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  • anne anne
    April 9, 2012 at 8:20 am

    Fukushima

    “…(4) OZONE BREAKDOWN
    Large-scale breakdown of the protective ozone layer in the stratosphere was initiated in 1958 by high atmosphere bomb tests, and continues due to releases from nuclear power plants and nuclear reprocessing plants. Radioactive Krypton-85 goes to the stratosphere where it greatly enhances CFC ozone damage….”
    http://flash1.gravlab.com/biblefirst/Japan44.htm


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  • anne anne
    April 9, 2012 at 8:21 am

    [Climate Science/Principal Human Activities]
    http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Climate/Climate_Science/PrincipalHumanActivities.html

    Radioactivity and earth sciences:
    Understanding the natural environment
    The earth's natural radioactivity is helping scientists learn more about
    geological processes and global climate changes


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter
    April 9, 2012 at 8:44 am

    Insects as drones: scientists are cabling real bugs to use as drones for the US military (photo)

    Can this madness stop, please? This is revolting.

    http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/technik/0,1518,826389,00.html


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    April 9, 2012 at 8:45 am

    Military drones..pffft…..can they pollinate?


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  • anne anne
    April 9, 2012 at 9:04 am

    Enthalpy [comment to Krypton-85 in our atmosphere]

    “Krypton-85 85Kr is a beta emitter with 687keV maximum energy and 10.7 year half-life. It's produced by uranium fission with 0.27% yield (137Cs and 90Sr: 6%). Here is a report, a bit old and in French, but figures read the same in English anyway:
    http://www.irsn.fr/EN/Research/publi…ts/Kr85SAN.pdf

    “When reprocessing used nuclear fuel rods at La Hague, solid fission products like 137Cs and 90Sr are separated for storage, but 85Kr is just diluted and emitted in the atmosphere. For instance in 1999, La Hague emitted 2.9*1017 Bq of 85Kr, more than the radioactivity of 137Cs and 90Sr released by the Chernobyl disaster.

    “Iodine, caesium, strontium radioisotopes fall on the soil more quickly and locally if emitted, and accumulate in the food chain. Krypton, as a noble gas, dilutes in the whole northern hemisphere's atmosphere, where in 2001 it added 1.2 Bq/m3, with 3/4 of it coming from La Hague – it must be worse by now.

    “How bad is such an added radioactivity, much smaller than natural sources anyway? It irradiates a human body by 4nSv/yr, or 500nSv/yr at the skin as beta rays don't go deep. No experimental data tells the effect of such a low dose; scientific near-consensus is to extrapolate proportionally from higher doses, taking 1% more risk of a fatal cancer per 0.2Sv exposure.


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    • anne anne
      April 9, 2012 at 9:05 am

      [cont.]
      Over 30 years, this adds only 6*10-9 risks of casualty – but for each of the 6 billion people in the hemisphere, meaning an estimated 36 casualties.

      “Note the 1% per 0.2 Sv is a whole-body average, but external beta rays damage essentially the skin. It seems that 500 nSv/yr at the skin is a bit worse than the deep 4 nSv/yr taken here.

      “Some people challenge that the risk is proportional to the dose; they want to see some dose threshold below which the risk vanishes. Among them is Areva, the operator of La Hague.

      “I consider that since 85Kr arrives from the power plants confined in fuel rods, keeping all 85Kr confined in some storage can't be that difficult. And to avoid three dozens possible deaths, it should be done, without arguing about risk models.”
      http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=554562


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    April 9, 2012 at 9:07 am

    Outside passing out a candy bar and a bottle of water..(post blowing up your dog)…the military is basically only interested in destruction..and playing Peepin Tom…they have very little interest in the promotion of life ..
    But they eat.
    A decrease in pollination = less food.
    Then again..I'm sure the populace will starve before they do.


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  • anne anne
    April 9, 2012 at 9:46 am

    You Can't "Nuke" Global Warming!

    “….Nuclear Power Itself Causes Global Warming!

    “While nuclear industry spokesmen are fond of pointing out that nuclear power plants release no greenhouse gasses in operation, they always fail to point out that Uranium Enrichment accounts for huge percentages of some CFCs released in this country. For example, United States Enrichment Corporation's sites in Ohio and Kentucky released 800,000 pounds of CFC-114 in 1999. CFC-114 lasts 300 years in the atmosphere, and causes 9800 times more global warming per pound than CO2. So US enrichment activities in 1999 released the equivalent of 3,920,000 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. In addition to global warming, CFC's in the atmosphere cause another problem. They destroy the ozone layer. CFC-114 is one of the worst substances know to man in terms of ozone destruction. This is all just more evidence that Nuclear Power is not a clean technology!

    “Nuclear Power Won't Work in a Global Warming World

    “Nuclear power plants require water. Lots and lots of cooling water. The majority of water used for any purpose in Illinois – more that 75% – is used as reactor coolant.


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    • anne anne
      April 9, 2012 at 9:46 am

      [cont.]
      The majority of water used for any purpose in Illinois – more that 75% – is used as reactor coolant.
      What happens when global climate change results in more hot, dry summers (punctuated by violent storms which create runoff but don't raise river levels for longer than a few days? With increasing electricity demand for air conditioners, higher environmental temperatures and less water in the rivers, the reactors will have to shut down or cook the fish. It has already happened here, and in France in 2005. NEIS has a two-page .pdf report discussing the ways in which Nuclear Power Plants can't operate in a Global warming world.
      “Read more about how drier rivers in a global warming world make nuclear power unworkable.…”
      http://www.neis.org/Campaigns/YCNGW/index.shtml


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      • Sickputer
        April 9, 2012 at 11:34 am

        Good stuff Anne.. How about this for a sound bite from that article on water source problems for cooling nuke plants?

        "In August 2003, temperatures inside the Fessenheim plant reached 50 degrees, and the facility's authorities ordered high pressure hoses to wet down the exterior walls — a rather primitive method to cool off the reactor in an era of advanced technology."

        http://www.neis.org/Content/Global_Warming_Shuts_French_Nukes.htm

        SP: That imagery sounds way too familiar now based on the water cannon usage at Fukushima after Elvis has left three reactor buildings. Fighting nuclear fires with buckets of water is still the primary method to preventor remediate a nuclear accident. And we can certainly see water has been losing the Battle for Fukushima.

        If the battle to contain Fukushima Daiichi nuclear megaplex becomes hopeless and workers flee forever… what kind of spin will the Tepco PR men invent to explain how they murdered the human race?


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    • Jebus Jebus
      April 9, 2012 at 8:24 pm

      Briley: Why don’t nuclear plants pay water debt?

      Imagine the absurdity of a highly profitable company not paying to use a natural resource that has severe scarcity issues, such as water. This is the case in America’s nuclear energy industry.

      Nationally, 49 percent of our water is withdrawn for use at coal, natural gas or nuclear power plants.

      http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/opinions/guestcommentary/11761859-474/why-dont-nuclear-plants-pay-their-water-debt.html


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  • xdrfox
    April 9, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Effexor Lawsuit 2012 Birth Defects

    Helping families affected by Effexor birth defects after taking this SNRI antidepressant drug during pregnancy and representing individuals who have developed side effects in filing an Effexor lawsuit. Currently cases are being filed individually and no nationwide Effexor class action lawsuit has been filed.
    Recently, the public has become more aware that the antidepressant drug Effexor which is prescribed to treat depression has been associated with serious birth defects problems. Effexor (generic name Venlafaxine) is a medication …
    http://www.effexorlawsuitbirthdefects.com/

    Wellbutrin Lawsuits 2012 Birth Defects

    Representing families affected by Wellbutrin birth defects after taking this antidepressant drug during pregnancy and representing individuals who have developed side effects in filing Wellbutrin lawsuits. Currently cases are being filed individually and no nationwide Wellbutrin lawsuits class action has been filed.
    Recently, the public has become more aware that the antidepressant drug Wellbutrin which is prescribed to treat depression has been associated with serious birth defects problems. Wellbutrin (generic name bupropion) is a medication known as an antidepressant manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline. Many women of childbearing age have taken antidepressant medications such as Wellbutrin during pregnancy and subsequently had a child born with congenital birth defects. …

    http://www…


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  • xdrfox
    April 9, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Birth defects an increasing concern for physicians
    2012-02-28
    BEIJING – China has seen the rate of birth defects increase by more than 70 percent between 1996 and 2010.

    "The percentage of infant deaths associated with congenital disorders has also been rising on the mainland," said Fu Wei, deputy director of women and children's care and the community health department of the Ministry of Health.
    Currently, 800,000 to 1.2 million babies are born with various birth defects each year on the mainland, accounting for 4 to 6 percent of births, Deputy Minister of Health Liu Qian said at a recent news conference.
    From 1996 to 2010, the rate of birth defects increased from 87.7 per 10,000 births to 149.9 per 10,000 births, according to the Ministry of Health.
    Commonly reported defects include neural tube defects, congenital heart disease, cleft lip, hydrocephalus and Mediterranean anemia, said health experts.
    Of the babies affected, around 30 percent can be cured and 40 percent would have deformities …

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-02/28/content_14706569.htm


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  • Choto
    April 9, 2012 at 11:58 am

    19 years ago warned of the dangers of antidepressants during pregnancy [7], according to Dr. Michel Bosnian, and 3 years ago and warn that taking antidepressants was associated with the appearance of malformations. Women who are taking antidepressant medications selective inhibitors of serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) like fluoxetine, Prozac of the multinational Eli Lilly, had twice the risk of your baby being born with a congenital abnormality. The period of greatest risk was during the second and third month of pregnancy.
    In another study, the warning came even from the authority of the Food and Drug Control in the U.S., the FDA alerted doctors on the increase in birth defects in pregnant women who ate another antidepressant, paroxetine.
    The antidepressant paroxetine (Paxil) the multinational Glaxo SmithKline Beecham, increased the risk of fetal cardiac malformations, they recommended that pregnant women should not be prescribed. Here too, the studies found this increased risk in women taking the drug during the first three months of pregnancy.
    The U.S. regulatory agency FDA indicated that a second study on the drug showed a substantial increase in risk in the hearts of the developing fetus if administered during pregnancy. Actually this is the second paper on the effects of Paxil or any of its generic composition identical (paroxetine) have in pregnancy:
    He had already released a study conducted on 6,000 children in which they found that the risk of heart defects…


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  • Choto
    April 9, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    All studies agree that the greater sensitivity of fetuses occurs in early pregnancy
    It is proven that this is the period when the fetus is more sensitive to radiation and chemical mutagens and generally for all poisons.
    Especially for a whole category of chemical contaminants grouped as hormone disruptors, xenoestrogens or environmental estrogens such as dioxins, furans, etc…
    Studies of antidepressants that have seen once again remind us that within the chemical contaminants do not forget the drugs. The case is emblematic of thalidomide. He is not alone: ​​the case of the first hormone that marketed the pharmaceutical complex is even more instructive. It was not until a generation it became apparent that DES had caused an epidemic of vaginal cancer in daughters of mothers who took it when they were in utero.
    Although it is recognized that chemical toxicity does not affect the genome, there is abundant evidence that this is not true and the most dramatic example we have in Vietnam. It's been several generations since the army of the United States committed the war crime with impunity even sprayed Agent Orange dioxins high in the country, including crops, and continue to be born deformed children.

    Some researchers believe that genetic changes influenced by our environment, including food and behavior, they can be transmitted from generation to generation.
    Recent scientific studies have shown that genetically modified soya produces fetal malformations. Worse, a study…


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  • StillJill StillJill
    April 9, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Can you imagine being born with radiation sickness? Can't imagine trying to take care of a child so tiny,….so sick,….so 'under assault'! :-(

    Well,….if I could remember 1960,…..I'd recall just EXACTLY what 'thet' feels like!

    Talk about STARTING life from behind the 8-ball! :-(


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  • Choto
    April 9, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    Recent scientific studies have shown that genetically modified soya produces fetal malformations [40]. Worse, a study of the Russian Academy of Sciences shows that the third generation of GM soy-fed mammals are no longer able to reproduce.
    Russia says genetically modified foods are harmful. Abr 16, 2010 17:26 Moscow Time.
    http://english.ruvr.ru/2010/04/16/6524765.html
    Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality
    http://www.responsibletechnology.org/utility/showArticle/?objectID=4888


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  • bleep_hits_blades
    April 9, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Cont'.d – it is known that much that is presented as information by those in power is actually dis-information & that there are agendas behind these dis-info ops.

    Surely this is the important issue here – not me, not Monckton, but the actual issue under discussion.

    & yet the responses my posts have generated have been emotional, personally derogatory of me & of Monckton, & have not confronted/engaged with several important facts which cast doubt upon the validity of the anthropogenic global warming theory/dogma, nor upon the anti-populist police-state totalitarian agendas & policies which this theory is being used to justify/implement.

    This global warming meme seems to be some sort of sacred cow to which its adherents are personally attached/identified.

    I have tried to point out that in such debates it is important to try to be mutually respectful, avoid ridicule & ganging up on one who disagrees, to stay issue-focused, & to try to cultivate humility & honesty & keep in mind that the facts are important – important to us all, if indeed the global warming meme is based on false/mistaken science & is being used to justify more repressive Big Brother legislation that is not in the public interest & is increasing the powers of the forming fascist world govt.

    It has reminded me of school yard gangs & cliques which attack 'odd man out', less socially popular/successful kids.

    I have made repeated efforts to keep the discussion respectful issue-focused.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    April 9, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Frankly..I don't have time for outdated…irrelevant debates on climate change.


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  • bleep_hits_blades
    April 9, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Well, I won't be troubling you any further with any comments on this website.


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    • Choto
      April 9, 2012 at 9:30 pm

      ou have not made ​​any ridiculous. You have been attacked, slighted, scorned, ridiculed (with official sophistry, that not all scientists, as there is dissension within the scientific world (check my links and translate), the condescension with you has been used by others, if not the coarse paternalism. All the same, these things happen we are in a debate.
      You may have dubious characters such as Lord X, or as Mr.X2, but there is more life after these people. The examples we have others … are no less dubious (in favor), and sources of information, I found something manipulative and reactionary, created on purpose with some extra money. You just have to see the rest of headlines, editorials and concerns.
      I think we all want the truth, but when the information comes from elements of the government or members of the establishment, it fails, rat, camel, deceit, … witchcraft …
      I do not doubt your good will, nor of your nobility, or your morals, I think I know which part you are, know you're with the good, with good people, because I've time reading your questions and answers on this blog …. and I love your way, so why will not you strange questions, I'm not the Inquisition.
      I would like you to follow writing on the blog, there are many losses lately. Lost and disappearances. Keep going friend.
      Remember, however, that:
      If you go to a site, no one will take, you can return whenever you want, no one calls you.
      Courage and still here.


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      • bleep_hits_blades
        April 10, 2012 at 12:19 am

        Thank you so much Choto – you help me to feel better. There is some ill will here, some in-group loyalties/clique – maybe some schills/trolls and/or some people who lack open minds, common courtesy, & simple kindness/good manners.

        I made a sincere effort to communicate/dialogue, & was met with ego-based cute/clever wise-cracks at my expense, & subtle, snide, quite cruel, hurtful, condescending remarks (the purpose of which seemed to be to shut me up).

        If people are not interested in (find 'boring') a topic, all they have to do is just not read those comments/entries – no need to personally attack the poster.

        If these are the kind of people who end up having a heavy presence here, who tend to dominate/control at least some discussion threads, then I really don't want to be a part of it.

        You, Choto (& a couple of others), posted a couple of good posts which questioned anthropogenic global warming, & in the heavily negative & hostile/hurtful, intolerant climate that had developed, I appreciated that very much indeed.

        As seems to be often the case, a clique of 'love & stroke' each other strong personalities might end up dominating, I guess – people who are more interested in being in the in-group, coming up with the clever put-down, & 'being right', controlling/ limiting content than in exploring a topic with an open mind & an attitude of goodwill & tolerance even for those who dare to differ with them ('depart from the party line').


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  • Sue
    April 9, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    Can't blame you Bleep. I'm amazed at the responses your posts have received. Don't let the buggers get you down!


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    April 9, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    @Bleep hits Blades..I hope you will reconsider. This is my own personal opinion..
    I find the climate change debate nonsensical and fatiguing.


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  • bleep_hits_blades
    April 9, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Thanks, Sue – I was amazed too, and bewildered. But I have taken enough of their rudeness and ridicule and am outta here.


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  • Kevin Kevin
    April 9, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    The climate change debate is relevant on these pages in so much as the Nuclear cabal has used it to boost proliferation and have rested the renaissance on it as being the "clean green fix."

    That said, the science that has been presented is scary. The anecdotes the deniers forward effective. The bottom line? We are increasing fossil fuel use and still hoping the majors in this industry will "phase in" alternatives. Well good luck with that!

    We are not going to solve climate change here but I think it is worth shining the light on how the cabal has used it to their advantage.

    Cheers


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose
    April 9, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    PS. They're sick.


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  • StillJill StillJill
    April 9, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Holy hell Batman,….what are 'they' thinking?
    (On second thought,….I don't even WANT to know what goes on inside them, truthfully!)

    Letting residents back in, is cruel and pure trickery! Many will go, unfortunately! :-(


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  • lam335 lam335
    April 10, 2012 at 1:00 am

    "Dental X-rays linked to brain tumors: US study"

    "… The study in the US journal Cancer showed people diagnosed with meningioma who reported having a yearly bitewing exam were 1.4 times to 1.9 times as likely as a healthy control group to have developed such tumors….

    Also, people who reported getting a yearly panorex exam — in which an X-ray is taken outside the mouth and shows all the teeth on one film — were 2.7 to three times more likely to develop cancer, said the study…."

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/dental-x-rays-linked-brain-tumors-us-study-042557420.html


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  • anne anne
    April 10, 2012 at 6:26 am

    Earthquake 10 April 2012 17:13 JST
    MAP: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/145_40.php
    Magnitude4.4 Date-Time
    • Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 07:13:34 UTC
    • Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 05:13:34 PM at epicenter
    Location40.773°N, 145.085°E Depth36 km (22.4 miles) RegionOFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Distances252 km (156 miles) SSE of Kushiro, Hokkaido, Japan
    284 km (176 miles) SSE of Obihiro, Hokkaido, Japan
    305 km (189 miles) E of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
    732 km (454 miles) NE of TOKYO, Japan


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  • xdrfox
    April 10, 2012 at 10:01 am

    New study suggests pesticides may affect pregnancy length and birth weight
    Apr 10, 2012

    Exposure of pregnant women to organophosphate (OP) pesticides, a widely used class of pesticides in North American agriculture, may be associated with decreased gestational age and lower birth weight, according to a study published on Thursday. The new study, conducted by Vancouver-based Simon Fraser University (SFU) researchers, finds that the decrement in birth weight for OP pesticide exposure was comparable with the decrement seen for women who smoke cigarettes.This findings again raise people’s concern about the harmful effects of low-level exposures to environmental toxicants. Although the use of OPs in Canada and the U.S. has declined in recent years, exposures remain widespread.
    The conclusions were made after studying a population of …

    http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/10/new-study-suggests-pesticides-may-affect-pregnancy-length-and-birth-weight/


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    • jec
      April 10, 2012 at 10:35 am

      Danger in imported foods from China. When we see a crack down on US products, just opens the door (wink wink) for external and MORE contaminted products. To make up the short falls, US imports increase the problems with pesticides in foods. So WE stop or limit our food supplies –letting in the non-regulated foods. Imports are "signed off" as safe due to meeting the foreign countries safety rules–not tested or protective of human safety. Money talks. Just found a recall for our pet foods. Ingredients are provided from China suppliers, and are killing pets with pesticides, melamine, plastics (looks like more protein in testing) and bacterias per the FDA. So chicken treats, dental treats, sweet potato–they are all in the "suspected" list, with recalls and FDA warnings as to safety of the animals..and the handlers of the foods. Do you think there will be a difference for HUMAN food products? Heck Chinese companies have even given Melamine to infants in their formulas. Offending officals were caught..after the fact..but many babies suffered permanent injuries or death.


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  • xdrfox
    April 10, 2012 at 10:01 am

    CME activity continues, 30% chance of geomagnetic storm
    Apr 9, 2012
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XuueVwtOpx0
    Solar activity has been low and Sunspot 1450 is about to rotate onto the western limb. With Sunspot 1452 struggling to remain visible, the Earth facing side of the Sun is at risk of being spotless for the first time in over 230 days. Old Sunspot 1440 rotated onto the southeast limb and is a spotless plage. Filament eruptions continue in the area located between …

    http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/09/cme-activity-continues-30-chance-of-geomagnetic-storm/


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    • anne anne
      April 10, 2012 at 12:57 pm

      TY, scrfox, for the link. Now that the following Longmont rad monitor is not reporting anything, I will have to keep track of the CME's and the SIDS (Sudden Ionospheric Disturbances):

      "Hi! Thanks for stopping by. Yeah we do have a fair bit here because of the altitude, uranium, radon, and Rocky Flats… for starters. :-) What's really interesting is that I also have a SIDS system (solar storm) running and you can see many of the radiation peaks coincide with spikes on SIDS. Until I started running these together I never realised just how much solar radiation plays a part at altitude."
      https://pachube.com/feeds/30643

      I also read somewhere that HAARP enhances the SIDS, and I found HAARP activity greater when we had higher radiation readings in Longmont, CO


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  • xdrfox
    April 10, 2012 at 10:02 am

    U.S. clings to "Drug War" as Latin American nations mull ending prohibition

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3s-vh4Y2-Fk

    'War on drugs' has failed, say Latin American leaders

    Watershed summit will admit that prohibition has failed, and call for more nuanced and liberalised tactics
    …Latin America's increasing hostility towards prohibition makes Obama's attendance at the summit potentially difficult. The Obama administration, keen not to hand ammunition to its opponents during an election year, will not want to be seen as softening its support for prohibition. However, it is seen as significant that the US vice-president, Joe Biden, has acknowledged that the debate about legalising drugs is now legitimate. …

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/07/war-drugs-latin-american-leaders

    This is worth the time listen/read !!!


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  • xdrfox
    April 10, 2012 at 10:03 am

    U.S. trained Iranian terrorist group

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKXLBDRPDx8&feature=player_embedded

    Our Men in Iran?
    It was here that the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) conducted training, beginning in 2005, for members of the Mujahideen-e-Khalq, a dissident Iranian opposition group known in the West as the M.E.K. The M.E.K. had its beginnings as a Marxist-Islamist student-led group and, in the nineteen-seventies, it was linked to the assassination of six American citizens. It was initially part of the broad-based revolution that led to the …

    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/04/mek.html#ixzz1rXirWPMi

    Does this sound familiar


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  • xdrfox
    April 10, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Sony to layoff 10000, AT&T queued up for 40000!

    1 day ago … Sony to layoff 10000, AT&T queued up for 40000! times at least 5 for all the
    people working who depend upon them spending their incomes on …
    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1831513/pg1


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  • anne anne
    April 10, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Earthquake 10 April 2012 22:42 JST
    MAP: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww
    /Maps/10/135_35.php
    Magnitude4.4 Date-Time
    • Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 13:42:03 UTC
    • Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 10:42:03 PM at epicenter
    Location33.573°N, 137.081°E Depth357.2 km (222.0 miles) set by location program RegionNEAR THE SOUTH COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Distances137 km (85 miles) SSE of Tsu, Honshu, Japan
    139 km (86 miles) SSW of Hamamatsu, Honshu, Japan
    178 km (110 miles) S of Nagoya, Honshu, Japan
    339 km (210 miles) SW of TOKYO, Japan
    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2012zfa6.php


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  • Anthony Anthony
    April 10, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    Posted at 12:01 AM ET, 04/10/2012
    Study links dental X-rays to brain tumor risk
    By Jennifer LaRue Huget
    A study published Tuesday in the American Cancer Society journal Cancer reported a link between certain kinds of dental X-rays and the most common brain tumor, one that is almost always benign but can still be debilitating.

    The study found at a general level that people with meningioma were more than twice as likely as people without the brain tumor to have had a bitewing X-ray sometime in their life. For a bitewing X-ray, the patient holds the film in place by biting down on a tab.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-checkup/post/study-links-dental-x-rays-to-brain-tumor-risk/2012/04/09/gIQALz8k6S_blog.html?tid=pm_national_pop


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    • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven
      April 10, 2012 at 2:14 pm

      Well maybe this is the way I will go, if it ain't one thing it's another.

      And I had a thought. With manufactured austerity measures taking place around the globe & with services & medical care reduced, it will become more likely that governments will take a more Proactive approach. If you will be a burden to social programs as a result of your ill health, maybe *doctors will be putting you out of your misery.

      The reason services ect. are cut is because the elite in effect do not need them. They have their own medical staff, schools, libraries & universities ect.

      The *love for robots & their push in music videos ect. is so that you will accept them as normal, fun & for positive uses. Until they just keep replacing more & more of us. Do you think that governments will pay you to sit home becasue you have been replaced by a robot?

      We are being brainwashed & when people wake up enough to realize you are no longer needed it will be too late. It is not just becasue there are no manufacturing jobs that there are fewer jobs. Who says that just becasue technology advances that robots should take our place? It is those that will not have to pay a you salary, or medical costs ect. or ever have to put up with unions or employees demanding a pay raise.


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  • Choto
    April 10, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    La Russie interdit à l’OTAN d’acheminer l’héroïne via son territoire.
    http://www.voltairenet.org/La-Russie-interdit-a-l-OTAN-d


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter
    April 10, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Where are the earthquakes

    *too silent for too long


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  • Jebus Jebus
    April 10, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    Darpa is goin for the Terminator!

    Think about why they need this and the format of the trials…

    DARPA Seeking to Build (Friendly) Terminators

    The goal, DARPA said, is to produce a robot capable of assisting humans in dangerous or degraded environments, using unmodified tools designed for humans.

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402846,00.asp


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  • Jebus Jebus
    April 10, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    Looks like the counting has begun to see how many are left after….

    US, Russia to Begin Bering Sea Seal Survey

    A team of researchers will begin flights over Bering Sea ice to answer a basic question about four of the region's most important species: How many ice-dependent seals are out there? (still left!)

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-russia-begin-bering-sea-seal-survey-16110293


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  • CB CB
    April 10, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    4.3 near east coast Honshu Japan.


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    • anne anne
      April 10, 2012 at 8:52 pm

      3 more earthquakes 11 April 2012 9:16 and 8:45 and 1:36 JST

      1. MAP: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/135_40.php

      Magnitude4.0 Date-Time
      • Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 16:36:13 UTC
      • Wednesday, April 11, 2012 at 01:36:13 AM at epicenter
      Location38.072°N, 135.314°E Depth374.3 km (232.6 miles) RegionSEA OF JAPAN Distances202 km (125 miles) NW of Kanazawa, Honshu, Japan
      227 km (141 miles) NW of Toyama, Honshu, Japan
      236 km (146 miles) NNW of Fukui, Honshu, Japan
      476 km (295 miles) NW of TOKYO, Japan

      MAP: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/145_40.php

      2. Magnitude4.3 Date-Time
      • Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 22:45:14 UTC
      • Wednesday, April 11, 2012 at 08:45:14 AM at epicenter
      Location39.983°N, 143.112°E Depth35.7 km (22.2 miles) RegionOFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Distances150 km (93 miles) ESE of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
      170 km (105 miles) E of Morioka, Honshu, Japan
      220 km (136 miles) ESE of Aomori, Honshu, Japan
      560 km (347 miles) NNE of TOKYO, Japan

      3. Magnitude4.6 Date-Time
      • Tuesday, April 10, 2012 at 23:16:16 UTC
      • Wednesday, April 11, 2012 at 09:16:16 AM at epicenter
      Location39.859°N, 143.481°E Depth31.7 km (19.7 miles) RegionOFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Distances185 km (114 miles) ESE of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
      200 km (124 miles) E of Morioka, Honshu, Japan
      255 km (158 miles) ESE of Aomori, Honshu, Japan
      567 km (352 miles) NE of TOKYO, Japan


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  • anne anne
    April 10, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    It sounds like everyone is giddy with kindness today. That's really nice to hear.


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  • StillJill StillJill
    April 10, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    It is, isn't it Anne!?!

    Nice too, that kindness gets an honorable mention today,…..from the likes of YOU Anne!


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  • xdrfox
    April 10, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Schmallenberg virus expert meets Jersey farmers The Schmallenberg virus can affect all livestock, but is not harmful to humans
    Farmers in Jersey will meet an expert on the Schmallenberg virus later.
    Last month tests confirmed the virus had infected sheep on the island after five lambs were born dead and badly deformed at a farm.

    The States veterinary officer said it was likely the virus was caused by windborne midges.
    the virus could lead to the loss or temporary suspension of the export trade, particularly …

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-17667881


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  • xdrfox
    April 10, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Three More Pesticides May Harm Salmon

    A draft federal evaluation has found that three more common pesticides, used on home lawns and agricultural crops, jeopardize the survival of West Coast salmon … continue
    http://www.chem.info/News/2012/04/Safety-Three-More-Pesticides-May-Harm-Salmon


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  • xdrfox
    April 10, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    FDA Says Cheese Company Will Keep Products Off Market
    The FDA said that cheese processor Del Bueno of Grandview, Wash., has agreed not to sell its products until they are proven safe for consumption … continue

    http://www.foodmanufacturing.com/news/2012/04/fda-says-cheese-company-will-keep-products-market

    COVER STORY ???


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