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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    He should change his name to Loquacious of Borg

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Maybe it's just me, but there seem to be fewer buffalo around.

  • DUDe DUDe

    Violence begets violence..but it all originates from the zionist warprofiting bankers and their mercenary USA and every government corrupt enough to participate in the saturation of the world with terrorist's by "spreading democracy"..

    Just in..

    http://heavy.com/news/2017/06/finsbury-park-mosque-car-ramming-terrorist-attack-muslims-prayer-suspect-pictures-photos/

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      We need republicans to spread democracy. (Mad Hatter laughing) We need democrats to spark the republican renaissance. We need to "go over there" to make sure they "don't come over here" But then they go over there and ship them over here. They run over us so we run over them. We sell alot of bullets wtf An ELE would bring some peace, and CO2 decays into oxygen and carbon and carbon is just evil. Algae produces domoic acid half the world's oxygen, can't it just get along? I took two sleeping pills and I'm still typing. I'm a big dummy. Night.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    The West Pacific remains quiet.

    http://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane/west-pacific

    Thank you, Lord.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Cadences of absonance, what does that even mean?

    Weep quietly, at my feet, I will attend no funerals.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    No more sun. It is done. You traitors do not deserve respect.

  • Troll expose'

    Alternative News and Activist websites have been targeted by corporate and governmental organization for a long time.

    They send "trolls" to screw up the conversations, to confuse, dilute, disgust.

    A new type of troll showed up at ENENEWS, to degrade the site, get people to leave.
    I have left, until the admin bans this troll critter.

    https://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2017/06/techniques-and-sample-posts-from-modern.html

    • q Farthington MacMananus

      Why pay for advertising when you can get stock to post about his insecurities? Repeatedly.

      I remember setting some snares, kind of trappy, when I did some worldcrafting, related to quake.

      Pure insanity.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    It's music, in case you're not interested.

    Sly fly? Nice try, here's something. Oh my, this guy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrRrTZKsOME

    Coolest hat I've ever seen.

    https://droidsattack.bandcamp.com/track/enoch

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    "NASA's 8th attempt to launch a Terrier Improved Malemute sounding rocket from Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia was aborted on June 18th due to unfavorable winds. Attempt #9 is scheduled for June 19th between 9:06 and 9:21 p.m. EDT. On a mission to study the dynamics of the ionosphere, the rocket will create a colorful display of artificial clouds high above the eastern seaboard of the USA. Blue-green and red vapors may be visible from New York to North Carolina between 4 and 5.5 minutes after launch."

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    I won a bunch of books as prizes when I was at school. Probably the biggest and coolest one is garden earth, it's a time life book. Ah, the memories.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    A strikingly accurate article, along with the blog heading.

    "Beyond sustainability"

    http://gardenearth.blogspot.com/2017/06/how-capitalism-realized-communist-dream.html

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    E-Cigarettes Can Be Used to Hack Computers, Could Encourage Them to Start Smoking

    https://www.extremetech.com/computing/250997-e-cigarettes-can-used-hack-computers-encourage-start-smoking

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Svastika, svastika, anyvon?

    https://www.booksfact.com/life-style/whirling-log-native-americans-swastika.html

    So wait a minute, those all seem to kinda worship the Sun in some way or another.

    I wonder who demonized it. I wonder who tries to abuse it.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    I notice the depiction of typically promoted socialist/communist government is that of the left hand path. Then I also noticed that those governments also have hierarchies, much like capitalist societs, then I noticed parallels to monarchy.

    Then I referred to: http://enenews.com/forum-off-topic-discussion-thread-non-nuclear-issues-new-as-of-january-2017?replytocom=845343#respond

    And so I suggest that none of those are actually liberal, libertarian, democratic or conservative.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Chemtrails anyone? Wah wah.

    "I am the God of the air your breathing, you can't escape what I'm feeling, I will make you die"

    That's for trying to teach me to cry.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Dorian posted this. Wtf is Dorian?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6qp5ZDuyFs

    • q Farthington MacMananus

      Notice the extremist censoring mentality, or should I say, artificiality, they suggest to be promoted?

      • q Farthington MacMananus

        Straight.

        "Terrorism is an attack on open societies, and addressing the threat posed by violence and hate is a critical challenge for us all," said Kent Walker, Google general council.

        He added: “Extremists and terrorists seek to attack and erode not just our security, but also our values; the very things that make our societies open and free. We must not let them."

        So, they should block FOX news, CNN, etc then. All of those depict violence and try play on your emotions.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Took a leek. Applied some geometry rather than algebraic exponents. Look, a peak. Let's see how that works out.

  • I just want to say one thing not on the topic of trolls, because it is really important.

    Prepare for war

    I was on several US Destroyers. One event was a "friends and family" day in which we went out on the DDG. Did a full speed run, got to fire some of the big guns. At the end my Filipina friend who invited me introduced me to the Chief Engineer, who gave me a 1.5 hour personal tour of the ship including engines, propulsion, some of the weaponry area, radar room. He was very proud and really happy to be showing it to an engineer that could understand it.

    So the bridge is basically covered in radar sensors, that can detect a quarter at 250 miles in space. They can track hundreds of objects and have automatic threat assessments, even full auto threat "termination" if they want to set it like that.

    So what is the real story? That a Philippine container ship just randomly happened to run into the destroyer?

    This doesn't get traction at all in reality. Maybe USA wants the Philippines as a new territory, and will use this "allowed attack" and of course the humanitarian need to save them from their murdering president. I don't know.

    But the story that a container ship struck a US Destroyer is utter bunk….at least as an "accident". These ships are 1.6B each, probably hundreds of millions in damage was done, and expected loss of life.

    • From the ships Facebook page

      USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62)
      June 16 at 10:59pm ·

      UPDATE: *** DO NOT TAKE PHOTOS OF THE SHIP***

      https://www.facebook.com/FightnFITZ/

      Your cooperation is appriciated.

      The ship will be arriving approximately 1830 at pier 12 (also known as Ronald Reagan pier). There will be a designated area for families to wait. Due to the state of the ship Sailors may not be able to depart the ship for a long while. There will be food available for the Sailors as they might not have been able to eat during this time.

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Correct. It IS a WARSHIP. It is always ready/assessing. . Period.

      USN runs Drills, a lot, anytime, 24/7, practicing,,,for the real thing.
      Constant flow of new/different crew…demands it.

      Otherwise, they would just sit at a dock and wait.

      Hit by a 700' target, came out of nowhere?

      NO.

      • Ya, it was a warship, in what is basically an active war zone with NK launching ballistic missiles potentially with nukes and enough range to reach Japan, maybe Guam

        Someone said…"maybe they were all sleeping", sorry, it don't work like that. But that begs the question…why.

        this is not simple incompetence

        When I see online discussions talking about "who had the right of way" I immediately know that the narrative is already being controlled.

        Warship in warzone, never let anyone get close enough to do damage

        Saturday night/Sunday morning, always a good time to attack….like pearl harbor.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      They weren't looking for it, because they didn't expect to find it? Neo-science predictive radar?

    • Amazing to see good comments and discussion over there, good work Alan. nice to have a forum without 80% troll trash.

      They just did a major rebuild, systems and weapons upgrade on that ship, so under any scenario, hard to see why they wouldn't have used a non upgrade DDG. Unless the new systems sucked so bad, they wanted an excuse to get the next gen.

      But the story goes far deeper, as they wouldn't intentionally kill men just to get an upgrade. Maybe they killed the men to get the other military people agitated, ready for action.

      I coincidentally have all have gas and gas storage topped off, maybe stock up on some other "short range outage" stuff

    • So funny, that I am so late to the game on this one.

      http://www.vesselofinterest.com/2017/06/mapping-acx-crystals-collision-with-uss.html

      Lots of good discussion.
      Philipino terrorist at the helm, while the captain sleeps, see opportunity, bares the door, and takes over…..

    • Really we crashed into them?

      Calling capitol BS on this spun out tripe…

      "US Navy destroyer crashes into Philippine container ship near Japanese coast – Update: 7 found dead, at least 3 injured"

      ..Maybe the most absurd headline I've read lately.

      It's hard to stop a train…

      …how about a destroyer?

      We need to focus on the container ship and not slap blame on our best and brightest before all the evidence is in or even becomes public…

      ..something must be done about our new electronic rumor mill ASAP.

      • Here's a real analogy with the real facts considered…

        "If you were in the driver seat of a self-driving car, hit another car, and your self-driving car kept driving along the road… how long would it take you to hit the off button? Well, it took the crew of the Crystal, who I'm positive were not on the bridge, 15 minutes to find the autopilot off button. Either they were very disoriented by the impact, or they weren't on the bridge to begin with, and had to get up to the bridge in order to shut down the autopilot"

        Here's all the real info again, posted above by stock…

        http://www.vesselofinterest.com/2017/06/mapping-acx-crystals-collision-with-uss.html

        Great post stock, thank you!!!!

      • OK here it is, you go and find the photo showing the damage done to the ACX Chrystal, then look at the anchor chain guide, The paint scuff is on the REAR of the guide, If the container ship was doing the ramming the paint scuff would be on the front of that guide, Very simple logic, proved by photographic evidence, not some rumor. The 45 degree impact and the scuff marks show exactly what happened.

        • DUDe DUDe

          At least they still going tru the hassle of creating false flags lol..

          • I agree completely dude, this whole the military hit them is a joke…

            They were actually kind enough to not sink the dumasses asleep at the wheel (eating or in their bunks) in the cargo ship and take the hit…

            Sad that people place these false and twisted images out there with crazy explanations that don't even follow the laws of simple physics…

            (not you Alan, your sources)

            And they always conveniently seem to leave out the photo angles that would show the real truth.

            Stop the rumor mill now (and nuclear power too)!

            • I'll give ya a very simple truth on this…

              Who took the damage? A US destroyer? Was anyone killed on the cargo ship?

              A black belt can break a brick instead of his hand because the force of his blow is stronger than the brick, otherwise he would break his hand instead of the brick breaking.

              A destroyer is armored, a cargo ship is not…

              Which one took the hit?

              Simple physics tells the truth, twisted details are a silly not connected to anything explanation of nothing real…

            • DUDe DUDe

              I think you misunderstood me HD..

              "..like pearl harbor.." Aye stock..we see how it goes..

              • DUDe DUDe

                I'm not gonne study it in dept or argue HD..just having reservations accepting official versions about most of everything lol..we'l see..

              • Well the false flag comes from the rumor mill posters and those that have a agenda for attention and gain, many times (like infowars) strictly for money and and free publicity.

                The data tells the truth and can't be changed in real life…

                But apparently nowadays full grown adults fall for santa clause bed time stories for whatever reason.

                Sad and a real shame…

                …just another pizzagate style putup story that some will swallow and believe no matter how ridiculous the tale…

                  • I hope no one is silly enough to think for a moment that a fully armed and crewed US Destroyer would accidentally or intentionally ram a cargo ship in open water…

                    Most ridiculous thing I've heard lately…

                    …and a startling indicator of the mental health and gullibility that exists in the world today.

                  • "This i know, the captain of the USS Fitzgerald IS at fault in this ramming"

                    Nope Rule 13 states that it's the freighters fault…

                    Kinda like a rear end collision between two cars, legally it's the person that hit the back of the car in front of them 100% of the time and is not even contestable. Not to mention war ships have the right of way in ALL situations perioud.

                    Although I will say without doubt that there are some US sailors in some of the hottest water I've seen lately…

                    • SadieDog

                      Really HD? Could you explain Rule 13 please?

                    • SadieDog

                      HD said, "Kinda like a rear end collision between two cars, legally it's the person that hit the back of the car in front of them 100% of the time and is not even contestable. Not to mention war ships have the right of way in ALL situations perioud.". Really? 100% of the time? And warships have the right of way all the time? Really? Gee, I'd like to read bout those two facts of truth. Do you have a link?

                    • SadieDog

                      Seems to me that Rules 7 and 8 would pertain more to this situation.
                      https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/navrules/navrules.pdf

                    • Look it up yourself sadie, according to you you can find out all the true stuff we don't know on your own, but it seems you can't find none of the in writing facts we do know to be true.

                      I'm not a mental health professional or a babysitter….

                    • Oh yea and by the way sadie to answer your veiled question of:

                      "dilutions.(?)" When a person dilutes true facts with fantastic falsehoods (or conveniently ignores deciding truths) their conception of the truth then turns into fairy tale thinking…

                    • SadieDog

                      So you have no links or valid arguments? No shit. Well do you have a link for that definition? Or did you make that up too?

                  • SadieDog

                    Funny you posted a Back to the Future clip, ironic actually, since yer bitchin about people that post about false flags and truth. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Sadie, was Columbine real or performance art?
                      Is it safe to assume the shoot outs involving autistic kids on anti depressants are real?
                      On the road, bbl

                    • SadieDog

                      I've never called Columbine a hoax. I don't have the evidence to say. And I've looked. But Sandy Hook, Boston, Orlando… Total bullshit. No one got hurt or died.

                    • SadieDog

                      Forgot Aurora/batman shooting. Fake. Dylann Roof. Fake. Jared Loughner. Fake. Give me a minute, there's more.

                    • SadieDog

                      The Boston marathon non-bombing, might be one of the most obviously faked events in history, if anyone would take 2 hours to look at the pictures and watch 5 videos. It's truly sad and just utterly unbelievable to me that this was accepted.

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Thanks Sadie. Was just curious about Columbine. Figured you'd know. Not enough time to explore that rabbit hole myself.
                      I do know WTC was a con. Sure, planes hit the buildings. But buildings DO NOT dissolve into projectile fountains of fine dust from the top down.
                      Tho, some you might argue with have a boy scout view of American history.

                    • Don't know what that (back to the future clip) would have to do with anything sadie but then I live in the real world of facts instead of fairy tales…

                      Like when you say:

                      "The Boston marathon non-bombing, might be one of the most obviously faked events in history"

                      "Aurora/batman shooting. Fake"

                      And..

                      "Sandy Hook, Boston, Orlando… Total bullshit. No one got hurt or died."

                      Well we now know beyond doubt you are crazy as a bedbug…

                      When you fill your brain with lies you fall for the very thing that you think you are avoiding…

                      That would be sico and physco programming by evil liars and glory hounds seeking to control you with lies.

                      And you say the people didn't get killed?

                      Tell that to the families on the victims you disturbed and insane mouth runner.

                      It's worthless crazies that victimize these poor families again and again.

                      You should be ashamed of yourself but your dilutions keep you from even being close to the actual world some of us still live in… Nutty as a fruitcake without doubt…

                    • SadieDog

                      Project much? I would tell the phonies to their faces what I think of them. And I don't want to live in your actual world. I'll stick with my… dilutions.(?) Go back to sleep.

                    • SadieDog

                      No kids died at Sandy Hook. Nobody was injured in Boston. Gabby Giffords is a fake gimp. I hate her and her lying, astro-not husband. Perfect couple.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HDog; "Well we now know beyond doubt you [Sadie] are crazy as a bedbug" Now catch this; Sadie (correctly) points out several atrocious state sponsored terrorist acts, yet introduces flat earth, totally substantiating 'adult hippie everymans common sense rock hero' statement of crazy. Thus 'conspiracy theorists are crazy' is a concrete meme. Its cemented and now all the conspiracy lunacy like Fukushima is dangerous, or the world trade center was controlled demolition can be tossed in the trash and you can turn on CNN. Good teamwork boys…proud of your efforts?

                    • SadieDog

                      Yes. I am proud that I ask questions and am not afraid to think for myself. 🙂
                      Do I want people to agree with everything I say or think? No. Do your own research. Very simple.

                    • Ya know bat shit crazies rarely ever just look at whay they think and do and then just stop a moment and say to themselves, Ya know I am completely blind to the real world and my thoughts, actions and crusades asr completely off the rails of truth and reality…

                      If they did there wouldn't be all the nuts that there are in the world…

                      Bad information programing, weak and easily led people, bad genes, brain damage, drugs (prescription or not) it doesn't really matter in the long run.

                      Crazy is crazy and as ole Gump said "stupid is as stupid does"…

                      Now I wonder why someone like Cris buzby won't waste his time and what's left of his reputation on this site posting to the likes of you…

                      Wow what a mystery huh…

                      This place is so riddled with the insasne it makes one shiver just to think there are that many out there withg these totally false assumptionj acting as if they know something the rest of us sane and educated people don't know…

                      Crap into you mind, crap out of your mind.

                      And before too long just plain out of your mind…

                    • SadieDog

                      You are a non thinker, have done no research on the topics you speak of and your an asshole. Later.

                    • SadieDog

                      * you're an asshole.

                    • The TRUTH of the matter is you've done no LEGITIMATE research on the topics YOU speak of either…

                      Grow a brain and get some help before you fall off the edge of the fake flat earth you say you have researched and is real…

                      Purely pitiful state of mental health…

                      Try keeping your fairy tale research that hurts others (and you too) to your self…

                      Or join a forum like:
                      http://the_insane_post_totally_fake_delusions_here.com

                      The sad part is someone could put up a site that said the aliens have landed and some idiot out there would believe it was legitimate research and then quote it on a environmental site as if it were true…

                      Quadruple Wowsers….

                    • Byrian416

                      @HippieDog, I agree with SadieDog, you're a non thinking asshole!!!!

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      "… as if they know something the rest of us sane and educated people don't know…"

                      Profoundly sick.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      perfect straw men

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Hippie..do you really think you are sane?

                      I am thinking we are all a few steps off that there sanity mark! 🙂

                      The play on the human mind goes on..

                      will.i.am – The World Is Crazy (Music Video) – YouTube
                      Video for will I am crazy youtube▶ 3:58
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvwmDfw24W8

                    • Well one thing is for sure I've gotten responses for the top of the heap loonies after writing that post.

                      All ya have to do is post truth and good sense and the loonies comma running like roaches when the lights come on…

                      Here's 3 of the biggest lunatic posters we have here at enenews.com

                      Please make a note of it!!!

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      hey, a glimmer of truth; HDog; "The TRUTH of the matter is you've done no LEGITIMATE research on the topics YOU speak of either…" Either?? EITHER??? quadruple wowsers, the HDog admits he hasnt done any legitimate research on the topics he is talking about. Straight from the Dogs mouth!

                      At least Sadie did enough research to be able to discredit conspiracy theorists in the end. But savvy citizens know; that which is discredited or debunked often is a suppressed jewel of info.

                      So the straw men lose. You can see why the government wants total control of social media….

                      sooner or later, this photo will awaken enough sheeple from their indoctrinated slumber
                      http://www.bollyn.com/public/Explosive_demolition_WTC.jpg

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      It is OK to admit the world has gone crazy..grasp it with both hands and hold on tight to it!

                      Ke$ha – Crazy Kids ft. will.i.am – YouTube
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeFB7I0YH4

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Hey Frank, not sure where this lands, but a little 'background' fyi. Mr. H.Dog has shown hisself to be a strong supporter of oil & gas pipeline as 'safe'. By extension, he supports fracking. Also by extension, he was a veritable cheerleader for the illegal violation of Lakota treaty rights in the military assaults at Standing Rock.
                      He seems to have a side brief selling boy scout happy talk views of American history. He can be as relentless as Anne on that topic. Spider attacks? idn
                      You see how he schmoozes. Badly.
                      So, profoundly sick? Yes & no. Paid?
                      Anyway, Mr. H, D. has not enough B's in his name to power a 40 watt lightbulb.
                      I'm out till later. hit & run driveby

                    • Sorry obe post went to the thread below (and no it's not a mystery or conspiracy, I simply posted it in the wrong place by mistake).

                      As for codes comments, Your (code) disinformation that I don't do true research (and said that about myself) is as juvenile, inaccurate and defaming as most everything you post here.

                      Take a reading comprehension course and while your there a ethics course would be a mandatory class as well…

                      Grow up weirdos and shut-ins…

                    • Well here comes another insane disinformation artist…

                      I never said i supported oil and gas, i said i didn't support yout BS facts you said about it and the record shows you were blowing the facts up and twisting them into complete lies DC…

                      Just like your comment about my opinion on the subject… A complete lie!!!

                      Go figure liers telling lies, who would have thunk it?

                      Anyone that has read your posts, that's who…

                      Hope sane and honest people are keeping a list of these disinformation and loonies responding to this thread.

                      A very useful list of who not to believe when they post here…

                    • danger kitty danger kitty

                      Typo: HD does not have enuf -→ H's ← in his name to light a dim bulb. How smart does a disc jockey have to be?
                      Now HHD, Hiibilly Hound Dog, is incandescent. Shines Light in dark corporate spaces. Things 'they’ would rather we didn't know.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      You may not like this, but I understand the sentiment, perhaps.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q4FkTm3Q40

                  • 8600 tons of destroyer in a turn…

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vih4tGmqjs

                    If you have this at your disposal you should have no trouble missing a 18 knot container ship.

                    Same is true if you intended to have this ship contact said container ship.

                    • OK the key to this one is "high speed"

                      At the time this happened how fast was the destroyer going? We won't know until the information is declassified but I spoke with someone who will remain nameless that said these maneuvers are only possible at high speed…

                      I'm not one to jump too soon on something, right now we just don't have the information available to make any kind of a decision on exactly what happened…

                      Except for these known and proven facts:

                      The cargo ship was traveling on auto pilot.

                      The cargo ship rammed the Destroyer without doubt anyone involved could tell you that.

                      The cargo ship continued on auto pilot for more than 15 minuets after the collision.

                      THAT MUCH HAS BEEN CONFIRMED 100%…

                      I'll wait to see the rest of the evidence before I make ANY other decisions.

                    • Could have been moving at 35 knots, even 25 knots, it does not make any difference, the scraping on the ACX prove the Fitz was traveling much faster, Anyhow when one in one story is cllaiming the ship (ACX0 was on auto pilot and another it's zig zaging all over one can see somebody is full of it. Anyone on the Fitz is going to keep their mouths shut. I am convinced this was a remote control attempt to sink the fitz using the on board control systems. I bet the men on the Fitz did everything they could to regain proper control of their ship, but failed to do so before the contact. The captain is on the chopping block as any of the crew that breaths any of the events to the public.

                    • Well let's see here…

                      "one in one story is cllaiming the ship (ACX0 was on auto pilot and another it's zig zaging all over one can see somebody is full of it"

                      Yep someone is for sure…

                      You don't think a loaded cargo ship would zig zag after broadsiding a frickin destroyer?

                      You don't think the autopilot is equipped with a safeguard to keep the ship from rolling over or dropping containers into the sea in the event of a storm? This is the 21st century man… We even have plains that land themselves.

                      Any idea of the weights and forces we are talking about here? Not a physics guy huh…

                      And are you also aware the remote monitoring systems are sent a signal constantly telling them that a ship has the autopilot turned on or off?

                      Apparently you are unaware that the satellite tracking system stations know and show this information (auto pilot on or off) on every cargo and tanker ship in the water in real time.

                      Don't jump to conclusions before knowing the real facts…

                      That's how all these rumors get started…

                    • What we know about Navy destroyer's deadly collision with a container ship off Japan

                      The ACX Crystal's route, provided by vessel-tracking service MarineTraffic, shows that the ship made a sudden turn at about 1:30 a.m., as if trying to avoid something, before continuing eastward.

                      The ACX Crystal then made a U-turn and returned around 2:20 a.m. to the area of the collision.

                      http://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-destroyers-deadly-collision-container-ship-japan/story?id=48131357

                      http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap-collision-tracker-ps-170619_21x16_992.jpg

                    • Well at this time there seems to be a question of a lost hour of time before the freighter called the coast guard…

                      So the abrupt change of course is considered the strike…

                      The us military communications are still classified (as they should be) but we will know sooner or later (FOIA)…

                      But all indications are it took the cargo ship around a hour to turn off the autopilot, make the u turn and return to the scene.

                      So I don't have to say this later: 15 minuets after the collision the auto pilot in the freighter was disengaged, it then had to slow, make a safe uturn and regain speed and then slow to a stop to get back to the site.

                      This fits with the tracking info I've seen almost perfectly and is the most reasonable explanation I can find.

                  • Not obewan he's a good guy…

                    obe must have commented while I was typing my reply and to answer your question…

                    The phrases all or none or every just don't apply when talking about humans…

                    The stories told here today about intentional fake shootings when people are dead and the hospital and onsite reports are detailed, in the public arena and have been and these people are dead (no spaceship rides, coffins and burials for them) shows the insanity and the complete inability to see the facts and make a rational decision from those obvious facts..

                    That one fact proves that these people are in fact insane or purposely spreading lies for whatever reason, doesn't matter why, it matters that these folks would post them period…

                    That's how you find the truth, from the evidence or in this cases the ridiculous fairy tales posted…

                    These stories and the people that spread them are out of this world and out of their minds.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      'these people are in fact insane or purposely spreading lies for whatever reason'

                      oh yeah, we know who those people are. No matter how many times you repeat insane brain damaged lunatic, you cant erase this photo. How does that feel?

                      https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bGzBUGZ3CnA/maxresdefault.jpg

                    • SadieDog

                      Hippie(pssh)Dog, does the CiA produce news stories in newspaper, television and other sources?

                    • You people either need to up you dose of meds or stop taking them altogether…

                      Ask your doctor…

                    • SadieDog

                      I'll take that as a no, you don't believe they do. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCfTIapds0

                    • CodeShutdown Wrote:

                      oh yeah, we know who those people are. No matter how many times you repeat insane brain damaged lunatic, you cant erase this photo. How does that feel?

                      HD says:

                      Are you implying you think the twin towers were intentionally downed by our government using demolition explosives code?

                      If you think the twin towers were a false flag and explosives were actually why these building fell listen to good solid reasoning…

                      That will be proof positive you are nuts and in NO way capable of actually researching ANYTHING on ANY SUBJECT!!!

                      Boy do these loonies give themselves away or what…

                    • SadieDog

                      HD, you say kids died at Sandy Hook. What are their names, can you tell me one without looking? No? Maybe this will help…
                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qOizUIdRIpA

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Code after that picture.. should I reach for my meds?

                      Wait I have no meds..I need meds..lots of meds..right now!
                      http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/7-bizarre-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/news-story/51a5e8dee2b311fafa11511d72afa7b5

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      The shame is that everyone out there is reaching for them there meds..they will bury you in paper work and then depression sets in once the people realize they are simply owned livestock.

                      Maryland consistently ranked as having among the highest rates of opioid-related emergency room and inpatient stays across all patient sex and age groups.

                      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4622448/Nearly-1-3-million-people-hospitalized-opioids.html#ixzz4kZoG8POM
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                    • SadieDog

                      2:30 of WTC Building 7. What's next HD?
                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWorDrTC0Qg

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HDog; "If you think the twin towers were a false flag and explosives were actually why these building fell…
                      That will be proof positive you are nuts and in NO way capable of actually researching ANYTHING on ANY SUBJECT!!!"

                      alright…on the left side of the ring we have Hippie Dog, and on the right side we have 2,879 architects and engineers. Let the match begin!

                      Buildings spontaneously exploding to powder? {officially called progressive collapse and NOT CAUSED by overheating/melting or structural engineering failure or failure of 55 core collumns) So thats one wowser and the Dog is on the floor from a mighty blow by the thousands of architects…but,…whats this? He is getting to his feet, like one of those punching dolls!

                      Buildings falling at free fall speed…and I hate to mention it because its so pitifully banal but the building 7 that had no plane impact…the second wowser…and Hippie is down again for the count…1, 2, 3…but he literally BOUNCES back up with a smile on his face! The crowd is going crazy!

                      the next round should be decisive…meet EDNA CINTRON, who stood in the hole the plane made grasping on to MELTING RED HOT METAL for 45 minutes, waving for help before being killed by nefarious criminals in the demolition.
                      http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ovR7V5EVPsk/ToWg9gE2gPI/AAAAAAAAAZw/LKKf6syb-vQ/s1600/EdnaCintronWavingWoman.jpg

                      http://www.hoaxofthecentury.com/911NapalmHell1_files/STgone.jpg

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Shame, hippy brought gloves to a fencing match.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      The Hippie Dog bow-wowser has utterly failed. The lifeless lump of deflated rubber that was once the bouncing smiling face of a rock star lies in the corner, along with the failed narrative that not only failed but managed to HIGHLIGHT the atrocity of the nuclear cartel, the government collusions, the international mafia of the power players. Thats right, everytime he tried to quash the truth, more people became convinced of it. quintuple Bow wow wowsers! [cue the sound of a deflating rubber doll)

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      "Shame, hippy brought gloves to a fencing match." I read the damn NIST report

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Hippie what do you not understand..no steel beamed building has ever collapsed at free fall speed at any point in time in history from a fire.

                      Unless there is a Wizard involved..under no circumstance should 3 buildings have collapse in all in 1 day.

                      Logic states Spock is correct!

                      We must have a Wizard on the loose..

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Sorry about that obewan.

                      But this is a battle between Gods, isn't it?

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Not saying the twin towers or something like grenfell wasn't/isn't bullshit, but, hey, I can multitask.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      No Gods..only evil men…making money.

                    • SadieDog

                      Umm, during construction… Fail.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Your link proves nothing..free fall speed.. is the kicker. 🙂

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      'Not as strong as you claim.' A battle between what gods? The gamer god of numskullery vs the god of a zillion gods, aka godzilla? You lose! sucks doesnt it? Your sited building failures were construction incidents largely related to lateral stability during the building phase.

                      How is that relevant to the WTC and why then did you post it Frank?

                      forget building seven…what an insult to intelligence…forget free fall speed, forget that the buildings were designed for plane impact, forget that only 15% of the structure was damaged and that the 'cage' was designed to redistribute loads. If you cant see from the photo ALONE, then you are blind…and to tell the truth, hardly then worth talking to!
                      spontaneously exploding to powder before it hits the ground? Get a grip
                      http://drjudywood.com/articles/BBE/BBEpics/bubbler.jpg

                      Strong 'spine' 47 collumns, only three or so which may have been damaged. The image; I take a chunk from your ribs and instead of falling over, you blow up into powder and fall straight down. Get a grip
                      http://drjudywood.com/articles/why/whypics/07_core_1.jpg

                      Drop a brick…watch it explode, call it normal! Get a grip
                      http://www.nyc-architecture.com/GON/GON001_FIRSTFALL5.JPG

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      If they don't see it..then they can't see it.. and that would make most humans bat~shit crazy and/or a give them a very good reason to get loaded and/or to get drugged out of their god damn minds.

                      The entire world is now a stage… 🙁

                      Thus the Earth was lost.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      NO!! I gave you more than enough benefit of the doubt. YOU ARE NUGATORY! Not a god, not a great gamer, not a wizard of greatness wasting in lazy contemptable alcoholic self destruction. NUGATORY. NU-GA-TORY! Join HDog and the others dude, you failed

                      "Not saying the twin towers or something like grenfell wasn't/isn't bullshit, but, hey, I can multitask."

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      No turning back to the west.

                    • Really this proves something to you?

                      SadieDog
                      JUNE 20, 2017 AT 4:41 PM
                      2:30 of WTC Building 7. What's next HD?
                      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWorDrTC0Qg

                      OK the aliens did it? the government did it? Wild dogs from the desert were magically transported by cern to building 7 and chewed on it till it fell?

                      How the ridiculous mess continues…

                      So the street there is not the bottom level it wasn't even the original ground level…

                      There are parking structures many storage rooms gas, power, steam, sewer and train line tunnels there well below ground level…

                      …that whole complex has more than a hundred feet deep underground that's 10 stories in case you don't know that fact either.

                      When the twin towers fell it created a earthquake vibration in that area upwards of a 8 on the scale…

                      …there were fires, gas explosions, steam explosions, electrically induced explosions and too many other violent things happened there for me to waist my time on (read the reports
                      not the stories).

                      And you wonder why a building that was hit by concrete and steel and shook like a Japanese earthquake untill the basements structures failed and then it fell?

                      I've seen numerous official and independent reports as I wanted to know what really happened (lost some friends in that mess).

                      Your bullshit knows no bounds..

                      Not to psychiatrists: You can make a fortune here if you can get these crazies into the office (just a thought).

                    • SadieDog

                      HD, You're so far away I can barely see you. And I don't believe you believe everything you say. You are however 100% wrong. The entire facade of building 7 could have been destroyed and it would have/should have stood. The thing is wasn't. Small fires on a few floors, and it was not struck by a plane. And by your logic, all the older buildings around WTC should have fallen due to shaking. Freefall, modern steel structure, collapsed in less than 8 seconds into its own footprint, 2000 architects and engineers say so. You're dishonest and either have an ego the size of the grand canyon as not to see this or you're an agent. Agent Asshole.

                    • Obe asks:

                      "Hippie what do you not understand..no steel beamed building has ever collapsed at free fall speed at any point in time in history from a fire"

                      Anyone considered the elevator shafts were in the center of the building?

                      Anyone considered that the steel beams were unprotected with concrete (like most all other blds of this type to conserve weight?

                      Ever considered that at the time of it's building it was one of the tallest (in fact the tallest of it's type in the world and had to be constructed in a very lightweight fashion?

                      Ever considered that at no time in history has 2 count em 2 fully fueled passenger plane were deliberately flown through the upper portion of one of the worlds tallest buildings?

                      Ever considered that the force of these plains knocked off major portions if the fire retardant on the steel supports?

                      Ever considered the building were designd many years before this happened and were by no means new in any respect?

                      Ever considered that at the time of the design the biggest airplane in the world was a 707 and that was the standard for a single plane strike (not 2 side by side)?

                      The truth rules… the planes flew into the buildings well below the roof level, thousands of gallons of jet grade kerosene melted the support system and MANY floors of steel, glass and concrete above the impacts fell and smashed them like stepping on a empty beer can?

                      Hummmmmm….

                    • Yea I notice none of that factual info was included in the fairy tale, it would mess up the fabulous attention getting ending to the fake story huh…

                    • Oh yea and all the pure bullshit about the umbrella style fall really make me want to say…

                      Yey dumasses ever heard of implosion? That how a building falls when charges are used.

                      The building falls in on itself not outward in a umbrella of ground up concrete.

                      Building are dropped all the time without a single piece of concrete on the sidewalk…

                    • Well sadie it's easy to see you have no idea what I just typed, and I'm not the least surprised by your competently off base explanation…

                      Small fires had nothing to do with building 7's collaps it was damage to the below ground structures ftom shaking and mulitple very hot fires and collapse problems in that area underground that caused the building 7 collapse. It didn't fall straight down it fell over, now what direction did it fall?

                      That's as simple as I can put it, damn near in in see spot run terms…

                      Go get some professional mental help sadie!

                      You really need it…

                      The problem with treating insanity and mental illness in general is the patient rarely knows they have a problem…

                      sigmund freud

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HDog clearly did NOT read the NIST report which does not support any of his weak theories. And thats the mainstream official report! Fires not hot enough to melt steel, core columns not damaged…but what difference does it make? Even if some beams DID melt, it would not cause the building to explode into powder. What if it happened to your house, or even a dog house….a little fire, then 45 minutes later BOOM, nothing but powder spraying up in fountains. Perfectly normal they would say. Happens all the time…bridges, monuments, steel sculpture, skyscrapers…you just never know when they will explode into powder!

                      HDog is a fool, a tool or a troll. What other options did I miss?

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Hippie I have researched 9-11 extensively and all the way back to the port authority and the asbestos removal in the towers.. forward to all the money made.

                      9-11 had to be an inside job..period. 🙁

                      8 trillion dollars later you somehow are trying to convince me that it was not an inside job..and that 8 trillion dollars is not real money and buildings are dropping at free fall speed all over the lace from fire. They aren't and they never ever have.

                      Your planet is controlled by a bunch of very greedy evil men and several presidents warned us all (the public) about the current problem now at hand.

                      But one has to go way back in time to get a grasp of the true folly..of the control of the mind empire created and why the Earth will be lost.

                      One might be thinking insanity is somehow a new trait for humans/humanity.

                      It is not..it is a very old ancient trait.

                    • Codeshutdown strikes again…

                      Dode oops code says (keyboard probs):

                      "And that's the mainstream official report!"

                      Oh so we should ignore the thousands of people that did rescue, the thousands of onsite witnesses, the thousands of legitimate investigators and engineers that filed reports, ALL the thousands of reports that were vetted true under oath and all the science/physics laws that have been confirmed throughout recorded human history?

                      Really??

                      Wowsers to the X10000000000000000000000

                      So we should listen to a stranger posting a anonymous message under a handle (10 = 4 good buddy) and that's how we get to the actual truth?

                      Your crazy stories have failed on so many levels I can't even start to waste my time explaining it to you sudo researchers…

                      The aliens have landed! take cover now and whatever you do don't use your computer, that's how they transport you to another time and place?

                      Pure fantastical, fantastic, totally FALSE BULLSHIT posted by those that have no real clue or have a real agenda to promote falsehoods!!!!!!!

                      PS: keyboard sticking all day and I wanted to get the REAL truth out there ASAP and I expect sane people know what I meant, typing errors aside.

                      Quintuple wowsers…

                    • Damn obewan..

                      I know you filter your water RO…

                      I know you filter the food you eat by it'd tox value right?

                      But do you filter the knowledge and/or falsehoods coming into your brain from our new media?

                      As important (maybe more important) as the other two! If you get your brain working good through pure food and water ti works better but if ya than fill it with lies (knowing it or not) ya missed the biggest part of the tuneup…

                      Without proper fire the greatest engine in the world just won't run correctly…

                      All these parts must run correctly to get optimal horsepower and torque…

                      Be very careful who you listen too brother…

                      The simple spark plug is the most important part on a real cruiser and that's the program you need to watch…

                      Totally free advise and ya know what they say about free anything, the person that receives something for free just won't really value it to be important or pay attention to it…

                      Joust on obe….

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Hippie I am not sure you really understand..I listen to nobody…my mind has been freed long ago.

                      Remember..you do not need believe anything.

                      There is a country mentioned here..subtle.. but mentioned.
                      http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fentanyl-crisis-smugglers-are-catapulting-drugs-u-s-lawmaker-n736461

                      Spread the good news!

                      Perception is 99% of sanity..

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Should we listen to this guy?

                      He is off by hundreds of years..we have only 100 years max.

                      Feed back loops have already started..

                      Humans must find a new home in space in the next 200 to 500 years if we are to survive, Professor Stephen Hawking has warned.
                      The physicist repeated his warning that the human race is doomed at the Starmus Festival celebrating science and the arts, which is being held in Trondheim, Norway.
                      He also slammed US President Donald Trump, saying 'I am not denying the importance of fighting climate change and global warming, unlike Donald Trump, who may just have taken the most serious, and wrong, decision on climate change this world has seen,' he said.

                      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4623610/Stephen-Hawking-warns-200-years-escape-Earth.html#ixzz4kbAao5wh
                      Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      This created nut house is taking its toll..why we have so many pill poppers!

                      To bad we can't pop dollar bills and pieces of silver to make all this created anxiety go away.

                      At least we have good profitable for a few supply lines already in place.. 🙂

                      Do you have anxiety?
                      Have you tried just about everything to get over it, but it just keeps coming back?
                      Perhaps you thought you had got over it, only for the symptoms to return with a vengeance?

                      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4622954/The-secret-beating-anxiety.html#ixzz4kbBqbohM
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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Code strikes again? You bet HDog. If you want to make posts that are more than vacuous condescension, you need to read up. There is a short version of the NIST report. Read it.

                      There are hundreds…almost three thousand professionals here
                      http://www.ae911truth.org/

                      Do you really think ANY reader is going to choose you over them in a debate? Sorry Charlie, fools should choose wisely which group of experts they will stand behind.

                      And then there is the nagging question; have you seen or can you even imagine a bridge, a house, a tower etc spontaneously blowing up into fountains of powder? No, you cant.

                      You need to read up. But I dont think you are at all interested in that because all signs point to you being a troll with a mission. It is clear

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      'This created nut house is taking its toll' So it is Obewan. The three pound ape-man brain is a big disappointment. A baby carriage could explode into powder and they would call it normal collapse. They vote, they cheer, they go with the trend, even the scientists cant see big errors and are limited by the narrow confines of their indoctrinated biased emotion laden beliefs. Everything is a cult…the money making cult, the medical cult the drug cult the political cult, the left vs right cults. Thus I was pissed off at the lot of them. The species as a whole, with a few notable exceptions

                    • Obe…

                      "Do you have anxiety?"

                      Yep every time I read the far fetched crap posted on this site…

                      "Should we listen to this guy?"

                      Nope….

                      "Remember..you do not need believe anything."

                      I know water is wet, the sky is blue and GOD is real, no belief nessassery…

                      All the rest we can figure out later, ya know, after the TRUE facts are in…

                    • Really code? Total crap again?

                      What do you claim a antelope's brain weighs…

                      "The three pound ape-man brain is a big disappointment"

                      Wow your brain weighs 3 pounds, one can only wonder what that ass weighs…

                    • And how much does a mosquito's brain weight yet it can coincidentally find it's way to your house and bite ya, dodge many attempts for you to swat it in the air (as a aviator) and go home to feed it's eggs.

                      How many pounds does that take….

                    • So if you have a 3 pound brain and a mosquito can outperform you, it must be the software not the hardware that counts huh…

                      Fiction that with junk talk to not be the actual truth code…

                    • Hey Hippie Dog, you can't fight like Mike Tyson by biting your own ear…

                    • Wowsers X 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000

                      Did I not tell you I've read the reports? Yepper…

                      And you have a 3 pound brain? Really? Does it work???

                      Code says:

                      "you need to read up. There is a short version of the NIST report"

                      That mosquito with no real brain weight smarter than you?

                      I just could say, but I wont…

                    • Yes sir, lemon koolaid sir!

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      The WTC demolition event was an astounding eye opener. I remember watching TV, it was morning…the smoking buildings, talk of an attack…then something began to ramp up and I saw what looked like a ten story section of the tower tipping over. Smoke and dust began billowing…then the amazing thing, the detached part straightened out and…just starting coming apart in mid air…as if there was nothing holding it together. In fact that was the case for the whole building…as if all the structure was just disintegrated…blowing apart. Before the building hit the ground (the point at which most falling objects fall apart), I heard myself say "wow, they blew up their own building" It was SO obvious. So I assembled some info and talked to a few friends and family…and had my first experience of being a 'conspiracy theorist'. Instead of THINKING about it, they would get angry, use condescending language, refuse to look at it, read anything or listen. My entire relationships changed forever at that point.

                      The NIST report…it was strange because it was the most amateur sort of technical report. They managed to find a few pieces of metal and make a few tests…most of the metal had already been whisked off, instead of held for evidence and forensics. And what they found didnt fit their conclusions at all. It was very strange…the metal was not hot…I forget, maybe 600 deg maximum. Majority of structure not damaged, notably the core columns. ….

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      WTC…so Im looking forward to the nitty gritty findings, how did it collapse, from a structural analysis…and foooosh….nothing. Essentially they said, we made some tests, nothing got very hot, not much was broken and then the building fell down, end of story. If you read the NIST document then you KNOW that people like HDog havent read it.

                      The feeling was like suddenly finding yourself in East Berlin under the stasi where you had to be careful what you said, even to friends and family.

                      I realized that belief was more often than not based on an emotional gestalt, rather than observation and reason

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Exactly! 🙂

                      The day I became enlightened and so many others out here are still struggling desperately..with finding the truth and that very bright light.

                      The game is sadly rigged.. 🙁

                      BACK TO THE FUTURE predicts 9/11
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY&feature=youtu.be

                    • So what say we help others to become enlightened too obewan…

                      …I'm game.

                      We are here to create and do something everyday…

                      …the real question is are we really workin to create something good.

                      What say you?

                    • Time to quit? Or time to continue…

                      https://youtu.be/wnJYXydsLag?t=10m28s

                      Just can't tell…. eh???

                    • OK Code what say we spend 20 or 30 million that we could actually spend on our children and a cleanup effort to satisfy your cat like curiosity or is it really because you saw a video on it and thought it was real…

                      …and now ya just gotta know even though the total proven vetted documents are available 24-7 365 via a simple internet site…

                      Yea that's a real important project, I'm sure someone will get right on that one for ya, right away…

                      BTW anybody got any money code can borrow to find out?

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      sorry HDog, I cant figure out what you are talking about. Please point people who want to know what happened to the world trade center here;

                      http://www.ae911truth.org/gallery/evidence.html

                      but if such people are so out of touch that they cant see from this photo that fountains of powder is not a natural thing for buildings to turn into then they may not be able to understand anything no matter the evidence
                      http://drjudywood.com/articles/BBE/BBEpics/bubbler.jpg

                    • BACK TO THE FUTURE predicts 9/11???

                      Great Scott!

                      https://youtu.be/5gVv10J4nio?t=13s

                      Double quintessence wowsers 🙂

                    • Oh look they released all the evidence in a video your brain can chew on like a potato (chip)…

                      https://youtu.be/NcpBqlBsR6c?t=6s

      • Here is another proof of the event at the point of contact, if you examine the damage to the ACX there is a rip in the bow that is clean on the damage side and ripped out on the opposite side, this damage is from the anchor chain being pulled across the bow of the ship and pulling through the hull steel, if you see the photo shot from the rear flank of the damage side of the ACX you can see the source of this rip lines up with the chain guide. On the Fitzgerald damage photos there is a damage path consistent with that anchor being lodged into and ripping a path to the rear of the ship starting at the (3) painted on the Fitz. This bow ripping and damage on the Fitz show that the USS Fitzgerald was moving ACROSS the path of the ACX Chrystal, and at a much greater speed. This plus all the other signs of the actual contact dynamics call into question any claim that the ACX collided with the destroyer.

    • "Any military member involved who declines to sign the NDA risks being charged with refusing to obey a lawful order, and will again face Court Martial and prison "for decades."

      Whatever took place in this incident is clearly so serious or sensitive, the Pentagon is going all-out to conceal the details.

      The persons with whom I spoke say they know exactly what took place and "there is ample reason for the Pentagon to be freaking-out about it."

      When I asked to be told what took place, these persons declined to reveal it to me . . . . "at least for now."

      • The really important part that you left out of that one one is…

        "Any military member involved who declines to sign the NDA risks being charged with refusing to obey a lawful order, and will again face Court Martial and prison "for decades."

        OK so if you don't want to sign the security aggreement you won't REPEAT WILL NOT be imprisoned before given the security clearance…

        You will simply be reassigned to another job that doesn't require you to sign that document…

        ALL military service is voluntary these days, we don't have a draft and no one is twisting your arm to sign anything!!!

        Once you make the decision to sign and get the clearance you will be privy to that level of information and noone will erase your mind…

        …but you now know things and are obligated to keep your word.

        To have that clearance you are expected to live up to your word and your signed contract.

        So the moral of this story is if you agree to something and give your word (in writing or not) you must live up to it!!! No real rocket science there….

        Oh yea and when someone leaves details like that (VERY IMPORTANT DETAILS) out of a story, then you get what we have going on in america today…

        ….a bunch of folks that can't tell fact from fiction…

      • Wow another one I had to shed some light on?

        "Whatever took place in this incident is clearly so serious or sensitive, the Pentagon is going all-out to conceal the details."

        Well how long has it been since the collision?

        I wonder why jury's are sequestered….

        So the true facts can't be slanted by rumors and we can find the actual facts instead of a bunch of opinions or disinformation?

        You bet ya…

        • SadieDog

          Shed light on? Lol. You couldn't find your ass with a flashlight and a map.

        • Just suppose i have hit the nail squarely on the head, I am sure the party most targeted by such a operation might be well aware of this very probability and are logging as much info as is accessible. These recent postings are not to blow the whistle or otherwise inform a sleeping public… they do as they are told anyhow… no it was to see the reaction, who said what and why.
          I doubt any of my claims are new to Russian or Chinese strategy thinkers, but my posting this is going to have an effect, as it did on Hippie here. This whole event is a stinking turd and everyone knows it, protests of that are just as stinky.

      • Thanks Hippy Dog, You are helping in ways you will never know. Good Job.

        • Ya, just what was that container ship doing again?

          I think there is a growing concern over containers…

        • I find it very funny the claims i have seen that a container ship, at best 18 knots could in ANY way manage contact with a destroyer that can do well over 35 knots and is bristling with radar gear and plain old mark one eyeballs. You have to be a special sort of moron tho think anyone will buy such a story. Nobody could have managed ordering the crew to steer a course that would have seen the Fitz munched like a Pac-Man treat, so we are left with the computer controls ultimatly in control of the USS Fitzgerald. A fly by wire ship.

          • The fitz is the latest completely crazy false news story?

            So we had a collision in a very busy shipping lane in the middle of the night but the loonies are at it again…

            Hard to believe?

            So this latest psychotic rant is that the destroyer was remotely activated by some boogie man in the government and intentionally rammed into the freighter?

            Really? Are you off your meds??

            So far just in the last 2 days we've heard that the Boston marathon bombing was fake, sandy hook never really happened, the batman movie premiere shootings were faked, the twin towers were rigged and now the all time greatest kicker…

            A US Destroyer was guided by remote control into a freighter…

            It's time to end these forums as it seems this one is teeming with nutcases that seem to have nothing better to do than to camp out at ENE and spread the most pathetic fairy tail FAKE NEWS they can come up with…

            I find it hard to believe so many weirdos would somehow find a energy site dedicated to stopping nuclear power and completely destroy it's credibility for no apparent reason…

            It's a shame when you give people a place to converse for free and the 2 percent (completely crazy people) in the world descend on it with nothing better to do than post lies 24-7 and run the sane away. The crazies have to ruin it with tall tales, conspiracy theory's and slanderous remarks about our government and military. That is what crazies do, ruin everything they get involved with.

            • SadieDog

              "It's time to end these forums as it seems this one is teeming with nutcases that seem to have nothing better to do than to camp out at ENE and spread the most pathetic fairy tail FAKE NEWS they can come up with…"

              You brought it up. End these forums? Who do you work for? I've got a better solution, why don't you fuck off? You're not interested in looking into any of the 'fake' stories. Just a name calling, fascist, control freak. Didn't you get enough of looking stupid last night?

              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                Hippie: "It's time to end these forums"

                What, and miss all your lectures about how stupid we all are, how we need to pop children in the mouth when they speak out of turn to keep them out of jail, tap our friends in the gonads to straighten them out, ignore brown recluse bites, watch RO systems magically turn 3/1 ratios into 40/1, demand test results from pro-nukes because the law says so and feed the wild animals under our homes?

                Er nah.

                How's that book about all the online BS/ENE coming?

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  the only reason HDog is going to leave is if he was suspended for not working out. It seems like a conspicuous narrative; rock star hero, retired, hippie (they think all environmental kooks are aging hippies) immediately lamblasts good people, promotes mainstream mouthpieces..Woods Hole etc, continually decries the idiocy and lunacy of the crew and their fake made up news. Either that or he is genuinely balmy, in which case I would feel a little bad about the whole thing

            • HHD – you sure are a curious one.

              But calling "to end these forums", i.e. take down ENENEWS completely. REALLY?

              First, you are still stuck in the Matrix, even though you think you have broken free. If you can accept the Trillion dollar Pacific ocean killing triple meltdown was effectively covered up by the combined collusion of governments and the super rich of the military industrial cartels, but you can't accept that a gun grabbing government wouldn't take a school drill and someone came up with "let's take it live, like it was a real event", then you are a in a funk.

              If you spend just 2 to 3 hours, the information is on the net that can clearly convince you that Sandy Hook was a drill taken live. I watched it in real time, and immediately knew that something was amiss, although I didn't for sure know it was all fake, until reviewing all the video and the post "shooting" interviews.

              911 — Code's famous "powderized up shooting collapse" photo should be all you need. But add the "lease issue" so the building could be insured and thus collected on, MY discovery of the USGS debris test samples showing 100 to 200 times the background level of radio-isotopes (which would be present in a nuclear explosion

              On the Destroyer, sure the idea that the Destroyer was remove guided into the container vessel is extreme. Much more likely a Muslim extremist from the Philipines which the container vessel was from, took control and rammed the…

              • q Farthington MacMananus

                See stock, you also make mistakes, HD, not HHD.

                Show me the accounts of the recorded murders in sandy hook, according to the FBI?

              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                Stock: "HHD"?

                Please correct.

                Actually, I wish ya'll would start callin Hippie Dog "Hippie" or something else besides "HD"… Wishful thinking?

                • My bad, maybe best everyone stick with hippie, done! Well done to the extent that I shouldnt even comment since I am boycotting the site, LOL

                • SadieDog

                  How bout asshole?

                  • earthsmith earthsmith

                    They remote guided the planes into the towers as well. No way rookie fanatics could properly plot then navigate those birds at those speeds and altitudes. Would have been a heroic feat for even the most seasoned fighter jet pilot. No way! Impossible! The government never used the public as unwitting test subjects…..ged outta hear… ya heard… no way!
                    1% of 8 billion… that's a lotta people. They got peeps. Peeps love that smelly paper drug. You want me to do what for what. Hells yeah killing two birds with one stone! On board for life! Oh yeah by the way it's all about the children! Save the children! F$&@ing Idiots!

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Correct! 🙂 Got a drone?

                      "They remote guided the planes into the towers as well."

                    • earth I disagree, I am a private pilot with only around 100 hours in the pilots seat, and I feel the task would be simplistic, even with no additional training.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      You can disagree all you want to..he is correct.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Let's mention the pentagon. Check the damage profile.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Hani Hanjour and Flight 77's Unexplained Expert Maneuvers
                      http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_14.htm

                    • SadieDog

                      Simplistic? Lol. Holy ego, batman.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Hat tip, bro.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      better check with airline pilots
                      http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

                      there is A LOT more at stake than guiding an airliner into a building on a private pilots license. How did they get past the airforce, the FAA, could they really navigate a big plane like that…different systems are different systems. Is there remote guidance on airliners? seems like there would be. It goes on…the pentagon flight (see pilots for 911 truth), the other plane then went down into a hole of nothing with no forensics. The whole thing was such a public relations botch job but the people BOUGHT IT ANYWAY!! The immediately new it was Bin Laden and so the first thing is to whisk the entire Bin Laden family back home in spite of the no fly rule. The crazy story just keeps going, and going, and going.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Funny about those Saudis linked to Al-Qaeda, Saudi Aramco, big oil, Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Rumsfeld being allowed to leave the day before that?

                      Funny about those Trump, Giulliani (?), mentions back then. Contrast it with what Trump is saying these days…

                      Funny, ha ha? Funny weird.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Funny that the CFR site, with an informant kinda saying it straight tried to tell people straight…

                      Of course, you can't access that page now.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Trump,- Giuliani. Two criminals in arms.

                      Corbett blows it on Fukushima,,go figure…but he does a fair job on Giuliani

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl85JSvDmsA

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Is this real world or exercise.. and even will I am is still looking for bin Ladin's body..chuckles! 🙂

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Is this real-world or exercise?
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAGygtafhlI

                    • Down The River Down The River

                      Hey Code

                      I saw a video a few years back, in that video one of the planes that hit the towers had no windows (except the cockpit).

                      The vid might still be around.

                      As for Trump and Giuliani . . . Our whole country is run by criminals. Me thinks it has been for quite some time.

                      From the get-go ?

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Hi Down The River. Its true, our whole country is run by criminals. Psychopaths rise to the top of politics. This is even true in other species of the animal kingdom. They need to adhere to the test; Ask them a question, any question. If they speak, you know they are lying. IF they stay quite, they are hiding something. The rest of them might be worthy of hiring.

                    • Down The River Down The River

                      Not so sure about other species in the animal kingdom having psychopaths (or sociopaths). I don’t even think it is innate in the human species.

                      I see it as a cultural problem.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      psychopathy is not innate to humans or any animal but is a cultural problem? I wonder…is culture innate to humans? I mean, there must be REASONS WHY people are the way they are, and why societies are the way they are. Its not too difficult to trace, at least superficially. But I would add that ill health, or brain damage can be a contributing factor.

                      What Is a Psychopath?
                      Some characteristics

                      Violence
                      Inability to plan for the future
                      Selfishness
                      Narrowing of attention
                      Overconfidence
                      Insincere speech
                      Irresponsibility
                      Shallow emotions
                      Uncaring
                      reduced ability to smell

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Only the biggest and fiercest males get to sire offspring. So natural selection has gradually made the alpha males extremely aggressive and given them tools to scare other males.

                      "The bigger the male, the better the fighter, and the better the fighter, the better the lover," Le Boeuf said. "You don't get to be a good lover (or a father) unless you're a good fighter."

                      "They will try to mate anything–dead or pregnant females, other males, even children," he said. "They're so indiscriminate it's amazing.

                      "Our most famous male was Adrian. We estimate he inseminated over 250 different females in his lifetime."

                      Because a dominant male ruthlessly fights and sometimes kills weaker males intruding on his harem, 30% to 80% of the males never mate.

                      "its like a sleazy singles bar where the female starts the fight, all the males fight, and she goes off with the winner."

                      Sexual aggressiveness can lead to female injury and death

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Women pick money and brains over brawn all the time. And they can be taught to avoid psychopaths and sociopaths and should be so taught in the book Political Ponerology by Lobaczewski.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      “…The question I’m most frequently asked regarding psychopaths is whether they are born or made. The answer is “Yes.” They are both born and made.

                      “Lots of research tells us there’s a genetic predisposition to antisocial behavior, i.e., behavior that goes against society, that defies the rules, breaks the law. This predisposition doesn’t usually come to fruition, however, unless the person grows up in a very unhealthy environment. Full-blown psychopaths almost always come from abusive backgrounds, with harsh and often inconsistent parenting….”
                      http://misteriopress.com/2015/01/are-psychopaths-born-or-made/

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      President Donald Trump has said he will pursue legislation that would bar immigrants from being eligible for welfare for at least five years.

                      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4628330/Trump-ban-migrants-welfare-five-years.html#ixzz4kk0TvlRO
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                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      The world's population will grow by a billion people in the next 13 years and will be almost 10billion by the time we reach 2050, the United Nations predicts.
                      The current population of 7.6billion is expected to balloon in the coming decade, driven largely by high birth rates in Africa, according to a new UN report.
                      India will surpass China as the most crowded inside the next seven years, while Nigeria will overtake the United States and become the world's third most populous country shortly before 2050, research suggests.

                      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4626334/UN-says-world-population-reach-9-8-billion-2050.html#ixzz4kk2Z3vzI
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                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Global Population Falling as Human Fertility Declines
                      Published on July 11, 2016
                      http://principia-scientific.org/global-population-falling-as-human-fertility-declines/

                      https://www.google.com/search?q=world+population+is+declining&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

                      The atomic age has already destroyed any possible reason for continuing with nuclear energy or use of DU or use of any other nuclear weapon. That and the EMF pollution age and other toxicities.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      'Women pick money and brains over brawn all the time. And they can be taught to avoid psychopaths and sociopaths and should be so taught'

                      approximately how long does it take to teach women to choose men with money and brains? If the man has more money than brains, can she be taught to make a weighted decision? Are their classes or can it be achieved with plastic surgery?
                      https://www.google.com/search?q=first+lady+Trump&rlz=1C1ASUM_enUS700US701&oq=first+lady++Trump&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.13001j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=ladies+getting+plastic+surgery+to+look+like+melania+trump

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      dont you hate it when your comedy piece is ruined by stupid typos and spelling airs?

                • danger kitty danger kitty

                  Hi, my dear Hillbilly. Is hd a hippie? Or a custom styled persona for easily distracted children?
                  He's sure been like a backed up cat hacking up a furball the last few days. Arguing spiders, no less.
                  And then trying to swallow death physics of WTC fractal fantasy. Big furball, that. Looked kinda cathartic. I know I felt better after…
                  I like when they self reveal.

                  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                    IDK. The verbal abuse gets old, though.

                    That's the internet for ya.

                    I will admit, once I start looking for facts, it's hard not to identify the misinformation and even harder to let it go. Reminds me of attorneys… They bury their heads in law all day, go home and call the jury for mistakes in grammar at the dinner table. I call that "lawyer brain". Maybe I have Observational Defiance Disorder… Or "sniffer brain"…

                    Worked with teens for twenty+ years, though. Watching them start going for the laughs on their phones without the conscience obtained from even facial reactions of the target… and missing so many necessary components of healthy development… Social media is not social at all.

                    And thus…

              • Destroyer. Admittedly in the past, there has been at least one Destroyer accident hitting an oil vessel. But in the extreme heightened alert epoch of US Vessels specifically there to intercept nukes from North Korea (and too blow the shit out of North Korea if they do attempt anything)…during this time, I find it incredulous that any Destroyer would let any ship come to any path and distance that would allow the other ship to harm the Fitz.

                I have spoke with boat radar operators who tell me one of their prime directives is to watch all nearby objects and make sure none present a threat.

                So it is curious, for sure. But we know that our government stages false flags in order to soften public opinion about "yet another war not authorized by Congress". So just like 911, our intelligence may have heard of the plot, and allowed it to happen, to justify an upcoming war.

                Curious enough, also, Congress would not be needed to resume the war with North Korea (maybe), since the 1953 armistice was signed by North Korea, China, South Korea, and an American General (but under auspices of the UN).

                Combined with the Brain Dead US Male that was returned from North Korea just days ago, to not have your tin foil shined, and ears perked up would be just plain ignorant.

            • danger kitty danger kitty

              So, dog of copious furballs, was that a goodbye? A tad hysterical, seemed kinda wordy, but yeah, excellent exit script.
              Don't​ back track, it never works out.

            • So lets see, First we get "psychotic rant" then we get "Are you off your meds??" further we see "this one is teeming with nutcases" oh and don't miss "weirdos" and then "completely crazy people" all preceded by this gem "tall tales, conspiracy theory's and slanderous remarks"

              Who is slanderous here Hippie Dog?

              Who uses this forum to do slander the most?

              Me, i see Off-Topic Discussion Thread (Non-Nuclear Issues) way at the top of this forum, This seems to be just that, you seem to think differently.

              Your commentary is just like a highlighter pen, highlighting the places to look further into just because your bleating shows a point someone wants to discredit. Again Thanks!

          • So how is it so hard to entertain the possibility that a modern, highly computerized warship might have a backdoor control system? Do you really think that a ship that can haul nuclear weapons around is just going to be left at the whim of any one human outside of the top levels of power? Me i would think that it would be a stretch to claim there was not a secret control override system on such a boat. But you have a job to do Eh Hippie Dog?. Cant let any topic like this go without ridicule. Have to keep up appearances for the boss.

          • I am far from hiding Mr anonymous Hippie Dog, Alan Reid thinks that the upper parts of the defense department decided to use the lives of almost 300 sailors and sink a destroyer in an attempt to start a war. It's not like we don't have plenty of reason to assume,seeing as we have so much evidence to see in the record of just such examples of wanton disregard for life to look at. So Mr Anon You keep up your bleating, You look as you do for all the bluster, us real persons, with real names and faces will continue to call em as we see em.

          • I have also noticed that you have not offered any explanation on how a 29000 ton 8 cylinder diesel can manage an attack on a 8500 ton twin turbine powered warship, I have an explanation for the event, where is yours? You seem to be claiming some prowess in divining the truth of this event lets see your powers then.

          • Sorry my bad..

            4 × General Electric LM2500 gas turbines each generating 26,250 bhp (19,570 kW);[4]
            coupled to two shafts, each driving a five-bladed reversible controllable-pitch propeller;
            Total output: 105,000 bhp (78,000 kW)

            Any hoo Way more power than the ACX and WAY less mass to move.

            So tell us a realistic tale of this event mr Hippie Dog, Tell us all how you think the ACX tricked a whole crew of military men into proving a target for this near fully loaded container ship at 39,265 bhp?

            Were they using the FORCE?

            Perhaps a tractor beam?

          • See what others are capable of finding out when they just look for it Hippy Dog?

            So remotely controlled war machines is not so loony is it Hippie Dog?

            Dozens of well trained men on the Fitz would not allow this sort of event to befall their ship, would allow their ship to do something that would result in the loss of that ship, this said what sort of other force could compel suicidal actions and make this event happen?

            Once you know the Fitz, in fact all large warships are Fly-By-Wire systems, you can and will have to ask in the face of the realities of this sort of event WHY, and more importantly HOW such a task can be accomplished.

            In the first hours after first reports of this event went out, i was asking all the important questions, four day in i came to ENE with my claims.

      • A cat must have the Dog's tongue i guess. Ok, i can wait.

      • Another angle to keep in mind about this accident is the plots of the ACX's course might be a complete forgery. There is nothing to say that these posted records show any real data. A government wanting to cover up an accident can do a considerable amount of arm twisting to get out the messages they want put out. Knowing this i will not offer any course related sorts of speculation on said data.

        The damage is telling us what happened at impact, that info is telling us the Fitz was moving faster than the ACX and that the Fitz was approaching the ACX from behind or beside if you want.. and across the path of travel of the ACX, Scratches and paint transfers onto the ACX prove this.

        My guess is the Fitz is moving at 25-28 Kts and the ACX is at 15 Kts.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Goodbye DK, I remember fucking you up with a difference of about 40-50 something, in the bad place. I remember you introducing me to warcraft. I remember joining viper (world class) in a competition a few weeks after that because noone else bothered to join him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBXWBj7hIzg

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Unfortunately, I cannot incorporate, I'm not that "strong". Give me a reason? My own being is not worth it, regardless of what that means.

  • Emergency Management of Radiation Victims Workshop

    July 31 @ 8:00 am – 5:00 pm

    Free

    http://www.nwhrn.org/event/emergency-management-of-radiation-victims-workshop/

  • razzz razzz

    'Another radiation exposure accident'

    "…The powdery substances had been encased in a double-wrapped plastic bag placed inside the container, whose lid was fastened with six bolts. When one of the workers opened the lid, the black powder sprayed out under pressure, exposing the men to radiation…

    …The container at the Oarai facility had not been opened for 26 years. Plutonium emits alpha particles, which are helium nuclei, and it decays or transforms into a different type of radioactive substance. It is suspected that the extended storage caused helium, which was formed as a result of the plutonium’s alpha decay, to fill the container and pressurize the contents…

    …In the room where the radiation exposure accident occurred, 55 becquerels of radioactive substances were detected — roughly 14 times the allowed limit of 4 becquerels. It was also found that the five workers were kept in the room for three hours following the accident…

    …At first, the agency reported that up to an unprecedented 22,000 becquerels of plutonium was detected in the lungs of the worker who opened the container — which translates into 1.2 sieverts over a year, far above the maximum of 0.05 sievert per year allowed by the government for designated nuclear workers. But later the agency corrected the report by saying that the plutonium may have been on his skin…"
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/06/18/editorials/another-radiation-exposure-accident/#.WUiI6s0Ul8i

    • Wow here's a news flash for ya…

      1 billionth of a gram of plutonium is lethal…

      These people are walking dead folks…

      sievert shmevert makes no difference!!! That's all distractions and time filler for a press conference designed to confuse people as to the seriousness of these exposures.

      And in his lungs? On his skin? Doesn't matter, dead is dead…

      "unprecedented 22,000 becquerels of plutonium was detected in the lungs of the worker who opened the container"

      Where's the beef? Nope where's the suit is the big question and the one we should all be asking…

      • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

        https://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/2017/06/19/plutonium-found-in-urine-of-five-workers-exposed-to-radiation-via-the-japan-times/

        "A small amount of radioactive materials — plutonium and americium — was found in the urine of five workers …"

        Yet…

        "…It has not ruled out the possibility that what was actually detected was radioactive substance left on the workers’ bodies after decontamination."

        Guess they pissed themselves?

        • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

          http://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/national/2017/06/19/nuclear-near-disaster-slows-work-los-alamos/406059001/

          75 miles northeast of Tokyo in September 1999… …

          Hisashi Ouchi and Masato Shinohara, who were in the room where the criticality occurred and absorbed extremely high doses – 1,700 and 1,200 rems of radiation, respectively — appeared normal when they entered the University of Tokyo Hospital Emergency Department on the same day. But within weeks, Ouchi became unrecognizable, inside and out.

          Slowly, his skin sloughed off and his muscle tissue died. Externally, his body withered into a skeletal silhouette, covered in open sores. Inside his body, his chromosomes shattered like glass. Sequentially, his organs failed.

          By the 63rd day of his ordeal, doctors were pumping 10 liters of liquid into Ouchi to replace the fluid he was losing from surface wounds and massive intestinal bleeding. He died in December 1999, 83 days after the accident.

          Much, much MORE.

          • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

            http://www.readingeagle.com/ap/article/nuclear-lab-shutdown-endangers-us-arsenal

            …With key work at Los Alamos deferred due to safety problems, officials and experts say the United States risks falling behind on an ambitious $1 trillion update of its nuclear arsenal, which former President Barack Obama supported and President Donald Trump has said he wants to "greatly strengthen and expand."

            During the hiatus, Los Alamos has had to forego 29 planned tests of the safety and reliability of plutonium cores in warheads now deployed atop U.S. submarine-launched and land-based missiles and in bombs carried by aircraft. The facility also hasn't been able to make new plutonium cores to replace those regularly withdrawn from the nuclear arsenal for testing or to be fit into warheads, which are being modernized for those missiles and bombers at a projected cost of billions of dollars.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            'Slowly, his skin sloughed off and his muscle tissue died. Externally, his body withered into a skeletal silhouette, covered in open sores. Inside his body, his chromosomes shattered like glass. Sequentially, his organs failed….'

            Apparently, according to our local PhD, this has been happening to mankind from potassium since history started six thousand years ago. We barely survived it

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    No one trying to harmonize. The new world will rise. ONCE AND FOR ALL.

    "Something horrible is happening in my mind and I don't know why. My nightly bloodlust has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip"

    But hey, that's old news.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Anyone see that bullshit bubble popping?

    "In the last three months, it has passed GM, Ford, and now BMW to become the world’s fourth most valuable automaker on the stock market. While the world’s biggest automakers deliver 2 million to 10 million vehicles a year, Tesla delivered 76,230 vehicles last year. Yet Tesla’s current market cap is $60 billion."

    https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/249724-tesla-overtakes-bmw-toyota-daimler-vw-higher-total-market-value

    That ain't the real Tesla.

    3,6,9 let's do this. Muliplied by 47, or if you're heading the wrong way 74.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    That was interesting, some data salesman showed up and quickly left. Babylon, you just can't mess with us.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Excellent military training and livestock controls! Was the guy selling a loosey?

      A Brazilian street vendor was shot in the head at point blank range after a dispute between traders and police escalated.
      Carlos Augusto Muniz Braga, 30, was killed during the confrontation with military police who were investigating the sale of counterfeit goods in west São Paulo.
      Shocking footage, which has recently re-emerged, shows Mr Braga having an altercation with an officer arresting another shopkeeper.

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4620668/Brazilian-street-vendor-shot-dead-police.html#ixzz4kXoTqGqN
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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Bobby!
        Yes Sir?
        What did that robot say over there?
        Have no idea Sir, but that thing just pulled out a gun.
        Bobby!
        Yes Sir?
        Run like hell!
        Yes Sir!

        A new language has been accidentally created by artificial intelligence programmes created by Facebook.
        The social media firm was experimenting with teaching chatbots how to negotiate with one another when they stumbled upon the discovery.
        The bots were attempting to imitate human speech when they developed their own machine language spontaneously.
        The discovery could provide a glimpse into how machines will communicate independently of people in the future.

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  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Impressive police state whoring attempts…

    Might I suggest a target or two? Warren Buffet and I dunno, that fat fuck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richemont guy? I'll personally address the issue of some of the others.

    https://businesstech.co.za/news/wealth/104581/the-16-richest-people-in-south-africa-right-now/

    • q Farthington MacMananus

      "Nicky Oppenheimer joined the Anglo American Corporation in 1968, and was appointed a director in 1974. He became Deputy Chairman in 1983. He subsequently resigned as Deputy Chairman in 2001 but remained a non-executive director of the Anglo American board until 2011."

      Oh shit, I managed to infiltrate that corporation once :).

      Funny thing is, I also noticed their nuclear investments.

  • q Farthington MacMananus

    Oh look, I'm reading a bit of shit from the (hegelian dialectic) playbook.

    So, the similarities between CS and PT. They're both supposedly vegan, they both supposedly have intricate knowledge of nuclear damage. PT claims to have loved CS. CS supposedly hates PT. Strange that neither gets banned.

    No disrespect to either of you, as this thing is entirely unrelated.

    Then, you'd get for instance, stock, alan and HD…

    Then consider that the admin has not banned me yet.

    • q Farthington MacMananus

      Yeah, I'm the original bad man.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      did I ever say I was vegan? Loosing your edge man

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Frank, I dont have intricate knowledge of nuclear physics. I apply a wee bit of focus to the issue to understand whats going on. Anne on the other hand claims to be a PhD, but is VERY confused about the subject. I dont hate her by any means…I dont even know if she is a she or five philippino dudes in a basement. But her efforts to derail my explorations really stands out. If you cant differentiate this, and put it into a hegelian dialectic, then your acumen is nugatory. A nugatory gamer…that sucks doesnt it?

    • Byrian416

      Ha, I'm the only one that Admin chooses to ban 😉

      • 😐

        Not the only one.
        There have been at least 5 to 10 that I can recall.

        Depending on their level of psychotic nonsensical repetitive comment behavior it can take a while for them to FINALLY go away.

        "Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) features a pattern…"

        "You may try to ignore or stop your obsessions, but that only increases your distress and anxiety. Ultimately, you feel driven to perform compulsive acts to try to ease your stress. Despite efforts to ignore or get rid of bothersome thoughts or urges, they keep coming back. This leads to more ritualistic behavior — the vicious cycle of OCD."


        http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/obsessive-compulsive-disorder/home/ovc-20245947?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=abstract&utm_content=Obsessive-compulsive-disorder&utm_campaign=Knowledge-panel

        We know the more we tell 'the entities' to stop the more they'll come back. That's why ADMIN should somehow intervene.

        (IMHO) BLOCK, ban or report them to a reliable government agency. 😉

      • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

        Pretty sure Anne gets banned a lot, too. And several aliases that spouted way too much hatred and personal attacks.

        When admin (gets back), I bet Mac will get banned, too. The fact that you are still here under your umpteenth alias tells me they are on vacation or something…

        Mac will likely go due to the maligning of the site with drunken, reckless, self-proclaimed psychosis and the related terroristic threats.

        If I were ruler of this universe, I would ban it simply because it failed to get along with DUDe.

        Good script, however. E for effort…

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          the wheel was caught in a vicious cycle of rotation

          • danger kitty danger kitty

            Code, last night I threw. I caught 41, top one moves; leads to 19.
            It is what it is, until it isn't (despite force). What it is, is not too bad, could get better if it don't get worse.
            It's all in the approach. Your attack on outdated, incomplete & venally erronious concepts of health physics is impeccablely scientific.
            (for new lurkers what's don't got a program fer this here game of hide the buckyball..:)

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              danger kitty…the loss of your wife; what a lonely vacuum. "Decrease is the only way to Increase because what is full cannot be filled anew." Such a statement doesnt get to the pith of the matter. You can feel it,…no, the night sky is thunderous with the loneliness. Too big to fathom, too close for comfort, too deadly to call friend. Redemption? A reason for the suffering? Thats a little fools rational, as if we are the universe's apologists. The only perspective which fills anew what is emptied is the universal one. The individuated self is ripped and torn asunder whether we aspire to it or not…

              Kind wishes for peaceful and fulfilling days ahead…

        • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

          The conspirators took a break or had a several day meeting once, where they were absent from here… The level of communication, teamwork and potential went way up in that short time. The conspirators quickly lambasted, derailed and continued the slaughter.

          Seems they have a new tactic every so often- but it self-destructs under it's own weight soon after, requiring a new meme…

          Admin has been very generous to provide this place for members, so I hesitate to ask for moderation, but it seems in order.

          I like to think there is a useful purpose in allowing the conspirators to reveal their motives and intent, but it seems enough, already. Likely self-preservation in that line of thinking…

          Perhaps admin is just over it. A tireless job, indeed.

          Thanks admin, for all you have done- anyways. Sincerely.

          Long live ENE.

        • DUDe DUDe

          "..If I were ruler of this universe, I would ban it simply because it failed to get along with DUDe.."

          🙂 LOL Thank You HHD , very original and i could use the chuckle..right on par with when Heart said my English resembled Her typo's..lolol..
          Where is she btw..? O yeah , deeply insulted by the hating supremacist..

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          I've never been banned once. And here you are again making up false accusations.

          Just because I say that there is no safe dose threshold of radiation, I get all kinds of attacks here. Of course, there are all the best scientists on the planet that say the same thing, and it is the scientific consensus and found in Bier VII, doesn't seem to be relevant to my attackers.

          • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

            Misinformation. I doubt all of what you say… However, if we went by popular vote, you'd be long gone many times over.
            You get called out for personal attacks and pro-nuke nonsense- never the anti-nuke meme you proclaim.
            You are a little too attached and dependent on "your attackers", BTW.

            Welcome to Frank and Anne's place.

            Just ignore the Hippie bouncer and the CERN vortex- and c'mon in! Take a seat, have a box of wine. The windows have been conveniently blacked out and the aluminum on the floor is for your comfort. Please report all mask wielding stalker types to the ABC agency of your choice and make yourself at home!

            There will be a BS lecture at 4;30am, along with a shit-shoveling directional. If you forget your way home, blame CERN and have another box of wine! And remember…pacifism starts with psyop tactics. Enjoy!

            • q Farthington MacMananus

              Believe what you will bro, I support some of what anne says, I do not support some other things she says.

            • q Farthington MacMananus

              Assuming that she is actually female, of course. Which I have my doubts about.

            • Byrian416

              Just remember "if you build it, they will come". Stop going against your memory HHD, you remembered it correctly​ the first time!!!

              What ever happened to GOM?

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

              I've never said one thing that is pro-Nuke ever in my entire life.

              If you are claiming that saying that there is no safe threshold for radiation is pro-nuclear, you are saying that the entire anti-nuclear movement is actually pro-nuclear.

              On the contrary, it is those that claim that there is nuclear radiation hormesis that are pro-nuclear.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                Here is Rod Adams, mouthpiece for the nuclear industry:

                You’ve been told lies. Low dose radiation isn’t harmful. It can improve health
                June 29, 2016 By Rod Adams
                https://atomicinsights.com/youve-lied-low-dose-radiation-isnt-harmful-can-improve-health/

                • q Farthington MacMananus

                  Thanks anne.

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    nothing ever lived without low dose radiation, so how do you know if its beneficial or not? Thanking Anne for what exactly?

                    make no mistake, its not about hormesis, its about man made fallout vs background radiation

                • q Farthington MacMananus

                  "They understand that a revision away from the “no safe dose” assumption would have financial implications measured in the tens to hundreds of billions of dollars per year. There are tens of thousands of affected jobs and many thousands more that might be created or destroyed depending on the outcome of the discussion."

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  here is No Safe Dose of Ionizing Radiation

                  “There are many reputable scientists who believe, based on their research, that there is no threshold for tadiation damage to humans-no dose which is harmless. These are just a few of their words:

                  “’There is no safe level of exposure and there is no dose of radiation so low that
                  the risk of a malignancy is zero‘ — Dr. Karl Z. Morgan, dubbed the father of Health
                  Physics.1

                  “’…there is no safe level of exposure to ionising radiation, and the search for quanitifying such a safe level is in vain.’ — Rosalie Bertell, PhD.2

                  “In 1940, several members of the US Committee on X-Ray and Radium Protection ‘proposed that the [radiation exposure] standard be lowered by a factor of five in response to the accumulating evidence that ANY amount of radiation, no matter how small, can cause genetic damage, injuring future generations.’ Gioacchino Failla argued against the lowering of the standards saying that ‘if genetic damage were to be a consideration for standard -setters, then logically no radiation exposure should be allowed.’3

                  “’…the human epidemiological evidence establishes — by any reasonable standard of proof — that here is no safe dose or dose-rate…the safe-dose hypothesis is not merely implausible—it is disproven.’ Dr. J.W. Gofman 4

                  “’One thing we should take from this (1991 study of Oak Ridge weapons workers by Steve Wing, et al.) is that there isn’t any safe level of radiation exposure…’ Dr. Carl Shy 5.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    TYPO: There is No Safe Dose…

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    “’The reanalysis (of Hanford worker data) provides no support for the idea that…there is reduced cancer effectiveness of radiation at low dose levels…” Drs. G.W. Kneale and A. Stewart 6.

                    “’There is evidence that single tracks of all types of ionizing radiation can induce a variety of damage including DNA double-strand breaks which are believed to be critical lesions in radiation exposure.

                    There is also a body of experimental evidence that argues against an error-free DNA repair system operating at low doses of ionizing radiation that might result in a dose threshold for the induction of gene and chromosomal mutations.’ MP Little and CR Muirhead.7

                    “’An important feature of alpha irradiation is that, no matter how low the total dose to the whole body, substantial dose of radiation (approx. .5 Gy) is delivered to an individual cell if it is traversed by a single alpha particle.’ E Wright 8.

                    “The U.S. Committee on the Biological Effects of Ionizing Radiations concludes that, despite some evidence of a partial repair mechanism, recent low-dose radiation data ‘do not contradict the hypothesis, at least with respect to cancer induction and hereditary genetic effects, that the frequency of such effects increases with low-level radiation as a linear, non-threshold function of the dose.’ National Research Council BEIR V 1990)

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  Here is more false information from the pro-Nuke shill Rod Adams:

                  Debating validity and effects of assumption that all radiation adds risk
                  January 6, 2017 By Rod Adams
                  https://atomicinsights.com/hormesis/

                  Why does conventional wisdom ignore hormesis?
                  August 4, 2014 By Guest Author
                  https://atomicinsights.com/why-does-conventional-wisdom-ignore-hormesis/

                  Hormesis is entering the mainstream
                  July 22, 2015 By Rod Adams
                  https://atomicinsights.com/hormesis-is-entering-the-mainstream/

                  Defending hormesis and pointing to economic motives for asserting “no safe dose”
                  October 9, 2015 By Rod Adams
                  https://atomicinsights.com/defending-hormesis-and-pointing-to-economic-motives-for-asserting-no-safe-dose/

                  Mangano and Sherman take down – Atomic Insights
                  https://atomicinsights.com/mangano-sherman-take/

                  LNT Archives – Atomic Insights
                  https://atomicinsights.com/lnt/

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                anne you never answered; are you proud of protecting the man made to background radiation comparison, supporting the ICRP dose model, hounding my every post with five which are bafflegab? It was something good in your mind,…something you are satisfied with? Even though you were proven wrong on every detail, you feel somehow that you were just and did well? Its no use pretending you didnt do it.

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  Uranium and thorium and radon have lethal natural radioactive isotopes. Even too much sun in the middle of the day causes skin cancer. Non-ionizing radiation also causes cancer.

                  Man-made radioactive isotopes, especially alpha emitters and the actinides, are millions of times more lethal than background radiation.

                  All radiation of any kind of bio-accumulative. Women in their 40s are at risk for Down's Syndrome because of the bio-accumulation of radiation for 40 years. But young women also give birth to Down's Syndrome babies if they have been exposed to the same amount of radiation by their 20s.

                  Chidlren who use cell phones are at risk 5 times as much for brain cancer than those who do not use cell phones.

                  The facts are the facts. Cesium 137 is millions of times more carcinogenic than Potassium-40. Man-made Potassium-40 is 8,000 times more carcinogenic than natural Potassium which is part of Potassium.

                  Uranium is lethal as part of background radiation.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    Many ancient peoples have known that natural uranium in the ground is deadly:

                    “…Finally, let us remind ourselves of some wisdom of ancient people. For example, Dine, Navaho Nation has the following creation myth: ‘The people were given a choice of two yellow powders. They chose the yellow dust of corn pollen, and were instructed to leave the other yellow powder in the soil and never to dig it up. If it were taken from the ground, they were told a great evil would come’ (LaDuke 2009)….”

                    Eiichiro Ochiai. Hiroshima to Fukushima: Biohazards of Radiation, 2014,p.224.

                    He gives other examples in his book.

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  It is not a personal matter or a matter of pride. It is a matter of scientific truth and saving the lives of the children and the planet.

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    ok, no pride…but no embarrassment?
                    wrong about the age of life
                    wrong about the proportion of k-40 in ocean
                    wrong about the radioactivity of the ocean
                    wrong about the amount of radiation in the body
                    wrong about the excretion factor
                    wrong about man made K-40
                    right about the specific activity after I kept hammering on it
                    wrong about the Argonne labs toxicity source info
                    and so much more. This one is even comic;

                    "Man-made Potassium-40 is 8,000 times more carcinogenic than natural Potassium which is part of Potassium."

                    not even a blush of embarrassment that you are a PhD and teacher and fumbled simple things like ratios vs quantities? Electrolytes vs radiation?

                    Not the slightest abashment when Bo was trying to get you to admit some of your errors?

                    Its ok, some people are like that. Feelings of embarrassment or chagrin are completely foreign to them

    • It sure is sneaky how this persona operates, We don't miss a thing.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/13/nuclear-plant-backup-explosion/394561001/

    TONOPAH, Ariz. — For 57 days last year and early this year, one of the reactors at a nuclear plant west of Phoenix kept running after an explosion knocked a backup generator out of service.

    Experts at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission disagreed strongly over whether the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station should have been allowed to continue producing electricity during the repairs, according to documents leaked to the Union of Concerned Scientists, a watchdog group.

    … …
    …"The NRC's action is inconsistent with the NRC mission, NRC vision, NRC safety objectives, NRC regulatory effectiveness strategies, NRC openness strategies and the principles of good regulation," said Roy Mathew, a longtime agency employee, in his Jan. 23 petition to his employer.

    MORE

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Nuclear: Mo money, or else…

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nuclear-weapon-waste-official-says-192317896.html

    Future accidental radiation releases at the largest U.S. site of waste from nuclear weapons production are likely following back-to-back emergency evacuations of workers in May and June because aging infrastructure is breaking down, the top Energy Department official at the site told The Associated Press.

    Adding to the likelihood of more nuclear mishaps at the sprawling Hanford Nuclear Reservation is inadequate government funding to quickly clean up the millions of gallons of toxic nuclear waste at the site, said Doug Shoop, who runs the department's operations office at Hanford.

    Hanford has an annual budget of $2.3 billion for cleanup but Shoop said it will cost at least $100 billion to clean up the highly toxic radioactive and chemical wastes on the 580-square mile (1,502 square kilometer) site which produced up to 70 percent of the plutonium for the U.S. nuclear arsenal since it was established in World War II.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.onenewspage.com/video/20170619/7830746/Anti-Nuclear-Bomb-Activists-Arrested-At.htm
    Anti-Nuclear Bomb Activists Arrested At U.S. Mission to U.N.

    …The protesters sat in front of the doors for about 10 minutes before New York police moved in. U.S.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.fedbidopps.net/business-news/1.137154-doe-invests-nearly-67m-to-advanced-nuclear-technology.html

    DOE Invests Nearly $67M to Advanced Nuclear Technology

    …By supporting the five industry-led projects, DOE is accelerating its implementation of the GAIN initiative by providing these nuclear technology developers with access to world-class neutron and gamma irradiation and post-irradiation examination services. The GAIN initiative provides the nuclear community with a single point of access to the broad range of capabilities, people, facilities, materials, and data across the DOE complex and its National Laboratory capabilities.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    https://www.law360.com/articles/895735/wyoming-couple-wins-4-6m-tax-refund

    (February 27, 2017, 4:43 PM EST) — A Wyoming federal Judge on Friday ordered a refund of $4.6 million in tax penalties wrongly assessed on a former energy executive and his wife who participated in an abusive tax shelter, finding that the couple acted in good faith in relying on third-party advisers who told them the scheme was lawful.
    Corbin McNeill, the former chief executive and board chairman of PECO Energy Co. and its successor, Exelon Corp., lacked the sophistication to properly scrutinize the legality of a Brazilian distressed asset/debt, or DAD, tax shelter that he entered into on the advice of professional tax and legal advisers, U.S. District Judge Nancy D. Freudenthal concluded, ordering the return of $4.6 million in accuracy-related fees assessed on McNeil and his wife, Dorice, for their 2002 tax return.

    “While unquestionably smart and accomplished in his own right, in the context of the complex DAD shelter before the court which was specifically designed and implemented by others to exploit the tax code's partnership provisions, Mr. McNeill is not knowledgeable or sophisticated,” the decision states.

    …to offset a $66 million severance package he received upon retirement from Exelon.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    https://www.law360.com/articles/936246/tax-court-can-review-penalty-case-from-retired-exelon-exec

    (June 19, 2017, 8:35 PM EDT) — A U.S. Tax Court judge found Monday that the court had jurisdiction to review a former energy executive’s challenge of a $1.5 million IRS penalty over an abusive tax shelter, distinguishing between the underlying liability and a collection due process appeal.

    Had Corbin McNeill, the former chief executive and board chairman of PECO Energy Co. and its successor, Exelon Corp., and his wife, Dorice McNeill, simply been contesting the underlying accuracy-related penalty, they would not have been able to invoke jurisdiction. But…

  • Byrian416

    5 True Mandela Effect/ Glitch In Reality Stories!

  • DUDe DUDe

    I wont be online for a few days..taking a break..some asshole just destroyed my less then a year old dual boot 1.5 TB harddisk..that was already the only backup from what i could save from previous attacks..that usually happend right after serious "friction" here..i lost everything deartome/important now..old and new..i'm gonne blame someone here..i might even destroy my own soul in the process if their suggestions happen to be more then one of their many filthy personality disorders drooling over..so be it..tired of all this..seriously..

  • SadieDog

    "I told Althea I was feeling lost
    Lacking in some direction
    Althea told me upon scrutiny
    That my back might need protection
    I told Althea that treachery
    Was tearing me limb from limb
    Althea told me, now cool down boy
    Settle back easy, Jim

    You may be Saturday's child all grown
    Moving with a pinch of grace
    You may be a clown in the burying ground
    Or just another pretty face
    You may be the fate of Ophelia
    Sleeping and perchance to dream
    Honest to the point of recklessness
    Self-centred to the extreme

    Ain't nobody messin' with you but you
    Your friends are getting most concerned
    Loose with the truth, maybe its your fire
    Baby I hope you don't get burned
    When the smoke has cleared, she said
    That's what she said to me
    You're gonna want a bed to lay your head
    And a little sympathy

    There are things you can replace
    And others you cannot
    The time has come to weigh those things
    This space is gettin' hot
    You know this space is gettin' hot

    I told Althea, I'm a roving sign
    That I was born to be a bachelor
    Althea told me, OK that's fine
    So now I'm trying to catch her
    Can't talk to you without talking to me
    We're guilty of the same old things
    Thinking a lot about less and less
    And forgetting the love we bring"

    Garcia & Hunter

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Draining the swamp..
    Really??

    Senate confirms Trump's nominee to head FEMA

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/20/senate-confirms-trumps-nominee-to-head-fema.html

    Alabama.. swamp … or GRAVY TRAIN?

    BP oil spill money to go to Alabama governor’s mansion and a new hotel
    12/29/2015

    http://grist.org/climate-energy/bp-oil-spill-money-to-go-to-alabama-governors-mansion-and-a-new-hotel/

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Trump Appoints BP Oil Spill Lawyer As DOJ Environmental Attorney
    Clark has previously attacked climate change laws as an erosion of "sovereignty," and defended BP in one of the worst environmental disaster cases in U.S. history.
    June 9 2017

    http://www.mintpressnews.com/trump-appoints-bp-oil-spill-lawyer-doj-environmental-attorney/228727/

    An 'erosion of sovereignty' because the suggestions came from the UN instead of willing, by the US, itself?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "I'm sorry , mam. The can said tomato soup, but it was really pork and beans."

    Slobs..

    Los Alamos National Laboratory
    Waste drum shipped to Colorado was inaccurately labeled
    June 13 2017

    http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/waste-drum-shipped-to-colorado-was-inaccurately-labeled/article_12b3762d-9ec4-51ed-b434-eb6dd67f2318.html

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Then there is the other 60 barrels to be placed in collapsing WIPP.

    Hazardous materials soon to be removed from Los Alamos National Labs
    June 15 2017

    http://www.koat.com/article/hazardous-materials-soon-to-be-removed-from-los-alamos-national-labs/10031164

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