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  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    Ammonia-Tainted ‘Pink Slime’ Ravaging US Meat Products

    Experts state that the meat is not muscle, but fat trimmings and connective tissue that are separated from the bone – scrap meat that is not fit for human consumption.

    The trimmings are then treated with an ammonia solution in an attempt to kill whatever may be lurking in it. The product is then minced into the now infamous pink slime, a pseudo meat replacement with no nutritional value whatsoever.

    this pseudo meat is used in over 70% of ground beef products in supermarkets around the country. Along with the widescale use in supermarkets, the USDA has purchased 7 million pounds of the product to be used in school lunch programs nationwide.

    ~Follow additional links in article.

    http://www.infowars.com/ammonia-tainted-%E2%80%98pink-slime%E2%80%99-ravaging-us-meat-products/

    • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

      mmm entrails…where bse prefers to hangs out – ammonia can't kill prions though.

      • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

        Just like irradiating food I expect that it will also cause more resistant forms of bacteria & e-coli. They make more money selling it as human food instead of animal food.

        Humans are so evil in so many ways now that there is no way to keep track of every singe evil way to make money or harm people.

        • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

          Sadly I agree. Also add weakened immune systems to the lethal recipe. It used to be that home lunch could avoid the "drink your cesium or you can't go out to recess" nazi (we actually had one in our school..she'd stand by the rubbage bin and guard the door..if you didn't drink you didn't play ((unless you were of the "incorrigible" type and snuck out through the bathrooms;)), but seeing that article about that NC child it seems the gall is ramping up. At least she got suspended but as with anything, it's only after the damage is done. Too true, people suck and it's beyond time to start paying attention as you're right, it is difficult to keep up!

          http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/06/nugget-gate-teacher-suspended-indefinitely/

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Real-time Magnetosphere Simulation
    http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/

    Some videos from the past:

    3/30/2011 – WILD MAGNETOSPHERE! get compasses out! need verification on flux
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QGUHiBUYKBM

    Solar Wind Smashes into Earth – Magnetosphere Wobble 28th of June 2009, Sunday.
    Jul 1, 2009
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulSeES6AS0Q&feature=related

    Giant Solar Flare from Sunspot 1302 Causes Geomagnetic Storm
    Sep 27, 2011
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=6hiNHB-Cip8

  • bleep_hits_blades

    The Ultimate Revolution

    Talk (1962) by Aldous Huxley on 'human engineering' …. And the 'scientific dictatorship of the future'.

    Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World, speaking at U.C. Berkeley in 1962. Aldous Huxley uses this speaking opportunity to outline his vision for the 'ultimate revolution', a scientific dictatorship where people will be conditioned to enjoy their servitude, and will pose little opposition to the 'ruling oligarchy', as he puts it. He also takes a moment to compare his book, "Brave New World," to George Orwell's "1984" and considers the technique in the latter too outdated for actual implementation.
    The Ultimate Revolution – a lecture by Aldous Huxley

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9RiRfMYVlQ&feature=related

    "There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution." — Aldous Huxley, Tavistock Group, California Medical School, 1961

  • bleep_hits_blades

    What about TV, PoorDaddy? "The drug you love to watch…"

    And the various 'recreational drugs'?

    And of course the mass drugging of children who get any kind of unfavorable diagnosis.

    Main reason I posted this was the matter-of-fact way Huxley discusses the elites' plans to manipulate and control the masses. No concern at all about whether it is ethical or totalitarian/anti-democratic, etc. His attitude is, Well, of course we are doing this… it's a very interesting talk.

    I was looking for something on their plans for population reduction – which they do have. But most of the stuff I found on U Tube was too lurid and melodramatic (not inaccurate but a bit off-putting for the uninitiated/doubters). Will keep searching…

  • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

    Of course, TV……best mind control device ever invented.

  • bleep_hits_blades

    DEPOPULATION QUOTES

    If anybody you talk to wonders if there are people who would possibly consider depopulation, here’s a few quotes to throw at them.

    “Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind”
    Theodore Roosevelt

    …………………………………………………………………………………………..

    “Malthus has been vindicated; reality is finally catching up with Malthus. The Third World is overpopulated, it’s an economic mess, and there’s no way they could get out of it with this fast-growing population. Our philosophy is: back to the village.”
    Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation, stated such, ironically, in 1984:

    ………………………………………………………………………………………….

    “A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
    Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine

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    “There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it….”
    “Our program in El Salvador didn’t work. The infrastructure was not there to support it. There were just too goddamned many people…. To really reduce population, quickly, you have to pull all the males into the fighting and you have to kill significant numbers of fertile age females….” “The quickest way to reduce population is through famine, like in Africa, or through disease like the Black Death….”
    Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………

    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of…

  • bleep_hits_blades

    MORE DEPOPULATION QUOTES

    http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=2574

    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”
    Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider – Founder and Secretary, respectively, The Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, pgs 104-105, 1991

    ……………………………………………………………………………………………

    “A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people…. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.”
    Stanford Professor ” Paul Ehrlich in The Population Bomb

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    “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.”
    J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier

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    “I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today” and, “We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox.”
    Dave Foreman, Sierra Club and co founder of Earth First!

    ……………………………………………………………………………………………….

    “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”
    Mikhail Gorbachev

  • CB CB

    Another M6 class CME sunflare is heading for earth [video] http://bit.ly/wDqkc7

  • bleep_hits_blades

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,” and “The elderly are useless eaters”
    Dr. Henry Kissinger

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    “World population needs to be decreased by 50%”
    Dr. Henry Kissinger

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”
    David Rockefeller

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    “War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world’s population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. We’ve got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. You know, the bird flu’s good, too. For everyone who survives, he will have to bury nine”
    Dr. Eric Pianka University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert, showed solutions for reducing the world’s population to an audience on population control which gave him a standing ovation.

  • bleep_hits_blades

    “The present vast overpopulation, now far beyond the world carrying capacity, cannot be answered by future reductions in the birth rate due to contraception, sterilization and abortion, but must be met in the present by the reduction of numbers presently existing. This must be done by whatever means necessary.”
    Initiative for the United Nations ECO-92 EARTH CHARTER

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………

    “In South America, the government of Peru goes door to door pressuring women to be sterilized and they are funded by American tax dollars to do this.”
    Mark Earley in The Wrong Kind of Party Christian Post 10/27 2008

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………..

    “Women in the Netherlands who are deemed by the state to be unfit mothers should be sentenced to take contraception for a prescribed period of two years.”
    Marjo Van Dijken (author of the bill in the Netherlands) in the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/04/humanrights-women

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………

    “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature”
    Anonymously commissioned Georgia Guidestones

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    “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
    Prince Phillip, Queen Elizabeth’s husband, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund/WWF

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”
    David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………

    “The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.”
    Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

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    “Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
    Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………

    “The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.”
    Obama’s Science czar John P. Holdren: From a book he helped write ‘Ecoscience’

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    “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”
    Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviet Union

    • CB CB

      Thanks Bleep! Although I do not believe this a conspiracy, or depopulation agenda, your information got my gears turning. My only comment would be "what a way to un arm a populace without a fight" and "overkill".

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Whoever might believe in depopulation is missing necessary logic to stay alive. The radioactive and polluted environment won't pick and choose who will die. We all share that fate.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          I'm also saddened when I hear of all the dolphins dying in the radioactive ocean.

          • Sickputer

            Nightline report a few minutes ago said fear is the main killer instead of the tiny amounts of radiation. I am so amazed seals, whales, dolphins, and even plankton are succumbing to the fear factor. Please don't leave your sleeping pills close to the beach as I hear the walruses have been so fearful they are overdosing. [Sarcasm off]

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake 10 Mar 2012, 10:33 JST

    MAP: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php

    Magnitude4.5 Date-Time
    • Saturday, March 10, 2012 at 01:33:40 UTC
    • Saturday, March 10, 2012 at 10:33:40 AM at epicenter
    Location 38.888°N, 140.731°E Depth35 km (21.7 miles) set by location program
    RegionEASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN
    Distances71 km (44 miles) N of Sendai, Honshu, Japan
    78 km (48 miles) NNE of Yamagata, Honshu, Japan
    96 km (59 miles) SSW of Morioka, Honshu, Japan
    366 km (227 miles) NNE of TOKYO, Japan
    Location Uncertaintyhorizontal +/- 14.9 km (9.3 miles); depth fixed by location program
    http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2012xzac.php

    This earthquake is 53.4 mi (85.95 km) NW from Onagawa) Nuclear Power Plant
    This earthquake is 10.9 mi (17.57 km) N from Narugo volcano
    This earthquake is 5.03 mi (8.093 km) NNE from Kurikoma volcano
    This earthquake is 53.2 mi (85.63 km) SSW from Mount Zaō volcano
    http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html

    Onagawa nuclear power plant:
    38°24′04″N 141°29′59″E
    Volcanos:
    Narugo
    462 1542 38.73°N 140.73°E 837
    Kurikoma
    1628 5341 38.95°N 140.78°E 1950
    Mount Zaō
    1841 6040 38.15°N 140.45°E 1940

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Hi CB,

    Yes, I have had the same thoughts myself – talk about a 'broad brush' approach, if that is in fact what it is. Another phrase that comes to mind is 'crapping in the nest'. Not to mention Garfield's(cartoon cat) 'riding the ragged edge of disaster.'

    My mind is not made up on this issue. I just think it is a good policy to keep an open mind and keep those wheels turning, turning… this is (on purpose) a hard game to figure out. Gotta try to stay in 'fighting trim' mentally speaking.

    Closed minds tend to be static minds. I have met too many people whose unwritten code seems to be along the lines of, Don't confuse me with the facts; my mind is made up…(and furthermore, Dancing with the Stars is coming on…)

  • Japanese quake a warning to Canada: Prepare for the inevitable

    VANCOUVER — Anacla, a First Nations village on the west coast of Vancouver Island, is moving up, heading for higher, safer ground.

    A new "big house" has been built 50 metres up from the pounding surf of Pachena Bay. And there are plans to replace the 49 houses on the beach, which could be swallowed by the sea with just minutes' notice.

    It has happened before, says Tom Happynook, a hereditary chief with the Huu-ay-Aht First Nations, recalling how the village in the bay vanished in 1700, when a quake kicked up giant waves off Canada's West Coast.

    "The village was completely wiped out," says Happynook.
    Scientists say the strain is building again beneath the sea floor as …

    http://www.theprovince.com/news/Japanese+quake+warning+Canada+Prepare+inevitable/6279058/story.html

    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      EQ Indicator. If the indigenous Anacla are moving because they feel earthquakes are coming, I'd take it very, very seriously.

      The great 9.2 magnitude Alaska (Pr. William Sound) EQ was March 27, 1964. When our trained researchers arrived, they were surprised to find there were no native peoples in the area. The indigenous peoples had left a week or so earlier. When asked why, the natives said they watch burrowing animals. When the burrowing animals start balking at going down their holes, they know an EQ is coming. Let's hear it for "native" science!

      How much native wisdom we have forgotten! Or not understood? Or ridiculed?

  • Biologists Forecast Big Pacific Salmon Season

    Fri, 03/09/2012 – 10:01am

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    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Pacific Coast fishermen can start gearing up for what's expected to be the best salmon fishing season in years.

    Federal fishery managers are forecasting robust populations of chinook and coho salmon off the Pacific coast and in California and Oregon rivers.

    The Pacific Fishery Management Council on Wednesday approved several options for managing West Coast salmon fisheries this year. All of them give sport and commercial anglers plenty of time to fish later this spring and summer.

    The regulatory council plans to hold public hearings in California, Oregon and Washington to get feedback on the alternative fishing plans over the next few weeks before choosing a final plan when it meets in Seattle in early April.

    "It is great to see such a nice rebound for California salmon populations and the prospect of good fishing in …

    http://www.foodmanufacturing.com/news/2012/03/biologists-forecast-big-pacific-salmon-season

  • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

    Found this young guy on Youtube. Fresh energetic perspective and hope for all.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY5QEETaUEM&feature=related

  • GBCIR

    Thanks for the HAARP / Jones / Rense link. I too have learnt from these guys but something stinks of dis-info on their sites. Especially the personal attacks Rense did on Jim Stone. There was no need for them to do that except for diversion…?

    http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9318&start=0

    It’s EASY to see (sense) liars these days – and getting easier. (anyone else finding liars easier to spot?)

    All I know is that an 8.9 (or whatever it was) would have COLLAPSED many more buildings than it did. Like 911 I don't know WHAT happened other than the MSM is OOZING bullSHIT (as usual)

    Vigilance – like what most of you here are providing is our Protection. Thanks – I’m Grateful.

    Keep up the Good work.

    Peace

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    HAARP 2011 – free electric energy misused
    2011 – Preventing the NOT Inevitable
    HAARP an abuse of the ionosphere??
    When the HAARP sings…
    http://2011energy.alternate-healing-science-christian.ca/free_energy_haarp.html

    • CBC broadcast on HAARP weather control

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y6_vni1r78&feature=player_embedded

      The Military's Pandora's Box

      by Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane Manning
      HAARP.net

      Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope; antenna send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything — living and dead.

      HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly — HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with …

      http://www.haarp.net/

  • U.S. defends treated meat dubbed "pink slime" in school meals

    The Department of Agriculture is defending the use of ammonium-treated beef, dubbed "pink slime" by detractors, in meals destined for schoolchildren as part of the national school lunch program.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=87uBMXdIyjo

    The Internet news source The Daily reported this week that 7 million pounds (3.2 million kg) of the product — beef trimmings treated partly with ammonium hydroxide to fight contamination — would appear in school lunches this spring.

    "All USDA ground beef purchases must meet the highest standards for food safety," the agency said in a statement.

    "USDA has strengthened ground beef food …

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/food/what-is-really-in-your-hamburger.html

  • Another school shooting, another failure of ‘Gun-free schools’ act

    Dave Workman
    Seattle Gun Rights Examiner

    With last week’s shooting incident at a Bremerton-area elementary school fresh on everyone’s mind, today’s deadly shooting at an Ohio high school comes as one more reminder that the legislative panacea to such incidents, adopted more than a decade ago, just might be a fraud.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x2YC5cVxTcQ

    As this column is written, the count is one dead, four wounded and one teen in custody after having apparently given …

    http://www.2ndamendmenttv.com/videos/attacks-on-our-rights/john-stossels-gun-laws-that-kill-.html

  • Leon Panetta cites UN & NATO, not Congress, as 'legal basis' for military action

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNwOeyuG84&feature=player_embedded

    Panetta: UN Approval, Not Congressional Action, Can Justify Military Strike on Syria

    The Obama administration can obtain “legal” authority for a military strike on Syria from the UN or NATO, and no congressional authorization is necessary, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta insisted during testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee.

    “When it comes to the kind of military action where we want to build a coalition with our international partners, then we would like to have some kind of legal basis on which to do it, as we did in Libya,” Panetta said during an extended colloquy with Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Alabama).

    Significantly, the Obama administration’s intervention in Libya was coordinated by the NATO alliance (a regional UN affiliate), which acted on the supposed authority provided by a UN Security Council resolution issued in response to a petition from the Arab League. Congress played no role whatsoever in authorizing the action. As Republic has previously noted, the same Power Elite players who choreographed the Libyan intervention have revised that script, re-casting …

    http://www.republicmagazine.com/news/panetta-un-approval-not-congressional-action-can-justify-military-strike-on-syria.html

  • bleep_hits_blades

    About HAARP – I am not really obsessed with it, though it may look that way. But it is important enough not to be dismissed out-of-hand as 'conspiracy theory' – which I feel many have done.

    Dutchsinse on You Tube was doing a lot of work on HAARP, showing that HAARP radar signatures seemed to indicate 'storm steering' in the midwest – which is one of HAARP's uses. Triggering earthquakes is another.

    Anyway, Dutch got really beset by trolls; and his best friend even got shot! He lived, but it was just luck that he did. Dutch even got kicked off of U tube. But he protested, negotiated, and got re-instated. Dutch seems to be a really fine guy btw and a good researcher. I respect him a lot.

    Leuren Moret has done several vids on HAARP, they are U Tube – if you check them out I think you will agree that she comes across as very intelligent and a very competent and tireless researcher. I have been consistently impressed with her work.

    Now – I am in Hawaii, and we have been having very strange weather – unusually heavy and prolonged rain, huge hail balls (really unheard of here), thunder and lightening – also extremely unusual here, especially the prolonged t. & l. episodes.

    Unusual weather such as this is indeed suspicious – does indicate possible HAARP activity.

    Re whether HAARP was in fact used to trigger the big Fuk. quake – Moret is VERY interesting on this subject as she cites detectable HAARP signature activity in the area prior to the big quake.

  • bleep_hits_blades

    contd.

    Now – re the fact that the damage from the Fuk. quake has been SO severe, causing us all to say, surely the elites would not benefit from such a humongous, potentially ELE level event…. well it is a good point, and I have thought that myself. But then it did occur to me — well, is HAARP when used to trigger earthquakes a fine-tuned sort of thing or more an unpredictable thing, in terms of the magnitide of the quake it triggers? My point is that possibly the intention was not necessarily to trigger quite so catastrophically huge a quake.

    HAARP can guide storms, and, I believe, intensify them, and stall them; and rainstorms do bring down the radionuclides. So here in Hawaii,for the past more than a week it has been so rainy. (as it also was right after the Fuk.quake, causing a rain-down of radionuclides here, also in the Bay area of Calif.)

    My louvered windows in my apartment – I cannot even close them all the way. The wind blows in, the rain falls right outside my door. I don't obsess about it, but of course I can't help thinking about it. I have really been nuked (inhaled radionuclides), for the past year, and I have had this not very good sounding cough for the past year.

    What I'd really like to do (I think, been analyzing myself here) is get more of the good brains here to do a bit of delving into HAARP info. (If in fact I do have an 'agenda', I think that is what it is.) Truth is, mine is not a technical mind and furthermore I am a monkey-mind, undisciplined and don't always concentrate well on anything that takes much effort – which scientific/technical stuff does for me – take effort, that is.

    Maybe I am hoping to get some of you tecchie-minds to get interested and do a bit of HAARP research. I'd be so interested in your opinions/analyses and the info you dredge up.

    There are so many good minds coming here and posting, observing, analyzing, commenting – that is one of the great things about enenews.com.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Fukushima Radiation and Fallout Projections
    15 Jan – 21 Jan 2012
    North America

    Fukushima Day 312 – The 72 hour Radiation FALLOUT FORECAST for Canada, USA & Europe – HEADS UP uploaded by connectingdots1 on Jan 16, 2012. See more comments at "Fukushima Day 312" below.

    http://www.amfir.com/AmFirstInst/NonToolbarTopics/Black_Ops/Japan_Quake-Nuclear_Catastrophe_2011/Radiation_Forecasts/2012/01-15_01-21/Radiation_index.html

  • It's Bike Week here started yesterday, half million bikers in town they say so far, we have spots of rain off and on the last 24 hours, YUK ! Lots of fun still, 8 more days of par-dy time and ridein hopefully no more rain ! Been great weather for weeks and … LOL

    Home – Daytona Beach Bike Week
    ENTER TO WIN · American Iron Magazine · Home · Treasure Hunt · Hogs on the Hill · Bike Week Parade · Create Event List · 2012 Event Calendar· Add Your …
    http://www.officialbikeweek.com/

    DAYTONA BIKE WEEK 2012 EVENTS & BIKETOBERFEST 2012 …
    … DURING BIKE WEEK & BIKETOBERFEST . AND PHOTOS FROM PAST
    YEARS daytona bike week events. … COM · Daytona Beach Weather Forecast, FL …
    http://www.daytonabikeweekevents.com/

    Come on down, I'll put you up a few days !

    : )

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Anne, thanks for the links.

    I spend sometimes hours a day pouring over the info on enenews – there is a lot. (Yes, I am obsessed – nervously, anxiously, fearfully obsessed – as we used to say back in my hippie days, freaked out).

    If I'd not been posting about HAARP here, you would not have sent the above response, with the link with the interview with the Finnish activist. I had seen that interview already (it is excellent), but not the one in which he mentions HAARP – on the sidebar.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcXSgP8qQMw&feature=related

    This one I found to be fascinating. His theory about HAARP and its role in triggering the Fuk. quake is different from Moret's. Both are plausible on their face, at least to a non-specialist/ non-scientist like myself.

    If I had not been discussing HAARP here, you'd not have posted that, and I'd not have found that video.

    I don't really think that all the research has been done, not by a long shot, and certainly much of it has not reached many people, even many here on enenews.

    Yes, we are 'waiting for Armageddon' but – can't we, if so inclined, pursue various studies, while we are 'waitin' for to die'…?

    • StillJill StillJill

      bleep,…you said "Hippy days, "Freaked out". Did you guys say this one too? "Freakin' FREELY!"???

      That is what I am right now,…Freakin' FREELY!

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Joint USAF/NOAA Report of Solar and Geophysical Activity 10 March 2012
    http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=40218

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Dutchsinse – HAARP info(patents, applications, etc.)

    Dutch is another hero of mine – a very bright guy, puts out good information. This is pretty technical; others here have more of the technical intelligence for exploring this information. Worth checking out. 13 minute video on You Tube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRCCmk7lPE0&feature=related

  • Virginia State Delegate Bob Marshall discusses H.B. 1160, against illegal detention

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X34FUE4u7t4

    Virginia State Senate Passes Bill Forbidding Indefinite Detention of Americans

    ‘Council of Governors’ member McDonnell could try to sabotage anti-NDAA law

    The Virginia Senate has passed a law that forbids authorities in the state from using the ‘indefinite detention’ provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act against Americans, but whether or not Governor Bob McDonnell will sign it remains to be seen given the fact that he is a member of Barack Obama’s infamous ‘Council of Governors’, whose role it is to increase military involvement in domestic affairs.

    “Today, the Virginia State Senate nearly unanimously passed my bill, HB 1160, to prevent Virginia’s state and local government agencies from …

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/virginia-state-senate-passes-bill-forbidding-indefinite-detention-of-americans.html

  • 2010 Wildfires in Russia Spread Chernobyl Radiation Again
    To Japan Earthquake on Thursday, March 24, 2011
    http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/505/617/2010_Wildfires_in_Russia_Spread_Chernobyl_Radiation_Again.html

    Scottish Sheep Farms finally free of Chernobyl Fallout
    To Japan Earthquake on Thursday, March 24, 2011
    http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/505/601/Scottish_Sheep_Farms_finally_free_of_Chernobyl_Fallout.html

    Radioactive Boars Part of Chernobyl's Legacy
    To Japan Earthquake on Thursday, March 24, 2011
    http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/505/588/Radioactive_Boars_Part_of_Chernobyls_Legacy.html

  • Space storm sparks Northern Lights

    5 images in this story

    A strong space weather storm packed a late punch overnight, sparking vivid displays of the Northern Lights in some parts of the world.

    The explosion of radiation from the Sun ended up being the most significant geomagnetic event since 2004.

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/glanceview/219677/space-storm-sparks-northern-lights.glance

  • Eugenicists in California trained the Nazis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fFbOg_cSZsE

    The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

    Hitler and his henchmen victimized an entire continent and exterminated millions in his quest for a co-called "Master Race." But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

    Eugenics was the racist pseudoscience determined to wipe away all human beings deemed "unfit," preserving only those …

    http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=609

  • StillJill StillJill

    Very cool CB! The last link I was unable to decipher,…but the first two were 'something'! Thanks friend! 🙂

  • bleep_hits_blades

    StillJill, never heard that phrase, but yes, that is what I am doing, 'freaking freely'. And semi-continuously. Me no like!

    (Finally, fully) realizing that sociopaths with a heavy cocaine habit are running the world can do that to ya…

  • StillJill StillJill

    Coke-adled??? Yes that would do it. Mark always used to say here, "Call in the hookers n' blow!"

    You know that wouldn't bloody surprise me ONE IOTA!

    Thanks blades,…now I'm going down a whole 'nother rabbit hole! 🙂

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Re the 'politicians are druggies' rabbit hole… lots of info on that. (Not all politicians, of course, but shockingly, a lot of them are – after all, many of them are sociopaths, as we are learning.)

    Some older books – (look them up on Amazon, then scroll down & check out 'people who bought this also bought' – by reading the various blurbs & reviews, one can learn a lot, & if you see a book you might like to read, check & see if it is available from your local library system):

    THE POLITICS OF HEROIN by Alfred McCoy Ph.D.

    COMPROMISED by Terry Reed

    Online look up Freeway Ricky Ross

    Also the work of Catherine Austin Fitts

    A related book is THE FRANKLIN COVER-UP by John deCamp (highly recommend it!)

    I know there are things on You Tube about these subjects so first thing might be to search using some of these names/phrases.

    Basically, as Fitts (she has a Ph.D., was with HUD I believe)goes into, the CIA/USG & other governments are heavily into the illegal drug trade, & the main reason that recreational drugs are kept illegal & treated as a criminal problem is to keep the ROI high (return on investment). Make anything illegal – anything people want & use, like eggs or milk, even – and its price will go way up, like by about 20-fold, in the case of recreational drugs.

    Drug ABUSE (as opposed to use) is best treated as a mental health issue.

    People always have & are always going to be using recreational drugs, & government has no right to make them illegal. In Holland I believe drug ABUSE is treated as a mental health problem – it works out much better.

    Of course the USA has the biggest percentage (of all nations in the world) of its pop. behind bars now – prisons are being privatized… the prisoners provide a cheap labor supply…

    Thanks for being interested! Now you know another reason I'm 'freaking freely.' It's scary & depressing, to learn that these are the kind of people we have running our (& other countries).

  • openeye openeye

    Hi all,

    ~Shimatsu has a lot to say about HAARP EMF combining with radiation to inadvertantly cause the most recent storms in the Midwest, and on globalism in general near the end of his current MP3 update at rense.com.

    ~Thanks, Kevin, for reminding us of the Yazuka factor–it is VITAL in the whole Fukushima picture.

    ~Kevin, if you see this I really need your take on the ulterior agenda explaining why the most impressive/high powered of the truth sleuths have avoided systematic and in-depth coverage of Fukushima. You said that except for Corbett there is an ulterior motive at work. PLEASE help me to understand this in greater detail. You said it was related to the "limited hangout" of 9/11 truthers, but the big gun sleuths I am referring to–Chossudovsky, Tarpley, Watson et al have been anything but limited in filling the vacuum of MSM, until…the most important issue concerning the future of sentient beings and planet earth.

    There is so much at work contriving to drive us insane–for me, this issue is one of the biggies–it steals my fire. So many thanks to all here who keep it stoked!!!

  • 1984

    HAPPY 1ST ANNIVERSARY WORLD TO OUR ORCHESTRATED IONIZED DEATHS.
    AND WHY ON THIS DAY ON DISCOVERY CHANNEL THEIR HAVING A DOOMSDAY MARATHON ?

  • bleep_hits_blades

    openeye, not to be argumentative, but I don't see Webster Tarpley as being a trustworthy analyst, primarily because of his socialist/collectivist economic leanings. He is a big FDR cheerleader, & there's a lot of info about FDR – that he was not a 'man of the people' & the 'hero who brought us out of the Great Depression.' FDR actually came from an old monied family & was a 'Wall Street man' & supported by Wall Street money.

    The Great Depression was actually created by deliberate Fed Res. policy – the Fed was created in 1913 & enabled the US participation in (& to an extent, bankrolling of) WW I. The 'Roaring '20s' were 'roaring' (flush with prosperity) because the Fed was printing money – money of no substance, money that falsely signaled new wealth entering the economy, when in fact it was only new paper entering the economy. The Great Depression was the 'market correction' – but was used by the money men – with whom FDR closely worked – to transform the country – the 'finishing touches' – FROM CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC TO CORPORATE STATE – which is the title of a most revealing (and well footnoted)scholarly monograph by Dr. Walker F. Todd, Ph.D. who has worked for the Fed.

    Another book which supports (with documentation) what I am saying is Antony Sutton's WALL STREET AND FDR.

    Collectivism is actually the brain-child of the big money men. It appeals to the masses, pits the lower & middle classes against one another, & violates the Constitution in a couple of fatal & important ways – it allows govt. to violate our privacy and to confiscate our earnings. It also opens the door to 'corporate welfare' – to the 'too big to fails' as seen recently, the Wall Street pay-overs – &, pertinent to our main subject on this website, the taxpayer subsidization of the nuclear power industry.

    Mises.org is a great website. Murray Rothbard is a great economist & has written several excellent books dealing with 'what shall we use as money'?…

  • bleep_hits_blades

    My objection to Tarpley is that he is too smart not to know this information about FDR,collectivism, states of emergency, the actual causes of the Great Depression, and the expedient uses that were made of it to fundamentally transform our government, under emergency, BY-PASSING due process of law, as Todd's book so succinctly and accurately states – FROM CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC (what was left of it, that is) TO CORPORATE STATE.

    So I see Tarpley as a dis-info source.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    National State of Emergency, on-going: Governments love nat'l. states of emergency (so much POWER!) and do not willingly give them up.

    http://www.fame.org/HTM/Senate%20Report%2093-549%20War%20and%20Emergency%20Powers%20Acts.htm

    FDR used the Fed-engineered Great Depression as the pretext to confiscate all the gold of American Citizens, and to put the country into a state of national emergency which was continuously renewed for the next more than 4 decades as well as to implement socialistic changes in government which fundamentally altered out government away from that form created by the Founding Fathers.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act

    9/11 was used as the pretext to put the USA into a state of national emergency which is still in effect.

    I have read that a state of national emergency suspends all civil law and places the country under a military dictatorship form of government under the acting POTUS as military commander-in-chief. Government then is modeled on a monarchy, with to POTUS having the power to make law by utterance or edict (Executive Orders).

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Induction Magnetometer, Gakona, AK
    http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/cgi-bin/scmag/disp-scmag.cgi?date=latest&Bx=on

    The frequency isn't 2.5, but from what I have read, this is still an earthquake frequency but it won't be as deep as when they use a 2.5 frequency.

  • bleep_hits_blades

    For any who might be interested/curious – Leuren Moret interview with Alfred Webre on: Japan Earthquake and Nuclear “Accident” are Tectonic Nuclear Warfare. For those not interested in listening to the entire interview, there is a written summary available.

    http://aircrap.org/scientist-leuren-moret-japan-earthquake-nuclear-accident-tectonic-nuclear-warfare/331159/

    This is on the website aircrap.org, which presents info on chemtrails/geoengineering.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Europe Stunned After Being Told “Obama Is Not In Charge”
    Posted by EU Times on Sep 18th, 2011
    http://www.eutimes.net/2011/09/europe-stunned-after-being-told-obama-is-not-in-charge/