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  • Anthony Anthony

    Miami, New York, other coastal areas may be more at risk to sea rise from global warming
    By Seth Borenstein, The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – 12 hours ago

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Anthropogenic global warming: a contrarian view

    This view is certainly worth considering. Just a couple of salient facts – there have been previous warming/cooling cycles over the centuries (which global warming advocates really don't like to talk about). I also read that other planets like Mars, have also been experiencing warmer temperatures – which of course can't be 'anthropogenic.' Pre-industrial cycles – for instance in a cooling period the Thames River froze over. In a warming period the Vikings colonized Greenland and tried farming, animal husbandry, but cooling set in and that effort failed.

    I've read articles that dispute that human produced CO2 can or does have more than a tiny effect. I have read that the planetary warming and cooling cycles are a function of solar flare activity cycles.

    Also have read that – this is yet another 'op' – to restrict us, tax us, control us, and reshape the world according to the NWO plan.

    I believe support for this theory is growing.

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      "I believe support for this theory is growing."
      In parts of the US, yes, sadly, because the Heartland Inst. and other crazies pay for it. It's a shame.
      It's a shame.
      Ever wondered why India is building that massive fence / wall along the border to Bangladesh? Because the Bangladesh people will be literally drowning in the decades to come and will have to seek higher ground to survive. Nowhere to go.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      As more and more fissioning nuclear waste is dumped into the ocean what is happening to the ocean temperature? As the fissioning will last a million years, how long do you think it will take to cool?

      Every time something is sent into space the atmosphere is sliced and is unrepairable. As all the ionospheric heaters are used every day around the globe the ozone hole widens at the Arctic Circle. As the sun's rays penetrate more and more through the atmosphere how can this possibly be repaired? What do you think the ionospheric heaters, used for tomography and weather modification, are doing to the temperature of the earth?

      As more and more Krypton-85 is released from nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons plants how will this change the temperature of the earth?

      Tritium and noble gases released from every nuclear plant into the air and water also increases temperatures. How can this be stopped when the amount of radioactive waste increases dramatically every year?

      Fracking and the rise in temperature both release methane into the atmosphere. What do you think this is doing to the climate?

      Ever see the Navy's new map?

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Also, in political primaries, the polls haven't been accurate for years for a number of different reasons.

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      A good read in my opinion is the study "The Age of Consequences", published in 2008. It draws a picture of life on this planet under 3 different climate change scenarios (inevitable, severe, catastrophic) on 124 pages.

      It reflects different aspects, from migration (nationwide or transcontinental – "national security" comes into play :-(), to water scarcities which already show to the information that almost all coastal waters or river deltas worldwide which serve as fish nurseries today will be gone due to rising sea levels.
      Anyone still wondering about the rising number of tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic should have a close look at page 39.

      We are wrecking our planet, and we're heading towards scenario 3 fast.

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      From the site bleep posted:
      "We both now know that CO2 can't possibly be the evil byproduct all the ballyhoo has been claiming, and in fact, our biologist friends tell us if we could increase the CO2 content a little more, the planet would be much the richer… because plants love it, grow much larger with more of it, and we all like to eat."
      "CO2 is not a significant greenhouse gas; 95% of the contribution is due to Water Vapor."
      "The Antarctic Ice cover is currently the largest ever observed by satellite, and periodic ice shelf breakups are normal and correlate well with localized tectonic and geothermal activity along the Antarctic Peninsula."

      Utter bullshit. This is what NASA says:

      "There has been lots of talk lately about Antarctica and whether or not the continent's giant ice sheet is melting. One new paper, which states there’s less surface melting recently than in past years, has been cited as "proof" that there’s no global warming. Other evidence that the amount of sea ice around Antarctica seems to be increasing slightly 2-4 is being used in the same way.
      But both of these data points are misleading. Gravity data collected from space using NASA's Grace satellite show that Antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002. The latest data reveal that Antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too. (…)
      Measurements from the Grace satellites confirm that Antarctica is losing mass. Isabella Velicogna of JPL and the University of California, Irvine, uses Grace data to weigh the Antarctic ice sheet from space. Her work shows that the ice sheet is not only losing mass, but it is losing mass at an accelerating rate. "The important message is that it is not a linear trend. A linear trend means you have the same mass loss every year. The fact that it’s above linear, this is the important idea, that ice loss is increasing with time," she says.


    This one's for those who want to know what's on the burner. Be advised, the blog responses that follow this Daily Mail press release, border on the infantile. Considering how insular most are in these days, that's to be expected…

    'Startram' magnetic space train could deliver four million people a year into orbit by 2032, say designers

    The Startram Project website

    Startram FAQ (PDF)

    Startram Guide (PDF)

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    March 22, 2012

    Recent & Upcoming Earth-asteroid encounters:
    Asteroid Date(UT) Miss Distance Mag. Size
    2012 DW60
    Mar 12 2.5 LD — 23 m
    2012 EM5
    Mar 12 5.6 LD — 36 m
    2012 EJ5
    Mar 13 5.5 LD — 13 m
    1999 RD32
    Mar 14 57.9 LD — 2.4 km
    2011 YU62
    Mar 16 73.4 LD — 1.3 km
    2012 EK5
    Mar 22 5.8 LD — 33 m

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Planetary Alignment / Earthquake Watch March 21-22, 2012
      “This is a Planetary Alignment Earthquake watch video, program used in this Heliocentric visual representation is Simsolarv2.0 and solar system scope.

      One very strong alignments involving (Sun-Earth-Mercury-Uranus) as well as significant astrological aspects involving the moon which may represent a possible 8.0 Magnitude earthquake on one of these days.

      Lunar modulation indicates the pacific island region could be the area that receives this event. Best mapped location:
      Aleutian Islands, Alaska.

      This is my own analysis using Heliocentric Imagery, geocentric portrait and harmonic translations to predict possible effects here on earth. i am using astrology in this forecast in-conjunction with lunar modulations.

      Results will be annotated as the end of this video

      Astrologer Contact Information
      Alandra –
      Phillippa –…”
      Plus many links……

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      TRUTH March 22nd 2012 3-22-12 may produce another massive earthquake.mp4

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      March 22, 2012 Next MEGAQUAKE & Axis Shift? (Short Version)

      • CB CB

        Hi anne, what do you think the window of time is?

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          I have no idea. I personally doubt if it really matters. I think the tipping point was reached in the 1940s. The creators of the atom bomb wondered if the whole world would explode with the first test. They knew what they had created. But too many people didn't listen to them.


            @anne: it was the first hydrogen bomb test that some thought may have threatened the ignition of the planet's atmosphere; thereby causing a global firestorm. It would be interesting to know who objected to this test. It's hard to believe that given the possibility of this happening, they felt they had enough knowledge to go ahead with the test, anyway! Which brings up the next logical question: if you knew the effects (and limitations) of such testing, why then would you need to do the testing? The answer should be obvious. But just in case the reader's not sure of the answer, it's because they – really – didn't know what would happen!

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake Warning For March 22, 2012 @ 4:58:34 UTC
    “The historical and geological records say the Earth and particularly the Pacific Ring of Fire will experience a 9+ magnitude quake event on March 22, 2012 @ 4:58:34 UTC where Earth axis is expected to shift 5+ inches. Earth experienced a simlar event on February 27, 2010 and March 11, 2011 and we expect the 188-day Cycle Pattern to continue. Everyone living in a seismic zone should pay careful attention to events transpiring around March 22, 2012 along with people living near the coasts.

    "Original March 22, 2012 Warning Video:…”

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Japan Earthquakes 2011 Timeline – YouTube.flv

  • Ohio Governor Corners Obama at NCAA Basketball Game to Talk Shale

    President Obama takes British leader to NCAA basketball game in Ohio,0,2293858.story

    2 80 minute flights, Air-force !
    At a cost of Half a million $ added your taxes !
    22 million still out of work !

    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication


      Now that's change you can believe in! Reminds me of the parties held by the Vanderbilts of Asheville at the height of the depression. No expense spared while people were starving.

  • *VIDEO* Beef Industry Defends 'Pink Slime'
    As the public outrage over "pink slime" continues, the beef industry responds, defending the use of beef byproducts and touting their safety and quality…. continue


    Good morning to all on enenews! I know these many revelations border on the unbearable, but we must all hold the line and remain strong…

  • aigeezer aigeezer

    Yet another "big brother" story, this time from the British press.

    "Cameras at petrol stations will automatically stop uninsured or untaxed vehicles from being filled with fuel, under new government plans."

    I wonder how this technology will evolve. I'll keep my old bicycle, just in case.

    • Sickputer

      Ha ha… You Limies have such a terrible compliance rate of uninsured drivers (1 out of 25). Try 1 in 4 in Texas and 1 in 3 in Colorado to name just two states in the Top Ten for worst car insurance compliance.

      The average person in Texas would probably jump at the idea of Big Brother muzzling the poor scofflaws. As for me I am torn by the camera idea. It does sound interesting, but the possibility of it happening in a free rights state like Texas would be doubtful. It also will create secondary criminal behaviors as gray markets arise to sell gasoline to the uninsured. Firemen will be busy with gasoline fires at unsafe dispensing outlets.

      Uninsured drivers will also steal gas from other cars. Sometimes instead of siphoning they will just crawl under a car with a chisel or screwdriver and punch a hole in your gas tank. Lovely repair bill.

      No, the gas station idea, while tempting is fraught with peril. Far better in my opinion to just mount id-cameras on the front of police cars and have them patrol and issue citations and impound vehicles for multiple offenders.

      One reason the US system is so flawed is because the insurance computers and state registration databases do not communicate. So when Johnny buys car insurance and lets it lapse there is no alert to police. The naked apes in blue are not smart enough in America to connect the dots. But the IT movement will eventually get to them as some bright naked ape bureaucrat will point out the money for interlinked databases and money for roving cruiser mounted ID cameras will pay off almost as much profit as their dope war profits. And with less physical risk except when they get a daily double. an uninsured car plus dope addicts who may or may not shoot back. A financial windfall for the government awaits them but they are currently too oblivious to see it.

      • aigeezer aigeezer

        I hadn't thought much about the insurance side of it – I figured that was just a trial balloon to get the technology in place.

        My guess is that the system would soon morph into one that refused fuel to anyone on any list the government had. Today insurance scofflaws, tomorrow fleeing felons, no-fly/no-drive, alimony deadbeats, dissidents, suspected whatevers, blue cars, green cars, beret wearers, hangnail growers….

        We'll find out.

      • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication


        "Uninsured drivers will also steal gas from other cars."

        That's called the poor man's credit card.

    • They can shut all vehicles down via satellite since 1976, in brains of vehicles in case of marshal law to control peoples movements !

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Wooohooo! 15.5 GW solar yield at this moment over here! That's like 10 nukes! Look at this, a pronuker's nightmare come true.
    I can't wait for the summer. 🙂


      @BreadAndButter: thanks for the link!

      Once you understand how much solar energy is impinging on a square meter of earth each day, you'll never want to look back at. Thankfully, the technology has arrived that will make solar/renewables the only practical choice for energy production…

  • Sickputer

    Dick thd Butcher in Henry The Sixth, Part 2 Act 4, scene 2, 71–78
    "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."


    If the Bard were alive today I think he might substitute a different class of bureaucrats for the pogrom.


    Some of you will doubtless be interested in this…

    "Eureka! A Senator Who Finally Gets It"

    Followup to the article:

    "Clean Energy Standard Act of 2012"

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      What a scam and deceptions at its height. Nuclear power is NOT clean and NEVER will be. Clean coal will never be clean.

      March 1, 2012
      Clean Energy Standard Act of 2012
      Measure To Drive Cleaner Electricity Generation in America’s Power Sector

      “…To be considered “clean,” a generator must either be a zero-carbon source of energy, like renewables and nuclear power, or have a lower carbon intensity than a modern, efficient coal plant. (Carbon intensity means the amount of carbon dioxide emitted per megawatt-hour of electricity generated.) Accounting for “clean” this way means that the cleanest resources have the greatest incentive, and also that every generator has a continuing incentive to become even more efficient….”

      • aigeezer aigeezer

        That is sobering, Anne. Before I saw your post I was going to write something to the effect that I'd be wary of any government/industry promise to fix what government/industry has broken. I self-censored, thinking I should not be cynical. Then I saw your post. Ouch.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        TYPO: deception


        @anne: this bill is an initiative to get a clean energy policy on the books. It's not about nuclear energy.

        "It sets a national goal for clean energy and establishes a transparent framework that lets resources compete based on how clean they are, then gets out of the way and lets the market and American ingenuity determine the best paths forward."

        It forces the door open on what is and isn't clean. You have to accept that they'll be placing 'conventional' energy systems (nuclear/coal/gas) on the table, as any failure to do so will result in this bill never seeing the light of day (pun intended).

        You're smart enough to know what's going on. Why then, would you not want a policy review of supposed clean energy systems? This is an opportunity to set criteria for what is and what won't be supported by federal tax dollars. Just imagine who'll be fighting this legislation and you'll know why it should be given a chance. The solar/renewables industry needs this…

    • aigeezer aigeezer

      I think stock from Hawaii posted that a senator there "gets it" also. (I'm going from memory).

      I'm in Canada, and I'm not aware of any of our government types who "get it" except the one very marginalized MP from the Green Party.

      • Mack Mack

        From link by Aftershock:

        "Eureka! A Senator Who Finally Gets It"

        "Email your Representatives and Senators (you can find their contact information here for Representatives and here for Senators) and tell them you support Senator Bingaman’s legislation. We’ve never been this close to a national standard before — let’s not let this opportunity slip through our fingers."

        • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

          @Mack, "“To be considered ‘clean’, a generator must either be a zero-carbon source of energy, such as renewables and nuclear power, or have a lower carbon intensity than a modern, efficient coal plant…"

          I can not support the Clean Energy Standard Act of 2012, I can not support Senator Bingaman’s legislation. I would like to see something else.

          • Mack Mack

            OH wow. I thought he was promoting solar! Thanks.

            • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

              No worries 🙂 It is common to lump Nuclear power into "clean" energy.. we have to be very careful.. Nuclear clean..bhahahbahahaa right? Sneaky bastards.. big money greed..

              promote, yet do not fund solar and wind power.. promote and fund nuclear power..

              as Karl points out in his book a study in 1978 by the Environment, Energy, and Natural Resources subcommittees' report "Nuclear Power Costs", renewable energy sources such as solar and conservation, are cheaper and produce more jobs…" that same study went on to say.."If the federal government spent only a small portion of what it has already spent on nuclear power development for the commercialization of solar power, solar generated electricity would be economically feasible within five years."

              So imagine in 1978, we could have had real representation in know, for the people, by the people, as opposed to for the corporation by the corporation, and funded solar power, we would be, 35 years down the road to cheaper cleaner energy..our economy would be booming! Because even back then, there was a STRONG correlation between rising electricity rates and use of nuclear power.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Too many individuals in power HAVE A SCREW LOOSE.



      @anne: I can look back and see images of people holding signs decrying the use of nuclear power technology and demanding that it be immediately dismantled. Fast forward through those protests and any honest/pragmatic assessment will reveal that little has been accomplished. Most will not like these words but they're only fooling themselves if they think otherwise. If it hadn't been for this latest catastrophe (Fukushima), many would've blithely continued eating their cheese and stepping through an endless array of televised entertainment. Fact is, most who know of this catastrophe would rather turn-away from its harsh implications. Doubt this? Then ask where the crowd was, over these last few years, after Chernobyl? Millions have suffered (and continue to) throughout Central Europe (and elsewhere) and yet NPPs have since been put on order by almost every nation that 'thinks' they can afford them. Last weekend, the WSJ ran an article that quantified the hundreds of NPPs that are being built; yet none of these projects have been cancelled since Fukushima!

      So, aside from the converted, are they getting it? No…they're not!

      Which brings me back to this 'clean' energy bill. Without such initiatives, we'll be sitting here for a few more decades beating drums and screaming holy hell. And guess what that'll get us?! A lot more pollution and lost time; precious time that we can no longer afford to lose! To counter the entrenched powers that be, we have to start supporting economic forces/policies/initiates/alliances that promise real change. We can't just wait for it!

      True, we have to remain on guard against further degradation of our environment. We must all continue holding the light of truth. But let's also hold that light for those who'll be calculating the – real cost – of nuclear power's 'clean' energy myth…

  • Deformed Baby Unites a Community –

    Baby Adam came into the world with no eyelids, no nose, no hands, and legs fused together. His birth parents abandoned him, but God had bigger plans… The Christian Broadcasting Network CBN

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    …ya ..gotta have fire power against the hungry and the disillusioned..the poor and the sick..
    …gotta have muscle against those trying to bring truth into this world.
    As they suit up…they suit up against the common defend the wealthy..
    ..all the while..the wealthy consider them ..just another cop on the beat…

    • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

      Every police dept. needs drones to go along with the microwave, brain -fryin, hi freq. electro magnetic heat ray mounted on a Hummer. Sick shit.
      Heart….great post, by the way.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    …and to those there… in the military/industrial complex…Heart asks this?
    How many? How many incarnations will you wear the sharp uniform and shiny medals..before you are in defense of the people?
    This life life…?
    Tin Soldiers…


      Fear not good soul, as justice was never determined by or found through the barrel of a gun. There a many good LEOs and IOs who know exactly what's going on. Unlike those who 'think' they're in control, they'll not betray their brothers and sisters. That's one of the reasons behind the imposition of technical versus human control of the people. Those at the top already know they're loosing the battle. They'll attempt to get us to think otherwise. Thinking otherwise was what got them into power. Thinking otherwise will be solution. It now remains a matter of how they'll extricate themselves from the past and move forward.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    There is no way you can include nuclear in a clean energy bill. Nuclear energy is the dirtiest energy and the most unsafe medically. An accident from a nuclear power plant renders the land uninhabitable for a million years. How is that clean? Asking people to support a clean energy bill that includes nuclear is the saddest thing I have even seen. Doesn't the Senator have any conscience? By the time the elite see the error of their ways [if ever] it will be way to late. It is already too late for Chernobyl and Fukushima. Also many have died because of Three Mile Island and the Santa Susanna disasters, disasters at Los Alamos and Hanford, WA. How many have to die? How many deadly genetic mutations are possible before the human race is extinct? How many nuclear disasters must happen before the earth is completely destroyed? The elite and those in the power structure don't even look at the evidence with their own eyes. They are just puppets of the insane.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake 15 March 2012, 4:20 JST
    Magnitude5.1 Date-Time
    • Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 19:20:18 UTC
    • Friday, March 16, 2012 at 04:20:18 AM at epicenter
    Location 35.794°N, 139.213°E Depth99.9 km (62.1 miles) RegionNEAR THE SOUTH COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Distances50 km (31 miles) WNW of TOKYO, Japan
    53 km (32 miles) NW of Yokohama, Honshu, Japan
    58 km (36 miles) ENE of Kofu, Honshu, Japan
    67 km (41 miles) S of Maebashi, Honshu, Japan

    This earthquake is 40.5 mi (65.20 km) NE from Mt Fuji volcano
    This earthquake is 41.1 mi (66.17 km) N from Mount Hakone volcano
    This earthquake is 97.3 mi (156.6 km) E from Mount Ontake volcano
    This earthquake is 90.6 mi (145.8 km) SW from Tokai Nuclear Power Plant
    This earthquake is 90.4 mi (145.5 km) SW from J-PARC
    This earthquake is 54.2 mi (87.17 km) SW from KEK, Tsukuba Science City
    Tokai NPP 36°27′59″N 140°36′24″E
    J-PARC 36.4584988N 140.6081772E
    KEK, Tsukuba Science City, 36°08′55″N, 140°04′37″E
    Mount Fuji
    3776 12,388 35.358°N 138.731°E
    Mount Hakone
    1438 4720 35.22°N 139.02°E
    950 BC ± 100 years
    Mount Ontake
    3063 10,049 35.890°N 137.48°E

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Just a random earthquake posting …Kinda interested in those in Okla. and Colorado.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake 16 March 2012 16:26 JST
    Magnitude 4.8 Date-Time
    • Friday, March 16, 2012 at 06:26:15 UTC
    • Friday, March 16, 2012 at 04:26:15 PM at epicenter
    Location39.404°N, 144.444°E Depth37 km (23.0 miles) RegionOFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Distances281 km (174 miles) ESE of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
    284 km (176 miles) E of Morioka, Honshu, Japan
    333 km (206 miles) ENE of Sendai, Honshu, Japan
    584 km (362 miles) NE of TOKYO, Japan
    Location Uncertaintyhorizontal +/- 21.4 km (13.3 miles); depth +/- 6.6 km (4.1 miles)

  • NoNukes NoNukes


    How are you feeling today? I hope that your finger is better and that you are staying dry! :).

    • StillJill StillJill

      Thanks NoNukes! I am better! Got wet yesterday when my dogs wouldn't go inside,…but we took remediation soaks after.

      But I can feel the strontium in my bones,…and the cesium in my organs! No doubt in my mind!

      Did you guys hear that 'Gallager", the comedian, had a heart attack on stage yesterday? While slinging his mallet squashing watermellons!

      He is reported in "satisfactory condition".

  • Declaring war on newborns

    The argument made by the authors​—​Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva, both of them affliliated with prestigious universities in Australia and ethicists of pristine reputation​—​runs as follows. Let’s suppose a woman gets pregnant. She decides to go ahead and have the baby on the assumption that her personal circumstances, and her views on such things as baby-raising, will remain the same through the day she gives birth and beyond.

    Then she gives birth. Perhaps the baby is disabled or suffers a disease. Perhaps her boyfriend or (if she’s old-fashioned) her husband abandons her, leaving her in financial peril. Or perhaps she’s …

  • StillJill StillJill

    Big Pharma's going to try to crush Homeopothy in Australia

  • aigeezer aigeezer

    I stumbled on a blog that captivated me for hours – doesn't happen often. Lots of photo essays, generally with a "border" theme (I had been thinking about how radiation knows no man-made borders). Give it a look – see if it hooks you.

    I pointed the link below to a Japanese story. After that, click on any topic from the big list of "previous posts" on the right hand side:

    The themes are not generally energy-specific, but they'll sure make you think about the world we live in.

  • CB CB

    An oil platform on fire South Plaquemines parish. No oil spilling yet.

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Very interesting radio show about creating earthquakes, floods, weaponry applications of new scalar technology/energy weapons, HAARP, modifying the weather, tesla technology, with Leuren Moret and Alfred Webre. Haiti & other earthquakes, floods, etc. are discussed. Goes on to talk about the international drug racket, plans of the elites for moving forward with their one world monopoly on planetary wealth.

    She recommends the book Dope, Inc. which I read & was impressed with & now plan to buy & re-read. No, she's not a La Rouche-y but she says [some of] the info in that book is excellent. (which was my impression too. but in general la Rouche is very muddled. Roosevelt New Deal socialist, very flawed position & this can be demonstrated, is not mere opinion. good book on it is Antony Suttons Wall Street and FDR, see also Sutton's other books, check them out on Amazon and read reader reviews for a sense of what they are about. Sutton is a scholar and footnotes his books.)
    My notes from the radio show… ……

    towards the end she said that the elites want a FULLY SUBMISSIVE GLOBAL POPULATION; WANT TO ELIMINATE INTELLECTUALS, TAKE OUT THE RESISTORS. I agree – but a hard theory to entertain and a hard fact to look full in the face.

    HAARP (look it up on You Tube). These scalar/energy weapons are perfect as the catastrophes can be viewed as 'acts of god.' Haiti is a perfect example. it has a lot they want incl. mineral resources & can be used for recreation and agriculture and the people can be used for sweat shop labor.

    The elites are simply pillaging the planet & the pattern, & effort, goes back a long way as we know. (that is why she recommends Dope, Inc. – it goes into the early history of the drug trade.) HAARP used for land grabs, resource grabs.

  • bleep_hits_blades

    rest of notes –

    Bay area most overdue for a big quake and Bay area has a lot of activists they want to get rid of. Big quake could occur also off the Wash. state. coast. In that area.

    She says in the 60s the elites got together in Marin county and planned all of it, Viet Nam, Iraq, all the major stuff we have seen happen. Operation Northwoods — taking down the US.

    Illegal ops most profitable. That of course is why they keep rec. drugs illegal. (makes more sense to treat drug abuse as mental health problem, not criminalize it – but for one thing, in addition to the inflated profits that come from making anything illegal, (if eggs,bread, or milk were made illegal their price would go way up) the increasingly privatized prisons like the virtually free prison labor. the highly placed men at the top of the trade are not the ones who end up in prison, of course. Catherine Austin Fitts – among many others – has good info on this subject.)

    the offshore tax havens are former British colonies.

    they are running an international dope racket. its value is 5 times the value, yearly of the rest of the world economy. for money they use gold and diamonds.

    they are using opium to take down/destroy US just as they used it to take down China in the mid 1800s.

    they want to get rid of the young and energetic. they timed the Haiti earthquake for late afternoon, to wipe out the young working generation. they are doing this all over the world. take out the young. vaccines are a part of it.

    Plans for haiti sweatshop labor – garments – US and Canada will get this profitable plum.
    Ag will be taken over, mineral wealth too. Planned which countries will get those. Divying up the pie. Of course it is not just Haiti, on the menu….

    prohibition was put in in the US to set up the smuggling, organized crime, distribution routes for the planned drug business. when they got that all set up, they legalized booze once again.

    Antarctica has a lot of mineral wealth. the…

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Antarctica has a lot of mineral wealth. the whole Falklands thing was because England wants them as a spot from which they can be positioned to take advantage of the considerable mineral wealth of Antarctica.

    She said that Dope, Inc. lays it out very well and basically it is the same people today running the drug rackets and looting the planet as back in the 1700s-1800s. Dope inc very well researched book.

    Their two 'legs'- the military and organized crime.

    As you can tell from listening to her, she is very sharp. The whole program is worth listening and there are other links I plan to check out too.

    Woodpecker – Russia – mind control op against US people . Russia and the US are pretend enemies.

    Bertrand Russell – an insider, a very dangerous person.

    Chile has largest copper deposits in the world in the Atacami (sp?) Desert

    Anglo American elites concerned Argentina/Brazil/Chile might make deals with China or Russia.

    MK Ultra/Tavistock. Project Monarch.

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Posted the above notes 'as is,' because I had trouble making changes due to the template or whatever (ran into them in my sent mail, pasted into an email I'd sent on to a few contacts, while looking for something else). So I just gave up trying to make them look 'prettier' – they are legible as is. So – Leuren Moret – take her or leave her, but IMHO she is brilliant and extremely BRAVE.

    What she says above comports with (and in some cases extends) what I have discovered in several decades of reading and sleuthing.

  • CB CB

    2.2EQ today close to North Anna NPP. Thursday, March 15, 2012 at 18:30 in the evening at epicenter.

  • cnsrndctzn cnsrndctzn

    This may be a stretch, but does anyone think the massacre in Afghanistan had anything to do with diverting attention away from the one year anniversary of Fukushima? Many had hypothesized that there would be some kind of diversionary event around the one year anniversary. And think about it.

    The PTB would have to make it American related, for Americans don't really care (except the ones here) about what goes on in the rest of the world, and also the PTB would have to make the event important to the rest of the world. Bingo.

    And isn't it strange how have no names have been released? And also how for about 5 days we were told it was just one man, and now it is two groups? Isn't that something that would have been obvious from the outset if the news was coming from reliable sources, as opposed to the event being laundered by the intelligence community?

    • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

      My opinion: These corporate bastards just send the same, young, one half of one percent of the US population that joins the military back into the "meat grinder" over and over and over again. If we still had a draft, these wars would be over or never even started. Military Ind complex LOVES all volunteer military….it effects such a small segment of American society. US govt to blame for constant deployment of the same guys, trashing their bodies and brains until they snap. This Sergeant was on his 4th tour, had a prior brain injury, had been told he wouldn't have to go again. He was in Afghanistan a month when he snapped. God bless him, and the Afghan families killed, and God Damn the corporate cowards that made this so inevitable.

    • NoNukes NoNukes


      Yes, I just explained my gut reaction to my husband that way! Glad I'm not the only one to go there. Nasty business all the way around.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake 17 Mar 2012 8:18 JST
    Magnitude4.7 Date-Time
    • Friday, March 16, 2012 at 23:18:19 UTC
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 08:18:19 AM at epicenter
    • Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
    Location35.812°N, 140.850°E Depth24.2 km (15.0 miles) RegionNEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Distances70 km (43 miles) SSE of Mito, Honshu, Japan
    100 km (62 miles) E of TOKYO, Japan
    117 km (72 miles) ENE of Yokohama, Honshu, Japan
    120 km (74 miles) SE of Utsunomiya, Honshu, Japan
    Location Uncertaintyhorizontal +/- 18.8 km (11.7 miles); depth +/- 8.8 km (5.5 miles)

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake 17 Mar 2012 3:37 JST
    Magnitude4.9 Date-Time
    • Friday, March 16, 2012 at 18:37:55 UTC
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 03:37:55 AM at epicenter
    • Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
    Location37.821°N, 133.600°E Depth426.2 km (264.8 miles) RegionSEA OF JAPAN Distances263 km (163 miles) NNW of Tottori, Honshu, Japan
    265 km (164 miles) N of Matsue, Honshu, Japan
    582 km (361 miles) E of SEOUL, South Korea
    598 km (371 miles) WNW of TOKYO, Japan
    Location Uncertaintyhorizontal +/- 12.4 km (7.7 miles); depth +/- 8.9 km (5.5 miles)

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake 17 Mar 2012 11:11 JST
    Magnitude4.6 Date-Time
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 01:11:38 UTC
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 11:11:38 AM at epicenter
    Location40.840°N, 144.604°E Depth34.4 km (21.4 miles) RegionOFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN Distances238 km (147 miles) S of Kushiro, Hokkaido, Japan
    258 km (160 miles) SSE of Obihiro, Hokkaido, Japan
    265 km (164 miles) E of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
    712 km (442 miles) NE of TOKYO, Japan
    Location Uncertaintyhorizontal +/- 21.8 km (13.5 miles); depth +/- 6.6 km (4.1 miles)

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Global warming/CO2

    I don't know much about Suzuki, but about the great CO2 threat, if you do a search on 'Anthropogenic global warming' or 'anthropogenic global warming hoax,' you will find many links on that.

    Global warming has become a great cause celebre of the liberal/environmentalist movement, but from what I have read, it is yet another hoax, shibboleth, and rabbit trail to get us to waste our energy and 'reformers' zeal' upon. It also provides a 'plausible pretext' to tax us and regulate us and etc.

    I'm not a far right-winger in favor of unrestricted despoilation of the biosphere by big corporations, so that is not where I'm coming from.

    But as I mentioned before in the general discussion thread, the earth appears to go through warmer and cooler cycles (so does Mars) that seem to be a function of solar flare activity. There are other data now that bring into question the whole anthropogenic global warming 'threat'.

    Global warming has become a sort of 'sacred cow' to many reformer/dissidents, especially those who lean towards the left; it does amaze me that rather than checking it out, thinking about it, people who are 'attached' and 'ego-involved' in this and other issues don't bother to check it out before rushing to defend their belief system.

    At one point, I was totally taken in by the global warming – hoax – as I now believe it probably is.

    if you think about it for a moment, the REAL threats and problems, like nuclear power, and the central banking/funny money scam, and the 'cancer industry' and suppression of non-toxic, non-invasive treatment modalities for degenerative illnesses like cancer – just do not get very much press coverage. The very popularity of the global warming 'threat' and its extensive and ongoing coverage in the MSM, and that movie about it (An Inconvenient Truth) by insider Al Gore – all should be great big clues.

  • lam335 lam335

    Can the Secret Service tell you to shut up?
    By Judge Andrew P. Napolitano

    "…Last week, President Obama signed into law the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. This law permits Secret Service agents to designate any place they wish as a place where free speech, association and petition of the government are prohibited. And it permits the Secret Service to make these determinations based on the content of speech.

    Thus, federal agents whose work is to protect public officials and their friends may prohibit the speech and the gatherings of folks who disagree with those officials or permit the speech and the gatherings of those who would praise them, even though the First Amendment condemns content-based speech discrimination by the government.

    The new law also provides that anyone who gathers in a “restricted” area may be prosecuted. And because the statute does not require the government to prove intent, a person accidentally in a restricted area can be charged and prosecuted, as well….

    This abominable legislation enjoyed overwhelming support from both political parties in Congress because the establishment loves power, fears dissent and hates inconvenience, and it doesn’t give a damn about the Constitution

    Read more:

  • aigeezer aigeezer

    "Government Explained". Laugh 'til you cry. Cry 'til you laugh.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake 17 Mar 2012 20.16 JST very shallow
    Magnitude4.8 Date-Time
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 10:16:26 UTC
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 08:16:26 PM at epicenter
    • Location40.869°N, 145.077°E Depth 10.3 km (6.4 miles) RegionOFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
    Distances241 km (149 miles) SSE of Kushiro, Hokkaido, Japan
    275 km (170 miles) SE of Obihiro, Hokkaido, Japan
    306 km (190 miles) E of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
    740 km (459 miles) NE of TOKYO, Japan
    Location Uncertaintyhorizontal +/- 16.7 km (10.4 miles); depth +/- 4.2 km (2.6 miles)

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake close to Onagawa NPP, shallow.

    Magnitude 4.7 Date-Time
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 13:47:38 UTC
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 10:47:38 PM at epicenter
    Location 38.166°N, 141.525°E Depth56.4 km (35.0 miles)
    Distances57 km (35 miles) E of Sendai, Honshu, Japan
    103 km (64 miles) ENE of Fukushima, Honshu, Japan
    104 km (64 miles) E of Yamagata, Honshu, Japan
    318 km (197 miles) NNE of TOKYO, Japan
    Location Uncertaintyhorizontal +/- 23 km (14.3 miles); depth +/- 10.6 km (6.6 miles)

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Incredible result of geomagnetic storm:

    Aurora Sub-storm March 16, 2012

    Aurora March 16 2012 01:21MST

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Earthquake 17 Mar 2012 20:24 JST near Tokai NPP and JPARC


    Magnitude 4.5 Date-Time
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 11:24:43 UTC
    • Saturday, March 17, 2012 at 08:24:43 PM at epicenter
    Location36.847°N, 140.487°E Depth30.6 km (19.0 miles) RegionNEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
    Distances41 km (25 miles) WSW of Iwaki, Honshu, Japan
    53 km (32 miles) N of Mito, Honshu, Japan
    61 km (37 miles) S of Koriyama, Honshu, Japan
    145 km (90 miles) NNE of TOKYO, Japan
    Location Uncertaintyhorizontal +/- 17.5 km (10.9 miles); depth +/- 9.6 km (6.0 miles)

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Why Did The DHS Just Order 450 Million Rounds of .40 Caliber Amm

    • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

      Interesting and ominous.
      Only police and some civilians use .40 cal stuff. Not a round for normal warfare, whatever normal warfare is. Close to 1/2 billion rounds is a shitload of bullets.
      Dept. of Homeland Suppression is gettin ready.
      My fellow Americans….either lock and load, duck and cover or run and hide.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Darn..just when I bought a bat… to take to the knees of the Big Dog Human Hunting doesn't seem like that's gonna work…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose forgot one..fight to the death…or take oneself out before capture…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose