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hi mark
glad your rads are low! we are having a pollution incident in europe from alot of reactors !!
portugal
turkey (i found evidence of another turkey reactor leting off on the 1 april 2012 either in the south or the east) as well as the earthquake emmission of the 4 april in Van region
hungary budapest for the last 4 weeks at least again! did it ever stop??
germany
france (2 reactors and they import wind energy from germany! lol!)
england (three problem reactor at least but suspect more)
a possible in the science university of nuclear stuff in greece but they probaly just had accurate monitoring and picked up someone elses !
finlands monthly gamma was high as was a few others like errr hungary!
but they were dwarfed by frances contribution (lots of digits probaly mainly la hague and catternom and one down south?
belgium near antwerp
all eurdep monitors have technically stopped there data from the 6 april 2012 but you can stilla ccess the data using a back door and using tooltip for isotope amounts realtime i believe
the switch offs on the data that is actually coming in, even though its not supposed too?, are mainly centred around the south east of europe including turkey.. as you come north or west the data is there!
big co-ordinated cover up going on in the south east.. turkey wants its first reactor and its jolly well going to get it if the military wing of the IAEA has its way!!
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off to render another vid!
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london radiation reading
12 april 2012
the early morning saw highs of around 0.20 mcSv/h
the winds and rain seemed to lower the average to 0.11 mcSv/h this afternoon..
winds from north west atlantic/arctic
noticable drop intemperature
still getting the odd rise to 0.18 mcSv/h but the winds are prone to changing over the next 24 hrs..
winds from dieppe and lahague and hinkley look like they will hug the coast of france heading north easterly to the netherlands and denmark etc
norway got a rise as i predicted and as the winds turned south norway has had a slight drop in its background! this is clean air! bring it on! however it will likely be moving north again
still havent pinned the portugal thing either
got so much editing to do!
later!
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major cover up in turkey and local nuclear monitoring stations 12 april 2012 Part 1/2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0CAMyyCVRA
Part 2/2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD0xGYuYPt0
theres the evidence
phew gdnight
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Take care arc….Watch out for strange men carrying 18-inch screwdrivers trying to give you cup holders by both temples. The stakes are high and some countries' nuclear interests are stone cold when it comes to critiques.
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thanks sickputer but i have my own personal protection… my mi5 handlers..
the uk is a bit tetchy when it concerns uk nationals getting bumped off by foriegn interests!!
i hope!
mind you, they DO like sending the riff raff in the uk to the english prison colony though (usa)!
here there is plenty of room over there
probaly the reason obama got the "nobel, not worth the paper its written on, peace prize" for pacifying citizens of the world in an equal and unjust manner
best not to tell angie zelter or she might give hers back!! (also norway is BIG in depleted uranium and other nuke nasties???) shhhhhh! ;/
arclight is now waiting for the ploughshare wrecking crew to squash his garden flowers with 18 inch screwdrivers!!
just saying!
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The US and UK spooks can't even find a cyber crook unless he crashes into the back of their 1980's surveillance van. But they are not the ones to worry about… It's the other spooks from the corporations. Binyam Mohammed would have fared far worse if he had been deemed a threat to those goons. The Mafia are rank amateurs compared to them. They own Big Brother and that's a scary thought.
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I'm working on a theory that organised crime own the corp.guv world. they are the silent partners, using 'conservative' people to unwittingly (or extortedly) ply their plans.
Because, I find it difficult to accept that so much crazy stuff is going on and yet TPTB and the general people just accept it. I'm amazed that the overwhelming human nature seems to not care what's going on.
I've written it before, from what I've read and perceived, that it appears the 'yakuza' have hold of jap.corp.guv by the short and curlies. Maybe not the Y as such, but something akin to that. Similar with usa.corp.guv, but maybe it's traditional mafia.
but i also think they combine, into a corrupted world.corp.guv – it's not a geographically isolated group anymore. they are fully global.
People scoff at my thoughts on this one. But if the real power has retreated into the darkness and silence, we only see the puppet theatre at play and think that's the 'front end'. I think we need to think beyond what is presented to us.
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angie's was a different kind of nobel i think….
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arclight,
There were spikes in Avignon river water on April 4 and April 7, for both iodine-131 and gamma radiation:
http://balisescriirad.free.fr/Resultats_%20mesures/avieaui.pdf
http://balisescriirad.free.fr/Resultats_%20mesures/avieaug.pdf
Valence had spikes in both alpha and beta on these days:
http://balisescriirad.free.fr/Resultats_%20mesures/valart.pdf
There was rain in southern France on these days. Sanliurfa Turkey also had a spike on the 4th from your video.
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french switzerland today, there are still high readings
I checked the air in the staircase, the air there seems less mixed and unstable than in the apartment (I still maintain this bad (!) habit of appreciating the fresh (?) air), the values are very stable, 0.9-0.11 mcSv/h
it's raining outside, the winds coming from everywhere,
yesterday mainly S and SW, than this night W, changing to SW – N – S – SE, mild, about 10km/h
during my 10 min. walk the outside range of background radiation 0.10 to 0.20mcSv/h, with the most frequent reading situated between 0.14 and 0.18mcSv/h
official readings for my region: 0.11mcSv/h
sursum corda!
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Margot,
Thx and take care !
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h margot
there is some heavy stuff going on in turkey and im not sure about hungary.. plus the german refuel and i havent worked out whats happenning to the portugese contamination clouds!!
its at times like these i drink apply juice!
thanks for the report.. it will be useful!
thanks for the crirad update bobby! more fuel for the fire so to speak!!
know what you mean sickputer.. but theres more of us than them!!
….after fukushima….
….no nukes never!!..
peace to all here!
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Hi all,
Well I’ve finally decided to buy a Geiger counter. Only problem is which one to buy. I know more than the average person about radiation but would be considered a novice by those more experienced (you on this discussion forum). Any advice on this issue or websites to read would be much appreciated. I want to be able to test food and water especially to reduce and or eliminate internal exposure for children.
Fukushima is going to get worse. Especially because it does not appear that a significant effort is being made nationally or internationally to stabilize the facility. After a year of watching and learning I feel as though I am going to be in a race against time to prepare to protect those I love from the next plumes of fallout.
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Hi enoughalready45. These guys seem good:
http://www.geigercounters.com/
I bought a PRM-8000 but I got it from the manufacturer rather than from this site. I can't remember why now – I got my software from these guys though. No problems either way.
http://www.geigercounters.com/NetworkVersion.htm
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Hi folks,
I am confused and don`t know what to think about my own geiger measurements. I measure since last october with a gamma scout and a soeks. I always had a feeling that the gamma scout measured too high, but I believed those values because it is the better or more expensive device. At the end of the day it showed the values I expected in this part of the world (Hamburg, Germany) after an accident like fuku.
Now I got three more gamma scouts and had the chance to compare those newer geigers to the old one. The new ones agree more ore less, and the "old" geiger shows 50-100% more most of the time!
Now what to believe? One would think the three new gamma scouts are correct and the old one has to be defective. BUT then the values here would be very pleasant and the official measurements would be right. I tend to doubt that. I mean hey, they tried to stop private measurements, without sucess. What if they now do it smarter and force the manufacturers to build geigers which show friendlier values? Am I nuts? Can somebody confirm that geigers bought after (lets say) autumn of 2011 measure lower then for example those built pre-fuku?
I am confused now. I put a lot of effort in my measurements for 6 months. Now I don`t know what to believe.
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hi hg
you bring up an interesting point… my soeks has similar values to the eurdep luxemborg monitors.. except not quite so erratic most of the time.. i get some low averagers for periods of time…
that said the peaks to 0.29 mcSv/h for beta (pb radioactive etc) maybe.. but it matches that monitor well, basically the range is comparible… most other monitors on the eurdep system only get erratic when there is a too big for the software to cope scenario (about 1 a week at the moment.. your readings in hamburg should be lower generally though by the look of it.. but the soeks is likely giving you the correct range if it is a bit glitchy when the air gets active..
hope i made some sense on how you might be able to compare your readings.. it might be worth a drive to luxemborg for the day to test them all out and compare them with the monitor.. you get the long and lat.. and you could also ring eurdep and ask them where a specific monitor might be?? bnbs got the phone number!
lol!
take care hamburg.. let me know if that helps!
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Geiger counters put side by side will measure slightly different detections. Radiation doesn't necessarily spray out like a sprinkler evenly in all directions. It can be very directional at times. Even the air passing by each Geiger can have differences in concentrations in radioactivity.
Look at this Gammascout Geiger Counter 24 data chart. Data samples were taken once a minute. See how much variation there can be in radiation levels over a short time span.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/24-hour-background-radiation-chart-05032012.jpg
Manufactures use different Geiger tubes, these tubes can very in sensitivity from each other. Even a different batch, or model made by the same manufacturer can very slightly. They can vary in their detection abilities across the the radioactive frequency spectrum!
I would suggest that the newer model made by a well known manufacturer would be more accurate because they have just been tested, and certified.
I am not sure about newly manufactured Japanese models at present. Comments made by posters at enenews recently suggest that they are being alerted in some way at manufacture. Just a rumor who knows? They said that Japanese shops where instructed to only supply Japanese manufactured Geiger models.
It is definitely not a perfect world when it comes to Geiger counters.
At best they will tell you if your background radiation levels are going up or down, some will show this with more sensitivity.
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As a general rule I would suggest using the most sensitive Geiger you have. Some are internally designed to average the results more than others, so you won't see as much variation over a short period of time on the meter screen.
Having a lower background radiation level to start with is an big advantage because you are more likely to pick up changes that others will miss if their background levels are higher.
Get a feel for your Geiger Counter. Knowing what is the average background level you would expect for your area is important. Then you have a baseline from which to work.
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Having a good knowledge of local weather patterns is also a part of these understanding background radiation detections. Becoming a meteorologist is an important part of detecting radiation events particularly if you live near nuclear power stations.
Archligh has a good knowledge of his normal background radiation levels for London, plus local weather patterns, so he knows when those clouds released by the European Nuclear plants and Fukushima are passing over London.
I know that all my radioactive cloud detections have occurred when the wind has been coming from the north, or north north east by watching the weather.
You need to build up a knowledge base of weather and background radiation. Watching your Geiger counter meter level go up and down will not provide you with the bigger picture.
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@vital
lol! add pollution expert to the list as well
LQQK below!
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The sensitivity of a Geiger tube is mostly a function of size. In the main.
If the tube is small, it will pick up less.
The same applies to detectors with scintillation crystals,
Bigger is better when it comes to detectors.
Which is why most hand held detectors are not very sensitive to all but strong sources.Mostly they have tiny tubes or small scintillation crystals.
But because i am only a new at this like many others, i go back to those like Tom who is a wealth of knowledge and has been around for some time because he loves the subject pre Fukushima.
He has a large collection of helpful well informed videos. For instance…
"Three Geiger Counters Compared"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQLbUaE6CB0
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I agree, Arclight! 1000+!!!
Thanks for all you do, Admin!
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I picked up some hot particles on a parcel delivery yesterday, with my Geiger counter. A friend picked up a contaminated batch of tea bags a few days ago. If a Geiger counter picks up food contamination, it is generally pretty contaminated.
Last year another friend detected contamination on a newly purchased music CD, and a chocolate bar. You just have to test everything coming into your house.
Australia,
Queensland,
Caloundra,
13th April, 2012
Our background radiation levels have been coming down for a few weeks now since the fifth of March event, see chart below. For weeks now the wind direction has been constantly coming from the south. For all the radioactive cloud detections I made in January, February and March 2012 the wind was coming from the north.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Caloundra-local-average-background-radiation-levels-April-2012.jpg
All the 2007 to 2012 charted info for my location is at this local background radiation monitoring station site I have set up here.
http://sccc.org.au/archives/2630
This free Geiger Counter Use Guide has been put together to help those here who have just purchased a Geiger counter. It has basic info on how to get the best out that new Geiger Counter. It also has info on how to prevent accidental contamination of a Geiger counter.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contamin
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dead link to Geiger counter article
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Sorry, went over my typed character allowance for my post, and it cut off the link address.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contamination.pdf
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The food and goods radioactive contamination detections where all made by people in the southern hemisphere!
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Nuclear power for Turkey — pleases Russian sales, not the Turkish people
Turkish nuclear power — an unwarranted venture, Hurriyet Daily News, ERHUN KULA, 12 April 12
"..Advocates of nuclear energy argue that we need nuclear energy to meet the growing demand. in Turkey 15-20 percent of the electricity produced is lost in distribution and stolen by the end users. So the most logical step to take is to prevent waste and pilferage. We do not need nuclear power. The Akkuyu unit is likely to cost $20 billion. Obviously some people, including the Russians, will make a lot of money at the expense of Turkish customers. This is why the vested interest is passionately arguing for nuclear power…….
Professor Erhun Kula, from Istanbul's Bahçesehir University, researched economic and moral aspects of nuclear power in the U.K., the United States and Sweden, and has published widely in this field…"
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-nuclear-power–an-unwarranted-venture.aspx?pageID=238&nID=18223&NewsCatID=396
from a handy nuke news resource here
http://nuclear-news.net/
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#AirQualityEgg
An Open Hardware project in New York, NY
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/680121538/air-quality-egg
and https://twitter.com/#!/LongmontRadMon
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eurdep has not been updating anything since the 6 april
europe has been censored as there are so many reactors polluting the air!!
9 days now and no data!! turkey must have been bad!! any eartquakes due there?
wow europe public mapping is finally censored…
how do thet fund eurdep!!???
saves me a job i suppose!!
will the eurdep monitor staff be losing theres??
grrr!!
european pollution coverup!!
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Sounds like bad news arclight. Thanks for keeping an eye on it.
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this site doesnt show all europe, but the readings dont look any higher than usual…http://you-measure.com/index.php?v_ort=Englischer+Garten#aktuelle-messdaten
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hi mungo..
eurdep has been turned off to public use from the 6 april as i posted on my video..
the bover up started in the south east region and coincided with the turkey earthquake.. the readings of eurdep for greece was 0.50 mcSv/h for 24 hours!!
most of the action seems to be around there!
the austrian monitor i saw was still on but any nearer to turkey and switch off..
italy has a problem too in the north east.. it keeps disconnecting from the now defunct to the public eurdep! old habits die hard!!
?
erratic readings in uk with winds coming to london from sizewell
highs to 0.21 mbSv/h average started at 0.11 butended up at 0.14 mcSv/h
lows to 0.06 briefly this afternoon after alot of quick peaks..
range now 0.08 to 0.18 with few peaks but rises to 0.18 frequent
london radiation reading 19.30 hrs gmt 14 april 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er_PGPWfiCw
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Oahu, Indoor, 8 hour run
33 CPM average – a bit higher than outside that seems to average 22 to 25 CPM
No HEPA filter being run in this area
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Here is the latest info on my investigation into cost effective and easy to use food testing equipment for radioactive contamination. I have found a few units so far, ranging in price from $1,700 to $18,000.
I am still investigating the cheapest unit here. At $1,700 it is supplied with scintillator and software. It will also give you an indication of individual isotope contamination levels like the more expensive AustralRAD Becquerel Monitor below. To use it you will also need a computer and to build a lead testing chamber. These are an extra cost. You will also need to learn how to use the software to get the best out of it.
Berthold Australia LB 200- Rapid food monitoring $11,000. The Berthold Australia LB 200- Rapid food monitor is probably the easiest to use it just tells you the Becquerel contamination amount on a screen and is supplied with lead shielded testing chamber.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/LB-200-05-2004-81297PR2-Rev02.pdf
The Gammasonics AustralRAD Becquerel Monitor $18,000 The Gammasonics AustralRAD Becquerel Monitor is more sophisticated than the other two models and provides you with an indication of individual isotope contamination levels and is supplied with a lead testing chamber, computer laptop and software.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/BecqueralMonitorBROCHURE-V8-web.pdf
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If the cheaper unit does the job I will post more info on it. I need to do more research into this unit to satisfy myself it will do the job. It will also need a lead testing chamber. A DIY lead testing chamber may cost around $300 in lead just to build it with a good thickness.
All dollar amounts here are in Australian dollars.
If any off you discover another food tester or have any other suggestions for suitable radioactive food testers please let us know.
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I will also add this food testing equipment info to the free Geiger Counter Use Guide once I have more information on the cheaper unit.
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Lead shield is easy to construct by wrapping copper pipe (Which removes secondary Lead Xrays) with lead plumbers flashing.
I built mine with a three inch wall thickness considered a good standard and the can be easily dismantled if moving it is necesarry. The one i have built weighs around 350Kilos (I forget, but it is something like that.
Here it is when i had not added the xtra lead and increased the size of the solid Lead hemisphere the copper/Lead cylinders sit on.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.168852016557837.33308.100002991180317&type=3
I can not recommend these "out of a shop" solutions and by far the best bang for the buck is to get a full size scintillation detector which is a 3 inch crystal, for around 2000 dollars but 2 inch is totally more than most need and less than 1 inch is what most commercial suppliers use because they are stingy when it comes to generous sized detector crystals and that is just from what i have seen other manufacturers supply.
Decent sized crystal a must.
I cannot impress upon you how much cheaper and better the DIY system used by many of us at facebook GammaSpectacular is in terms of sensitivity for your dollar. I guess you would have to look into it as i don't like telling people how to spend their money.
The system we use is 'plug and play' enough for me.
I think most of the commercial systems for radioactive detection are a serious rip off.
https://www.facebook…
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gamma-Spectacular/146649762066972
All Steve does is supply the bias which can be used with almost any kind of detector. He is not making a fortune making these adapters. They are 250$
The software MCA (Multichannel analyser) is free from sydney edu
http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~marek/pra/index.html
Let me further say i think it is bollocks and a waste of money to buy commercial stand alone units. It is far better to invest in high quality detectors. A decent Sodium Iodide (NaI) from a reputable supplier like Ludlum, Scionix, Bicron and then get one of Steve's power supplies to power any of them coupled to a notebook and the free software aforementioned.
To spend big money on anything other than decent detector crystals or pancakes is a waste of money in my view.
For instance, instead of buying some flash looking stand alone mobile phone like detector for 1000 dollars, it is another order of sensitivity and quality to buy the detector sensor like a pancake detector and 250 for the aforementioned bias which works with all the detector sensors under the sun.
It is the detector, and not the box you get it in that counts. What i mostly see is people buying fancy plastic boxes with microscopic detector sensors in them which are pretty dull when used for detecting contamination and weak sources.
Forget the fancy packaging and invest in the best detector .
here are a few.
http://www.ludlums…
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I don't get it…..why have fish and chips when yu can have roast dinner.
Forget the fancy mobile phone style detectors with miniscule crystals or Geiger tubes within from fancy companies, ………………concentrate on the quality of the detector element within…..It is time we here find out how useless most of the equipment out there really is.
Here are what the professionals use., But Bicron, Scionix, Harshaw are all good also.
http://www.ludlums.com/images/stories/price_list/LMI%20Price%20List.pdf
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St. Louis, Mo RAIN at 49x Background.
video via potrblog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tjCf12WuRDw
If it's in the rain then it's in the water, then it's in the grass, then it's in the cows milk. Then, its in… etc… etc…
…and it's accumulating and spreading!!!
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The Gammasonics AustralRAD Becquerel Monitor also has options that will allow you to detect alpha contamination. These optional extras put the price up to $35,000. Those prices don't include our GST which adds another 10%.
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thats some cool research vital!! wondering how to fund this? lots of food for thought though!!
best way to attack the nuke companies
through someone elses belly!!
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Vital 1…i have not seen one professional name brand in your repertoire.
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I will say it since you are some kind of a roll and have omitted brand names that have been industry tested over many years.
Like i say, it is the quality of the detector that "counts".
The software and the hardware to drive the detectors is where the money is saved.
The software and hardware to drive industry quality detectors can cost as little as 250$
These days MCA software is free from Sydney physics edu's Marek.D.
Go here to see how some have been coping with the question of how to get the best bang for buck for decades, and getting excellent results.
I highly doubt you will see any of your 'new' information there.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GeigerCounterEnthusiasts/
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GammaSpectrometry/
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Clearly Vital1….you must have money to burn. I just object to you planting suggestions in the minds of people that you know exactly what you are doing.
I don't know of many who are writing up guides and omitting self help groups like
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GeigerCounterEnthusiasts/
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GammaSpectrometry/
Who have been at it well before any money could be made out of it due to nuclear disaster and the like.
These guys, like to help and you should go there to ask for advice before directing others.
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Spectrometising,
I agree these units commercial unites are expensive, and that is why I have been investigating cheaper units.Most people would not be able to afford them.
"All Steve does is supply the bias which can be used with almost any kind of detector."
It is Steve's the unit I am looking at for around for around $1,700 with a scintillator tube. I just needed more info on which scintillator tube would be most cost effective unit to use with his equipment for food testing.
I was going to purchase his unit and try it out before I suggesting it, to make sure it would be suitable. I also wanted to see how easy it would be to use. Not everyone here has technical ability.
I have no commercial interest in any of this I just saw a need to find a cost effective food testing unit for the community because we need it.
I was not aware of these groups you mentioned. I will add these groups to the guide. The guide is a work in progress. I am simply trying to provide people with basic information quickly and easily.
I had already put this into the next draft of the guide.
"Do not just rely on this document, do more research, it is only meant to be a basic guide."
I had already written on post here that if any off you have any other suggestions for suitable radioactive contamination food testing equipment please let us know. So if you have more info you can contribute please do!
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Vital1….ok fair enough.
Thanks for responding. Steven also listed a refurbished 1 inch scintillation crystal with a new PMT (PhotoMultiplier Tube) for 540$
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180859467658
That was a brilliant deal and gets something far more sensitive than anything in the hand held device league, and allows easy identification of Cs137.
At least this system opens the door and later a person with this system can add any other detector to the system. But it is a good starting point. For instance, from here it is possible to increase the scope of the system by buying a new pancake style detector from any supplier like Ludlum for around 600$ or get an ultra sensitive 3 inch crystal Sodium Iodide detector.
I believe If the 1700$ figure is used, it might be the 2 inch crystal which is huge and amazingly sensitive able to do lightning fast identification. I believe he found a manufacturer of these 2 Inch Sodium Iodide crystal detectors at a better price than Ludlum, and the quality was supposed to be better also.
The point is, that any detector from any manufacturer can be plugged into this neat little 250 dollar bias, leaving the seeker to add the detectors of their own choice later to increase the scope of their system. There is another system which does this and that is from Spectrum Techniques.
These guys supply a bias like Steves and software, but the start-up cost is much higher. Still reasonable in view of…
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….the extensive customer support.
http://www.spectrumtechniques.com/products.htm
From the page you will find they cater for a wide variety of applications and also supply important "check sources" to calibrate a Geiger/Pancake or provide reference check discs for calibrating a gamma spectrometry system.
Tom at antiprons youtube channel i mentioned earlier uses the Spectrum Techniques system, but there is another who has recently started up using the bias Steve makes and purchased her own 2 inch Sodium Iodide detector.
She writes.
"Published on Apr 5, 2012 by bionerd23
for this gamma spectrometer, you only need a computer with a soundcard and a scintillation detector… and the "gamma spectacular" box, or – if you're good with electronics – you can even build the interface yourself (see below).
i tried tapping into my ludlum 3's circuit – but while an oscilloscope saw the proper pulses, my soundcard just saw gibberish. unable to fix this, i decided to finally purchase the "gamma spectacular" – and am more than happy with it! =)
the "gamma spectacular" is made and offered by Steven Sesselmann:
http://beeresearch.com.au/
Steven's youtube channel with lots of helpful videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/beeresearch/
the FREE "pulse recorder / analyzer" as well as "intune" software is made by Marek Dolleiser:
http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~marek/ "
The video associated with the quoted text"
http://www.youtube…
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Spectrometising,
Yes, I was going to purchase a Cesium 137 check source from spectrumtechniques to calibrate the unit.
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My apologies for any seemingly emotional outburst Vital1
I cannot contain myself like the well packaged expensive units….
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The Video associated with quoted text.
"a simple but fully portable sound card gamma spectrometer! "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPeKkzhf2TU
As i said earlier, any high quality detector can usually plugged straight into the Bias to simply record and log pulses from a Geiger tube or for a gamma spectrometry system.
So it can be the basis for a very sensitive Geiger/Pancake style detector counter with a large Geiger tube detector as well a the basis for a spectrometry system.
Or for a ultra sensitive plastic scintillator to detect beta, gamma, or alpha with a ZnS scintillation screen.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/iradinc/m.html?item=260928100434&viewitem=&_trksid=p4340.l2562
http://www.qsl.net/k0ff/2%20Inch%20Plastic%20Scintillator%20Kit/
http://www.ludlums.com/images/stories/price_list/LMI%20Price%20List.pdf
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Spectrometising,
Thanks for all the great links.
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update on tepco whistleblower intervew with extra points mentioned…
My thought on restarting the nuclear reactors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KweAbgyECA&context=C496cbadADvjVQa1PpcFNNpxhy7GIedgk2eH4YIn-pXd0muUm4tCk=
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TY, arclight.
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Longmont, CO
198 CPM, 1.6078 uSv/h, 1.2755 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
7:17 PM – 14 Apr 12
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 1.0584 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
6:57 PM – 14 Apr 12
174 CPM, 1.4129 uSv/h, 1.2417 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
5:37 PM – 14 Apr 12
198 CPM, 1.6078 uSv/h, 1.2081 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
4:57 PM – 14 Apr 12
host pc script was stuck. Fixed! Data flowing again.
4:08 PM – 14 Apr 12
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Greenhouse Gas Emission of European Pressurized Reactor (EPR)
Nuclear Power Plant Technology: A Life Cycle Approach
“…This study applied a process life cycle assessment (LCA) method for studying hidden emissions (mainly GHG emissions) of European Pressurized Reactor (EPR) nuclear power on the basis of Thailand for about the next 10 years and also investigated the energy consumption
as well as waste produce throughout its life cycle. The study is
divided into four sections regarding the life cycle study method….”
On the table that gives amounts of output into the environment the levels of NO2 given out in the waste process come to 354 kg/ton UeO2
This got me thinking about the correlation in NO2 levels in London and emmissions from nuclear power plants!
This link should show a graph of NO2 levels that roughly correspond with the recent pollution warning and levels of contamination gleaned on eurdep and citizen gieger readings..
http://www.londonair.org.uk/london/asp/basicgraphs.asp?region=0&site=KC3&sitename=Kensington_and_Chelsea__Knightsbridge&period=30_day&graphdate=14/04/2012&species=All&graphtype=Java#
you will notice that the levels bottomed out over the week and then have began to rise as the winds from sizewell have swung around to London…
cont
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….its only a theory and the Thailand report link is useful for working out annual outputs of contamination for this type of reactor.. the NO2 seems to mainly from the waste process so maybe it is similar to other types of reactors??
The winds set to change early Monday. The winds come from the west and on Tuesday they head south to north bring French contamination.. a storm then hopefully breaks this up.. will have to wait and see..
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duhh !! heres the link to the excellent report
no nukes never!
http://www.jseejournal.com/JSEE%202011/JSEE%20Vol%202%20Issue%202/6.%20Greenhouse%20gas%20emission%20pp.%2045-50.pdf
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Can someone tell me if these are really tomatoes? http://pic.twitter.com/Zgi2dkQg
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Brandywine tomatoes. I'm a vegetable. I will post more usless pictures tonight.
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usless = useless. Paranoia, brain fog, inability to concentrate, rash all over body, lost 20 lbs. I need some fluoride, maybe suck on a tube of toothpaste, or just drink some tap water. Maybe camp out next to a reactor, and bath in the warm river. Take my kids and go fishing, swimming. Get some cheese curd and some Orio cookies. Pay my taxes to the country I serve, rest assured they have my back.
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Oreo cookies with milk and cheese, drinking sweet California wine, roasting salmons from Alaska over a fire. Cooler full of ice cold sping water. Lamb chops ready to go tomorrow.
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Bottled Crystal spring water. Our should it be fresh from the mountains of Fiji.
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CB, i don't have a Twitter account so i could not view the tomatoes. However, i do have this information.
Latest pandemic threat – tomato flu
"In a report on this BBC website the news of the latest serious threat to world health has been broken. Tomato flu has arrived. Here follows a summary of what can be learnt from the major news networks:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaZoGv7zOTU
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Obvious paid actors, with bullshit propaganda. STFU
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Longmont, CO, a lot of rain tonight.
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 1.2877 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
3:28 AM – 15 Apr 12
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 1.1069 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
3:08 AM – 15 Apr 12
192 CPM, 1.5590 uSv/h, 1.3256 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
11:58 PM – 14 Apr 12
192 CPM, 1.5590 uSv/h, 1.2505 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
11:28 PM – 14 Apr 12
168 CPM, 1.3642 uSv/h, 1.2834 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
10:58 PM – 14 Apr 12
192 CPM, 1.5590 uSv/h, 1.2027 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
10:48 PM – 14 Apr 12
198 CPM, 1.6078 uSv/h, 1.3603 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
9:57 PM – 14 Apr 12
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 0.9920 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
9:27 PM – 14 Apr 12
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Longmont, CO, extremely windy now:
240 CPM, 1.9488 uSv/h, 1.4037 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
8:49 AM – 15 Apr 12
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Anne, my theory that large amounts of stuff, including uranium and plutonium was dropped on the land, and that during wind storms, it would re-aerosolize.
Do you think that might be the case here.
Keep in mind uranium is not too radioactive, but is very dangerous as a heavy metal. high click reading due to uranium would be a big concern.
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hey arclight, Do you think Italy is catching more of a break in Europe? I find myself eating more of their imported food…it's always delicious, too!…
Thanks for keeping us posted on that amazing continent!~
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hi alasanon
italy has got some issues with nedical science reactors but havent pinned it down cos they switch off!! the air quality is a bigger problem than bioaccummulation unless you live in budapest and maybe some parts of turkey and a few other hot spots… if you are unsure just minimise your intake and counter with a good fibre diet and loads of apple juice etc dont know if it helps but it should keep your motions regular and thats supposed to be a good thing??
unfortunately i have to report a possible demise of the eurdep mapping system .. it is only working behind a password protected server.. at least the nuke workers will know how to peotect their families.. i hope they make use of it!! i know the ptb will be using it!
are using it!
to protect their families and financial interests!
we need people to start posting gieger data on the web.. to replace this information source.. or wait for a whistleblower! most sad!
and not a squeak from anti nuke europe… i tried to contact the uk mob but it seems to be outside everyones remit!! ??
so eurdep goes with a whimper! i think all the other monitors around the world had more response..!! and to cap it all criirad seems to be not showing the pdfs anymore and have only posted some work they are doing in uranium mining !? no mention of turkey and the word earthquake! thought greenpeace would be right on that one!!
what do you make of my above theory on NO2 and the connection with nuke waste? how to…
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Hawaii, Oahu
Inside house, with HEPA filter, 8 hour run
23 CPM average.
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Longmont, CO
168 CPM, 1.3642 uSv/h, 1.2798 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
11:31 PM – 15 Apr 12
174 CPM, 1.4129 uSv/h, 1.1730 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
11:11 PM – 15 Apr 12
228 CPM, 1.8514 uSv/h, 1.4329 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
10:21 PM – 15 Apr 12
186 CPM, 1.5103 uSv/h, 1.1378 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
8:30 PM – 15 Apr 12
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 1.3070 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
6:50 PM – 15 Apr 12
174 CPM, 1.4129 uSv/h, 1.2816 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
6:30 PM – 15 Apr 12
240 CPM, 1.9488 uSv/h, 1.3262 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
6:10 PM – 15 Apr 12
162 CPM, 1.3154 uSv/h, 1.0608 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
5:40 PM – 15 Apr 12
198 CPM, 1.6078 uSv/h, 1.1464 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
4:40 PM – 15 Apr 12
198 CPM, 1.6078 uSv/h, 1.1155 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
3:00 PM – 15 Apr 12
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51 uSv/hr at Fukushima City railway station:
http://twitter.com/#!/s_hiroki24/status/191672530568871938/photo/1
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Graphic representation of radiation in rain in St. Louis, http://www.potrblog.com/ :
http://i42.tinypic.com/js20lw.jpg
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Trip to Atlanta from Palatka, FL. 4/15/12
5-reading averages on SOEKS.
Palatka .10 McSv.
Lake City .08.
Valdosta .16 with a spike to .27.
Macon .12.
Atlanta .12.
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end of eurdep?? Part 1/2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lswke-Lnc
end of eurdep?? Part 2/2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6bWEtDcRDA
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arclight, CRIIRAD is still working over here.
EURDEP looks like it's history.
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looks like your on criirad duty !! i still cant get the full finished pdf!!?? looks like ive been kettled.. again!!??? oh dear… what to do now??
did leave a full list of monitoring stations on the bottom of the links list
for a start.. bit out of date though… no eurdep 
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wow i really cant access the data pdf and get any data?? have i been stopped?? have tried links in both browswers and same thing…???
i can get to the rest of the site though???
even sadder was eurdep disappearing without so much as a whimper
part 1 video 40 views
part 2 (conclusion) video 21 views
no news about it anywhere!! and clouds of contamination wafting across the uk and denmrk (confirmed)
posters are getting marked as spamm and the you tube videos are sticking again!! and visit numbers have reduced since i introduced the words turkey and earthquake and nuclear accident! funny that
eh ??? time for a tea! ;/
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Maybe you should try Foxit reader or something, here is Avignon river water iodine:
http://balisescriirad.free.fr/Resultats_%20mesures/avieaui.pdf
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Longmont, CO
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 1.4052 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
6:51 PM – 16 Apr 12
174 CPM, 1.4129 uSv/h, 1.3487 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
6:41 PM – 16 Apr 12
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 1.2846 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
6:31 PM – 16 Apr 12
156 CPM, 1.2667 uSv/h, 1.1076 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
6:21 PM – 16 Apr 12
234 CPM, 1.9001 uSv/h, 1.4096 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
6:01 PM – 16 Apr 12
156 CPM, 1.2667 uSv/h, 1.0453 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
5:31 PM – 16 Apr 12
198 CPM, 1.6078 uSv/h, 1.3831 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
3:41 PM – 16 Apr 12
168 CPM, 1.3642 uSv/h, 1.1585 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
3:31 PM – 16 Apr 12
162 CPM, 1.3154 uSv/h, 1.1261 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
3:11 PM – 16 Apr 12
150 CPM, 1.2180 uSv/h, 0.9561 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
2:20 PM – 16 Apr 12
https://twitter.com/LongmontRadMon
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hi anne.. wow you still keep getting those larger numbers.
i don't know what effect it will have, but it's strikingly higher then my environment (as we've discussed before).
considering the unkkown effects.. i'd being making tracks out of the area, and telling everyone else to follow, if they care.
maybe ask this woman what she thinks …
http://nuclearliteracy.org/caldicott-encounter/
Kallie Metzger
Kallie Metzger is a graduate fellow studying Nuclear Engineering at the University of South Carolina. She is a first year PhD student interested in the development and fabrication of advanced fuels. In 2009, she graduated with a B.S. in Physics from the Honors College at the University of South Carolina. Kallie first became interested in nuclear engineering after her junior year, during a Nuclear Reactor Physics study abroad course in Germany. She credits operating the TRIGA reactor and witnessing Cherenkov radiation first hand with spurning her interest in nuclear physics and nuclear energy.
… more on Kallie ….
Kallie Metzger is an NRC fellow studying Nuclear Engineering
http://nuclearliteracy.org/nuclear-all-stars/kallie
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london radiation alert 17 april 2012
at about 21.00 hrs gmt i noticed an increas in the average.. at ten oclock i got my first rise to 0.20 mcSv/h.. driving past buckingham palace 0.20 mcSv/h
i drove around london and got a consistant rise to 0.18 and 0.20 mcSv/h.. when i got home i noticed the 0.20 mcSv/h staying and i got the camera out and videoed the results.. the video was alittle bit long so i cut the end a little bit to match the music otherwise its untouched..
o.50 mcSv/h!!
either they pulled the top of penly or its waste reprocessing in la hague! maybe the nNO2 increase points to that? i videoed the graph for you to decide and heres the link that connects N02 and waste processing if your feeling nerdie!
http://www.jseejournal.com/JSEE%202011/JSEE%20Vol%202%20Issue%202/6.%20Greenh…
and heres the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4tDQ_AOgVg
video done just after midnight.. night release??
range after rain 0.10 to 0.19 mcSv/h with moderate peaks to 0.37 mcSv/h
average about 0.15 mcSv/h
hope you like the music!
good morning!!
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the bottom range and average is from 09.00 hrs gmt.. sorry not clear!
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the rain this morning is no different to the high background after tissue test….
while eurdep is off the nuke companies are free to do what they like.. especially as the word nuclear is censored by the media generally!! and they are making the most of it!! the switch offs for private eurdep are still ongoing but with no oversight from anyone that matters!!
london olympics in this radioactive dust bowl!? interesting.. wonder if anyone will come??
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and i thought anne was posting high levels.
do you ever see below 0.10? Because I get that as average outdoor here in Sydney. Rarely do I see 0.08 anymore.
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the winds have changed by the coast and channel the winds are comings from westerly and slightly southerly wind direction and the rads dropped after the morning post at 09.00 hrs gmt
range now 0.09 to 0.16 mcSv/h and its raining again.. the rain apparently comes from the atlantic (west) did a tissue check but same as background! the winds are set to change back to a south to north incline on wedneday lunchtime.. no peaks as they have been washed out and i think iodine 131 maybe with those heavy strikes on the mueler tube or ceasium?? milk of the menu again..
heads up norway etc!!
average now 1t 13.00 hrs gmt 0.12 mcSv/h
we have lost the bottom end since mercoule and hungary! in the summer.. go to the start of the thread in the archives above for early gieger readings i used to get lower values too!
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Inspectors stay on at EdF’s Penly nuclear site
10 Apr
Perpignan, 10 April (Argus) — French state-controlled utility EdF says its inspection team at the 2.6GW Penly nuclear facility is at the early stages of an investigation into the failure of a cooling system that caused the shut-down of one of its reactors. But the incident at the site has been graded at the lowest level by EdF, with the company saying there was no escape of any radioactive materials.
http://www.argusmedia.com/pages/NewsBody.aspx?id=793140&menu=yes
The company's inspection team today began to photograph and look for damage at reactor No 2 at Penly, close to Dieppe in northwestern France. EdF said the unit will remain in cold shut-down for up to another seven days. EdF said the incident will be graded a level one type, the lowest possible, the highest being a type seven event. Tests will also be carried out today on surrounding grass and farmlands to check for any radioactive contamination, with the sample results likely by the end of the week.
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the background radioactivity report from the french part of Switzerland
:
made the 10 min Soeks-walk,
the outside values between 0.12mcSv/h and 0.15mcSv/h,
the highest reading 0.16mcSv/h, seen only once.
no peaks.
woow, what a day, is it my birthday? lol
since sunday 8h the winds are almost exclusively from NE, very few E.
the readings are not so high as the last week, but are still high compared to the historical 0.09mcSv/h and today's official 0.11mcSv/h.
is there no more clean air left?
the winds are changing, as well as London this part of the continent should get its part of Penly's pollution from today on!
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hi margot the contamination is likely from france and heading north to norway sweden etc a high cloud lasting twenty minutes was seem in denmark so this is getting around with the fast moving winds we had earlier.. the winds set to head south on wednesday.. watch out then!!
thanks for the update and glad to see the levels lower down threre in the south and up there in the mountains.. maybe the turkey reactor has stopped erupting?? hope so!
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Longmont, CO
198 CPM, 1.6078 uSv/h, 1.0730 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
3:23 PM – 17 Apr 12
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 1.2919 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
2:23 PM – 17 Apr 12
222 CPM, 1.8026 uSv/h, 1.3773 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
1:43 PM – 17 Apr 12
234 CPM, 1.9001 uSv/h, 1.3026 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
8:33 AM – 17 Apr 12
264 CPM, 2.1437 uSv/h, 1.4079 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
8:03 AM – 17 Apr 12
174 CPM, 1.4129 uSv/h, 1.1504 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
11:02 PM – 16 Apr 12
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london radiation alert (yes another alert!!) 18 april 2012 with london air quality fraud comments..
Pollution suppression in London: flawed or fraud?
approx 13 april 2012
"The Campaign for Clean Air in London (CAL) has upped the ante in its assault on the London Mayor's office over the use of so-called dust suppressants: chemicals which can temporarily reduce airborne pollutants in localized pockets, presenting evidence that their use is targeted at air monitoring stations in what it brands "public health fraud on an industrial scale."…."
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/04/the-campaign-for-clean-air.ars
and heres the video with comments and gieger count!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CacQe4xUxw
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Longmont, CO
192 CPM, 1.5590 uSv/h, 1.4782 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
7:55 PM – 17 Apr 12
192 CPM, 1.5590 uSv/h, 1.3973 AVG uSv/h, 5 time(s) over natural radiation
7:45 PM – 17 Apr 12
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5 times over background, Anne? That's pretty disturbing. Do you find this corresponds with the Jet Stream overhead, the wind direction, precipitation or? Or is it due to the high elevation, solar flares or? Does the reading decay away quickly, which would point to radon decay? Just curious to hear what you believe are the causes.
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WATKids, There are a number of causes. The background radiation talked about is not the level at other communities, but the much higher background radiation for Longmont which already includes the radon.
http://www.exstrom.com/bcrad1.html
They may be venting radiation from Fort St Vrain nuclear power plant to the NE which was decommissioned just one year after its startup because of malfunction. This nuclear power plant is still storing the live fuel which was only in use one year. It is AIR COOLED. The readings seem to correlated to the evening and night hours
SIDS play some role:
What's really interesting is that I also have a SIDS system (solar storm) running and you can see many of the radiation peaks coincide with spikes on SIDS. Until I started running these together I never realised just how much solar radiation plays a part at altitude."
"Hi! Thanks for stopping by. Yeah we do have a fair bit here because of the altitude, uranium, radon, and Rocky Flats… for starters.
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I read somewhere that HAARP also at times works to enhance SIDS events. (Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances)
Also one part of the HAIL network for HAARP is in Boulder. So we are zapped every time there is weather manipulation to the east of Boulder between Boulder and the east coast, and this channels additional radiation from the jet stream and Fukushima to Boulder and Longmont.
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The wind carries radiation as well as the rain and snow, and there are elevated readings during these events.
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http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/propagation/ionospheric/sid-sudden-ionospheric-disturbance.php
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HAARP And How Fukushima Radiation Beamed Down To Australia
http://rense.com/general95/haarp1.html
HAIL: Holographic Array for Ionospheric Lightning
http://www-star.stanford.edu/~vlf/hail/hail.htm
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Thanks for your reply, and information, Anne.
These things simply CANNOT be healthy for living things! Who is calling the shots here? Are the various agencies, military branches, nuclear power plant operators, weather manipulators, radar broadcasters, etc, etc, coordinating their efforts or even communicating with each other?
Where are the health impact studies on these things? Isn't anyone concerned about causing epidemic-sized health issues in people, animals and plants by all this bombardment of radiation, ionizing and non-ionizing alike, as well as the added barium, aluminum and silver oxide we are forced to breathe thanks to the ongoing practice of chemtrail spraying? (For those new here, Google "chemtrail" or view the thousands of videos on YouTube about this mysterious practice of spraying our skies which no official agencies will talk about.)
This is getting more ridiculous by the minute…I really feel like we've stepped into the Twilight Zone…Somebody, wake me up from this baaaad dream already! Sheeesh!
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Yes, WATK's,..Twilight Zone it is!
I'll post this on anomalies thread also,…just got off the tele with my best friend, (one of my son's old buddies whom I helped raise-26). I asked him about the 9 vials of blood his Dr. drew from him last month,…and I knew in advance,…but WTF. These were his words,…"I have bad T-3 and T-4 numbers,…something about my thyroid. And I have too many of one kind of blood cell, and not enough of the other. I have no testosterone, and my cholesterol is way off, whatever ALL that means".
I am going over there tomorrow to have a look at the blood work reports and try to talk to him.
I asked him if his hair is falling out, and he got deadly quiet. He said, "Yes, as a matter of fact,…especially in the shower when I wash it. My drain has never had this much hair in it in four years I've lived here". So it begins!
I am numb. I truly have no feelings right now–like I've been stripped! I know the DAY/NIGHTMARE we are entering,…as do most here. We could write the bloody script! But, not the ending! I'll see Gary again no matter what happens. His sister Cara is waiting with my Ashley,…..so we'll all be fine.
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Oh Man SJ, I am distraught to read this. This just isn't right. This is HUGE. I experience this numbness with you (all). Its getting kind of creepy…
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Yes truthseek, ,,,you nailed it, "Creepy".
And, we seem to be being called upon to be 'witnesses'. I was going to say, 'silent witnesses', but I know us (me) too well!
We're the new historians.
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Sorry to hear about your baby, StillJill! They are our babies if we help raise them. I hope that it is temporary for him. The new historians, you are so right, again! Who else is telling this story?
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Oh my dear, StillJill. My heart is so saddened to hear this latest news about your friend,
He is just 26 and is experiencing these things? How can this be?
You say you helped raise him, and that both his sister and your daughter have passed on. Did they have similar illnesses?
I'm wondering, with all these health issues your family and close friend have been experiencing, if you and your family hadn't been exposed to radiation many years ago, when your children were still young?
I remember you mentioning your ex-husband had worked on a nuclear submarine. Could he have been exposed and somehow brought radiaton home where you and your children became affected by it?
Or did you live at any point near a nuclear reactor? Where were you living while raising your children?
Just trying to understand how so many illnesses could affect one family. Exposure to Fuku radiation fallout since 3/11 certainly doesn't help, but if your young friend had already been exposed to radiation prior to Fuku, then any additional radiation exposure from Fuku could be that additional "dose" that is the tipping point for his immune system.
Just speculating, but seems that such a young person (outside of Japan) would not be one to already show signs of radiation exposure so early on in this Fuku disaster…
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts…
Sending BIG {{{hugs}}} and keeping you and your friend in my thoughts and prayers. xoxo
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Anne,
A few final (rhetorical) questions:
Who gives these people the right to play God???
Who do they think they are???
By engaging in these activities, are they helping us or hurting us and living things on our planet? Do they even know? Is anyone in charge asking these questions?
And lastly, do they even CARE???
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Thank you for these links, Anne
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Lettuce test 4-16-2012 radiation monitor
Found a few HOT spots on the cut-up lettuce for my salad…Eventually making it up to 78 c.p.m. Starting to suspect more food my be contaminated. A Great Poisoning is upon us…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7hCpvtzVig
Yellowfin tuna canned & live radiation monitor test 4-12-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o7toQGTK1U&feature=relmfu
Test 2 Wild Alaska Salmon Radiation Monitor 4-1-2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_wPxx4pHVM&feature=relmfu
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If you pick up radioactive food contamination with a Geiger Counter it should not be consumed! It has to be pretty contaminated above food safety levels to be detected by a Geiger Counter.
I am updating free Geiger Counter Use Guide with more useful info. I won't post the update until the cost effective scintillator food testing kit I am researching arrives. I will then give a step by step progress report on how effective is. It will take 6/7 weeks before it arrives. It takes that long to get the scintillator after ordering it.
Free Geiger Counter Use Guide
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contamination.pdf
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Bless your heart for all your efforts to be helpful in our radiation monitoring efforts, Vital1.
Wish I had a Geiger Counter. I am very anxious to know what my child may be exposed to in our home and yard. Hmm..wondering if anyone rents them in Seattle? Just an idea…
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Vancouver, BC. nothing much has changed, background still around .11 µSv using a Soeks 01M definately more "spikes" indoors then out. Anyone else see that? I still suspect wifi cell phones etc.
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I am hearing you Mark, I have come to suspect the same.
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Second hot postage item detection in a couple weeks. This time it was an International posted item. It was sent from Ontario Canada and routed through Los Angeles.
The box and the contents where clear but the postage paper documentation from the postal service had hot spots on it.
As per my previous freight parcel detection seems to be imbedded in the paper. These detections where not large around 2x my background.
So check the paper coming into your house!
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Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf (or create your own), hand it out, mailbox it, or email it.
Put it everywhere, libraries, notice boards, web pages, forums, Facebook,
and tweet! Think outside the box.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf
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vital1,
In that vein, I am now convinced that toilet paper is contaminated. I have been dreading this.
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Bobby1,
Haven't detected any in the toilet paper here yet.
Yes, not something to look forward to.
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Leather also.
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I didn't even think about postage, toilet paper, and leather. Thanks, I am getting a geiger for my birthday.
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Warning: Porcelain water storage vessels/dispensers from China may be highly radioactive. This is the type that holds about 2 1/2 gallons.
These water containers should not be on the market! This is on the order of selling tissue boxes full of Cobalt 60 at Bed, Bath, and Beyond, IMHO!
I just made the highly unpleasant discovery the porcelain water dispensers for bottled water I have are highly radioactive.
Gamma and Beta measurements are very high. Beta measured an average of .225 mSv/hr
It might even be higher than that; I quit testing after about two minutes.
This goes back to the distributor TODAY. Am taking my Geiger Counter (Inspector Extreme) with me today so I can show the distributor the measurements vs. background. He's a really nice and ethical man, who is deeply concerned about water purity. He's invested in his work, and I think he's likely to be very unhappy about this. I am! I've been drinking highly purified water for over a year, only to have it stored in radioactive vessels.
The other possibility is there's a lot of radiation in the water, and the vessel is absorbing it.
Will have to see how the vessels check out compared to new ones he has there, if they're from the same manufacturer.
Posting to Monitoring and Radiation Protection forums. If anyone knows of legal action that can be taken, or government enforcement measures that can be taken, please post here to let me know.
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hey HoTaters… you measuring in micro or millisieverts?
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Chemfood, it's Microsieverts. I used the wrong symbol in my haste to get out of here and on the road today. Darn! I need to be more careful.
I know this sounds goofy, but I haven't figured out how to type the "micro" symbol using a Windows-based keyboard.
I really need to be more attentive to the units. Sorry. Glad you caught that! I wondered if I'd posted it right when I made my mad dash for the door earlier today!
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Hi HoTaters Are you concerned about posting your readings? I have been waiting to see what you find because I am in your neck of the woods. I just keep checking and you never seem to post your readings on food or air? Now, I think it is because of concern about getting in trouble? I haven't heard of legal actions but who knows? Can I email you? I may have your address from a previous post so no need to republish. Thanks, and thanks for the info on the water storage vessel. yikes
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Greetings, Net! Need to re-establish Hushmail account. If you don't use it, you lose it! Will post it ASAP. Whoopie has e-mail addr & OK to ask her for my personal e-mail if you can find hers.
Since rain stopped — beta is averaging about .045 to .065 mSv/hr. That's ~ 4-5 times lower than when it rains. Need to determine how daughters effect these readings. When jet stream overhead it pushes readings up to 2-3 times "normal" background even when it's not raining. "Normal" because nothing's normal post-Fukushima!
Today I got derailed because I discovered the water dispenser (porcelain) I purchased (actually 2 of them) are "hot" and measure about 5 times normal background radiation.
Now I need to do follow up with the fellow I purchased one of them from. He has many years of engineering background & is interested in how the high readings are showing up in his products. He's concerned.
Today I gave him a quick run-down of linear no dose threshold and internal emitters, the DoE model (health physics model) of radiation exposure, and tried to explain why I thought the EPA and other US federal govt. agencies are not monitoring radiation in food and products imported into the US. Had to put it in that context to make it understandable to a nuclear "layman."
Anyway I've been REALLY BUSY. Need to learn my Inspector Extreme manual inside out and know how to have an intelligent conversation with an engineer, i.e., answer questions like what are pCl…
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Net, just refer Whoopie to this post in case she isn't sure about giving out my personal e-mail address. I'll give you a Hushmail address later! If I can write to her tomorrow AM before going out on my jaunt, I'll let her know you may be asking for my e-mail address. Just can't post the personal one here (for obvious reasons).
Thanks neighbor!
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Net, I can't post on food because I have an Inspector Extreme (w/o the pancake probe) and it isn't sensitive enough to get readings from food. Water and air, yes, and can measure near surface of bodies of water, and soils.
Have had to deal with some personal life issues lately, so I haven't been on top of posting local readings. My apologies!
Also "editorializing" on the state of SPF #4 and so forth, so I've gone a bit far afield from taking local readings, lately.
Would like to find out if there's a local lab that can do reliable testing of foodstuffs ….
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Hi HoTaters, Thank you for your responses.
I have noticed that you have been quite busy responding to SPF #4. Great info from you and Whoopie. I learn a lot. Unfortunately, it is very depressing. I too have been busy, and I can't always keep up on everything going on. I try to read this site at least every other day. I wish you well on everything going on in your life. Take care!
ps: I worry about my dinnerware made in China – the glaze is cobalt blue.
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All the other porcelain vessels tested at the sales facility tested very high in beta levels. So it appears the porcelain is very "hot" at 4-5 times normal background levels. These things are being imported from China by multiple manufacturers.
This begs the question: are the sources of clay, glazes, etc., just naturally high in radiation? Or are contaminated materials being used?
Is this problem just limited to water vessels? Are they from a certain region, or is this a problem common to all Chinese porcelains?
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Hi all, looking for advice on a geiger counter for home/farm use. We are trying to keep it in the @$500 or less range but still as reliable as possible. Anyone with reviews/opinions?
Thanks much, Peace, Goatherd Jim
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@goatherdjim: though your question is posted in the correct forum, I'd advise finding one-or-two of the most active ones to post this important question. You can request that responses be mirrored within this forum. Good hunting…
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Thanks Aftershock, I will give that a try. Goatherd
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Firstly it is important to have a Geiger counter that can detect, alpha, beta, and gamma radiation. Purchase as sensitive a unit as you can afford.
An Inspector Exp Geiger Counter with its sensitive pancake probe is more likely to detect radioactive food contamination than most standard commercial Geiger counters.
A pancake probe has a larger detecting area that a normal Geiger tube.
A Geiger Counter with a sensitive pancake probe can be a much quicker at screening food or items because of the much bigger detection window.This means you can cover a bigger surface area quicker.
It will cost more than $500, around $739
http://www.geigercounters.com/index.htm
http://www.geigercounters.com/EXP2.htm
http://www.geigercounters.com/CompareModels.htm
These tech group sites can offer some good advice, and may suggest purchasing something completely different.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GeigerCounterEnthusiasts/
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/GammaSpectrometry/
I use a Gammascout cost $489 considered a bit of an industry standard. Doesn't have the advantage of a pancake probe supplied with the Inspector Exp but cheaper.
http://www.gammascout.com
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Here is a free Geiger Counter Use Guide, do not just rely on this Guide, do more research. It is only meant to be a basic guide to get people started.
I will be adding more to this guide in the future. You will be able to get the latest version from this site here.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contamination.pdf
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Don't know if anyone else has responded, but some info. posted at forums here on building your own unit. Also low cost units. You can also check the Radiation Network for suggestions.
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goatherdjim,…I think the "Inspector" is the one most here speak about. I also see the Inspector on many of the videos. I also think they cost within that range of $500.00.
But I sure could be all washed up as I am a poor chic with no rad counter!
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Thanks StillJill, I have seen that one on some of the sites. Will check it out. Goatherd
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530 amazon
got 2, sent 1 to Japan
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hi goatherdjim… everyone
A small collection of invaluable Geiger counter info
including models, reviews and how to use them
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/topic,20.msg463.html#msg463
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That's awesome 'stock"!
(Sent one to Japan!)
How cool is that!?!
Way cool!
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Longmont, CO
240 CPM, 1.9488 uSv/h, 1.2595 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
5:13 PM – 20 Apr 12
https://twitter.com/LongmontRadMon
https://pachube.com/feeds/30643
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anne,
Is this just a hot time or the average there now ?
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xdrfox, This is just one reading. You can see if you look at the graphs at:
http://radmon.stan4d.net/
and
https://pachube.com/feeds/30643
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Wow, is that really 1.25 uSv/hr, or .125 ? Looks hot, but I may be getting confused by the units you're using.
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They aren't my readings. They are posted by a professional at the links which I include each time I copy and paste his readings. And it is 1.25 uSv/hr if you will look back at the links and see his setup.
And you can double check at the links to see where the copy and paste come from.
I don't understand why people are insulting when they themselves haven't bothered to check out the posted links.
Just saying.
https://twitter.com/LongmontRadMon
http://radmon.stan4d.net/
https://pachube.com/feeds/30643
These links provide explanations, 10 minute postings and historical graphs.
Fukushima is real and deadly. If individuals had the money I'm sure that such a set up to read the radiation would be enlightening all over the world.
Stop all nukes now. The window is closing rapidly, much more rapidly than climate change which is being caused by these very nuclear facilities and our natural resources are being rapidly depleted irreversibly by the pollution from nuclear power plants.
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I'm so sorry Anne!
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Traveling. 4/20/12 SOEKS 5-reading averages. one meter height.
Atlanta, GA .20 mcSv.
Jonesboro, GA .19 mcSv
Macon, GA .20 mcSv spiking to .27
Valdosta, GA .14 mcSv
Lake City, FL .10 mcSv
Platka, FL .12 mcSv
North and central GA elevated compared to last Sunday.
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Hi Risabee!
What's in Georgia that might be causing these higher readings? Are you near any nuclear reactors?
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Well, along that route are many military bases …
I was visiting my granddaughters (I'm from Oregon and taking care of my dad in FL). My son, a 44-year old businessman and world traveler, helped me bring in my things and I said, "no , that's not a cell phone, that's my Geiger counter." He found it hilarious that I would carry such a thing. This is sad, because he's the smartest person in the entire extended family … so we left it in the car.
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Thanks, Risabee. I think maybe as the Fuku fallout issues start to be covered more in the mainstream media, your son may come around and start to get curious. You may have to teach him how to use a Geiger Counter one day! ;-D LOL
Anyway, I think you are one sharp lady and a cool grandma to boot! Bet not too many Geiger Counter-packin' grandmothers around these parts.
Keep up the good work, reporting what you find. I appreciate your efforts sharing on this forum.
Have a good visit with your family and enjoy the weekend.
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The La Nina weather pattern that has been keeping the radiation in the southeast at bay somewhat, is now breaking down. Georgia and Florida are becoming like the rest of us now.
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Interesting observation, Bobby1. Thanks! I haven't been following the weather patterns much lately. Good to keep track of them.
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Longmont, CO
168 CPM, 1.3642 uSv/h, 1.0539 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
6:35 AM – 21 Apr 12
210 CPM, 1.7052 uSv/h, 1.3139 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
3:35 AM – 21 Apr 12
162 CPM, 1.3154 uSv/h, 0.9305 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
2:14 AM – 21 Apr 12
180 CPM, 1.4616 uSv/h, 1.2825 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
12:14 AM – 21 Apr 12
192 CPM, 1.5590 uSv/h, 1.1034 AVG uSv/h, 4 time(s) over natural radiation
12:04 AM – 21 Apr 12
https://twitter.com/LongmontRadMon
http://radmon.stan4d.net/
https://pachube.com/feeds/30643
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Australia
Queensland
Caloundra
22nd April 2012
Radioactive cloud detections on the 20th and 21st of April, see daily charts links below.
So far. all our radioactive cloud detections have occurred when the wind has come from the northern tropics. From my observations of the weather radar at the time, on the 20th and 21st, two air masses, a northerly and southerly, meet just north of Caloundra. The Geiger Counter alarm sounded on numerous occasions, indicating radiation levels went above .50 uSv/hr multiple times. These above .50 uSv/hr events where brief and were not recorded by the Geiger Counter data logger. My theory is that when the northerly pressure system pushed a little bit south, we got the radiation detections. When the northerly air mass was pushed north background went back to normal. The radioactive cloud detections are a result of the huge amounts of radiation released by the still active Fukushima Nuclear disaster, breaching the Northern and Southern hemisphere air circulation barrier.
Daily 24 hour background radiation chart 20042012
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/24-hour-background-radiation-chart-20042012.jpg
Daily 24 hour background radiation chart 21042012
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/24-hour-background-radiation-chart-21042012.jpg
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Full local historical local background level information is available here.
http://sccc.org.au/archives/2630
Free Geiger Counter Use Guide
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contamination.pdf
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Dam it! Everything was looking good, our background had gone down to near normal. It is such a dramatic contrast on the chart view because our background levels where low when the detections occurred.
Anne would be looking at this and saying that is nothing compared to what I am getting.
Anne, you really should make plans to relocate if you can.
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wow.. 0.50 .. damn.
and getting close to my favourite place in the world, byron. (i mean, caloundra is nice and all, and that's bad news for queensland etc). but byron .. no way!
i check my meter here in sydney daily. i was showing it to a work mate and the usual questions etc.
i thought, but didn't tell him, that it's really my 'give up on the day job' meter. once a certain threshold has been passed, regularly, then there is little point to continuing with the usual routines.
the question for me is what is that threshold. 0.50 is about what i thought i'd have to start running from. Anne has problems. If we hit 0.50 on a daily basis, we all have problems.
Also, Oz has it's own inherit rads sources, without the fuku/pacific effect. Places like Maralinga probably keep blowing things around the continent, so what's really needed is to find the signature of the source of tha rads.
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The high elevations in the US, the Rockies, Sierras and Cascades, are probably comparable to Fukushima City and Koriyama. They're not like Iitate, Namie and Date city, and the exclusion zone yet. The majority of the rest of the US is like Tokyo… somewhat elevated with hotspots.
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thanks bobby.
any links on those stats, cos their pretty heavy.
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richard, it's just a judgment, based on Geiger readings from Longmont and other places… Longmont is in the Rockies, Arnie has warned about the Cascades, and everything I have learned has indicated higher elevations are the worst.
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ah ok.. thanks bobby.. i don't know that geography that well. i have been noting anne's readings.
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The high elevations of the US are in a very serious situation, they are not just as bad as the very worst of Japan.
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Actually we are 30 miles east of the Rocky Mountains. Our elevation is just below a mile.
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Richard,
"so what's really needed is to find the signature of the source of those rads"
Tried to find out after I first detected these Radioactive clouds passing over Australia by contacting the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency. Sent them all my data, charts, and info about other detections in the Southern Hemisphere.
Took them a a while, and then they replied with the typical Nuclear industry propaganda.
1. Couldn't be Fukushim, it is in cloud shutdown.
2. Probably caused by a solar flare or weather event.
3. Australia has four detection stations and none of these stations have detected anything except for a very, very, very small amount in Darwin just after 3/11.
It was a useless exercise except that I can now say that I did contacted them.
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well done vital.
i'm certainly a layman, no real knowledge on how to check a signature, i'm going by what i've learned.
great that you tried contact. maybe we can wear a path to their door
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Richard,
"but byron .. no way!"
Byron Bay, the most easterly point in Australia, a person there detected 8.0 uSv/hr in January/February 2012, on three occasions. No that is not a typo!
You really need to look at these articles also, to get up to speed on what has been happening in the southern hemisphere.
Dunedin New Zealand
http://sccc.org.au/archives/2517
Caloundra Australia
http://sccc.org.au/archives/2490
Melbourne Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q74OAsV2yPU
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thanks for the heads up vital, i was aware of the dunedin report, got a relo there as well.
that 8.0 for byron is serious. if that was sustained it would be very serious i assume.
sometimes there are hiccups in readings for various reasons.. ah well, who am i to say. jeesh.
that part of the world is a geographic utopia – my world is at the most threatened i've felt in my life. looks like the pearl is being poisoned.
<sarc>i guess it's just an unfounded fear</sarc>
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This will probably continue till the end of May. My guess is that the connection between the northern and southern hemisphere will shut off after that till late November, when it will spike even higher. This is mostly air, when the contaminated water gets down there, it will be an all year thing.
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Hi Bobby1
The latest news of the chemical plant makes me wonder what the hell is going on? (and I do mean hell)
Is the chemical plant situation really an "accident"?
And how many plants have actually melted down?
I saw a man at Costco this week looking at their bins of "prepper" food.
I told him I didn't think that would help.
I'm not even trying to wake my colleagues up any more…
Heard the new song by Lincoln Park?
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I don't know about Lincoln Park, but there are at least two plants now that have emitted depleted uranium, the previous one was in Chiba.
What has melted down , I don't know, 6 reactors in Daiichi, its CSFP, then there is Daini, then there is Tokai and Onagawawa. Who knows any more. All I know is that reactors #1-4 are not sufficient to explain the radiation.
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Not all the lyrics apply but the chorus does:
Lincoln Park Waiting for the End
Waiting for the end to come
Wishing I had strength to stand
This is not what I had planned
It's out of my control
Flying at the speed of light
Thoughts were spinning in my head
So many things were left unsaid
It's hard to let you go
Majia here: I just feel drained and speechless. Not much left to say. Just cannot believe it all…
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SP: My favorite by Linkin Park is Walking Dead:
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/linkinpark/walkingdead.html
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Yes…
You were right Sickputer about the futility of trying to educate people about the disaster.
Now the key for me is to figure out how bad the fallout is going to be and whether the symptoms I see around me are typical flu/allergy symptoms or actually from bio-accumulation.
That is the challenge…
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