FORUM: Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here

Published: December 4th, 2012 at 12:00 am ET
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Previous radiation monitoring thread here: http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-dec-17-2011-present

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8,257 comments to FORUM: Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here

  • Once troubling to graph various weather factors over a period of time, I've been watching for consistent correlations of beta count peaks with other phenomena. The advent of hot morning sunshine after a chill night seems to be the best match, but not with satisfying consistency. Wind direction, rain and barometric pressure must play roles as well.

    * Subscribers to NETC may be aware of the recent flurry of alerts from EPA-RadNet stations in the north-central regions of the U.S. (NETC's public RadNet map is all beta now. Alerts as well?)

    It's important to note the vast difference between the air filter reading RadNet stations and what are essentially (what's on the) ground reading private stations. Placing your home Geiger counter outside and a meter high doesn't "sniff the air", so much as minimize the contribution of beta and alpha radiation, whereas a RadNet station (and Checkmate's recent readings) maximizes any airborne beta (resident on dust particles).

    Again, I looked for NETC RadNet alert correlations, the most obvious being a pronounced 5am to 6am warm-up peak, day after day –but not always. By looking for a _lack_ of peaks, I found cold spells.

    Perhaps areas with pronounced morning beta bumps are radon sources –due to geology, mines/tailings, or significant nuclear industry waste dumps (like St. Louis), while other areas mostly see the stuff blow in.

    I can imagine radon belches (4 day half-life) jet streaming here from Japan.


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  • No, Craig. Netc.com alerts are both Gamma (5:) and Beta (4:), for everyone. Please correct your statements about Netc.com
    Harlan


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    • Nothing to correct, Harlan –that was a question.

      I wasn't sure how you meant to balance RadCon-5 alerts displayed on the RadNet beta public map to members' alerts –and didn't want to get too far afield in discussing same here. (Admittedly, I'd not been previously paying close attention to all the member alerts.)

      ** So let's make sure I understand it. A (reliable) RadNet gamma station RadCon-5 will go out to the members, AND it will appear on the public map –even though there was previously no mention of the gamma station in question on the public map –right?

      I'm in reference to your announcement at:

      > http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-april-30-2012-present/comment-page-57#comment-531691

      "Netc.com alerts are both Gamma (5:) and Beta (4:), for everyone."

      Hmmnnn: I think I've still got it wrong (–and I'm honestly _not_ trying to be dense –even if I am here).

      Craig


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  • Au Au

    Radcon 5 San Diego, CA. If you are a member, go have a look. Wow, what is going on there?


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Americium 241, 243m, 242m, are all in my opinion the most dastardly of the fission class actinides and isomers. Its not funny that they are disbursed in the environment via smoke detectors. The transmugenics and matasticies alone should set off alarms with those in the know. After researching 241AM I took care in removing the old one still hanging on a wall. Gloves, 95 mask, plastic bags etc. If the 19 yr. trans developed to Neptunium 237, then even at the uCi (37000)Bg quantity it is quite destructive to bio entities. Alpha, gamma are the prime radiated energies.
    Bye


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    • califnative califnative

      BP- you mentioned earlier about an EMF bombardment last weekend, I am sensitive to my environment and believe me I felt the periodic pulses they were emitting for what seemed like 3-4 days in a row. Currently I have WIFI (not by choice) and wonder if it only intensifies the frequency, was hearing infrequent high pitch noise in my ear drum and a few weeks ago experienced irregular heart beat or a subtle flutter which I've read can be caused by haarp scalar waves that are prevalent in the sky.

      One more unusual symptom that plagued me, I had a deep ache in my mid back area, right side which I think could be my liver, it lasted two days, wonder if my liver was doing some heavy filtering! Can't say why it happened just wanted to mention it because alasanon brought it up symptoms in L.A.


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      • Bungalow Phil

        Umm, not exactly. That which I was referring to is the magnetosphere and toroidial flux. In your case from what you have described it would correlate to dirty electricity. The smart meters and WIFI connection to those symptoms is well documented as well as the amplitude of AC wave functions. I have experienced that whinning pitch in my ears as well and find it troubling. It comes and goes. No doubt a specialist would tell a patient it is ear wax buildup. Good info on dirty elecricity is sammilham.com. Remediation can be accomplished thru his guidelines and many others.
        Namaste


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      • 52Rockwell

        One word . Milk Thistle…ok 2 words :) also avocados.


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      • alasanon

        Thanks for insights, Califnative… The individuals I know in Los Angeles are naturally very physically hardy, but I can't imagine that they haven't noticed a few symptoms?!!…They're often taking a direct hit. I think it's an advantage that most people in CA were getting lots of Vitamin D sunshine, had access to healthy foods, and stay fit… Your immune system could take a beating now.

        You should try to recall what you ate before having any liver soreness. I hate to say this, but I had a similar "punch" to my liver after I ate out at a very fancy, delicious restaurant on the East Coast after Fukushima. I ordered the "Scottish" salmon, thinking it should be fairly safe out of Atlantic/NE waters. It tasted great, but I definitely had "blowback" and have to wonder about its origin and exposure-? I usually try a Bentonite clay detox cocktail shortly after a bad experience and so far, so good. Or, my problem that night may have been all the rich food and the whipped dairy on the mint grasshopper pie??? Who knows?… :(

        Be careful and good luck! There's a lot to watch out for.


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    • vital1

      Americium in smoke detectors is the decay daughter of plutonium. Great way to get rid this nuclear waste, and get paid for it.

      Watch this very informative video on why the fire safety experts consider Ionization Smoke Alarms in the home to be DEADLY, and an environmental hazard.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbymErJBw9c


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      • vital1

        If you take your Americium based smoke detector down you must replace it with an alternative. More info on smoke detectors here.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_detector

        Extract:

        "According to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), "photoelectric smoke detection is generally more responsive to fires that begin with a long period of smoldering (called smoldering fires)." Also, studies by Texas A&M and the NFPA cited by the City of Palo Alto California state, "Photoelectric alarms react slower to rapidly growing fires than ionization alarms, but laboratory and field tests have shown that photoelectric smoke alarms provide adequate warning for all types of fires and have been shown to be far less likely to be deactivated by occupants."


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        • vital1

          One of the very big issues with Americium based smoke detectors is that when they stop working or are no longer needed, people through them in land fills. Eventually this can lead to local ground water contamination.

          There should be better education, and strict rules regarding their disposal. It is as dangerous as Plutonium.

          In the shielded containment in the smoke detector it is not such a big issue. Once that shielded containment is breached, then you have a serious environmental and health issue.


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          • vital1

            Typo Correction,

            people throw them in land fills.


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          • Bungalow Phil

            Just as I remarked on a previous post it is ignorance of the dangers that allow the distribution into the environment. The guidelines maybe updated to reflect that hazard but the enforcement is lacking. I remarked that even in a fire whether the alarm worked or not it is still compromised if engulfed in flames. The fire safety folks are not aware, and if they are do not take it seriously. I pulled mine and tested for activity…183CPM! And this bad boy has been silently irradiating my home for years. I suspected it was hazardous for a time but did not take action until my research led me to it. Thanks to NETC and ENEnews I would not have been so inclined.


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  • califnative califnative

    Been a while since I posted my readings here from Tucson, AZ. Did random 5 min/30 min readings with Radex RD1212 uSv/hr gamma/beta/x-ray, outside balcony, 2nd floor, weather has been hotter than usual (yesterday 109), monsoon season too. For what it's worth this is what I have since 7-13-14:
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:30 0.12
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:35 0.11
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:40 0.13
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:45 0.16
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:50 0.12
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:55 0.13

    5 min 15.07.2014 07:26 0.10
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:31 0.14
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:36 0.12
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:41 0.13
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:46 0.13
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:51 0.10

    5 min 16.07.2014 07:18 0.14
    5 min 16.07.2014 07:23 0.12

    5 min 17.07.2014 05:26 0.12
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:31 0.11
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:36 0.14
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:41 0.13
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:46 0.14
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:51 0.10

    5 min 18.07.2014 07:39 0.10
    5 min 18.07.2014 07:44 0.10
    5 min 18.07.2014 07:49 0.12
    5 min 18.07.2014 07:54 0.13
    5 min 18.07.2014 07:59 0.13
    5 min 18.07.2014 08:04 0.11

    5 min 19.07.2014 16:41 0.12
    5 min 19.07.2014 16:46 0.12
    5 min 19.07.2014 16:51 0.14
    5 min 19.07.2014 16:56 0.13
    5 min 19.07.2014 17:01 0.10
    5 min 19.07.2014 17:06 0.13

    cont


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  • califnative califnative

    sorry for large list:
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:07 0.11
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:12 0.13
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:17 0.12
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:22 0.12
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:27 0.12
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:32 0.12

    5 min 23.07.2014 00:11 0.12
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:16 0.11
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:21 0.14
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:26 0.13
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:31 0.15
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:36 0.11


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  • VanneV VanneV

    List of RADCON-5 sites:
    5:717 near Springfield, MO, US 214 2014-07-23 13:35:00 A
    4:915 near San Diego, CA, US 23 2014-07-23 19:01:00 A

    List of RADCON-4 sites:
    5:213 near Rochester, NY, US 262 2014-07-23 17:07:00 G
    4:424 near Raleigh, NC, US 167 2014-07-23 08:50:00 G
    5:504 near Covington, KY, US 260 2014-07-23 17:00:00 G
    4:710 near Saint Louis, MO, US 187 2014-07-23 17:12:00 G
    5:710 near Saint Louis, MO, US 241 2014-07-23 17:12:00 G
    5:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 284 2014-07-23 18:25:00 G


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  • VanneV VanneV

    I think Denver is elevated.


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  • jec jec

    EPA sent me information for VA Beach and instructions to get more data, enjoy:
    Thank you for your response to the Envirofacts Warehouse Website. Envirofacts is an EPA program undergoing continual research and enhancement, so your feedback is greatly appreciated.

    You can use the RadNet Customized Search to obtain detailed information. From the Envirofacts website (http://www.epa.gov/enviro/), click on the RadNet Customized Search link http://www.epa.gov/enviro/facts/radnet/customized.html.
    In Step 1, click the Medialink, the Sampling Location link, and the Types of Radionuclides and Radiationlink, then click on the Step 2: Retrieve Tables for Selected Subjects button.
    On the STEP 2: Select Tables for Search page, click the 3 table checkboxes, then click on the Step 3: Select Columns button.
    On the STEP 3: Selection of Columns page, click to check the Media Name, Collection Start Date, Collection End Date, City Name, State Abbreviation, Result Amount, Result Unit and Analyte Name checkboxes, along with the checkboxes for any other information desired, then click the Step 4: Enter Search Criteria button.
    On the STEP 4: Enter Search Criteria and Organize the Output page under the Radionuclides/Radiation Searchsection , select Iodine-131 from the Analyte list. Enter 1 in the Sort order column for the Collection Start date row and the choose Descending in the Sort Order option list. (to see just the results for Virginia Beach enter the City name and State in the…


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    • jec jec

      and State in the geography section of the search. The attached file shows the results for VA Beach only)
      Then click on the Search Database button at the bottom of the page.

      (See attached file: 2-14-2014 VA Beach Iodine 131.xlsx)

      Repeating the steps above for Cesium-137 you will see that there is data as recent as December of 2013.

      For monitoring results as graphs updated several times daily please see EPA' RadNet data website http://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-data/index.html . This site provides results from stationary and deployable air monitors measuring radiation 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You can also search the RadNet database in EPA's Central Data Exchange (CDX) https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/query.do to find monitoring data.


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    • jec jec

      so here is the file on testing for IODINE..up to 1995…will check out the cesium per the suggestions from the email.
      V_ERAMS_MATRIX_SAMPLE_ANALYSIS.MAT_DESC V_ERAMS_MATRIX_SAMPLE_ANALYSIS.COLLECT_START V_ERAMS_MATRIX_SAMPLE_ANALYSIS.COLLECT_END V_ERAMS_LOCATION.CITY_NAME V_ERAMS_LOCATION.STATE_ABBR V_ERAMS_RESULTS_ANALYTE.RESULT_AMOUNT V_ERAMS_RESULTS_ANALYTE.RESULT_UNIT V_ERAMS_RESULTS_ANALYTE.ANALYTE_NAME
      Drinking water 1/3/1995 1/3/1995 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.065 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 10/3/1994 10/3/1994 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.083 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 4/6/1993 4/6/1993 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.09 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/17/1992 1/17/1992 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.07 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/3/1991 1/3/1991 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.01 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/3/1990 1/3/1990 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.23 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 10/20/1989 10/20/1989 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.09 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 10/26/1988 10/26/1988 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.1 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 10/14/1987 10/14/1987 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.003 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 8/13/1987 8/13/1987 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.43 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Air filter 6/2/1986 6/10/1986 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.003 PCI/M3 Iodine-131
      Air filter 5/23/1986 5/27/1986 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.013 PCI/M3 Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/2/1986 1/2/1986 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.02 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/7/1985 1/7/1985 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.04 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking…


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      • jec jec

        EPA website has 404 ERRORS for on line links which I reported. And then found Cesium 137 in Virgina precip, up from ND in the 80s-90s or until Fukushima.
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-MAY-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00888 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-JUN-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 -0.0037 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-JUL-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00185 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-AUG-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 -0.00925 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-SEP-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00592 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-OCT-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.0133 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-NOV-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.0118 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-DEC-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 -0.00999 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-JAN-14 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 -0.0133 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-FEB-14 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00777 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-MAR-14 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00481 Bq/L

        Maximum of selected states is Cesium-137 0.381 Bq/L, wonder what state THAT was of the MAX, Guam was included….


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        • jec jec

          So then I try and GRAPH it from the website, fail! Needs a diff version of JAVA. This is certainly not created for the public..So updating with the latest and greated Java SE..now to see. I am a computer scientist with a patent for an internet search engine/interpreter..so not exactly a newbee to JAVA apps.


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        • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

          Jec- Norbu- Everyone: Report on EPA Beta testers by Michael Collins at Enviroreporter
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P6nf22rcPMY

          http://www.enviroreporter.com/


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        • alasanon

          yeah, we have some in Virginia. I had spectrometry testing done by the state mobile lab back in 2011. There were "small" amounts of radioactive Cesium in the public tap water I had tested from a central Virginia river system. NO Tritium or Iodines at that time. They could not test Strontium on the spot (of course). Radiostrontium is always the ominous mystery… The radiologist told me not to worry about the minor levels at all and mentioned that your skin protects you… I asked about the cumulative effect? He became quiet and told me that I was smart to be curious… Overall, he said not to worry & drink up!.. (?) He did admit that these amounts were markers of Fukushima contamination. It really happened, he said!-


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          • alasanon

            He just wrote it off as typical small atmospheric levels. When I asked if it dated back to Chernobyl, he definitely concluded that no, it was Fukushima–that first big rainout/fallout here. :X

            It seems like more people should know about this?!!…

            I just can only find so much time for these hobbies-sorry.


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    • jec jec

      Got report for the STATE OF VIRGINIA, request was for 2000-2014. Nothing since 2011, no testing I guess. Wonder what they are saving their dollars for? Note that Tritium is output by nuclear plants all over the area:
      Also, LYNCHBERG is not all of VA, its just the far west, most current test results. Note only shows up to 2011:
      Precipitation 12/15/2011 12/15/2011 LYNCHBURG VA 7 PCI/L Tritium

      Precipitation 11/15/2011 11/15/2011 LYNCHBURG VA 38 PCI/L Tritium

      Precipitation 9/15/2011 9/15/2011 LYNCHBURG VA 58 PCI/L Tritium


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  • Checkmate

    Regarding dirty furnace air filter- Thanks BP for the website on testing, but I have already disposed of the filter via the garbage- didn't know what else to do with it. Craig- thanks for the idea of radon, but the house was tested years ago and it was fine; no radon problem. Yes, the furnace filter is in the basement. I have an average reading of 395 cpms or 39.5 cpms per minute of background for the past year on using an Inspector Alert. I never had a reading above 60 cpm on a current reading except once last Oct., 2013 of 1,500 cpm at current readings, not a ten minute reading. I had a previous furnace filter tested by K4 labs in TX and that filter read 66 cpms with a 31 cpm back ground- indicating a little over 2x background. They said they did not test for anything specific. Of course, I do not know the lab as they said it wasn't bad and more towards being a normal reading and not anywhere near comparison as to other parts of the country. But again I did not do the test before hand, thus I don't know if it is correct.
    I am beginning to think this last filter may have been built in Japan. Being completely new and clean, the filter may have been radioactive from the start or at least the metal used in it was active. Any thought on this???


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    • * The rapid rate of decay indicates you were mostly dealing with newly (and very recently) captured radioactive dust. Had you done a reading two days later, it would be interesting to see how close it would have been to background.

      * Since it has the earmark of radon, since the CPMs were crazy high (I try not to be an "alarmist"), and since you live there, best get to the bottom of it. At least keep tabs on what the new filter is telling you –and note the weather/environmental conditions.

      * Weather, rain, furnace operation –even something so simple as an open upstairs window or wind passing over your house can make a dramatic difference in radon levels.

      * IF (if) it's something blowing in on you, keeping a record of wind and direction might tell you from whence it came –and maybe someone's or RadNet's monitoring up-wind will correlate with yours.

      Craig


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  • Checkmate

    Thanks Craig for advise and info, I will certainly check on it and post it….


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  • New comments at the General forum are posting as a reply to combomelt's entry.

    So "General Nuclear Issues" joins "Alternative Energy" as a dysfunctional forum.

    Craig


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  • I think our 2 *guests* must be jamming the site, hacking…worse today.

    And I just now found the high San Diego readings. Yipes. Gotta call my daughter there.


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  • vital1

    U.S. Radiation Report 24 July 2014 by EnviroReporter.

    EnviroReporter.com analyzes the beta and gamma graphs it has organized from the United States Environmental Protection Agency's RadNet system of 123 radiation detecting sites across the nation. This exclusive analysis uses the best radiation readings in America. Michael Collins makes it easy to understand the current state of how hot, or not, it is radiation-wise across the country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6nf22rcPMY


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  • I'm joining Vital-1 in posting links elsewhere –which you might care to copy for future reference. (I'm concerned that EneNews appears to be failing.)

    In addition to EnviroReporter (who copyrights and copy blocks his pages –last I checked), and all the resources which Vital-1 lists (some duplicated below), here are a few web sites you might not be aware of:

    * Nothing much is happening at RadViews, but I think it deserves our participation:
    > http://radviews.com/

    * Dr. Fairlie is posting his socially motivated and authoritative opinions again at:
    > http://www.ianfairlie.org/news/

    > http://www.gregslab.com/tools/radwatch/

    > http://nuclear-news.net/

    > http://www.beyondnuclear.org/
    > http://ffan.us/

    > http://www.nukefree.org/

    > http://www.nuclearhotseat.com/

    > http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/

    (My own web pages will probably be deleted after August 5th.)

    Craig


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  • Au Au

    List of RADCON-5 sites:
    4:107 near Concord, NH, US 111 2014-07-27 13:16:00 A
    5:501 near Chicago, IL, US 313 2014-07-27 13:32:00 A

    The last time near Chicago, IL was that high was November 26, 2011.

    List of RADCON-4 sites:
    4:207 near Syracuse, NY, US 129 2014-07-27 15:02:00 U
    4:505 near Madison, WI, US 277 2014-07-27 09:15:00 G
    5:505 near Madison, WI, US 308 2014-07-27 09:15:00 G
    5:512 near Detroit, MI, US 279 2014-07-27 13:42:00 U
    5:514 near Milwaukee, WI, US 219 2014-07-27 06:49:00 G
    4:517 near Grand Rapids, MI, US 285 2014-07-27 14:10:00 G
    5:517 near Grand Rapids, MI, US 291 2014-07-27 14:10:00 G
    5:531 near Aurora, IL, US 271 2014-07-27 05:38:00 G
    4:607 near Lincoln, NE, US 271 2014-07-26 16:30:00 I
    5:607 near Lincoln, NE, US 312 2014-07-26 16:30:00 I
    5:913 near Las Vegas, NV, US 186 2014-07-27 14:17:00 U
    4:915 near San Diego, CA, US 76 2014-07-27 13:22:00 U

    http://www.netc.com


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    • alasanon

      $#@%^…I can't believe that for Chicago!! :/

      That's 10 million Americans in the greater metro! :X

      They also have so many reactors in Illinois…I did
      see they had the Jet Stream lurking up there. With muggy
      weather, there could be a bad conversion aloft & bad air.


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Au Ty for reporting this
    I'm about 60 miles south of concord and we are having batches of storms marching east today ..raining now , I was always a weather watcher because I'm an avid gardener , so it's bittersweet that now I watch for rads and having a much bigger appreciation for weather patterns ..


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    • Au Au

      You are welcome clamshellnh. I'll forward that thanks onto the wonderful netc :) I'm sorry to see that radcon 5 so close to you.

      We are seeing radcon 4 where we are. Went and did QiGong and Tai Chi in the park anyway. That's one of the paths our family is taking. The earth's tipping point has been tipped. I feel so much anguish for destruction. Have to find a way to deal with it all.

      There is so much geoengineering fallout on us – on top of the rads. The air is silvery all the way to the ground.Chem-bombing us – those brainless eggheads.

      I have also become an avid weather watcher. Do you find your garden is doing well? I see a lot of very stressed trees here.

      Are you seeing an increase of bugs? gnats? mites? I am seeing that in MI. Just look around. Do you see a lot of people scratching? You can answer me in off-topic if you like.


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  • Oregon was heavily pelted by Fukushima atmospheric radiation and it at continued risk from ocean contamination.

    yet the Governor or Oregon see nuclear as part of a "low carbon future". these tired old lies make me tired.

    http://www.gazettetimes.com/business/local/governor-hails-potential-of-nuclear-power-in-visit-to-nuscale/article_944a9b2c-1496-11e4-a804-0019bb2963f4.html


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  • This blog thread is for radiation readings so here is the latest Radcon-5 from Netc.com

    List of RADCON-5 sites:
    4:101 near Hartford, CT, US 98 2014-07-28 11:01:00 A
    4:107 near Concord, NH, US 134 2014-07-28 10:20:00 A
    4:111 near Worcester, MA, US 168 2014-07-28 11:54:00 A
    1:30EAD89E.1 near Roseville, CA, US 134 2014-07-28 15:41:19 A

    RADCON-4 Concern/Watch

    G Good Site – Reliable but Alert condition not met
    U Unreliable Site – Unreliable site, not enough data points, and alert condition not met
    I Inactive Site – Reach RADCON-4 but went inactive – no more data
    List of RADCON-4 sites:
    5:101 near Hartford, CT, US 369 2014-07-28 11:01:00 G
    5:111 near Worcester, MA, US 469 2014-07-28 11:54:00 G
    5:115 near Burlington, VT, US 237 2014-07-28 13:06:00 G
    4:208 near Shirley, NY, US 68 2014-07-28 07:52:00 G
    5:208 near Shirley, NY, US 166 2014-07-28 07:52:00 G
    4:303 near Wilmington, NC, US 48 2014-07-28 10:41:00 G
    4:321 near Dover, DE, US 65 2014-07-28 11:26:00 U
    4:707 near Dallas, TX, US 250 2014-07-28 13:02:00 G
    5:707 near Dallas, TX, US 240 2014-07-28 13:02:00 G
    5:709 near Houston, TX, US 242 2014-07-28 12:48:00 G
    4:915 near San Diego, CA, US 92 2014-07-28 10:26:00 G
    4:941 near Olympia, WA, US 76 2014-07-28 12:38:00 G


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  • NATIONWIDE U.S. Radiation Report

    as of 24 July 2014
    From EnviroReporter.com
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6nf22rcPMY&feature=youtu.be

    The video report looks primarily at beta charts. Some interesting points as Michael Collins walks through and takes a direct look at the EPA's own charts.

    IMO – This sort of reporting should be part of Al Roker's NBC National Weather segment each morning.

    Someday it probably will be. ;)

    I was thinking a weekly TOP 10 RAD Cities short video might be a way to get more people to listen/watch.
    What do you think?


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    • Hi ChasAha.

      At 2:14 I stopped EnviroReporter's video. He's still hooked on that magic number of "100cpm", which use to be the somewhat arbitrarily chosen alert level at (privately run) Radiation Network. Michael Collins talked about 100cpm being "3 times background", so he must be oblivious to the difference between the (essentially gamma) background count rate of G-M tubes in better private monitoring stations –and RadNet's beta reading sensors in close proximity to air filter concentrated dust particles (which are mostly about radon daughters –surely).

      For the real picture, access Harlan's excellent graphs ($20/year).

      I realize that EnviroReporter looms large and must be well motivated –and it all seems such a pity.

      An "informed electorate" –POOF.

      ** The larger issue here is that high tech trumps democracy, dooming us to becoming (at best) a –headless, managed-by-specialist-experts, society. I suppose it could be a benign and socially motivated operation –something like the prescriptions at:

      > http://www.technocracy.org/

      (Fat chance.)

      ~~~~~

      By the way: for anyone who's concerned about my not posting lists of contextless CPMs, the link off of my name takes you to 3+ years of background graphs, beach readings, air filter readings and other monitoring stuff.

      ~~~~~

      The Alternative Energy forum has been dysfunctional for over a month now.

      Craig


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      • Hi Craig-123,

        IMO – Michael Collins is not oblivious. He's is one of the best.

        I was surprised to see that your comment sounded somewhat condescending of a professional who has 30+ years of experience in Environmental Reporting. Award winning too, I might ad.

        He does not claim accuracy for the EPA graphs. He just shows them.

        btw – 150 cpm is considered an official HAZMAT situation for California Highway Patrol and 100 is about 3x of Santa Monica's average background.

        I don't have $20. (99 cents maybe)

        Personally, I don't think people should have to pay for critical information that is potentially life saving and important for all of us. I think it should be shared freely. Just an opinion. If you really need the some money then use donations or adverts, that would be my suggestion.

        I think it's a pity when others try to put down people to make themselves look better. It can have the reverse effect. ;)

        Go ask Mr. Collins directly about the 100 cpm or whatever. I am certain he will give you an answer.

        EnvirorReporter has a comment page here.
        http://www.enviroreporter.com/2014/04/radiation-conversation-ii/

        Sincerely,
        ChasAha


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        • correction: should have said

          … if 'anybody' really needs money…


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          • nuclear pollution nuclear pollution

            I think Michael Collins did a great job in that video. I hope he'll continue doing them.

            I respect Michael Collins because he was there from the beginning with a chatroom and taking radiation measurements and offering a place to gather and learn on-line about Fukushima.

            I support him.

            I also support NETC which does a great job.

            There's plenty of room for all of these amazing sources we're lucky to have.


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        • * I took ChasAha's suggestion and posted the following to Michael Collins' Conversation pages:

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          Dear Mr. Collins,

          * Thanks for your easy access to EPA-RadNet graphs.

          * Concerning your 7/24 US Radiation Report video, when (at 2 minutes in) you cite volatile air filter based RadNet beta counts/min –in comparison to (essentially) ground/roof accumulation based gamma background counts/min –well: how can there be a valid comparison?

          This strikes me as being "Apples to oranges". (You might want to ask a trusted rad guy like Fairewinds' Marco Kaltofen for an opinion on that.)

          Craig
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          There are other issues, but best I picked just that one –for clarity.

          * That video gave me such a "Deja Vu" feeling. I've been trying to scotch that fixation with "100cpm" since my day-1 in the forums. Depending on the Geiger Counter (or other sensor) and on where the GC is located (and we're talking only gamma now), 100cpm can be anything from insignificant to ten times the average background level. (Every old timer here at EneNews and at EnviroReporter should be perfectly aware of that by now.)

          Comparing private monitoring gamma background levels to RadNet beta levels, and suggesting Cs-137 as a possible source –that's over-the-top and hurts the credibility of everyone who picks up on it.

          (Cs-137 is usually thought of as a gamma source, but it does undergo beta decay –to barium-137m, which is the actual gamma source.)


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  • Jakobi Jakobi

    Yikes!

    Could someone explain why Roseville, Ca, would be reading 'RADCON-5-ALERT,' the highest reading (which I pretty much almost never see), while adjacent areas are on the 'normal' side of things (with the exception of Fairfield, a '2')?

    Perhaps the device picked up a stray, localized cloud/particle?

    Not sure how to link to specific space-time area…

    netc.com


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  • vital1

    Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Nuclear Weapons (HBO) Published on Jul 27, 2014. (Kevin Blanch pointed to it in his latest video.)

    Extract:

    America has over 4,800 nuclear weapons, and we don’t take terrific care of them. It’s terrifying, basically.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1ya-yF35g&feature=youtu.be&list=UU3XTzVzaHQEd30rQbuvCtTQ


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  • califnative califnative

    Steady 301 CPM in Tucson
    NETC.COM © 2014
    Station ID 4:919 Tucson, AZ, US
    Click here for data charts
    CPM: current 301 Low 7 High 512
    Average 77, Deviation 51.4
    (CPM of Beta particles)
    Last updated: 2014-07-29 13:01:00 GMT+0000

    What the hell am I suppose to do?


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  • VanneV VanneV

    List of RADCON-5 sites:
    4:915 near San Diego, CA, US 176 2014-07-29 13:32:00 A
    5:915 near San Diego, CA, US 462 2014-07-29 13:32:00 A
    List of RADCON-4 sites:
    5:115 near Burlington, VT, US 262 2014-07-28 21:08:00 G
    4:607 near Lincoln, NE, US 248 2014-07-29 13:32:00 U
    5:708 near Kansas City, KS, US 434 2014-07-29 14:20:00 G
    5:917 near Riverside, CA, US 308 2014-07-29 09:13:00 U
    4:919 near Tucson, AZ, US 301 2014-07-29 13:01:00 U
    5:919 near Tucson, AZ, US 392 2014-07-29 13:01:00 U
    4:937 near San Bernardino, CA, US 143 2014-07-29 13:37:00 G


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    • califnative califnative

      hi anne – I only see one Tucson monitor for 301 on netc, is there another Tucson monitor showing 392? I don't see that on NETC.com! :( I swear I just went outside for 10 mins and now my lymph nodes in my throat feel swollen. I wonder if I have to subscribe to see the second monitor?


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      • VanneV VanneV

        I got this when I zoomed in netc:

        301 CPM
        Station ID 4:919 Tucson, AZ, US

        CPM: current 301 Low 7 High 512
        Average 78, Deviation 51.9
        (CPM of Beta particles)
        Last updated: 2014-07-29 13:01:00

        I think the station 919 is the same for both readings

        I don't know what the 4 or 5 in front of the station number refers to. Maybe one refers to gamma readings and one to beta readings. I'm just guessing.


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        • VanneV VanneV

          I looked on the website which gives charts from the EPA, which are no longer included on netc.

          http://www.enviroreporter.com/radnet-air-monitoring/arizona

          There are 2 different charts, one for beta, one for gamma.

          Denver has terrible readings for beta radiation, but the EPA has discontinued this chart for Denver. I don't know much about all the readings. Better ask someone else.


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          • califnative califnative

            anne – thanks, I bet it is gamma reading. I don't see monitor 5 though. Denver has always been high, I was born there but moved after 3 years. I just turned on my Radex RD1212 and it immediately beeped at 34 uSv/hr, that is the first time that happened.

            Can't believe my throat glands are swollen, it's very noticeable :( I need to read up on what I should do when this happens…anybody able to provide some feed back on this? I would really appreciate it. I have Iodine tablets but I don't think I'm suppose to take them, yet.

            Will post my readings later.


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            • califnative califnative

              114 CPM – just dropped 187 counts from 301. Isn't that a big drop all of a sudden? Radiation plume blew into Tucson this early morning and stayed until 3:00PM.
              NETC.COM © 2014
              Station ID 4:919 Tucson, AZ, US
              Click here for data charts
              CPM: current 114 Low 7 High 512
              Average 78, Deviation 52.6
              (CPM of Beta particles)
              Last updated: 2014-07-29 21:02:00 GMT+0000

              5 min readings and one 30 min average using GC Radex RD1212 in uSv/hr gamma/beta/x-ray:
              5 min 29.07.2014 10:33 29.07.2014 10:38 0.12
              5 min 29.07.2014 10:38 29.07.2014 10:43 0.14
              5 min 29.07.2014 10:43 29.07.2014 10:48 0.13
              5 min 29.07.2014 10:48 29.07.2014 10:53 0.14
              5 min 29.07.2014 10:53 29.07.2014 10:58 0.11
              5 min 29.07.2014 10:58 29.07.2014 11:03 0.13
              5 min 29.07.2014 14:32 29.07.2014 14:37 0.13
              5 min 29.07.2014 14:37 29.07.2014 14:42 0.11
              5 min 29.07.2014 14:42 29.07.2014 14:47 0.11
              5 min 29.07.2014 14:47 29.07.2014 14:52 0.11
              5 min 29.07.2014 14:52 29.07.2014 14:57 0.13
              30 min 29.07.2014 15:23 29.07.2014 15:53 0.12


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            • Cali, have you been taking kelp tabs all along as regular maintenance to keep your thyroid from absorbing the man made isotopes when rad counts go up like that?

              I thought the emergency iodine tabs were only for extremely high prolonged exposure. So I can't make a call on it. Hope one of the docs does respond to you.

              During one of Fuku's early heavy emission events and a rain storm here, I had swollen lymphs too but they went back to normal. Been keeping up with my regular OG food grade kelp tabs ever since. :)


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  • vital1

    Report from FukushiMan 26th July 214

    Comment:

    Park has very hot spots, and children play there, criminal.

    http://vancouvermonitoring.blogspot.ca/2014/07/report-from-fukushiman.html?m=1


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Heavy chemo-trailing going today. Caught them in the act on camera, hope the shots can be viewed in detail. Camera is kinda old. Got some photos of the sun and chemo corona also. On the screen the sun looks like a black dot surrounded by a light magenta corona, very mysterious. I wonder if it is an overload on the pixels in the center of the pixel matrix? These planes were pretty low and you can see they have 4 engines and look commercial. 5:00 or around that hour is a time good to catch them, the sun is just right and the details of the planes can be seen clearer. Moving about 400-500 mph. The route is heavily traveled as Vegas is NE of my position.
    If any one has a known good calibration on their GMC share it so can use as a second calibration,
    Thanks,
    Phil


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    • I believe all of the GMC Geiger counters come with an M4011 glass G-M tube. My GMC-200 runs about 16cpm (long term average) in a typical 10uR/hr (0.10uSv/hr) background field of gamma radiation.

      The free/comes with software GQ Electronics provides assumes 20cpm at 10uR/hr (as I recall). My GMC-200 is data logged by Radiation Network's "GeigerGraph" software.


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      • Bungalow Phil

        Thanks Craig, I will use that. I never installed my graphing software. I did an install on an older PC running Vista and it still is having problems with stability. 32 bit OS. Runs Chrome but has problems with Mozilla, even though I installed 32 bit Mozilla. I like it though it is an older Acer I got at a thrift shop. I used to get weird audio and then realized it was the previous install of an earlier professional Windows. Still working the bugs out.
        Thanks


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Correction:
    5:00 or around that hour is a GOOD TIME to catch them,


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