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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "The Supreme Court Eyes Online Sales Taxes
    If you think internet companies aren't paying any taxes for online sales and that's killing bricks-and-mortar retailers and states' budgets, you, my friend, have been duped. Nothing could be further from the truth. The internet isn't a tax-free zone, nor is the lack of revenue the issue with state budgets. There is, however, a battle about whether state and local governments should be allowed to collect taxes from out-of-state companies." https://reason.com/archives/2018/04/19/the-supreme-court-tackles-online-sales-t

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      US government accidentally sends a strange conspiracy theory file describing 'remote mind control' and 'forced memory blanking'

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5638069/Government-accidentally-sends-strange-conspiracy-theory-file-describing-remote-mind-control.html#ixzz5DE5vlgra
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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Love it!

        Hope they list the life long benefit of taxing the crap out of the slaves until they die.. while burying them all in endless piles of paperwork.

        Fury as eighth grade students are asked to list the 'positive aspects' of slavery for a homework assignment

        Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5638609/Parents-furious-eighth-grade-students-asked-list-positive-aspects-slavery.html#ixzz5DE8muFul
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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          After being on this planet for a very long time..it dawned on me that I have never received one thing for free from anyone..unless a gift.

          Never anything for free from any government agency..zip, zero, nada. They have only taken..

          Where is all this taken by force tax money going?

          We must stand back in awe!

          No Health Care for any of You! Nothing for you!
          https://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/

          • Your life was given to you for free.

            Don't miss out on the value of "now", that is why we call it the "present"

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Chuckles!

              To busy chasing the past..to be in the now..all one has to do.. is embrace the Rumpster..and one is forced into the past.

              Pretty sure my parents paid for my birth..nothing is for free…in this shithole.

              Oops..did I say that? Crap I must be turning into the Rumpster.

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                Blessed are our white American Brothers! True believers!

                Salute to hatred: Black-clad neo-Nazis hold a shocking swastika burning ritual in Georgia after earlier clashing with antifa protesters 40 miles away during rally celebrating Hitler's birthday

                Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5643407/The-new-face-hate-Neo-Nazis-hold-shocking-swastika-burning-ritual-Georgia.html#ixzz5DPGydROj
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                • But the real truth? It's not white or black or green or purple or even blue people that hate…

                  It's haters that hate and they always find a excuse to do what they want to do…

                  If it's not race it's going to be something else because haters hate, all the rest is just a excuse to do so…

                  Human behavior is predictable, the excuses to do so are often not so predictable…

                  But you can bet a violent person will be violent, all the rest is just whatever reason/excuse they find at the time to do what they are going to do anyway…

                  Here's a good one….

                  https://medium.com/okay-lets-be-serious/the-predictable-nature-of-the-unpredictable-predictability-of-human-unpredictability-6c85a9c4161d

                  • DUDe DUDe

                    HATERS huh ???

                    Better intervene before they are created at early age instead of advertising smacking the blanco pages in the face for your own failure to deliver the message compatible with how the empty wiring is organised waiting for your input…convincing yourself that's the right way , so manly , to write it full of wisdom and stability bweuuuurk

                    And then you can project your opside down theories on the haters you created..oh , they always gonne hate..can't do much about it..better to execute them all..after we figured out a way to make a buck of that too..

                    • Well human behavior is in fact predictable (yours too)…

                      A dope addict will find a excuse to do dope…

                      A alcoholic will find a excuse to drink…

                      A violent person will find a excuse to be violent…

                      A swindler will find a excuse to swindle…

                      A doubter will find a excuse to doubt…

                      And a rumor mill slinger will find a excuse to sling rumors…

                      So that has nothing to do with reality, that has to do with a excuse to do what will inevitably be done by these folks anyway…

                      Surely that's not a hard one to understand, unless someone can find a excuse to not understand it by finding a excuse.

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      Even a fish could follow that logic..and may even be impressed enough to follow you around inside that litle judgement loop without having enough brainmatter left to get a sense something is missing..like an exit..from the status quo that keeps creating fucktards..

                      I was talking about what keeps creating whatever you put on that list..here is a guess..its the smallness of that loop your shouting from..

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Average single person wage in U.S. is 32K? These are average incomes..the public has been lied to..simple really.

                      Firefighters and engineers earned, on average, $134,400.Average pay for police lieutenants across the state was $161,400; for fire captains, it was $153,300. Excluding overtime, vacation payouts and bonuses, average pay for police officers in 2014 was $85,400 and for firefighters was $84,600.Feb 27, 2016
                      See what California cities pay police, firefighters | The Sacramento Bee
                      http://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article2573210.html

                    • Then speak (or write in this case) in plain english instead of slinging veiled insults and actually saying nothing…

                      ..Or is that too much trouble for you.

                      Naustradumass speaking in pooptranes?

                    • That one was for double talking DuDe by the way…

                    • Love the new icon DuDe…

                      …speaks volumes.

                      Careful, ya may actually learn something form this one…

                      Full Metal Jacket Opening Scene:
                      https://youtu.be/3j3_iPskjxk

                    • How Bout ya there Private Pile,

                      Let's get to the crucks of the doughnut….

                      https://youtu.be/5NP8y63Ms4o?t=24s

                      Insulting? A threat? Best be careful…

                      And here's the real (totally fake) excuse for it…

                      https://youtu.be/7vZBHfyq3TE

                      Wow further time wasting study needed…

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "Then speak (or write in this case) in plain english instead of slinging veiled insults and actually saying nothing…"

                      Its plain english but maybe above your head..let me try to summarise it differently..trial and error speak as it were..never getting tru..

                      FUCK THAT CHESTBUMPING ONE BUTTON (simplified to its logical extreme thoughtproces/dogma) SOLVES EVERYTHING ATTITUDE !!

                      "That one was for double talking DuDe by the way…"

                      WHAT DOUBLESPEAK ?? I couldent be more straight. Point it out how it is "doublespeak" that offend you and how that is a out of line personal insult at 10 seconds for midnight..that if it would be , i seem tho be the one never alowwed to return a favor or two..

                      "Insulting? A threat? Best be careful…"

                      Again..i'm not insulting a person..only the mindless crap that keeps us looping..and don't YOU talk to me about threats..i'm starting to float above all on my own barf after 54 years of being fistfucked from both sides to death by addicted troglodytes that think they can lecture me about psychological dynamics , especially my own , after glimpsing over a book or article..with the fingerprint of their cult all over it..but never dared to really decent in to the matter and meet their own darkness..

                      Not someone elses alone..No !
                      Their OWN first !! Yes..years of pain..can't do that..put blame outside is so much easier..
                      Oh well..

                    • Maybe we have a miscommunitation going here DuDe…

                      "Better intervene before they are created at early age"

                      Aggreed!!!!!!!!!

                      "advertising smacking the blanco pages in the face for your own failure to deliver the message compatible with how the empty wiring is organised waiting for your input…"

                      What? What are you saying there?

                      And then…

                      "And then you can project your opside down theories on the haters you created..oh , they always gonne hate..can't do much about it..better to execute them all..after we figured out a way to make a buck of that too"

                      Really? What does that mean again? Or to start with "private pile"?

                      And then?

                      "compatible with how the empty wiring is organised waiting for your input…convincing yourself that's the right way , so manly , to write it full of wisdom and stability bweuuuurk"

                      Define "bweuuuurk" and what you are saying there for us simpletons….

                      So you don't get it?

                      Dude, Where's My Car? (2/5)

                      Movie CLIP – And Theeennn… (2000) HD:

                      https://youtu.be/oqwzuiSy9y0

                  • A 卐 ?????

                    "The swastika (as a character 卐 or 卍) is an ancient religious icon used in the Indian subcontinent, East Asia and Southeast Asia"

                    Ironic how this is still a primary symbol of so called "white supremacists" huh…

                    Actually created by who? The very people that are insulted by it and praised by those that think it's actually a "anglo" thing???

                    Recon it's a original symbol created by the "I'm better that you" movement? Or is it just a convenient excuse to stir up violence and insult by violent people (on both sides) and those that don't know the truth behind it?

                    And what does that symbol actually mean? A broken cross? What does that actually represent? A mystery to most huh…

                    Wow what a insult to people of color huh…

                    …when people of color invented it?

                    Poor education is the cornerstone of violence and insultedness.

                    Ignorance is bliss? Another totally false ideal?

                    Yepper….

                    Great one obewan!

                    Here's a great one on human evolution, it's realities and it's consequences…

                    Idiocracy – Opening scene in HD:

                    https://youtu.be/YwZ0ZUy7P3E

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      We will be OK!

      Rumpster and his crew are very smart people!

      https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/558143/kansas-tax-cuts/

  • You're all victim to circular reasoning and fetishizing equivalence.
    If X is the necessary condition for Y, Y cannot be the necessary condition for X. Inversely, if X is the sufficient condition for Y, Y cannot be the sufficient condition for X. Sufficient and necessary condition can never be attributed simultaneously without producing inconsistency. Prove: Suppose that X = Y, then = = ≠, thus X ≠ Y, and then = ≠ ≠. Thus the notions of mathematical equivalence and causality fall apart. For example, if you could prove that Fukushima-Radiation is the sufficient cause for an "extinction level event", you cannot prove that Fukushima is the necessary cause of such an extinction level event. Inversely, if you could prove that Fukushima-Radiation is a necessary cause of the mass extinction event we witness, you cannot prove that it is the sufficient cause. I'm done with this Forum.

    • GOM GOM

      Winter

      Logical fallacy.

      Straw man occurs when someone argues that a person holds a view that is actually not what the other person believes. Instead, it is a distorted version of what the person believes.

      False dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.

      Circular reasoning is when you attempt to make an argument by beginning with an assumption that what you are trying to prove is already true..

      Thus I feel :

      Life = Sin(t)

      Where t is time.

    • danger kitty danger kitty

      Thank you for that, Wintermute.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Wintermute, what do you mean by necessary condition?

      Certainly X can have a causal relation to Y and vice versa.

      in a binary system, X is necessary for the trajectory of Y, just as Y is necessary for the trajectory of X

      Human foolishness injects people with poison, and this poison makes people foolish, which induces them to inject people with poison

      Aerodynamically, increased velocity over an airfoil is the requisite for reduced pressure,(exchange of potential and kinetic as per Bernoulli) yet reduced pressure is the requisite for increased velocity. Thus there is an infinite solution set until one imposes the condition at the the trailing edge (kutta)

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Codes axiom; if understanding is required to pose a logical theorem, yet a logical theorem is required for understanding, we would never have invented the toilet

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Jebus's axiom; the destruction of the Pacific ecosystem is due to the sum of all influencing factors

          based on this axiom, it is unnecessary to prove that fukushima is the sufficient cause for the pacific genocide in order to prove that it is a contributing factor

          • GOM GOM

            Code.. Jebus' is pushing reality. Do you not believe in Fukushima as an ELE event?

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              GOM, what do you mean by ELE?

              The bomb test era was an extermination level event. So is Fukushima. The extent of extermination is unknown. Bomb fallout was believed to kill 60 million people and untold numbers of other life. For those killed, it was certainly an extinction. We saw the near extinction of seastars. Is that close enough?

              Isnt it true that all factors influence the health or death of the ecosystem? For sure Fukushima is not the only factor. It is a challenge to convince scientists that it has any effect at all.

              But its not too difficult to convince scientists fukushima has SOME effect….this is already a little victory. Its an uphill battle to convince the world that poison poisons things…such is our deep stupor. The science world should admit…we dont know the intricate chain of cause and effect. Using science paper data, I have shown that the fallout, while small in measured quantity, is worse than background radiation. Thats a little victory dont you think? I spearheaded that effort

              • GOM GOM

                Code:
                "it is unnecessary to prove that fukushima is the sufficient cause for the pacific genocide in order to prove that it is a contributing factor"

                It IS necessary to tag Fukushima as an ELE in itself.

                The term ELE is now a 'widespread and rapid decrease in the amount of life on earth'. That's a broad description. It also puts nuclear in a 'basket' of destruction, blended with various shit like factories, coal..
                How convenient..

                I seem to remember an ELE as a single event CAUSING mass destruction such a an asteroid.

                Maybe I suffer from Mandela Effect..

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  GOM, a key argument of the nukers is 'you cant prove low level radiation was the specific cause for any disease'

                  They really get into that, with numbers and everything.

                  Once you prove that low level radiation from fallout IS a factor in disease, you have taken away one of their primary defenses

                  YOU cant offer up any scientific reasoning why 10 bq/m3 is an ELE. On the other hand, Ive been working on it

                  • GOM GOM

                    Code

                    Everything we all say here has, at very least, a breath of truth. Most of us try to convey the whole 'truth' because we are passionate. And pissed off from being pissed on.

                    I don't need "scientific reasoning", I have gobs of logic. If one inserts logic into any dilemma, one can usually see the bigger picture or issue. You don't need mathematics to 'solve' everything.

                    We are talking an ELE event, GOM,.. Fukushima, ..in modern times, it appears, or did, that one event is going to lead us into doom, realtively quickly.

                    Whereas past events, Devonian, Triassic..we're ELE, mass extinction that played out over long periods. Like millions of years. If the late Devonian extinction had not occurred, humans might not exist today.
                    Not so in our future.

                    Modern extinction by our own hand will destroy the planet. Nothing will return. The tragedy of nuclear is breathtaking in terms of Earth's extinction timelines.

                    Timeline Of Mass Extinction Events On Earth

                    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-timeline-of-the-mass-extinction-events-on-earth.html

                    {Comprehensive}

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      GOM, while YOU may be satisfied that your beliefs are sound, you lack the power to convince the science world, students and the public too. In fact when you introduce the full range of your beliefs, it backfires and you lose the readers who then label us as conspiracy kooks.

                      Building a scientific argument is not easy, and its beyond the scope of the layperson. But there has been quite a few links to papers which, taken together, build a case.

                      Dana Durnford and Kevin Blanch document the destruction of the ecosystem. But scientists remain unconvinced!

                      Simply SAYING that fukushima is an ELE doesnt do much to convince. Pick the damning feature of the catastrophe that interests you and etch away at it. Maybe radiation induced immune deficiency, or the failure of the dose coefficients, or the quantity of 'unusual mortality events' that happened after fukushima. This would help

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          the amount of flammable gas released by wood depends on the temperature of a fire and burn time; FG=>Tfxtb, and/but the fire temperature and length of burn depends on the amount of flammable gas released; Tfxtb=>FG. Note that without the requisite flammable gas, there is zero burn time, and with zero burn time there is no flammable gas; if tb=0 then FG=0 and if FG=0, tb=0, because 0x FG= 0tb

          Thus, by the principles of propositional logic, the presumption of the existence of fire is a logical negation (!)

  • Democratic Party files lawsuit alleging Russia, the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks conspired to disrupt the 2016 campaign

    “…The lawsuit argues that Russia is not entitled to sovereign immunity in this case because “the DNC claims arise out of Russia’s trespass on to the DNC’s private servers . . . in order to steal trade secrets and commit economic espionage.”

    The lawsuit echoes a similar legal tactic that the Democratic Party used during the Watergate “scandal. In 1972, the DNC filed suit against then-President Richard Nixon’s reelection committee seeking $1 million in damages for the break-in at Democratic headquarters in the Watergate building.

    “The suit was denounced at the time by Nixon’s attorney general, John Mitchell, who called it a case of “sheer demagoguery” by the DNC. But the civil action brought by the DNC’s then-chairman, Lawrence F. O’Brien, was ultimately successful, yielding a $750,000 settlement from the Nixon campaign that was reached on the day in 1974 that Nixon left office.

    “The suit filed Friday seeks millions of dollars in compensation to offset damage it claims the party suffered from the hacks. The DNC argues that the cyberattack undermined its ability to communicate with voters, collect donations and operate effectively as its employees faced personal harassment and, in some cases, death threats. …”
    https://www.washingtonpost

    • CNN quoting Washington Post quoting a reporter from something reportedly from the early 80's

      It should be telling that globalists, scared shitless by the wrecking ball to political correctness, have nearly infinite funds to attack Trump in any way possible.

      Funny also, how ALL the teachers that I know, are so anti-Trump. Why is that? Are they well educated or is it something else, what could that be.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        But Trump is pro Israel, pro Saudi, pro destabilization and murder in other middle east countries, he is not concerned for the environment, replaces corrupt EPA Gina McCarthy with totally weird anti environmentalist who hires 18 full time body guards and a 40 grand secret phone room on my dollar, eases tax on the rich, protects his criminal friends, has no qualification to be president requiring complex global diplomacy, or the head of the worlds most powerful military, endorses torture, has no credibility in the global arena or peoples of other countries…a laughing stock essentially. Hes narcissistic, and as we have shown, psychopathic. He doesnt shut down nuclear, on the contrary continues Obamas trillion dollar funding of it. He is proud of his ghost written book 'the art of the deal' which he touts as the reason which makes him a good president

        see codes axiom here
        http://enenews.com/forum-off-topic-discussion-thread-non-nuclear-issues-new-as-of-january-2017/comment-page-131#comment-896176

        • But why are all the teachers so anti-trump?

          Pyschopathic is little boys putting firecrackers into frogs and blowing them up, criminal minds. That type of thing. The label doesn't apply.

          To be a pyschopath, you must be a sub-set of sociopath, which is in a nutshell, no conscience, no guilt, and great at lying.

          You can't honestly state Trump is great at lying, can you?

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            I dont know exactly why educators and intellectuals are against Trump. I have my theories…

            What is psychopathy again? Little boys blowing up frogs without remorse?

            U.S.-led Coalition airstrikes have killed 11,125 people across Syria, of which: 7,502 dead were ISIL fighters, 309 Al-Nusra Front militants and other rebels, 140 government soldiers and 3,174 civilians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War#American-led_intervention

            I dont see a shred of remorse from Trump about this blowing up of frogs and people. Not a word, not a moist eye. Meanwhile, many reports surface that Trumps premise was based on false flags and he didnt even wait for investigations to be carried out.

            Is that how your saviors of mankind roll? Trump is not great at lying, yet he has you convinced….

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    Codes axiom; Trump is a Con

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    Trump jumped the gun, killing, yet feels no remorse. This is a sign of a psychopath

    Rand Paul Questions Syria Gas Attack and New Evidence It Was a False Flag Hoax
    https://needtoknow.news/2018/04/rand-paul-questions-syria-gas-attack-new-evidence-false-flag-hoax/

    Swedens violent reality
    why do countries allow floods of imigrants? You KNOW its not humanitarian
    https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-bombings-grenade-attacks-violent-reality-undoing-peaceful-self-image-law-and-order/

    Insane: Los Angeles to Pay $40,000-A-Mile to Paint Streets to Fight Climate Change
    https://needtoknow.news/2018/04/insane-los-angeles-pay-40000-mile-paint-streets-fight-climate-change/

    painting streets white may drive you crazy….being crazy lets you paint streets white

    This is similar to the circular logic conundrum; circular logic drives you crazy, and/but crazy people use circular logic,

    • Even now in USA, a certain group of people think that open borders are correct, smart, necessary……..these same people are anti-Trump

      from the article — Sweden

      Gang-related gun murders, now mainly a phenomenon among men with immigrant backgrounds in the country’s parallel societies, increased from 4 per year in the early 1990s to around 40 last year. Because of this, Sweden has gone from being a low-crime country to having homicide rates significantly above the Western European average. Social unrest, with car torchings, attacks on first responders and even riots, is a recurring phenomenon.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Amid Trump’s Immigration Crackdown, More Mexicans Get Visas to Work in U.S.
        Demand in America is surging for Mexican farmhands, landscapers, hotel housekeepers and other temporary workers
        https://www.wsj.com/articles/amid-trumps-immigration-crackdown-more-mexicans-get-visas-to-work-in-u-s-1502184601

        3 Trump properties posted 144 openings for seasonal jobs. Only one went to a US worker.
        “America First” doesn’t seem to apply to the president’s own businesses.
        https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

        sorry, Im stuck on this circular logic thing; if Trump uses foreign low wage workers to work his properties in order to maximize profit, and maximizing profit induces Trump to hire foreign workers, then its a logical fallacy that Trump doesnt use foreign workers to maximize profit

        • If it's legal, I would use foreign workers too.

          If criminals come here without permission, outside of the law, we end up like Sweden.

          It's very simple, Democrats/libs want the illegal immigration, and hand our free stuff to the illegals, in order to get votes.

          Who doesn't understand that?

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            Im embarrassed for your statement; "If it's legal, I would use foreign workers too.
            If criminals come here without permission, outside of the law, we end up like Sweden."

            The law doesnt change the psychology of people…by that I mean the actions and impact of immigrants is not going to change too much whether they are legal or not legal. Didnt Sweden make it legal to have those immigrants who are causing trouble? Isnt it illegal to do the shit they are doing?

            You would exploit foreign workers to maximize your profit if it was legal. See theres a big problem here. You will break the laws you can get away with, and you will do the things you think are bad for the country if they are legal. High time you reconsider your position

            • Vetted legal immigrants, not just with lack of criminal past, but actual positive attributes, would be completely different than overall average of illegal immigrants (willing to break the law out of the gate)

              I would provide employment. Sorry that is not exploiting, sheesh.

              The level of discussion is going way down. As it always does when I push an argument, and the other side doesnt have a pot to piss in. I am embarrassed for your lack of pot.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                You are embarrassed for my lack of a pot to piss in…

                but why are you against immigration? Are the reasons not exemplified by the troubles in Sweden? Are not the immigrants in Sweden legal?

                Why would you use immigrants as employees? Is it because you can hire them at a lower rate, or because you think they have other positive attributes lacking in citizens?

                You see, if the problems of immigrants are due to an uneasy mix of social ideology, inclinations and norms (certainly the case with latinos here and muslims and Africans in west europe) then how does a stamp of legality, like our guest worker program change that?

                Once here on a work program, they establish a life and may remain, even if illegally. The restaurant and resort business is truly operated with them. U.S. money is diverted to Mexico, extended families move up and soon you have the condition of California. All of the U.S. will be dominated by latinos, its inevitable. This is good for latinos and capitalists, but not good for white citizens who are ostracized on the beach, in parks, and the workplace. Reality, not theory!

                Your attitude exemplifies the problem we have with elite power players; Do what you can do legally, or even illegally, if you can get away with it, because market forces, (a false extension of Darwinism) will make things turn out right, and also because nature and people have always been cutthroat, thus its only natural

                Isnt that a cogent pot within which to piss?

                • sheesh, had a nice fairly long reply, got "error establishing database connection" and then on goign back, comment was gone, not waiting for a retry as usually.

                  cannot bring myself to type the same shit twice.

                  hence ENE was lost

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          codes axiom; the lengths to which stock will go to excuse Trump is equivalent to Trumps transgressions

          Neither dems or repubs reform the Guest worker program
          A guest worker program allows foreign workers to temporarily reside and work in a host country until a next round of workers is readily available to switch.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guest_worker_program

          Latinos now outnumber whites in California
          http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-census-latinos-20150708-story.html

          California will never be the same….for the previous white population it will be worse…for the latino population coming up from Mexico, and capitalists, its an improvement.

          Open boarders generally result in social disruption and increased crime. Its not a problem of government so much as its a problem with our species

          • Oh my God, defending the president is equal to being a pyschopath. Guilty as charged!!! LOL

            The problem is neither government nor species, in terms of open borders and the huge problems that brings, the problem is the open borders. Would you let someone just move into your house, even if they were in need, and you didnt know them from Adam?

            Would the fact that they were completely unlike you, thought differently and had different moral values sway your decision?

            Probably not, because the decision would likely be hell no in all cases.

  • Has anyone here done any anti-nuclear or anti-toxin activism this week? Please detail.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      I spent considerable time blogging about the problem of capitalism and its causal root in the pollution and nuclear problem, which was read by thousands

      • I guess you have proposed some decent sounding enough alternate systems, but I really can't see them working on any large scale, unless you fill a country with "code thinkers" non-bonding non tribal peoples.

        And make you you immigrate legally.

        "thousands" is pushing it.
        And commenting here is not really "blogging" unless you have a blog you never mentioned?

        I agree that government and government control (illegally for the most part, by corporations) is now the root cause most of our problems and the continuation of the nuclear fiasco. Greed plays too.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          just because you cant imagine how a system that does not require the public to work 3/4 of their time to carry capitalists on their backs (40% of that paying usury) doesnt mean its not possible. In fact I insist its a deficiency in imagination or effort.

          We had nearly 3000 readers of my bystander effect thread and 5000 on the pacific genocide thread at caferadlab and I think ENE has a lot more readers. So there http://caferadlab.com/forum-93.html

          Im not actually for open borders. Ideally, yes, but the reality is not good. I mean its good for them, not good for residents. I know 'liberals' have an idealist vision on that that I dont share. I take my view from my own 'open eyes' program

          on the other hand, I might like to move to another country, but they wouldnt let me. This is indicative of the motivation for the immigration policies…

          stock, you pigeon hole me as individualist, and likewise I pigeon hole you as 'group think'. You believe that we could finally control a country, nice and tidy like, through rule of law…yet you admit you break the laws you can get away with. My view is that we should rather focus on finding ways that reduce reliance on law…which after all, didnt keep the country from criminal behavior while simultaneously creating a prison nation with the highest incarceration rate…. just saying. The difference between us is that i KNOW I dont know whereas you are sure you do

          • The usury thing is well taken. But any link to "capitalism" is not there, unproven at any rate.

            When things suck (and that is part of the NWO plan, to make it all suck) it is an easy knee jerk reaction to blame the systems that have been in place.

            It's an easy mistake to make.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Just because you dont see any link of capitalism and usury doesnt mean there isnt one.

              ABBY MARTIN DISCUSSES THE ABSURDITY OF CAPITALISM WITH PETER JOSEPH

              https://videosenglish.telesurtv.net/video/673710/abby-martin-discusses-the-absurdity-of-capitalism-with-peter-joseph/

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                Its of course not just the usury problem. The problems of capitalism are well known and the amount you work to support them (40% to usury, at least 75% to capitalists)

                Noam Chomsky
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIzwZXOxHzY

                capitalism is inherently exploitative, it is unsustainable, it creates economic inequality, it is anti-democratic and leads to an erosion of human rights and it incentivizes imperialist expansion and war.

              • Shes cute but that dont cut it in my book.

                Chomsky is kind of red pillish, but not in my most right book anymore.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  I can say unequivocally that you dont stand a chance in arguing Chomsky. I know you didnt watch it through

                  Abby Martin is of course interviewing others…Michael Hedges is another powerful intellect

                  40% + 75% only equals 115% if they are added, but the 40% is within the 75%. This is because the capitalist system revolves around the investment class

                  You are shooting at feathers but not killing the pheasant. …and its transparent

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    I meant Chris Hedges, not Michael. Peter Joseph seemed to be pretty good

                  • I have watched enough Chomsky, I know his take and errors.

                    you gots your panties so bunched up you can't even see my humor, lol

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      my attitude is friendly.

                      Such is the power of indoctrination that even when you lay out the numbers, people refuse to believe they have worked 3/4 their lives carying capitalists and bankers on their backs, and only 1/4 or less went to their families.

                      But slowly, they will come around. The proof is not refutable…just look at your mortgage. Look at the debt, look at the cost of goods vs cost to manufacture, look at wealth inequality numbers. They will go from denial to outrage that they were so totally hoodwinked over something so simple

                      People are concerned; they say you will destroy the jobs of the capitalists…but dont worry. We will have programs where they can learn to become productive members of society

    • Good one stock…

      Real releases?

      Real problems?

      Or fun for slack that does and proves nothing…

      Yep I have…

      The releases in NC (mcguier) have proven to cause cancer across the board

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGuire_Nuclear_Station

      This one has released MOX in a reactor configureation that is (and was) NEVER designed to use the crazy fuel to begin with…

      Fact?

      Time to study real things before they kill all our kids huh, ya think?

      This is the most apparent violation in history, but go ahead and study the Trump he said she said shit…

      Yea that'll help…

      …or not.

  • Happy 4-20 everyone :-)))

    Stock…Code
    Alex Jones…Howard Zinn

    I gotta laugh.
    And I do every time I see N.W.O..
    "It isn't new, and it isn't order." FDR

    Borders…we should all be North Americans. Get rid of both borders. It is one land mass, it should be one people, North American's.

    • LOL why stop there, central america is attached too, and south america if you neglect the artificial canal thingy

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Taffy, your belief in total open borders is idealistic. Its one world, therefor there should be no borders. In fact, for capitalists, there are no real borders.

      I lived in Mexico for a while. I can see it…open the U.S. so that it can become fully latino. Thats good for Mexico and millions of people! Many good people

      On the other hand you and I are already outcast. You perhaps dont get around to many parks these days. I can tell you its different than it used to be. I lived in San Diego and Mission Beach 55 years ago. Its degraded, if for no other reason than crowds…but there are other reasons

      Face it, cultures dont share your world view and they dont mix easily

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Taffy, would you erase the borders of the indian reservations/nations and let whites flood in? I can tell you from experience, they dont want that

      There are no ideal solutions. reducing the population and reforming capitalism comes as close to any I can think of

  • "As of this writing, a full day has gone by since the letter/referral was reported, with total silence so far from The New York Times and The Washington Post and other big media as they grapple with how to spin this major development. News of the criminal referral also slipped by Amy Goodman’s non-mainstream DemocracyNow!, as well as many alternative websites."
    Ray McGovern

    http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/04/on-the-criminal-referral-of-comey-clinton-et-al-will-the-constitution-hold-and-the-media-continue-to-suppress-the-story.html

    Many people in Alaska are watching its alleged leaders: Summer patriots, fingers in the wind. Implicit collusion? It looks as if grey-beard Democrats and complicit Rs are going to wait until it breaks before breaking ranks. More lazy than leadership.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Harvard where all the millionaires and welfare billionaires line up..this is pure bullshit!

      The want to keep the peasants from pillaging their properties and chopping off heads..

      Secret to happiness? Having good FRIENDS: 80-year-long Harvard study finds relationships are more important to contentment than money or success

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5639303/80-year-long-Harvard-study-confirms-relationships-important-money-success.html#ixzz5DFzEDrrZ
      Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

      • Yep watch em horde the millions while crazies have nothing, because they contribute nothing and spend time spreading fairy tales and other such tripe…

        Then we can live and spend money on the fake spaceships huh…

        Wowsers… Whatta reality huh… Not…

        The basketball people have thrown balls through hoops for years, that's what they do… The rest of us sit around and wait for our children to die…

        101 to 102 in the last 2 seconds huh, how sad….

        Here's one now…

        https://youtu.be/NMscUE_d8Js

        Forget real things that will kill us all, just watch dumb asses talk about tossing a ball through a hoop or a puck in a net…

        Bouncy ball? Bouncy puck? Really???

        What a complete waste of time and life…

        What was the score again? Been to the doctor lately for a 20 thousand dollar shot?? Taken your kid to the hospital to get poisoned again after being poisoned from a little bit of power to start with???

        Really????

        https://youtu.be/Ki_qAyE-ytA?t=10s

        So sad…

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Palantir Knows Everything About You" https://www.bloomberg.com/businessweek

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "April 20, 2018 "Information Clearing House" – WASHINGTON — Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will introduce a bill Tuesday that would impose jail time for pharmaceutical executives whose companies engage in manipulative practices when marketing opioids." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49265.htm

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Turkey Will Repatriate All Gold From The US In Attempt To Ditch The Dollar" https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-20/turkey-will-repatriate-all-gold-us-attempt-ditch-dollar

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      well now we know where the next war in the middle east will be.

      A 2013 Harvard University working paper came up war cost: $4 trillion to $6 trillion for just Iraq and Afghanistan. Thats a capitalist success story!

      People believe that a billion is more than a million but that a trillion is another name for flan

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "A match made in Hell: Monsanto-Bayer merger gets the green light… farmers are worried, as they should be"
    Friday, April 20, 2018 https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-04-20-a-match-made-in-environmental-hell-monsanto-bayer-merger-gets-the-green-light.html

    • PlowboyGrownUp

      "As hundreds of lawsuits against Monsanto for personal injury and wrongful death move forward, German pharmaceutical company Bayer has been given the green light to acquire Monsanto in a deal surpassing $60 billion. The mega monopoly merger was approved by the U.S. Department of Justice in April. Instead of breaking monopolies up, the U.S. encourages monopolies to merge with other monopolies, as the agriculture and pharmaceutical elite clamor for domination over the world’s food and drug supply. The merger follows in the footsteps of the Dow-DuPont and Syngenta-ChemChina mergers."

    • GOM GOM

      The Bayer aspirin company has finally apologized for the inhumane acts of its parent firm including using Jewish slave laborers during the Holocaust. "I have sorrow and regret and apologize for the inhumanity"..

      Fuck You

      G. Farben did to your people," Helge Wehmeier, the head of Bayer Corp., told Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel at a lecture last week. Bayer's parent company, Bayer AG, was part of the German chemical conglomerate I.

      And a double fuck you to the agent Orange/Monsanto Satan-Nazi cabal.

      A Must Watch..on this. Inflation will skyrocket.

      Super Lawyer Mike Papantonio's TV interview rant on upcoming disaster for everyday people.

      Nazi Ties & Agent Orange: The Real Bayer-Monsanto Merger Story – The Ring Of Fire

      https://youtu.be/9BebsOq66gk

  • New evidence sujests the cancer clusters in NC are from loading up of gamma from MOX fuel loaded into a reactor not designed for that…

    And when we say no we already know NOT!!!

    Now the latest evidence is a spike in thyroid cancers in youths…

    Confirmation of a release? Nahhhh…

    The world is flat and the center of the universe huh…

    And someone blew the trade center buildings huh…

    Couldn't have been the jumbo jets…

    Really? Well…

    Crap occurs that doesn't for fools…

    While the real crap is occurring in reality…

    …How about that.

  • Jebus Jebus

    To cope, I splash water on my face very early and acknowledge to myself that, yes, everyone else is just as insane the same each day.

    My dog spins in circles, too…

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    " News Links, April 20, 2018
    ## Global Ponzi meltdown/House of Cards/global cooling/deflationary collapse ##" http://ricefarmer.blogspot.fr/

  • GOM GOM

    How it is possible our nation is in the dire shape it's in today.

    We are a nation of unhealthy junk food eating prescription drug addicts who have elected the most incompetent group of representatives to Congress in history.

    If college education was working, then why is it that our 'ivy league' educated Congressmen have been trying to fix our problems that were created by having too much debt, by increasing our budget deficits and getting us trillions of dollars deeper into debt?

    Fraud

    "It is a real shame that the majority of the U.S. population has fallen for the propaganda being spread by the college cartel".

    College Conspiracy – Top Documentary Films

    https://youtu.be/kC_RYgkkmcM

  • Giuliani's history raises legal questions as he takes on Trump defense

    The former New York City mayor and federal prosecutor may be a witness in the Russia probe, and has other entanglements that could complicate his new role.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/21/giuliani-trump-defense-questions-544703

  • Jebus Jebus

    Whether a belief or in reality, any event labeled an ELE, is the sum of many parts.

    It wasn't before, but it is all about money for man now.

    We should probably just use percentages…

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      from an individuals perspective, one death- your own or your loved one- is as terrible as 1000. Because its personal. Thats the reality…the tragedy is all felt on a personal level. If Fukushima caused only one death and it was your wife, thats an extinction level event

      The nuke industry says a certain low probability of cancer is an acceptable price to pay for energy. They argue that lack of energy would create more deaths or that coal has a higher risk etc. They feel that way because they never connected the death of their wives dogs and children to nuclear.

      Furthermore they believe the chance is random and therefor not provable AND of no harm until a random mutation gives you cancer. But this is faulty thinking. Thus, you prove to the nuke science world that fallout causes systemic morbidity, not a stochastic, all or nothing non provable cancer.

      Now you have connected the death of their wives to fallout; it was an unambiguous contributing factor.

  • GOM GOM

    Who runs the Nuclear Power Industry? Who is the Head Honcho?

    You had better sit down..With a stiff drink..

    Korsnick holds a bachelor’s degree in nuclear engineering from the University of Maryland, and 'has held' a Senior Reactor Operator license. She lives in Maryland with her husband and two children.

    https://www.usea.org/profile/maria-korsnick

    So, for curiosity sake I look up her husband. NOTHING.

    And then, there it was: ready? Not really.. drumroll please..

    Michael Allen Korsnick, 54. Also known as: Maria Korsnick From: Davidsonville, MD.

  • DUDe Even The Birds HATE Me Now

    Gorillaz – Fire Coming Out Of The Monkey's Head w/ lyrics

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm144oMYbIg

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "…the ecological impact of the oil-driven U.S. war machine, which is the third-largest polluter of U.S. waterways and emits more carbon than 160 other nations combined, I'm reminded of the importance of treading lightly on the earth. " email from worldbeyondwar.org

  • DUDe DUDe

    Gina Haspel, Who Tortured and Destroyed Torture Tapes, Has Been "Cleared" by CIA of Wrongdoing

    In what critics are calling a bald attempt to help Trump's controversial pick to lead the CIA get through a very difficult confirmation process, the CIA on Friday released a previously classified memo in which Gina Haspel was "cleared" of any wrongdoing when she destroyed more than 90 videotapes of agency operatives torturing human beings.

    According to the Associated Press, which first reported the story, the CIA on Friday "gave lawmakers a declassified memo Friday showing [Haspel] was cleared years ago of wrongdoing in the destruction of videotapes showing terror suspects being waterboarded after 9/11."

    Written by then-acting deputy director of the CIA Mike Morrell, the eight-page memo, as the Washington Post reports, "does not weigh in on questions about Haspel's involvement in the use of brutal interrogation methods at a black-site facility she supervised in Thailand.

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44241-cia-operative-who-tortured-destroyed-cia-torture-tapes-and-now-wants-to-lead-cia-was-cleared-says-cia

  • DUDe DUDe

    Japan's renewable energy puzzle: solar push threatens environment

    As the country rushes to cut carbon emissions by 26%, campaigners worry that forests and wildlife are being trampled

    Pressure on Japan to increase renewables’ share of the energy mix means the number of large-scale solar farms is expected to rise. But, far from welcoming the dawn of a new age of clean energy on their doorstep, residents near the proposed site of a huge solar farm in the city of Kamogawa are mounting a last-ditch effort to prevent its construction.

    To make the Kamogawa mega solar plant, developers will destroy 300 hectares of pristine forest.

    The irony of chopping down trees, which absorb CO2 in the air as they grow, to replace them with a solar plant has not been lost on campaigners, who claim the facility will destroy the natural environment and put the area at the mercy of the elements.

    Of all of the countries investing in renewables, few are as in need of a fundamental rethink on energy policy as Japan. The country recently marked the seventh anniversary of the tsunami disaster and Fukushima meltdown – which resulted in the closure of dozens of nuclear reactors – yet it still lags behind other countries in clean energy development.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/19/japans-renewable-energy-puzzle-solar-push-threatens-environment

  • DUDe DUDe

    Facebook Moves 1.5 Billion Users' Data Out Of Europe To Circumvent New Privacy Law

    This doesn't bode well for Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and what remains of his tattered credibility.

    In a tweak to its terms and conditions, Facebook is shifting the responsibility for all users outside the US, Canada and the EU from its international HQ in Ireland to its main offices in California. It means that those users will now be on a site governed by US law rather than Irish law.

    The move is due to come into effect shortly before General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) comes into force in Europe on 25 May. Facebook is liable under GDPR for fines of up to 4% of its global turnover – around $1.6bn – if it breaks the new data protection rules.

    The shift highlights the cautious phrasing Facebook has applied to its promises around GDPR. When asked whether his company would promise GDPR protections to its users worldwide, Zuckerberg demurred. “We’re still nailing down details on this, but it should directionally be, in spirit, the whole thing,” he said.

    That removes a huge potential liability for Facebook, as the new EU law allows for fines of up to 4 percent of global annual revenue for infractions, which in Facebook’s case could mean billions of dollars.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-20/facebook-moves-15-billion-users-data-out-europe-circumvent-new-privacy-law

  • DUDe DUDe

    A Cancer on Society: Monsanto Claims Right Not to Speak About Roundup

    Monsanto doesn’t want the world to know their product is labeled a "probable carcinogen."

    It's no secret that Monsanto Corporation's trademarked pesticide Ready Roundup has become one of the most widely used herbicides in agriculture since its introduction in the mid-1970s. What might be a surprise to most is that, according to the World Health Organization's (WHO) International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), glyphosate, the principal ingredient in the herbicide, is a "probable carcinogen." Acting to protect its public, as governments should do, the State of California required that food labels indicate the presence of glyphosate. Problem sorta solved… except for Monsanto’s ill-gotten and ill-considered constitutional rights.

    Obviously, Monsanto doesn’t want the world to know that it is highly likely their product is a carcinogen, so Monsanto took California to court — and won. Despite the IARC's findings, a U.S. District Judge has temporarily suspended the labeling of food products that contain traces of the herbicide, because it violates Monsanto’s First Amendment “right not to speak”.

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/04/21/cancer-society-monsanto-claims-right-not-speak-about-roundup

  • DUDe DUDe

    100% Renewable Energy is Within Our Reach

    America’s twisted politics may slow the transition to renewables, but other countries are now pushing the pace.

    We watch in horror as the damages from climate change continue to mount.

    Last year, Hurricane Harvey dropped more rain on Houston than any storm has ever dropped on any American city, ever. Hurricane Maria set back development in Puerto Rico 25 years, according to early estimates. And the tab keeps mounting: in 2017 alone, the economic cost of hurricanes and wildfires was greater than the cost of paying tuition for every American in a public college or university. We can’t have a working nation or a world if we don’t stop the climate from careening out of control. That’s been clear for decades now, but what’s been less clear is precisely what we should do about it.

    Happily, that’s no longer the case. We now know exactly what to do, and we’re increasingly certain it can be done. We have to switch off of coal, oil, and gas, and on to 100% wind, water, and sun energy sources. And though this drive for a conversion to clean energy started in northern Europe and northern California, it’s a call that’s gaining traction outside the obvious green enclaves. More and more major US cities have taken the pledge to go 100% renewable by the year 2050, while others have taken action to sever their ties with the fossil fuel industry, signifying a global shift in how we’re thinking about our energy system.

    What Medicare for…

  • Is Donald Trump a cult leader? Expert says he “fits the stereotypical profile”

    Mind control expert Steven Hassan says a cult leader “wants everyone to merge into their definition of reality”
    https://www.salon.com/2018/03/06/is-donald-trump-a-cult-leader-expert-says-he-fits-the-stereotypical-profile/

  • DUDe DUDe

    Germany's Largest Public TV News Broadcaster: Syria Chemical Attack "Most Likely Staged"

    A senior correspondent for German state media broadcast ZDF heute stunned his European audience during a report from on the ground in Syria when he gave a straightforward and honest account of his findings while investigating what happened in Douma. The veteran reporter, Uli Gack, interviewed multiple eyewitnesses of the April 7 alleged chemical attack and concluded of the testimonials, "the Douma chemical attack is most likely staged, a great many people here seem very convinced."

    It appears that all local Syrians encountered by the German public broadcast reporter were immediately dismissive of the widespread allegation that the Syrian government gassed civilians, which the US, UK, France, and Israel used a pretext for launching missile strikes on Damascus.

    ZDF heute: The world continues to puzzle over whether the banned chemical weapons were used in Douma. ZDF correspondent Uli Gack is in Syria for us: "you were in a large refugee camp today and talked to a lot of people – what did you hear about the attack there?" Gack responded, "the Douma chemical attack is most likely staged, a great many people here seem very convinced."

    Increasingly, it appears that mainstream media gate-keepers are losing it over the fact that so many highly visible and respected reporters and broadcasters have featured reports this week which publicly question the Syrian chemical attack…

  • DUDe DUDe

    Total dessertification for all life from the inside out..as soon as there is a capitalist bipedal in the picture..going on for century's..
    ————

    Honeybees Are Struggling to Get Enough Good Bacteria

    A study published in Ecology and Evolution Monday shows that the big changes humans make to the land can have important consequences for some tiny microorganisms honeybees rely on to stay healthy.

    Honeybees depend on a diverse mix of bacteria—called a microbiome—to turn fresh pollen into bee bread, which is stored in the hive as food for young bees.

    A diverse bee-bread microbiome helps bees fight infection and preserves the bread longer; a less diverse bacterial mix can leave the bread susceptible to mold and the bees in the hive vulnerable to starvation.

    But research by the Lancaster University's Lancaster Environment Center and the Center for Ecology and Hydrology suggests that to get a diverse microbiome, bees need to feed on a diverse array of plants. And human alterations that reduce biodiversity in the landscape can make this more difficult.

    The scientists examined the microbiomes of almost 500 bee bread samples from 29 hives in northwest England.

    They found that bread from hives near urban areas, monoculture grasslands used for grazing or coniferous forests grown for timber had less diverse microbiomes than bread from hives near more varied coastal landscapes, grasslands or broadleaf woodlands.

    https://www.ecowatch

  • DUDe DUDe

    Mobil Knew: CEO Discusses Links Between Fossil Fuels and Climate Change in 20-Year-Old Footage

    vid 7 min

    "We are not in anyway saying that greenhouse gases can be dismissed as a risk, or that climate change associated with the build-up of greenhouse gases can be dismissed on a scientific basis as being a non-event." These words in themselves are not surprising—they are a basic statement of scientific fact. But their source is. They were spoken by then-CEO of Mobil Lucio Noto in 1998, one year before the company merged with Exxon. The new company would go on to put at least $16 million towards funding climate-denying advocacy groups and think tanks between 1998 and 2005.

    A video of Noto's speech, obtained by ThinkProgress and published by them Monday, has potential implications for various lawsuits attempting to hold fossil fuel companies like ExxonMobil accountable for the contribution their product has made to climate change.

    https://www.ecowatch.com/mobil-climate-change-fossil-fuels-2556206118.html

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    Serco has many tentacles (Rothschilds)
    "ROGERS – Serco Inc. on Monday began round two in its hiring of upward of 1,800 employees for a federally funded mail center that takes in applications for health insurance."
    http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2013/oct/22/serco-hiring-1100-more-rogers-process-cen-20131022/
    Video 3 min http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbpcui

  • Jebus Jebus

    Happy Earth Day, et alia…

    • Thank You Jebus…shall we all go bury a car now? Like the Good Old Daze???

      • Jebus Jebus

        lol, you would think that corporate autocorrect would default to buy…

        • I was thinking back in 1970 we buried a car but it was just an engine. The little engine that could. Back in 2000 I bought a 1989 Chrysler, I still have it today with less than 140,000 miles. Still can't figure out why people have to go so fast and in bright new glossy auto's when there is nowhere to go except up in smoke.

          • Jebus Jebus

            We have all been indoctrinated from birth into this profit controlled mandatory maximum consumption meme driven by unending propaganda that now inserts itself into our lives in ways controlled only by profits.

            I am guilty.

            I was a baby bombed. I am a baby boomer. They warned us then.

            I just went for a drive to the store in a fifty year old vehicle I am restoring.

            An excellent sunny day…

            • '66 Mustang 289 4BBL

              EMP proof!

            • DUDe DUDe

              Yes Jebus correct , guilty as charged here aswell in my tiny personal spot..but not only guilty either..or should i say..i didden't surrender completely..mea culpa i compromised on the things that rewards me too much , like cardriving ones in a while..and eating meat..but i still charge at the suicidal beast as a whole..whose tentacles are so widespread and reaching it goes tru your mothers breast in to your mouth from birth sort of speak (for those so lucky to have received the natural way OT)
              ———–

              There's A Staggering Conspiracy Behind The Rise Of Consumer Culture

              Americans weren't always addicted to buying things.

              Long before U.S. consumers racked up $11.3 trillion in aggregate debt, people used to save money for things they actually needed.

              But in the age of plenty that followed World War I, corporations countered the threat of overproduction with a manipulative psychological strategy.

              "We must shift America from a needs, to a desires culture," wrote Paul Mazur of Lehman Brothers. "People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old had been entirely consumed. We must shape a new mentality in America. Man's desires must overshadow his needs."

              This conspiracy, enabled by new sophistication in advertising and supported by the government, was shockingly effective.

              http://www.businessinsider.com/birth-of-consumer-culture-2013-2?international=true&r=US&IR=T

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                I dont see the consumerism as being the big problem. The essentials are what people are spending all of their money on. Housing, food, insurance, transport. Is that consumerism?

                In a way it is if one wants to examine the economics of capitalism. People are working enough to buy two houses and only get one house. The other house you worked for is a gift to the rich. Its as simple and real as that.

                But this idea that contemporary humans are consumer gluttons and this is the problem with society does not show up in real data.

                What we need are the essentials without the capitalist cost increase. This is true in another way; Much energy is wasted transporting things and transporting energy itself. People waste money needlessly heating their homes when windows can do the job…you only need to put them in the right place

                https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/very-sad-graph-how-much-americans-have-left-to-spend-after-essentials-today/260606/

                • Jebus Jebus

                  I think thats true, we can only buy so much.

                  But, go to lowes, walmart, big lots, harbor freight, the internet of any oversize seller.

                  It is being made whether we buy it or not. Every year, a new model. A new lot to buy.

                  We do not have to buy it, it is gonna be made anyways. For that future consumer.

                  A never ending train of made by mankind goods.

                  Dig, burn, chop, change, filter, dump waste.

                  Rinse, repeat…

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    consumption of those things at harbor freight, wall mart and big box stores is equal to manufacturing rate. The consumption is not substantially different per capita than 100 years ago. Consumerism isnt the problem

                    This is not true for throw away things like plastic bags and paper cups. But the disposable stuff (while fowling the ocean) is not the big factor.

                    The overwhelming factor is that there are so many people. We eat, clothe, live in shelter and get around just like we have for 100 years…essentially like we have forever if you consider the horse as equivalent to the auto.

                    If we didnt have modern stuff, yet still had this huge population, you would have big stores full of hand saws, cabbage, meat and clothes instead of electric saws, cabbage, meat and clothes.

                    The solution to the madness, besides reducing the population, is to bring manufacturing to the community or home via 3d printing. Designs of items would be free in a big data base. Materials would be at cost, no markup.

                    No retail, no middle man, fewer jobs, less waste, less energy, less pollution, more free time, more wealth

                    we dont want jobs creation. The smart man thinks of ways to reduce labor so he can spend time on higher pursuits.

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      I think those that follow us in time will have a different set of priorities than today.

                      US Population

                      103.2 million (1918)

                      325.7 million (2017)

                      World Population

                      1.5 Billion (1900)

                      7.6 Billion (2018)

                      I can think of one…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      birth control?

                      I think they will be concerned about how to roast people for a square meal

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      If history has proven anything: populations of species decline rapidly. Consumerism will end.
                      I wouldn't consume yourself with it. Time is on declines side.

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "I wouldn't consume yourself with it."

                      Problem i see is the programmed mental state of the mass resisting change..whilest being consumed by the elite..

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      " Problem i see is the programmed mental state of the mass resisting change..whilest being consumed by the elite."
                      Pretty sure most people see that.
                      What are they supposed to do? I know … give up your guns.
                      Yeah we could all just stop paying taxes and stuff like that right.
                      Cats out the bag…. it's over. See that.

                  • earthsmith earthsmith

                    Guess I just don't get it. Do people really think technology is going to help somehow?
                    Our society is frozen without technology…completely. A complete long long game setup. Bought and sold. What's not to see? Trump? Middle East? Religion? Wait wait here is a good one….freedom?

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      AI/freedom….yeah yeah sure the community is going to come together. Go team.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      are glass windows technology? Printing press, cotton spinning into threads? The wheel?

                      We had BETTER put technology to good use. Its been high tech since the 14th century. Nobody can make their own cannon. High tech tooling.

                      The basics are water, food, shelter, clothes, transport, communication, warmth and maybe cooling. Much technology is applied to those things, and they also constitute our biggest expenditure and consumerism.

                      We stand on the threshold of liberating humans from wage slavery. And drudgery. Technology of one kind or another enables that.

                      Pollution…man made big strides, showing its possible. Our rivers used to catch fire, air over cities was black. Chemists are a scourge, producing nothing but poisons. Nature provides chemicals, we need to use those in preference to synthetics, generally

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      And where has this glass, spun cotton and wheel gotten us?
                      we had BETTER stop because all it has gotten us is FUKUSHIMA.
                      The earth once provided us with sustainable resources.
                      But because we are so smart with our glass and spun cotton we have taken that away.
                      Kinda like the Native Americans needed glass, spun cotton and the wheel.
                      Yeah sure ok.

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Yep this is where technology has us headed. Go figure.

                      https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/304/cpsprodpb/10BE1/production/_100977586_civtunepa.jpg.

                      Good thing we got that wheel.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      earthsmith…you appear to argue that glass, spun cotton and the wheel are part of the failings of humanity.

                      In your version of utopia, how do you warm the cottage, what do you use for clothes, if any, do you cook? Is there fire? Would you use a wheel to ease carrying stuff around or would you stick with the travois?

                      The basket, pottery and sharpened flint culture is actually a technology too, not used by other species. Would you keep the firing of clay into pots, or do you envision a foraging ideal…no implements of any kind?

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Well Code …fire, water and air is my utopia. So much has been lost. This so called technology we live in now is a farce because it is based on a farce…. money. How much do you think those people get paid to make those $5000 cars in India? Efficiency.. for who. It is my belief humans are weak in today's world…mentally, physically and emotionally. And all that ties into the money comfort game. Nothing wrong with being comfortable except when we are killing everything.
                      Tell me who is going to change?
                      Here you go… not enough.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      fire is fueled by trees, at least historically. This was a big problem and there was already extensive European deforestation by 1000 BC. The earliest known man made glass comes from around 3500BC. Glass windows didnt come to europe until the 17th century. Those glass windows could have solved much of the deforestation problem.

                      Solar cooking and solar heating is a technology you should consider in your utopia. Save the trees!

                      I agree the capitalization of money is a farce. But trade is not a farce, and money as a transaction coupon is not a farce…

                      Manufacturing efficiency revolves around automation. Robotics will eliminate much of the human worker exploitation, reducing jobs. Its not hard to see this is a good thing. The smart person attempts to reduce jobs.

                      https://auto.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/industry/man-vs-machine-robots-are-replacing-workers-in-auto-plants-in-india/49991064

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Seems the natives of the Americas back in the day didn't have a problem with deforestation…. until the Europeans got here… hhmmmm. Wonder why?
                      "Manufacturing efficiency revolves around automation. Robotics will eliminate much of the human worker exploitation, reducing jobs. Its not hard to see this is a good thing. The smart person attempts to reduce jobs."
                      A smart person doesn't need to live by the word job.
                      As I have stated before…reduction is inevitable with time….except in humans straight line mind.
                      But do you really think the robots are being set up with the intention of being beneficial to humanity as a whole?

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Indeed it is right here and ripe and perfect for it. It is the time but sadly not the case.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Code & earthsmith, the Southern California Indians did not have a problem with deforestation by fire. It's primarily oak trees surrounded by a sea of very flammable Chaparral.
                      The California Indians fought fire with fire. They would burn each ecotype as soon as it had recovered enough to carry a fire. It was better for deer and other wildlife & it protected the oak trees from fire.
                      The water courses were burned every year. In post contact times, the water courses have the largest volume of fuel. In times of Indian management, the water courses had the least fuel. "Just enough trees to shade the water".
                      I learned from the Indians and I do a modified version. I can't just light the hills on fire, so I cut, stack and burn. It doesn't look like a clear-cut, it looks like a park. I don't take everything. Just a 50% reduction in density is enough to do the trick.
                      When fire comes around, the results are beautiful. The firefighters are amazed at the results.
                      Picture a bird's eye view of a watershed. It's like a vascular system running through the landscape. It transports fire. The beauty of having the watercourses clean is that fire on one side of the Watercourse will stay on that side. Modern-day firefighters would do well to focus on the water courses. Controlled burns would be easier to control. But alas, modern day City conservationists think that a senescent, dangerous landscape is better for wildlife. It is not. City environmentalists think of nature…

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      City environmentalists think of nature as a museum. So what they hold up as the standard of nature is really the result of 500 years of degradation of the environment. The plant assemblage is all messed up, several components of the ecosystem are missing or greatly disrupted and reduced. Pronghorn antelope no longer roam through the foothills for one example.
                      Oak trees are the keystone species for the environment here. Fire is the tool. 500 years of European management has left the oak trees in trouble, reduced in numbers and vulnerable to fire and insect pests.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Fire was also necessary for household technology. A single basket could require as many as 10000 sticks. Each stick had to be exactly the same diameter and the same length. The only way that happens is if the shrubs that provide the basket material are coppiced or burned. Senescent Chaparral doesn't cut it.
                      And of course the unusable parts of shrubs that are left over after burning or harvested for baskets or mats were used for cooking fires.
                      Everything got used.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      danger, I follow you. Note this is an intelligent stewardship using centuries old wisdom. It is STILL technology. Fire is technology. You alter nature. So blaming technology is not cogent in my mind.

                      But could humanity return to indigenous ways and have it work out? I dont think so. Everywhere you look, and even 3000 years ago this using up of wood has been a problem. Perhaps the limited size of these indians allowed it to be sustainable.

                      Are the Himalayan people that much more out of touch than other native peoples?

                      Himalaya Forests Vanishing, Species May Follow
                      https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/060530-himalaya.html

                      The use of trees as fuel is a solar collection technology that deprives the land of trees and plants and life. The simple use of southern windows is direct and would save important old growth, new growth, brush etc.

                      heating and cooking are huge sectors of mans energy use. Burning creates soot and pollutants and is very inefficient. Im not for burning, except as you point out, a management technique to bend nature to our habitat needs. Even then, I question it

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      It is beautiful danger kitty. Fire air and water where around before bumble face human…I do not consider it technology. I consider it life.
                      A lot of native tribes used the ash/soot from the fire for more stuff including using for cooking. Again life. Universal technology not defined by man or invented by man.
                      I will blame technology. One example is Fukushima, lest we forget.
                      Sewer systems, Corporate agriculture, Medical mafia,
                      I love the sun and bath in it as much as I can but I certainly do t need to manipulate it for"technology" to be satisfied.
                      I also love me the cold, she holds many bounties as well.
                      Code says we need less people and jobs….better start with religion, mans true first "technology"

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      you already manipulate solar energy if you fire your stove with wood.

                      People have many different ideas. Are they well considered? Humans are a part of nature after all. Where does technology begin, whats the cuttoff point?

                      Those fires are not good, not healthy, very inefficient, very polluting. A solar cooker is much better for you and the world

                      https://ourworld.unu.edu/en/unraveling-the-drivers-of-southeast-asias-biodiversity-loss
                      Unraveling the Drivers of Southeast Asia’s Biodiversity Loss

                      Dangerous Cooking – the health risks of open flame stoves
                      4.3 million people die a year due to exposure to cookstove smoke.
                      a half a million people die from ambient air pollution caused by traditional cooking
                      https://www.sandoz.com/stories/access-medical-information/dangerous-cooking-extinguishing-health-risks-open-flame-stoves

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Code you are correct. Humans/everything comes from the universes technology.
                      But as far as I can see, know, understand human is the only species that manipulates universal technology to invent its own technology, as far as I can see, know, understand, that only exists here on earth, that kills the only place we have to live for a debt transfer that either makes you smart or stupid or great or lazy in the eyes of saids technologically invented system.
                      I get that robots AI can change this for a great run as a spieces. Not hard to see.
                      What's also not hard to see is that's just not the case. Not the reason why powers want it implemented.
                      Unless somehow AI sees is differently, which can have a host of implications in itself, but it won't come from societal understanding, want or need. They will remain the slave.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      I see this view earthsmith
                      "human is the only species that manipulates universal technology to invent its own technology, as far as I can see, know, understand, that only exists here on earth, that kills the only place we have to live for a debt transfer that either makes you smart or stupid or great or lazy in the eyes of saids technologically invented system."

                      3D printing will be available to the individual. Perhaps not soon enough to forestall the utter destruction of all things good by ape mans folly.

                      The transformation of capitalism is already happening. Music is free, now the musicians will have to figure out some way to make a buck besides selling records. I use freeware, its a great gift. We share ideas how to transform this mess. Houses are being printed… The subject is too vast to reasonably even mention it. Look around with an open mind and see it. Even tent cities are a transition into a different future as the status quo fails under its own disfunction

                    • earthsmith earthsmith

                      Is some one 3D printing this technology yet !
                      Some where…engineered mosquitoes, 3D printed bio-forms..
                      It should end well, humans are very trustworthy…trust me!

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/exotic-tick-species-arrives-in-us-could-carry-virus/ar-AAwibH9?li=BBnbfcL

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  is the problem consumerism, or capitalism? Its not consumerism as we can see from these charts comparing spending 100 years ago to today.

                  The charts dont tell the important story; efficiency of doing and making things has increased hugely since the industrial revolution. Yet people still work full days to pay for essentials. Where did the wealth from this industrial revolution boon go to? It went to the rich.

                  Now 80% of the population shares only 10% of the wealth. You work 75% of your life to carry those rich guys on your back. The reason people dont believe this obvious truth is because of normalcy bias and because its too horrendous to swallow the truth

                  https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/how-america-spends-money-100-years-in-the-life-of-the-family-budget/255475/

                  • DUDe DUDe

                    I don't see to many people wearing "fixed for further use" clothes anymore..just a first thing that comes to mind..

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    waiting in front of stores is not a good metric of consumerism. One must look at how much people actually buy and consume. Consumerism is a meme, but what are the real percentages of waste or needless items?

                    You know Europe was well on its way to complete deforestation before this consumerism meme came up. We have consumed half the trees of the world. Even the Sahara was green
                    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-really-turned-sahara-desert-green-oasis-wasteland-180962668/

                    Man had the high technology to solve this problem which threatens civilizations and ultimately life on earth. Glass. I should say glass and mirrors.

                    Today we still have not implemented this high technology of glass and mirrors to solve the heating and cooking needs of people.

                    People have many opinions, but are they hitting the nail on the head? I went into some detail before about energy use, where it was used and by who.

                    Cutting down trees is STILL a big problem. it turns out that by using glass windows and mirrors, man can eliminate a substantial amount of oil and tree use, completely pollution free.

                    People talk about a comparatively small consumerism as the cause of unsolvable modern man, when a solution to a big problem is right there

                    It seems people arent thinking correctly. Not thinking right about consumerism, energy, design, efficiency, population, economics, and a lot of other stuff. Its dissapointing

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      consumerism amounts to about 2% of your budget. It LOOKS bad, the garbage heaps and clogged water, but that is due to the enormous quantity of people.

                      That plastic in the ocean problem is solvable, if only people had the right mental framework.

                      Most of that comes out of a few huge rivers that are garbage dumps. People are like pigs in this way.

                      Moreover, we can make plastic biodegradable. Many things made from plastic can be made of other stuff. Bags alone is huge, and very solvable.

                      To solve mans problems of pollution, resource exploitation and waste, we cant just throw up our arms and say its consumerism, it cant be fixed. You look at the big things and solve them.

                      Like the military…biggest polluter. What the hell is the military doing anyway? There should be a cease fire for gods sake, and all that manpower and energy use and everything turned from destruction, misery and pollution into positive things. I say redesign towns for one thing. Our cities and towns are like the framework of our soul killing servitude to the system
                      https://www.ecowatch.com/military-largest-polluter-2408760609.html

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      You are quite the dreamer..I am in!

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      All perfect logic. A Utopian dream.

                      A cooperative.

                      Like the Earth is naturally.

                      Until we learn to nurture, not denature, all the circles of the Earth, it's an end game…

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      Wassen't it China that the other day had a significant chunk of re-forestation done by its military..i think it was..good use of that whomever it was..

  • DUDe DUDe

    Earth-day..Trump's farewell speech to Earth wrapped in mobster level demagoguery..

    Trump Celebrates Earth Day By Praising Rollback Of Environmental Protections
    The president’s dubious logic on conservation is being called out on Twitter.

    President Donald Trump commemorated Earth Day on Sunday by applauding his administration’s efforts to roll back key environmental protections.

    Trump stressed the importance of preserving the “life-sustaining gifts” of “our magnificent land and waterways, abundant natural resources, and unique wildlife” in a White House statement released Sunday.

    “It is our responsibility to protect them for our own benefit and that of generations to come,” Trump said in the statement, before praising his administration for repealing regulations meant to do just that.

    “We know that it is impossible for humans to flourish without clean air, land, and water,” according to the statement. “We also know that a strong, market-driven economy is essential to protecting these resources. For this reason, my Administration is dedicated to removing unnecessary and harmful regulations that restrain economic growth and make it more difficult for local communities to prosper and to choose the best solutions for their environment.”

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-earth-day-2018_us_5adcac66e4b009869bfa472d

    • DUDe DUDe

      “We know that it is impossible for humans to flourish without clean air, land, and water,” according to the statement."

      You know jack shyte fat Donnie..you think this is all we need huh , the "endproduct" (where we tap from the perpetual loop)

      Air , land and water..now Donnie..apart from the fact you are lying and hiding your true intentions like a pedophile does to a child..can't you really see further then that ?
      Who do you think is nonstop cleaning all that to keep it fitting for consumption for all life..from the smallest to the biggest building blocks..
      Here is a hint..when stumbling around on the spectrum of life..when you near those you can't give enough taxcuts and deregulations big and fast enough..and you feel you solved the mistery..then you are behind the event horizon of hell..

      Have a nice day..

  • DUDe DUDe

    "All of this is almost laughably contradicted by reality."

    Self-Immolation as the World Burns: An Earth Day Report

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44223-self-immolation-as-the-world-burns-an-earth-day-report

    • This has been going on for a thousand + years…

      …the internet? Where you can say what you want to people that have never met you?

      Or know any real thing about you?

      The internet for main stream facts? To the general public? Please… The last 10 years or so????

      Connected wires that allow you to play and send vital facts between computers?

      Less than 40 years…

      And the age of the earth?

      So suddenly you see photos of stuff you used to not be able to see but were there anyway? Really?

      Written by folks from wherever and possibly by whoever from where ever? And how would you know for sure???

      Wowsers 1+1=?

      Nine?

      And the broken cross was invented by people of color in places you've never thought of…

      How about them apples…

      Real spectrum and substance testing?

      https://youtu.be/j6mreZ98_Ug?t=58s

      Nahh no one really knows huh pile…

      https://youtu.be/j6mreZ98_Ug?t=58s

      • GOM GOM

        HipD

        This may be your best 'reality check' post to date. Kudos to you.

        "And suddenly"..[cue twilight zone music] we are living & breathing something that obviously has all the answers. Can't live without being plugged in.

        I recently posted something on digital slavery, but these questions…
        I've oftentimes wondered who or what set this up with blinding speed.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          GOM is saying this is HipDs best reality check post to date?

          Wherein he posts his favorite link "eating radioactive apples from Chernobyl? perfectly fine!"

          Ive battled HD on this many times. Nothing phases him. Plus, he gets GOMS support. Houston…

          • GOM GOM

            Code
            Contrary to what you believe, people have a right to their opinions. Your ignorant input is just that. In fact, most of the shit you try to start is ignorant.

            Katagelasticism:

            Katagelasticists actively seek and establish situations in which they can laugh at others.

            This is an asshole thing to do.

            Some people do it because any attention is good attention, so if they get someone irritated and it leads to attention for them then they are happy.

            People who provoke & agitate usually have full-blown personality disorders.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Do you think eating apples from the Chernobyl exclusion zone is perfectly fine? By all means, you and HD…have your apple pie!

            • Correct!!! These plays are so predictable…

              Take a real fact and twist it to get some crazy satisfaction regardless of the truth or facts.

              Then make up some fairy tale insult for attention…

              IE: The facts that are obvious about that video are that mushrooms from over 700 miles away from Chernobyl are MANY times more contaminated with the same fallout than the apple from less than a mile away. And you get to see real testing using real equipment to understand those facts. A real educational experience for those that don't know about testing.

              And yet the great fact finder code uses the name of the video (one line of type) to try to refute a hour of video evidence using proper testing and NO guessing to somehow confound and refute that obvious truth. Who's that helping?

              Ken is another of her faves as she said he downplayed it (no real evidence of that) and then says a 6X sudden increase in readings from woods hole (the real experts) means nothing.

              …and this obviously comes from too much time on her hands and emotional needs to get attention.

              It's too bad that code never seems to study real problems but instead chooses to make up crazy stories and spout fairy tales about potassium and nuclear waste comparisons instead.

              Any one listening to this unemployed fairy tale researcher (code shutdown) will be led astray… To waste their time in wild unfounded theory land and insultville.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                HD, you cant name a single specific thing that I have said that is incorrect. On the other hand, your continual endorsement of the failed ICRP dosimetry via woods hole which exonerates fukushima as cause of any harm, and your continual defamation attempts aimed at those who uncover the poisonous legacy of the nuke industry is transparent and if I may say so, despicable. Everybody sees it….except perhaps GOM

                • Let's see here…

                  Potassium is related in any way to heavy metal toxin?

                  NOT…

                  A quadrupling of readings from the same source of certified testing with the history available for you to see for over 9 years means nothing?

                  Not again…

                  There were real testers out the that actually showed you on video and in no questionable terms that some plants (and animals) will eat and store nuclear waste more than others and will effect your health?

                  Nahh too simple huh…

                  Apples? Mushrooms? Truffles? Couldn't be true huh, even after real testing using real equipment for decades?

                  Still some kinda mystery for some eh?

                  Too silly to believe.

                  Ya like apples?

                  https://youtu.be/j6mreZ98_Ug?t=21s

                  Nahhhhh….

                  Tunes?

                  https://youtu.be/qdBqQ_ZA2Os

                  • danger kitty danger kitty

                    HD/drivel mutt, you are indeed transparent. You attempt to discredit and attack those that are doing an excellent job of deconstructing the deceptive-by-design science of Health Physics.
                    Thats the "crucks" of the matter.
                    You are a cartoon character, HD. Your posts are adolescent graffiti.
                    Your attacks on code are like watching Barney Fife take on Muhammad Ali.

                    • Not nice to see a person that hat NOTHING ot contribute to the conversation but just can't help themselves…

                      So we should rely on you to tell us?

                      Tell us oh wise ones what to do…

                      With no real wisdom…

                      Oh but you know and it's all gloom and doom huh…

                      how about that fact…

                      https://youtu.be/YwZ0ZUy7P3E

                      How about hat one…

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Did I say all is "doom and gloom"?
                      I did not. I'm enjoying life.
                      But you have no problem with putting your words in other people's mouths. While putting nothing but dirt in yours
                      It's your M.O. The transparent way you conflate.

                      All I said is that you are scum…

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    cesium is not a heavy metal toxin (proved to you several times previously). Strike one.

                    Woods Hole, your favorite authority for truth says 6 to 10 or more bq/m3 of cesium and associated fallout is nothing, 1000x less than background. Strike two.

                    Bionerd believes in the ICRP dosimetry. I looked at those numbers in her video which says eating radioactive apples from chernobyl is perfectly fine. According to Bandazhevsky, she will have heart and health problems from levels of Cs137 like that, strike three and HD is OUT!

  • GOM GOM

    CERN CREATED THE INTERNET? WAIT, WHAT?
    WITH THE HELP OF ENGLAND?

    Thanks to HipD, I did some research on the 'Internet' or 'World Web'.

    It was brought to fruition by an English Engineer genius, Tim Berners-Lee
    A graduate of Oxford University, Sir Tim invented the Web while at CERN, the European Particle Physics Laboratory, in 1989.

    https://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/

    • “As you might expect for a technology so expansive and ever-changing, it is impossible to credit the invention of the Internet to a single person. The Internet was the work of dozens of pioneering scientists, programmers and engineers who each developed new features and technologies that eventually merged to become the “information superhighway” we know today.

      “Long before the technology existed to actually build the Internet, many scientists had already anticipated the existence of worldwide networks of information. Nikola Tesla toyed with the idea of a “world wireless system” in the early 1900s, and visionary thinkers like Paul Otlet and Vannevar Bush conceived of mechanized, searchable storage systems of books and media in the 1930s and 1940s. Still, the first practical schematics for the Internet would not arrive until the early 1960s, when MIT’s J.C.R. Licklider popularized the idea of an “Intergalactic Network” of computers. Shortly thereafter, computer scientists developed the concept of “packet switching,” a method for effectively transmitting electronic data that would later become one of the major building blocks of the Internet.

      “The first workable prototype of the Internet came in the late 1960s with the creation of ARPANET, or the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network. Originally funded by the U.S. Department of Defense, ARPANET used packet switching to allow multiple computers to communicate on a single network.

      • [cont.]
        "The technology continued to grow in the 1970s after scientists Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf developed Transmission Control Protocol and Internet Protocol, or TCP/IP, a communications model that set standards for how data could be transmitted between multiple networks. ARPANET adopted TCP/IP on January 1, 1983, and from there researchers began to assemble the “network of networks” that became the modern Internet. The online world then took on a more recognizable form in 1990, when computer scientist Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. While it’s often confused with the Internet itself, the web is actually just the most common means of accessing data online in the form of websites and hyperlinks. The web helped popularize the Internet among the public, and served as a crucial step in developing the vast trove of information that most of us now access on a daily basis.”
        https://www.history.com/news/ask-history/who-invented-the-internet

      • GOM GOM

        Anne
        You are misinformed. Buying into the ever present US propaganda machine by having the standard know-it-all attitude. Actually dismissing the history you are reading. The summation of your post is probably the mindset of most Americans.

        The IMMEDIATE DISMISSAL of a CERN created internet is highly suspicious.

        You think the sheeple know or care about CERN? YOU, ANNE, of all people should get a clue. After all, ..well, just take a look:

        Bizarre Satanic Tunnel Opening Ritual at CERN

        GRAPHIC if you're sensitive

        https://youtu.be/zW5gklIKcDg

        • The article I posted didn't contradict what you posted, but maybe wyou didn't read it.

          My father was working on transistors in the late 1950s and 1960s. I was offered a computer programmer job at Rocketdyne in 1962.

          The I posted mention the World Wide Web and the same inventor you cited.

          So why the anti US propaganda? Looks like just a straw man excuse to rant your own anti US propaganda.

          • GOM GOM

            The US was not involved. You have been duped on every level imaginable. There is no reality here.

            "So why the anti US propaganda? Looks like just a straw man excuse to rant your own anti US propaganda"

            That is the most ignorant statement to date..it doesn't make sense.

            CODE: You are deliberately derailing the CERN POST.

            ASSHAT

            • https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/day-the-web-was-born/

              Expanding on the history of the development of the world wide web is neither derailing or being a matter of being duped.

              Why is your voice the only one you recognize?

              Why did the creator go to MIT?

              Do you think that Facebook is Zuckerberg's invention and sole idea? No.

              Do you think that Bill Gates was the author of all the software that has come out of Microsoft? No.

              Your attacks and language nullify any idea you may have.

                • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertext_Transfer_Protocol

                  “Uniform Resource Locators were defined in RFC 1738 in 1994 by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the World Wide Web, and the URI working group of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF),[6] as an outcome of collaboration started at the IETF Living Documents Birds of a feather session in 1992.[7][8]

                  “The format combines the pre-existing system of domain names (created in 1985) with file path syntax, where slashes are used to separate directory and filenames. Conventions already existed where server names could be prefixed to complete file paths, preceded by a double slash (//).[9]”
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URL

                  • GOM GOM

                    Anne

                    There comes a time, in a handful of people, that the only 'voice' is reason & logic. If that voice happens to be their own, then so be it.

                    Take DUDe for instance. His political knowledge, and comprehension of it, is par excellence.

                    And HipD. In between the zany stuff, there are gobs of intelligent logic. And THAT is what makes him a target.

                    It is my humble opinion that the vast majority of Americans will read something and then that 'something' becomes their opinion. Right now, you, are a prime example of that.

                    It doesn't matter that vast quantities of information are available. The depths of ignorance and the total lack of critical thought due to mass indoctrination, is startlingly. Just the other day, I heard a 'youngish' person make the comment "I never heard of Central America".

                    Your 'reference' to a pre-existing system.. obviously you haven't a clue. That 'system' was their own. Within CERN. It appears, with the advancement of AI, data, ect..that the 'unleashing' of a technology to 'bind humanity', was intentional chaos.

                    The average individual uses this 'advancement' for mostly entertainment value. It is nothing more than Digital Slavery. As was it's intention.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Poor Hippie Dog…targeted so his wisdom cant reach the people. Zany stuff!

                    • “…Why was the Web invented at CERN?

                      “Tim Berners-Lee was a software consultant at CERN in the 1980s when he began writing Tangle, an application to help him keep track of CERN's many scientists, projects and incompatible computers. Thousands of researchers would travel to CERN, do their experiments using their own computers (which they brought with them), and then go home to crunch the data. It was a major pain at CERN to accommodate the many incompatible computers, which also had to work with the CERN mainframe that actually ran the mammoth particle accelerators. Tim was responsible for helping everything and everyone work together. He thought it would be a whole lot simpler if the computers could swap their information directly, even though, at that time, computers didn't communicate with one another….”
                      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/day-the-web-was-born/

            • In the first place, I never said anyone else created the world wide web. This is a straw argument on your part.

              In the second place you have derailed the discussion by attacking me.

              In the third place you are trying to establish yourself as the cult leader of this website by insisting that only your view have reality: "There is no reality here.:

              The reason all the scientists have fled this website is beause of the vitriol here. No scientist wants to argue all day long against a person seeking to be the cult leader.

              We see Trump failing to establish himself as a cult leader:

              The dangerous cult of Donald Trump

              “The authority that a cult leader exercises comes from his self-ascribed role as the one true information source for his followers. Competing ideas and facts are not just wrong; they are demonic.”
              http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-aslan-trump-cultists-20171106-story.html

              • Shameful PT, shameful. Shame on you.

                • The World Wide Web wasn't possible without a lot of pre-existing technology such as computers, coputer programmers, satellites, fiber optic cables, telephones wires, cables across the oceans, etc., etc.

                  • All the innovative technology is possible because of all the immigration. Look at Steve Jobs.

                    • His biological father was a Muslim immigrant from Syria.

                      “His biological father, Abdulfattah "John" (al-)Jandali (Arabic: عبد الفتاح الجندلي) (b. 1931), grew up in Homs, Syria, and was born into an Arab Muslim household.[14] Jandali is the son of a self-made millionaire who did not go to college and a mother who was a traditional housewife.[14] While an undergraduate at the American University of Beirut, Lebanon, he was a student activist and spent time in jail for his political activities.[14] Although Jandali initially wanted to study law, he eventually decided to study economics and political science.[14] He pursued a PhD in the latter subject at the University of Wisconsin, where he met Joanne Carole Schieble (b. 1932), a Catholic of Swiss and German descent, who grew up on a farm in Wisconsin.[14][15][page needed][16] As a doctoral candidate, Jandali was a teaching assistant for a course Schieble was taking, although both were the same age.[17]”
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  yes, its not that Trump is a cult leader…the people that follow him are cultish…thats the problem. He can kill thousands and lay nature open for exploitation and they think hes a saint

              • GOM GOM

                Yes Anne

                All Hail GOM..

                All Hail GOM..

                omg..lol

            • Don't waist my time studying fill (and fool)ishnesss…

              Either you have studied the truth or you have not…

              Film at 11…

              https://youtu.be/GeyjKrjoDTM

  • GOM GOM

    Why CERN really invented the Internet

    Requires an open mind

    The keyword here is DATA. See Berners-Lee bio above. ..

    CERN had to create a massive data hub for non physical information before they created a way to look into the future, and most importantly they had to bring the world wide web to the masses so that we could all fill the internet up with data, and ensure that being online was a necessity in the future to make sure that the infrastructure stayed up as long as humanly possible.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/6nnahi/why_cern_really_invented_the_internet/

    • Spot on GOM!!!!

      Real time travel is to go from New York to Germany at the speed of light over a wire and have conversations and facts displayed on your screen in seconds!!!!

      Just imagine how long it would have taken to have that conversation 200 years ago… That's real time travel.

      As for going to the future or past physically? That's a no brainer!!!

      You simply can't be somewhere that doesn't exist!!!!

      Yesterday is gone, it doesn't exist anymore…

      Tomorrow hasn't happened yet, it does not exist yet…

      All else is a blindness caused by complicated fictional stories and math equations with no basis in reality.

      If you think time travel in a physical sense is possible, you've been duped.

      And it's not a hard thing to understand, you simply can't be somewhere that doesn't exist.

    • razzz razzz

      Compared to hillary and O'bummer Trump deserves sainthood. hillary can't stop whining about blaming everyone else for losing her election and O'bummer can't stop talking about himself.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Trump deserves sainthood…compared to Hillary or Obama. Im confused about what the guy is doing that is so great? What is he doing that is great?

        • NWO pushback, all by itself, is enough to justify a title of awesome.

          Protecting 2A against a tyrannical government which was getting worse is a big one, and in light of self protection needed during a period of intentional division of American by the richest most powerful people on the planet.

          Out of Paris — huge they want to extract $20T and Bloomberg is pimping out $4.5M as if that "keeps us in it".

          Out of crappy trade agreements that have been designed to enslave America with debt form buying crappy shit we don't need anyway.

          Securing the borders and starting to eliminate those here illegally. Essential to the existence of, can I call it a nation/state.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            How is the awesome, saintly Trump pushing back on the NWO? He seems to be in the pocket of Israel, Saudi Arabia, big corporations everywhere. He is willing to sell out the ecosystem and kill people for them. Awesome saint? strike one

            Out of Paris…but why? because he knows any damn thing about the climate science? No way. He is out because corporations want to maximize profits with polluting ways. If Trump was REALLY a saint, he would use the Paris thing as a way to re-focus the pollution problem an enact meaningful environmental protections. Strike two

            'art of the deal' Trump is doing what to get americans out of indebted slavery? You missed it, but I went into some detail about international manufacturing. Just like trump relies on cheap foreign labor in his business, this will continue for the country. Corporatism is global now, sorry, strike three

            Securing borders only to let them in for cheap labor legally doesnt solve much. The flow of immigrants is a multi-generational dynamic fueled in large part by the capitalist ideology of Trumpster types…strike four

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              codes axiom; patriots apologize for despots…even calling them awesome saints!

              true throughout history

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              there is something really interesting here. I consider stock a friend and compatriot…(although we havent met and are not formally friends), yet so much of what he stands behind (trump, conservative and/or partisan politic, free market capitalism, meat eating, reduction in environmental protection, nuclear armament) I consider foolish indoctrination by the dark side. There is no amount of debate that has an impact to change his belief system. Trump can do nothing that isnt excusable…instead, its brilliant, awesome, saintly (razzz said trump is saint compared to the democrats).

              So why is this interesting? It tells me something about the human mind, how our set beliefs mold our reality, how people can be well meaning yet on the crazy side of the fence. Perhaps Cheney and Giuliani, Silverstein, Bush, Obama and Hillary, Japanese whalers, hell lets put Hitler in their while were at it…maybe they all thought they were doing the right thing too

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                this reduces my hope for the future of mankind and the future of life on earth

              • Code, are you part Aspie or some spectrum of that spectrum?

                you remind me a lot of a brother, of which we have many good commonalities, but he, forever, just felt like "everyone was crazy" even me (stock) sometimes. I made the point that maybe there is something about you that makes it appear so.

                he had a self journey of a year or so and self diagnosed as Aspergers, later confirmed 'medically'.

                Aside — the universe allows people who have never met except in the written word, to be friends. aloha

                In a recent idiocy of modern university farce of research, they came up with total bullshit of number of hours you needed to spend in person with someone in order to call them friend, and it was 50 to 150 hours. Total BS there.

                stocks hypothesis — friendship depends more upon total number of interactions (without mean conflict, etc) than number of hours. it works that way.

            • Big meany! you already struck me out and keep throwing balls at me. sheesh, lol

            • ya, follow the treaties or officially disband them?

            • code your arguments are very weak in this regard.

          • DUDe DUDe

            "Securing the borders and starting to eliminate those here illegally. Essential to the existence of, can I call it a nation/state."

            YEEEAAAAAAHHHHH !!!!

            All broken treaties restored and all the forked tongues illegally there trown back in the ocean !!!

            Awesome stock !! I'm all for it !

            • ya, follow the treaties or officially disband them?

              • DUDe DUDe

                Well obviously..The "illegals" should respect the treaties or be trown in to the ocean..i heared there is not a single one that was/IS NOT broken..of thousands i guess..nope..no good at all in it..in those forked tongue invaders that have moved/expanded their "operation" to the global scale..

                Your words.."Securing the borders and starting to eliminate those here illegally"

                Just thinking along with that "elimination" thing..

                • send em back, simple enough.

                  • DUDe DUDe

                    300 million ? simple enough..

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      stock doesnt appear to realize you are talking about the white spanish, english french and other invaders who simply took over the native land for themselves, destroying the indian life and ruining the landscape. Maybe that isnt illegal?

                      Might is right

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      I noticed..maybe some dynamic on a spectrum somewhere..where string meets puppet and stuff like that..

                    • The modern indians wiped out the woodland indians, fairly quickly too.

                      So where do you draw the line? Sorry, here is where we are, we need to move forward with logical actions with likely positive outcomes, and not wishful thinking or just "nice thoughts"

                      I will not jump on the whitey guilt trip, although there is plenty to be overall guilty about, I own none of it

                      My country? i am keeping it.

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "The modern indians wiped out the woodland indians, fairly quickly too."

                      Less then nothing to do with the crime the invaders did/do.

                      Unless you wanne go the "democracy spreading" defense..

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "So where do you draw the line? Sorry, here is where we are, we need to move forward with logical actions with likely positive outcomes, and not wishful thinking or just "nice thoughts""

                      Where we are..hmmm..10 seconds to lights out on the doomsday clock ?

                    • wiped out, disappeared.

                      I guess for some free-spirited intensely individualistic types, it might be more "kind" to just kill them rather than give them a reservation, a country of their own perse.

                      But the wipe out was pretty complete, totally complete as far as I can tell. I bet they kept the best females though.

                      Funny how never heard any news or research on DNA to explain this "wipe out"

                    • BS is BS and all other crap is just added toth…

                      But then, what do I know…

                      Real testing and prospecting? Something you can't possibly do from a seat with a $500 computer?

                      Damn that luck huh…

                      Real research? Nahhhhh….

                      https://youtu.be/j6mreZ98_Ug?t=7m36s

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      stock, I cant make sense of what you are saying.

                      Europeans DID exterminate the indians, who also were not very nice to each other sometimes, and who took sides with various countries during the massacre too. Dont we want to rise above savagery, or is it just another justification for more of it?

                      Taffy wants open borders but Im not sure he wants the indian reservation borders open, indicating the tough intractable problem of ethics we find ourselves in.

                      But the borders ARENT closed, the wall is not meant to keep out mexicans, who corporatists believe they need in order to maximize profit margins, and one can only wonder whats up in Trumps mind about this. Maybe he has construction buddies in the wall business. Somebody should check that out

                      Ive known some really great mexican people, but all in all, I realize its a downgrade for existing immigrants to flood the states with more. It would be different if Mexico was Denmark, then I dont think people would mind, illustrating that culture DOES make a difference. By the way, mexicans werent always happy that I lived in their country either, so theres that

    • 97% of Pysch people are liberal, doesnt that worry you?

    • Give it up doc…

      You are more atrocious than the crap you continually preach against…

      Dane brammage? Nah, just misguided? Real? Nahhhh mis guidedness…

      Yep that's it for real…

      How'd it happen…

      https://youtu.be/l482T0yNkeo

      Hummmmmmmmmmmmmm….

      Hummmmmmmm.

      • DUDe DUDe

        Who is the "doc" you mention HD ?

      • Now all you no reasearchin goobers already know that the highway to hell was a stretch of road in Australia that people were dying on after having a few drinks at the bar right? Not…

        Just another mystery for fools I'd guess that think they know what?

        Danne bramage knows no bounds…

        https://youtu.be/l482T0yNkeo

        And Bon Scott died in Angus young's (like that's really his given name) front yard…

        Real facts? Trump trump's haters every time?

        Watta joke for those that already know…

        Really want to save our county and our children?

        Here's a reason to get mad…

        https://youtu.be/fZLeaSWY37I

        "Never mind"

      • HD, calling me atrocious. And yet you disagree with all the mental heal professions, and love Trump who is racist, and who is selling off all the public lands and destroying the environment and who is supporting nuclear energy and coal with a proposed wartime need to destroy the environment.

        When the environment is totally destroyed that is really warfare against his own people including you.

        And yet you say he is sane?

        And you also disagree with the vast majority of Americans? Do you hate democracy as well? Is this because you love guns more than the environment? When there is no longer oxygen left to breathe, what will you state with your last dying breath: But we thought Trump was sane?

        Monday, April 23
        President Trump Job Approval
        Gallup
        Approve 38, Disapprove 57
        Disapprove +19
        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

        Trump destroys reality and calls everything fake news. When Trump has destroyed your wealth, then what will you say? But we thought Trump was wonderful and sane because guns are more important than people.

        • TYPO: you disagree with all the mental health experts.

          And why do you hate the rule of law? What will you say if your wealth is stolen because there is no longer left any rule of law.

          Trump attacks the Constitution continually even though he has sworn to uphold the Constitution. Who will protect your wealth when Trump and his wealthy domestic and foreign oligarchs have taken over?

          • Who will protect your wealth when there is no longer any free journalism? Who will protect your wealth when there is no longer free speech on the internet or anywhere else?

            Your guns won't save you. We have seen this over and over again. Only the rule of law is stronger than the guns. So why destroy the rule of law?

            • Why is it atrocious to disagree with a demagogue? Trump can only declare bankruptcy to get out of paying any taxes at all. In the end, we will all suffer for every action of Trump's. It is extremely naive to believe anything else. Did Hitler destroy himself and his whole country? Insanity can do nothing good and it is a fool who attaches his ship to an insane person.

              Good luck. We will all need it.

              It would be better to focus on the issues and be positive with what you support than calling me names. Name calling is really temper tantrum of a three year old. Even the kids in kindergarten are better socially developed than that.

              And in a democracy people are entitled to their opinions without having to listen to name calling. Name calling is just the mark of a bully and further demagoguery. Why label yourself a demagogue and irrational bully?

              Such actions further marginalize this website. But then all the people who love nuclear don't want anyone to know the truth of the destruction of the earth by nuclear radiation.

              • As to scientific proof that low level radiation it has existed for decades. Wyakin posted citations of the latest research and I have also posted many citations.

                Every time I post important information about nuclear issues on this website it is drowned out by pages and pages of nonsense and I am called names.

                I will work on my own website and all the scientific information about the dangers of nuclear radiation and all radiation.

                And CERN is not about fusion energy which is just as dangerous and nuclear fission. That is a separate group of people. CERN is about developing new weapons as was earlier cyclotron experiments which brought about the atomic bomb. I took the classes on edx.org about plasma physics. Did you?

                • TYPO; As to scientific proof that low level radiation destroys health and causes deaths it has existed for decades.

                  And Trump is also against renewable energy and destroying the environment with oil spills, etc. So blindly follow your demented leader, but thankfully there are more sane and educated people in the US, and even the really wealthy people know that Trump is stealing their wealth.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              repeat this ten times; "rue lala"
              "rue lala"
              "rue lala"
              "rue lala"
              etc etc.

              Then write it on a piece of paper and bow down before it…really prostrate yourself to it, and repeat

              "I submit to the rue lala" another ten times

              Then dump all of your herbs and vitamins on the floor, and whatever weapons you might have…pepper spray, kitchen knives, ice pick…and say

              "I give all my power over to the rue lala, I submit totally to the rue lala, I have no will of my own, I live only for the will of the rue lala. I will never question or break the rue lala, I swear on the bible not my will, but the will of the rue lala be done" repeat this every day

              Then step back for a moment and realize HD wasnt talking about the rue lala, and hardly about Trump. Really? Nahhh.

              • It is only by the rule of law and upholding the Constitution that allows us elections to get rid of the demagogues of the world.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  "It is only by the rule of law and upholding the Constitution that allows us elections to get rid of the demagogues of the world."

                  Trump, real estate tycoon, narcissist and tool of the oligarchs, became president of the U.S. by voting and the rue lala, 2018. Thus, your above statement is a non sequitur. It illustrates how goofy we get under the indoctrination of megalomaniacs and their institutions.

                  Its easy to see the noble intention of the rule of law; which was meant to subject not only the common person but the king and clergy to a common rule of law which they had been above for so many centuries. Of course the road to ruin is paved with noble intentions. Thats where we are now…the ruined stage. The corrupt poisonous mess patriotically supported and apologized for to varying degrees by the proletariat, the goyum. Right here, they have called Trump a saint, an awesome person, a savant.

                  could the situation we find ourselves in be any more grotesque, delusional, freakish, inverted, hypocritical?

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    Exactly..the chains of the rule of law…that mostly benefit the rich.

                    We are all quite insane and it is a constant evolving form of insanity.

                    When one looks at our species it appears we are only concerned with ourselves, selfish, and those others that can be included within our small sphere of influence.

                    Nothing that we do now and nothing that we have done in the past has been done to benefit this planet we all live on. All of it has been done to benefit us personally and/or that very small sphere of influence we may enjoy in our very short lifetime.

                    There is no way this can end well on a finite planet with limited resources that meant to be shared by all species..not just by us very selfish humans.

                    Get all you can..anytime you can..anyway you can..anyhow you can.

                    Sad..but true.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Someday enough people will float alone in space for everyone to realize everyone is floating alone in space…

  • razzz razzz

    'Nicaragua Protests Over the Collapse of Social Security'

    "…Nicaraguans began protesting on Wednesday against measures that increase worker contributions and lower pensions. The economics of Marxism has completely failed and the decline in the birthrates spells doom for most pension models.

    This has been a direct confrontation with Ortega, a former Marxist guerrilla who has had to face the reality of Marxism as did Russia and China. Protestors in Managua threw rocks and set fires in unrest that started Wednesday, and police responded with tear gas and rubber bullets. Late on Saturday, local media stated that a reporter was shot and killed during a live broadcast from Bluefields, a town on Nicaragua’s Caribbean coast that has been hit by the violence.

    This is the CIVIL UNREST that will rise up around the West as socialism continues to collapse. The taxes must rise and the benefits must decline and even that will not keep the social systems in place for more than two years. We will have to face a complete revision of the monetary system. How that is approached will determine if we have violent confrontations with government and the rich are dragged from their homes and hanged as has so often taken place in the past."
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/civil-unrest/nicaragua-protests-over-the-collapse-of-social-security/

  • razzz razzz

    I can't choose 'Startpage' for my search browser, it is not shown in the option list of browsers.

    'What’s Wrong with the Internet'

    "…Facebook, Microsoft and everyone else came up with the whole idea that they had the right to collect your personal information and sell it to advertisers to make money. You cannot even buy a computer to use as a quote screen because Microsoft wants to search that computer to see what you are looking at to sell to others. You are paying even for a Pro version of windows and it still does not allow you the block Microsoft.

    In the office, we turned off our automatic updates to Windows 10 and discovered that two computers CRASHED within minutes and required reboots. That was Microsoft’s clever way of getting into your computer one way or another. If you have Windows 7 – cherish it. Never let it go.

    If you are willing to pay for a product, then you should have the right to ABSOLUTE privacy. This is a very seriously wrong business model that should be outlawed. Personal data is personal. It is not there for the reading pleasure of government or Mark Zuckerberg. Congress will do nothing to protect our privacy rights because they too enjoy profiling us for political purposes. We should not allow our personal data to be collected for sale or those of our children. It is time to demand respect for our right to privacy."
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/whats-wrong-with-the-internet/

    • Try using Firefox as your browser, then you can set Startpage as your home-page and as your search engine. If that doesn't work, get a Mac and do it, been using Startpage for years with ease with my Mac. I tried that "Duck" thingy, had a visitor from China to my website, right after setting it up. Is that "Duck" from China??? Never had a visitor from China before. WTF?

  • razzz razzz

    There is the letter of the law then the spirit of the law. Then there is collecting fines to fund your own job.

    'Woman fined $500 for saving free Delta Air Lines snack'

    "…A CBP spokesperson said in a comment to Fox News that "all agricultural items must be declared."

    "Prohibited items that are not declared by a passenger are confiscated and disposed of by CBP. More importantly, civil penalties may be assessed for failure to declare prohibited agricultural products and may range up to 1,000 dollars per first-time offense for non commercial quantities. If the items are determined to be for commercial use, violations will be assessed at a much higher rate," the statement read.
    According to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection website, “every fruit or vegetable must be declared to a CBP Agriculture Specialist or CBP Officer and must be presented for inspection.”

    A spokesperson for Delta said in a statement to Fox News: “We encourage customers to adhere to U.S. Customs and Border Protection policies and requirements.”

    Tadlock is planning to fight the charge in court"
    http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/04/22/woman-fined-500-for-saving-free-delta-air-lines-snack.amp.html

  • DUDe DUDe

    Pruitt promised polluters EPA will value their profits over American lives

    Pruitt is one of TIME’s 100 most influential people for his efforts to maximize polluters’ profits

    TIME magazine announced last week that Trump’s EPA administrator Scott Pruitt is among their 100 most influential people of 2018. George W. Bush’s former EPA administrator Christine Todd Whitman delivered the scathing explanation:

    If his actions continue in the same direction, during Pruitt’s term at the EPA the environment will be threatened instead of protected, and human health endangered instead of preserved, all with no long-term benefit to the economy.

    As a perfect example of those actions, the Daily Caller recently reported that at a gathering at the fossil fuel-funded Heritage Institute, Pruitt announced that the EPA and federal government will soon end two important science-based practices in evaluating the costs and benefits of regulations.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/apr/23/pruitt-promised-polluters-epa-will-value-their-profits-over-american-lives

  • DUDe DUDe

    Examining the Kochtopus (aka rightwing party puppetmasters)

    "Multibillionaires Charles and David Koch want nothing less than to supplant America's core democratic principle of majority rule — the will of The People — with their core plutocratic principle of inviolable property rights, also known as domination by the wealthy minority. Their notion is that "property" (accumulated wealth and the means to get it) is sacrosanct and cannot be restricted by the pesky majority for the Common Good. Cloaking their efforts with layers of dark-money front groups, the Koch brothers have used their enormous assets to mount a far-ranging, ultrasophisticated assault on American democracy.

    From their early involvement in The John Birch Society (daddy Fred Koch being an early member), they continued their rightward march, and by the 1970s, both had plunged into the abyss of a laissez-fairyland plutocracy. With the fervor of religious cultists, they've devoted themselves to the cause of "liberty" — by which they mean the government's only proper role is keeping the avaricious pursuits of the wealthy owner class free from any interference by you, me and the democratic "us." They believe that We The People can neither tax the riches of the owner class nor set rules on how it treats workers, consumers, nature … and society as a whole."

    • DUDe DUDe

      "Even more shocking than their arrogance is just how far they've come and are willing to go with this scheme. For nearly 40 years, they and their uber-rich allies have been battering the legal structures and mechanisms that give ordinary people some chance to control their own destinies. Among the brothers' goals are the following:

      — Kill all restrictions on political spending by corporations and the rich.

      — Suppress the voting rights of students, people of color, the elderly and others who tend to oppose Republican policies and candidates.

      — Massacre labor unions.

      — Eliminate the right of consumers, workers and others to sue corporations, forcing them instead into corporate-controlled arbitration.

      — Rip to shreds the social safety net including food stamps, jobless benefits, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

      — Ax regulations that protect people and our environment from corporate abuse.

      — "Preempt" the right of local people to pass laws that corporations oppose.

      — Subvert democracy through gerrymandering.

      — Pack courts with pro-corporate judges.

      The effect of these and hundreds of other national, state and local attacks is that the wealthy few are now grabbing evermore societal wealth and power, shattering America's commitment to the Common Good. It adds up to a coup — and yet, because it has been built slowly and with deliberate stealth over decades, the public has not yet fully grasped the enormity, complexity and effectiveness of…

    • the Kochs are just suckers in relation to Soros and his butt buddies.

  • DUDe DUDe

    Pruitt Plot Thickens: Koch Industries Bought Stake in LNG Giant Cheniere

    EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt has made headlines over the past week over revelations that he has been renting a townhouse from the wife of the lobbyist for Cheniere Energy for below-market cost. Cheniere is the nation’s largest exporter of liquefied natural gas (LNG), and landed a multi-billion contract to supply China’s market last November. The townhouse is owned by the wife of J. Steven Hart, who runs the lobbying firm that represents Cheniere and other fossil fuel corporations.

    It has also been reported that, while enjoying the $50-per-night perks of his D.C. townhouse, Pruitt and members of his staff spent about $40,000 in taxpayer funds to fly to Morocco in December to help encourage the North African kingdom to import LNG from the United States, despite the fact that the EPA does not regulate LNG exports. Cheniere owns the only currently operational LNG export terminal, so Pruitt’s plug directly benefitted the company’s interests.

    Cheniere paid Hart’s firm $80,000 in 2017 to lobby on “issues related to the export of liquefied natural gas (LNG), approval of LNG exports and export facilities.”

    It is also well reported that Pruitt has numerous ties to organizations funded by the Kochs, and that the Kochs spent millions to promote Pruitt’s nomination to head the EPA.

  • DUDe DUDe

    So when we finished tomorrow or the day after our deviant omnicidal greed and corruption drooling from all orifices existence..its over for Earth-Life..with the Sun only staying in the life-supporting mode for just a billion year more or so..no time to recover from manmade nuclear powerplants melting and oozing all over Earth's bio-sphere..
    Lights out..no one home

    —-

    Neil DeGrasse Tyson's Earth Day Post

    "Right now, Earth could survive for at least 5 billion more years when the sun's torch finally snuffs out — short of a major catastrophic event before that, like a volcanic apocalypse or another asteroid clobbering. Humans could potentially last another 1 billion years before the sun becomes too hot for life on Earth to be habitable, reported Science X. But to make it that far, people would have to mitigate the risk factors that are accelerating the destruction of human civilization."

    Save the planet? Maybe not. Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson's Earth Day post told us why "Save Earth" is kind of a pointless rallying call. On Earth Day Sunday, the famous scientist went on Twitter to correct the popular phrase, writing:

    The perennial cry to “Save Earth" is odd. Planet Earth survives massive asteroid strikes — it'll survive anything we throw at it. But Life on Earth will not.

    https://www.bustle.com/p/neil-degrasse-tysons-earth-day-post-is-a-piece-of-wisdom-to-keep-in-mind-year-round-8865142

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    Republican lawmakers threaten to jail Colorado teachers if they strike
    Teachers could face hundreds of dollars in fines, jail time, or both.

    Colorado teachers are preparing to stage walkouts in favor of higher wages and more education funding later this week, but Republican legislation in the state Senate could penalize them for striking — with far-reaching punishments that include fines and jail time.

    The measure, SB18-264, would prohibit public school teachers and unions from participating in or organizing a strike. If a strike is planned, the school would be authorized to seek an injunction from the district court. Teachers who violate the injunction would be “punished with fines or up to 6 months in county jail, or both.” The legislation would also allow a public school to fire teachers who do not comply with the injunction.

    The bill was introduced last Friday, just as teachers in the southern city of Pueblo, Colorado voted to go on strike, and informed state legislators of their plans to do so.

    https://thinkprogress.org/republican-bill-punish-teachers-strike-colorado-4a7b9a4f1cfb/

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    World's first ocean plastic-cleaning machine set to tackle Great Pacific Garbage Patch

    Pioneering effort to collect debris that kills wildlife about to begin after teenager made his dream come true

    Scientists are preparing to launch the world's first machine to clean up the planet's largest mass of ocean plastic.

    The system, originally dreamed up by a teenager, will be shipped out this summer to the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, between Hawaii and California, and which contains an estimated 1.8 trillion pieces of plastic.

    It will be the first ever attempt to tackle the patch since it was discovered in 1997.

    The experts believe the machine should be able to collect half of the detritus in the patch – about 40,000 metric tons – within five years.

    In the past few weeks they have been busy welding together giant tubes that will sit on the surface of the sea and form the skeleton of the machine, creating the largest floating barrier ever made.

    The Great Pacific Garbage Patch (GPGP) spans 617,763 sq miles – more than twice the size of France, and contains at least 79,000 tons of plastic, research found last month.

    Most of it is made up of “ghost gear” – parts of abandoned and lost fishing gear, such as nets and ropes – often from illegal fishing vessels.

    Ghost gear kills more than 100,000 whales, dolphins and seals each year, according to scientific surveys. Seabirds and other marine life are increasingly being found dead with stomachs full of small…

  • IBM now promoting the decimation of Plankton, which is good. Of course, their second sentence is caused by climate change.

    anywho….check it out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynyjBlVWYWg&feature=youtu.be

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