FORUM: Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here

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Previous radiation monitoring thread here: http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-dec-17-2011-present

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8,958 comments to FORUM: Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here

  • VoxDei VoxDei

    Could be medical or hospital sources. Dont rule that out.


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  • "Could be medical or hospital sources."

    A possibility.

    I have been keeping an eye on other USA live monitoring systems listed under the USA at,

    http://sccc.org.au/international-radiation-monitoring-stations

    No other live USA monitoring stations seem to be showing anything significant at present, around the location of this report. So at this point it seems to be very localized.

    Freebywill post

    "List of Nuke Facilities near this reporting station

    This reporting station is w of Chicago

    NPP's nearby in realtion to reporting station

    apprx due west Byron – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Nuclear_Generating_Station
    apprx ssw LaSalle – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaSalle_County_Nuclear_Generating_Station
    apprx due south Dresden – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_Generating_Station
    apprx due south Braidwood – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braidwood_Nuclear_Generating_Station

    also

    Morris Operation – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Operation GE Hitachi Spent Fuel Pool

    The Morris Operation in Grundy County, Illinois, United States, is the location of the only de facto high-level radioactive waste storage site in the United States and holds 772 tons of spent nuclear fuel.[1] It is owned by GE Hitachi Nuclear Energy with an address of 7555 East Collins Rd., Morris, IL 60450.[2] The site is located immediately southwest of Dresden Generating Station. Spent nuclear fuel assemblies are stored at this away-from-reactor, Independent…


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    From the look of this Wind Flow Map of the US, Phoenix is experiencing a downdraft situation right now, no doubt high radioactive air being pushed down to the surface. Notice all the lines radiate out from the city.

    http://hint.fm/wind/


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    The pathways of the Fukushima plumes may be crossing the Arctic within the lower troposphere and the Pacific Ocean within the mid-troposphere.


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    • VoxDei VoxDei

      Fukushima plumes have trace levels. Trace levels do not pose a human health risk.


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      • -1

        :|

        What no link?
        I'm not surprised.

        The FALLOUT from Fukushima's ongoing TRIPLE MELTDOWNS continue to accumulate AND spread as it circles the globe.

        There is a chance of health risk now, every time it rains on the Pacific Coast. Not to mention the RISK of eating imports from Japan which have been proven to be contaminated at high levels.

        At some point the 'so called' trace amounts add up.

        They've been adding up for over 3 1/2 years and they will continue to add up for decades and centuries to come.

        Do 'trace amounts' affect smaller organisms or life at the cellular level? Of course they do. Will that in turn have an affect on humans at some point? Obviously so.

        If one reads through this FORUM: "Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here", it is more than obvious that independent consistent radiation detector readings are telling us something and its not Happy Birthday.

        Also of note are the many unexplained high reading anomalies by both the EPA and reliable independent sources.

        Have you looked at this lately?

        Maybe this type of thing is why readings are going higher lately?

        Futuristic looking bucket drops fluid(?) into 'the pit' at R3.
        From Webcam Forum – Just this week
        (credit user bf9, 40 sec video)
        https://www.dropbox.com/s/2lwkhbinhsuixvw/11-21%20r3%20water%20drop%200923.flv?dl=0

        Conclusion:
        :| >>> Nuclear Power is NOT SAFE. It never will be!


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Mars has trace levels too! How is it looking over there? :) Dead planet? Think so..


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  • Radiation Report, Ventura Calif

    50 CPM

    Inspector Plus Geiger Counter

    Normal background is 7 -12 CPM


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  • I thought this part of the forum was for data reporting, rather than nuclear chit chat mixed with heavy doses of DOUBT ATTACKS…


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    • A bit of chit chat is good for the soul occasionally. It gets a bit dry only posting data, and detections.

      Just my opinion.

      We need forum discussion to exchange information and ideas at times. This helps clarify what is happening, and we all learn from it.


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  • Reports from a contact who has been keeping a close eye on these locations.

    San Leandro CA 243468 CPM 16th October 2014, (Average here 191 cpm) This is a huge detection!

    Another Saint Charles Il detection, 22th November 2014 ~6,000 cpm (Average here 19 cpm)

    Bakersfield Ca, ~1,600 cpm, ~1700cpm a few days before the 12th, and ~1,800 on the 12th November 2014, plus another ~1,000 cpm detection on around 21st November 2014 (Average here 277 cpm)

    These detections are so large, it suggests these are releases from local NPP's or other nuclear facilities nearby.


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    • The Saint Charles Il detection on the 22th November 2014 was two peaks close together at ~6,000 cpm.


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      • The detections at Saint Charles IL could potentially be from the local Funeral home. If you zoom in on the map one is located in the monitoring station location area.

        It is possible that the cremation of people who were undergoing medical radiation treatment could be the sources of these detections. It would be very dependent on the wind direction at the time.

        Before cremation, a Funeral home should be notified of a deceased persons possible radioactive medical isotope contamination.

        I remember significant detection reports, from near funeral homes previously over the years.


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        • Radioactive CORPSE Vapors Possibly Contaminated McDonald's Food Distribution Hub. Published on Oct 1, 2012

          Here is an old Potrblog youtube video report on this issue. If you're wondering why we are talking about this subject, read the posts above.

          Extract:

          Based on NRC event report #48331, the nearly 2 week delay in its release, and the sparsity of information contained in it, we decided to dig deeper. We looked at the PRESUMED location where the Iodine-125 contaminated corpse was cremated, the weather conditions present on the day of cremation, and likely fallout areas. Assuming the location to be correct, it appears to the POTRBLOG team that the primary fallout location impacted by the radioactive Iodine-125 vapors from the cremated corpse was a major MidWest food distribution hub for McDonald's.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7M62SL5kaY&list=UUQ7a7Q4EN-OY1mdyanRs-3w


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          • jump-ball jump-ball

            "Nuclear Medicine Services" of the St. Chas. IL DELNOR Hospital are more suspect than the funeral home.

            I was raised in St. Charles IL, which town grew and prospered on the Texaco oil inheritance managed by Dellora and Lester Norris.

            Their biggest local contribution was to establish DELNOR Hospital, which is the only local source of "NUCLEAR MEDICINE SERVICES", which I suggest is 1) the most likely source of a contamination leak, and 2) is also the most likely cause of extreme readings to be covered up and denied by the established powers.

            http://www.hospital-data.com/hospitals/DELNOR-COMMUNITY-HOSPITAL-ST-CHARLES705.html


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            • If it was a perfect World some government organization would be on location trying to establish what was the actual source of the high radioactive detections, wafting through the community.

              We have a number of suggested possibilities. In my opinion most likely to least likely order.

              1. Medical isotope source from a local hospital, a local cremation facility, a nearby local NNP, or an other Nuclear Facility.

              2. St. Louis Dump burning with illegal radioactive material in it. I think this would be to far away, plus monitors near St Louis should be detecting something

              3. Equipment malfunction.

              Any other ideas out there?


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              • jump-ball jump-ball

                St. Chas. locals worried the Bison at FERMILAB were radiation detectors:

                1) Some contaminant blown northwest from the partially decommissioned FERMILAB in nearby Batavia, where "…Fermilab's first director, Robert Wilson brought five American Bison to the site in 1967, a bull and four cows, and an additional 21 were provided by the Illinois Department of Conservation. Some fearful locals believed at first that the bison were introduced in order to serve as an alarm if and when radiation at the laboratory reached dangerous levels.[9]" WIKIPEDIA

                2)Contaminants coming southward in the Fox River, which expands into a small lake above the dam in downtown St. Charles.

                There certainly are plenty of areas of potential radiation contamination to test in or around St. Charles, none of which will be included in the BILLION dollar operating budgets of 'our' federal-state-agency or corporate cabals. No bull.


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                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  The nuke proponents say if your exposed to any of this radiation contamination stuff/poisons that you will live long and healthy?

                  Why are there any Nuclear cremated bodies? Should not all these people be jumping jacks and then doing push ups?

                  They should "all" be very healthy instead of dying from the nuke chemo treatments they were subjected too.. :)

                  Is there somebody out there lying through their teeth?

                  You bet! :)


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              • :|

                Maybe terrorist?

                Can't ever really rule that one out. We know it's coming.

                Could be a nut-job from Ferguson, MO who has made a 'dirty bomb' and drives around with it in the back of a pickup truck in the mostly affluent suburbs.

                With our outdated, mostly non-functional Rad Detection System in the USA, that sort of scenario could go on for a long time and might never be noticed.

                We are obviously not prepared for even a small radiological event. Must less a large one. :(


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      • :|

        St. Charles, MO could also be related to this.

        "Children should grow, not glow!"
        http://www.stlradwastelegacy.com/

        “I feel we need to protect the community before this stuff gets AIRBORNE before it’s a problem,” he said. “If the EPA wants to sit and say when it’s AIRBORNE, we’ll protect you, I can’t accept that, I will not accept that.”

        "The EPA is still considering how to fix the issues at the West Lake Landfill and says that removal is still an option, but a decision won’t be made on this for at least a year." Posted on June 17, 2013

        KMOV News St. Louis
        http://www.kmov.com/news/editors-pick/Residents-lawmakers-and-EPA-at-odds-over-how-to-proceed-with-West-Lake-Landfill-211883771.html

        Maybe it's gone AIRBORNE – :shock:


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  • * Vital-1 blind-sided me with the prospect of Tech-99m dosed corpses being cremated. That didn't occur to me –despite my being aware of other cremation hazards (mercury fillings, nuclear powered pace makers), and keenly aware of how amazingly hot radiographic patients can be (you might get a reading as one walks past your house).

    Fortunately, the gamma emitting half-life of Tc-99m is only 6 hours, so it mostly turns into long lasting, 249 KeV beta emitting Tc-99 in 2 to 3 days. I think that stuff is far more likely to show up (as persistently high CPMs) on a wipe or an air filter (has to be read at close range) than on your gamma reading, background radiation monitoring setup.

    I was glad when Mr. POTR got interested in local sources, which abound in the St. Louis region.

    In other (bad) EneNews: Even Dr. Ken concedes that the oceanic plume has arrived. There was a bump in my beach readings during September and the most ocean exposed beach (here along the Oregon coast) has been reading a tad higher since then. When we get 2 days in a row without rain, we'll do another reading.

    **@ uwantsun: if we post reasoned, informed, conservative commentary on our own counts, it can be more helpful than just the CPMs –given the diversity of our devices, methods and venues –but posting to a map (like RadViews' at:

    > http://radviews.com/map/

    –would be more meaningful and useful. (Radviewers are much more interested in posting than chit-chatting.)


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  • bf9 bf9

    620CPM in Phoenix today…

    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 4:956 Phoenix, AZ, US
    CPM: current 620 Low 11 High 620
    Average 123, Deviation 90.2
    (CPM of Beta particles)

    I'm not getting above 100, but still.


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  • Checkmate

    But on the St. Charles front- take a look at the long range graph and why the more recent spikes now and not before? And just recently. Has anyone contacted the station??? Or at least measured around the area? You would think that someone within a 30 mile radius would have a GC.


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    • "You would think that someone within a 30 mile radius would have a GC."

      I do remember this location getting a significant spike detections in the past.

      Yes, you need someone on the ground with a Geiger counter doing some detective work to try, and find the source.

      Warning, Might need hazmat gear during peak detections.


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  • Bungalow Phil, I apologize for taking so long to reply. On October 8th you said

    "Mark,
    I am sure a geiger counter can detect any emission from a source that emits radioactivity."
    As you know all geiger counters are not created equal. Even equipment that can detect alpha doesn't as alpha detection is problamatic. And obviously electromagnetic sources are not detectable with geiger counters. So theoretically a cloud of plutonium could pass through and most detectors would not see it. But yes I agree with you as people detect high readings often they assume it is from Fukushima when it might be local sourced or some offshore nuclear sub venting etc. Ultimately you need some sort of spectronomy type equipment that can define exact radio-nuclides to truly know if you are detecting radon or Cesium. I think we are on the same page. Yes any geiger counter will detect high radiation not neccessarily all types of radio-nuclide radiation and not electro magnetic radiation but no any geiger counter cannot define the source. And yes certainly high readings alone cannot be proven to come from Fukushima local NPP or secret military installations. Those high readings may very well be courtesy of your local government and not Fukushima.


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  • Enviroreporter RadNet Air Monitoring Nation Wide Radiation Report – 23rd November 2014

    Extract:

    Only 39 out of 124 USA EPA beta monitors are functional as of this date.

    http://www.enviroreporter.com/radnet-air-monitoring


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  • More significant spikes in radiation at the San Leandro CA monitoring station on netc.com for the 24th November 2014, ~12,000 cpm, ~14,000 cpm and ~ 19,000 cpm.

    Any ideas on possible sources of these significant spikes in radiation near San Francisco?

    See previous San Leandro CA report in post above.

    http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-april-30-2012-present/comment-page-66#comment-606615


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  • Any ideas on possible local sources of these significant spikes in radiation near San Francisco?

    My opinion is that it is more likely to be a local source, because the counts per minute (cpm) spikes are so huge.

    Nuclear Naval vessel venting?


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    • Hi Vital-1

      * It's hard to comment usefully on NETC's alerts and CPMs without membership access to the perspective of their graphs.

      * San Leandro is a private NETC station which appears to have been reporting only since late September. Presumably one of the GQ Electronics GMC series of Geiger counters with an M4011 GMT is in use.

      That station hit 243,568cpm on October 16, with many huge spikes before and since. Perhaps it's because of automatic graph scaling, but I see no periods of normal (16 to 25cpm) operation.

      Be my guess the GC is defective or the station keeper is clowning around. I've seen no commentary about San Leandro at the NETC forums (but I didn't look hard), nor do I see any indication over the past 2 months on this forum that Harlan or anyone else has taken an interest in these numbers –until your posts, Vital-1.

      ~~~~~~~~~~

      * I'm discouraged by the vulgar exchanges on our EneNews forums. I suggested earlier that troll type posts simply be ignored/shunned –since there seems to be no Admin at the helm anymore. (I don't think trolls are running both sides of those exchanges.) (Hmmmnnn)

      With all the grief being generated by the nuclear industry, there just HAS to be moderated conversations and useful data posting going on SOMEwhere across the vast Internet. (Maybe it's going on in German or Japanese?)

      I tried to interest folks in RadViews, but that venue remains pretty moribund. (At least Admin there responds.)

      Craig


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Regarding San Leandro readings- There needs to be confirmation like multiple locations in and around the vicinity to validate the readings. Nevertheless it is alarming.
    You all are aware that dumping occurs off the coast and is designed to waft in over the coastline by the on-shore breeze? There have been and continue to be reports of radioactive constituents in the mix. Apparently it is not illegal to dump hazardous materials from sanctioned govt sponsored aircraft. I have multiple photos of high flying aircraft that criss-cross the skies. Very much like any you would see on a website like http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/.
    A sudden high spike that coincides with the on-shore wind patterns after a chemtrail dump would be a suspicious occurrence and should be evaluated in that regard. This doesn't preclude the fact that there are multiple sources and some are more terrestrial in origin than others.
    To reiterate with no validation I would concur it is a malfunction or a highly localized occurrence. But if not and the readings continue to ebb and flow I would surely think otherwise. This then should trigger an alert status of the highest order.


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  • "This then should trigger an alert status of the highest order."

    Yes, I agree, these are very high detections at San Leandro monitoring station, and it should be investigated to clarify if it is a malfunction, or a serious release.

    Here is the latest http://www.netc.com San Leandro chart screen shot sent to me of the 24th November detection.

    http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/San-Leandro-24th-November-2014.jpg


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  • Bungalow Phil

    It appears Alameda is decommissioned and is a superfund cleanup site.

    Superfund cleanup site
    NAS Alameda was listed as a Superfund cleanup site on 22 July 1999. 25 locations on the base were identified as needing remediation. The largest of the individual locations is the West Beach Landfill which occupies approximately 110 acres (44.5 ha) in the southwestern corner of the base. Tests of the landfill indicate polychlorinated biphenyl (PCB) contamination.

    More on the history of NAS Alameda…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Air_Station_Alameda


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Nuclear powered aircraft carriers were home ported at Alameda into the 1990s, and thousands of local civilians were employed overhauling aircraft at the naval aviation depot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Air_Station_Alameda


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  • Ventura Calif Radiation Report

    52 CPM

    Inspector Plus Geiger Counter

    Normal background radiation 7-12 CPM


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  • Bungalow Phil

    I was determined to find the highest readings encountered on US soil but not having any luck. I did run into this wiki doc however that has a potential for happening here. I find it very disturbing the San Leandro GC readings. I do think if they are valid it would amount to a serious accident or breach of nuclear protocol. Those numbers dwarf any I have ever seen outside of Japan, next to the fucking reactors. So if this is simply a gas release or some other venting, then the reasoning is it has decayed or distributed about in lower concentrations. Either way this is major in its scope. This is in my view a nuclear disaster and I can only hope the GC was wrong. That wiki doc is about Goiania, Brazil…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident


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  • freebywill

    all netc rad stations around Tokyo showing radcon4 level


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  • A new live private radiation monitoring network has been added to the International monitoring station list.

    The Global Radiation Monitoring Network has numerous private monitoring stations spread over a lot of countries. Charts are provide by clicking on the coloured stations locators. They also have a cost effective standardized Geiger counter kit, which can be purchased to set up your own monitoring station.

    Global Radiation Monitoring Network, Drag and zoom World map to see stations. (P)

    http://www.uradmonitor.com/

    The International monitoring station list is a free service, which lists links to live radiation monitoring networks and stations, by country. This free resource is provided to help the community quickly track events across countries and networks.

    http://sccc.org.au/international-radiation-monitoring-stations


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  • Bungalow Phil

    If anyone has access to NETC charts and can share the graphs here would be appreciated. Last high was around 36000 cpm. This is well within the range of a GMC 300. I have suspicions about the source but can't access the NETC site. There is a perilous situation developing here. Confirmation is needed.


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Glory be a response. Yes, the data charts at NETC. Not a member.


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Yes, forgive me, San Leandro, CA


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  • The quickest way maybe to email: staff@netc.com an point out your urgency.


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  • Bungalow Phil

    San Leandro update 44750 cpm


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Oh, and thanks vital1, I did send them a message.


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  • freebywill

    Kyushu lit up, south near Sendia NPP and North near Genkia NPP


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  • * Hi BP. I've been an NETC member and was able to access the graph for the San Leandro station yesterday –per my comments above:

    > http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-april-30-2012-present/comment-page-66#comment-607968

    * However, upon returning to the members only map-with-graphs page today, my access had been terminated. (My $20, year-long membership should have expired about 4 months ago, so that must be why.)

    * I also emailed NETC, asking Harlan to please post a comment here about the San Leandro station's CPMs. (So far, no response.)


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    • Bungalow Phil

      Hi Craig,

      Thanks for the effort. I have read Harlan response to the San Leandro enigma and am not satisfied that it is a fluke. The reality is it is a highly contaminated site and having serviced nuclear powered fleet there is a high probability that the data is not without some merit. No info as to the detector make or energy range on the NETC site. I assume beta. I think ignoring this rather than determining the fault and assuming a worst case scenario would be more prudent. A lot of people in the vicinity. More sites need to be established in and around this area. IMO
      Thanks again.


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      • Bungalow Phil

        I think ignoring this rather than determining the fault and assuming a worst case scenario would be LESS prudent.


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      • "The reality is it is a highly contaminated site and having serviced nuclear powered fleet there is a high probability that the data is not without some merit."

        Great detective work Bungalow Phil, need someone on the ground to do a local Geiger Counter survey.

        If it is a genuine detection and not equipment malfunction, they may need to be in a hazmat suit during peak detections.


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  • Hi Vital-1.

    Gosh but that's an interesting new monitoring network (re:
    > http://www.uradmonitor.com/

    They're doing so many things right –!

    * A standard Geiger counter, G-M tube, and housing –which housing stops beta and also bucks the typically excessive response of G-M tubes to low KeV gamma (ie: "energy compensation").

    * All installations outside and a meter off the ground (per:
    > http://www.uradmonitor.com/tips-for-installing-the-uradmonitor-unit/

    * A straight-to-the-router, computerless, Ethernet or WiFi connection –which transmits only about 65 KB of data per day.

    * Excellent and publicly accessible(!) graphs –with:

    * Data –that includes (or soon will) (Goodness!) choice of uSv/hr or CPMs, temperature, barometric pressure, and even the operating voltage being applied to the G-M tube.

    Problems:
    * There is no pricing/ordering information –which is asked for over and over in the comments.

    * They didn't think to include internal diode protection for externally supplied power –just a warning that reverse polarity can blow the unit.

    * They're telling folks to mount the GC on an outside wall (preferably under a porch or deck roof) –instead of out in an open area, away from foundation radon and above actual ground.

    * Their station graphs label CPMs as "Particle Counts" –arghhh.

    * The graphs' ordinate values need to be carried out to one more decimal place, so that the lines don't look like saw tooth and square waves.


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  • All right, San Leandro is a private site that is using the free software that we do not support anymore. There is not enough data to think that it is reliable, so I have ignore that station.

    That new network sounds great, I like to see the unit. Netc has stopped selling our units because we have move on to the Ham radio APRS 30 meters. This way we will not need the Internet to gather the information. 30 meter messages over the Ham Radio can go over 1000+ miles. Good luck to the new network, we need all the help to inform people about radiation data.


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    • "we have move on to the Ham radio APRS 30 meters."

      Harlan, that is an interesting way to set up a network, must be expecting something more serious to happen.

      "There is not enough data to think that it is reliable, so I have ignore that station."

      Shame more people haven't set up monitoring stations near by, so that we can cross reference, and determine if it is a genuine detection.

      Someone in the San Leandro area with a Geiger counter could do a survey.


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  • califnative califnative

    4:00pm today – 552 CPM Bakersfield, CA, US
    CPM: current 552 Low 15 High 1802
    Average 178, Deviation 243.2

    61 CPM Phoenix, AZ, US
    CPM: current 61 Low 11 High 661
    Average 122, Deviation 90.7

    384 CPM Tucson, AZ, US
    CPM: current 384 Low 14 High 487
    Average 137, Deviation 87.3

    I've decided to ignore these consistent elevated readings in Tucson, don't know who to ask, why it's happening, still do random Radex1212 GC readings to watch for noticeable increases. The times I do try to stay inside is when they spray, a lot less spraying here than San Francisco, I'm thankful for that.


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    • In Enviroreporters latest U.S. Radiation Report 23 Nov 2014, the Bakersfield CA EPA beta chart went off scale at one stage.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEPVXzIUb8


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      • +1

        It's a shame government officials don't do more.

        There needs to be some sort of standard procedure in place.

        Maybe I'm just a dreamer, but it seems to me that when an EPA monitor, or even an independent monitor sets off an alarm for an extended period of time it should be reviewed by SOMEBODY.

        If you think someone has fallen in their home and needs assistance you can call the police or fire department to check on it.

        I think fire departments have rad detectors, why not call them if you know the location? Seems logical… ;)


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        • califnative califnative

          Hi ChasAha thanks, I'll look into that. All I could find regarding any kind of emergency response program is the Arizona Radiation Regulatory Agency http://www.azrra.gov/er/index.html
          Sad little outdated website, doesn't even mention what has happened to WIPP. Will have to do some more digging and see what else I can find.


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          • califnative califnative

            Found some information on Tucson's air monitoring stations from Arizona's Radiation Regulatory Agency 2014 Annual Performance Report http://www.azrra.gov/news/docs/2014AnnualPerformanceReport.pdf

            Page 4. "Goal: To respond effectively to any radiological incidents or accident within Arizona Performance Measures:
            Radiological incidents (non Palo Verde related)

            "Radiation from the reactor accident in Japan was detected in Arizona and the Agency had to respond to public concerns. Several questions from the public to the possible distribution of Potassium Iodine and the safety of the milk and water in Arizona". (they are actually acknowledging this)

            Page 6. TLD (?) monitoring sites: 55 – statewide monitoring program stopped in 2009 due to budget restraints. Only monitoring Palo Verde NPP at present, anticipate restarting this program in FY2015.

            Air sampling stations throughout Arizona: 10 – Several members of the public were concerned we could not provide data outside the Phoenix area during Fukushima reactor accident in 2011".

            http://www.azrra.gov/news/index.html

            Looks like I can contact Aubrey V Godwin, Director
            (602) 255-4845 ext.222 and hopefully get some answers!


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    • freebywill

      @califnative did you see my post a ways back about possible rad sources ?

      Are u aware of these potential rad sources for Tucson ?

      University of Arizona Tucson, AZ Triga Mark I 12/05/1958
      from NRC site U.S. Non-Power Research and Test Nuclear Reactor List

      contamination from tritium company American Atomics
      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/KillingOurOwn/KOO10.html

      if u use netc map and zoom in on rad sta it appears to be SE of the uni, but my guess is netc may not post exact location ( either by design or because geolocator is imprecise ).

      if you can get around you may want to do your own investigation with your personal gc and goto the uni and the Atomics location and take some readings around the sites on the compass points.

      you might also want to take readings around the city generally and plot them on a map to see if you can find the source. There could be some company ( like Atomics ) thats involved in some manufacturing process thats releasing something.

      glad to see a post from you, had wondered what happened, hope ur well.


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      • califnative califnative

        freebywill – no I didn't see your previous post. Thank you, I had to take a break, working on settling in my new home here, nice of you to ask :) I know, I thought about how can one find the "source", think I'll first contact Aubrey (noted above) and see if they can shed some light but I'm not counting on it.

        Thanks again.


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      • Tritium is much more toxic than the regulators let on. The tests results presented in the book reinforce this view. This is important because Fukushima has, and is releasing enormous amounts of Tritium into the Biosphere.

        How much pain and suffering did this company’s negligence cause to the workers and thousands of affected families, through serious illness, and premature death?

        Socking that this occurred!


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  • Alert level for Timisoara Romania 26th November 2014 peak 4.48 uSv/hr.

    No stations near by to confirm if it is a genuine, still could be equipment malfunction or a very localized event. If it is genuine, this is a very large detection.

    Note:

    Post above by Bungalow Phil

    "My malware detection says NO..NO to the uradmonitor.com sites. Too bad I wanted to check it out."

    My comment:

    Security software here is not flagging anything for that site.

    Here is a screen shot of the chart detection.

    http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Timisoara-Romania-261114.jpg

    Global Radiation Monitoring Network

    http://www.uradmonitor.com/


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    • Bungalow Phil

      Nice, vital1.
      It is IMO a better format than we are accustomed to. detections and biological dose is really what we are concerned about. It appears background is pretty much what I experience out in the Mojave. Not the beta, however.
      Appreciate the acknowledgement. I am hopeful we are not on the precipice of major disaster. With no govt. we are simply going to be victimized.


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Note the avg.

    33 CPM
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 1:B9D4871E.12 San Leandro, CA, US
    Click here for data charts
    CPM: current 33 Low 13 High 44570
    Average 84, Deviation 1026.3
    Average over last 10 minutes: 4229
    Last updated: 2014-11-27 01:05:29 GMT+0000


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  • Vital, you ask if I expect thing to get worst, here is a quote from the Bible. Between Japan and WIPP and other nuclear sites, I believe it is happening right now.
    The second angel poured out his bowl into the sea, and it became blood like that of a dead man; and every living thing in the sea died. Then the third angel poured out his bowl into the rivers and the springs of waters; and they became blood.

    Harlan


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Best wishes to all on the eve of this auspicious occasion. We have much to be thankful for despite the challenges that engage us. Be well all.


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  • califnative califnative

    netc.com 11:00am
    330 Fresno, CA
    448 Bakersfield, CA
    337 Phoenix, AZ
    449 Tucson, AZ

    Winds North West 9.1mph – WIPP?
    http://hint.fm/wind/


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  • Bungalow Phil

    San Leandro is off the NETC map today. Wonder what the problem is? No other station is observable in the area except Fairfield.


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