FORUM: Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here (Dec. 17, 2011 – Present)

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2,709 comments to FORUM: Post Your Radiation Monitoring Data Here (Dec. 17, 2011 – Present)

  • MadMama MadMama

    Southern California rain this morning (first in quite awhile). Location is 30 miles northwest of downtown Los Angeles, about 4 miles from the ocean. Directly under the jetstream.

    These counts are all for the same sample of overnight rain:
    7:15am – BG = 47.3, 10-minute average = 75.9
    9:30am – BG = 45.5, 10-minute average = 51.1
    7:40pm – BG = 43.2, 10-minute average = 42.7

    So, excess over background entirely shortlived isotopes that have already decayed away.


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    • radegan

      If they’re short lived, wouldn’t that indicate they didn’t come from Fuku? Long way across the Pacific.


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    • Bobby1

      I was looking at the EPA data yesterday, and I noticed very high levels of Lead-212 and Thallium-208 in March and April, especially in Nome, Alaska. Nome is in the area where those ring seals are sick and dying.

      Both of these are short-lived isotopes… they can’t be from natural radon because they spiked to a hundred times normal or more.

      What is strange is that these isotopes are from the THORIUM decay series… how on earth did thorium end up in the air?

      Uranium-232 is part of this series… but U-232 constitutes one-one hundred millionth of the total mass of uranium in nuclear rods. It is an incredibly dangerous isotope btw.

      Could reactor #3 actually be an experimental thorium breeder reactor? The plutonium from the MOX fuel would have been there to kick-start the thorium reaction in this case.

      It sounds too fantastic to be true.


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  • Bobby1

    Beta radiation from Peruvian squid

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/beta-ray-from-squid-of-peru/

    South America is starting to become contaminated now. It corroborates the Australian report of a radiation spike… the southern hemisphere is getting into it.


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  • radegan

    Checking California parsley – can you do it with a geiger counter?

    I have a cast iron dutch oven. I put my geiger counter in a plastic bag and ran a ten minute test in the dutch oven with the lid on. (11cpm) Then I took a load of parsley and put it in the dutch oven and put the bagged geiger counter back in atop the parsley for a ten minute test with the lid on. (10cpm).

    If I had done that on a countertop, I would be testing the entire kitchen’s atmosphere against my small sample. and the power of dilution could give one a false sense of security. But by limiting the test to inside a cast iron pot, I shrank the ‘atmosphere’ to the point where as much of the volume of the dutch oven was taken up with the parsley and geiger counter as with ambient air. I don’t even know if cast iron has any radiation blocking ability – but both baseline and sample test were done inside the dutch oven. Now where can I buy a lead testing box?


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  • LapeerKate

    Hi everyone,
    Yesterday I did test the snow that fell Friday night and am finally posting. I’m still suffering the ‘sit and stare’ effects so I apoligize. My thinking processes feel very slow and seems like extra effort is needed for anything.
    This snow was collected 50 miles northeast of Detroit in Lapeer county. We received about 3″ overnight and my results again followed that same pattern of low cpm in ‘freshly collected’ state vs. high cpm in the ‘melted state’.
    1/21/12 6:52pm EST background 39.1 cpm.
    Fresh snow (in 1 gallon zip lock bag) average 58.8 cpm (scanned over 25 minutes).
    1/21/12 9:26pm EST background 39.1 cpm.
    Melted snow (still in 1 gallon zip lock bag) average 206.6 cpm (scanned over 20 minutes).
    Sure wish I knew what radionuclide(s) I’m getting! Have spent all weekend indoors and wish I didn’t have to go out tomorrow morning. Good luck everybody!


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  • Stacy

    I’m wondering if anyone on this thread can give some insight:
    today our smoke detectors went off for apparently no reason. Has there been any data etc on this happening to others? We have a very good system…so it has nothing to do with batteries or the like.

    Thanks for any thoughts…


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  • vital1

    Technical explanation of “false zero readings” in Geiger Muller tube based radiation detectors. Something we all should be aware of when using a Geiger counter.

    http://radiation.fallout.cz/htm/radmeters.htm Word search for “false zero” in this web page.

    Radiation spike in Australia another suggestion.
    The author Paul Langley also suggests that the dip in the recorded radiation levels just before the spike is because the Geiger counter overloaded. This is called a false zero reading. That is, it went of scale before recovering to a level it could read. This is worrying if true!

    http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/arpansa-responds-to-a-citizens-detection-of-a-radiation-spike-in-queensland-january-2012/


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    5:25PM, Pacific Standard Time, 01/22/12, Fairfield, CA.

    Gamma avg. ~ 0.1 uSv per hr.
    Beta avg. ~ 0.14 uSv per hr.

    That’s as measured standing in the door of my garage. As it’s raining small animals, I’m not interested in going all the way outside to get a reading, right now. It might be a bit higher, farther away. There is a pretty good breeze blowing from the northeast, so am probably picking up most of it ….

    Indoor gamma also ~ 0.1 uSv/hr, spiking up to 0.167, down to 0.155. (Consistent with outdoors.)

    Beta spike just now at 0.173. That’s the highest I’ve seen, so far. Indoor beta averaging around 0.13. That’s not far below outdoor levels, but have had HEPA filter off all day to see what would happen to indoor levels.

    The house is very well sealed up. Went around with a tube of clear silicon caulking, and weatherstripping, back in March. The attic is tight and insulated. The unused electrical outlets are covered up, and things like that.

    Will have to explore the idea there is significant radon, in this area.

    However, the indoor levels and outdoor levels have been much lower when the jet stream isn’t overhead, and it is not raining here.


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Reeling in Colorado,

    The insanity of negativity…what’s it good for?

    We are basically toast world-wide at the fast quickening rate we are going. Did you all read the report about the radiation in the Southern Hemisphere now? I’ve been showing that radnet link to So. America that has readings in the 40’s CPM there. We are fast headed to the ON THE BEACH future and the majority of the sheeple are too dam stupid to see the florescent writing on the wall.

    They voted for the worst of all the CFR Mr. NAFTA globalist and two timing disgraced pigs they could have in yesterdays NC primary. HOW STUPID CAN THOSE PEOPLE BE? HOW STUPID ARE THE AVERAGE AMERIKANS AFTER BREATHING IN ALL THE PLUTONIUM THAT SPREAD ALL ACROSS THE US LAST YEAR IN A HIT AND MISS PATTERN THAT IS SHOWING IT’S UGLY PRESENCE IN THE REPORTS FROM ALL OUR GOOD FOLKS HERE ON ENENEWS THAT ARE REPORTING SICKNESS.

    Staying on topic is hard to do when we are living a multidimensional world, constantly thinking and doing in a multitasking way. So please, excuse the multi-directions this writer goes into.

    Do you care or not? This is a question for anyone left that can still cognitively think from a place of right and proper moral standards and righteous foundations.

    Do you “boo” the Golden Rule, or not?

    Do you want more WAR, or not?


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Cont.

    Fast approaching the who cares zone ahead. War changes everything overnight. Losing resolve for a word of people that do not even care for themselves.

    Indoor check was 49 CPM:

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/indoor49cpm12212.jpg/

    Outdoor was 55 CPM::

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/outside55cpm12212.jpg/

    WARNING! According to micheal collins, my counter is contaminated and I am a amateur who is doing everything wrong, so do not take these readings as valid even though something is making it tick and light up when I turn it on.

    Really getting tired of it all. We are not meant to live in constant daily conflict. All the humanitarianism of the world is fast being drowned out by the candy of ignorance. It is not bliss, and it is not sweet. It is death and destruction, and it is coming to a theater near you soon!


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    • vital1

      James,

      What you are doing is appreciated, keep up the good work. I look forward to your input. I known it can be frustrating at times. That no body seems to be listening.

      There are new people joining or reading enenews all the time. They need good information, and support. The information, and input you provide can save lives, and get others motivated.


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    • alexa

      I am looking forward to reading your interesting posts everyday. Please ignore this guy. Who is he to criticize others? You are a great contributor part of the great enenews community.


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    • Bobby1

      James, your posts are important. Please keep it up, we need as much info as we can get.


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      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Thank you all for the support.

        You are all right on and of course, there is no other course but to forgive and forget.

        Being human is just that.

        To err is human…to forgive is divine.

        Upwards and onwards enenewzers.

        Eyez on de prize!

        Thanks you all again. :)


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  • anne anne

    You have to wait a minute or two for the historical graphs to load at the following site from Longmont (CO) Rad Monitor:
    http://radmon.stan4d.net/

    This is NOT looking good at all!


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  • Estimating1 Estimating1

    so your basement is hvering sround 100cpm? And this is a representation of the outside air? can you check the outside air directly with the same system, for a week maybe and see what you get?
    I have sent some well worded emails to ZMAG asking them to provide a snapshot of what is going on lately, i have, as you guessed, received no response.


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Hello E1,

      You said:

      “so your basement is hvering around 100cpm?”

      Funny thing you mentioned this.

      Went to a friends house and he lives in a basement too. We measured his pillow and it was a whopping 74.7 Counts Per Minute on his pillow where he sleeps!

      http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/qpillow12112.jpg/

      Up higher at about a five foot level it was lower at 63.2 Counts Per Minute.

      He lives in downtown old Durango and his outdoor Background was 64.3 Count Per Minute.

      And yes I have also sent letters to the good Dr. Watoda, but he does not answer. Sad that they, the German scientists did the best job of tracking the fallout across the globe and on the US continent. In the cover-up, this just disappeared in one day. Makes you wonder what they were told, or what threats they were given to all just shut up so quickly like they did at the onset of this horrendous catastrophe.

      Sad when you consider the power of money and those who employ the hard tactics are a greater force in the world than truth is. That used to mean something in the old days. Truth. It was an honorable human quality.

      Not so important in the ipod who cares, it’s better to be ignorant, hope & change world any more and for that, the greatest sin of ignorance and allowance of that which kills us now, we shall all collectively surely pay.

      .


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  • Estimating1 Estimating1

    Two things i have to mention;
    1) I have notced that the veins in the white part of peoples eyes are more pronownced and closer to the Iris. Does anyone have any physialogical correlation between this disease and radiation exposure? Have any of you noticed it? Please pay attention and let me know.
    2) I may be paranoid, or just forgetful, but I dont remember ever sun set being so colorful, do we usually get colorful sunsets in winter, I cant remember. Any coments appriciated.
    PS- James T, our work here is ore important than our own image or reputation, keep your eye on the prize!


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    • Bobby1

      7.38 microSv/h, contaminated castle, Nihonmatsu, Fukushima

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXHnOuT1MH8


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    • vital1

      Wow, what a find!

      Its great that so many people now have Geiger Counters and are reporting their findings. More people will become aware of the dangers, and educated about radiation.

      Sent these youtube video links off to some friends, and will show them to others.


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      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Yes V1, they are great video reports.

        Give thanks.

        We are growing and more people as you indicate are coming aboard every day.

        Give thanks.

        And big huge supportive accolades to you B1 for these videos that you found. I have established contact with one of these the good brothers and am in the process of bringing him on board also. He is a good and honorable man there in the fuku area and we can certainly love to have his input and data. He speaks pretty good English which says more than my Japanese.

        Give thanks!


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  • isogoodhumans

    North Vancouver, 9:10pm

    22-48cpm indoors
    36-52cpm outdoors
    Over 3mins ea

    Forgot to mention yesterdays high outdoor readings were at a time of heavy rain (I am not advertising a particular Hepa purifier brand though the one I have is top rated at Consumer Reports)


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  • anne anne

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    168 CPM, 1.3642 uSv/h, 0.9815 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
    2 hours ago
    https://twitter.com/LongmontRadMon


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  • Friday Jan 20th evening. Went to friends house where it is in city, more remote and wifi stuff surrounding and in the apartment as apposed to my place. Plus electric trolley bus traffic with aprox 500 volts running through the two overhead wires that supply the busses. On third floor fairly close to wires. Got a rolling .06 to .13 µSv/hr . Tested frozen salmon some caught off Vancouver coast and some caught in open ocean, the fish possibly could have originated from the Columbia river. All caught this past summer. Got same rolling measurements as above. An aside if your testing food with the Soaks how do you compensate or understand the rolling measurements to compare food with background? Any ideas out there what equipment is best or even affordable for testing food? Soeks is obviously limited.

    Interesting I left Soeks running for a long time over an hour and I got 2 high radiation blips, I know Arclight has seen them and posited a theory involving hot particles. Keep in mind regarding hot particles that Arnie tested by sending car filters back east to test west coast doesn’t have the equipment. He sure didn’t use a cheap Russian radiation detector! Not withstanding I love my Soeks and love the Russian people too. At my friends place I got two high radiation readings, .41 and .42 µSv/hr They sat there for one complete green bar cycle then went down, one went down to zero the other went to .16 then .13 through a few green bar cycles.

    Both me and my friend thought the spikes were from man made electrical stuff. I would just imagine that Arclight, living in Britain, is in a more densely populated area then me living in New Westminster. My friend lives in South Vancouver so we both live close to the Fraser river but he is in the more densely populated area. I have only gotten 4 high radiation readings since last December, 2 around where I live in New West, .51 and .52 µSv/hr but spread out over time and outside.


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  • So in regard to the spikes, my theory is that this comes from man made electronic Sh*t. Not natural background, that hasn’t happened since before the industrial revolution taking into consideration radiation in coal and electric stuff….. So spikes not from Fukushima but not “natural” either. We are getting little spikes of radiation from wifi cell phone etc etc. Any hot particles or plutonium crap ( is alpha my machine doesn’t even measure) is undocumented from this end and is pure speculation But stiff upper lip as the British say, what? Full pint of beer here for me so the week is starting out good, party favors back home and happy time with kids all weekend. Life is good, remember that brothers and sisters.

    God Bless


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    • arclight arclight

      hi mark

      thanks for the post.. its good to discuss this..

      the spikes on the soeks can be static or electronic.. however when i was getting multiple peaks about every five minutes or so with a high 0.15+ microsievert/h in different geological areas in and around london.. i think it is more radiological and worth a mention… the single spikes i tend to ignore.. if i get more than 6 spikes in an hour i think that gives me the same rate as st austell, land of radon!! then i presume it to be strong signals from a radiological source..

      currently i get about 2 peaks an hour.. the main point is that i am in a dense electronic area for some of the journies and can drive through them with no peaks, especially at the beginning of my gieger checking..

      in recent weeks i believe weve had Pb214 in the air in europe at +20 bequerel/m3 from the south… and cobalt 60 etc .. could not one of these isotopes give the 0.52 spike i got last night? the other spike was at 0.33 microsieverts/hr… but the frequency is low at the moment and the readings are lower than recently 0.09 to 0.14 mcSv/h mostly on the low end of that scale!

      small infrequent rises to 0.17 microsieverts/h.. anyway this is an important point you are making and we need to test this electronic/static theory!

      any chance of a peak in the middle of the desert with no gadgets about?? short on deserts in the uk! :) although bodmin moor near st austell showed peaks as did the valley into st austell.. not much electronics there?? the argument goes on perhaps??

      putting up another eurdep “tutorial” video with Pb214 evidence soon!!

      peace mark!!


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      • HamburgGeiger

        Hi, my personal experience with electronics interfering with my geiger measurements shows that the for example mobile phone has to be very near (few centimeters) to the geiger, otherwise it does not change anything. But IF it confuses the geiger, it is very obvious. My geiger totally went nuts. Such a situation produces a huge spike. Talk about 800 cpm or something like that. That imo has nothing to do with the small spikes we measure regularly.


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        • arclight arclight

          hi hg
          just to follow up on your point

          take the casing off the gieger and touch the pin on the muller tube and it will give you seriously high reading… 7.9 micosieverts + sort of thing.. as it grounds out direct.. tried it on the broken muller i have… hope that adds to the enenews knowledge base

          peace


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    • arclight arclight

      hi hamburg, hi mark

      something else to think about concerning spikes.. repost

      “vital1
      January 22, 2012 at 5:20 pm · Reply
      Radiation spike in Australia another suggestion.
      The author Paul Langley also suggests that the dip in the recorded radiation levels just before the spike is because the Geiger counter overloaded. This is called a false zero reading. That is, it went of scale before recovering to a level it could read. This is worrying if true!

      http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/arpansa-responds-to-a-citizens-detection-of-a-radiation-spike-in-queensland-january-2012/

      For a non technical explanation of “false zero readings” in Geiger Muller tube based radiation detectors see:

      http://radiation.fallout.cz/htm/radmeters.htm Word search for “false zero” in this web page”

      on the dip before the spike thread… nice one vital! confusing the hell out of us? lol :) great post though


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Nicely put M,

      Isn’t it nice to KNOW that we are recognized not so much for what we say, rather it is what we DO that we are truly blessed for…one day at a time.

      Thank you for your good works brother, for we are blessed by what you DO!

      ALL is a name for One…ONE is what we all are.

      Enenewsers rise to the call!


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  • arclight arclight

    high bequerel count of radioactive Pb 214 in southern europe.. germany



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    • Estimating1 Estimating1

      I hope this is not related, but it is hard to ingnore, thanks. Please anyone that reads this, take note of the veins in peoples eyes, are they more pronounced? Are they exstending toward the center of the eye (Irus)? Thanks!!
      Pass the potasium iodide and calcium!


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  • MadMama MadMama

    More so. CA rain today . 10-minute average run from paper towel swipe of outside glass top table (30″ diameter). Table was cleaned immediately before the rain arrived.

    6:50am BG = 421, COUNT = 573
    8:30am BG = 446, COUNT = 448
    9:10am BG = 482, COUNT = 410

    So, more short-lived radioisotopes that have decayed completely away (and then some, apparently)!

    @Radegan (responding to your 1/22 question if the complete decay of short-lived radioisotopes indicates it is not from Fukushima):

    I believe that is the case. Keeping in mind I am no expert, it seems that these elevated readings that decay away completely within a few hours are local radon washout. I did some research several months ago when I first noticed this phenomenon, trying to find out if there were similar detections pre-Fukushima. This is what I found:

    http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q1241.html
    http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4109#comment-8147

    The first is a question posted/answered in 2001.
    The second link is to a BRAWM page. I realize that BRAWM has compromised its credibility with misleading comments comparing external exposure levels with internal exposures, and its funding sources (nuke industry) will create a bias, but this page is a particularly interesting presentation of an actual decay chain from an air filter, that matched radon daughters. The BRAWM response cited a 1966 article referencing radon washout in rainwater, and showing a graphic depicting a typical radon decay chain.

    Clearly the elevated readings that decay to background quickly are not a new phenomenon. I would be very concerned about extremely elevated readings (that we have not seen detected here in so. CA), samples that do not decay to background quickly (there have been several such cited), as well as always keeping the knowledge that longer lived isotopes that would not be readily detectable with the geiger counters may still be present.

    Potrblog has also speculated that some of the radon…


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      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Wow!

        Good reporting CB.

        That is really amazing that they are still actually showing such radically high readings with this very supposedly precise measuring equipment of the epa. Could it be they are suddenly showing the nation the truth? And if so, why now?

        This graph exemplifies what many of us were feeling in December and January. Several of these huge spikes in the radiation waves there in Bakersfield give tell-tale evidence as to when there may have been some serious plutonium and mox fuel related calamities going on at fukushima, and possibly other reactor locations.

        Premise: what underground secrets are the tepco govt hiding there?

        If we can get some crew together here lets look at this data, the camera crew data, the earthquake data, road cam data, jet stream data, moisture levels during these high spike times in Bakersfield, and any other data we can to see if we can collectively come up with a projection as to when and how these spikes were caused and what sort of evidential time-line it takes to get to the Bakersfield, or west coast areas.

        Anyone up for the challenge for the betterment of all the enenewsers informational purposes?

        .


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      • MadMama MadMama

        CB – No, I am located 30 miles northwest of downtown Los Angeles in the Santa Monica Mountains. I’m about 4 miles inland from Malibu. The Los Angeles RadNet readings would be nearer to my location.

        To clarify, my earlier (1:05pm post) rain sample detections were 10 minute total counts. Must insert a decimal point for Count Per Minute (CPM): 57.3, 44.8, 41.0


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    • Estimating1 Estimating1

      Madmama,
      I saw your response to Radegan, regarding the short lives daugter products, dissipating away quickly. We assume it is radon, but is there a chance that there was a explotion sending particlaized fuel (I hear dArnie and some of his colleages say that the fuel material turns into a fine powder during a nuclear or hydrogen explosion) resulting in fresh criticalities in the fresh cloud of suspended, particalized nuclear fuel? Then the short half life daughter products might have a chane of making it to the US. I hope it is not true, but it is worth examining. Nuetron beams a keep going until they hit another heavy nucleus, so even if the particles were far apart, like in a cloud, fisison wouls still take place enough to sustain reactions even if it only involve small amounts of fuel. Or maybe this is just a far feched idea. Isn’t burkley able to identify the actual isotopes that creat the radiation they are measureing? I think that would credit or bust the radon question.


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  • anne anne

    Monday, January 23, 2012
    ALERT 3X Atmospheric Radiation in Taos, New Mexico Flows From Fukushima 5.8 Earthquake

    “Hat tip to “Radiation News” for making us aware of the Taos reading. The preliminary information was sourced from the “radiation network”

    “The report is short on exact details, however the available information indicates that the approximately 3x background reading was taken in calm, windless air, with no rain or snow present. The event lasted approximately 20 minutes before taking a step-function like drop. The report WRONGLY indicates that Jet Stream “flow too far north to be a factor”. A quick look at the Jet-Stream map shown below indicates the Jet Stream was likely a primary factor in the reading. The area of detection is circled in red, the time stamp on the map corresponds approximately 48 minutes before the reading was taken. …”
    http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/2012/01/alert-3x-atmospheric-radiation-in-taos.html


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  • Looking at these jetstream maps its hard to believe the west coast of North America gets nothing from Fukushima. Thanks for posting Anne. In regard to spikes from electronics. Put Soeks in the middle of two cell phones, one called the other, got regular background, readings actually were going down .09 µSv/hr as phone was ringing. Put Soeks flat against middle of modern 42 inch flat screen get steady .08 µSv/hr note not the rolling background .07 to .13 µSv/hr observed in room. I get consistant .29 and .16 spikes in my apartment only. That makes me think man made source as numbers consistant. I’m not sure Arc light how radio active gas acts or is measured. I’m thinking that you would get a yellow bar measurement as a cloud passed by. Unless it is little puffs here and there. Bottom line is our equipment is limited.
    Need to research what feasible options are available. Measuring compounds such as iodine, cesium in food would be cool. Measuring Alpha would be good to detect possible plutonium. Being able to Analise car air filters would be great. A bigger Mueller tube hooked up somehow to a computer system such that you could track radiation throughout the day seems to me to be the bare minimum.

    Any suggestions or reports on different equipment would be welcome. Soeks is a good portable detector that will give you a heads up for immediate radio-active threats. But it can’t detect hot particles, alpha or low level radiation that is only a threat if it enters the body.


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Funny you mention this.

      It is exactly what they did here almost a century ago when they built a lot of these old Victorian style buildings in downtown Durango, Colorado. Background in old town is at a 64.3 Counts Per Minute. That is normal, and fluctuates up higher in some places.

      And what is amazing is some of them are uranium rocks in the foundational structures. Hot? You bet. But not as hot as those ones in Japan are getting to be.

      Stay tuned for the pile of uranium coal ore I am going to do a video on. That will be interesting.


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  • Friday January 20th Steady low .06 .07 µSv/hr on Canada Line in Vancouver. Canada Line runs underground from Downtown Vancouver to Marine Dr just before the Fraser River where line pops up from the ground to cross the river over a bridge and continue as an elevated Skytrain in Richmond.

    Train runs basic third rail electric motors. Driverless technology and entire tunnel has cell phone antenas installed for seamless connection. Should be lots of electronic interference but I attribute underground location reason for steady below background levels. Got .29 spike just before end of tunnel and then detector showed .11 to .13 µSv/hr regular background surprisingly quickly, like as soon as I was in daylight. Continued measuring normal background levels as I got off at Marine Dr station and recorded outside. So what caused the spike? Sunshine as it was still daylight?


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  • NorCalOceanBluff

    On Friday I changed our furnace filter, which I am embarassed to admit had not been changed in quite a while. It was VERY encrusted with dust. Immediately prior to changing the furnace filter I took a 10 minute indoor background reading with my Inspector geiger which yielded an average of 36.7 CPM (counts per minute). This is a combination of alpha, beta, and gamma radiation.

    I then measured the CPM of dirty furnace filter, also using a 10 minute count. I did this by placing the furnace filter on a piece of newspaper, putting a paper towel on top of it, wrapping the geiger counter in saranwrap, and laying the geiger counter on top of the paper towel. This yielded an average of 63.9 CPM, but I think that would have only been the beta and gamma, as I think the alpha would have been blocked by the paper towel and saranwrap.

    So, the dirty furnace filter was at least 27.2 CPM higher than the background! People, even if you don’t have an air purifier, please be sure to at least change your furnace filters frequently!


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    • radegan

      Testing of objects needs to be done in a lead box. When you test in your home, the geiger counter picks up the a lot of the room and the air flowing past, diluting your sample – it could be lots worse than you think. If you had a lead box, then you could run a 10 min test in the closed box with a bagged geiger counter, then having established a baseline for the box, put in your air filter (or other substance to be tested) and the bagged geiger and shut the box, and start the second 10 min test. Now you have limited the distortion because you are testing much less of the room and lots more of the sample. There is an audio dampener we use in sound studios within the walls, it’s lead, somewhat pliable and comes in rolls. Should be easy to make a lead testing box out of it, just need a good air seal.


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      • Estimating1 Estimating1

        WE should consider this standard procedure, I agree. But Ihav to mention the disclamer:if you handle lead, be sure to take great careto use the highest level of hygeine to protect yourself and others, especially children as lead can cause brain damage and basically disrupts the growth of children systemically, especially related to hormonal functions. You might be albe to find the actual radiation from a banana or a recently purchased tissue box holder, but it wont be woth it if you oison a child in the process. I will try to get it together to make my lead box, but i will be wrapping it in 3/4″cdx for handleing.


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Nor Cal,

      Great report bro.

      Keep on keeping on. Doesn’t get better than that!

      Rad, good points and good education. My question is, and from what I can tell, the atmosphere goes every where so the air in the box, minus a vacuum to pull it out and maintain the vacuum seal to test in, it would yield close to the same readings as the counter would outside the box. Maybe a slight difference, maybe a great one. Absolutely definitely sounds like something we should try. Who has the tech and tools to make such a box? And, where do we find this lead roll stuff at?

      Great minds a tinking awhey here alright. Glad to be aboard gentlemen!

      .


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      • radegan

        A vacuum would be the gold standard, no question. But inside the box, the air is not flowing, outside the box, it still is and much more contact with the atmosphere is diluting the testing. We need a designer to work up a simple box design with a vacuum seal. Let’s keep chewing this over, maybe some engineer out there is thinking, ‘well, heck, that’s easy…”


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  • arclight arclight

    heres zee with buisness .. the weekend has been pretty quite over here and this describes it nicely.. maybe the average over the last three days was lower than the video describes.. but that changed about 21.00 GMT .. now getting high peaks, regularly and higher average.. video to follow with some rousing patriotic music :) lol haha! .. wait and see! :)

    peace!


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  • arclight arclight

    hey guys and gals

    just something i missed…

    one of the criirad team has posted this homage to….

    “The CRIIRAD makes a point of expressing its recognition with Roger Belbéoch who left us on December 27, 2011 at the age of eighty-three years.

    Roger had the capacity to analyze the problems of the nuclear power apart from any drawn up diagram and any compromising.

    Its analyses carried out with a clearness, a competence and a rigour out of the commun run for a long time alerted us on the risks related to nuclear industry…, risks confirmed by the catastrophes of Tchernobyl, then of Fukushima.

    Roger always sought the truth, but not the rewards or the honors.

    He leaves a vacuum which one will not be able to fill.

    Its many writings (see bonds) are fortunately there to light us and help us in length and difficult combat against the misinformation.”

    http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.criirad.org%2F&lp=fr_en&.intl=us&fr=ie8

    i think we might all agree that we have all lost a much needed soul!! my respects to all the team at criirad and monsieur Belbeoch`s family.


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  • anne anne

    It is now 8:16 PM 23 Jan in Longmont:

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    174 CPM, 1.4129 uSv/h, 0.9703 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
    9 hours ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    102 CPM, 0.8282 uSv/h, 0.6135 AVG uSv/h, 2 time(s) over natural radiation
    7 hours ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    144 CPM, 1.1693 uSv/h, 0.9329 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
    7 hours ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    108 CPM, 0.8770 uSv/h, 0.7026 AVG uSv/h, 2 time(s) over natural radiation
    5 hours ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    96 CPM, 0.7795 uSv/h, 0.7410 AVG uSv/h, 2 time(s) over natural radiation
    5 hours ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    108 CPM, 0.8770 uSv/h, 0.6979 AVG uSv/h, 2 time(s) over natural radiation
    3 hours ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    102 CPM, 0.8282 uSv/h, 0.7237 AVG uSv/h, 2 time(s) over natural radiation
    2 hours ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    102 CPM, 0.8282 uSv/h, 0.6225 AVG uSv/h, 2 time(s) over natural radiation
    1 hour ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    114 CPM, 0.9257 uSv/h, 0.7230 AVG uSv/h, 2 time(s) over natural radiation
    52 minutes ago

    LongmontRadMon Radiation Monitor
    138 CPM, 1.1206 uSv/h, 0.8872 AVG uSv/h, 3 time(s) over natural radiation
    33 minutes ago

    From:
    https://twitter.com/LongmontRadMon


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  • hutteto

    Hey everybody. I am new here. Well I have been reading this site for a while but I just signed up so I could post some radiation results. I just got my brand new Inspector EXP+ Radiation Alert radiation detector today. Its the one with that wand thing.

    Anyway I am getting a pretty average range of 30-60. Im taking these measurements pretty much everywhere around the outside and inside of my house. Majority of the time its around 40-50.

    I have not changed my air filters inside since around March, so I have pretty much captured the entire duration of the event. My down stairs air filter measured about 500 CPM, and spiked around 700 CPM. How bad is this? I did replace the filter. Now I am not standing all around my air filter all day so that is to take into consideration.

    I also found this chart, but its in mSv not CPM.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/images/radiation-detail-1000ms-2.jpg

    How does mSv equate to CPM?

    Thanks


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  • hutteto

    Actually a followup, now my Inspector is showing 16, so I guess that average I posted is more like 30 or so, normal from what I’ve read. I live in Greenville SC btw.


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    • arclight arclight

      hi huttetu

      welcome to the thread.. im sure the american cpm counters amongst us will get back to you on your queries.. cpm to microsievert conversion… hmm i think 12 cpm is 0.12 microsieverts/hr but am unsure as to what the comparison is as the level rises.. got really confused trying to mar the two up.. then gave up!

      interesting to see someones answer that doesnt start with ” arghhhhh!” :) lol!

      peace


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    • hutteto

      I also have an option for mr/hr. I have other measurements I can use but thats detailed in my manual. I have to make some settings adjustments. I was eager to get this thing out and start using it and I see most people use CPM. I could be wrong though…


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      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Hello H,

        Welcome aboard the USS Citizens Radiation Monitoring Network. Happy for you and the new toy! :)

        You made a wise choice.

        Keep your EXP part clean and uncontaminated. Think like a surgeon in an operation room where sanity is your highest priority. Always handle your baby in slow motion and as carefully as you can. Walk slow with it in your hands. Do not touch it to the ground or suspected objects that could be contaminated. Place plastic over your probe and your Inspector if there is any chance of it coming into contact with any moisture. Can it operate without the probe also? Something to look into later, or sooner if it will help you learn how to use it faster. It does have the open pancake window on the back right? The probe is for fine testing of foods and small or large objects.

        Read your instructions several times. They are not to long and not to complicated. Learn how to start by doing Ten Minute Total Counts. Divide that total count by ten to get your Counts Per Minute (cpm). Ie. After a Total Ten Minute Count you measured 678=67.8 CPM or in Sieverts, .125-.456 uSv/hr, or just .367 uSv/hr.

        Once you figure out how to use your menu to set your timing for ten minutes, you can then set it to count uSv/hr. This way you can do the counts in CPM and also switch it to count in the uSv/hr for comparison to your Total Counts. Sounds confusing here now, but you will understand what I mean if you read your book and watch how folks do the reporting here. RE: Nor Cal OB above.

        Keep a log of your checks from the very first time so you know your first base count from day one.

        I do a little book with the date, time of day, place, TC, CPM at the head and the measurements and info under each column going down the page.
        Confused yet?

        Just ask for clarification. You are crew here an there are many who have many points of light to offer for every occasion.

        Read your instructions and have fun checking your house and environment and recording…


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  • arclight arclight

    on my usual drive around london earlier, the peaks are back! but more importantly the rises to 0.21 microsieverts/hr were happening at about every twenty minutes with few counts below 0.11.. up a notch! after three days reasonable levels!

    on account of my blatant irish nationalism i will balance that nasty with this (i am a seriously confused “citizen of the world”)…

    lol! :)


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  • HamburgGeiger

    Good morning, Hamburg Germany with somehow unsteady radiation today. First I got very low readings like 0,07 uSv/hr for minutes with spikes up to 0,37 every few minutes. Then it was more like 0,14 uSv/hr for lets say an half hour with fewer spikes. And now it is changing between this all the time.

    Early in the morning I saw a lot around 0,2 on my gamma scout but the soeks just showed 0,1. Don`t know which is correct. I suppose the better gamma scout is more precise.


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    • HamburgGeiger

      I forgot: 23 cpm one-hour-average in the last hour and this night, too.


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Hellos HG,

      Always good to hear your input bro.

      I looked at the Scout also and compared it to the Inspector before I made my choice. I liked it, but felt more inclined to get the Inspector, especially since I had the chance to get in on a prearranged deal that was made before the disaster took place in japan.

      All I can say is, so far, I am glad I made the choice I did and even though the Scout seemed to have more bells and whistles, I am still glad to have the Inspector and it’s ease to use.

      Lets see as time goes on how they compare in the user friendly depts.

      Blessings and great work!


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  • 1/24/12 near Eugene, OR elev. 500 feet, raining. Indoor averages .15, mcSv, outdoor .15. Slightly lower in chicken shed and greenhouse. These are five-reading averages per spot, there was little difference between one meter and the ground (usually the ground is higher), bagged.


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  • hutteto

    How much is 700CPM? Is this really bad to be in my air filters?


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    • radegan

      Yes, it’s very high. If you got those readings outside for several days around Chernobyl, you’d be evacuated. But that’s not the reading in the air you’re breathing, the filter did what it was supposed to do – now change them more often. And get a high quality HEPA air cleaner to help in the bedroom, anyone who has one and a geiger counter has noted here that the room the HEPA serves is cleaner than other rooms.


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      • radegan

        It’s also likely you’re missing a decimal point and the reading is actually 70.0 CPM which is still very high and would still get you evacuated if it persisted all around your home.


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        • James Tekton James Tekton

          You are right Rad, he needs to learn how to do Ten Minute Total Counts to get his CPM. (Counts Per Minute)

          I expressed some light up above for him and have not heard any feedback. Perhaps he is doing his homework and will come back with some good input expressed very well.

          We are all still on a huge learning curve here…one day at a time.


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          • hutteto

            Hey yesterday I went home and measured those same air filters that were measuring 500-700 CPM. I put them in my outside trash. When I measured them yesterday they were no longer showing those high readings. They were normal background. I noticed that at night I was consistently seeing 60 to 70 CPM, but during the day I was getting 20-40 CPM consistently.

            I went online and researched this. There is the Oconee nuclear power plant to the west of where I live a couple of counties over. I tried to connect the dots and suspected maybe they were releasing steam at night.

            Well I started digging around online and saw some sites talking about Radon. I saw where the most stable isotope of Radon has a half life of 3.8 days, while other isotopes have a half life life ranging from only a couple of hours to a matter of days.

            Based on these facts, I think I have figured out what cuased such high CPM readings in my air filters and at night. At night it gets cold so my central heat comes on more. This explains why I get higher readings at night. Then that radiation is concentrated in my air filters, and since radon has such a short half life, that would explain why after 24-48 hours the radiation in my air filters diminishes to almost background.

            I am going to contact my state and try to get a free Radon testing kit. If I cant get it for free then I will just buy one for like $30. I know the radiation cant be from Japan because the half life is so short. And by the way, it was warmer yesterday so my heat didnt come on. I measured my air filter and it was normal background. So then I cranked up my heat and after an hour I measured the air filter. It was coming in at over 400 CPM.


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    • Net

      Hi hutteto, Where are you located?


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  • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

    1/25/12 – Between TMI and Limerick, indoor average 40cpm.


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  • dharmasyd

    Washington’s Blog discusses increasing levels of Radioactvity at Fuku:
    here .


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  • Bobby1

    Baltimore showed the highest beta readings yesterday since October. My thyroid-o-meter went up too, after a merciful 4-day reprieve.


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  • Check out radnet data today.

    It looks as if everything is down.

    That is worrying.

    http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/12/realtime-epa-radnet-japan-nuclear-radiation-monitoring-every-us-city-single-page-16511/

    I was going to go for a quick hike this morning.

    Probably not safe to do so…


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    • Bobby1

      majia,

      I analyzed the December EPA radiation data from Corvallis, Oregon. I had to compare it with 2008 due to bad and missing data from 09 and 10.

      Beta was 2.1 times higher (+112%). Gamma range 3 (200-400 keV) was up 4.4%, gamma range 5 (600-800 keV) was up 8.2%, and gamma range 6 (800-1000 keV) was up 4.8%.

      Trying to determine likely isotopes now.


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      • Bobby1

        All the above increases were statistically significant.

        Many isotopes like strontium-90 have almost all their emissions as beta particles. The ones that also emit significant gamma, and are compatible with the above energy ranges are:

        cesium-134, cesium-137, iodine-131, iodine-132, tellurium-129m, tellurium-132, barium-140, xenon-135


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Ya know Majia,

      There have been a lot of strange anomalous things happening. So much so that checking the radiation levels seems irrelevant. It is the same energy we had just before 9/11 and as a realist in a spiritually connected world, one can vibe a certain uneasiness that is lurking below the surface of things what with all the preparations for eh the crash of the the dollar and more war to distract the populations from it all until the implement the final solution.

      I just wish all this potentiality were not true. I would rather be discussing other things like my garden. The truth is, we as a world are on a hell bound train because of our lack of oversight and the levels of careless unconsciousness we have collectively slipped into. If there was a mass awakening and the immediate cessations of all wars and the prosecution of ALL those who profit from death and destruction, then we might have a chance as a world to survive and prosper.

      We can be sure that isreal will pull off another false flag event to kick off the war with iran for the rothchild banksters that own isreal any day now. They are desperate to start more war and if that happens, well, educate yourself about the potentials.

      It is devastatingly sad when a supposed world of intelligent people can not learn from it’s own mistakes even in the face of such well impressed history, and great performer/prophets that have long been telling us all the truth.



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  • Sickputer

    That’s not comforting…if the PTB have an off switch for all, then the local control of the units that actually had data (flawed as it is) is now history.

    No need to explain data when you release nothing.


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  • selfsovereign

    Is it time to send another postcard to that remotely located anti-nuke family in Japan that is being bullied by their government?
    If they get consistent road traffic, which we can make happen with the postmans help, they wont close the road.

    Does someone remember that article……………..?

    I can’t remember the whole story, but I wrote down the address at the time and it costs less than one dollar to help……….

    Asako House
    AZA-Kookuto 396
    Oma-Machi
    Shimokitagun
    Aomori Prefecture
    039-4601
    Japan

    peace


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  • vital1

    Here is a new background radiation chart for January 25th 2012.
    Location Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia.

    http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/24-hour-background-radiation-chart-25012012.jpg

    This week starting January 23/01/2012, we have had over 300 mm of rain. Rain troughs have been coming from the Australian northern tropics constantly for days now.

    I am now recording local background radiation every minute, so I am more likely to record those spikes. You will notice that the dark blue radiation average for 24 hours line in the new chart has crept up to .15 uS/Hr. Radiation spikes are now going above .3 uS/Hr, plus background readings are much more volatile. Up until the 8th January 2012, I have not seen spikes go above .2 uS/Hr at my location. This chart represents the highest average so far for the 4 years of data I have collected on local background radiation levels. Our average local background over four years has been around .10 uS/Hr!

    It would appear that our average daily background radiation is increasing since the spike event on the 8 January 2012, here.

    http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/radiation-spike-080112.png


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  • vital1

    ENENEW ADMIN

    I suggest that we create a dedicated survival page as a community effort. This page would be filled with survival suggestions and information on it.

    There is a huge amount of information in enenews and also a great resource of human skills and knowledge here. I feel the survival info should all be in one location, as it is to fragmented over lots of pages at present. Here are a few suggested subjects, everyone please feel free to add others.

    1. Suggested Geiger counters to buy, and how to use them properly, and prevent contamination.
    2. Food testing equipment that is cost effective in detecting radiation contamination in food. May mean communities pool resources to purchase the equipment, plus tips on how to use it.
    3. You already have a great source of food suggestions to help remove radiation, and keep people healthy. We need these suggestions in one place.
    4. Suggested water and air purification equipment.
    5. A frequently asked question page.

    You get the idea. I feel lots of enenews users would be willing to contribute drafts in specialist areas. Then you would add them to the survival page. This way it spreads the work load, and gives hope to the enenews community, and to others who may venture here.


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  • Net

    Hi Does anyone have San Jose, CA readings? Their monitoring station hasn’t been working for a VERY long time! The Gamma Gross Count Rate is listed. Can someone interpret it and let me know if those readings are high? What does that indicate? Thanks!
    http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/net2/San%20Jose-CA-Real-Time-US-Radiation-Monitoring-Graph.aspx


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Hi Net,

      The gamma readings look moderate to low as compared to other cities in the U.S. You might find it helpful to go to the page where Alexander Higgins has all the data posted (or links to it) and compare data for various cities.

      You’d probably get a ‘ballpark” idea if you made comparisons with San Francisco. Levels in your area have generally been lower than S.F. for the past several months.

      I’m in Fairfield. I’m planning to take some more readings in the next day or two. When I do, they will be posted here.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Gamma here in uSv (if I’m doing this right) is measuring from 0.055 to .089, with a few spikes up to 0.107. That’s microsieverts per hour. The RadNet site gives Gamma Gross count rates. I don’t know what that means.

        Can anyone elaborate?

        Beta here has been pretty steady ever since it rained, about a week ago. It went down for a couple of days to the 0.07 to 0.131 level. Now it’s back up again somewhat, and measuring from 0.065 to 0.131. The average is around 0.09 to 0.1.

        That’s Beta measured in uSv, millisieverts per hour.

        I still need to read through my manual and make sure I’m doing this right. I’m pretty sure at least the Beta counts are right.

        I really don’t know how to translate cross-platform to explain how the measurements I’m getting mesh with what RadNet reports. It would be more helpful to you, I know, if I were measuring Beta in CPM, for example.

        Am still playing around with all the different modes, averages over time, etc.

        Just started school this week, so there hasn’t been time for much else.


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  • arclight arclight

    Right..second attempt

    My internet has been stopped at the exchange …. But I have a blackberry .. Phew!

    Getting high peaks to 0.25 mcSv/hr every 10 minutes or so

    Major drop to0.06 mcSV/hr before the peaks..

    Slow rises from 0.11 mcSV/hr to 0.19 microsieverts/hr

    This morning brought rain giving 0.20 mcSV/hr as an air reading..

    Cobalt 60 is worth a look at .. On eurdep.. Finland is now measuring it as well and it corresponds to the higher cobalt 60 figures in the south..near Austria?

    Now I’m getting worried b and b..

    Think we got a responce to your email to iaea lady!!!

    Feel like a hoody planning a riot… I’m nearly fifty!

    Wonder how old busby and the crew are bearing up?

    Heads up grace and the uk posse!

    Think I will watch vexille again :(


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    PA rainfall 2x background.


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  • Bobby1

    Beta radiation data in the Russian Federation is now available for December 2011.

    http://www.typhoon.obninsk.ru/rus/ipm/lab3/ro.htm


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  • Today, around 2:00 pm West Coast time, Vancouver area BC Canada,

    For the last several days I have noticed .21 and .25 spikes every half hour or so in my apartment. Hepa filter on and general background does go down to .06µSv but spikes are still there.

    Basic background is .11 to .14 µSv per hour. Using Soeks detector. Those familiar with this equipment understand that machine gives actual readings which do fluctuate as background never stays constant, VS other equipment ( which I am very unfamiliar with ) which apparently averages out a count. I notice a few new faces here so sorry to my seasoned compatriots if I seem to be repeating myself. The CPM models get a count over ten minutes and divide by 10 to get an average. The Soeks shows a reading compiled over 20 seconds or so displayed in micro sieverts per hour. Therefore with my equipment I see numbers that change over time. If the new number is a large difference from the previous one a yellow bar turns red indicating an inaccurate reading. However the software dictates that ie it was designed that way. Nevertheless, hooked up to the software is an actual Geiger Mueller tube, probably smaller then the Inspector ( James Tekton would love your imput on this how big is your tube? The bigger the more accurate. Soeks is 4″ x1/2″, again an eyeball value ) Essentially everybody has a geiger Mueller tube connected to different software electronics to handle the data differently Still Nobody so far here has come up with a way to compare these different units of radiation. So when I report background, I am eyeballing the different readings I see over time. I try to do at least a ten minute count but it is impractical to track various readings over time on a chart, you are getting an “eyeball” average. Nevertheless I am seeing a lot more .13 and .14 now so I am saying background has risen by a point or two ( .01µSv equals 1 point ) since before Christmas.


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