FORUM: Off-Topic Discussion Thread (Non-Nuclear Issues) — New as of January 2017

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  • DUDe DUDe

    Corruption, Terrorism, And Mafia: The Global Black Market For Oil

    The value of the crude oil production alone is worth a staggering $1.7 trillion each year. Add downstream fuels and other services to that, and oil is a money-making machine. As VisualCapitalist's Jeff Desjardins notes, both companies and governments take advantage of this resource wealth. More of the world’s largest companies work in the oil patch than any other industry. At the same, entire government regimes are kept intact thanks to oil revenues.

    The only problem when an industry becomes this lucrative? Eventually, everybody wants a piece of the pie – and they’ll do anything to get their share.


    May 17..ETP Spills Two Million Gallons of Drilling Material in Ohio (wetlands)

    "Energy Transfer Partners has dumped millions of gallons of a milkshake-like substance into pristine wetlands,”


    US government fails to track toxic spills in nation’s waterways

    When The Air Turned Green

    1991- The pesticide that spilled into the river is a fumigant. So, when combined with water, it created a toxic gas that billowed 45 miles downriver to Shasta Lake, where the chemical dispersed.

    .. more than 25 years later, the National Response Center database, managed by the U.S. Coast Guard and used by the Environmental Protection Agency, still lists “0” as the amount spilled into the river. In the database, federal agencies never have listed the amount of metam sodium that seeped into the ecosystem.



    Documents indicate chemical leaks at U.S. base have polluted Okinawa water supply.

    The internal reports expose a spate of accidents at the base during the PAST 15 YEARS that have involved at least 21,000 liters of fire extinguishing agents — 'some' of them toxic.




    The strategy is called monitored natural attenuation, or MNA.

    The REAL 'stategy' ..

    laissez faire, lit. 'let do') is an economic system in which transactions between private parties are free from government intervention such as regulation, privileges, tariffs, and subsidies.

    As we all die-off


  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Pope Francis acknowledges 2,000-case backlog in sex abuse cases
    May 14 2017

    Then some things go on forever.
    Like dragging children in to purgatory.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    How 'embedded' are Humans in purgatory?
    That 'mythical' place between Heaven and Hell?

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      In sociology, deviance describes an action or behavior that violates social norms, including a formally enacted rule (e.g., crime), as well as informal violations of social norms (e.g., rejecting folkways and mores).
      Deviance (sociology) – Wikipedia

      Think chambers with/surrounded by stained glass…what could go wrong within this dark solitude created for one's body and mind?

      Why create such a place.. in the first place?

      Think in time lines..glide/fly over the knowledge base supplied.. while looking down along the way.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Yet another reason Donald Trump is bad news: He’s utterly lacking in “integrative complexity” — and that’s dangerous

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Here's another one 'lacking'…

    Report: Hillary Clinton Rallies Donors at Haim Saban’s House in Beverly Hills
    May 12 2017

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Sorry we failed you, mom.
    Thank you for gracing me with your sweet fragrance today.

    Happy Mothers Day, Nuclear.

  • Jebus Jebus

    International Uranium Film Festival: for a World Free of Nuclear Risks

    The non-profit International Uranium Film Festival – the Atomic Age Cinema Fest – was founded in 2010, a few months before the Fukushima nuclear accident in Rio de Janeiro to show films about the risks of nuclear power and radioactivity. Today, it is the world most important nuclear film event creating nuclear awareness globally.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Yes, Happy Mothers Day Mom!

    What's for dinner?

  • Jebus Jebus

    Oregon fishery managers have postponed a catch-and-release salmon and steelhead fishery on the Columbia River set to open this weekend, and say abnormal water conditions this spring have flung them, and their ability to predict what will happen next, into new territory.

    As of Wednesday, only 26,000 of the approximately 160,000 forecasted upriver spring Chinook salmon had been counted at Bonneville Dam, according to the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife. This low count, coupled with the number of fish that fishermen in a recreational fishery downstream of the dam have already caught, is delaying the opener of an annual recreational jack Chinook salmon and hatchery steelhead fishery. This fishery allows fishing from Tongue Point to upriver at the Interstate 5 bridge.

    But fishery managers are also looking at extremely high flow levels on the Columbia River as well as cooler water temperatures — basically the opposite of what they were dealing with in 2015 when drought conditions in the Pacific Northwest worsened in the summer and affected fish all along the Columbia River, with water temperatures at Bonneville Dam rising to almost 5 degrees over the 10-year average.

    Too much water too cold… 😐

  • Jebus Jebus

    Highlights from the Annual Report

    Fisheries Economics of the United States, 2015

    Impact of Environmental Variability on Our Fishing Economy

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Resting or dying?
    Looking for the missing fish?

    Amazing aerial view of dozens of sea lions resting in Alaska

    Same location..

    Dead murres wash up on Haines’ beach

  • Jebus Jebus

    Nature Does Not Grade On A Curve – 2017 May 13 – Ian Welsh

  • Jebus Jebus

    Exactly. It's just not important enough yet.

    Carry on…

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    This is the 3rd straight weekend with out any chemtrails. During the week it is still lights out spraying for all to see though no one does.

    • Jebus Jebus

      We have had them continously in the early morning hours.

      Sam hears them too, expecting to see fireworks explode.

      They were making big loops again over Portland this week as the Sun came up…

      • Dazy Dazy

        We have had them continuously as well, early morning hours and they are dissipating faster now so I suspect they may be using a different formulation compared to the heavy black gunk that falls down quickly. I think it's still there, and probably worse for us.

        Along the lines of 'fragrance free' solvents, still there, you just can't smell it.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Cannot remember one day in years we haven't had them in the CA Central Valley. Relentless spraying ….

          We DID see the sun for awhile on Sunday in a VERY blue sky. However, the cheming had gone on earlier in the day, causing low elevation thunderstorms.

          How I miss the high altitude clouds and amazing thunderstorm clouds we used to see.

          The thunderstorms now are just freakish. They look like they are ready to spawn tornadoes at any second. It's very alarming, because one feels like one has to be on guard constantly. There are a lot more funnel clouds forming with these storms.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Interesting to see how deep the financial wound goes…

    Western Digital Seeks Right to Block Toshiba Deal in Arbitration

    The companies are increasingly at odds as Toshiba tries to raise cash needed to keep itself afloat following a disastrous investment in nuclear power. The joint venture may find itself at risk if Toshiba’s chipmaking operation is snapped up by a Western Digital competitor. Western Digital executives have described Toshiba’s situation as “desperate.”

  • DUDe DUDe

    Humans have destroyed a tenth of Earth's wilderness in 25 years – study

    Experts warn there may be no unspoilt places left within a century as report shows an area twice the size of Alaska has been lost since 1993
    Humans have destroyed a tenth of Earth’s remaining wilderness in the last 25 years and there may be none left within a century if trends continue, according to an authoritative new study.

    Researchers found a vast area the size of two Alaskas – 3.3m square kilometres – had been tarnished by human activities between 1993 and today, which experts said was a “shockingly bad” and “profoundly large number”.

    The Amazon accounted for nearly a third of the “catastrophic” loss, showing huge tracts of pristine rainforest are still being disrupted despite the Brazilian government slowing deforestation rates in recent years. A further 14% disappeared in central Africa, home to thousands of species including forest elephants and chimpanzees.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      James Clapper: democratic institutions are 'under assault' by Trump

      Former national intelligence director hammers the president’s actions, calling James Comey’s firing ‘another victory for Russia’

      “…An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released on Sunday found only 29% of Americans approved of Comey’s firing, while 78% supported an independent commission or special prosecutor to investigate Russia’s interference in the election….”

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Oh Boy! Hope it will be a good impeachment! I am sure it will be!

      • DUDe DUDe

        Yeah..its been a while since we had a "good" one..lolol

        • DUDe DUDe

          But if we cant impeach the whole system of psycho's clean..whats next ? 🙁

          BTW , they say he has ties to the russian mob..dont know if true or not..hes character raises no objections to the posiibility..but then again..lots of powers at work..
          But Zembla makes good penetrating docs normally..

          • DUDe, just saying….the DailyKOS is funded by Globalist groups. I have been banned maybe 3 times just for speaking truth.

            When it comes to facts, you know yourself that I don't lie.

            I have opinions, but facts are never twisted in my writings.

            • I'm banned there, too! And I am also banned from HuffPo, Raw Story and Democratic Underground! And the TED talks website! I take it all as a badge of honor, but it sad that those sites are referenced as truth and fact by so many progressive types.

            • DUDe DUDe

              stock i dont know bout DailyKos and have no particular reason to doubt what you say about them..but Zembla makes good docs..and it seems unlikely to me they would fabricate the whole thing..but never say never in worldplay politics and propaganda..
              Besides..i havent watched it yet lol..
              But i have said during the campaign i was afraid he was connected to mobsters..based on what he himself said on live TV..

              And seriously..why even try to keep the guy any longer..the few things he promised to do that where interesting he already switched to the opposite..and there is not much to like left..but plenty to panic about..
              This planet not only NEEDS an overhaul at the very top but of the entire system..brick by brick or bulldoze..whatever gives the best should be bulldozing to prevent recovery and regrouping of the psycho's imo..litle time left..

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                If campaign promises were kept, the President (whomever that might be) would probably be dispatched summarily to the other world.

                Am pretty convinced this two-party nonsense in the U.S. is just a charade & a distraction. The real decision making takes place at levels to which we are not privy.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      I read about a month ago from a senator on the senate intelligence committee that he will be given a chance to resign.

      Trump is threatening about tapes. And both Republicans and Democrats are already calling for Trump to surrender the tapes of his meeting with Comey in, I think, January.

      But it is the foreign bribes that are the worst.

      • razzz razzz

        Dr. Count: If you have noticed, the entrenched lifetime politicians and including all the former presidents bad mouth Trump, that is because they are running scared of being outed. There has been so many arrests lately on pedophile charges throughout the country and extending into Canada that the higher ups are becoming nervous about it and about many other past and ongoing corrupt actions of theirs.

        O'buummer and hillary get a free pass on everything from being involved in Russia's purchase of US uranium to play for pay contributions as o'bummer is collecting now for his past in-office favoritism not to mention hillary's criminal mishandling of top secret information.

        But what you are reporting on is only spotlighted in the fake news channels and publications, anyone else doesn't care for the bullshit news. Trump's only interest in Russia was holding one of his beauty pageants there.

        As soon as Trump appoints a new FBI chief then James Clapper will be dismissed also as another had been.

        In time, you will see how deep the corruption goes and how long it takes to root it out. The brighter the light becomes the more they lash out.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Who would that be? Diane Feinstein?

  • hbjon hbjon

    Who gets to play around on the Oroville piles?

    • razzz razzz

      I see where Gov. Moonbeam is asking Trump for federal (taxpayer) dollars to help build his Californian train to nowhere. The approved ballot imitative was written that if preliminary thresholds were not met for funding then no bonds could ever be issued to fund construction, Moonbeam is trying to get around that language.

      Orville dam repairs are a joke. They need to build a new spillway with new gates at some other chosen location. Besides that, they have a reoccurring leak on the dam itself that they continue to ignore and failed to address in years past.

      • hbjon hbjon

        On the record, "shut the spillway gates and start work on the dam chute". Workers need to stop shooting the shit and start picking up the pieces of the shot chute. Shucks.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Times are a changing and I would not have done the high speed rail the way they are doing it..they all got very greedy. It could have been done for a fraction of the cost and could have been self sufficient..thinking is about just that.. thinking out side the box.. and not about one's pocket book.

        These are all called robots..makes that lithium found in the middle east.. pretty important.

        Cars will die out by 2030 as electric self-driving car shares take over our roads, according to a new report.
        Ninety-five per cent of miles travelled in the US will happen in autonomous vehicles owned by fleets rather than individuals in just over a decade, researchers found.
        This new technology will be up to ten times cheaper than buying a new car and will bring an end to more than 100 years of individual vehicle ownership.

        Read more:
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        • hbjon hbjon

          Is lithium a product of petroleum?

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            I have posted this before but will do again for you. 🙂

            The webs woven behind the scenes are often very subtle on purpose as are the dates often used.

            “The War is Worth Waging”: Afghanistan's Vast Reserves of Minerals …

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              The wheels keep on turning..electric cars by 2030/robotics all need raw materials and for now lithium.

              Are you thinking this has all happened by chance? Are you still thinking a bunch of guys living in a cave with a few box cutters got their way? Chuckles!

              Geological surveys conducted by the Soviet Union in the 1970s and early 1980s confirm the existence of vast reserves of copper (among the largest in Eurasia), iron, high grade chrome ore, uranium, beryl, barite, lead, zinc, fluorspar, bauxite, lithium, tantalum, emeralds, gold and silver.(Afghanistan, Mining Annual Review, The Mining Journal, June, 1984). These surveys suggest that the actual value of these reserves could indeed be substantially larger than the one trillion dollars “estimate” intimated by the Pentagon-USCG-USAID study.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Temple Grandin turns the mysteries of autism into guidelines for better living
    Autistic animal scientist urges recognition of ‘minds of a different kind’

    "“When you think in words, you tend to over-generalize,” said Grandin. “Visual thinkers, including some people with autism, ADHD and dyslexia, are all bottom-up thinkers. You need visual thinkers to prevent messes like Fukushima."
    Three of four nuclear reactors melted down at Fukushima-Daiichi in Japan, in the wake of an earthquake and tsunami on March 11, 2011.
    Grandin was referring to the placement of backup generators, necessary to cool the reactors in the event of a power outage, in the low-lying areas of the plant, where they were swamped by the tsunami, causing a station blackout. A photo-realist visual thinker might not have been able to design a nuclear reactor — the talents of pattern-thinking people who excel in math would be important, for example — but she could visualize a tidal wave pouring into the basement and rendering the backup generators useless.
    Different kinds of minds, she said, should work together.
    “We need the people who think differently,” Grandin said. “The world needs all kinds of minds"

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Is that what it is?
    It takes a special mind to understand what has happened at Fukushima?
    Is that why the masses simply can't 'get it'?
    I'll tell you what, folks..
    'IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE' the saying goes.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I agree ..Jebus.

  • razzz razzz

    You can see how O'bummer's administration ruined the democratic party by allowing then encouraging corruption then pretending it never happened as he leaves a bunch of floundering useful idiots in his wake after leaving office.

    The buffoons should just say, "We were just following orders and are guilty, please don't throw us to the mob."

    'IRS execs: Our lives at risk in tea party case'

    "…Details about tea party bias claims against the IRS could remain secret because current and former agency officials say their lives are in danger if they publicly testify about the case.

    Lois Lerner and Holly Paz both have argued in recent court filings that the threat to their lives outweighs the public's right to hear their testimony about how IRS employees in Cincinnati and Washington D.C. handled applications for tax-exempt status from tea party groups…"

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Without the IRS as we know it today..none of this could have ever happened.

      All of it has been a scam from the get go..all of it

      But it seems people just like other livestock like to be is what it is.

      The IRS thumb needs to go away as do many other things..but those that have had the power for a very long time have brought us all to our knees and too the brink of no return.

      They all made a ton of money off the livestock, so they could live the good life, while Mother Earth has suffered deeply.

      Not sure there is a way forward or a way out of this cage/nut house.

      A real Catch 22!

  • Jebus Jebus

    Common reality…

    Robert Azzi: Read carefully – I don’t want Trump impeached

    He’s my president, too, and I want him to finish his term.

    I respect that there’s a segment of the American public, composed mostly of ardent Trumpians, who still believe that Trump is the change agent they voted for and who’ve yet to understand that Trump doesn’t care a damn about them – that they were just his vehicle to power – they who still can’t process the fact that 24 million of them will soon be without health insurance.

    Let them continue to believe and support him.

    Let him stay, please.

    I want him to stay in office because I fear a President Pence more than I fear Trump.

  • DUDe DUDe

    You Are the True Guardians of the Galaxy: A Graduation Message for a Tyrannical Age

    "..There is no shortage of issues on which to take a stand. For instance, on any given night, over half a million people in the U.S. are homeless, and half of them are elderly. There are 46 million Americans living at or below the poverty line, and 16 million children living in households without adequate access to food. Congress creates, on average, more than 50 new criminal laws each year. With more than 2 million Americans in prison, and close to 7 million adults in correctional care, the United States has the largest prison population in the world. At least 2.7 million children in the United States have at least one parent in prison. At least 400 to 500 innocent people are killed by police officers every year. Americans are now eight times more likely to die in a police confrontation than they are to be killed by a terrorist. On an average day in America, over 100 Americans have their homes raided by SWAT teams. It costs the American taxpayer $52.6 billion every year to be spied on by the government intelligence agencies tasked with surveillance, data collection, counterintelligence and covert activities. All the while, since 9/11, the U.S. has spent more than $1.6 trillion to wage wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and police the rest of the world.."

  • Jebus Jebus

    I simultaneously wonder how we got this far and realize completely how we got to where we are…

    • DUDe DUDe

      "..The most violent element in society is ignorance.." -Emma Goldman

      "If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next"

      The future teaches you to be alone
      The present to be afraid and cold
      So if I can shoot rabbits
      Then I can shoot fascists

      Bullets for your brain today
      But we'll forget it all again
      Monuments put from pen to paper
      Turns me into a gutless wonder

      And if you tolerate this
      Then your children will be next
      And if you tolerate this
      Then your children will be next
      Will be next
      Will be next
      Will be next

      Gravity keeps my head down
      Or is it maybe shame
      At being so young and being so vain

      Holes in your head today
      But I'm a pacifist
      I've walked La Ramblas
      But not with real intent

      And if you tolerate this
      Then your children will be next
      And if you tolerate this
      Then your children will be next
      Will be next
      Will be next
      Will be next
      Will be next

      And on the street tonight an old man plays
      With newspaper cuttings of his glory days

      And if you tolerate this
      Then your children will be next
      And if you tolerate this
      Then your children will be next
      Will be next
      Will be next
      Will be next

      • freebywill

        Powerful video DUDe, I loved/hated it. A gem buried amidst all the shitposts.

        Made me cry like a baby.

        No longer the inline weapon warrior now relegated to online word warrior, just doesn't feel to be enough.

        Can only counter the feeling of despair with a little hope.

        10 mins | 0:05 / 9:50
        THE WAYSEER MANIFESTO – [Official Video] (HQ) |

        Swimming out to meet the tsunami.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks


          Love it! 🙂

          Yes, the flame is a very bright light and very powerful Force that burns brightly within all life!

          We must protect all the life still present!

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Very Powerful Dude! 🙂

        If we have a cruel, brutal, warring world/existence, it is because we all allowed it to be created this way. 🙁

        • DUDe DUDe

          Awesome video freebywill indeed good antidote THX! Yes , i cried alot watching countless variants to make sure i linked a decent one lol..:( 🙂

          • DUDe DUDe

            Thx obe..yes our vile vain/ignorant side conformistic with regardless what as long as we dont pay the price directly (but we do too) has allowed it all to degenerate in to this point in time where we are now..

            And the last few centuries that lowest drive/dynamic of ourselves in the whole western world got hijacked and stimulated by the zionist bankers..channeled/focused for the sole purpose of the greater good (read global dominance) of Israel/USA..
            For ZION !, We all burn in hell..:(

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Autism And Nuclear Proliferation

      “During the last 100+ years which coincides with my life (I am 61) for the most part, the entire planet has been assaulted by high levels of human-created radiation of all sorts. From alpha to gamma rays, uranium mining and the use of glow in the dark materials, the production of materials for industry and above all, nuclear bombs and nuclear power: the amount of radiation we are exposed to today is higher and more frequent than in other eras. And this is causing cancer and birth defects. And one defect rising higher and higher is autism which today has been declared a gene mutation problem.

      “Radiation causes huge problems for human reproductive systems. Women develop a lifetime’s supply of eggs early in life. These are then exposed to radiation. Over time, these rays of energy hit chromosomes and cause the nucleotide to be altered so in the ATCG structure of the gene is shifted so an ‘A’ can be replaced with a’G’, for example. Elements can be even entirely eliminated from the DNA or RNA strands. Cosmic rays cause this problem, too….”

    • Down The River Down The River

      That is one sick, twisted article.

      How can you turn Trump’s views that vaccines cause autism into a “Donald Trump Will Be A Disaster For Autistic People”

      From the article:
      “Toying with Kennedy and bringing up autism yet again is just one way that Trump threatens this nation's autistic population. And yes, it is a threat because every time someone raises autism as a specter and consequence to fear from vaccines, autism gets cast as the bogeyman.”


      Articles like this “cast autism as the bogeyman”. Trump and Kennedy are clearly saying that vaccines are the bogeyman.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        The autism problem is still up for discussion/debate/discovery.. 🙁

        Monsanto’s Roundup Herbicide May Be Most Important Factor in Development of Autism and Other Chronic Disease

        One thing we don't what we do not know.

        Poison is poison and it will have a negative effect on all life at some point in the food chains affected.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        DTR, I posted 2 articles. One said that nuclear mutates genes and autism is caused by a mutated gene. Hence, it is so much vacines, but radiation destroyed the sperm of the male and the eggs of the female parents.

        The reason Trump is a disaster for autistic persons, if you had just read all that article, is because Trump's health care cuts will hurt all the autistic children [except for the very rich and representatives and senators who have better health care] and others with mental health problems because preexisting conditions won't be covered and autism is a preexisting condition.

        All the children with wifi in the schools and where they live and cell phones in their pocets and on their ears plus all the nuclear radiation and destruction of the ozone layer are going to be having mutant babies. The health care system and the school system won't be able to take care of all of them. Destroying all life is extremely sad. Who will take care of the nuclear reactors, nuclear weapons, and nuclear waste? The IQ levels are already lowered.

        Did you know that after a child has been on a cell phone it takes 2 hours for the brain to go back to what it was before the child was on the cell phone? Diminished cognition keeps people from having good judgment.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          Obamacare helps autistic children to be diagnosed earlier and pays for programs which address the problems of autistic children and early diagnosis and helping programs improves the cognitive function of autistic children.

  • PT, most people are sick of your Trump bashing. The guy is our President, he will not be impeached for anything done so far, as much as the globalists controlling the left would like.

    What I see is that the globalist, upon threat of losing traction on their precious and disgusting new world order, have played the Russia card (and there is ZERO proof ever submitted anywhere) and inflamed world tension, risking nuclear war, to get their globalist agenda back on track.

    You join them with your constant bashing, unwittingly or not.

    We should all hope that Trump can make positive changes. He is our president. He will make some mistakes for sure, but things like simplifying taxes and reduces some regulations are so necessary.

    And the stupid arse plot to tax carbon, by the globalists as a means to not just transfer wealth but also to control energy sources, it is great that smart and powerful people are past that mental trap. Simple thought experiment. If it were really about controlling carbon, why has not a single organization spoke of planting 100,000,000 trees====answer—-because it is not about "carbon"

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      I wanted to say something, but I'll sit this one out.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Oh My!

      How we humans seem to struggle constantly in order to find some sort of peaceful sanity inside a world of constant insanity that always seems to be in motion.

      We are the NWO!

      Not sure how many times I have to repeat it. 🙂

      Dates are very, very important for some..
      George Bush Sr. New World Order Live Speech Sept 11 1991 – YouTube
      Video for George bush new world order speech youtube▶ 1:52

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      PT, found your autism link. Stock, Trump has failed you. Look at his cabinet. Look at his environmental policy. Look at his solar support, or lack of- he won't even mention it! Look at his support for nukes OF ALL TYPES. DAPL… mining, allowing the US to be governed by foreign interest$. Russia?? What about France? Areva? Saudi Arabia? Oil? Fracking? He is a greedy corporate planet killer and has an agenda to make nice with all of the other corporate planet killers he always wanted to look up to him. His priorities have become clear, despite our want/need for a government by and for the people. Time for Trump voters to realize. We're screwed.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        One of the greatest hoodwinks of all time..I could not have expected anything less.

        Very few are on our level of knowledge base and even fewer notice or even care like we all do here.

        This will be a very long hard battle..saving this Earth from ourselves.

      • HHD, the option was Hillary, so there was no option.

        Bernie socialism is also a subdued speed path to total failure.

        Yes I am surprised at some of his actions, and not in a good way. maybe the swamp was too vast.

        I think they found a way to lie to him while pandering to his ego to get expected results, like bomb Syria.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Exactly! "so there was no option"

          If one can absorb the vast knowledge base supplied.. then one knows what the stakes are at hand.

          Hoodwink is a process..always follow the money!

          Humans are very easy to herd…like sheep.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          The Republicans could have done something during the nominating process. There is no way that the policies of Hillary would have been as bad as Trump's. Also his health and mental derangement is much worse. And he has ignored the Constitution from day one.

          What Trump says is not the truth and doesn't even logically make sense.

          • PT Like feeding radioactive food to Americans to get Japan buy in on NWO policies, on Kissinger advice.

            Like that?

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

              Trump is still doing the same thing. Whatever Hillary signed was ordered by Obama. Secretaries of State have no power to make any decisions. Hillary in the past did work for the environment. In 2008 she said that there should be no nuclear energy until the nuclear waste problem was solved. As a Senator she tried to shut down NY nuclear reactors. Bill Clinton is also on record as saying we need to switch to solar and wind and not continue nuclear.

              • She got that shit idea from Kissinger, she and Obama both dance to the puppet strings of the Soros, Rothschilds, et al Bilderberg criminals who think they hold the high moral ground and are doing what is right for humanity.

                See the problem?

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  Trump has also met 3 times with Kissinger, the last time just last week.

                  GMOs are not allowed in other countries. If the government cared about anyone, they would at least put that on the label.

                  I want to cry when I see people using cell phones. And especially children. There are many doctors who say that no children should be using cell phones except in the direst emergency.

                  And all cell phones come with the required warning that they are not safe if they are closer than 1 inch from the body. I guess you should use an air tube to type and figure out how to pick it up and turn it on while it is at least one inch away. Most of the damage is when it is closer than 6 inches.

                  The cell phone transmissions and wifi are so loud in my house it is terrible. I bought some mylar solar blankets to put in the windows (aluminum screens work also, but are much more expensive).

                  They say you should stand on the earth barefoot or on grass barefoot for at least 10 minutes a day.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    I'll try not to talk so much. My password wouldn't work. I thought I was banned. I went to my email, and when I came back it was working.
                    I don't think there is anything left to say about Trump anyway. They say, "To the enemy, a silver arrow." (i.e., make it easy for them to leave.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    He dances to all those people also. But doesn't seem to be able to remember what he should do. I think he is firing all his advisors this week. He knows how to do that.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Regan with Alzheimer's still did pretty well (if someone were a Republican). Trump hasn't a clue.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Trump is down to 38% approval with a Gallup poll today. It's probably all downhill from here unless he starts a war and some people like that. Strange. Why would some people approve a war?

                      President Trump Job Approval
                      Approve 38, Disapprove 57


                  • unincredulous unincredulous

                    I remember Trump saying that he was not a political insider…

                    The other day when Trump said Kissinger was an old friend of his…

                    Perfectly believable…

                    I run into Kissinger all the time…

                    Doesn't everyone?

                    I was at the store just last week asking Kissinger how to pick out motorcycle tires…

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      The news is the news. This is a news aggregate site. A democracy is only possible if people read all the news. I read lots of news I don't agree with, but you are welcome to post the news articles from the news agencies you trust.

      It is impossible to argue against viewpoints if a person doesn't even know what they are.

      What I post is just news that other people are writing. My postings don't affect how those in power make their decisions.

      If people want to vote their own self interest that need to be informed.

      How many times do I have to listen to Pizzagate or so-called false flag events? It isn't a blog if there is just one viewpoint, especially a viewpoint that is destroying the environment. Trump's environmental policies are killing my children and my grandchildren and my great-grandchildren.

      People have rational reasons for the political choices they make. People are not being paid. People are just trying to stay alive and to help their children.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        It is not enough to make a general statement that regulations need to be abolished? One needs to say which regulation and why that person is against that particular regulation. The regulations were all put into place to protect the people.

        The bank failures and following bailout were because certain regulations were done away with. We even had to bailout some foreign banks. We all want less taxes, but they'd be less if we didn't have to bail out the rich bankers and pay for all of Trump's bankruptcies. Trump hasn't paid taxes in many years because he just keeps bring forward his billions and billions of loses in bankruptcies. How many of his creditors lost billions of dollars, and they we have to bail them out. Trump is suffering from kleptomania and he is stealing from the government money to send his family on business trips for his personal business. Why should I pay for that? That government money is my money. Why should I pay for the tax cuts to those earning every years more than $1 million a year?

        So saying simply the tax code is just a generality. What does that mean specifically? Allowing the rich to keep more of their money? There should be an Alternative Minimum Tax for the wealthy. Warren Buffet says that the percentage rate on his vast income is less than the percentage rate his secretary pays. Is that fair?

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Capitalism is not about being is about winning.

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Out of Network? 🙁

            Try out of this world medical bill for a "motel room" for a little baby..$12,742 per day!

            Really? The country is being robbed in broad daylight and nobody notices or cares.

            Finally, the family was able to take the little girl home but the relief was short-lived when Amy opened up a nearly $200,000 hospital bill in March.
            Amy gave birth at an out-of-network hospital and although their insurance would cover some of the delivery costs, she was late in adding Evelyn to the plan, resulting in the astronomical charge.

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            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Don't blame "Satan" for taking advantage of a guarded and stored capitalistic supply chain for the making of personal profits. Satan that was a good it!

              A California cop who pleaded guilty to stealing marijuana during criminal investigations and conspiring to sell it has blamed 'Satan' for his actions.

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            • Obe, NO ONE talks of fixing the outrageous health care system, 400% higher than other developed countries and worse results.

              It's not just the health law, it is more the HEALTH SYSTEM, which if it was even close to OK, the law itself would mean so much less.

              • Jebus Jebus

                🙂 I remember Bernie mentioning it once or twice…

                • Jebus,

                  Any specific ideas he mentioned?
                  Honestly, I don't listen to socialists without a real plan.

                  • Jebus Jebus

                    lol, you live with socialism daily.

                    It is an integral part of this country.

                    It is just a label for sorting and dividing.

                    It is just part of the whole, care for thy neighbor thing. Sharing the wealth, right?

                    As opposed to, I got mine.

                    Here, agree or not, you just said what we have is not working…


                    Again, can only keep trying something.

                    If it's broke, we should fix it.

                    That part is what we are paying taxes for.

                    The socialism part…

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Correct! 🙁

                      Some are protected very well within the many slices of socialism operating throughout/here in the U.S…most are not! 🙁

                      Those people are screwed!

                • OK I missed that….how did he mention it, in a specific way?

                  • Jebus Jebus

                    I'm still waiting for Donald to mention it in a specific way.

                  • Jebus Jebus

                    With american healthcare, one never gets specifics on how far one's work stipend of $350 for new glasses every two years, went, until the statement comes and the insurance was billed and paid over a thousand dollars.

                    I had an out of pocket on that for $348.

                    Healthcare system isn't broke, I am…

                    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                      Yes, but now you have four eyes. <blink, blink>

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      How did they somehow get away with fooling the trapped by law human livestock that their teeth and eyes inside their heads.. were not part of their own bod and therefor not considered healthcare?

                      Americans are very distracted purposefully and then robbed daily.. 🙁

                  • Jebus Jebus

                    It's a good thing they had great health care all through histories past or we would not have made it to the point that people die because it is to expensive to save them with todays expensive technology and boardrooms…

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      The U.S. has one of the worst healthcare systems in the world while being the most expensive on the planet! 🙁

                      Yet, these by law trapped livestock must attend educational facilities.. by law and through force..for 13 years.

                      What the hell are they teaching? How to Bend Over?

        • PT the regulations were rarely put in place to protect the people…but to protect or enhance some special interest, or provide some kickback.

          A vast overhaul would be overwhelmingly good, even if there were some bad too.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar


            Solar and wind. Do you consider them 'special interests'?

            How about regulations to prevent accounting fraud?

            How about regulations to keep the banks from gambling on the stock market?

            How about regulations to stop the MOX facility?

            How about regulations to protect our public lands?

            How about regulations to protect our air, and water and our land?

            How about regulations to prevent fracking?

            How about regulations making the nuclear industry responsible and liable for all their mistakes?

            How about regulations to stop subsidies to nuclear energy?

            How about regulations to prevent use of Yucca MMountain as a nuclear waste site?

            How about regulations to clean up Hanford and other nuclear contaminated sites?

            How about regulations about not transporting nuclear waste all over the nation?

            How about regulations outlawing nuclear weapons and use of depleted uranium?

            etc., etc…..

            We need more regulation if the earth is to survive, not less regulations.

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Yes, Mother Earth breaths, and yes, she is alive! WE should not keep trying to kill her!

            A stunning new animation reveals Earth’s pulsating ‘breaths’ as it moves through a seasonal cycle, showing how vegetation springs up and dies down over the course of a year.

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            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              More Nuclear Power legacy! 🙁 How do they get away with this?

              Seems like a great deal of rust for only 30 years..just saying.

              How are the oceans doing are they bitter too?

              These are the rusting shipwrecks of Chernobyl, left to sink into the river that carried them to the site of the nuclear disaster more than 30 years after the reactor went into meltdown.
              While some of them have been hacked up for scrap by workers brave enough to venture there, many still remain as they were left when everyone fled as radiation filled the air around them.
              Photographer Thomas Windisch captured these eerie images of the remaining vessels which once helped to repair the site, but now lie abandoned.

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  • freebywill

    Trump's EPA Chooses Foreign Mining Interests Over Critical Alaska Watershed

    May 12, 2017 by Nika Knight, staff writer
    "If the Trump administration's strategy is to put a foreign mining company first—and America's greatest wild salmon fishery dead last—then sadly it's succeeding," wrote the NRDC's (Natural Resources Defense Council) Taryn Kiekow Heimer.

    Bristol Bay is a critical wild salmon fishery, providing 46 percent of the world's supply of wild sockeye salmon, according to the NRDC. Its fishery is worth $1.5 billion a year, and it provides habitat for 29 fish species, 40 terrestrial mammal species, and 190 bird species.

    "The proposed Pebble Mine—and its 10 billion tons of mining waste at the headwaters of Bristol Bay—would risk it all," Heimer added.

    "EPA Administer Scott Pruitt claims the settlement is about providing Pebble a 'fair process,' but in reality it's putting Pebble Mine first and Bristol Bay second," Heimer wrote. "If he is really serious about 'listening to all voices as this process unfolds,' then it's time to listen to what the people of Alaska and Bristol Bay want. Spoiler alert: they do not want the Pebble Mine. More than 65 percent of Alaskans, 80 percent of Bristol Bay residents and Native communities, and 85 percent of commercial fishermen oppose the mine."

  • freebywill

    Trump Plan to Turn Public Lands Over to the Oil and Gas Industry Faces Political Backlash

    Friday, May 12, 2017 By Mike Ludwig, Truthout

    Trump's nominee for deputy director of the Interior Department, David Bernhardt, is under fire from conservation and good government groups this week over conflicts of interest stemming from his career as a lobbyist and a past scandal involving scientific documents that watchdogs say were altered to downplay the impacts of oil drilling on a herd of caribou roaming the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

    Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER), a watchdog group representing government workers, has re-released documents
    implicating Bernhardt in an apparent effort at the Interior Department to skew a scientific report to members of Congress on the Arctic caribou herd in favor of the oil industry back in 2001. PEER director Jeff Ruch said Bernhardt "shares an unfortunate affinity for alternative facts."

    "President Trump is putting one of the biggest lobbyists in the DC swamp right into the heart of the Department of the Interior," said Jamie Rappaport Clark, president of the conservation group Defenders of Wildlife, of Bernhardt.

  • freebywill

    Trump’s Expected Pick for Top USDA Scientist Is Not Even a Scientist
    Posted on May 15, 2017

    By Jessica Huseman / ProPublica

    he USDA’s research section studies everything from climate change to nutrition. Under the 2008 Farm Bill, its leader is supposed to serve as the agency’s “chief scientist” and be chosen “from among distinguished scientists with specialized or significant experience in agricultural research, education, and economics.”

    But Sam Clovis — who, according to sources with knowledge of the appointment and members of the agriculture trade press, is President Trump’s pick to oversee the section — appears to have no such credentials.

    Clovis has never taken a graduate course in science and is openly skeptical of climate change. While he has a doctorate in public administration and was a tenured professor of business and public policy at Morningside College for 10 years, he has published almost no academic work.

    Clovis is better known for hosting a conservative talk radio show in his native Iowa and, after mounting an unsuccessful run for Senate in 2014, becoming a fiery pro-Trump advocate on television.

  • Byrian418



  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    As a global leader, the US should be addressing environment and sustainability, job one. Profit margin priorities is contributing only to the demise of both. Our current trajectory is annihilation of all life. Unfortunately, there are too many knowingly or unknowingly supporting this trajectory (billions of people) which could make long-term solutions impossible. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the math. Nor does the nuclear industry require that an autistic person surmise that E=mc^2 at Fukushima. Nuclear poses the biggest threat to our sustainability, is the quickest path to our destruction and should be addressed first. If Trump is not talking about Fukushima, there is nothing he says worth hearing.

  • Byrian418

    There is a weird phenomena happening in the world right now called the Mandela Effect. Please research this on the internet for yourself. But, then, I noticed that scriptures in the King James Bible have been changed. This bible was written in 1611. Not just the new KJ bibles being printed but he old ones that have been in our families forever. So, with that, I knew that no human could do this. This has got to either be God or Satan and if it's Satan, then God is allowing it to happen for some reason. Here are a list of verses that have changed. There may be more to change in the future or maybe these verses will go back to normal. I don't know. But, please research your King James and see it for yourself. Then, who is doing this and what is the motivation behind it. Luke 6:49—when Jesus spoke of not building your house on shifting sand but on the rock….now sand has been changed to EARTH. Mark 13:10—-the word “preached” replaced by PUBLISHED Luke 8:39….”proclaimed” replaced by PUBLISHED Luke 17:31 —the word “possessions” replaced by STUFF In Numbers and Exodus…the word “womb” is mentioned 24 times and has been replaced by MATRIX Job 19:23….”written in a scroll” replaced by PRINTED IN A BOOK Revelations 5…”scroll” replaced by BOOK Genesis 1:1….”heavens” replaced by HEAVEN Isaiah 11:6…instead of the Lion lying with the Lamb it is now the WOLF lying with the Lamb Isaiah 65:25…again WOLF instead of Lion Matthew 6:9-13….”on earth” now IN EARTH…

    • Byrian418

      “trespass” and “trespasser” now DEBT and DEBTORS Matthew 9:17…”wine skins” changed to BOTTLES Mark 2:22…”wine skins” changed to BOTTLES Luke 19:23…”those who lend” has been changed to TAKE IT TO THE BANK Luke 19:27….SLAY THEM BEFORE ME has been inserted. It has never said that. Deuteronomy 17:1….”defect” was replaced by EVILFAVOUREDNESS (I don't think that's a word) Ecclesiastes 3:11….”eternity” replaced by WORLD Matthew 13:15….”waxed cold” replaced by WAXED GROSS Isaiah 60:2…”deep” darkness replaced by GROSS darkness Job 21:24…”his pails” are full of milk has been replaced with HIS BREASTS ARE FULL OF MILK Numbers 11:12….”as a father beareth the sucking child” says AS A NURSING FATHER Luke 1:35…”holy one” replaced by HOLY THING Luke 5:19 and 5:24…”bed” replaced by COUCH Acts 12:4…”Passover” replaced by EASTER Revelation 12:12….”inhabitants” replaced by INHABITERS and AND THE SEA inserted—never there before. Revelation 22:21…added. It previously ended with verse 20. Ruth 4:4…”tell” replaced by ADVERTISE Numbers 24:14..”advise” replaced by ADVERTISE Genesis 40:1…”cupbearer” replaced by BUTLER Romans 5:4….”patience” replaced by EXPERIENCE

  • Byrian418


    0 people died on 9/11 at the Pentagon but now according to history 125 people died at the Pentagon.

  • Jebus Jebus

    There's two implicit messages here…

    Mass die-off in the Pacific as hundreds of sharks wash up on the shores of San Francisco

  • Jebus Jebus

    Breathe. Breathe in the air…

    Coral Reefs Generate Half of Earth's Oxygen and They Could All Die Off by 2050

    Monday, May 15, 2017 By Dahr Jamail, Truthout | Report

  • Jebus Jebus

    Don't be afraid to care…

    Planet or Profit?

    By Staff, Truthout | Environmental Series

  • Jebus Jebus

    Run, rabbit run…

    The Forestry Agency said Monday that it will resume felling and shipping trees in Fukushima Prefecture this autumn on a trial basis.

    Following the triple meltdowns at Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc.’s Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant in March 2011, logging was suspended in 12 municipalities in the northeastern prefecture.

    But radiation levels seem to have declined enough to resume logging in some areas, the agency said.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Dig that hole, forget the sun…

    Pilgrim Station is still lowest-rated, but passes NRC inspection

    As expected, Pilgrim Nuclear Power Station passed the inspection.

    The Nuclear Regulatory Commission released its final report of an inspection stemming from the power plant’s worst in the nation safety rating and while the plant remains in that category, “Pilgrim’s programs and processes support nuclear safety,” according to a statement released by NRC Spokesman Neil Sheehan.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Did we miss the sign that says Event Horizon?

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Trump declared bankruptcy 6 times and his investors are Russian and other foreign investors. He is now a proven traitor to the US.

    Trump Revealed Highly Classified Intelligence to Russia, in Break With Ally, Officials Say

    “WASHINGTON — President Trump boasted about highly classified intelligence in a meeting with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador last week, providing details that could expose the source of the information and the manner in which it was collected, a current and a former American government official said Monday.

    “The intelligence disclosed by Mr. Trump in a meeting with Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, was about an Islamic State plot, according to the officials. A Middle Eastern ally that closely guards its own secrets provided the information, which was considered so sensitive that American officials did not share it widely within the United States government or pass it on to other allies.

    “Mr. Trump’s disclosure does not appear to have been illegal — the president has the power to declassify almost anything. But sharing the information without the express permission of the ally who provided it was a major breach of espionage etiquette, and could jeopardize a crucial intelligence-sharing relationship.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      “In fact, the ally has repeatedly warned American officials that it would cut off access to such sensitive information if it were shared too widely, the former official said. In this case, the fear is that Russia will be able to determine exactly how the information was collected and could disrupt the ally’s espionage efforts.

      “The Washington Post first reported the disclosure.

      “Beyond angering a partner and calling into question the ability of the United States to keep secrets, the episode threatened to overshadow Mr. Trump’s first trip abroad as president. He departs Friday for Saudi Arabia, Israel, Italy and Belgium.

      “The revelation also opens Mr. Trump to criticism of a double standard. The president made Hillary Clinton’s mishandling of classified information through her private email server central to his campaign, leading chants of “lock her up” at rallies. But there was never any indication that Mrs. Clinton exposed sensitive information from an ally or gave it to an adversary….”

  • razzz razzz

    'North Dakota rancher puzzling over calf born with six legs'

    "…“I’ve been ranching my whole life, and I’ve never seen anything like it,” the 59-year-old rancher said as he watched the Black Angus calf’s bald-faced mother come to lick its baby on the nose.

    State Veterinarian Susan Keller said the extra limbs could possibly be one of two similar genetic disorders called polydactyly or polymelia. With polymelia, the extra limbs are often smaller or shrunken in appearance.

    Keller called the defect an “important topic that producers should not be afraid to report to their veterinarian and to all breed associations. … Now that DNA testing is possible for more genetic defects in cattle, it is always good to report findings to the breed association offices so they can help determine if the defect is genetic or due to other potential causes.”…"

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      defect + genetic are one and the same.. 🙁

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      Ask the rancher what antibiotics, vaccines, bgh/hgh/steroids were used, what was in the water, what was in the soil for the feed, what was the feed and what was the feed sprayed with.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        North Dakota is part of the US's Chernobyl:

        3,272 Abandoned Open Pit Uranium Mines & Prospects in the Northern Great Plains-Black Hills, USA

        15 Saturday Feb 2014
        “There are at least 3,272 Abandoned Open Pit Uranium Mines and Prospects in the Northern Great Plains-Black Hills, the Territory of the Great Sioux Nation. There are 397 in Montana, 2,103 in Wyoming, 113 in North Dakota, 272 in South Dakota, and 387 in Colorado.
        “Furthermore, ‘More than 4,000 exploratory holes, some large enough for a man to fall into, are found in the southwestern Black Hills with an additional 3,000 holes just 10 miles west of the town of Belle Fourche, SD. These holes go to depths of 600 feet…Hundreds of more exploratory holes for uranium are being bored in Wyoming and South Dakota with those states’ approval.’ ( Tourist attraction Mount Rushmore is in this area. The Native Americans of the Northern Great Plains have higher than US national average cancer rates, but especially of lung cancer.

        “See nine minute video below:

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          “’America’s Secret Chernobyl‘

          "Fact Sheet

          “’Uranium Mining and Nuclear Pollution
          in the Upper Midwestern United States
          1. World War II ended with the nuclear bomb and introduced the use of nuclear energy for the production of electricity which caused the price of uranium to rise. Uranium mining in South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, and North Dakota began in the middle of the 1960s. As the economy of the Northern Great Plains states depends primarily on agriculture, when uranium was discovered in the region, many get-rich-quick schemes were adopted. Not only were large mining companies pushing off the tops of bluffs and buttes, but small individual ranchers were also digging in their pastures for the radioactive metal. Mining occurred on both public and private land, although the Great Sioux Nation still maintains a claim to the area through the Fort Laramie Treaties of 1851 and 1868, the March 3rd Act of 1871, Article VI of the US Constitution, and the 1980 Supreme Court decision on the Black Hills. The Great Sioux Nation was never consulted on any of this.’ The article continues here: More information is at

          See more here:

          “Our Postscript: The USA actually has multiple competitors for ines m

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            “Our Postscript: The USA actually has multiple competitors for 'America’s Secret Chernobyl', it seems. These old uranium mines may or may not be the worst from the vantage of radiation, we don’t know. Regardless, they are highly dangerous, polluting groundwater, rivers and streams, soil and agriculture and blowing radioactive dust in the wind. But, Chernobyl was a nuclear accident, so it involved more diverse, and synthetic radionuclides. Thus, we chose not to use this title, especially as we may need to use it at a future date, for a different topic. …”

            See also:

            • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

              Hey, PJ. I'm looking at some damage control and I'm wondering if perhaps you might be willing to help me.

              You said "What Buessler said is that there are worse radionuclides in fish than cesium. [i.e. Strontium 90 and Plutonium, Uranium]

              He said that people can weigh the risk for themselves like they do when they smoke cigarettes."

              Do you know where I could find that info? It would be much appreciated.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                It was in a question and answer session after his presentation about the ocean. The presentation was on the West Coast.

                Code and I were arguing. I said that Buessler doesn't actually say anything wrong, but his incorrectness is from omission.

                I will look for it sometime but am too busy now. I'm swamped until the end of school May 23 or a bit later for some charter academies.

                I have planting to do from some plants that came that I had ordered online and I still have to move some trellises from between 2 fences and I have to cut down one tree (I'm too disabled to use anything besides a little tree saw. It takes a long time.) And I have to take down one side of my chain link fence in two different places and I have to give my hands a rest in between to recuperate as they are handicapped and my circulation isn't the greatest from carpal tunnel syndrome, dislocated bones in one hand and severe surgery for cancer [1989] in the other). It will take hours on the computer for me to find it.

                Signing off.

                • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                  Me too. I left my extra saved seeds in the rain in paper bags and have been in a hurry to get them in before they sprout. What a stupid mistake!

                  Hours to find the quote? Bummer. Maybe try a new search engine? Youtube has all of his lectures.

                  "What Buessler said is that there are worse radionuclides in fish than cesium. [i.e. Strontium 90 and Plutonium, Uranium]
                  He said that people can weigh the risk for themselves like they do when they smoke cigarettes."
                  I can't find it, either!

                  I wonder why he isn't testing for [strontium, uranium and plutonium] if he says they're in the fish? He says US gov isn't providing him the funds and citizen volunteers are the only ones willing to collect the samples of water and then pay him +$600 each to test for cesium only. He said he had samples of water in his closet to test for strontium, but he was waiting to see if he ever got gov funding to do so. Media and gov are using his data, however, since they can't afford to provide their own. I guess he has been chosen to document the Fukushima effect on our ocean and inform the media and gov of the results, so the quote you provided might add to the current lack of data. They did provide him funding to test for Plutonium in water @ Hanford, though. The red sea, I think, (Chernobyl) also. And weapons testing…

                  Please let the anti-nuke crowd here know if you find it. They are interested in the effects Fukushima has had on the Pacific and abroad. Much thanks, happy gardening.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    Hi HHD, I don't know if you read at the link I posted in response to what Anne said earlier today, was Buessler's remark re: the risk of eating fish.

                    He stated, in the article I cited from the Woods Hole site, testing for radionuclides other than Cesium is very expensive and cost-prohibitive. I thought about posting that, but had to get to work this morning & didn't have time.

                    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                      Very sweet of you.

                      Nuclear: Too cheap to meter.

                    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                      I just remembered, he went to Japan/Pacific right after Fukushima to test the water. I forget for what…

                      I imagine WHOI payed him for that.

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  BTW, the statistical "outliers" representing the stray lethal atoms (radionuclides) causing injury, mutation, teratogenic effects, death, etc., illustrate exposures to radiation do not follow a linear pattern. Which I think further supports what Code has articulated re: toxicity vs. a linear, dose dependent response to exposures.

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                Well, here is something interesting (by way of denial):


                KB says radiological contaminants become less harmful the more diluted they are, and the farther they travel in the ocean. How's that for distortion of facts?


                "Fukushima will likely have the most significant long-term health impacts on those who had the highest exposures, so those living closest to the plant or in areas with higher fallout. This is because the further the radioactive material travels, the more dispersed (and the less harmful) it becomes."

                As Code is quick to point out, it's all about TOXICITY, not levels of contamination present. It only takes one inhaled atom of Pu 239 or ingested Cs 137 to cause a lethal cancer.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Im pretty sure Ken believes the scientific status quo. Frightening because it leads to acceptance of the 'attenuation by monitored environmental dilution' …poison us slowly concept.

                  What they dont know; how toxic fallout is and how toxic background radiation is. Thats two pretty big unknowns! Chernobyl epidemiology indicates they are under estimating by 600 times!

                  The difference in belief is that mainstream thinks the bomb test era may have caused 420,000 cancers, whereas the ECRR says 60 million deaths.

                  Becquerels of radiation does not tell the story!

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  KB's quote says one thing, your interpretation is another thing.

                  I really believe that the misinterpretation of KB is a pro-Nuke way of repeating over and over again the dilution argument.

                  KB is really just saying that more people will be harmed by the radiation from Fukushima than those people on the West Coast because less radioactive contamination will reach the West Coast.

                  The quotation you quote doesn't give the dilution argument at all.

                  He is a very careful scientist, and his words are meant literally and not a pro-Nuke interpretation.

                  He never says that any radionuclide is less toxic because it crosses the ocean. The specific activity of any one radionuclide never changes. It is the same in Japan or the US or anywhere in the world. But fewer from Fukushima will reach the US. One tenth of one millionth of a gram of plutonium inhaled will be equally lethal in Japan or the US. But Fukushima has more hot particles FROM FUKUSHIMA than the US will have FROM FUKUSHIMA.

                  But in the real world there have been many nuclear accidents and tons of contamination from both nuclear radiation and other toxins.

                  So my advice. Take any quotation from any scientists and read it literally. To argue from something the scientist never said is called a straw argument. Straw arguments are used over and over again by pro-Nuke shills in blogs all over the internet. And then those straw arguments are repeated by unwary non-scientists.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    It doesn't matter how wonderful the intentions are of non-scientific anti-Nukers are. If they repeat the nuclear industry deceptions they are helping the nuclear industry to deceive the world. And this is one reason why it is so difficult to get rid of nuclear energy.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      I’ve posted all the scam, deceptive arguments used by the nuclear industry. I’ve argued with pro-Nuke shills in free online classes I’ve taken. The same shills take all the classes and use the scams to try to win over supporters of the nuclear industry. The nuclear industry is just protecting its jobs and money. It doesn’t know or care about the health ruined by radionuclides or the natural resources ruined forever.

                      A Primer in the Art of Deception: The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science
                      By Paul Zimmerman


                      TV and movies and ads are aimed to make people be sociable (do the same as everyone else) and expect instant gratification. People need to learn the truth and to learn the consequences of actions. Otherwise, people never become adults and never think rationally.

                      One reason I've posted political commentary is because a reader can see how rational people think. If no one ever reads the commentaries, it is just emotional slogans which are totally lacking in any real content. Slogans just teach prejudice and teach people to not regard individuals but just lump them altogether in a category that they can view as enemies.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      One article I posted was about, I think the term was, integrative coherence. To avoid wars we need leaders who can assess many different inputs of data and figure out what the consequences will be. That is what members of the intelligence community do. When politicians do the analysis terrible mistakes can be made as in the assertion that Iraq had an active nuclear weapons program and all chemical and biological weapons.

                      Many politicians are not altruistic, but want to stay in power. And they make tons of money when they become lobbyists.

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    The mainstream science, and I include Ken, DOES believe that radioactive fallout gets less dangerous the more its diluted. They believe it because they are thinking of radiation dose as per the ICRP model. To think in terms of specific activity is not their way…its something code introduced (a common scientific knowledge), against the endless fighting of Dr Anne. Now she uses it. See? My efforts paid off after all!

                    "He never says that any radionuclide is less toxic because it crosses the ocean."

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      The idea of specific activity has been around for centuries. It is curious that you take credit for the concept on this website, because I don't remember you using the concept in your arguments. How do you use "specific activity" in your arguments? It is true that I've learned a lot from the arguments of those who argue for the nuclear industry. What I remember is when I quote the specific activity of natural K-40 and man made created K-40 whose specific activity is 8,000 times greater, you refuse to acknowledge the official charts.

                      It's like taking credit for using the term "radiation". It's the use of the term that matters, not the fact that the word exists.

                      I took a free online class in Nuclear Engineering and another free online class in radiation. I also took 3 different free online classes in sources of energy, and a class in thermodynamics.

                      Detecting and measuring ionizing radiation – a short history

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar


                      The specific activity for radioactive Potassium is out of alphabetic order and is listed before Plutonium in this chart.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Wilhelm Roentgen, Marie Curie, Ernest Rutherford…they were teasing apart the concepts of radioactivity around 120 years ago.

                      Let me refresh your memory Anne; I was focusing on the disparity of radiation quantity caused by fallout vs background. This is because all of science and media compares the two, concluding that manmade radiation is inconsequential. There is far more background radiation. So it was interesting to look at potassium especially since its the largest internal radiation source and the ocean is buzzing with a thousand times more of it than say cesium. You tried…and failed…to argue absolutely every idea that I put forth to explain the difference in toxicity.

                      So, yes, I take credit for expounding on specific activity on this forum…among many other concepts pertinent to the subject…

                      You continue with your part…insinuating that Im pro nuke etc. As for humility, you could display a tad more because you apparently didnt get anything out of your thermodynamics and other courses.

                      On the other hand, when you arent drowning my one post with five argumentative ones, I actually like a lot of your stuff…good ideas on diet and promoting a radiation free energy and communications industry

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Activity is, compared by Jay, aka, MarineChemist in this pr piece he recently pushed out.

                      "Activity of 40K (Bq kg-1) tended be ~100 fold higher in the fish tissue than radiocesium activities."


                      Taking it to an atom of K-40 vs an atom of C-134/137, or Sr-90, or I-131/129, I understand his argument starts to error and exponentiates from there…

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      I find it very curious that a marine chemist is fixated on only the ionizing aspect of widespread oceanic contamination with very chemicaly toxic unnatural manmade radioactive elements.

                      Never mind the creatures washing up deceased at his feet…

                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      Code, you have articulated well what Anne is calling (I think), "specific acctivity." In fact, you articulated it well enough I made reference to it in response to Anne's query about where Buessler's statement about the relative risk of eating radioactively contaminated fish could be found.

                      Haven't read backwards and upwards through this thread yet, but am assuming that's what this is about ….

                      You made a cogent argument for why the ICRP radiation dose model is flawed, and argued for the toxicity of specific radionuclides. I'm afraid I'm not articulating this well ….

                      At any rate, I'm not here to compete with you, and I appreciate how you said it ….

                      If anyone has a problem with that, well, that's their problem ….

                      Buessler does in fact state dilution makes radiation less harmful, as does distance from its original source.

                      That is an immensely flawed argument. While it is true one may have a lesser chance of inhaling, ingesting, or being exposed externally to that one lethal atom, or the lethal atoms required to cause death or illness – it does NOT take into account just one atom may be sufficient to cause harm, injury, even the death of the life form exposed to it.

                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      That is, statistically speaking, Buessler may have a point. But it's the outliers, the random exposures to the lethal, toxic, tiny iotas of radionuclides which get to us, and all the other critters harmed by them.

                      Thus Buessler's entire argument on this subject is flawed.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    Anne, Buessler's problem here is what he DOES NOT say, the omission.

                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      And taken quite literally, Buessler's statement is, on its face, patently false.

                      It's interesting to me your interpretation appears to be the exact opposite of my own.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      KB's explanation is meant to be deceptive because an internal emitter in your body is just as dangerous whether or not the outside density of particles is greater or less.

                      Chris Busby states this very well, a number of times.

                      However, I have posted many times that in the US man-made radiation is equal to the amount of background radiation and quoted the NRC. This info is from before Fukushima, so man made radiation must be now much higher.

                      Also KB doesn't state the fact that huge amounts of radiation are continually pouring into the ocean and will be for a very long time.

                      He never states what he means by dilution. That is his deception. And the radiation from Fukushima is obviously very harmful to marine life, so how could it not be harmful to humans.

                      Somewhere he states that there is already a lot of man-made radiation pollution in the ocean from all the nuclear testing. And we know that there is a lot from nuclear waste and other nuclear accidents.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Here is the image of the NRC for background radiation vs. man-made radiation.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      I thought it was interesting in the video I poasted of Chris Busby. He said he wouldn't go to Fukushima because he is afraid of the radiation. He said that many of his colleagues went to Chernobyl and are now dead.

                      And as for KB, it depends on which statement of KB someone is talking about. I couldn't see that he ever said that the material composition of radionuclides changes by dilution. And, of course, he isn't talking about all the radionuclides that traveled on the wind when he is talking about the adionuclides which dispersed in the ocean.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HoTaters, the toxicity of manmade fallout consists of the known factors and the unknown factors. One may try to grasp it, but scientifically, we just arent there yet.

                      Genomic instability…the bystander effect…double strand DNA breaks…low or high energy ionization tracks. For my understanding, its not quite right to think in terms of that one bullet hit to the DNA. High ionization gradients, molecular bonding with the polar water molecule, and much more, indicate that man made fallout truly 'poisons the well'. The bystander effect shows that not even one 'bullet hit' from a radionuclide is required to kill many cells! The interruption of biological process is on many levels.

                      Buesseler…I dont think he intentionally deceives. The indication of his thought process is to define the Fukushima impact by an equivalent dental x-ray. This is the dose trap, of which both pro and antinuclearist fall prey.

                      The dose concept only includes the idea of 'ionizing radiation'. The distinctive character of electromagnetic radiation with wavelengths shorter than 300 nm. 100 thousand such wavelengths fit into an inch. (needs verification). ….so…thats it, the "quantity of ionizing radiation" is the dose model. No thought given to frequency specific effects, molecular level biochemical effects…other than ionization tracks.

                      The well; the life giving waters, even though they were radioactive since the beginning, they have now been poisoned. Who knows how…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Anne, weve been over it a thousand times. Your background to fallout pie chart is totally off. NOT indicative of the true ratios we are dealing with. IT was part of your argument from the beginning. You knowingly or unknowingly support the industry/science standard that puts background or natural radiation on the same level as nuclear fallout. Your argument is that man must have made that background, and no doubt you will drag out something (AGR?) that says the world was radiation free. You are >>SO WRONG<< on that point, and should review with humility, in my humble opinion.

                      Why its important? Yes, you argue to the contrary, but the fact remains that the biggest barrier to battling the nuclear industry and science is the failed dose model and its conceptual basis. In a nutshell, life on earth flourished forever until the last sliver of history when we introduced a new breed of radiation. The level of fallout compared to NATURAL and PRE EXISTING radiation may have peaked at 5% and even now with fukushima is less than 1%. As a cavewoman, you would have had radiation IN YOUR CELLS equal to about five thousand times what you find in the pacific from fukushima fallout. Instead of attempting to grasp this you have instead labeled me pro hormesis, pro nuclear etc. Can I be blunt? Its a failing, and a detriment to your cause

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Why do you say that background radiation is much greater than radiation from fallout?

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Code, I totally disagree with this statement of yours:

                      "As a cavewoman, you would have had radiation IN YOUR CELLS equal to about five thousand times what you find in the pacific from fukushima fallout."

                      And aren't you here being extremely vague and not using ECRR explanations?

                      And isn't your statement mixing up dose rates as much as KB does?

                      So what are your links to the internal radiation dose of a cave person and what kind of radiation was it? And what was the life expectancy of the cave person?

                    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                      Doesn't he mean there are more natural isotopes (much more), than Fukushima isotopes, but that doesn't make Fukushima isotopes less harmful? On the contrary?

                      There are more oxygen atoms than fallout. Does that make fallout comparable to oxygen?

                      Would you like salt or cesium with your food? You get just as much flavor with a fraction of the cesium, so cesium would be a healthier choice?

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Anne, of course you disagree. But you never attempt to understand my explanations, so why bother with a link? "I dont need no stinkin links'. Understanding is better than links.

                      Anne, if you want to understand, you will have to study instead of argue. The RATIO of K-40 to its sister isotopes is WELL ESTABLISHED. Its a CONSTANT, known to many decimal places. Animals, including humans, have about 70 bq/kg. Theres a thousand Kg in a cubic meter of water. Are you following? So we have about 70,000 bq/m3 and HAVE ALWAYS HAD this, as explained above. Compare to the fallout…10 bq/m3, even if you add all the strontium and plutonium and 2000 other radionuclides. So you do the math; divide 70,000 bq/m3 by 10 or 15 bq/m3. Isnt this the crux of the scientific debate? Wait, what scientific debate? None on ENenews…none at Woods Hole

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Hillbilly, there is simply MORE RADIATION, say it again, more radiation….from background sources than from fallout. Not counting the radionuclides ore anything, simply the quantity of radiation. Moreover, many studies show that when you take away the natural radiation, biology suffers. Thats WHY there is a hormesis debate…its the studies.

                      The worldwide average effective dose rate from natural background is about 2400 microSv . For comparison, worldwide average effective dose rates from weapons fallout peaked at 113 microSv about 5% of background in 1963. We have it that 60 million people died from that. Today we rival weapons fallout again. Today fallout is still dwarfed by natural radiation. Now the ocean seems to suffer from a mortal blow. Bust the Buesseler/mainstream slogan "we live in a sea of radiation, the danger is in the dose" to joust, or perpetually lose the argument.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Again! 🙁

                      Natural/Background versus Manmade are not the same

                      None of this was caused by Natural/Background Radiation sources!

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Hi obewan! Obe gets it on first principles; lots of life before the nuclear era, everything is dying post nuclear era. No evidence of genetic instability through countless generations…until now, humans are declining at 3% or more per generation.

                      But its tricky. We cant give cosmic rays or radon a completely non hazardous classification. Yet, DESPITE EVERYTHING, life flourished…and it was radioactive, no doubt about it.

                      "Our numerical simulations indicate that for higher organisms, up to 90% of all deleterious mutations should be un-selectable

                      This clearly reflects a profound evolutionary paradox “why have we not died 100 times over?”

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      When I have a bunch of bullets laying around on the ground they are harmless and it's not until I pick some of them up and then load them into a gun and then point that gun and pull that trigger firing them at someone.. that those bullets become really dangerous.

                      Alas the entire Nuclear Industry and Fukushima are now shooting all life with trillions of manmade radioactive bullets. 🙁

                    • unincredulous unincredulous

                      All the scientists are saying that the ocean took the hit (dilution) but the oceans are fine.

                      That's like saying a bullet proof vest protects you and takes the hit. I'm sure that after taking a hit, regulations require that a new vest be worn.

                      The same vest can't protect time and time again. It gets pretty chewed up.

                      Natural background radiation particles may be compared to stone projectiles. Man-made radiation particles may be compared to R.I.P. bullets.

                      Anecdotal comparison.

                      With all the scientific instruments available today, I would like to see actual microscopic video comparing the reaction of organic life to 1) A million bananas compressed into a rod. 2) a spent nuclear MOX fuel rod. Both at a distance of 1/2 inch and rectal insertion. I'm sure that the difference will become quite obvious. Ken Buesseler will probably volunteer along with Rod Adams and Wade Allison.

                    • unincredulous unincredulous

                      Jay Cullen might but he is pretty chewed up

                    • unincredulous unincredulous

                      Need some observers: Chris Busby might like to go, but it is just too far. Lauren Moret might like to go, but there would probably be too much cussing for her.

                    • unincredulous unincredulous

                      post test observations: The fuel rod was glowing red hot. The bananas made people hungry, while remaining quite cool.

                      Scientists were mystified and bewildered

                    • unincredulous unincredulous

                      Disclosure: No nuclear scientists were harmed in the making of this video.

                      Several oceanologists were chewed up

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Do you think they will bend over willingly? 🙂

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