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  • Wow, I you think ENE is bat shit crazy, I tried a twitter discussion with a bunch of real tards who are convinced that all business profits are horrific, that everyone DESERVES a "living wage" at least $15 an hour.

    Talk about bat shite crazy, and attacking, wanted to kill me because I owned a business, made shit up, discounted any positive value of my motives. Lot of twits on twitter, lol

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      the industrial revolution had the promise of liberating the common man from drudgery. Alas, the robber barons profited and made slaves of the people.

      The end result of mechanization and artificial intelligence is that most, if not all work will be done by machine. That means no work for the masses. Thats great! finally, no jobs! We definitely need a living wage for all. All money comes from the sun and a few mineral resources below, but ignorant man cant see that simple fact

      • Code: Of course, most energy from sun, but I am increasingly more aware that proper management of bacteria, fungi, other microbes, and phyto and zoo planktons, is where real wealth and health can be created.

        Unfortunately, radiation screws with that stuff quite handily.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          the sun fuels the plants that feed the microbes and plankton, and I added the mineral resources. This is following the chain of cause and effect. The salient point is that money isnt 'made' by stock portfolios, or any other monetary instrument or concept like buyin low and selling high, or diversifying or rebundling derivatives, yet EVERYONE uses that false language. "I made money in short sales today" Its incorrect and its unjust. In my opinion linking the value of the dollar to rice beans and apples is much wiser than gold and silver. There would never be inflation, at least concerning food. Land ownership and all that other stuff is more complicated. But therein lies the problem; People are duped by their own cherished ideas, taught to them by some other guy that didnt get it either. Money should be as clean as physics

    • Minimum Wage List Of Countries And Highest 9 Minimum Wage Nations; Pope Francis Calls Capitalism Terrorism; Robert Reich – 12 Simple Things That Can Be Done NOW To Save The Economy, First Step Is To Raise The Minimum Wage To $15 Per Hour
      http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2015/07/robert-reich-12-simple-things-that-can.html

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        The response to a rise in the minimum wage is a rise in prices. It's rather self-defeating to think we can solve economic issues (especially structural ones) by raising the minimum wage.

        Raising the minimum wage puts inflationary pressure on the economy.

        http://economicswebinstitute.org/glossary/wages.htm

        "Impact on other variables

        Higher wages mean higher income in most families; thus their consumption will usually grow as well.

        Total consumption will depend on consumption attitudes of the other families, in particular of whose income heavily relies on dividends. Immigrants may save part of their income to send remittances home.

        If total consumption grow, this will boost sales throughout the industries, increasing productivity. This, in turn, is conducive to a further growth in wages.

        Through the Keynesian multiplier, income increase will be followed again by consumption, giving rise to a positive feedback loop.

        If sales do not increase enough and the share of labour costs on total costs is large, which is not always the case, the increase in wages will be reflected in an increase of labour cost per unit of output…." (leading to price increases, generally speaking)

        "Increases in nominal wages will boost payroll tax revenue, thus, other things equal, they will reduce public deficit.

        On a more micro level, it is important to remember that wage level and dynamics are a key feature for individual motivation to work. "

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          That was a general statement. In reality, there are a lot of factors involved. But a rise in wages generally drives an increase in prices due to increased demand (exclusive of factors which might influence consumer spending), which exerts inflationary pressure on the economy.

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            I have a dental surgeon making $4865.00 per hour.

            Please explain the concepts of a minimum wage again?

            In the capitalistic system.. the point is to screw whomever/whatever the system comes into contact. It has always been that way.

            Capitalism has failed as an economic system ..and the U.S. is the proof.

            Here is the proof..
            US Debt Clock :: National Debt of United States
            http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/unitedstates

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              obe speaks the truth there. The others are caught up in their little mental concepts.

              In the not so old days, the Indians would trade one ear of corn for one handful of mesquite beans. The idea of inflation would have been a bizarre comedy. One tribe had this to say to the invading white man; If we eat, you eat, if we starve you starve. Such indians were WAY too nice and should have shot as many white invaders harboring their economic ideas as possible

            • razzz razzz

              Maybe if the surgeon is doing jaw reset alignments or extreme bone grafting and rebuilding then he probably worth every penny.

              I don't think you need his services to extract an impacted molar or to install an implant.

              Minimum wage was meant to help the underage high schooller crowd. Now it is morphing into a maximum wage if you are a world citizen. Worry about who really pays for it later.

              Everything will soon be automated and home delivery. Robots will be preforming procedures. Just like in futuristic movies.

              Service industries survive for necessary hands on work.

              Most businesses still compete except at the no-bid government level or the 'to big to fail' as designated by Congress via lobbyists. Free markets are always alive and well, somewhere. Shop around and play beat the price.

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                9 teeth in upper jaw in a row..nothing special.. $305 per tooth..double charge for anesthetic as usual practice in field.

                Hourly based on time surgeon worked in the mouth.. in front of me.. in a chair.

                The kid at burger king works a allot harder and gets paid.. dirt.

                The human jaw has not changed in what 10,000 years and all have the same amount of teeth inside the mouth last I checked x 7 billion humans.

                There are over 600,000 restaurants in the U.S. last I checked and most all of them are different in design and function.

                Different in "design and function" makes this job much, much harder..period.

                Whom is scamming whom is the question in this capitalistic system.. 🙂

                Line up!

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  Your entire healthcare system is a scam..ongoing, evasive and purposeful.

                  It is capitalistic in nature..therefor a scam.

                  http://time.com/2888403/u-s-health-care-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world/
                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/06/16/once-again-u-s-has-most-expensive-least-effective-health-care-system-in-survey/
                  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3821750/Why-American-healthcare-expensive-efficient-world.html

                  After researching bacteria biofilm I am under the understanding that approximately 50% of all human ailments of the human body may be coming directly from the human mouth bacteria.

                  If this is the case why then is not dental and vision included in the U.S. general healthcare costs?

                  So a guy is sick goes to general who has no idea why this the guy is sick and never once did the general look at this guy's teeth..he is not a dentist ..and visa versa.

                  Disconnect completely for the making of mo money..period..capitalistic.

                • razzz razzz

                  obewanspeaks: You are not clear on what is being done. Per tooth? Dentists currently still like to see individual implants for each tooth, to keep bone stimulated and healthy when chewing but now can put in a full upper (bridge) using only four implants or a full lower on four implants. Referred to as four on four.

                  They say bacteria from gum and bone disease in a mouth can spread and affect your heart as those types of bacteria are extremely aggressive.

                  I don't know why teeth and eyes are treated like second class citizens when it comes to insurance. Many laser treatments available.

                  In contracting, could easily join the club and exploit labor to get ahead but I choose not to. Working for a low hourly wage seems more honest. Working alone in service or being a type of consultant, as soon as you hit a certain income threshold, government beats the snot out of you in taxes. Then you need to a LLC to protect yourself which is another set of rules and more money to work under.

                  To have inflation, money has to be printed to surpass the national debt. The national debt is rising so fast that we are still in deflation. Besides, if people hoard, then money will not go into circulation creating more deflation.

                  They just lowered requirements again for mortgages to help prop up the economy. I still get credit card offers for 0% for a year on balance transfers and purchases. This all will end badly. When car buying ends, lookout.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    The money supply is increased in response to increased demand and spending. This is inflationary in nature.

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    Razzz..please don't be confused and please do not defend what can not be defended.

                    The hourly rate was $4865.00 for the services provided based on the time of work observed compared to the bill paid…this rate would include all equipment, tools and insurance required to complete the task.. just like any other service business.

                    Dental work is a service business. They are servicing you and your teeth.

                    When I hire someone and I pay him to make widgets.. he will sit in a chair and make widgets for 1 hour..that hour is paid at an hourly rate.

                    The U.S. pays 100% more than the average country for all medical services..bending over is expected and required if you desire these medical services.

                    I did not make the bill up or the time of work observed..it is what it is.

                    Education..that is good one..Ho Tater.

                    Do not make an easy job a tough job..mistake number one.

                    There are finite amount of teeth in the mouth and that total has not changed in 10,000 years.

                    One could not find an easier gig.

                    Even a tree cutter/surgeon has thousands of species that are different..this job is much tougher.. all the way around.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Teeth..the gig! All mouths are the same..

                      A normal adult mouth has 32 teeth, which (except for wisdom teeth) have erupted by about age 13: Incisors (8 total): The middlemost four teeth on the upper and lower jaws. Canines (4 total): The pointed teeth just outside the incisors. Premolars (8 total): Teeth between the canines and molars.Oct 22, 2015
                      The Teeth (Human Anatomy): Diagram, Names, Number, and Conditions

                      Trees..the gig! All the trees are different..this is an education..

                      With an estimated 60,000-100,000 species, the number of trees worldwide might total twenty-five per cent of all living plant species. The greatest number of these grow in tropical regions and many of these areas have not yet been fully surveyed by botanists, making tree diversity and ranges poorly known.
                      Tree – Wikipedia

                      We have all been hoodwinked/robbed.. in broad daylight! 🙂

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  It doesn't take a lot of education or talent to flip a hamburger.

                  That being said, most dental procedures seem like a rip-off.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    The same people who are giving us fluoride treatments are also saying x-rays of the skull are totally safe. Now who would that be????

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    You ever flip a hamburger for an hour? 8 hours?

                    Have you ever serviced a $5,000 dollar lunch hour?

                    Have you ever run a restaurant 7 days a week?

                    Your talking about education correct?

                    You think the Wizard is controlling those 30 humans and all that equipment and stock flying around behind the line?

                    Yea the wizard compared to a guy sitting in the chair with a pair of pliers and some drugs..chuckles! 🙂

                    Embrace your capitalism! Embrace it! Hold on tight!

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      True story heard yesterday at a late graduation party.

                      Women in her 40's told her MD she was quitting smoking. MD told her great and we need to do an MRI to check your lungs and chest.

                      Really? Mo Money! Why? Watch the flow here..

                      So she has this MRI..not needed obviously..but OK. During the test they find out her lungs are clear but she has a slightly enlarged lymph node and they recommend she has it biopsied.

                      She starts crying thinking she has a problem calling everyone she knows scared out of her mind. She has this invasive test biopsy with a probe down her mouth into her chest cavity and she is in and out in two hours. The procedure requires full operating room and staff…the works.

                      Biopsy comes back negative..of course it did. lymph nodes are suppose to swell and this is their job at times as part of the lymphatic system.

                      So I go in to have my ball joints checked on my car and all of a sudden the mechanic says.. oh you have shock with a small leak back here and I think you should replace it. Really? How much of that will be $600.00. I did not ask him to check my shocks..

                      These are all businesses being run in a capitalistic way to bring in as much money as possible anyway they can..just like adding cheese to hamburger for and additional .50¢..it is called sell up..for the making of mo money.

                      The doctors and hospitals are business mechanics..no more and no less. So they scared her for mo money!

                      The insurance paid $30,000 for this sell up…

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Embrace it..here it is again..mo money..get it anyway one can!

                      Mar-a-Lago membership fee doubles to $200,000
                      http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/25/mar-a-lago-membership-fee-doubles-to-200000.html

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                hope you dont mind me saying it for the third time…but 'free market' 'play beat the price' is exactly what drove you out of being competitative and thus productive. Since then it was a life of gambling against 'fools who deserve to lose'. How can that possibly be a cherished system.

                Brotherly, not cut-throat. Sharing and caring, not 'darwinist'. You see the world turning to near complete automation. Only those who can afford the machines, and those who lend them money…will be able to make any money at all. How can one turn off their brains at that point and return to the early indoctrination of a nearly bygone era? Many things should be free or very nearly free. Nature worked that way for millions and billions of years. Only man says free market capitalism is an absolute requirement. Try it; lend a few tons of krill to a blue whale and have him pay you back with compound interest. With his larger brain he should understand very well what you are doing. Try with all animals, including your children and ailing parents. Such a system makes dodgy thieves and connivers out of men.

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  "hope you dont mind me saying it for the third time…but 'free market' 'play beat the price' is exactly what drove you out of being competitative and thus productive. Since then it was a life of gambling against 'fools who deserve to lose'. How can that possibly be a cherished system."

                  Who is "you" ?

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    Ho T, no, I was following up on razzz's comment.

                    All the economic models prove to be false constructs if they dont make sense and hold true mathematically, physically, and naturally. To illustrate; growth based economics is purely stupid. The rat pen can only hold so many. Its a kind of pyramid scheme.

                    You point this out yourself, yet stick with all the other concepts. Do they apply to other species? Did they apply to indigenous cultures?

                    What other species would benefit by following those financial concepts that seem to make so much sense and be so irrevocably necessary for man?

                    When I look at some indigenous cultures, they had beautiful clothes, interesting and often great architecture. Animals and plants often live aesthetically pristine lives. I compare to modern man on the global picture and I see one huge toxic ghetto. And we are the top species with the most fantastic methods and conveniences?

                    Something is CLEARLY WRONG with the picture, but everyone has normalcy bias.

                    Compare high and mighty man to lowly insect the bee. Where is the bee slum, the bee usury debt, the alcoholic, downtrodden, filthy poverty ridden violence plagued beehive? WHere is the bee inflation? Should we not be far superior to the insect? After all, we assume we are. I say man is very very confused about economics and civilization. They pour milk down the drain in times of 'excess' production because of mans economic principles

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                hope you dont mind me saying it for the third time…but 'free market' 'play beat the price' is exactly what drove you out of being competitive and thus productive. Since then it was a life of gambling against 'fools who deserve to lose'. How can that possibly be a cherished system.

                Brotherly, not cut-throat. Sharing and caring, not 'darwinist'. You see the world turning to near complete automation. Only those who can afford the machines, and those who lend them money…will be able to make any money at all. How can one turn off their brains at that point and return to the early indoctrination of a nearly bygone era? Many things should be free or very nearly free. Nature worked that way for millions and billions of years. Only man says free market capitalism is an absolute requirement. Try it; lend a few tons of krill to a blue whale and have him pay you back with compound interest. With his larger brain he should understand very well what you are doing. Try with all animals, including your children and ailing parents. Such a system makes dodgy thieves and connivers out of men.

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                We run a small business and work six or seven days a work. It costs so much to hire someone, there is so much government regulation and taxation, we simply cannot afford to hire anyone, even part-time.

                So as much as we'd love to benefit someone else by giving them a job, we simply can't.

                So no vacations, lots of overtime, and all this, just to survive.

                We'll probably never retire.

                Does this fit the definition of greed?

                Fits our definition of survival.

                And we are decidedly not part of the "1%" everyone rants about.

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  six or seven days a week

                  work on the brain

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  It looks like the commenters here are becoming more and more insular, and less and less tolerant of anyone's differing point of view.

                  How can there be learning when there can be no open discussion?

                  One objective comment made about how economics works, and I feel like I have to endure a shit-storm of criticism.

                  That WAS criticism, wasn't it? Or just pot-shots taken at things in outer space?

                  Yeah, I miss the intellectual discussions too, where at least people could bounce ideas off one another and agree to disagree if they must.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    I don't like the present system any more than most of the rest of you do. Please don't lambaste me with a shit-storm of criticism for making an objective comment.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              It wasn't an argument in favor of capitalism. It was a comment on economics.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            I can see y'all had a real field day with that one, LOL.

      • q Farthington MacMananus

        Yeah I don't think monetary inflation is a good idea. But the economists would like that, no doubt.

        The first thing that you really COULD do (well, you can't, but you should) is address derivatives and leveraging. People are silly to think that the largest "share" of money would not be an inflationary factor.

  • SadieDog

    Paging Dr. Tomlinson Maziar…
    Landscapes of the Heart: Patristic and Scholastic Imagery and Hermeneutics in La Divina Commedia and Piers Plowman B

    Anna Lee Tomlinson Maziar-author, 1996

    • SadieDog

      "With hym ther was a PLOWMAN, was his brother,
      That hadde ylad of dong ful many a fother;
      A trewe swynkere and a good was he,
      Lyvynge in pees and parfit charitee."

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        translation; he shoveled shit, loved god and paid his taxes.

        and why wouldnt he? After all it was the king who was ordained by god himself to be overlord, and the proof of it is that you would be burned at the stake if you didnt believe correctly

        • SadieDog

          Ok, Code. Translate this quote from the fire.

          "Out of the west · a wench, as me thought,
          Came walking in the way · to Hell-ward she looked.
          Mercy was called that maid · a meek thing withal,
          A full benign lady · and gentle of speech.
          Her sister, as it seemed · came softly walking,
          Even out of the east · and westward she looked.
          A full comely creature · Truth she was called,
          For the virtue that her followed · afraid was she never.
          When these maidens met · Mercy and Truth,
          Each asked the other · of this great wonder,
          Of the din and of the darkness · and how the day began to dawn,
          And what a light and a brightness · lay before Hell.
          `I wonder at these happenings · in faith,' said Truth,"

    • SadieDog

      … and Dante? You sly devil, you.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        Both Dante and the author of Piers Plowman are Christians.

        The literary texts were assigned to me by a non-Christian dissertation advisor. But I was able to change advisors and was able to treat the texts from the point of view of the authors' intention.

        There is a dichotomy between life as a Christian and life as a non-Christian. Quoting a passage from a literary text, but not from the literary critic's analysis gives no clue as to the literary critic's intention or point of view.

        • q Farthington MacMananus

          "But I was able to change advisors and was able to treat the texts from the point of view of the authors' intention. "

          Is it okay if I also assume to be able to treat this text from the point of view of the author's intention? I mean, I can't say I know Dante very well, but I've got a good idea of robots.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            I skipped all the sin parts and the allusions to Classical, non-Christian literature. Plenty of people can write about that. I was interested in imagery in the Bible and earlier Christian writings and commentaries and its relation to mysticism. I had also read lots of Muslim mystical writings and the connections between Muslim and Christian mysticism.

            The world today is very far away from medieval intellectual learning. Such is the end of the world and the end of civilization. Nuclear technology has to be rejected if we are to save the earth.

            • q Farthington MacMananus

              Minor correction.

              Muslim and Christian and Judaic mysticism. Abrahamic.

              That'd also be related to freemasonry. Which I could argue, apart from some of the allegory, was mostly used as a political method for domination and subjugation.

              You're not decent, good or worthy just because you claim to be christian or whatever, btw. You should know that.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                Actually there are huge and cataclysmic differences. The Islamic God is a moon God, and not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

                Islamic mysticism and much of the modern world rests on Plato. But you would need to read St Thomas Aquinas or a discussion in my dissertation to understand the differences. St Thomas Aquinas very deftly rejects Platonic mysticism and a Platonic understanding of time.

                The secular world today loves Plato, and of course, we know of Plato and Aristotle because their texts were preserved by Muslims.

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  I haven't studied Jewish mysticism.

                • q Farthington MacMananus

                  Wait really, you suggested I should choose between Plato or Mrs Maziar…

                  AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH.

                  • Dazy Dazy

                    That was pretty funny. She thinks she knows better than both Plato and Aristotle.

                    • Dazy Dazy

                      Guessing she hasn't read any Herodotus either. At no time in this historian's writings does he make mention of any person named Jesus. You'd think the "Father of History" who traveled all over and wrote stories on everyone may have heard mention of him.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      I'm not a huge fan of Aristotle, but how can you fault that gentle giant? No wonder socrates was cynical.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      I haven't read Heredotus either, at least, not explicitly, does he mention Apollonius of Tyana though?

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      http://wisdomworld.org/setting/apollonius.html

                      "THE great Theosophist of the first century B.C. was Jesus the Christ. The great Theosophist of the first century A.D. was Apollonius of Tyana. The lives of these two men are marked by striking similarities and by equally striking differences. The similarities are found in their aim, purpose and teaching, and are explained by the fact that both were members of that great Fraternity of Perfected Men who stand behind the Theosophical Movement. "

                      For some reason, I seem to notice that patriarchal, fraternal, masonic crap there too. Probably just my warped perspective.

                    • Dazy Dazy

                      I can't recall off-hand if he mentioned Apollonius but you have me curious now. I'll have to go through my books and find the info. (I recently stored my books that aren't in my read pile in plastic bins, but, spine side out, so yay! I have a LOT of plastic bins. Trade off between using that much plastic and protecting my books, books won.)

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      I tend to avoid books, a que from Pythagoras and Socrates, perhaps.

                      I did go to school and it's like, well shit, most of these books are riddled by snakes. Especially the ones talking about history.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      You gotta know it's bad when a book talks at you, books aren't supposed to talk at you.

                      Next thing you know it'll grow wings and a forked tongue.

                    • Dazy Dazy

                      Yeah, some books are like that, the Kabbalah is a scary one, even more scary than the Catholic Bible. Just have to stay away from the creepy books.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      This is why I listen to death metal and black metal. Something honest, truthful and not quite as disturbing as the horrifying distractions.

                      Like that time you doze off in front of your TV while you're being programmed by CNN or FOX "news". You wake the fuck up and it's like "Fuck, who let me watch this shit?"

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    No. It's between Jesus and Plato. I just summarize Aquinas to help explain the problem of modern times. Pick Plato and you are picking the disconnect that allows people to rape the earth, and in the end you are picking something quite similar to Islamic revenge and warmongering.

                    You should discuss the differences between Apollonius and Jesus and leave me out of it. Attacking me is just a distraction from the real issues and the real failures of the human race.

                    • Dazy Dazy

                      You're ridiculous, Anne. And ending every ridiculous post you have with a sentence decrying nuclear is disingenuous at best.

                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Ridiculous indeed.
                      And a classic textbook example of what 'the real failures of the human race'
                      actually are.

                    • I would say PT is a prime example of a failure of the human race. How many negative qualities can we find in one individual?

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Seriously, now I'm supposed to defend PT against stock? jesus this is tiring. stock, you're a piece of shit.

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                Bloop! Went right over me, Farthington.

                Selective listening and comprehension.

                Bloop! Kind of like the sound a pinball game makes when you hit the bumpers.

                Bloop! Hit the bumper in my brain, next ….

            • q Farthington MacMananus

              Have you read One Thousand and One Nights? Is that also good scripture?

            • SadieDog

              You "skipped all the sin parts" in Dante? Yet you wrote a thesis on him. C'mon…

        • q Farthington MacMananus

          Here I am with my younger brother, working on a precursor model.

          http://www.raffaelloindri.com/wp-content/uploads/bfi_thumb/FR-FOTO-WEB-2-2yhsorqgcc3qnsjg5l3gn4.jpg

          Savvy?

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2008/jan/28/whyishempoffthebiofuelme

    "Why has hemp been ignored as a biofuel? Photograph: Corbis

    The Royal Society, the European Commission and the UK government have all managed, in the last few days, to take the wind out of the sails of the biofuel industry, publishing reports that suggest biofuels could be causing more harm than good, the crops not being as environmentally friendly as first thought, with the Commons environmental audit committee calling for a moratorium on biofuel targets until more research can be done.

    What struck me as astonishing about these reports is that they all managed to ignore the one crop which has been successfully used for many years to create bioethanol and biodiesel, is environmentally friendlier to produce than sugar beet, palm oil, corn or any of the crops mentioned in the report and can grow in practically any temperate to hot climate leaving the ground in better condition than when it was planted.

    That plant is hemp."

    Yeah okay I don't hemp as a biofuel is ideal either.

    To be fair, hemp seed is probably more suited for using as nutrition, whereas that glyphosate bt corn or whatever is probably not.

    Now I know people are used to their starchy crap, but too bad.

    • q Farthington MacMananus

      Shit, I made a typing error (which of course I never do), I missed a whole word there. Wouldn't be the first time but hey, people aren't very observant and/or entirely full of shit.

      It's so strange that I find it easier to convince people that lies are truth, they'll fucking believe anything. That's some real twilight zone stuff.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Is it supposed to be weird that a nurse at the mental ward asked me if I'm a prophet or sangoma (witch doctor)? I thought that was weird.

    I slipped some rum into some fudge I made for them, my bad?

  • freebywill

    Monsanto Is Scrambling To Bury This Breaking Story – Don’t Let This Go Unshared! http://countercurrentnews.com/2017/03/monsanto-is-scrambling-to-bury-this-breaking-story-dont-let-this-go-unshared/

    A FDA-registered food safety laboratory tested iconic American food for residues of the weed killer glyphosate (aka Monsanto’s Roundup) and found ALARMING amounts.

    Just to give you an idea of how outrageous these amounts are, independent research shows that probable harm to human health begins at really low levels of exposure – at only 0.1 ppb of glyphosate. Many foods were found to have over 1,000 times this amount! Well above what regulators throughout the world consider “safe”.

    In 2013, the EPA massively increased the industry standard of what is considered a “safe” level of glyphosate on our food, in order to make enormous amounts seem A-OK. Instead of properly regulating, they effectively raised the “safe” level so that no one can blame the industry for poisoning us with unlawful amounts of chemicals. This is corruption at its finest. The EPA has a long and sordid history of doing whatever Monsanto wants and you have to ask yourself why this continues to happen and how we can make it stop.

    [ full report here ]
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.fooddemocracynow.org/images/FDN_Glyphosate_FoodTesting_Report_p2016.pdf

    • q Farthington MacMananus

      You remind me of curly, that's really good (imo).

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      thanks freebywill. If there was a way to bump stories to the top I would do it. What a corrupt world…cant last forever

    • Let's face it, eating ANYTHING that kills is a bad idea.

      No double speak from big industry will ever cover up that simple fact…

      The cure? Don't purchase these products. That's the only sure fire way to stop these chemical producers…

      If we all boycott the products listed above (even for a couple of months) and make a very public showing that we won't buy these products until they are certified clean, the industry will clean up or disappear entirely.

      That's the power to choose!

      We can't rely on the press to do this job anymore, they are now owned by the businesses that perpetrate these deadly practices to begin with.

      Bottom line? Just say NO ad the checkout line, they will get the message.

      On a completely different note..

      What about glyphosate and cancer? Truth? Glyphosate doesn't have the ability to actually cause cancer, it can set you up for it by damaging your cells and immune system but this chemical simply doesn't have the energy to break DNA and cause cancer…

      Radiation is the real culprit! It has been deposited on all our farm lands for years and the last big deposition from Fukushima was horrendous. Documented and the real cause of the increase of the disease (many others too).

      Recon glyphosate is just another scape goat for the increase of cancer from nuclear?

      Keep em looking at the left hand and make a quarter mysteriously appear in the right hand?

      Any thoughts?

      Wowsers…

      • q Farthington MacMananus

        "Recon glyphosate is just another scape goat for the increase of cancer from nuclear?"

        Wait just a fucking minute there. You know glyposate is just one one component of roundup, right? Hey maybe, just fucking maybe, you should mention what bayer's been involved with. Maybe, you should mention the compounding, confounding (apparently) affects of that shit.

        Maybe, nuclear shit alone (and you fucking know shit isn't isolated) is the attempted scapegoat of some of the posters here.

        Yeah, today Im siding with PT.

  • freebywill

    Interior Dept. Changes Website, Prioritizes Fossil Fuels Over Renewables https://www.ecowatch.com/zinke-doi-website-energy-2437947775.html

    The Interior Department's new "American Energy" webpage reflects the Trump administration's calls for unfettered fossil fuel development.

    The webpage has gone through several revamps since Ryan Zinke took over the department in March. As reported by Motherboard, the current page, last updated on May 19, stresses "removing burdensome regulations at the Department" and omits language that emphasized developing renewable energy technologies.

    Additionally, the first sentence of the new page states: "The U.S. Department of the Interior is the steward and manager of America's natural resources including oil, gas, clean coal, hydropower, and renewable energy sources."

    That's a complete flip from the page's February 11 iteration, then called "New Energy Frontier," which listed clean technologies first: "solar, wind and waves, hydropower, geothermal, biofuels, oil and gas, and coal."

    [ while the rest of the world advances into clean energy, the US Fossil gov't clings to fossil fuels, we are going back to the stone age ]

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Svastika, svastika, anyvon? You can put it on your little hat. It reflects the views of your government.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    According to Dr Mercola and others, blue light at night has negative effects and computer screens have a lot. Try one of these small computer programs – adds some red to screens. I think the smallest program may be still free, or a small donation. https://iristech.co/reviews/

  • Jebus Jebus

    "In today's digital world consumers never know whether their behavior may have triggered an action from any of those interconnected, opaque systems, how this may lead to them getting taken advantage of, and, ultimately, how this causal chain may affect their emotions and behavior," the report says.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/09/cracked_labs_surveillance_capitalism/

  • New Study Exposes True Extent, Influence Of Climate Denial Echo Chamber For First Time, Indigenous Press Conference Demanding True Climate Solutions at COP21, New York AG Subpoenas ExxonMobil
    http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2015/12/new-study-exposes-true-extent-influence.html

  • DOJ: Trump can accept payments from foreign governments
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/337210-doj-lawyers-argue-trump-can-accept-payments-from-foreign-governments?rnd=1497052482

    Well of course he can, he is KING after all. Who cares about a silly thing like the Constitution?

    • You do realize Dr. G that this is nothing new right? Been going on since the US was founded and even before the constitution was written…

      No new news there, just a way to bash a US President.

      Just research the monies taken by every president in history…

      Duh…

  • Trump seems to think defending America consists of illegal invasion of Syria, then killing Syrian troops and shooting down their stuff in their own country.

    In 3rd recent incident with between US forces and pro-Assad regime militia in Syria, US strikes suspected armed militia drone and vehicles. http://trib.al/lutZpcH

    Hmmm, wonder if Russia or China could use that logic by coming over to the US, and start bombing US troops here because they pose a threat to Russia and China?

  • DUDe DUDe

    Koch candidates, 2016

    Follow the money in the Koch wiki.

    A close examination of campaign finance disclosures and other data reveals that Koch-tied entities are already spending on behalf of candidates in races for the U.S. House of Representatives, U.S. Senate, state Governorships, state Attorney General races and other state races in 2016.

    To compile this list, the Center for Media and Democracy/PRWatch (CMD) examined disclosed donations from a variety of sources including Koch Industries' KochPAC. This is limited to the donations that are required to be disclosed under federal and state law but, as the Nation and others have documented, Koch Industries also attempts to indoctrinate its employees on who and what to vote for or against, as documented here.

    CMD also examined the activities of the Aegis Strategic PAC. Aegis Strategic is a Koch-funded political consulting firm that seeks to "help electable advocates of the freedom and opportunity agenda who will be forceful at both the policy and political levels." The company is owned and run by Jeff Crank, a Koch operative who previously served as state director for the Colorado arm of David Koch's "Americans for Prosperity" operation.

    Additionally, CMD reviewed news reports and press releases on the activities of a variety of Koch electioneering vehicles, including Americans for Prosperity, Freedom Partners Action Fund, Concerned Women for America, and the Concerned Veterans for America. Notably, much of…

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Hate speech will be the downfall of Trump's governance.

    “…Twitter banned Yiannopoulos last year after he encouraged followers to tweet hate speech at the actress…”
    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/larry-wilmore-milo-yiannopoulos-real-time

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      You can’t win an argument with a troll

      “There are trolls online. Not the fairytale kind that sits under bridges: we’re talking about the mean, nasty individuals who use online anonymity to be cruel, spread their own brand of hate, destroy reputations and products, and generally try to upset and crush as many people and companies as they possibly can.

      “Trolls agitate to start fights between friends or strangers; they torment those struggling with illnesses or with the loss of a loved one, people unsure of their identity or their looks, or any other weakness a troll can find. They disrupt forums with off-topic comments, brag nonstop about themselves, ridicule the thoughts of others or insert controversial comments to disrupt conversations.

      “Trolls spread lies, deceive and cause damage, and they enjoy every minute they can make someone else miserable. They may be obnoxious teens, but more often than not they’re seemingly “normal” adults who use internet anonymity to shed their veneer of decency and show their ugly selves. Trolls are basically cyberbullies on steroids – cowards afraid to show their face but nastier and more dedicated than garden-variety bullies. They are often fairly tech savvy, willing to dig up a comment or information from your past to distort, thereby “justifying” their actions.,,,”
      https://www.webroot.com/us/en/home/resources/tips/pc-security/you-cant-win-an-argument-with-a-troll

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        Yiannopoulos’ voice has been diminished.

      • Dazy Dazy

        You just described yourself perfectly. Are you bragging again?

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          All the attacks are from multiple persons against me. People who are for Trump doesn't describe me at all. I am not engaging in hate speech. I am against racism and sexism. I am for the environment. I am against giving all the money to the banks and against transferring wealth to the already uber rich.

          You can stop discussion on this website, but ultimately you and Trump won't win.

          • q Farthington MacMananus

            But Mrs Maziar, you keep on failing to acknowledge the many failings and errors of some of the stuff you say or support. Particularly about religion and government delegation. Personally, I think Trump is not worth considering in any sort of useful capacity, but hey. I haven't really gotten the idea that Dazy is a Trump supporter either, unlike say, stock, but I am poor judge of character.

            Now tell me again (that would be, for the first time), do you think Cherokees, Choctaws considered Christianity before the land was taken and replaced with the particularly coincidental, no doubt, freemasonic lodges and such?

            • Dazy Dazy

              I cannot abide politicians as a whole. Disgusting group of individuals. Maybe the odd one or two aren't horrible. Maybe, a very small maybe.

              She did just concretize my point about her being a troll, though.

              • q Farthington MacMananus

                Well most of that describes me too and I won't argue that. I didn't actually know the definition of troll, but at least I recently redefined the definition the meaning of the word.

          • razzz razzz

            You whine and offer no solutions. It's Trump this and Trump that. It there an alternative person you look to as your earthly savior or are you bound to continue this charade until falling into your grave?

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            You brought all the perceived attacks on yourself as normal responses to your nastiness and lies. You seem to revel in what you describe as "torture" and "cruelty" which you describe as inflicted on you by others.

            And after hundreds or maybe thousands of your unsolicited attacks, you expect sympathy? Really?

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            "You can stop discussion on this website, but ultimately you and Trump won't win."

            Fantasy world

  • DUDe DUDe

    Tomorrow Will be Too Late: the Earth Summit Speech

    by Fidel Castro

    This is the text of Fidel Castro’s speech from the Earth Summit, Rio, 1992.

    "..An important biological species — humankind — is at risk of disappearing due to the rapid and progressive elimination of its natural habitat. We are becoming aware of this problem when it is almost too late to prevent it. It must be said that consumer societies are chiefly responsible for this appalling environmental destruction.

    They were spawned by the former colonial metropolis. They are the offspring of imperial policies which, in turn, brought forth the backwardness and poverty that have become the scourge for the great majority of humankind.."

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/09/tomorrow-will-be-too-late/

    • PlowboyGrownUp

      " A 'Mini Ice Age' Is Coming in The Next 15 Years
      Solar activity is predicted to drop by 60 percent in 2030."
      http://www.sciencealert.com/a-mini-ice-age-is-coming-in-the-next-15-years

      • DUDe DUDe

        Geoengineering: A New Warning Of Deadly Ozone Layer Collapse From A Former NASA Engineer

        "..Global climate engineering programs continue to destroy the planet's life support systems, including the ozone layer. The former NASA aerospace avionics engineer who has been working directly with Geoengineering Watch has issued an even more dire report on the unfolding ozone layer collapse. This change is not due to increased solar activity, rather, it is a dire symptom of Earth's rapidly disintegrating ozone layer.

        It is important because our DNA/RNA has a harmonic resonance to 270 nanometers, and radiation from the sun at this frequency will TEAR APART the physical strands. All life-form DNA/RNA exhibit this same reaction, with humans, the sensitivity to this frequency is 9,000 times greater than any other frequency in the solar spectrum. So, we already have more than a ten-fold UVC level over the maximum dosage rate!

        The data gathered was analyzed and found to be accurate, and of major concern – UVC levels of 1.7uW/cm^2 were measured. Do the math, the maximum dosage level per hour is 0.8uW/cm^2/hour (0.1uW/cm^2 times 8 hours), so, 1.7uW/cm^2 * 8 = 13.6uW/cm^2/hour, or, 17 TIMES the maximum dosage level.

        http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/a-new-warning-of-deadly-ozone-layer-collapse-from-a-former-nasa-engineer/

        • But we often overlook the obvious dangers of such programs for abuse…

          Rig airplanes to spray chemicals into our environment? What's the problem?

          It's the sky as a dumping ground for wastes that will turn a profit instead of costing millions to properly dispose of these toxins…

          Don't believe it's possible? Sure it is and has already happened….

          Just take a look at another dumping ground for toxic wastes and this has been going on for decades…

          The fluoride in our water supply came primarily from alcoa and other aluminum manufacturers…

          Would have cost millions to properly dispose of this highly toxic and reactive substance but they instead turned the poison into a cash cow under the guise of it being somehow good for us once diluted in our drinking water.

          Alzheimers anyone?

          Now most fluorides comes from fracking and the nat gas industries. Is it the same? Nope a different form entirely but it's fluoride so what's the difference to the folks saving millions and even profiting from it's disposal into our water supplies…

          So we can see how easy it is to take a verified toxin and turn it into a "this is good toxin" story and then dump it with some fairy tale benefit.

          Ya have to know that this will be the case with high altitude spraying as well.

          Someone will propose a tenuous connection to a benefit and dump their toxins in our air without our knowledge…

          Won't help anything but a bottom line profit…

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Plowboy, suspect that is right, and we may be entering a solar minimum period the likes of which hasn't been seen for a long time.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Oh look what I found, the real south.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7dMxpqCIhU

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Nobody expects the sunset flip. That's seriously plausible btw.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    What do you tell someone with nothing left to live for, fucking nothing.

    Do you appeal that they're sick, that they need help, maybe need some drugs? What a nice reflection of societal sickness.

    Understand, no?

    • q Farthington MacMananus

      Maybe outlaw their sentiments and feelings? Because that's what people did. Society doesn't try to save, what a fucking piece of shit lie that is.

      No, what society is worried about is the prime perspective shutting down.

  • HoTaters had this to say, and more, RE Minimum wage to $15

    The response to a rise in the minimum wage is a rise in prices. It's rather self-defeating to think we can solve economic issues (especially structural ones) by raising the minimum wage.

    Raising the minimum wage puts inflationary pressure on the economy.
    ————————————————–
    It also misallocates resources / improperly rewards societal contribution not in proportion to value.

    Agreed, I made $9 per hour as a lifeguard in the early 1980's, a somewhat skilled and responsible job. But 35 years later, I agree that $9 per hour is not a "living wage" at least in terms of having your own household and a "real life". I agree with a logical and graduated increase in minimum wage.

    But it comes at a cost, a cost to you. So are you ready to decrease your standard of living to help others? Well, are you punk?

    And for the "fast food" example, sure many jobs will be lost, and a sudden jump to $15 will equate to a not instantaneous, but pretty quick increase in robots and automated systems, and loss of jobs for exactly those you are trying to "help" and maybe not so much other opportunities.

    now throw on an Entitlement Attitude, lack of education and skills (nor respect for the same), and Soros et al could probably bribe those people to riot in the street, or go on Marches….oh wait, that is happening…..sheesh.

    • And to emphasize the brilliance of HoTaters comment—-"structural problems"

      We have real basic problems, structural problems with our society and our economy. You know how you create wealth?

      1) Proper management of microbes and plankton / algae
      2) Building things that people want AND need
      3) Providing services that people want and need
      4) Nurturing the environment, not killing it
      5) Proper laws and reward system to encourage success and wealth.

      Any questions?

      Oh—and figuring out ways to minimize costs of health care, and wars. Eliminating these deep drawdowns that suck resources out of possibly being productive wealth creators.

      • DUDe DUDe

        "..But it comes at a cost, a cost to you. So are you ready to decrease your standard of living to help others? Well, are you punk?.."

        Who is the "punk" lol ?

        "..5) Proper laws and reward system to encourage success and wealth.."

        Could you elaborate a bit on the concept of "wealth" , so that i know what that means to you ? Just a attack on the opposite extreme is not what i'm looking for..but a describing of the spectrum..where it starts..where it ends..

        "..1) Proper management of microbes and plankton / algae.."

        How ? You defend Trump..so you most have a way to save the planet that is compatible with that person's mental activity..

        "..Any questions?

        Oh—and figuring out ways to minimize costs of health care, and wars. Eliminating these deep drawdowns that suck resources out of possibly being productive wealth creators.."

        Question..why is healthcare first ? Does it cost more then america's wars and therefore more urgent ? And why is there not a word about trump trying to turn that "saving cost" in to..culling..

        • DUDe, it was a Dirty Harry Joke/Reference

          Wealth means when you have almost everything you need. I do agree it makes sense to put a limit on wealth. Like, once you are past 1 billion it gets a little crazy.

          So sure, a wealth tax, based on total assets. $1B=2% annual tax, $4B, 10% annual tax, over than 12.5% annual tax.

          There—fixed that.

          "How ? You defend Trump..so you most have a way to save the planet that is compatible with that person's mental activity.."

          We need to fix serious structural problems in our society, including the sociopaths of the NWO that would like sell their crappy shite anywhere anytime, and never have to deal with the objections of the pesky common people ever again. No other President since Kennedy showed any chance of dealing with this most serious of problems. Ya, he is a loose cannon at times. Deal with it, and not by blatant attacks on anyone who would like to see the president make positive changes.

          All attempts at impeachment are disingenuous, because it is not going to happen, it is on the grand plan, just a plan to continue to divide the country, and to obstruct government.

          Order of listing makes no inference as to importance. stock out

          • DUDe DUDe

            "..Wealth means when you have almost everything you need. I do agree it makes sense to put a limit on wealth. Like, once you are past 1 billion it gets a little crazy.."

            1 billion ? Crazy ! Although..i'm sure for some thats still ridiculous litle..Rotchild comes to mind..

            Exactly what kind of "NEED" are we talking about ? And why should it be possible to create such a gap between the richest and the poorest..aka why should anyone be allowed to generate so much poverty to pay for that kind of elitair "need" ? and how can the planet nurture such a crazy dominant species and its ego "needs" without keeling over in 200 years like its doing now..

            Clearly not maslow's pyramid.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs

            5 million in a world with no inflation or devaluation or fake money etc would be more then generous enough i think but thats just me..

            ".. Deal with it, and not by blatant attacks on anyone who would like to see the president make positive changes.."

            Goes both way's or its just semantics..you attacked the climate corruption for six years in a row..besides , i still couldent find any summary of "positive changes" that person did or is working on long enough to generate the benefit of the doubt..things that makes every sane person feel terrorized out of their last hope on the other hand..

            Any "ruler" of the USA that accuses a country of things USA is doing as pretext for military action or blackmail is NWO..
            NO ?

    • EVERYTHING is about inputs and outputs…

      With the proper inputs you won't need any healthcare to begin with…

      How do you think we got here before the pills came along? How did humans survive without blood pressure meds and the like? Quite well for the most part…

      Now pollution and poor diet and exercise has ruined our health…

      Bad inputs of pollution and poisons in all forms permeate our life…

      The new way to keep a clean house? Spray chemicals to clean our homes, insecticides to kill the bugs, paints that are degrading to our health, get you some air freshener and spray it to cover up all the smells, treat your home for termites with poisons that remain active for over 10 years…

      Don't forget to eat lifeless foods that are void of any real nutrition and wash your clothes in a myriad of chemicals designed to produce pleasant scents for you to breathe and absorb through your skin…

      I wonder why America needs health care on such a grand scale….

      Here's a link to the vanilla explanation of the top ten causes of death in America.

      Notice there are no references to pollution or diet as any factor considered.

      No wonder we are sicker than ever…

      https://www.livescience.com/35385-top-10-leading-causes-of-death.html

      Here's one from older data that has good maps…

      Notice the differences and similarities?

      http://www.slate

      • Here's some death maps from older data that has good maps…

        Notice the differences and similarities?

        http://www.slate.com/articles/life/culturebox/2014/06/death_map_the_most_common_causes_of_death_in_each_state_of_the_union.html

        Here's another totally nondescript article with all the stats and 0 answers…

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/us-life-expectancy-declines-for-the-first-time-since-1993/2016/12/07/7dcdc7b4-bc93-11e6-91ee-1adddfe36cbe_story.html?utm_term=.6d3097f047ba

        No legitimate healthcare worker or scientist will deny that pollution, marketed poisons and chemicals in our households, our poor diet and lack of any real exercise account for most diseases in our country…

        They rarely ever mention these facts or provide any real solutions to anyone before they are sick.

        Is this bad training or bad for business?

        The fact is that big business wants to get their products to market and it will fight tooth and nail with a room full of lawyers to do that regardless of who it hurts down the line.

        The only way to truly change this trend is when we refuse to buy their products or their convenient truths about the safety of these products…

        Ya have to find these causes for yourself as the industries that cause them will never tell you and more often than not suppress any information that's not convenient for them…

        • q Farthington MacMananus

          "The only way to truly change this trend is when we refuse to buy their products or their convenient truths about the safety of these products…"

          Thanks bro. You just described government, christianity, etc's pandering. That was incredibly concise.

          Stupid consumerists fuckwits.

        • q Farthington MacMananus

          My own experience, with "free"masonry and christianity suggests that conveniently ignorant pandering is indeed one of their associative "qualities". Well I'm here to tell you, time doesn't heal.

        • q Farthington MacMananus

          You know the Kraft, right, like Jacob's ladder?

        • q Farthington MacMananus

          Biding my time, I've been fucking loading a LOT of vitriol assholes. You fucktards didn't listen and I promise you will be forced hear.

          • Well I gotta say after reading ole Farthington's posts just today tha he has real problems that have little to do with the discussion topics.

            The score?

            0 manners

            0 real facts

            0 writing skills

            And a -0 (less than 0) mental health quotient…

            Boy the score is real posters 1

            Farthington -0

            • q Farthington MacMananus

              Manners? fake niceties.
              Real facts? go watch cnn and fox news dumb cunt.
              Zero writing skills? maybe.
              Mental health quotient? Well, I was court-ordered into a mental ward and released 3 days later, because I can bullshit.

              • Manners? fake niceties?

                Nope just common courtesies that sane people employ…

                I never said anything about it being fake, although it obvious that it will be fake coming from you…

                There is no substitute for intelligence and common politeness but I see without doubt that if it came from you it would be fake.

                It has become apparent by your own hand typing it out that you have no clue…

                Just another fake trying to impress with cheap antics…

            • q Farthington MacMananus

              Real posters like you and PT and stock?

            • q Farthington MacMananus

              Fact.

              http://store.steampowered.com/app/602520/agecheck

              That's apparently acceptable. Nice reflection of society hey?

              • q Farthington MacMananus

                But come on, call me a pedophile for pointing out bullshit. Equate me with supremacist, socialist leftist ideals. There's absolutely fucking nothing you can say to me that I haven't heard before from projective pieces of shit.

                • Jebus Jebus

                  If I want a hard core reality refresher, I watch a couple of Kevin Blanche's vids.

                  You have nothing on him…

                • danger kitty danger kitty

                  Frank, your choice of target (enenews) makes no sense. One the few places shedding light on all you decry (not JUST nuclear).
                  Your tough guy act? A facade to deflect yet receive more pain. You may not remember, but we have seen you naked, at the end of your long day's journey into night. A plaintive cry for something to hold on to. Rage at us for not being messiah. I know the feeling. Been there, from both sides. It's a borderline siuation.
                  You enjoy your pain? By all means, carrion. But there's more to life than dead meat. The only thing you can hold on to is yourself. If you want to shed pain, check
                  out my links re: shamanic tech. Bottom of page 3, Alarming mass die-off on California beaches — “Extremely high” number of sick and dead animals —
                  I share your rage at the planet killers. Your way of dealing, not effective, not helping you.

                  • q Farthington MacMananus

                    I no longer care to support to "help" the planet killers. Make sense? Nah, doesn't matter.

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Of course it makes sense, Frank. To everyone who sticks around.

                      Again, each individual is wonderful and unique.

                      Even with your hard core rhetoric, you are just trying to survive.

                      It's when we divide into focus groups that we fail to get it together.

                      Mass awareness is the key to change.

                      By vote or eventually flying chairs.

                      It's never been more true, the closer we get.

                      It's one Earth.

                      If you startle the herd too soon they will get captured again.

                      They have to be falling to get up.

                      It would be an historical first for someone, something, to guide the herd away from the precipice…

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Bullshit Jebus, bullshit. Humans are collectively ignorant, manifested mob mentality as a shadow, not even honest enough to proclaim their ego. Ergo, fuckoff.

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      By having no children, there is no way you can understand…

                    • Amen Jeb!!! Try raising someone, even if it's yourself…

                      That muscle (in your brain) like all others only reacts to exercise.

                      If you raise a child (your's or not) you will grow that muscle, if you help to raise the environment you will grow that muscle, if you lay down to complain you will only raise your odds of dying from heart attack and/or stroke…

                      The real facts of evolution without opinion…

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      It's not your brain that is exorcised when you have children and grandchildren…

                    • Huh? Ever had to coordinate meals for 5 children or 10 or 50?

                      Ever had to train them how to get along with each other at the dinner table?

                      Ever had to make sure they get the real viable nutrients to grow into happy and productive individuals?

                      Ever had to go searching for one that was lost and/or missing?

                      Damn right it effects and exercises your brain and it's the best thing for your problem solving skills I've (personally) ever encountered…

                      These activities are "fast forward" brain function in every respect and ultimately important in every respect…

                      …if you really care about them.

                      Raising someone or something isn't some made up thing, it's a common understanding for the ones that are actually doing it everyday….

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      You already had that capacity before taking care of your children.

                      It's your heart that changes the most.

                      The hope for their future you didn't know before and will not know after.

                      It make's you kinda give a damn…

                    • Well again jeb it's a nuro activity thast gets exiced and increases that area of understanding and that area of the brain…

                      Grow good thinking and grow just like working your chest mussels, a targeted exercise will increase function and then the ability follows shortly afterwards…

                      Simple biology…

                      Now couple it with a good understanding of what you are doing (everyday) to understand the process and the benefits…

                      A spiritual thing undefined in science after a short time…

                  • danger kitty danger kitty

                    As for your proposed solution; stop consumption; not easy to do, hard for average people to get behind. Cutting off tax money flowing to the machine would be more effective. Unfortunately, by the time things get bad enough for tax resistance to appeal, it may be too late…

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Not my problem. I have no issues with death.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Good to hear you have no issues with death, Frank. But, I have it on good authority (those pesky wizards/shamans), that state of mind at death matters.
                      Be bound by the chains of anger & hate, there may be a slight delay at boarding…

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Well uhm, I'm the lord of the underworld. Try and depose me.

                    • Yea but not possible under this system.

                      Starve a cold feed a fever, or is it feed a fever starve a cold…

                      After a while it may be believed that you feed a cold and starve a fever…

                      Money is the universal language and universal change here on earth right now in history.

                      Nothing else even comes close to the power to choose NOT to spend your money on something.

                      That's how you shape industry….

                      Just look at the record for proof of that fact…

                      Seems simple doesn't it? Don't buy it and they (whoever they are) will have to change their business practices.

                      Make it public, shout it from the rooftops, fight fire with fire…

                      Hard to implement but simple to understand…

                      …and it's basic cause and effect, just like radiation and pollution in all forms…

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      You're the lord of the underworld? Lol. No. You're not. But you'll find that out in time…
                      One more question, then I'm planting a tree: you're making quite the effort. Why? Why are you here?

                    • Well by golly the lord of Fart Ing Tons thinks he's special…

                      You are special just not the way you perceive it to be…

                      Blindness shows it's ugly head and I'll bet 20 dollars to a doughnut you have no idea what I'm saying…

                      Your eyes work but you still just can't see…

                      Try going on a truth and civility diet before it's too late and pull your weight in truth and help for others…

                      The only way to help yourself is to help those around you.

                      And true happiness comes from that philosophy put into action…

                      Happiness is helping others:

                      https://youtu.be/zcruIov45bI

                    • DUDe DUDe

                      "..you're making quite the effort. Why? Why are you here?.."

                      Same question here..

                  • q Farthington MacMananus

                    So jebus, you're appealing for legacy? That was your move dude. I do not have children, I refuse to have children in this system.

                    I'm still a child, mentally, spiritually and I refuse to be an "adult".

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      not in favor of everyone getting a living sum of money? I have an alternative; Give them enough rice and beans to eat, fresh water and a place to poop…some kind of shelter from the harsh elements, and some clothes to wear. The rest is gravy…programs that allow them to be productive and healthy, expressive and artistic. Or should men starve or kill themselves, while we feed and house our dogs and cats?

  • Jebus Jebus

    The most ridiculus part is that say they come here to post and teach everyone everything that has been said here a million times before.

    Everyone here sees and has seen the aggregate of the truth.

    They hide behind it like it's their shield. lol…

  • Wow, FM compared PT and stock in the same sentence. Ouch, I am taking my ball full of domoic acid and leaving!

  • Jebus Jebus

    Problem solved. God found…

    Robot priest named BlessU-2 delivers blessings to a congregation while beaming light from its palms

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/3687923/robot-priest-called-blessu-2-delivers-blessings-like-a-religious-cash-machine-while-it-beams-lights-from-its-palms/

    Approach awareness first Frank…

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    You are listening to Cronus…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelisk

    Tyranny is not a choice and I've delegated the task of transportation to pluto.

  • Byrian416

    Damian "Jr. Gong" Marley – Medication ft. Stephen Marley

    CANNABIS HEALS!

  • Byrian416

    CONSPIRACY THEORY – THE MANDELA EFFECT

  • Fair skies? Maybe changing tomorrow…

    Best to pay attention…

    https://youtu.be/TQmz6Rbpnu0?t=4s

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Without Glass-Steagall America Will Fail
    By Paul Craig Roberts
    June 10, 2017 "Information Clearing House" – For 66 years the Glass-Steagall act reduced the risks in the banking system. Eight years after the act was repealed, the banking system blew up threatening the international economy. US taxpayers were forced to come up with $750 billion dollars, a sum much larger than the Pentagon’s budget, in order to bail out the banks. This huge sum was insufficient to do the job. The Federal Reserve had to step in and expand its balance sheet by $4 trillion in order to protect the solvency of banks declared “too big to fail.” http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47217.htm

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    Awaken, Western World, this may be your future:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWdGTZGUmJs

    Anti-Sharia law protests here on the West Coast, in the U.S. today.

    Sure enough, those unwilling to see Sharia law for what it is were quick to say the protests are racist.

  • Hmmm, America does not like Sharia law. So why this?

    Trump Cozies Up To Human Rights Violating Saudi Arabia, A Dictatorial, Despotic Regime That Stones People Who Protest King To Death, Chops Off Hands Of Children Or Beheads Them And Sponsors Terrorism Including 9/11 Attack On USA; Why?
    http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2017/05/trump-cozies-up-to-human-rights.html

    Saudis sponsor Sharia law schools globally, as well as terrorists.

    Why is Trump so cozy with them?

  • Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Maybe Trump is helping the Saudis install Sharia law in the US?

  • Top Republicans caught taking cash from Russian, despite it being illegal

    https://www.facebook.com/ContentNewsVideos/videos/806589879505860/

    Maybe this is why they block all investigations in that direction???

  • If you think terrorism is the biggest threat to the West, you need to watch this video
    https://www.facebook.com/ThisIsZinc/videos/558966407637363/

  • Marc Kasowitz — the attorney President Trump recently retained to defend himself from Russian collusion allegations — also has a history with Russia.

    As Reuters reported on Tuesday evening, Kasowitz, a New York-based lawyer who has represented the Trump campaign in the past, will be directly defending President Trump during the FBI investigation overseen by former FBI Director and special counsel Robert Mueller. Kasowitz will be working separately from chief White House counsel Don McGahn.

    In addition to President Trump, another high-profile client Kasowitz represents is OJSC Sberbank, which is the biggest bank in Russia. According to BuzzFeed News, OJSC Sberbank retained Kasowitz to defend itself against allegations that it conspired to take over granite company P-Granit through an assortment of shell companies that, over time, acquired a majority stake in the company and cornered the owner into making a deal with the bank. P-Granit filed the suit in U.S. District Court in New York, arguing that the courts in Russia are too compromised and corrupt to render a fair decision.http://resistancereport.com/politics/trump-lawyer-russia/

    Russia, Russia, Russia, RUSSIA, PUTIN

  • Russia Investigation Now Includes Trump's Personal Lawyer
    https://www.facebook.com/davidpakmanshow/videos/1500583996653274/

    Hmmm, wonder why?

    Oh Yea, RUSSIA, CONNECTIONS

    Russia, Russia, Russia, RUSSIA, PUTIN

    Better lawyer up…

  • Donald Trump’s Russia Connections Is Assembling a Murderer’s Row of Prosecutors

    They include men and women responsible for bringing down Nixon, Enron, and the mafia.
    http://www.gq.com/story/robert-mueller-russia-investigation-team

  • Of course, trump is completely vindicated… so truthful, so honest.. he could never tell a lie, right?

    Trump’s lies are not the problem. It’s the millions who swallow them who really matter

    They say that of course they don’t support everything Trump does. Their throats cleared and backs covered, they insist that the real enemy is his “foaming” and “hysterical” critics whose opposition to the alt-right is not a legitimate protest by democratic citizens but an “elitist” denial of democracy itself.

    Brecht wrote against the dangers of inertia in 1935 as Hitler was changing Germany beyond recognition : Even in fabled Atlantis, the night that the ocean engulfed it, The drowning still cried out for their slaves.

    Comparisons with 20th-century totalitarianism are not wholly exaggerated. With Trump, the lies are a dictatorial assertion of his will to power. “I am in control,” he says, in effect, as he conjures imaginary crowds at his inauguration or invents millions of illegal voters so he can pretend he won the popular vote. “You may know I am lying. But if you contradict me, I will make you pay.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/05/donald-trump-lies-belief-totalitarianism?CMP=share_btn_fb

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