FORUM: Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here

Published: December 4th, 2012 at 12:00 am ET
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Previous radiation monitoring thread here: http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-dec-17-2011-present

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8,195 comments to FORUM: Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here

  • Once troubling to graph various weather factors over a period of time, I've been watching for consistent correlations of beta count peaks with other phenomena. The advent of hot morning sunshine after a chill night seems to be the best match, but not with satisfying consistency. Wind direction, rain and barometric pressure must play roles as well.

    * Subscribers to NETC may be aware of the recent flurry of alerts from EPA-RadNet stations in the north-central regions of the U.S. (NETC's public RadNet map is all beta now. Alerts as well?)

    It's important to note the vast difference between the air filter reading RadNet stations and what are essentially (what's on the) ground reading private stations. Placing your home Geiger counter outside and a meter high doesn't "sniff the air", so much as minimize the contribution of beta and alpha radiation, whereas a RadNet station (and Checkmate's recent readings) maximizes any airborne beta (resident on dust particles).

    Again, I looked for NETC RadNet alert correlations, the most obvious being a pronounced 5am to 6am warm-up peak, day after day –but not always. By looking for a _lack_ of peaks, I found cold spells.

    Perhaps areas with pronounced morning beta bumps are radon sources –due to geology, mines/tailings, or significant nuclear industry waste dumps (like St. Louis), while other areas mostly see the stuff blow in.

    I can imagine radon belches (4 day half-life) jet streaming here from Japan.


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  • No, Craig. Netc.com alerts are both Gamma (5:) and Beta (4:), for everyone. Please correct your statements about Netc.com
    Harlan


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    • Nothing to correct, Harlan –that was a question.

      I wasn't sure how you meant to balance RadCon-5 alerts displayed on the RadNet beta public map to members' alerts –and didn't want to get too far afield in discussing same here. (Admittedly, I'd not been previously paying close attention to all the member alerts.)

      ** So let's make sure I understand it. A (reliable) RadNet gamma station RadCon-5 will go out to the members, AND it will appear on the public map –even though there was previously no mention of the gamma station in question on the public map –right?

      I'm in reference to your announcement at:

      > http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-april-30-2012-present/comment-page-57#comment-531691

      "Netc.com alerts are both Gamma (5:) and Beta (4:), for everyone."

      Hmmnnn: I think I've still got it wrong (–and I'm honestly _not_ trying to be dense –even if I am here).

      Craig


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  • Au Au

    Radcon 5 San Diego, CA. If you are a member, go have a look. Wow, what is going on there?


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  • Bungalow Phil

    Americium 241, 243m, 242m, are all in my opinion the most dastardly of the fission class actinides and isomers. Its not funny that they are disbursed in the environment via smoke detectors. The transmugenics and matasticies alone should set off alarms with those in the know. After researching 241AM I took care in removing the old one still hanging on a wall. Gloves, 95 mask, plastic bags etc. If the 19 yr. trans developed to Neptunium 237, then even at the uCi (37000)Bg quantity it is quite destructive to bio entities. Alpha, gamma are the prime radiated energies.
    Bye


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    • califnative califnative

      BP- you mentioned earlier about an EMF bombardment last weekend, I am sensitive to my environment and believe me I felt the periodic pulses they were emitting for what seemed like 3-4 days in a row. Currently I have WIFI (not by choice) and wonder if it only intensifies the frequency, was hearing infrequent high pitch noise in my ear drum and a few weeks ago experienced irregular heart beat or a subtle flutter which I've read can be caused by haarp scalar waves that are prevalent in the sky.

      One more unusual symptom that plagued me, I had a deep ache in my mid back area, right side which I think could be my liver, it lasted two days, wonder if my liver was doing some heavy filtering! Can't say why it happened just wanted to mention it because alasanon brought it up symptoms in L.A.


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      • Bungalow Phil

        Umm, not exactly. That which I was referring to is the magnetosphere and toroidial flux. In your case from what you have described it would correlate to dirty electricity. The smart meters and WIFI connection to those symptoms is well documented as well as the amplitude of AC wave functions. I have experienced that whinning pitch in my ears as well and find it troubling. It comes and goes. No doubt a specialist would tell a patient it is ear wax buildup. Good info on dirty elecricity is sammilham.com. Remediation can be accomplished thru his guidelines and many others.
        Namaste


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      • 52Rockwell 52Rockwell

        One word . Milk Thistle…ok 2 words :) also avocados.


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    • vital1

      Americium in smoke detectors is the decay daughter of plutonium. Great way to get rid this nuclear waste, and get paid for it.

      Watch this very informative video on why the fire safety experts consider Ionization Smoke Alarms in the home to be DEADLY, and an environmental hazard.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbymErJBw9c


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      • vital1

        If you take your Americium based smoke detector down you must replace it with an alternative. More info on smoke detectors here.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_detector

        Extract:

        "According to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), "photoelectric smoke detection is generally more responsive to fires that begin with a long period of smoldering (called smoldering fires)." Also, studies by Texas A&M and the NFPA cited by the City of Palo Alto California state, "Photoelectric alarms react slower to rapidly growing fires than ionization alarms, but laboratory and field tests have shown that photoelectric smoke alarms provide adequate warning for all types of fires and have been shown to be far less likely to be deactivated by occupants."


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        • vital1

          One of the very big issues with Americium based smoke detectors is that when they stop working or are no longer needed, people through them in land fills. Eventually this can lead to local ground water contamination.

          There should be better education, and strict rules regarding their disposal. It is as dangerous as Plutonium.

          In the shielded containment in the smoke detector it is not such a big issue. Once that shielded containment is breached, then you have a serious environmental and health issue.


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          • vital1

            Typo Correction,

            people throw them in land fills.


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          • Bungalow Phil

            Just as I remarked on a previous post it is ignorance of the dangers that allow the distribution into the environment. The guidelines maybe updated to reflect that hazard but the enforcement is lacking. I remarked that even in a fire whether the alarm worked or not it is still compromised if engulfed in flames. The fire safety folks are not aware, and if they are do not take it seriously. I pulled mine and tested for activity…183CPM! And this bad boy has been silently irradiating my home for years. I suspected it was hazardous for a time but did not take action until my research led me to it. Thanks to NETC and ENEnews I would not have been so inclined.


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  • califnative califnative

    Been a while since I posted my readings here from Tucson, AZ. Did random 5 min/30 min readings with Radex RD1212 uSv/hr gamma/beta/x-ray, outside balcony, 2nd floor, weather has been hotter than usual (yesterday 109), monsoon season too. For what it's worth this is what I have since 7-13-14:
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:30 0.12
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:35 0.11
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:40 0.13
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:45 0.16
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:50 0.12
    5 min 14.07.2014 12:55 0.13

    5 min 15.07.2014 07:26 0.10
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:31 0.14
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:36 0.12
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:41 0.13
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:46 0.13
    5 min 15.07.2014 07:51 0.10

    5 min 16.07.2014 07:18 0.14
    5 min 16.07.2014 07:23 0.12

    5 min 17.07.2014 05:26 0.12
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:31 0.11
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:36 0.14
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:41 0.13
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:46 0.14
    5 min 17.07.2014 05:51 0.10

    5 min 18.07.2014 07:39 0.10
    5 min 18.07.2014 07:44 0.10
    5 min 18.07.2014 07:49 0.12
    5 min 18.07.2014 07:54 0.13
    5 min 18.07.2014 07:59 0.13
    5 min 18.07.2014 08:04 0.11

    5 min 19.07.2014 16:41 0.12
    5 min 19.07.2014 16:46 0.12
    5 min 19.07.2014 16:51 0.14
    5 min 19.07.2014 16:56 0.13
    5 min 19.07.2014 17:01 0.10
    5 min 19.07.2014 17:06 0.13

    cont


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  • califnative califnative

    sorry for large list:
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:07 0.11
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:12 0.13
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:17 0.12
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:22 0.12
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:27 0.12
    5 min 22.07.2014 16:32 0.12

    5 min 23.07.2014 00:11 0.12
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:16 0.11
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:21 0.14
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:26 0.13
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:31 0.15
    5 min 23.07.2014 00:36 0.11


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  • VanneV VanneV

    List of RADCON-5 sites:
    5:717 near Springfield, MO, US 214 2014-07-23 13:35:00 A
    4:915 near San Diego, CA, US 23 2014-07-23 19:01:00 A

    List of RADCON-4 sites:
    5:213 near Rochester, NY, US 262 2014-07-23 17:07:00 G
    4:424 near Raleigh, NC, US 167 2014-07-23 08:50:00 G
    5:504 near Covington, KY, US 260 2014-07-23 17:00:00 G
    4:710 near Saint Louis, MO, US 187 2014-07-23 17:12:00 G
    5:710 near Saint Louis, MO, US 241 2014-07-23 17:12:00 G
    5:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 284 2014-07-23 18:25:00 G


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  • VanneV VanneV

    I think Denver is elevated.


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  • jec jec

    EPA sent me information for VA Beach and instructions to get more data, enjoy:
    Thank you for your response to the Envirofacts Warehouse Website. Envirofacts is an EPA program undergoing continual research and enhancement, so your feedback is greatly appreciated.

    You can use the RadNet Customized Search to obtain detailed information. From the Envirofacts website (http://www.epa.gov/enviro/), click on the RadNet Customized Search link http://www.epa.gov/enviro/facts/radnet/customized.html.
    In Step 1, click the Medialink, the Sampling Location link, and the Types of Radionuclides and Radiationlink, then click on the Step 2: Retrieve Tables for Selected Subjects button.
    On the STEP 2: Select Tables for Search page, click the 3 table checkboxes, then click on the Step 3: Select Columns button.
    On the STEP 3: Selection of Columns page, click to check the Media Name, Collection Start Date, Collection End Date, City Name, State Abbreviation, Result Amount, Result Unit and Analyte Name checkboxes, along with the checkboxes for any other information desired, then click the Step 4: Enter Search Criteria button.
    On the STEP 4: Enter Search Criteria and Organize the Output page under the Radionuclides/Radiation Searchsection , select Iodine-131 from the Analyte list. Enter 1 in the Sort order column for the Collection Start date row and the choose Descending in the Sort Order option list. (to see just the results for Virginia Beach enter the City name and State in the…


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    • jec jec

      and State in the geography section of the search. The attached file shows the results for VA Beach only)
      Then click on the Search Database button at the bottom of the page.

      (See attached file: 2-14-2014 VA Beach Iodine 131.xlsx)

      Repeating the steps above for Cesium-137 you will see that there is data as recent as December of 2013.

      For monitoring results as graphs updated several times daily please see EPA' RadNet data website http://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-data/index.html . This site provides results from stationary and deployable air monitors measuring radiation 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You can also search the RadNet database in EPA's Central Data Exchange (CDX) https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/query.do to find monitoring data.


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    • jec jec

      so here is the file on testing for IODINE..up to 1995…will check out the cesium per the suggestions from the email.
      V_ERAMS_MATRIX_SAMPLE_ANALYSIS.MAT_DESC V_ERAMS_MATRIX_SAMPLE_ANALYSIS.COLLECT_START V_ERAMS_MATRIX_SAMPLE_ANALYSIS.COLLECT_END V_ERAMS_LOCATION.CITY_NAME V_ERAMS_LOCATION.STATE_ABBR V_ERAMS_RESULTS_ANALYTE.RESULT_AMOUNT V_ERAMS_RESULTS_ANALYTE.RESULT_UNIT V_ERAMS_RESULTS_ANALYTE.ANALYTE_NAME
      Drinking water 1/3/1995 1/3/1995 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.065 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 10/3/1994 10/3/1994 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.083 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 4/6/1993 4/6/1993 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.09 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/17/1992 1/17/1992 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.07 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/3/1991 1/3/1991 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.01 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/3/1990 1/3/1990 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.23 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 10/20/1989 10/20/1989 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.09 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 10/26/1988 10/26/1988 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.1 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 10/14/1987 10/14/1987 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.003 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 8/13/1987 8/13/1987 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.43 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Air filter 6/2/1986 6/10/1986 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.003 PCI/M3 Iodine-131
      Air filter 5/23/1986 5/27/1986 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.013 PCI/M3 Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/2/1986 1/2/1986 VIRGINIA BEACH VA -0.02 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking water 1/7/1985 1/7/1985 VIRGINIA BEACH VA 0.04 PCI/L Iodine-131
      Drinking…


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      • jec jec

        EPA website has 404 ERRORS for on line links which I reported. And then found Cesium 137 in Virgina precip, up from ND in the 80s-90s or until Fukushima.
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-MAY-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00888 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-JUN-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 -0.0037 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-JUL-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00185 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-AUG-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 -0.00925 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-SEP-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00592 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-OCT-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.0133 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-NOV-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.0118 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-DEC-13 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 -0.00999 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-JAN-14 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 -0.0133 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-FEB-14 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00777 Bq/L
        LYNCHBURG, VA PRECIPITATION 15-MAR-14 Gamma-ray Spectrometry Cesium-137 0.00481 Bq/L

        Maximum of selected states is Cesium-137 0.381 Bq/L, wonder what state THAT was of the MAX, Guam was included….


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        • jec jec

          So then I try and GRAPH it from the website, fail! Needs a diff version of JAVA. This is certainly not created for the public..So updating with the latest and greated Java SE..now to see. I am a computer scientist with a patent for an internet search engine/interpreter..so not exactly a newbee to JAVA apps.


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    • jec jec

      Got report for the STATE OF VIRGINIA, request was for 2000-2014. Nothing since 2011, no testing I guess. Wonder what they are saving their dollars for? Note that Tritium is output by nuclear plants all over the area:
      Also, LYNCHBERG is not all of VA, its just the far west, most current test results. Note only shows up to 2011:
      Precipitation 12/15/2011 12/15/2011 LYNCHBURG VA 7 PCI/L Tritium

      Precipitation 11/15/2011 11/15/2011 LYNCHBURG VA 38 PCI/L Tritium

      Precipitation 9/15/2011 9/15/2011 LYNCHBURG VA 58 PCI/L Tritium


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      • norbu norbu

        High numbers down in Southern California

        436 CPM
        NETC.COM © 2014
        Station ID 5:915 San Diego, CA, US
        Click here for data charts
        CPM: current 436 Low 279 High 437
        Average 314, Deviation 14.9
        Last updated: 2014-07-24 07:06:00 GMT-0700
        Here is a good map to share

        Special Trajektorienkarten I got this link a few years ago from someone here. I check it 7 times a day, for the data is updated 7 times daily. I dont know if anyone has this, but here it is and enjoy you can go all the way back to that day 3-11-11 to current…..
        http://www2.wetter3.de/traj_spezial.html

        N


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  • Checkmate

    Regarding dirty furnace air filter- Thanks BP for the website on testing, but I have already disposed of the filter via the garbage- didn't know what else to do with it. Craig- thanks for the idea of radon, but the house was tested years ago and it was fine; no radon problem. Yes, the furnace filter is in the basement. I have an average reading of 395 cpms or 39.5 cpms per minute of background for the past year on using an Inspector Alert. I never had a reading above 60 cpm on a current reading except once last Oct., 2013 of 1,500 cpm at current readings, not a ten minute reading. I had a previous furnace filter tested by K4 labs in TX and that filter read 66 cpms with a 31 cpm back ground- indicating a little over 2x background. They said they did not test for anything specific. Of course, I do not know the lab as they said it wasn't bad and more towards being a normal reading and not anywhere near comparison as to other parts of the country. But again I did not do the test before hand, thus I don't know if it is correct.
    I am beginning to think this last filter may have been built in Japan. Being completely new and clean, the filter may have been radioactive from the start or at least the metal used in it was active. Any thought on this???


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    • * The rapid rate of decay indicates you were mostly dealing with newly (and very recently) captured radioactive dust. Had you done a reading two days later, it would be interesting to see how close it would have been to background.

      * Since it has the earmark of radon, since the CPMs were crazy high (I try not to be an "alarmist"), and since you live there, best get to the bottom of it. At least keep tabs on what the new filter is telling you –and note the weather/environmental conditions.

      * Weather, rain, furnace operation –even something so simple as an open upstairs window or wind passing over your house can make a dramatic difference in radon levels.

      * IF (if) it's something blowing in on you, keeping a record of wind and direction might tell you from whence it came –and maybe someone's or RadNet's monitoring up-wind will correlate with yours.

      Craig


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  • Checkmate

    Thanks Craig for advise and info, I will certainly check on it and post it….


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  • New comments at the General forum are posting as a reply to combomelt's entry.

    So "General Nuclear Issues" joins "Alternative Energy" as a dysfunctional forum.

    Craig


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  • I think our 2 *guests* must be jamming the site, hacking…worse today.

    And I just now found the high San Diego readings. Yipes. Gotta call my daughter there.


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  • vital1

    U.S. Radiation Report 24 July 2014 by EnviroReporter.

    EnviroReporter.com analyzes the beta and gamma graphs it has organized from the United States Environmental Protection Agency's RadNet system of 123 radiation detecting sites across the nation. This exclusive analysis uses the best radiation readings in America. Michael Collins makes it easy to understand the current state of how hot, or not, it is radiation-wise across the country.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6nf22rcPMY


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