100,000×2200= 220,000,000pounds x 20,551btu = 4,500,000,000,000btu

        4.5 trillion btu's 'worth' of gas lost. At Porter Ranch.

        California(40mil) gas consumed 2015… 2,400 trillion btu.

        6.5 trillion btu's a day. Global warming? 😆

        So, in round-about numbers, SoCal lost 1 day of gas at Porter Ranch.
        About. They use a lot. Probably why the 'authorities' are so ambivalent about it.

        They have 'burned' what, about 700 times that since?

        That is a lot of exhaust, and heat, and whatever else is in it.

        The PSmag link…
        "Their final count: over 97,000 metric tons, enough to do the same damage to the climate as 572,000 passenger cars over a year's worth of driving."

        They 'burn' that much everyday. About. Bummer.
        Better than raw methane I suppose.
        Although 365 times as much a year is not all that comforting.

      • GOM GOM


        Can can shed light on why there is Uranium in their hair shaft?

        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          It would take a lot of math, but, the truth of 'what' is in the gas is the root of the problem. They need to test before it is stored, then as it is used. Aliso is a storage field, and there are others. A lot of the gas comes by pipeline, many locations, out of state, etc.

          This is not my field of expertise. But.

          California consumes 1.5x the total Aliso blowout…EVERY DAY.
          SoCal, maybe 50%.

          They have 'consumed' more than 1000 times the blowout amount, since the blowout occurred. 500x the blowout, a year.


          Main article: Decay chain § Uranium series

          222Rn belongs to the radium and uranium-238 decay chain, and has a half-life of 3.8235 days. Its four first products (excluding marginal decay schemes) are very short-lived, meaning that the corresponding disintegrations are indicative of the initial radon distribution. Its decay goes through the following sequence:[28]
          222Rn, 3.82 days, alpha decaying to…
          218Po, 3.10 minutes, alpha decaying to…
          214Pb, 26.8 minutes, beta decaying to…
          214Bi, 19.9 minutes, beta decaying to…
          214Po, 0.1643 ms, alpha decaying to…
          210Pb, which has a much longer half-life of 22.3 years, beta decaying to…
          210Bi, 5.013 days, beta decaying to…
          210Po, 138.376 days, alpha decaying to…
          206Pb, stable.
          The lead (Pb) is only a poison at this point. 😆

          The very fact there is Radon, means Uranium is present.
          So, Uranium on yer noggin? How could it not be?
          How much and on how many?

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      GOM, thank you. That is a mess. We have a lot of family and friends down there. It's very concerning. Thankfully most of them are not close by. But the earthquake risk alone makes it concerning.

      More gas leaks there? Wonderful. I feel for the people who own homes down there.

      • GOM GOM


        Thanks for responding. I appreciate your use of "down there". The wind makes sure these nasty elements get scattered around. When I saw that infared pic from the video at that time, I just stared at it remembering the day it was 'live'.

        They are close by. The people are underneath the 'shelf' of the hillside. At even 20 miles, if they stay, they die. Porter Ranch is 1 mile away from Hell itself.

        The article blatantly states death and dying there. I don't get it.

        Again, 100 miles from Macondo gave me
        headaches, burning eyes, nausea, ect, ect. That was oil in the water. Not a deadly fog of gas 1 mile away raining on me.

        We evacuated quickly.




    What Do Zuckerberg and Fukushima Have In Common? Destruction of the Vitality of Our World

    Lot's Wife writes below, LF sure can turn a phrase, although I would like to see a little more Jackboot, Goosestep, and of course Cow Bell, we need more Cow Bell.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    " By RT
    April 13, 2018 "Information Clearing House" – The Russian Defense Ministry has presented what it says is proof that the reported chemical weapons attack in Syria was staged. It also accused the British government of pressuring the perpetrators to speed up the “provocation.”

    Breaking news "We" just launched missiles on Syria.

  • Jebus Jebus


    Again, don't mind US, just fighting for raw materials.

    Energy. Money. Greed.

    It's insane just because enough falls each day for all for free…

    • danger kitty danger kitty

      So, looks like "…liberated AND eliminated " it is.
      With "…righteous power.", yet. National security, ya know.
      He ended his speech by passing the buck for cleaning up the mess to 'our' arab allies… and 'God'.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Quite a show they put on for those resources..hey our kids kids are paying for it all.

      Everybody is getting paid today!

      • DUDe DUDe

        ‘Huge Explosions’ in Damascus as AIRSTRIKES fall on Syria after Donald Trump announcement
        LOUD blasts have been heard in the Syrian capital of Damascus following airstrikes by US, UK and France in a co-ordinated response to a suspected chemical attack by the Assad regime.

        In an address from the White House Donald Trump said: “A short time ago, I ordered the United States Armed Forces to launch precision strikes on targets associated with the chemical weapons capabilities of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad,”

        At least six loud explosions were heard in Damascus, and smoke was seen rising over the city even while Trump delivered his remarks.

        Syrian state TV said the army’s air defences shot down 13 missiles.

        The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said a scientific research centre and military bases in Damascus were struck, as were the Syrian army’s Republican Guard and 4th Division, elite units of the Syrian military.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Im already excited to find out if Kellogg Root and Brown or Halliburton will win the reconstruction bid. Or if they plan on leaving it as is. I smell the glory of free tax money!

          • DUDe DUDe

            Coalition of false flag forcked tongues warcriminals..with the taxes you wring out of me..burn in the hell you are creating for everyone else..praying every second i all look like maggots that escaped a graveyard after an earthquake..

            Lavrov: Swiss lab says ‘BZ toxin’ used in Salisbury, {{{{{{{{Not Produced In Russia, Was In US & UK Service}}}}}}}}

            The substance used on Sergei Skripal was an agent called BZ, according to Swiss state Spiez lab, the Russian foreign minister said. The toxin was never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states.

            Sergei Skripal, a former Russian double agent, and his daughter Yulia were poisoned with an incapacitating toxin known as 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate or BZ, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, citing the results of the examination conducted by a Swiss chemical lab that worked with the samples that London handed over to the Organisation for the Prohibition of the Chemical Weapons (OPCW).

            © Reuters UK appears to be ‘destroying’ evidence in Skripal case – Russian envoy

            The Swiss center sent the results to the OPCW. However, the UN chemical watchdog limited itself only to confirming the formula of the substance used to poison the Skripals in its final report without mentioning anything about the other facts presented in the Swiss document, the Russian foreign minister added. He went on to say that Moscow would ask the OPCW about its decision to not include any other…

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            No Health Care for any of you!

            An updated U.S. Air Force estimate, approved by the Pentagon's top acquisition official in July, puts the cost to design and build a fleet of new nuclear-capable cruise missiles at $10.8 billion, a source familiar with the program told Arms Control Today.Sep 1, 2016
            New Cruise Missiles to Cost $11 Billion | Arms Control Association

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Interesting..appears nobody was listening.


            • The real key to peace? The real way to stop most all the threats we see today in short order?

              Something American politicians have never understood about foreign affairs is this simple (and primary) principle…

              If you want to stop a fundamentally flawed system, simply step out of it's way and it will shut itself down.

              That's right!!!!

              So simply leave the flawed system to itself and it will eventually dissolve from within all by itself.

              It's just like most diseases, feed the good cells the right nutrients while removing any nutrients for the bad cells and the disease must (and will) eventually yeald to the pressures.

              And we must also use the second principle of truth to assure this works and that is…

              Clean up your own backyard before you complain about your neighbors yards…

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              I paid, and my fellow americans paid for every last cent of the salaries of that mass of corrupt effing killers in government. And we paid for every bomb, drone and fighter plane they send somewhere in our constant control trip/killing spree

              They wont stop until the people stop paying them. And the people will never stop paying them, so in that regard, the public is to blame. Of course if you stop paying they take your stuff and put you in prison. So the first stupidity was giving away your power and putting it in the hands of people you dont know and cant control. The second stupidity was continuing to think that is normal, or a good thing

              now if you say this; that the public must stop funding the government until they become servants instead of masters, people will think you are a radical, a dangerous radical who should maybe even go to prison for treason or something

              This state of idiocy was brought on by centuries of mental programming by kings and rulers who would torture, burn, behead, cut your skin off, pull your arms and legs from your body, and quite a long list, including roasting in hell for eternity whicy people took seriously. The media pushed the narrative ever since there was media and there was always media. This is called indoctrination. And you paid for every bit of it.

              You paid someone to indoctrinate you, subordinate, control, subdue, make you powerless. You paid for the propaganda, you paid for the war, the torture of you and your loved…

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Anti-GMO activist found dead in hotel pool, hours before planned delivery of 200,000 petition signatures to the EPA"
    Is it swimming weather there?

  • Trump’s Company Is Suing Towns Across the Country to Get Breaks on Taxes — “Trump, Inc.”

    Why is Trump’s business arguing its properties are worth just a fraction of what Trump has claimed they are on his own financial disclosures? To save on taxes.
    April 11, 4 a.m. EDT

  • razzz razzz

    Martin Armstrong's "The Solution" (video)

  • Is down? I can't find this article:

    Fukushima Nuclear Disaster Created Radioactive Sulfur, Acid Rain …
    Jan 6, 2017 – Fukushima Nuclear Disaster Created Radioactive Sulfur, Acid Rain, Acid Ocean And Radioactive Chlorine, Which Reached The USA, Nuclear Power Has Huge Negative Externalities In …. PT March 21, 2016 Yoichi Shimatsu talks about the never seen before radioactive soup at Fukushima in this video ..

    • Ya, and it the "first one" don't worry there could be more, because it would be caused by the "secrecy" necessary during Manhattan to make sure our enemies didn't discover how to make bombs, by capturing and analyzing our waste barrels. They don't say that, but that is the logical conclusion of the "secrecy meme"….none of which is logical.

      You irresponsible blow em up boyz just threw all the shit into barrels in haste and zeal, and now you could blame it on Nazi Germany or the sneaky Japanese.

      They mention WIPP but fail to mention the $2.5B damage and untold costs of delays. I wonder if that Kardashian really got cheated on? Distraction.

  • DUDe DUDe

    Not for the better…

    April 13, 2018
    An Oceanic Problem: the Atlantic Overturning Current is Slowing

    "The Atlantic Overturning Current is part of a worldwide twisted loop of ocean water, called the thermohaline cycle (thermo = heat, haline = salt), which emerges very salty and warm out of the Gulf of Mexico, travels north as a surface current along the east coast of North America, veers east in the North Atlantic toward Europe, then loops back west to a region just south of Greenland where it cools and sinks to the ocean floor – because it has become denser than the surrounding and less salty North Atlantic waters (colder water is denser than warmer water, and saltier water is denser than fresher water of equal temperature). The dense highly salted descending water then runs as a cold deep ocean current south along the east coast of South America, and continues in a complicated path along the ocean floor into the Pacific Ocean, where it warms and eventually rises to become a surface current of more buoyant less salty water. This current distributes solar heat collected by ocean waters in tropical latitudes to higher latitudes (closer to the poles).

    In 2004, Peter Schwartz and Douglas Randall described the thermohaline cycle this way: “In this thousand-year cycle, water from the surface in tropical areas becomes more saline through evaporation. When it circulates to the poles and becomes cold (“thermo”), the greater density still present from higher salt (“haline”)…

    • DUDe DUDe

      the greater density still present from higher salt (“haline”) concentration causes the water to sink to great depths. As with most large-scale geological processes, the thermohaline cycle is not thoroughly understood. Wallace Broecker has been studying the cycle for decades and, according to the December 1996 issue of Discover magazine, he has shown that the thermohaline cycle has not always been in operation, and that it has a strong effect on global climate.”

      "The climatic cooling that might occur in the Northern Hemisphere as a result of a collapse of the thermohaline cycle could be like the century-long period 8,200 years ago with temperature 5 °F (2.8 °C) colder, or the 13 century-long period 12,700 years ago with temperature 27 °F (15 °C) colder. The shift to colder climate could occur as rapidly as 5 °F (2.8 °C) of cooling per decade. So, the world could plunge into a new Ice Age within a period of twenty years."

  • SadieDog

    “Longtime late-night radio host Art Bell, best known for his unsettling conspiracy theories, died Friday at his Pahrump home. He was 72.
    Bell was awake when most of the country was asleep, sharing his fascination with the unexplained — Bigfoot, UFOs, alien abductions and crop circles — on his nighttime paranormal-themed show, “Coast to Coast AM.” He was his own producer, engineer and host.”

    • SadieDog

      Was he real or memorex? I dunno. But he did talk about a lot of stuff way before the internet. Now we are stuck with Alex Jones and George Noory. 🙁

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Don't think I have had many folks who have rode with me at night, through the middle of Nevada, 0 traffic for hours at times, and listen to Art for very long. Funny, other than nothing, it was about it most of the time. Apparently, Art scares the shit out of some folks. 🙂

      Sometimes shadows look like elephants/gargoyles, haha, maybe an owl divebombs your headlights chasing a kangaroo rat.

      Good times.

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    what americans believe

    Americans believe in a hard days work and a well deserved beer and the ballgame on the weekend and kicking butt.

    We believe in our freedom and spreading the freedom of democracy to other countries with our men in uniform.

    We put our faith in God, knowing he will forgive us for our sins and protect us from evil and/or atheists.

    We believe Trump probably should have paid Stormy Daniels to keep quiet out of his own pocket, and that he should have kept doing her for at least a week or two and given her a lexus because every man knows a one night stand when you already have a hot wife and a playboy bunny is tacky. Of course we know the libs will jump on any excuse to get rid of our sitting president so they can ruin the country.

    Americans believe in granddad, apple pie, kids playing in the lawn and kicking butt when we have to. We believe in country and doing the line dance to the boot shuffle butt kicking boogy with a beer in our hands

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Americans believe you have the right to your own beliefs. Like, some people like worcestershire sauce instead of Heins…now thats wierd but to each his own. If youre liberal, think what you want to, just dont get too close to our children.

      Liberals think the far right is ruining our country while conservatives believe the liberals are and the alt left think the alt right is, but everybody agrees terrorism N Korea and potentially Russia are the big threats and that we have to kick their butts

      We believe in a strong defense because people who speak those foreign languages are naturally untrustworthy and envy our freedom which is precisely why we have to kick their butts

      America was built on immigration, but enough is enough. If you want to work our farms youre gonna have to pay taxes like everybody else.

      America knows right from wrong and thats why we know were right. We believe in rulalaw, Judge Judy, angels and obeying authority. A quarter of us believe the sun revolves around the Earth. Thats fine, whatever. We believe in equality and equal opportunity, despite the incredible and expanding wealth disparity. We believe in our right to have guns unless you arent a criminal.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        American women believe porn is degrading to women and that they only do it to support their drug habit. The men believe in porn too, and think its probably right to cut back to an hour or two a day.

        Americans believe in the two party system, checks and balances and kicking butt. Kicking the butt of Muslims unless youre a Saudi, then youre ok. We believe if its bad, kick its butt, if it feels good, then go kick some butt.

        Half of us believe Jesus is going to return and kick some butt. Beyonce wears rapture sunglasses…we should all be prepared for it

        We believe in war to protect peace, we believe in enforcing freedom, Invading to liberate, we believe you can lift yourself off the ground using financial leverage, we believe wage slavery is freedom and ignorance is strength and anyway there is the rapture

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    sung to "I feel for you Chaka Khan'

    I Feel For You
    Neo Con
    Neo, Neo, Neo Con, Real Con
    Neo Con, Such a Con, Neo Con
    Neo Con, let me rock you
    Shock and Awe, Neo Con
    Shell Shock, double talk, that's all I wanna do
    Neo Con, let me stock you
    Treasury Stock, Yes We Can
    Im like a peacock, Ill be your war hawk
    Neo Con let me tell you what I wanna do
    Do you feel for me, the way I feel for you?
    Neo Con let me tell you what I wanna do
    I wanna deal witchoo, trust me, wanna whore for you too
    Let me sell you my arms, laser guided charms, Con
    'Cause you know that I'm the one with a drone swarm, Con
    I'll make you more than just a warriors dream
    I wanna double talk for you, Con baby, 'cause we make a dream team
    Let me tomahawk you, restock you
    Mother, baby, you can kill them too
    You get a warm feeling inside
    when the atom bomb clock is ticking
    and its two mintues to global suicide
    I wouldn't lie to you, baby
    It's mainly a money thing
    This cash is all free tax money baby
    Just think of the wealth war will bring
    Ill steal for you
    I'll even kill for you
    I deal for you
    I think I love you
    Neo Con, let me rock you
    Let me stock you, Neo Con
    shock and awe Neo Con, let me deal for you
    Neo Con, heres a rocket for you
    Lets kick some butt, Neo Con
    A precision strike, on the chopping block
    Neo Con Neocon
    Oh ooh
    Yes sir, one more time

  • DUDe DUDe

    U.S. Wars and Hostile Actions: A List

    Since World War II, during a supposed golden age of peace, the United States military has killed or helped kill some 20 million people, overthrown at least 36 governments, interfered in at least 84 foreign elections, attempted to assassinate over 50 foreign leaders, and dropped bombs on people in over 30 countries. The United States is responsible for the deaths of 5 million people in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, and over 1 million just since 2003 in Iraq.

    For the past almost 16 years, the United States has been systematically destroying a region of the globe, bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, and Syria, not to mention the Philippines. The United States has “special forces” operating in two-thirds of the world’s countries and non-special forces in three-quarters of them.

    The U.S. government as of 2017 provided military aid to 73% of the world’s dictatorships.

  • DUDe DUDe

    The Most Important Climate Treaty You’ve Never Heard Of

    This unsung treaty limits pollutants that increase global warming or hurt human health. Its latest update—which adds black carbon—could be ratified this year.

    Raise a hand if you've heard of the Gothenburg Protocol.

    No? Well, you're in good company. This treaty has been called an "unsung hero" in the fight against air pollution and climate change. It may be unknown in the United States, but it is a landmark international agreement, setting limits on how much black carbon and other pollutants countries can emit.

    Black carbon, or soot, is seen as a unique danger to the climate because its ability to accelerate warming in the atmosphere is many times stronger than carbon dioxide. It also speeds up the melting of sea ice. This double-whammy is responsible for a half a degree Celsius of warming in the Arctic so far.

  • DUDe DUDe

    Mapped: Cambridge Analytica’s Ties to the Fossil Fuel Industry

    Revelations continue to emerge about Cambridge Analytica, a political consultancy that has found itself embroiled in a scandal around data privacy and electoral manipulation.

    Three whistleblowers have gone public in the Guardian and Observer to outline how Cambridge Analytica used Facebook data to influence the outcomes of the US presidential election and Brexit referendum.

    DeSmog UK has previously mapped how the company ties to climate science denial through its Brexit and Trump connections. Now, Nafeez Ahmed over at Motherboard has outlined how Cambridge Analytica has ties to the fossil fuel industry.

    Based on that research, it's only a few steps between the company and some of the world's biggest coal and oil companies, many of which have had a revival since the election of Donald Trump. It's only a couple more steps to tie those connections to the already well-established web of power lobbying for Brexit.

  • DUDe DUDe

    Should invent the same for all our manmade Planetkillers especially nuclear..

    New satellite to spot planet-warming industrial methane leaks

    Multimillion dollar project will scan and make public methane leaks from oil and gas plants that are a major contributor to global warming

    Methane leaking from oil and gas facilities around the world – a major contributor to global warming – is set to be spotted from space.

    The Environmental Defense Fund (EDF) has announced it aims to launch a satellite called MethaneSAT by 2021 to scan the globe and make major leaks public. That information will then enable governments to force action, EDF hopes. Building and launching the satellite will cost tens of millions of dollars, but EDF says it has already raised most of the money.

    Methane is a potent greenhouse gas, 80 times more powerful than carbon dioxide in the short term, and is responsible for about a fifth of human-caused climate change. The oil and gas industry is to blame for about a third of anthropogenic methane emissions, from fracking and other exploration sites, and from leaky pipelines.

  • DUDe DUDe

    Alarmed conservationists call for urgent action to fix 'America's wildlife crisis'

    One-third of species are vulnerable to extinction, a crisis ravaging swaths of creatures, conservationists say in call to fund recovery plans

    An extinction crisis is rippling though America’s wildlife, with scores of species at risk of being wiped out unless recovery plans start to receive sufficient funding, conservationists have warned.

    One-third of species in the US are vulnerable to extinction, a crisis that has ravaged swaths of creatures such as butterflies, amphibians, fish and bats, according to a report compiled by a coalition of conservation groups. A further one in five species face an even greater threat, with a severe risk of being eliminated amid a “serious decline” in US biodiversity, the report warns.

    “America’s wildlife are in crisis,” said Collin O’Mara, chief executive of the National Wildlife Federation. “Fish, birds, mammals, reptiles and invertebrates are all losing ground. We owe it to our children and grandchildren to prevent these species from vanishing from the earth.”

    “This loss of wildlife has been sneaking up on us but is now like a big tsunami that is going to hit us,” said Thomas Lovejoy, a biologist at George Mason University. Lovejoy was consulted on the study and said it “captures the overall degradation of American nature over recent decades, rather than little snapshots”.


  • DUDe DUDe

    Too late..

    April 05, 2018
    The Bayer-Monsanto Merger Is Bad News for the Planet
    Bayer and Monsanto have a long history of collusion to poison the ecosystem for profit. The Trump administration should veto their merger not just to protect competitors but to ensure human and planetary survival.

    Two new studies from Europe have found that the number of farm birds in France has crashed by a third in just 15 years, with some species being almost eradicated. The collapse in the bird population mirrors the discovery last October that over three quarters of all flying insects in Germany have vanished in just three decades. Insects are the staple food source of birds, the pollinators of fruits, and the aerators of the soil.

    The chief suspect in this mass extinction is the aggressive use of neonicotinoid pesticides, particularly imidacloprid and clothianidin, both made by German-based chemical giant Bayer. These pesticides, along with toxic glyphosate herbicides (Roundup), have delivered a one-two punch against Monarch butterflies, honeybees and birds. But rather than banning these toxic chemicals, on March 21st the EU approved the $66 billion merger of Bayer and Monsanto, the US agribusiness giant producing Roundup and the genetically modified (GMO) seeds that have reduced seed diversity globally. The merger will make the Bayer-Monsanto conglomerate the largest seed and pesticide company in the world, giving it enormous power to control farm practices, putting private…

  • SadieDog

    Worried about filing your taxes? Fuck ‘em. Taxman – Junior Parker ,

  • DUDe DUDe

    Good fastgrowing environmental cleaners..

    Mitch McConnell — yes, that Mitch McConnell — just introduced a bill to legalize hemp
    The bill would not legalize marijuana for recreational or medical uses, but would allow nonpsychoactive forms of cannabis.

    The top Republican in the US Senate wants to legalize hemp.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell introduced a bill on Thursday that would remove federal barriers to hemp, which is derived from the cannabis plant but, as a nonpsychoactive substance, can’t get someone high. Hemp, instead, is typically used for its fiber to make all kinds of products — food, paper, cardboard, carpets, clothes, rope, and more.

    Hemp has historically been banned under federal drug laws that also prohibit marijuana. As Tom Angell reported at Forbes, the Hemp Farming Act of 2018 wouldn’t legalize pot for recreational or medical uses at the federal level, where psychoactive weed remains illegal for all purposes. It would only legalize hemp.

    McConnell said last month that he hopes hemp “can become sometime in the future what tobacco was in Kentucky’s past.” As Don Sergent reported for Kentucky news outlets, some farmers in the state are similarly hoping that hemp can make up for the losses they’re now seeing in tobacco as the nation has realized the health risks posed by cigarettes.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      A problem with that, from my perspective, is the proposed law doesn't make allowance for CBD produced from hybrid cannabis plants. Those are the ones with arguably the highest medicinal value. Not the "industrial hemp" type plants used to produce CBD.

      There is a huge cottage industry growing in California around medicinal use of hemp/cannabis. It would be productive for society to allow this to happen.

      Big pharma and big oil (and the constellation of industries affiliated with them) can be expected to resist.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Case in point, hybrid high-cannabinoid (CBD) strains like Charlotte's Web, Ringo's Gift, Cannatonic, etc. Many are very low in THC or have relatively low THC, so they aren't necessarily psychoactive. They appear to be more effective medicinally than the industrial hemp CBD derivatives. Or so the cannabinoid experts have said.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      It would be a really great idea to legalize hemp. Would like to get a set of hemp bed sheets, for example, w/o paying hundreds of dollars for them. And get a new hemp T-shirt. Hemp is great stuff. Makes some of the best fabric in the world too. Resists rot, mold, degradation, extremely strong and durable, breathable fiber.

      Hemp is a great source of biofuel and high-Omega 3 oil too.

      We eat a lot of organic hemp oil and hemp seed. Hemp seed is a very good source of protein too. Provides lasting energy and has a good balance of Omega 3-6-9 oils.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Hemp oil makes a really good base for salad dressings. It has a wonderful nutty taste and aroma.

        Ho out, time to go back to work.

        Cheers & have a blessed day.


    Times Up.. We've had a good run.

    The Medea alternative view of our ongoing accelerating extinction.

    This stands in stark contrast to James Lovelock's Gaia hypothesis–the idea that life sustains habitable conditions on Earth. … According to the Medea hypothesis, it does.

    Peter Ward demonstrates that all but one of the mass extinctions that have struck Earth were caused by life itself.

    • earthsmith earthsmith

      First and foremost…..BS. From a comment about the Medea hypothesis: " Earth needs a management team—we humans have to take up the job."—Chris McKay, NASA Ames Research Center"….
      Earth isn't the problem, it knows full well what it's up too.
      Bumble fudge human who thinks they can outwit or even manage nature??? Yeah sure it's worked out well.
      What is extinction if life keeps returning? Oh yeah bumble fudge human can take care of that.

  • SadieDog

    A different perspective on the war in Syria.

  • Jebus Jebus

    The invasion of the pyrosomes, gelatinous, translucent tube-like creatures ranging in size from less than an inch to a foot or more, continues in force off the coast of Oregon for a second year, baffling scientists.

    Whatever caused these “pyrosome blooms” has so far stumped researchers, but “something happened,” said Weitkamp. “We’re all kind of scratching our heads trying to figure out what it was that happened.”

    They’re back. A lot of them. And they’re reproducing.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      as the scientists were standing around the coffee machine, kind of scratching their heads in a mirthful beffudled stupor over the crash of the ecosystem, the lightbulb simultaneously came on for Jane, Herb and Rick; YES! this is good news, we can get more government funding…

      Their spirits were lifted and they formed a group to flesh out the proposal



    The 'metaphor' refers to the mythological Medea (representing the Earth), who kills her own children (multicellular life).

    If one looks at the represented period s in history [Wiki] it sure resembles Earth 'maintaining', and/or destroying itself. No Homo Saps needed.

    Maybe Earth has become it's own problem. And through self-destruction, regeneration, ect, she will be 'born' again. Mankind cannot possibly deal, contain, or manage the suicidal devastation it has inflicted on itself and all inhabitants of this biosphere,

    In some circles, this great dying off is referred to as 'feedback loops'. Or 'tipping points'. Is that not the Earth destroying itself?

    In Greek culture blindness and seeing are transposed to indicate this moment of recognition as tragic vision.

    Medea is a brilliant theory. Along with many others.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Time for the slime to rise and glisten, gloriously, upon the fields of gray and the multicolored waters! Evolution…from oozing to squirming, then crawling, finally running and flying, we at last reach oozing in a final triumphant circle staged by the earth mother. Yes, even now, my mouth is oozing at the corners and my organs have begun to ooze

      Lets sing!

    • earthsmith earthsmith

      It is earth replenishing itself and that is beautiful. Killing is for dogma plagues idiotic bi-peds that believe because they can reason with themselves without being able to communicate with other species makes them superior. Go figure.

    • Blather is to salt as truth and help is to water…

      Ya think?

      Eva Bartlett: Everything you've been told about Syria is a lie:

  • Jebus Jebus

    Behold the almighty and all knowing humans.

    Master of self and all of the lowly beasts on Earth.

    Absolutely baffled by the effects…

  • Jebus Jebus

    It feels like riding on a fast train, travelling towards an obviously washed out crossing, looking out the window, and wondering when the scenery will change…


    Transcending Fukushima, Good Luck With That..

    I often wonder if humans have lost their collected minds. Were we always selfish, self-centered, immoral idiots hell bent on self-extermination?
    Yeah, pretty much.

    So when did we 'cross the rubicon' into a total self-immersed state bodering on lunacy?
    With the printing of 'God-Money'.
    Technically, 700AD. But let's say 1690AD, US.

    The Industrial Revolution was the transition to new manufacturing processes in the period from about 1760 to sometime between 1820 and 1840.

    The world saw a major increase in population, which, along with an 'increase in living standards', led to the depletion of natural resources.

    The effects were profound. Humans were able to advance … ? Yes, they advanced into the 'Tech revolution' twilight zone. The age of Nuclear 'energy'.

    The promise of an “atomic age,” with nuclear energy as the global, utopian technology for the satisfaction of human 'needs'.

    The beginning of the age of 'controlled' nuclear power in human history. The beginning of human extermination in history.

    NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, can transcend Fukushima. Not the 'God-Money, or 'technology'. We are 'boxed-in' with no way out.

    Game over Homo Saps.

  • Jebus Jebus

    I see more that the lessons from multiple Fukushimas, the earthquake and the tsunami washing out the industrial shoreline, into the Ocean, as the untranscendable parts.

    We just hand it to time…

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      sung to "Unforgettable"

      Unforgettable, that's what you are
      Un-transcendable, though near or far
      Like your poison that clings to me
      How the thought of you does things to me
      Never before has someone been more

      Unforgivable in every way
      And forever more, that's how you'll stay
      That's why, darling, it's incredible
      That someone so …mutatable
      Thinks that were so un-exterminatable too

      Unforgivable in every way
      And forever more, that's how you'll stay
      That's why, darling, it's incredible
      That someone so reprehensible
      Thinks that I am contemptible too

      • Jebus Jebus

        It's the only club that we are all in…

      • GOM GOM

        Code, are you attempting use of mnemonic Major System for me?

        Are you being concupiscent?

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          howdy GOM. I had never heard of the Mnemonic major system. So far I can barely figure it out…associating vowels then words with numbers. Concupiscent means filled with sexual desire.

          When Jebus said the lessons from the fuku catastrophe are untranscendable, I thought of Nat Kings song….I imagined I was singing the parody it to the nuclear industry.

          The other take off from 'let me rock you Chaka Khan retains the sexual innuendo…as if the commander in chief was singing to the neocons and getting a boner from sending battleships

          • GOM GOM


            Your 'clever' rendition of Unforgettable & use of high syllable words..just thought I was being funny.

            Usually humor is lost on folks like you. However do you tie your shoes? Slip ons, right? Just kidding.

            We should go out for a drink. Coffee? tea? Me?

  • Think Global Warming is real?

    What about local warming….

    Should we spend millions to study something so obvious?

    Or is it a way to distract while big business makes millions with little or no conscience…

    Here's one to watch…

    ..Most clear explanation I've seen lately, apparently the press is beginning to actually tell the truth now!!!

    Beware all you global warming free money scroungers!

    • Jebus Jebus

      I'm confused? What does heat islands fron urban sprawl, all over the planet, from every city, have to do with global climate change?

      • GOM GOM

        Nothing. That's the point.

        • Jebus Jebus

          Are we sure?. It's all interconnected in ways befuddling…

          "Urbanization produces radical changes in the nature of the surface and atmospheric properties of a region through introduction of new surface materials, the creation of the urban canopy and the emission of heat, moisture and pollutants:"


          Parts of the sum of all parts…

          • GOM GOM

            I understand your point but urban sprawl would be the lowest common denominator regarding any 'real' change in localized weather. The sprawl reached saturation many Moons ago. IMHO.

            .."creation of the urban canopy and the emission of heat, moisture and pollutants". …

            Sounds like ground ozone created by a global shift in temperature, extreme heat coupled with extreme water vapor.

            NO2 or NOx is created by chemical reactions, not emitted. At this point, I believe that the dire state of ground ozone is responsible for a huge chunk of total ecosystem collapse.

            I'm not a 'know-it-all, but I live and breathe anything associated with the climate/weather.

            It is also my opinion, through endless research, that the Nuclear industry, unequivocally, upset the balance of Earth's energy to a degree of 'no return'.

            • GOM so do you understand cloud nucleation via galactic cosmic rays?

              No the nukists have taken us to "no return" not by themselves that is.

              • GOM GOM

                Hi stock

                Earth's energy balance

                What, in nature, has tipped the energy balance of our world [modern times]? No huge releases such as mega volcanoes, methane hydrates, ect, that tipped the climate in more ancient/ recent times. Say 12,000 years as 'recent'. There was always a culprit to any major shift.

                It takes energy to screw up energy. You have major releases 24/7 from industry, coal burning, gas flares, but is it enough to crash the climate which the world Ocean is the major player?

                If one looks at nuclear testing, it doesn't take much to see the 'culprit' there, does it? Not only Earth, mass nuclear energy was released in space also. Starfish Prime actually shook the planet and caused a fireball. The Russians were also space testing.

                There is much more damage then we can perceive. Hense the start of Geoenginering to mitigate that damage.
                For instance, destruction or altering of the Van Allen Belts. What climate chaos did THAT cause? Were talking horrendous radiation here, including irradiation of Oceans via the Sun also.

                Now throw in 'little' incidents, Mayak, Fukushima, 3 Mile..ongoing Rankine cycles from all industry. Heat, heat, and more heat. Heat is energy. We've just done a 360 back to zero.

                Rankine Cycles


                • Gasser Gasser

                  Everyday Planet heaters

                  Millions of aircraft.

                  Billions of roof tops.

                  Billions of light fixtures.

                  Billions of parked vehicles.

                  Hundreds of thousands BBQ's.

                  Billions of industries of all sizes.

                  Thousands of forest and building fires.

                  Billions of Cigarettes with their lighters.

                  Hundreds of thousands Artillery rounds.

                  Billions of humans cooking every moment.
                  Billions of miles of asphalt and parking lots.

                  Thousands of War's explosions big and small.

                  Millions of big heat producing Cities and Towns.

                  Billions of internal combustion engines waste heat.

                  Millions of burning tires in War's and used for protesting.

                  Billions of stoves, heaters, fire places, and open cooking fires.

                  Just to name a few heat sources give or take a few Trillion BTU's.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  energy balance…all of ape-mans bombs, nuke plants and oil burning produced heat that is a very small percent of the solar energy hitting the planet. So the idea that mans fire is heating the planet is not so correct. I calculate roughly 1/4000

                  If you burn a candle, you liberate about 150 watts (think lightbulb) for one hour. Lets say there is enough soot coming from this candle to blacken one square meter of a surface. If you now have a black curtain instead of your perfectly reflective aluminized curtain in your window, you have about 150 watts of solar heating per hour indefinately.

                  The candle gives us an intuitive idea of the energy involved. There is about 160 watts per meter average solar input on the planet. This is equal to a candle on every meter of earth, burning night and day. (during full sun its closer to 8 candles per meter).

                  Man is burning an additional 0.037 watt/m2/hr, or about 1/4000 of a candle per square meter. Another way to visualize that; if man put a candle on each meter of the earth, he would burn that candle in half a year.

                  We feel good with a fresh breeze and some white puffy clouds in the blue sky, the warm sun on our skin and birds in the sky. These are actually the main forces that keep the earth billowing with life. Solar energy, water and life itself (signified by birds)

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    The plants and microbiota produce the oxygen and seed the clouds, along with galactic rays. Life on earth and the equilibrium of climate relies on life. A good reason not to poison it!

                    The soot produced by burning things is important because it lands on the snow absorbing solar radiation and changing the rate of melting.


                    C02 is not really like a blanket. The mean free path for the rays impacted by Co2 is very short; 25 meters. All of the action takes place at the upper atmosphere and relies totally on the temperature gradient of the atmosphere.

                    scientists are on the learning curve of climate science. Established science always becomes dogma. Sometimes the dogma is right, sometimes wrong.

                    The focus on Co2, a non poisonous trace gas may be wildly incorrect. Keeping the biosphere full of diverse life by not poisoning it and blackening it with soot could be the better view. Like Co2 following, not preceding warming, climate change may have been caused by the mass extinctions in the past.

                    The one thing that eludes our befuddled scientists; if you spread poison, the world will get poisoned. The ocean will not surge with life, the birds will not fly, the clouds will not sail in blue skies, the weather will change and the globe become a kind of hell.

                    Henrik Svensmark – Galactic Cosmic Rays causes climate change

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Clouds  have a cooling effect of 20 W/m2

                      It is thought CO2 has a heating effect roughly 3 watts/m2

                      plankton reduces the amount of solar energy absorbed by roughly 4 watts per square meter over the course of a year because of cloud seeding.

                      It would take a forest the size of Spain to offset mans Co2 emissions. Considering that we have cut down more than half the trees in the world, tree loss is a greater driver of climate than coal and oil burning

                      Co2 has a balancing effect with plants and animals…an essential exchange nutrient. Ape-mans fires, his oil, nuclear and everything is not a huge contributor to the earths energy. The important factors are also felt intuitively; clouds, life, water and sun. The oceans need to billow with healthy plankton, not dead plankton, the snow needs to be glistening white, not black from soot, the hills need to be topped with forests, not clear cut for cow farms.

                      And a tricky one; the earth needs to be naturally radioactive, not sprinkled with nuclear fallout. They arent the same

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      I meant to say the oceans need healthy plankton not dead PLASTIC

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      also, of the 3 watts/m2 thought to be caused by CO2 , only 3% of that Co2 comes from mans various fires. So, one tenth of a watt per m2 climate forcing due to humans. Compare to 20 W/m2 cooling from clouds…200x as much effect. One can then see that only a minor change in cloud action overwhelms the co2 effect. This is what led me to consider fukushima as a driver of the warm ocean blob anomaly.

                      What caused the blob, besides a normal decadal rhythm?

                      "In the winter of 2013-14, an unusually strong and persistent ridge of atmospheric high pressure emerged in weather maps of the northeastern Pacific Ocean. The feature, which was so unrelenting that meteorologists took to calling it the Ridiculously Resilient Ridge, weakened winds in the area enough that the normal wind-driven churning of the sea eased. Those winds usually promote upwelling, which brings deep, cool water up toward the surface; instead, the resilient ridge shut down the ocean circulation, leaving a large lens of unusually warm surface water in the northeastern Pacific."

                      This would make it a prime suspect for alterations in plankton cloud seeding along the kurushio current, victim of the fukushima catastrophe

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "The plants and microbiota produce the oxygen and seed the clouds, along with galactic rays."

                      Correct..And without life-produced oxigen..there is no life would be confined to the oceanfloor/soil..those pesky uv-beams got pushed back by life so it could expand the whole planet..

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      As it was ment to be..

                  • earthsmith earthsmith

                    1 hp = 0.745699872 kW, roughly 745watts depending on what type of engine you are referring to.
                    Human extracts, produces, consumes, transplants energy.
                    Human extracts, produces, consumes, transplants deadly toxins
                    It's a problem.

                    How many watts are extracted, produced, consumed and transplanted in transport of 1 deadly toxin?

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      perfectly burning gas would produce Co2 and water…not a problem in my mind. Imperfectly burned fuel makes toxins. Digging coal and oil is a horrendous attack on the ecosphere.

                      The only way forward is solar. The main way this can be implemented is by south facing windows and some thermal mass.

                      By redesigning cities and economics…away from the capitalist system, transport would be hugely decreased. Proper house design and streamlined vehicles could vastly decrease energy use. Birth control must limit and ultimately reduce the human population

                      I dont see how we can just stop energy use and transportation. What is need is a redesign of the system of civilization. This could be largely implemented using the military budget

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Perfect would be nice. But alas there is profit and war to be made. Damn wolfers! The irony is hysterical.
                      I'm of the camp we had a chance but…just look at who the world listens to. That would be money.

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      I also agree living under the sun, free to roam, is the way to go. Solar beings. Watch out for those greasy apes they got potions and motions.I like bicycles a lot. Much to be done.

      • Don't be confused, think simply…

        The simple to understand answer is when you plow through a Forrest and then pave over it things get warmer locally.

        When you drive a car that makes heat at 200 plus degrees things get warmer locally.

        When you replace trees with dark colored asphalt shingles and then cool the space underneath with a machine that makes more outside heat in concentrated form things get warmer locally.

        When you create a huge urban sprawl all paved over you increase temps to a point that the heat plume that rises from it into the upper atmosphere even effects the weather in that localized area and C02 will naturally increase due to the lack of plants that were bulldozed under and taken away…

        So is there such a thing as global warming? YES it has to do with the Sun activity at any given time and NOTHING ELSE.

        Co2? Nope, it's the Sun!

        Localized warming is the practice of plowing down trees and paving over lands that used to absorb c02 and produce O2 thus c02 has increased and that fact has NOTHING to do with "global warming" and everything to do with "localized warming"…

        Get it????

        Oh and the global warming scientists rely on testing results in Hawaii to bolster their global warming C02 claims?

        Recon how much naturally occurring C02 those volcanoes produce everyday?

    • GOM GOM

      This is a prime example of mass ignorace influencing. I just said it in my last post..

      "Americans spend a lot of time online these days spouting whatever kind of closely held beliefs they cling to in lieu of facts and reality".

      That would be you..


    America..the failing Republic.

    Americans spend a lot of time online these days spouting whatever kind of closely held beliefs they cling to in lieu of facts and reality.
    War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

    Media barons manipulate public opinion.

    Morally bankrupt fossil fuel barons of industry lead the spiral down.

    The country is now in the death-throes of a dying empire. Collapse isn't avoidable by changing whatever form of government we have due to financialization and hollowing out of the real economy.

    The world is run by powerful people who control people, assets, and armies.
    The cusp of economic & environmental collapse is not on the horizon, it's in the damn harbor, docking.

    It isn't only the form of government. It's declining resources, climate change, hugely wasteful programs of all kinds, and sinister 21st century war machines getting ready to run amok.

    This development will no doubt surprise the general public, which has not experienced such a disaster in modern times.

    Collapse is baked in. Buckle up.

    • Ya know…it isn't the collapse that bothers me, it's all of the idiots known as the general public that have me worried. We seem to have lost all sense of what it is to be sane and logical about anything we do. I'm strapped in as tight as I can get this seat-belt, fire those rockets and let's jet into the future 🙂

      • GOM GOM

        About that sanity.. I try to shop at night to avoid people. They don't act right. This can't be mass addiction issues, they can't all be hopped up on pharmaceuticals right?

        Being dumbed down through education won't make you a Class A asshole, can it?
        It more than assholeism though. It's as if they react without thought.

        While waiting for coffee yesterday at Dunkin this guy jumps the line and orders while constantly berating the staff. I left.

        While sitting in truck, there was an episode of 'parking lot rage', I left.

        Sitting in the truck again, a car goes by and the people in it threw their huge soda's smashing them, full of fcking soda, against mine. Hollering & laughing. WTF WAS THAT?

        What I'm seeing can be the start of 'age racism' or 'age hate'. And the Blacks are on 'White Hate Autopilot'.

        Being a vendor, you drive..a lot. No more. I quit. Started winding it down some time ago.
        The Millennials need to be locked up, like sanitarium locked up. Gen Z are mindless bots with a dangerous look in their eyes. I don't trust the fckers.

        So, I just got back with a new Kerig. I will now make my own coffee. In safety. Behind locked doors.

        My app goes in for a conceal carry tomorrow thanks to a growing sense of fear. And to all you mindless, spineless govt created drones, heed this warning..I live in Florida, home of 'stand your ground'. I arm myself not only because the law states I can, I do it to protect myself from the likes…

      • GOM GOM


        The new face of 'change'

        Noticed a pic from Parkland on your site of 'Emma Gonzalez'.. shooting survivor-crisis actor-lesbian-skinhead-anti-gun Cuban.

        "This is how you look when you claim Cuban heritage yet don’t speak Spanish and ignore the fact that your ancestors fled the island when the dictatorship turned Cuba into a prison camp, after removing all weapons from its citizens; hence their right to self defense"..BAM..
        REP Steve King, Iowa

        1990 AR15 HBar

        Smith & Wesson Model 60 LS Ladysmith .357 Magnum.-Pending app

        Molon Labe

        • Many years ago Joseph Campbell said we needed a new myth…I'm still waiting. All I claim is to be along for the ride, can't do the weapons thingy. Being against violence can be an awkward position but I have no choice, hard-wired. We are being split into too many fragments to be choosing sides. So I follow Buddha who said doubt everything and become your own light. It's not my job to turn someone else's light off. I see change in the face of Emma and all those teacher's and all the women stepping up to run for office. All good signs but is it to be an effective balance? Growth is always painful and rotten with dangers unforeseen, to come through without causing more harm is a worthy goal, I think.

    • Gasser Gasser

      Top Ten Your Fucked

      1. Born
      2. Voted
      3. TV news
      4. Doctored
      5. Chemicals
      6. Drank water
      7. Work 8/5/351
      8. Religion feared
      9. Taxed 24/7/365
      10. Processed foods

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Trillions Upon Trillions of Viruses Fall From the Sky Each Day
    Scientists have surmised there is a stream of viruses circling the planet, above the planet’s weather systems but below the level of airline travel. Very little is known about this realm, and that’s why the number of deposited viruses stunned the team in Spain. Each day, they calculated, some 800 million viruses cascade onto every square meter of the planet."
    I guess those viruses picked up some radioactive particles too.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      viruses essential to life on earth

      a global messenger between cells and organisms? Certainly key to ocean balance and also cloud nucleation

    • One can only imagine the mutations the airborne radioactivity and other pollution have already caused and will continue to cause to virus and bacteria strains…

      "It is well known that radiation can cause mutations in bacteria and viruses. Andrei Sakharov, the famous Russian physicist, described in his 1992 Memoirs that even at low levels radiation could increase mutations of bacteria and viruses.

      His predictions, which were originally made in 1958, have come true and we are seeing new ailments such as Reye's syndrome which first appeared in 1963, and Legionnaires' disease, which is caused by a bacteria that was not threatening prior to 1976.

      AIDS may be related to a mutated virus combined with a weakened immunity in a generation born after the first nuclear weapons were detonated."

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "BREAKING: (a few days ago) SYRIANGIRL Explains Who Is Behind The Latest "Chemical Attack" In Douma, Syria"

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