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Northern California- we are getting spikes all day over 100 cpm. 10 minute counts average 33.67 cpm. very dry here.
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For those new to this forum here are a free Geiger Counter, and DIY food testing lab guide.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contamination.pdf
DIY Food testing lab set up free guide, first draft. The next planed update to this guide will be an isotope Kev identification table.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/How-to-set-up-a-home-or-community-food-testing-lab-for-radioactive-contamination.pdf
If you have any suggestions or additions to improve either guide, please
post suggestion into this forum.
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ALERT: Over 1000 CPM Radioactivity Reported In Charleston, SC
http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/2012/08/alert-over-1000-cpm-radioactivity.html
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Radiation spiked shapely at Meitokukan nursery in Fukushima
Steam is apparently rising…
Daily average: 13.738 mcSv/h (0.086 mcSv/h ~ 520.922 mcSv/h) (193.5 times more than the normal value)
Current value: 624.757 mcSv/h (2012/08.01 18:40)
Normal value: 0.0037 mcSv/h ~ 0.071 mcSv/h
Unacceptable radiation level for nursery.
http://twitter.com/our0125/status/230785611840241664/photo/1
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That is a huge detection and increase, every man, women and child should be evacuated!
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72.6 CPM Highest readings I have gotten since I started doing readings in May 2012.
Illinois, USA
30-35 miles South-West of Chicago
August 2, 2012
Inspector Extreme Geiger Counter
For Reference: 100 CPM (Counts Per Minute) is an Alert Level
43.0 CPM at 9:55 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count.
(Previous CPM were: 32.4 in May & 37.4 in June, 43.4 on July 2nd, 47.1 on July 13th, 44.0 July 15th)
Inside house at Kitchen table windows and doors closed.
63.7 CPM at 10: 10 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count.
(HIGHEST I HAVE RECORDED OUTSIDE AT TABLE)
(Previous CPM were: 39.8 in May, 57.9 in June, 54.0 on July 2nd, 61.1 on July 13th, 59.1 July 15th, 59.1 July 24th)
Outside on Picnic table
72.6 CPM at 10:25 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count.
(HIGHEST I HAVE RECORDED OUTSIDE ON GROUND)
(Previous CPM were: 51.0 in June, 52.9 on July 2nd, 58.3 on July 13th, 60.5 July 15th)
Outside at ground level on grass in yard
Other Previous Counts:
42.3 CPM at 6:44 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count on July 24th 2012.
Inside house at screen door, storm front, pre-rain, high winds with gusts in area around 60mph.
53.2 CPM at 6:50 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count on July 24th 2012.
Inside house at screen door, during rain, fast moving storm & after first burst of rain.
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Forgot to update the times on my post all readings just taken within the last hour between 6:30 pm and 7:15 pm.
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Earlier in Oklahoma.
August 2, 2012 at 9:55 am ·
Oklahoma high 80's cpm several hours ago on Radiation Network.
(was) Still showing higher than normal.
(last night) Heavy rains in OK overnight. Still raining too.
Seems consistent.
No 'alert' status until it holds 100 or above. That day is probably coming soon. hmm…? I just realized that.
Will we be told the truth or will it be the same line… "of no immediate concern".
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From yesterday, August 1st. Vancouver, at basic waist level using SOEKS 01m average .15µSv/hr outside, somewhat higher then my usual .11 Could be attributed to a hot sunny day.
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Testing food with a Geiger counter overview
CLICK>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIKro3s6eU4&feature=related
Sorry if I put this in the wrong area
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Dying to exercise…
During the summer holiday, children wakes up early in the morning to attend exercise… the attendance card which hangs from their neck gets stamped as a proof of attendance. So many parents are allowing their children to get sick… Do they know the ground measures 120,000 Bq/m2?
Koriyama-city, Fukushima
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAFVpFVhMtQ
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GlowInTheDark,
Very sad, what is the world coming to?
You need to do your best to inform the people in charge of these children. Show them your detections, and explain it is a dangerous environment.
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You are tellin' me vital1
It's not my video btw. I gave up on tellin' Japanese how dangerous the situation is because all I get from people from my country(!) does my head in…. so I stop doing it. They tell me that I am spreading lies blah blah blah. So I switched and I wanted to tell YOU guys because if I don't pick up these little pieces you won't know because it's not the sort of things that gets picked up by the MSM. They only want news worthy explosions!!
But it is country's disease, mentality.
I was fed with poisons when I was child e.g. flouride for teeth, plenty of vaccines and injections…was told all good etc BS! So I guess feeding children with radiation is just another. A lot of mental problems bubbling under the surface of the country that looks neat and unique. I just can't take the mentality, madness and false front.
Realised that we can only help ourselves.
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GlowInTheDark,
I know what you mean. I have had success here in getting the message across on how serious this situation is. There are still a lot of people who still have no idea. Some will never understand no mater how hard you try to get the message across until it is to late for them.
We all try to get the message out there as best we can. I feel all this effort by everyone here is saving peoples lives. So what if you upset a few people along the way, this is about the survival of all life on this planet.
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ah, I don't care if some gets upset though. It just that I don't have a tick skin to combat negativity thrown to me on daily basis, part of joy brainwashed in Japan(!) as having no voice.
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Dear GlowInTheDark,
If I might ask, where are you?
I'm so glad you post here at ENENews. Use your voice here with us
I've spent most of the day crying because my dear friend's son & his wife left yesterday to return to their home in Koriyama/Fukushima.
She (Japanese) wants to move to the U.S. so bad, but he (American) is very yo-yo (unbelievable, yet understandable) because he loves Japan, and of all things, teaches children at a school there. He is a delightful person but suffers from a severe case of 'disconnect'.
My heart goes out to you. I hear your frustration and resolve. Keep your wonderful posts coming!
Please take care. You are making a difference!
Aloha.
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@andagi
Thank you for your encouragement.
I am sorry to hear about your Japanese friend. I feel your pain. Koriyama is one of the most contaminated parts of Fukushima. Has her husband seen the video of radiation measurements taken in Koriyama? It would be shame if 3 months down the line, they show the sign of radiation sickness and her husband might just start to think that may be going to Japan wasn't so good idea. With all that burning of radioactive wastes and from contaminated food & water, it is sure that they will be affected by internal radiation poisoning…. I do not understand how he cannot understand it!? All he has to do is to read other mothers who are speaking about what happened to their children or neighbour who have dropdead, unreasonable increase in the number of acute leuckemia case or people who can't get rid of nasty cough for months etc I guess everyone has to decide for themselves. Let's hope they will change their mind soon.
I live in an open prison… cctv capital of the world. http://www.cctv.co.uk/how-many-cctv-cameras-are-there-in-london/
My brother went to Hawaii for his honeymoon. I've only seen beautiful Hawaii on youtube
Sadly, I doubt I'll go to US again…
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Dear GlowInTheDark,
Thank you for your sincere response.
I try and try to understand the sociological complexities in Japan. There are international crisis management specialists, medical teams and I'm sure, engineers who can help.
I don't understand why this isn't happening. I don't understand the past 21 months. I don't understand people's prejudice against evacuated persons. I don't understand my friend's son and his wife.
My heart truly goes out to you. I grieve especially for lovely, innocent children.
Would you leave Japan if you had an opportunity? It truly is a beautiful and unique country/culture. My heart aches today.
Keep posting here with us
Aloha.
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@andagi
I can understand it's difficult for non-Japanese person to understand how the Japanese society works unless you had a chance to get a close look at their life by living there. It's just the way it is though. I guess it's group mentality that controls the society and therefore you cannot really be an individual. One must wear the same type of clothes, hair style etc that kind of trend thing. It starts as early as at nursery. Every child has a lunchbox with same cartoon character etc so it's imbeded deeply into their subconscious and they understand that is the normal way of life otherwise, you're an outsider and get bullied. Weak and vulnerable are treated very poorly. That continues into adulthood. eg. prejudice against evacuation Basically, many wrong and unhealthy mindset. The main thing is that the surface must be pleasant. If I had young children I'd definitely move away. I've a slight advantage to be able to say that though, once your life has been yanked away it gets easier next time as you've been there before. I think some are still under the illusion that the contamination isn't happening. Some just don't want to get out of the comfortable life. But beggers can't be choosers. Desparate situation.
Yes, Japan was beautiful and love the old rich culture etc So far, no major improvements have been made. May be the fake cover on top of the Unit 1. And contamination is just getting worse and worse e.g. burning debris, non-stop release of radiation…
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Illinois, USA
30-35 miles South-West of Chicago
August 4, 2012
Inspector Extreme Geiger Counter
For Reference: 100 CPM (Counts Per Minute) is an Alert Level
CAPITALIZED date indicates highest reading.
38.8 CPM at 10:45 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count.
Previous CPM were: 32.4 in May & 37.4 in June, 43.4 on July 2nd, 47.1 on JULY 13TH, 44.0 July 15th, 43.0 Aug 2nd)
Inside house at Kitchen table windows and doors closed.
61.0 CPM at 11:00 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count.
(Previous CPM were: 39.8 in May, 57.9 in June, 54.0 on July 2nd, 61.1 on July 13th, 59.1 July 15th, 59.1 July 24th, 63.7 AUG. 2ND)
Outside on Picnic table
64.0 CPM at 11:20 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count.
(Previous CPM were: 51.0 in June, 52.9 on July 2nd, 58.3 on July 13th, 60.5 July 15th, 72.6 AUG. 2ND)
Outside at ground level on grass in yard
Other Previous Counts:
42.3 CPM at 6:44 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count on July 24th 2012.
Inside house at screen door, storm front, pre-rain, high winds with gusts in area around 60mph.
53.2 CPM at 6:50 am, taken from a 10 minute timed count on July 24th 2012.
Inside house at screen door, during rain, fast moving storm & after first burst of rain.
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london radiation update 20.20 hrs bst
average about 40 cpm and 0.12 mcSv/h
range 0.08 to 0.19 mcSv/h
obviously the pollution that has been hitting london looks more like it is from LaHague
lots of activity on the readings the numbers jump up and down quite quickly as the wind has calmed and the damp dries..
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I tested 1 kg of Zeolite with a scintillator in a lead and copper lined test
chamber. The test shows that it has radioactive lead and Bismuth Isotopes in it. Most soils do, these are created from uranium and thorium decay, in most soils.
People are taking Zeolite to remove radioactivity from their bodies when it has it in it already. OK, they only take a small amount at a time, so maybe it doesn't matter? The second green marker in the chart, marks the largest peak for Lead 214.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Zeolite-1kg-050812-64-13.jpg
It is less radioactive than the Bentonite clay that I tested. If you look at the red highlighted peaks in the Bentonite clay chart, these peaks indicate the presence of radioactive lead. See test chart.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/bentonite-clay-625grm-210512-text.jpg
There are a lots of questions to be answered here.
Is it a risk or an advantage to take these substances internally?
Do they actually remove radioactive contamination from a persons body?
Are the radioactive isotopes in them being absorbed when they pass through the digestive system?
It is generally agreed that consuming radioactive, or stable lead is not a good thing!
There is a big difference between using these items as a mud pack, and ingesting them.
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This type of testing only shows the radioactive isotopes that emit Gamma
radiation in the samples. There may be stable lead and other heavy metal
contamination also present.
The big question, is it safe to take these substances internally?
After testing, I personally would not ingest these substances without a lot of further research, showing that they are actually doing something positive.
These items need further testing by others with this sort of equipment,to
verify this. Note, samples mined from different locations may test
differently.
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DIY Food testing lab set up free guide, first draft. The next planed update to this guide will be an isotope Kev identification table.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/How-to-set-up-a-home-or-community-food-testing-lab-for-radioactive-contamination.pdf
If you have any suggestions or additions to improve either guide, please
post suggestion into this forum.
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Thanks for the info vital1.
"There is a big difference between using these items as a mud pack, and ingesting them."
"samples mined from different locations may test
differently."
I agree with you.
But Prof. Busby recommends Bentonite clay so there must be something that he thinks it's OK. I can't imagine he's not aware of Ur or Pb in soil. It could be that the ion traps it therefore they are not released in the body? But I read, in case of filtering water, that it starts to impart cesium at satulating point so filtre must be changed at certain point.
From my experience of taking them, it does make your skin baby soft almost immediately (e.g. next day) and other noticeable improvement to health so it must still do something good.
May be regular clay drinker should test for heavy metal testing (e.g. Pb or Ur in hair sample) to see if these heavy metals are absorbed into the body.
What about other food in your neck of the woods?
Do you find that many items are radioactive?
Could the Pb comes from your background? I guess that depends on how thick your testing lead chamber is and how well insulated etc…
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GlowInTheDark,
I have tested lots of food items here in Australia. I have the equipment testing 24/7. So far all have tested clean except for Brazil nuts. I class Zeolite, and Bentonite clay as tonics not food.
Radioactive isotopes found in Brazil nuts. See test chart.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Brazil-nuts-250712-63.534-12-1.jpg
The chart shows radioactive lead isotopes are present. The second green peak marker in the chart is at 241 keV and other peaks at 295, 351, are the markers for radioactive lead. Then the other largest peak is for Bismuth 214 at 609 etc. The large blue coloured peak is the secondary X-rays, a product of a test chamber not being lined with copper and the smaller blue coloured peak is Potassium K40 found in all living things.
I was under the impression until I tested them, that the higher radioactivity in Brazil nuts was just caused by the extra concentration of natural occurring K40 in them like a Banana. It appears that it has been known for a long time that they also contained radioactive Lead and Bismuth.
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Link provided by enenews member aigeezer in reference to this subject.
http://www.ehow.com/about_5382624_dangers-brazil-nuts.html
Quote,
"It's believed Brazil nuts have 1,000 times more radium than the next most radioactive food. While extensive studies have yet to be conducted, the amount of radiation in a Brazil nut is still small when compared to radiation encountered in everyday life, and it's not believed to pose any serious health risk, regardless of the quantities ingested."
If I can detect radioactive Lead and Bismuth in Brazil nuts it also suggests there must also be levels of stable lead also present. Personal choice, I have taken Brazil nuts off my diet. If I had detected this isotopes at these levels in any other food I would do the same.
Brazil nuts need further testing by others with this sort of equipment, to verify this. Note, samples harvested from different locations may test differently.
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It appears Brazil nut trees are bio-accumulating the naturally occurring radioactive radium that can be found in most soils, because of their very deep root systems.
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hi vital
on your point on finding
" Lead and Bismuth"
isnt bismuth a very short lived isotope? is this a daughter of radium that you captured being formed?
or is it contamination from degrading airborne radon effecting the reading?
cool set up bro!
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Arcligh,
"Is it contamination from degrading airborne radon effecting the reading?"
If that was the case I would see traces of them in all the tests.
Here is a chart of Uranite I used for calibration kindly loaned to me by enenews member Spectrometising.
It is most commonly known as pitchblende. It is very radioactive.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Uranite-Calibration-050812-61.752-211.jpg
As you can see it has peaks positioned in the same locations as the Zeolite, Bentonite Clay, and Brazil nut tests. These isotope peaks are created by the decay of Uranium and Thorium in soil. Most soils will have these peaks at the same location when tested but individual peaks may vary in high depending on the age, water content, organic content, and other mineral composition etc.
There are usually only very tiny amounts of Uranium and Thorium in most soil samples.
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many thanks for the reply vital..
and the explantaion..
peace
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Good to hear you have tested many food that are clean. I shall be buying stuff from Australia then
I've never been keen on Brazillian nuts and have avoided because of high radioactive issues. When you say 'isotopes at these levels', do you work out how much Bq/kg based on the counts or do you just go by the spectrum peaks (missing or not)? I hear that temperature change could be tricky as it throws off the calibration and you could get a false peak reading particularly around early part of 600keV which could be crucial.
Thanks for your input vital1.
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It is winter here, and I do have to recalibrate the equipment if the temperature changes to much. I keep the control box covered to help keep things stable.
Each peak represents the energy signature of a specific isotope.
Yes, Becquerel estimates can be calculated from the charted information. If you know the efficiency of your scintillator and the number of counts/time and weight of the sample. Because there are multiple peaks in these charts it would need to be done for each peak individually.
At present I have taken the attitude that it is off the family food list if it shows any noticeable isotopic peaks above test chamber background.
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Thank you vital1!!
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@vital1..thanks for these posts. I was wondering about this subject.
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found a THREE HEADED SUNFLOWER here in a patch of more-mutated-then-not sunflowers in oakland — the folks at KI$U said they would take a look at it & i was thinking it would be a good idea to ask if anyone had advice — should i send the whole thing? (i have the head, or perhaps i should say heads) (it is really heavy) or just part? etc.
i took video before i cut it and will post to youtube.
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well i suppose i should ask them — but any/all other advice would be helpful….
thats "KI4U" not KI$U
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a female faust
Send them the entire plant, including the deep root of the plant if you can.
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london radiation update 06,00 hrs bst
range 0.08 to 0.19 mcSv/h
average in CPM 42
average 0.12 mcSv/h
on a ten minute average
west london, light wind gusts dry sunny
likely to be slightjy higher nearer london central
there is something radioactive in the air still
intersetingly the gurdian mentions the near escape of the ozone pollution to the start of the olympics.. lol!
but doesnt mention the PM10 particulates that measured 10 out of 10??
latest from the 24 to the 27th july 2012
http://www.londonair.org.uk/london/asp/PublicEpisodes.asp
Pollutionwatch: London's ozone level cleared just before Olympic start
Gary Fuller
guardian.co.uk, Sunday 5 August 2012
"..During the week leading up to the Olympic Games, London experienced its worst ozone episode for six years. Fortunately fresh westerly winds began to clear London's air pollution just before the opening ceremony…"
old gary NEARLY got close with this though…!
"..High concentrations of ozone affected Dorset and Northampton on the 26th and extended over Devon on the 27th. Problems with ozone also reached Bristol and north to the Midlands and Manchester. Similar pollution concentrations were measured across northern France, Belgium, the Netherlands and parts of Germany…."
but he didnt mention where the winds were coming from .. la hague waste reprossesing??
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/aug/05/pollutionwatch-ozone-london-olympics?newsfeed=true
shoould…
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london olympic radioactive rain and Prof C Busby says enough is enough! 6 august 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t46s-1rGOYw
lol!
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Accelerating!
"The radioactivity releases to the planet in the last 50 years, from global weapons fallout ,accidents (Chernobyl, Fukushima) and plain everyday releases from nuclear plants and reprocessing plants under licence are destroying the integrity of life on earth. Increases in all disease rates, increases in cancer, death of species, includings humans with infertility, are accelerating."
– nuclearjustice.org
http://nuclearjustice.org/?page_id=13
NuclearJustice.org mentioned in the C. Busby video above.
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Thanks very much for the video upload arclight.
err…slight problem with the petition form!?
I have a feeling that where it says <COUNTRY> must be filled in with whichever country you live in? It's in PDF…..arrrgh.
Also on p.5, <NAME>…national competent authority….who would that be!?
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I don't mind spreading the link & the form but the ones that I'm going to send are not die-hard nuke activists so I doubt they will know which agency is the 'correct' national competent authority.
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IMHO there are no 'competent authorities' because they are all corrupt! But I guess I have to fill in the name of supposedly 'competent authority'…
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hi glow in the dark
i am going to break it down into simple links..
i think that he is asking for registered post thus you print off the pdf.. just to make sure that the parties recieve the form.. and email busby on the website to confirm form sent, so he can keep an eye on the actual amount sent to stop any loss of documents etc..
the website is a bit complicated and the info is chucked in there.. i have just been posting the link and will investigate other options for submitting the form.. its getting late now.. thanks for the feedback..
be back on it tommorrow!
peace
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I don't know if Tipexed <COUNTRY> <NAME> on the petition form is a good thing… it might invalidate the form or something…just thinkin'
ah, it's about time I should beam myself across, the day is only beginning on the other dimension
sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite your fu…furr.
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gnight glowy
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Just wanted to let you know that in Hamburg Germany I measure slightly higher then usual radiation since june. First I thought of a spike only, went on holiday, but now after my return two month later this seems to be the new "normal". I never see 17-20 cpm again, Now it is always between 21 and 28 cpm (measured over one hour).
Here is a graph of my 24-hours-averages. They are not so high but remember they are averages over a whole day. All possible spikes are leveled out. I find them useful to see a trend. And when I look at my older geiger (red curve) that I trust, then the last weeks look more or less then the last autumn. Then we had a better springtime with lower overall levels, and now the spikes are back. Even if these values are low all together, I think they show when something is going on. Please see for yourself:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3741/strahlung151011060812.png
This is 15.October 2011 until today. Measured indoors, beta and gamma, always the same place.
The green line is a newer model of the same geiger. I dont trust that one. It reacts on nothing. Always shows the same low numbers.
For what its worth. Just wanted to share this with you.
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Sorry, I meant LIKE the last autumn.
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Arclight, been looking at your recent radiation postings.
Thought I'd let you know that Penly NPP, on the Northern coast of France, only 68 miles from the Sussex coast has had a couple of recent unplanned outages.
PARIS, July 26
(Reuters) – EDF's 1,300-MW Penly 1 nuclear reactor stopped for an unplanned outage at 1430 GMT on Thursday, French power grid RTE showed on its website. RTE did not give a cause for the outage nor a planned restart date.
Aug 6 (Reuters) – EDF stopped its 1,300-MW Penly 2 nuclear reactor at 0500 GMT on Monday during a failed restart process from a planned outage, an EDF spokesman said.
The plant, which was stopped on April 5 for an unplanned outage, is now expected to restart in the next few hours, the spokesman added.
He earlier said the reactor would restart by mid-week.
The reactor 2 had restarted by 0400 GMT on August 6 but failed by 0500 GMT, the French power grid RTE showed.
Wind-wise, could be quite likely for London contamination.
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Less likely, the unplanned outage at Dungeness.
LONDON, Aug 6 (Reuters) – The UK's 550 megawatt Dungeness B21 nuclear power station went off the grid in an unplanned shutdown during the early morning hours of Saturday, operator EDF Energy said on Monday in a statement.
"EDF Energy can confirm that Unit (Berlin: UN7.BE – news) 21 at Dungeness B power station came off-line at 01.30 hours on Saturday morning. This was an automatic, unplanned shutdown," a spokesman said in a statement.
The company said the reactor had been safely shutdown and that investigative work was underway to identify the exact cause of the problem and carry out any necessary repairs.
EDF Energy did not say when it expected the facility to return to the grid.
Dungeness B21 was only returned to the grid on August 3 after being taken off-line on Friday, 20 July, for planned off-load refueling.
Lots of unplanned outages in France this week… cough,cough.
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that was really useful sue! thank you!
peace
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new foods in japan and abroad showing contamination…..
http://www.simplyinfo.org/?p=7039
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Thanks mungo!
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Arclight, from your above post several days ago you said .12 was about 42 cpm. So can I say as per below results that .11 or .12 average, similar to you I have aprox 40 cpm here in Canada?
Today, 1/2 hour count, Vancouver area, south east of van on fraser river using Soeks 01M sitting on dash of stationary car with windows open. Yellow bar filled throughout. low of .07 µSv/hr to high of .15 µSv/hr
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hi mark
that would be about right 0.11 mcSv/h is about 40 cpm 36 cpm is about 0.10 mcSv/h
gbjght!
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Arclight, Cheers and Thanks. What changed? I feel I missed something as there were lengthy discussions about cpm vs µSv/hr on this page before with no resolution. Anyways trying my best to meld British and Canadian traditions today by drinking traditional British Imperial Pints of Canadian brand beer. But BC tradition requires the addition of the BC Bud. Oh Well.
Still Bravely Carrying On, Mark
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225, Gross Beta Count Rate in Denver, CO
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/12/realtime-epa-radnet-japan-nuclear-radiation-monitoring-every-us-city-single-page-16511/
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1. HOT Rain Swipe 91 x St. Louis MO – potrblog
Published on Aug 8, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icawRaZwXb0&feature=youtu.be
2. Southern California, EnviroReporter
Published on Aug 6, 2012
Hepa Filter Reading also reading HOT!
L.A Air Radiation Doubles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vEDu4879KI&feature=player_embedded
3. Observation: today
Additionally, general reports on the EnviroReporter comments page show increased rain readings elsewhere. Pretty much nation wide.
hmmm…(?)
http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/09/radiation-conversation/
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Took you all on vacation with me this time!
Saugatuck, Michigan USA
On the Eastern coastline of Lake Michigan
August 10th, 2012
Inspector Extreme Geiger Counter
For Reference: 100 CPM (Counts Per Minute) is an Alert Level
33.6 CPM at 12:30 pm, taken from a 10 minute timed count on Aug 9th 2012.
Inside house at Kitchen Table
27.8 CPM at 1:30 pm, taken from a 10 minute timed count on Aug 9th 2012.
Car ride encircling town of Saugatuck, MI
26.0 CPM at 2:00 pm, taken from a 10 minute timed count on Aug 9th 2012.
Top of Mt. Bald Head Saugatuck, MI
(302 steps up the staircase to the top of Mt. Bald Head, got my workout in that day.)
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AH HOME SWEET HOME
and so is the message.. anti nukes unite!
just a quick heads up
we have got a link on http://www.nuclear-news.net for the rad forum!
its an australian based web site that also caters for the usa..
christine macpherson that runs the site has been running enenews headlines too! and i put a link to a video that covers the headlines,
enenews is spreading!
well done admin!
update on the oilympics brought to you by DOW chemicals…
quick note
black cabs have been oilympicsised with white, olympic rings and logos..
the DOW logo is prominent on the back screen of the cabs..
i surveyed the cabbies and it turns out that the cabs are contract vehicles (hired) and the cabbie gets nothing…
i had to ask them the question as part of my survey..
have any indian customers mentioned the DOW logo? the cabbies generally gave a resigned "i know" look except for 1 cabbie who called me a c&*t!
results of survey
it is bad form given the large indian population and the pakistani community would largely have sympathy as well.. boris johnson and his corporate cronies are knobs, to put it politely…
inconsiderate to be more exact..
11.00 hrs bst clearish sky, warm, still air and the rads are hotting up!
44 CPM or 0.14 mcSv/h average
regular strong surges
winds from belgium/france in a circulating pattern that will break up on saturday bringing winds direct from ne europe
cont
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http://magicseaweed.com/UK-Ireland-MSW-Surf-Charts/1/?imageScale=wind&size=750&chartType=WMAG&zeroHourTimestamp=1344556800&endTimestamp=1345161600&gc=off&gcSpot=&gcWave=1&gcPeriod=9
heres a graph showing a huge release
BE55700 – La Calamine (Belgium)
at 19.00 hrs cet
20000000000 nanosieverts/h
http://eurdepweb.jrc.ec.europa.eu/PublicEurdepMap/TimeSeries.aspx?loc=648&end=201208102210&int=D1&rad=1&test=0
and no other monitor is showing and the winds are heading south and east from begium??
they have all the monitors pinned down i suspect..
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no eurdep for germany or italy today…..
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http://www.radiationnetwork.com/index.htm 82cpm and rising in VA, USA
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Now at 84 cpm.
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****** UPDATE ******
I don't want to worry anyone so I wanted to make sure you knew:
1. I am now 90+% sure I am dealing with low level naturally occurring radioactive material (NORM), which means that the plaster probably has a little uranium or thorium in it. This is VERY common. My house brick is over 120 CPM at contact, and some of you might recall a video I posted showing the gamma spectrum. This behaves the same way.
2. I am going offline tonight after work for careful analysis of my hotel room. I don't want the goofy helicopters in formation, MIB, etc stories (remember the Alabama false alarm and all of the goofy stories which were concocted by folks afterword?) so I am letting everyone know hours in advance. =)
=) remember… 100 CPM is one fifth the counts I get from a tiny bottle of potassium salt… not much.
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There has been discussion about that in the radiation network chat space. Long story short, it's a hotel room ceiling. Look at your chat log if you're a radiation network member.
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Hello,
I am indeed in a radioactive hotel. lol 80-100 CPM on my pancake tube is not much to write home about. I am amazed that you folks even noticed. It seems to be the plaster in my room's ceiling.
Plaster is often filled with naturally occurring radioactive material, such as uranium or thorium. I might take a sample to test later and see…
I'll post a view next week.
But nothing sinister. Outside of the hotel the readings are quite normal (20-40 cpm).
I am surprised that I have not caused an alert on radiation network yet… but if I do, it would be the goofy plaster. =)
Remember: Test Everything!
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hi antiproton
did you perchance see the slight spike on the monitor above?? from belgium.. as there is a problem at doel, would this be an actual reading or a break.. recently other monitors in luxemborg have been showing up to 1 microsieverts peaks.. just wanted your opinion on this.. peace
london uk reading 28 to 70 cpm
winds from the east (belgium)
aveage around 42 cpm or 0.12 mcSv/h
with 0.20 mcSv/h peaks
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Sorry Arclight but I have been so heads down in my current project for work that I didn't even hear about the recent major news stories…
Actual leaks can cause actual readings. For sure!
But, it does take alot and most of what we detect is background from space. In my current case, if I leave my hotel, the reads drop to normal.
From what I have quickly read (not enough to have an opinion, not that mine would be expert in anyway [I am an amateur]) the steel secondary housing has failures from "radiation damage". I assume they mean that neutron capture has changed the elements and caused chemical cohesion, but that is a guess.
This might be a good thing… from this the existence of this flaw in this sort of housing is known… normally, we wait for a meltdown before we learn of a defect.
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thanks for the reply antprotons,,
glad to hear your busy!
just a quick note to concour on the radioactive brick comment above.. ive noticed that too..
i bet there storing nuke waste in them..
and make sure you check the roof lichen out for cesium too! be careful clambering out on that roof!
but im sure you thought of that..
if i had a hotel i might be a bit concerned about a geezer ripping down my cielings and scraping stuff of my roof though..
lol!
pirate monitoring.. go antiprotons go!
cant wait for the video..
hope its one of them corporate hotels and not some little old ladies ;(
peace
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425, Gross Beta Count Rate in Denver, CO
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/12/realtime-epa-radnet-japan-nuclear-radiation-monitoring-every-us-city-single-page-16511/
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750, Gross Beta Count Rate in Harrisonburg, VA
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/12/realtime-epa-radnet-japan-nuclear-radiation-monitoring-every-us-city-single-page-16511/
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Hello group,
I have been on here since April of 2011 but rarely post. I just purchased an Atomic Dave pancake tube geiger and am doing some 10 minute counts here and there. I live in WA state about 10 miles from the Hanford Reservation and Columbia Generating Station (nuke plant). So far today I have an indoor above ground reading of about 38 cpm and about .13 microseiverts/h and an outdoor about 2 feet above the ground reading of about 52 cpm. It is very dry here at this current time. I took a reading an inch above my carpet, and it was about 58-60 cpm and .18 micro/h. Anyway, looking forward to posting readings now and then!
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WorseThanChernobyl,
Welcome, thanks for taking the time to collect and post your info here.
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Radiation network has taken down the monitor in VA that was showing high readings (84 cpm was the highest that I saw.)
http://radiationnetwork.com/
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Anne,
Yes, I saw other high readings on Radiation network. One at 75cpm on the east coast. Also some detections across central USA in the 50 and 60 cpm range around the same time. All gone now.
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Yes, you scared them anne. It was probably more like 1750 CPM instead of Sadnet's 700-plus readings lately (which is still highly embarrassing at 25 times normal background radiation levels).
Amarillo has been offline for a longtime now and it routinely hit 700 up to 1,000.
The closest one to me is San Angelo and it is running 350 CPM or ten times normal levels.
Not that I trust anything they post since I caught them lying last August with fake data posted online for VA that they posted after the Great Eastern American Earthquake. They posted fake data three hours before the actual time. Look back in the Enenews archives and you will see the proof.
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well the day of the end of the corporate oilympics
i believe there is a 3 week wait for the less corporate disabled olympics.. intend to see some of that! soon as the pfizer representitives go back to wherever they come from.. means the disabled olympics will be very important to support this year.. the bhopal alternative olympics with the victims of the tragedy as the athletes was moving and will be enhanced by the earlier protest olympics.. hope you support these super athletes and their brothers from bhopal../rant
last oilympic rad reading..
today a drop.. with very slight pollution clouds giving a maximum of 0.16 mcSv/h in chelsea at lunchtime but it was a quick high..
average in west london is 0.10 mcSv/h
inside london average 0.12 mcSv/h
but the lows got down to 0.05 mcSv/h with a nice breezy wind..
so far so good.. the guardian can NOW report the pollution is moderate without lying.. imo
peace
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**Nuclear "Event" on Sunday, 12 August, 2012 at 04:12 (04:12 AM) UTC in TENNESSEE** Watts Bar Nuclear Power Plant
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_summary&edis_id=NC-20120812-36142-USA
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Thanks LL. Here's from the description tab:
"TVA says an unusual event at the Watts Bar nuclear plant forced its evacuation this morning. Spokesman Mike Bradley says an ammonia-water leak developed in a secondary water system at the turbine building at the plant. That happened just before 9:00am. Between two and three hundred employees were evacuated as a result. The leak was fixed and the event was declared over just before 1:30pm this afternoon. Bradley says the leak did not disrupt the reactor. There were no injuries and there was no risk to the general public."
SP: Oh i think there was risk. Leaving another of Pandora's Boxes unattended even for a minute is unsafe.
So now we know one of the collateral events that occurs at nuclear plants dangerous to humans. You think they did a phone notification of nearby residents? Not likely.
This is the utility corporation that the NRC wants to burn up plutonium (MOX). After the super hot fuel distorted the control rod guide tubes and scared the crap out of Duke Energy in their MOX trial in 2007-2008. Looking for another willing accomplice to kill the human race.
BTW… Areva is the helpful supplier of MOX upgrades to the US plants:
http://www.heraldonline.com/2008/08/05/726267/duke-halts-mox-testing-at-catawba.html
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More followup on Watts Bar NPP concerning their nuclear reactor currently under construction:
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/feb/17/work-watts-bar-nuclear-plants-second-reactor-behin/
published Friday, February 17th, 2012
Work on Watts Bar Nuclear Plant’s second reactor behind schedule and over budget
"Watts Bar has much less work space…The 3,200 contract workers on board early last year at Watts Bar literally were too cramped to work, officials have said. By December, TVA had dropped the number of contractors to 2,077.
Skaggs said work performance has improved."
SP: Here we see they haven't learned anything from the megaplex disaster in Japan. Megaplexes are harder to build and harder to regain control in a crisis because of this small "efficient" layout.
You can't get large numbers of workers to build or contain multiple reactors.
Blow up one reactor at a megaplex and you have a dangerous regional contamination issue. But blow up two or three or more reactors… It quickly can turn into a runaway global extinction level event.
Fukushima NPP still has multiple problems that can potentially enlarge the toxic emissions into an extinction level event and nobody can do a damn thing about it so far. Pissing water on three nuclear fireballs (Units 1-3 runaway coriums) and the precarious Damocles sword at the ramshackle Unit 4 Spent Fuel Pond is just a feeble attempt at slowing down the disaster. Water does not quench nuclear fires..
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Hi everyone
@ Arclight,
Been on holiday in Devon for a week but took the Soeks and got a few different readings..
Was raining for a good few days and did some tests.
On 4 August, got a peak to 0.45 uSv/hr on a rain swipe which didn't come down very much. Left it in a sealed bag and about 24 hrs after tried it again and got a peak to about 0.36. Next 2 days the readings dropped until under the background.
Did another rain swipe on the 5th and peaked at around 0.37 uSv/hr.
It rained for another 2 days and took another swipe but didn't get any peaks. Any thoughts? Not been on Eurdep properly much due to lack of wifi and a pc
Ranges were lower outdoors there at roughly 0.12 uSv/hr.
Did a ten minute count on 09 August at 9.00pm BST at an average of 0.12 uSv/hr with a peak to 0.42. The house on holiday was about 2 miles from the sea.
Came back to higher readings
0.16 average on a ten minute count (12 August 20:00 BST) and quite a few peaks, highest at 0.43 uSv/hr and they didnt go down to under 0.15..
Today has been a little higher with quite a few peaks to 0.43 uSv/hr and 0.30(ish) uSv/hr.
Been higher than normal over the last 2 days since being back..
La Hague? Or the extremely high readings in Belgium?
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hi itsalllies
its likely radon.. but la hague dumped a fair bit on london and it would liger on the hills and moors of devon and cornwall added to the natural radon from places like bodmin moor..
heres a map to help you work out what was local and what was not
http://www.ukradon.org/map.php?map=englandwales
have fum overlaying that on google earth and you can pinpoint the radon to a close proximity to where you were staying..
gieger fun eh?
does the family think you are losing it? lol!
but it is interesting looking at this invisible foe! imo
and it annoys edf and makes their shares crash i think?
high grequency trading imploding under alternative news outlets.. luv it!
would make even max and stacy proud.. lol!
meanwhile in london the rads are creeping up
since about 20.00 hrs bst i got little surges to 0.17 mcSv/h
the average in west london was near 0.10 earlier nut is now nearer 0.13 mcSv/h with surges to 0.19 mcSv/h..
see what the morrow brings?
peace
gnight
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· Fuku workers: – Exposure dose
(Maximum dose) : 0.39 mSv
(Exposure dose): 0.80 mSv/day planned
If I'm reading this correctly, the 'exposed' dose is more than double the 'maximum'. Per TEPCO.
Wow!
_____________________
Original Post by nuckelchen
on the webcam forum:
August 12, 2012 at 3:15 pm ·
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_120810_01-e.pdf
"Work Outline
- Day and time: From 11:25 AM to 11:40 AM on August 10, 2012
- Number of workers involved: 18 workers per group (2 groups)
- Exposure dose (Maximum): 0.39mSv (Planned exposure dose: 0.8mSv/day)
- The upper lid of the PCV on the operating floor was lifted down to the ground by
utilizing a large crawler crane (750 tons)."
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hi chasha it looks like the maximum dose was in a short period or instant hit as it doesnt have per day on it..
the exposure dose would be the whole days total exposure if i read it right..
means in a very short time he got half the days dose..
these guys should be limiting the dose more than this.. its going to be a long job and they need shorter shifts and more qualified manpower on it..
these guys are specialists in this specific disaster and everyone who gets put out by these high doses are an asset that can ill afford to be lost..
great find.. u should repost it on a suitable headline
gotta crash now
peace
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Alert from Potrblog
30,000 DPM of Cesium-137 were detected on a 100 square centimeter surface of a dry casket tractor trailer rig in Pennsylvania; NRC Event Number: 48178. This detection was of REMOVABLE Cs-137, meaning that weathering would have removed the contamination after some time period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFLrZ3F-4Bk&feature=player_embedded
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ABC News – hands out Iodine pills in PA as of Aug 9th
coincidence…? something…?
"Not a good sign." – potrblog
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link – http://www.abcnews4.com/story/19207414/free-potassium-iodide-tablets-available-aug-9-from-pennsylvania-department-of-health
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Missing some locations on Rad Network around Pennsylvania. (?)
Normally there are several located in that general area.
http://radiationnetwork.com/
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london umoilylympic radiation reading
before i tell you that the rads have now dropped,
the amazing mo went to 10 downing street to meet the rich and powerful and for the politicians to grab a PR moment!
he asked them straight out
"what are you going to do about world poverty" double plus plus!
the new police commissioner was recorded as stating that
"i am glad the olympics are over"
and anti nuclear blogger was also recorded as saying
"i am glad the olympics are over"
and most of london was heard to say
"i am glad the olympics are over"
and finally g4s have donated a couple of million pounds to the MOD and still expect to recieve nearly 60 million for a botched job of employing drug dealers for about 10 dollars an hour and pissing off most uk police forces…..
average all day
0.10 mcSv/h or about 36 CPM
range 0.07 to 0.13 mcSv/h
it rained briefly and i got a slight initial rise as the dust was compressed but this one only got to 70 cpm briefly then dropped as the rain steadied..
since then and with small showers the readings have been at the lower end of the range..
point to note
the readings inside are a bit higher because of trapped particulates
readings higher down stairs than upstairs..
if we get no more releases from npp`s even this historical contamination may clear.. fingers crossed that the air will be good for the Disabled Olympics.. planning to go to that!
with me gieger counter
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actually thought i would let you know that someone called me to check on a problem ..
the whole family have been getting headaches, nausea, sleep disorders recently..
they were worried about a sunbed that was in a shop next door.. as well as some containers that were also stored on the premises..
so he asked me to bring the gieger over to see if i could get any readings..
i found no contamination, in fact the opposite..
there was a thick wall blocking any stray UV lights
after a little talk it turned out that a new mobile phone mast had been installed at about the right time for the start of the headaches..
they live within 350 meters of the mast..
and own five phones between them..
i checked the mast with a gieger but no activity.. but there are specific devices for microwave etc radiation
there was a study done in isreal where they found people living within 350 meters had 4 times the chance of getting cancer..
and other studies show the exact symptoms they have..
the reason they realised was that the mother and kids left early to go on holiday and all of them stopped having symptoms..
except the husband who is still at home..??
thought i might share that..
busby was mentioning about the swedish study that got stopped by nokia!
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oh and one of their neighbors recently died suddenly with no obvious cause..
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Arcligh,
I wrote a blog about mobile phone radiation years ago, and recently did a talk at a Rotary organization meeting on this very subject.
I was surprised that they asked me back and do another talk, which I did on Fukushima.
When I wrote the article there were 4 billion people using mobiles, now I think there are 5 billion. Children using mobile phones will be most affected by this type of radiation. The whole world is now subject to 100,000 times more background microwave radiation compared to 70 years ago.
http://sccc.org.au/archives/1574
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hi vital
ho hum!
thanks for the feedback
just when you are getting used to one form of invisible pollution you come across another one!
its the first time i heard of a whole family being badly effected! yikes!
@yogda
looks like a guass meter is on the list then..
i live in a bad signal area.. kinda happy about that now..
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"Wake Up Call" is a great local 60 minutes piece on mobile phone radiation. MSN do shine occasionally.
http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/stories/liambartlett/797215/wake-up-call
If you are going to use a mobile the safety suggestions are to text, use the speaker phone feature, or a wired headset to keep its radiation away from your body, particularly you head.
Don't place the phone on your body as it pulses every 8 seconds whether it is turned on, or off. They like to track were you are
If you are using a computer mobile broadband USB device to connect to the Internet, put it on a long 5 meter USB cable, to get it away from you, as they work on similar frequency to mobile phones.
Also be aware that cordless phones work on a similar frequency band as mobile phone do.
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Dam it, they took the "Wake Up Call" video down, I take that back about MSN shining sometimes.
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Should be MSM,(Main Stream Media) sorry typo. Multi tasking here, I should be working. Don't let the boss know, Oh! that is me.
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WAKE UP CALL from electrosmog expert Olle Johansson 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cczGVhd63pM
Uploaded by EMRinformation on Oct 17, 2010
Now watched in 131 countries!
WAKE UP CALL 2
http://www.youtube.com/user/EMRinformation?feature=mhum#p/a/6187AF1BEC008BB0/…
WAKE UP CALL from electrosmog expert Olle Johansson,
Professor at the Karolinska Institute
CV: http://www.radiationresearch.org/pdfs/cv/olle_johansson.pdf
More info on elctrosmog: http://www.youtube.com/EMRinformation
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Arclight, good find.
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Try using a Gauss meter Arclight?
Really sad about the EMI/RF radiation pollution that's everywhere…
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Realtime US radiation monitoring on Radiation Network at this moment shows 7 stations over 50cpm.
http://radiationnetwork.com/
Alert level considered as 100cpm. I can't remember having even one station report over 50cpm for most of the past year. So Fukuradiation is creeping up over the US right now.
I will not become really alarmed until we have several stations over 100cpm. But any radiation that falls to ground poisons the soil and accumulates up the food chain and right into our mouths.
Suggest you scrape off top 2" of soil. Build a greenhouse at least 15 feet long. Recycle old glass and metal if you can find it. Build two raised bed garden plots for lots of fresh vegies (lettuce and small verticle plants, no squash, mellons which spread out.) Plant early crops and late crops to extend growing season. Irrigate with deep well water only (radiation free). Good luck to us all! Peace.
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Geiger counter difference.
5 mins average
http://jpdo.com/sks9/213/joyful.cgi?list=pickup&num=3401#3401
http://jpdo.com/sks9/213/joyful.cgi?list=pickup&num=3400#3400
I considered buying RadEye B20 but it costs over £700.
May be next time if I want to have a collection like the above >.<
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Hey Arclight
I can agree about the rads dropping and downstairs in the house its definetly a bit higher with peaks to 0.21 u Sv.. I hope too that they drop and stay thay way!
I looked on google maps and the radon map and it was about 10-20 on the colors.. so it wasnt low so could of been some of that.. who knows?
Family is actually okay with it.. think they it keeps me happy lol so I dont mind
I find it fascinating how you can see the invisible foe and you would never normally know.. ignorance is bliss?
If we make them lose shares then ah well!! They will easily make more! With the reliable energy lol
Wish the soeks could detect Alpha though:( feels like I could miss some important ones..
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the alpha thing is interesting but i can cover that from london.. heres a new video of todays rain .. it is likely to be coming your way as well from belgium dole..
August 15th 2012 Dole NPP Radiation in the London rain to 1 microsievert, wind maps, radiation etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFx3qURLjK0
i will be posting some evidence of coverup of water quality reports because of excess Pb lead in the water supply
no one was told even though the level was above the maximum limit and they redid the annual teat on water a month later as it only just made the maximum limit
from mercoule in september 2011..
got the evidence and compiling a story.. this unknown pollution from NPP`s needs to be talked about.. loads of people who didnt eat loads of dark chocolate and orange juice got ill here in london
air quality not been so bad for 6 years thats if you believe the dust suppressed monitors figures of boris johnson..
sorry about mentioning boris..
to make amends
looks like chunkymark is allowed back on you tube
General Public is on crack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VItB9GEnw5U
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The day after I took this reading next to the nuclear plant they had an "event" which required them to partially shutdown yet again due to a leak in the primary coolant. The Palisades nuke plant is an accident waiting to happen. Will post more about it in the general discussion area later tonight or tomorrow and will post a link to that under this entry.
Inspector Extreme Geiger Counter
For Reference: 100 CPM (Counts Per Minute) is an Alert Level
Van Buren State Park, Michigan USA adjacent to Palisades Nuclear Plant
On the Eastern coastline of Lake Michigan
34.6 CPM in early afternoon, taken from a 10 minute timed count on Aug 11th 2012.
Taken in Parking Lot a Picnic Table
34.6 CPM in early afternoon, taken from a 10 minute timed count on Aug 11th 2012.
Taken on the Beach, about 3 feet off the ground.
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Comments/Information on the most recent event at Palisades Nuclear that just happened to occur the day after I took the above readings in general discucussion forum:
http://enenews.com/forum-general-discussion-thread-nuclear-issues-july-2012/comment-page-8#comment-279690
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300 Gross Beta Count Rate, Denver, CO
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/net2/Denver-CO-Real-Time-US-Radiation-Monitoring-Graph.aspx
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86 cpm at 9:03AM in VA
http://radiationnetwork.com/
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over 60 cpm Sacramento, CA
http://radiationnetwork.com/
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greetings..San Diego…Rados-60R dosimeter 24 hr. cumulative beta/x-ray.. typical background is .2 mr.per 24 hr. today this morning, .5mr. I'm firing up the XT inspector to do some 1 hr. count totals.. will post .. we be gettin dosed!!
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Radiation network reports at this time 78cpm in Virginia, with 5 US sites above 50cpm. 100cpm considered Alert Level. http://radiationnetwork.com/
No US city has been above 50cpm for much of the past one year. Now, on a typical day, we have 3-6 stations over 50cpm. We truly are getting more and more nuke industry radiation these days.
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Hi philipupnorth. There's plenty to worry about, but you may be worried about the wrong things.
The Virginia data is from Anti-proton's hotel room ceiling, as he has documented up-thread:
http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-april-30-2012-present/comment-page-12#comment-278716
All stations will spike from time to time. "Random" works that way. Whether there are patterns or not is certainly the big question. There is ongoing chatter about this in the radiation network chat space and Yahoo Group. I am not aware of any patterns other than radon washout rain issues.
There are no stations on the network – none – that have continuous high levels, except for "Philly", which almost always reads high but the owner has never responded to contact attempts from Tim (radiation network owner). Such a high reading could come from inadvertent placement near a radon source, among other things.
My station is "scotia". It has shown a rock-solid average of 13 CPM day in/day out, month in/month out, since I installed it. That reading is lower than many because of the GC I use (PRM-8000). Casual users of the radiation network maps cannot tell the equipment used by individual stations, nor whether the equipment is indoors or outdoors, nor its elevation. Pancake-probe GCs have higher readings than window-type GCs. Higher elevations generally have higher levels.
Hope that helps!
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Here's another aspect of the "high count" phenomenon. The number of stations is growing all the time. When I joined a few months ago, there were about 50 stations active on the map at any one time. Now there are typically 65-70.
Assume that, say, 10% of the stations are "in spike" at any given moment. That would mean when I looked at the map a few months ago, with 50 stations, I would notice (on average) 5 stations with a spike value. Now though, a few months later, I would notice (on average) 6 or 7 stations with a spike value. Next year, it might be 8 or 10, and so forth, even though the underlying percentage does not change. The visual effect would be startling over time.
That is one of the factors in play when we look at the radiation network maps.
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I am suggesting that we all try to learn long term data collection and charting these skills, because this will provide more evidenced as to what is actually happening locally, and worldwide.
Even though spike detection is useful it won't provide you with the overall
important detailed information you need to know. To find out what is really
happening to your local background radiation levels over time you need to do
long term data analysis. Charting this collected data is the best way to do
this.
My full local background radiation level charting info can be found here. If you look at the daily and monthly charts you can get a clear picture as to what is happening over time. Random observations won't provide you with this type of important information.
http://sccc.org.au/archives/2630
Taking the effort to chart a daily average local background radiation levels, and monthly average background can provide a lot of useful information. You don't need computer software to do this if your Geiger counter provides a daily average reading. If you have computer software it should provide the day's average.
You can then chart this information in a computer, or simply use A4 charting
paper which you can get from most stationers.
Simply mark out the days along the X axis and CPM or uSv/hr along Y axis.
Once you have a complete month of daily averages add up all the day uSv/hr
averages, then divide this by the number of days in the month to get the average…
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Then divide this by the number of days in the month to get the average
uSv/hr for that month. Then start a new chart for Monthly averages.
I would say that the Blackcat Systems and Radiation Network should have this type of information archived. If you could access this long term data and analyzed it, it would provide a much clearer picture of what is happening with radiation levels over time.
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Sorry, Vital-l, and hats off to you! I didn't see your posting until after I'd posted my comments. –Craig
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Radiation Network posts 1 minute averages, which vary wildly under normal conditions (say: 36cpm plus or minus 18 over the course of several hours) –even when the background level hasn't changed at all (see the "Poisson distribution" Wikipedia entry). Don't feel bad: you should _not_ have to know things like that –nor that someone's reading his hotel room instead of open air.
At http://webpages.charter.net/123goto/map.htm#1208 you can see my long period averages, back to 4/17/2011. (Early graphs have a wild upper line which charts air filter radon readings –now done as annotations to the background radiation graph.)
* But long period averages (alone) can miss important brief events, so watch for our Network alerts as well.
** My amateur efforts and EnviroReporter's seem to be the only such regular gamma count readings of public record on the west coast.
Take a look at what German citizens can access (by clicking on any of those 1800 dots)!! –per:
> http://odlinfo.bfs.de/
–and explanations for what's posted are just another click away.
If you can parse the meaning, EPA's RadNet graphs "gross beta" plus "gross gamma" in (undisclosed) energy bands. The only practical way I know of to get at their graphs is via Higgins' aggregation portals at:
> http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/12/realtime-epa-radnet-japan-nuclear-radiation-monitoring-every-us-city-single-page-16511/
(If I'm in error or out-of-date, please jump in with…
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–with corrections.
(We seem to have far fewer remaining characters than what's indicated.) –Craig
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"nor that someone's reading his hotel room instead of open air." – in case it wasn't clear, I believe AntiProton's reading was specifically from the ceiling tile.
As you know, tiles, porcelain, granite, and various other common objects are potential known emitter sources to be avoided when looking for ambient readings.
I agree with your comments about averages and brief events. Users of the radiation network's Geiger Graph software can see archived spreadsheet data showing counts per minute for all stations. It's a huge collection of data, although I believe the network is still far too sparse to capture any subtle patterns. I hope there are thousands more users before too long, and meanwhile any gross patterns are certainly of interest.
Early days yet for crowd-sourced radiation awareness in North America, but way better than waiting for government data. Your German link is an eye-opener – thanks!
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Graig-123,
We are both on the same page when it comes to the value of charting.
The German set up makes other countries look primitive!
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Nice job Craig123. Thanks.
I've sent your link to my relative in Bandon, OR.
Looking back was interesting.
Charts: At http://webpages.charter.net/123goto/map.htm#1208
What's the Yearly/Decades Overview Chart going to look like?
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