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  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    for all those who love a good conspiracy, you can't get more kooked-out than this…

    Japanese Government Official Confirms Partial Recovery Of Crashed UFO

    http://inothernewz.com/japanese-government-official-confirms-partial-recovery-of-crashed-ufo/

    Lead-in analysis via VT:

    UFO Blamed For Millions Of Dead Fish Off Okinawa

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/17/ufo-blamed-for-millions-of-dead-fish-off-okinawa/


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      Wow, AFTERSHOCK. They'll say anything, anything at all… but why? What's in it for them?… Maybe it's just the National Enquirer model – say anything to get readership.

      I see they lifted the ship photo from here:

      http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/shirane-class-helicopter-destroyers-japan/shirane-class-helicopter-destroyers-japan4.html

      It's bizarre that people think they can pull this stuff off in the Internet age, but there's one born every minute.


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      • aigeezer aigeezer

        Yikes, AFTERSHOCK. I hadn't read the VT spin yet when I posted my comment wondering why they do such things.

        Now I'm guessing the motivation is to create a FUD story to explain any marine fish/animal deaths around Japan and deflect attention from Fukushima.

        Pathetic, if that's what's going on.


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          an obvious dis-info campaign, aigeezer. You have to get good at picking the corn out of the VT excrement. You'll notice from the responses, some get miffed if you don't go along with the game. Aside from the tawdry manipulation, it's fun and worth monitoring.

          Glad you enjoyed it!


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      • or-well

        aigeezer, all, "inothernewz" admits they make it up.
        Read their "ABOUT US" section -
        "Oh, and don't believe anything on this site. It's all spurious, ok?"


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        • or-well

          Also from In The Newz "About Us" section -
          "We always strive to bring our loyal readers the very best in pseudo-journalism."


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          • aigeezer aigeezer

            Thanks or-well. Interesting! Is it fair to say that "inothernewz" (and similar TFH sites) plant the stories with that kind of disclaimer, relying on other gullible or agenda-driven sources to pass them on as genuine?

            If so, that's a rather slick mechanism, as it can take a lot of work to trace nonsense back to its source – far more work than is involved in pumping it out.

            Will you indulge me by reading a little Orwellian scenario I've been thinking about?… Imagine a Ministry of Truth office a few years from now, with a battalion of cyberclerks whose mission is to categorize all digital images: acceptable, mandatory, forbidden, "federal family eyes only" – that sort of thing.

            The enabling technology involves processing all images at the smallest ministry-approved canonical size, say the size of a cel phone screen, treating that as a bounded array of (say) 200*200 pixels, treating the array as a huge but finite binary number, then looking at all possible values that number could take – 100 monkeys, 21st century style.

            "Is this image a state secret or a field of cucumbers, O'Brien?"… "Could be either, Winston. When in doubt, mark it forbidden – no person shall be allowed to view that number in future".

            It's doable, believe it or not: non-deterministic (massively parallel) computers in polynomial time, with a little front-end processing so the agents don't have to look at snow screens.


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            • or-well

              aigeezer, headspinning!
              Third paragraph – got it…
              Fourth para – 100th monkee effect? or enough monkees and typewriters yields Shakespeare eventually?
              I'm struggling!
              Or maybe I just think I am.
              All digital images, homogenized, to be categorized.
              How does Winston decide which category?
              Oh oh.
              There's an opening for subjectivity.
              If the cucumber ration has been reduced, the image is forbidden.
              If it's been increased, lettuce fields may also be viewable, but only if defined as cucumber fields.
              And only if the lettuce ration is not reduced.

              Or, agricultural images to be forbidden entirely.

              Total control of images. All that we see is whats immediately viewable with our eyes, or the images that are approved.
              Then…what would our visual perceptual processing do with something we had never seen before, like a field of cucumber plants? Or an very old person. Or the Sun in a blue sky?

              ???


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              • aigeezer aigeezer

                Thanks or-well, yes, delightful dilemmas, at least while it's still fiction.

                In practice, I imagine bureaucrats would always apply the totalitarian principle (not the physics version) to be on the safe side and "not get in trouble".

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarian_principle

                Paragraph 4, sorry for the ambiguity – "Shakespeare eventually".

                Re the "seen before" issue (great choices in your cautionary list examples), you probably remember how Plato's cave allegory handled that challenge. Tough stuff – I like this modern version:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2afuTvUzBQ

                The combinatoric issues for such things (viewing every picture) used to make them laughably out of reach. Now they are here for all practical purposes, but most people don't realize it yet.

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_computing

                Big brother has a huge head start on all of us – who knew? Besides Orwell, I mean. He got it so right, way back then, but I thought it was just another sci-fi book at the time.


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                • or-well

                  aigeezer, considering all possible interpretations that could be made of certain images would lead, I think, in your scenario, to most images being restricted, just as in 1984 "Newspeak" was being worked on to render language as essentially useless, from our perspective.

                  I saw the 1956 version of 1984 (Edmund OBrien) quite young and it never left me for some reason. Read the book enough years later that I said "Yup, lookout."

                  Here we are. Here we go. I think the headstart you speak of is settling, in various ways, into general awareness, or sub-awareness or something, and is acting as fertilizer, for various things, including investigation into matters conspiratorial.
                  (Altho we didn't need Orwell to consider conspiracies, that's something history shows "we" have done well for a long time.)
                  Anyway, I think G. Orwell deserves our thanks for the warning.
                  ps. I had to look up Platos'Cave allegory.(!)


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    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      UFO..ummm..
      Perhaps it was an M-22 Osprey

      U.S. Sends Aircraft to Okinawa, Despite Fierce Opposition

      http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/world/asia/united-states-military-sends-ospreys-to-okinawa-despite-fierce-opposition.html


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS.Stealth has arrived..
    US moves stealth fighters to Okinawa base

    http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_01_14/US-moves-stealth-fighters-to-Okinawa-base/

    Is Okinawa really far enough from Fukushima..to be out of range of contamination?..and the air space in which the pilots will be flying?


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Those that are interested in alien contact…must take care not to become fodder..for the false flag alien attack…the dream of TPTB.
    Facts..or lack of.. alien contact need to be searched for carefully.

    PS. LOL..after all they may not be green aliens in space pods..at all.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      have no doubt Heart, they'll run an operation just to discredit what they can't publicly acknowledge. These 'people' are good. Factor in the public's lack of expectations from those in 'control' and you'll have a small inkling to why this game's being played…


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      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        Yes..AFTERSHOCK..this reeks of operation.


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          but I must confess Heart…I love train wrecks!


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          • aigeezer aigeezer

            Hi AFTERSHOCK. There's a pro-nuke propaganda piece, oddly enough, that purports to show a nuke container withstanding a train crash:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3iRu71PGDA

            They don't mention what might happen to the container's contents, but they seem satisfied that the container did not rupture, at least in that test.

            Somehow, I'm not reassured much.


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            • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

              saw this years ago. At the time, they were fusing high-level waste with glass to produce inert 'ingots'. These were then encased within cement 'pills'. The pills were finally wrapped-up within a reusable rad-shielded casing; what you see in the video. They are highly survival and safe for open transportation. Upon reaching their destination, these pills were extracted from the transport casings and moved to repositories that would hold them for tens-of-thousands of years. Problem is, they discovered the cement casing weren't fully immune to environmental degradation; that the casing material itself would eventually become highly radioactive and ultimately pollute the surrounding medium. This was one reason they abandoned these efforts.

              With the advent of magnetic levitation systems, these same efforts to encase highly radioactive wastes could still be used to move this toxic material 'off world'…


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              • aigeezer aigeezer

                Thanks AFTERSHOCK. I didn't know most of that – I was vaguely aware of the idea of "vitrification" as a "solution" to the nuke waste issue and that's about it.

                I confess I wasn't paying much attention to nuke-world years ago. When TMI and Chernobyl happened, I swallowed the msm stories that it was all under control, so I can identify with the people who look blank now when Fukushima gets mentioned. I remember playing a TMI simulation game (Apple II, I think) and finding it extremely boring – watch dials, pull levers, nothing much happened (in the game).

                For me one big difference between "then" and "now" is being retired. Back in work-world, it was nose-to-grindstone almost every waking hour – completely-numbed-down to the outside world. No Internet then either, for practical purposes.

                Hats off to you for noticing that stuff "back in the day", and I hope there are millions in work-world now who are looking out at the world more than I did.


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                • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                  its what I do aigeezer. Used to spend a minimum of four hours a day, reading technical papers and journals. Got so immersed in arcana, I was incapable of holding a conversation with any but techies. I could double your stock value in a days time. I could tell you if something's viable or more pie-in-the-sky. Changed the destinies of those with the intelligence to listen. Also learned, most humans are content to live-out their lives in small rooms, with a TV as company. Now, I sit back and smile, as those on high are going to be sharing the grave with the rest of us. They think their status insulates them from the big picture. I could have taken them to the stars. When you study their pathological impulsiveness for any period of time, you quickly realize they're best confined to a little room. The light you give them, will only be used to guide themselves down-into hell…


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                  • aigeezer aigeezer

                    AFTERSHOCK, that's a very poignant post. Sounds like you've got Cassandra's blood in your veins: "When Cassandra of Troy refused Apollo, he placed a curse on her so that she and all her descendants' predictions would not be believed" – Wiki's version.

                    I greatly admire what you and a few other Enenews Irregulars did up-thread with that UFO story you found, namely find and post a Fukushima-relevant story, highlight its dubious veracity, investigate various sources, find clear incontrovertible evidence that it was false, and leave a clear trail for the world to see.

                    or-well's find from the source "about" page put the final stake into the beast's heart:

                    "Oh, and don't believe anything on this site. It's all spurious, ok?"

                    That's Enenews commenters at our best, I think.

                    http://enenews.com/forum-topic-discussion-thread-nuclear-issues-jan-5-2013-present/comment-page-5#comment-324434

                    There's still time for you to take us to the stars (I hope). I sense that you're not burned out – you followed up right away with that West Point gem – and so maybe Enenews is the right platform for stellar travel.

                    On the other hand, maybe this is destined to be just a noisy place where any diamonds routinely get thrown out with the trash. Cassandra would understand, either way. It's our collective choice as to what we do here.

                    Thanks!


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                    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                      glad to see you get it aigeezer. Notice how selective they are in pointing to supposed 'prophets', yet how quick they are to dismiss any from the ranks of the downtrodden? Equally fascinating is how the repressed will dismiss the insights from those who rise from their own ranks. It would appear the prisoners only trust their jailers! I'm doubled-over – in pain – from laughter! No longer does a sense of courage or preeminence course through the vein of the modern 'man'. They've allowed their masters to convince them, they're no better than barn animals. And being the ever compliant animals that they've become, they rarely fail to prove their masters wrong. And while I despise our masters for their reckless intransigence, I can understand they're as condemned by their success as the lowly are by their poverty. But you'd think those on high would realize – by now – wealth resides in what awaits them above; not just what lay hidden beneath their feet. Every moment delayed is but another, forever lost to our grasp. Eternity never abandons those with vision…


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    • Anthony Anthony

      I totally agree and that's wise advice. Its really been interesting for me to have gone from being interested but skeptical last year to having seen one for myself. I understand others skepticism; if you haven't seen one, you don't know yet. Nothing I have ever seen before with these eyes has affected me as this situation has. The thing I take most away from it is a sense of understanding humanity a little clearer. The idea there is something and somewhere that is grander than here was answered when I tried to grasp what I was seeing. I didn't know that I didn't know what I was looking at, at first. Those entities are beyond what I can understand still. But I don't question anymore their existence; because I cant. We have always had to watch out for the baloney in the ufo info mix!

      The other thing that arose from this experience for me is embracing it is not up to me to convince others. I'm not sure why exactly, but it is pointless to endure skeptics jabs at me. Nothing has changed in my constitution or character so why accept people putting what is actually incorrect junk on me when I know what I saw, despite their opinions! Its easier to leave others on their own path.

      If Earth is to become uninhabitable we better hope there is somewhere for our soul energy to live at, right?


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      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        cool thoughts Anthony. I have seen the big triangular ones, first-hand and close-up. From all the incoming reports, it's becoming obvious this 'model' is of terrestrial origin; whose true purpose is actively being withheld from the public.

        Some claim they're based on extraterrestrial technology, while others claim they're reverse engineered from wrecked units. Then there's the crowd who think there's a war going on between 'them' and 'us'. Recall one of the old Outer Limits stories (Martin Sheen's first appearance on TV) where aliens cooperated with the Earth's military and conspired to propagate a phoney war between them. I don't buy into such scenarios, as any society that's conquered deep-space travel would easily trump anything we'd have to respond with. Besides, they're likely to find many allies within the human ranks, who'd be only too happy to join the battle against the evil that's controlling the world, today. And if it were a genuine conflict, those in power would be soliciting our active support. It'd be a dream come true for the global military industrial police state. Procto-exams would be all the rage. Move over DHS. We're going full ahead with the Department of Global Security…or DoGS! Woof! Woof!!! Badges come with a shiny-new alien detection speculum…

        Regardless what's happening, when you get past the fact that we're purposely being kept in the dark, it's entertaining stuff…


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        • Anthony Anthony

          Wow aftershock, love to see one up close! I was surprised from the unconscious reaction it caused in me afterwards including forgetting immediately, remembering again, emotional reaction when I told my friends about it, it seems, one too many times and something in me snapped, I got frustrated thinking they thought I was crazy (which they didn't!) and once that snap kicked in I went through an immediate stage where I wondered if I had dreamed the entire thing. Really weird.

          A lingering benefit was the idea that we had somewhere else to go energetically than Earth. Fukushima promoted me to dig deeper than ever as to what is Life. Its been quite a reality check to see that the world is really set up to die, lifewise. Oil in the ocean (come on!) and Japan. I know there are so many who think the worrying is unwarranted, but I trust my gut on this one. I come to understand that Earth cannot possibly be *it* for our souls. It cant be. People in charge are making it uninhabitable. The entities themselves may be behind this actually. If the information on aliens that I think is potentially valid, then THEY want us back FROM EARTH. Energetically as ourselves, the energy we actually are which goes beyond the body. I think maybe if the reincarnation machine is overwhelmed, we will be able to move past being stuck here on a poisoned earth. I've made a pact with myself to try to break free of the cycle when I die. There has got to be a better place or planet


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          • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

            there are neurological effects from strong magnetic fields, Anthony. There's a lot of theory as to propulsion technology in use. Magnetic fields are but one component in the challenge. Even if there's a elite group of monkeys putting-around in our sphere of influence, it's 'miles' behind the required technology.

            No time to address the rest, except to say, Earth is considered by 'some' to be the place to be! Incessant violence and general inclination to elevate base behavior seems all the norm on this planet…I can't wait to go 'home'…


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    On a further note..this is a well worked article..supposedly from civilized nations.
    But there are places in the world..that when these beasts arrive..flying machines…they are considered UFO's.
    I feel sorry for the uneducated and and the innocent.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    If I were an alien, the LAST place I'd venture is Earth in 2013. Likely to get a pot shot from over eager fly boys from one nation or another, even before you land. Might get out the word "Take.." (As in, "Take me to your leader.") before somebody shoots you. Why would any civilized being from elsewhere in the Galaxy want to come to this uncivil place, anyway?


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  • VanneV anne

    They made up the story of a UFO to disguise that radiation from Fukushima (and other ractors?) is killing off everything in the ocean and elsewhere.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Planet Earth is getting pretty alien these days. :(
    No, :)
    No, :(
    So it goes…


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    For The Infrequent Flyers..Just came back from vacation..

    WARNING: Metal detectors are now replaced with Body Scanners, and I did not see any signs.

    I walked threw a body scanner with all the radiation bouncing back and forth, thinking it was a metal detector.

    They told me to go back in, and I did. Then I quickly walked out.
    They told me to go back in, and I did. Then I quickly again walked out.

    Fortunately they treated me well, they could see that I am from a different generation, and I was not understanding this new technology was totally in place.

    I was in there a total of 4 times going back and forth, thinking it was a metal detector. It finally dawned on me that it was a body scanner and I asked to be opt out. They called a lady over, she was very professional, and talked me through it.

    Going home I was prepared and I knew not to go in those machines.

    I got used to the smaller planes and the cramped seating's, I got used to just getting peanuts and a small drink with lots of ice. However, this is something I will never get used to. Flying isn't what it used to be and it's not enjoyable anymore.

    If you can, fly with the rich and famous in private jets. It's the way to go, you get a pass and don't have the screenings.
    I guess they are the only people who are safe. Remember though, most of these people are the ones who have hurt the environment beyond repair. So, who should we really trust?


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    • jec jec

      Wear a plastic RADTriage Badge to see if radiation is captured. Those scanners need to be tested as medical devices. Those 4 times could have provided you a significant amount of radiation. And since not tested/calibrated (at least its not POSTED on the machine that I can tell) you dont know what you get. There should be a sign posted telling the most recent test date and the amount of radiation a person will experience in one scan. AND provide it in writing to the passenger going thru the scan. Its telling when former TSA employees try and file legal actions against the TSA due to developing cancer…OPT out.


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      • DontForget

        Thanks WSP.

        Yes, Everyone who is concerned should OPT-OUT.

        This video on radiation from airport scanners should have gone viral:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS0UxXDNs4w

        Please share it.


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        • WindorSolarPlease

          Hi DontForget

          Thanks for the link..Interesting.

          Crap .. 4 times in a row, I was in there!!!!
          Radiation Body Scanner met Radiation Fukushima
          Wonder what that, will get me?


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      • WindorSolarPlease

        Hi Jec,

        I honestly thought it was a metal detector. If I had known it was a radiation body scanner, I would not have walked in it one time. Instead I walked in it 4 times!!! Hopefully they don't have the machine running all the time, but I did get what was bouncing back from the other screens that were preformed.

        Before I even got close to it, I should have been asked if I wanted to OPT-OUT. They really don't want to give you a choice. They just want to push the people threw.

        There are people who don't know they can OPT-OUT.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Those who fly private, don't get scanned or patted down.

      The people who build these scanners, who promote them saying they are safe, and the law makers can fly private and probably do.

      Private planes can use the same run ways and use the same air space. I saw a small aircraft fly by us. That's safe (Sarc).

      Also, airline workers, security people, and some others also get a free pass from those machines and pat downs.
      These people are always reliable and safe, even though they have had melt downs in flight.

      If there is going to be regulations to get on a plane in the air space, then "EVERYONE" should have to go threw it, even the law makers who hold high office.

      No special laws for "just the privilege".
      If I have to get screened in anyway, everyone should also.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      I believe someday, there won't be an OPT-OUT option.


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    • Anthony Anthony

      WindorSolarPlease I traveled to the south last fall and got bumped at my connection in Chicago and had to STAY OVERNIGHT AT AIRPORT FOR 11 HOURS! Needless to say, I had to go outside several times that night and must have been screened 8 or 9 times going one way on that trip. I never thought about that till reading your journey.

      Now I feel like a oops moment has happened in my life!

      I just have to accept letting someone feeling on me like they do OR just let strangers look at every 3d detail of my naked body.


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      • DontForget

        It boils down to do you want more radiation or not?


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        • Anthony Anthony

          Way you put it makes it simple! Thanks!


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          • WindorSolarPlease

            Anthony, they said these scans would never be shown and they have, they say it's not dangerous, yet it's still radiation, and we all know radiation even in low dosages has a risk.

            Looks like we will be glowing together. 4 times for me in a row, and 8 or 9 in the row for you. We both had an oops moment, partly to blame was they did not offer the other option that is available to all of us.

            Heck, they didn't even tell me I was walking into a body scanner. I found out after the fact.

            I agree with DontForget…It does boil down to if you want more radiation or not.


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            • DontForget

              Look at this!

              Today it's reported the TSA will remove the backscatter machines from airports.

              http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-18/naked-image-scanners-to-be-removed-from-u-s-airports.html

              They claim it's because of privacy issues (the manufacturer wasn't able to develop privacy software before a given deadline.)

              This sounds fishy to me.

              My personal opinion is this has something to do with radiation and cancer, because DHS is recently allowing the National Academy of Sciences to test the x-ray scanners.

              They'll still be using the millimeter wave scanners, which there is little research on.

              The little bit of research on millimeter wave scanners claim they rip human DNA.


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              • WindorSolarPlease

                Will they now rip out those new machines and put in a different type? Someone is making a good buck.

                BTW..IMPORTANT>>Not good to go in those scanners if you are a diabetic with a pump, the pump can malfunction.

                Dangerous game to just point where to go, not explaining verbally that where they are pointing to is a body scan.

                They should tell people verbally that they can go into a body scanner or that they can chose a pat down.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Then there's the economy and the job market…

    Thousands apply for just 200 retail jobs in New Mexico

    http://rt.com/usa/news/thousands-new-mexico-target-993/


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi Heart of the Rose

      Try getting a job when you haven't worked in ages, and at a certain older age.
      They don't consider you as aged fine wine with flavor.

      Jobs aren't easy to get, appreciate that you are one of the few that are working, even if you don't like it.

      I agree with you, I don't see the economy or the job market getting better.


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @Heart

      I heard over the news that 750,000 Floridians were seeking employment with only 55,000 jobs being offered. No mention was made that Florida has populations in the millions now. And the State didn't count those who no longer seek work because they can't afford to look. Just as the Feds don't count food and gasoline in their inflation statistics. What a joke. I wonder what inflation really is taking into account those items and all the QE's Bernanke is doing now.

      Another statistic to consider, the Department of Agriculture said that 47,102,780 individuals are on food stamps in the U.S.! (Solari.com) To read without paying, you must go to The Daily Bell article and click on Solari.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Snowpocalypse Now: Whole of Russia covered in snow (PHOTOS)
    Jan 18 2013

    http://rt.com/news/winter-snow-russia-weather-275/


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      OMGosh Heart of the Rose..Noooo Thank you!!!! Don't want that..Was bad enough to hear that our pipes burst while on vacation.

      Wonder if anyone is checking that snow for radiation?


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    • richard richard

      While Oz bakes ..

      'Sydney sizzles in record heat'

      The heatwave stranded thousands of commuters, with dozens of trains delayed as steel wires buckled and a hose used to run a key signalling system melted. On the central coast, the heat caused an overhead wire to buckle onto a train at about 1.30pm, trapping about 250 passengers for half an hour.

      The monorail ground to a halt, spitting sparks that started a soon-extinguished grass fire next to Darling Harbour.

      More serious fires raged across NSW and Victoria, including about a dozen blazes that burned out of control in coastal regions of NSW from the Hunter Valley to the south coast.

      http://www.smh.com.au/data-point/city-sizzles-in-record-heat-20130118-2cyrj.html


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    • Maggie123

      The contrast between Russia's snow and Australia's fire(s) sure makes clear how vulnerable we are – my thoughts are with everyone. As a farming person I've always lived with weather as a key factor. Wonder about floods in Russia when that stuff melts; seems past time for Australia to get a break; wonder – where's the snow that my region needs if it's even to hold its category of drought without reaching the next level, (we're 2nd from top at 'extreme'; top is "exceptional").


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Former New Orleans mayor indicted on federal corruption charges
    By Michael Martinez, CNN
    updated 2:58 PM EST, Fri January 18, 2013
    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    Nagin is accused of bribery, money laundering, fraud and filing false tax returns
    A 25-page federal indictment alleges he gave "no bid" work to a city contractor
    That city contractor allegedly gave "concealed and direct campaign monies" to Nagin
    Nagin was the voice of a devastated New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina in 2005
    (CNN) — Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, who captured the drama of Hurricane Katrina in 2005 with an "SOS" call to the nation, was indicted Friday on 21 federal corruption charges, including bribery, money laundering, fraud and filing false tax returns.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/18/justice/louisiana-former-mayor-indicted/index.html?hpt=hp_t1


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  • Anthony Anthony

    European Space Agency Discovers 'Striking' Ancient River on Mars
    The river is nearly 1,000 miles long and almost 1,000 feet deep at points

    By JASON KOEBLER
    January 18, 2013

    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/18/european-space-agency-discovers-striking-ancient-river-on-mars


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  • PLEASE WATCH THIS … It will turn you world upside-down.

    Sandy Hook incident "staged". Video proof from "official" news broadcasts. Video Evidence is UNDENIABLE.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKDT7XwgMMo


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  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    a worthy read…

    Delusions of the radical left: Prohibition . . . will somehow work for guns

    http://www.naturalnews.com/038708_gun_prohibition_economics_cause_and_effect.html


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  • Dogleg Dogleg

    Nation wide rally in support of 2nd ammendment. Tomorrow at all 50 state capitals @ noon local time. Please show up and send a loud and clear message to the king.


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  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    it's so obvious the United States government is now under the exclusive control of the globalist. The following article reveals how they plan on painting anyone who challenges their agenda as being an 'extremist'.

    Those who think they'll remain safe by parroting the jingoism of the 'Progressive' Left, are just as likely to find themselves sharing a plank-bunk with their 'Right-wing' comrades. Like they once classified animal rights activists as being potential terrorists, they'll expand the definition of 'Right-wing Extremist' to include anyone who challenges the 'program'.

    This policy is being promulgated throughout the ranks of military policy makers. It should come as no surprise that those of us who cherish the freedoms afforded under the U.S. Bill of Rights and Constitution are now considered a danger to the security of the 'machine'. We'd all be well advised to…WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! Decide where you stand now or forever find yourself on the wrong side of history…

    West Point center cites dangers of ‘far right’ in U.S.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/


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    • Dogleg Dogleg

      Much like the MIAC report. Thank you for posting Aftershock. We can see what they are up to. We allowed them extra powers to fight terrorism and now that they have these unconstitunal powers they are turning them inward towards US. They are changing the definition of terrorist and expanding the war on terror. We were warned over 200 years ago. Our founders had great vision and wisdom. I fear civil war is near. I read yesterday that in the last 2 months U.S. citizens have bought enough guns and ammo to arm the Chineese and Indian armies combined. I am sure you are aware that the department of Homeland Security recently bought 1.6 billion rounds of hollow point rounds. God help us all


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @Aftershock

      I read the West Point article and concluded much to my surprise that they would probably consider me as a conservative anti-federalist! LOL


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      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        that is precisely my point, NoPrevarication. This has nothing to do with protecting the people. It's about building the ideological framework for hanging any who challenge the sanctity of the globalist agenda.

        It really doesn't get much more hypocritical than criminalizing those who desire a return to law! This is precisely what they did under the Stalinist. And not unlike what happened there, it wasn't just 'White Shirts' who happened to find themselves being thrown against the wall. By the time the NKVD got into full swing, they declared any who questioned the validity of the party's actions, to be enemies ('revisionists') of the state. They continued what became known as "purges", eventually resulting in their population being terrorized into abject submission.

        If you watch how MSM is attempting to stigmatize any who support the law as defined within the Bill of Rights 2nd amendment, you can't help but realize there's no end to who they won't target. Getting military on-board is essential to that goal.

        Regardless of ones perceived politics, we all need to wake-up to what's being planned. My politics are premised on the application of equal protection under the law for – all – human beings and the protection of our environment. You cannot be selective in how you apply such idealism. You have to be ready to defend even those you disagree with! Anything less guarantees the ultimate enslavement of all life on this planet…


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    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      "Right Wing Extremist"..hummff..
      I am not a member of the NRA..but I do take gun safety/shooting classes from them from time to time.
      So..when this first started..I said a thing or to among those shooting that day.
      There I was some..ding bat…telling them..that they too could someday be considered enemies of the government..while dutifully defending the Constitution.
      I'm looking forward to going shooting with the same set soon..


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    • razzz razzz

      Unlike Chernobyl where the melted core was free to travel the building's floor with its own powered lava like flow, Fukushima's melted cores encountered water. If not last resort saltwater being sprayed on them then groundwater. I've seen more steam than fires with these melted cores so groundwater must be cooling them more than you think.

      I am not sure there is enough boron in the world to keep the melt from fissioning on its own but if the melts do encounter fresh or even saltwater without boron to absorb the neutrons then a uncontrolled chain reaction explosion will confirm underground traveling melted cores.


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      • PattieB PattieB

        That's a misconseption. There is water in the ground, but it's in sand and clay. This make a poor reflector for nutrons. You would need a good reflector to get a criticality event started.
        The water on top of the creeping corium "Hole" makes an effective plug.
        As long as it can burn deeper, no criticality happens.
        Bring it to a stop in decent? It would make a cavern even in clay, that would then fill with water… BANG!
        OR, let it hit bedrock… That's a Realy GOOD reflector! BOOM!
        But even during the decent, the corium is making steam like mad! That has to then escape the earth… so makes cracks! Add some tremors… shake well… you have the steam events like fukushima has on a regular basis!


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        • PattieB PattieB

          See my photos… I did a study on the ground under fuku… it's layers, and such are a separated pic.


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        • FREEDOMROX

          Actually, bedrock absorbs much of the reaction, but does reflect the radioactivity into adjacent sedimentary layers. It won't show up immediatedly, but will will show up eventually, as in the case of Cherobyl.

          Reflectivity is a surface condition, and believe it or not, most times depends upon the number of mud puddles above ground, than on sub-surface conditions.

          Our planet is reflective in so many ways, and in so many conditions, and you would have to obtain knowledge of meteorlogical, to Ionic atmospheric conditions, cloud reflections, (ground or space invaded), as well as temperature, wind velocity, and accumulation patterns.

          It is not an easy task to compile even one day's data to make a presumptive conclusion. Plasma Physics explains this strange phenomena in detail, and mitigates much of what is postulated here. This is not minimize anyone's immediate concerns at all, but on a larger scale…this is a small event in history.

          More radioactive materials were present in 1963, all over the earth per capita, than are present now.

          You are a mutant baby, if born at that time. Star Children.


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        • Anthony Anthony

          That is exactly biologically as I see it and thanks for the nuclear lesson likewise. 3000 2000 1000 degrees whichever, the steam and heat generated all through that ground must be massive.` 24-7-365 x 2. I think that also makes the perfect radiation dispenser machine, three of them.


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          • PattieB PattieB

            #1 had the easiest egress from containment, but it's the smallest corium… and ONLY made of Urainium & byproducts. Likely hood of undergound Bang? 20%

            #2 Is no longer a known quantity. The swapping-out of #4 pools vid survey for #2's? Showed that #2 pool had some non-standard rods in it. Are there any in the core? The sheet says no, but then it said #4 reactor was empty as well!The way it broke… may mean we don't have a single "Glob" of corium, but a multitude of smaller segments boring into the earth on that front. A Bang is 10% at most possibility.

            #3 Well!… when that one left it did it with a BANG! I'm not talking about the mushroom cloud event, but the event that came after it. Like a shotgun, it may well have fractured the underlying concreate. Got a head-start on eatting its way out. The contents of THAT corium, I know! I got the core rods and ages printout! That gets slowed to much, or hits bedrock that acts well as a reflector!? It's 100% probability to go critical… BANG! The problem is depth, and it's not as deep as our underground tests were done. That means kiss everything on surface goodby! The core of #4 reactor and it's cask pool… is in our air now. Also is the majority of #3 pools nasty mix.
            Add in the steam from the ground that's radioactive… Fogs of the hidden war on human existance.


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  • TepcoSievert TepcoSievert

    Over the past few days, a strange concentration of seismic activity seems to be going on in the Tokyo area. See the live map at
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nied4maps-test


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  • NoNukes NoNukes

    I have noticed for a while that it is largely the "female" anti-nuke names that get "hounded" on this website, with packs on their heels, nipping and badgering, like they did PattieB, Anne, StillJill, Whoopie, Heart of the Rose, etc., etc. I just can't remember the hounding of anti-nuke "males" by an equal percentage.

    Is it just simple sexism even on the internet, where you don't even know anyone's "real" gender or sex? Is it easier in our culture to paint a "woman" as crazy, even if she may not actually be one?

    Is it because there are fewer "women" than "men" here, so the nuke employees believe that the "females" are easier to pick off?"

    Or are "female" voices actually powerful for some reason, threatening, maybe the nuclear industry especially wants to silence women?

    What do you all think?


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    • eatliesndie eatliesndie

      I thought Whoopie was male….Pretty easy for anyone to get hassled around here. To me, most here are women or maybe I just hear them more than the males due to…. I was raised by a woman so I suppose now I relate more to the fem perspective and have trouble taking the guys seriously. There is much gender stuff I miss due to not looking, though now I think about it I'm more inclined to take a fem seriously, due to my first hand knowledge of the male ego…..oops…. so yes, I think the fem voice is more powerful and strikes deeper.


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    • michellemamarn

      Perhaps it's because "the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world" and they know we mothers are waking up to the devastation caused by immeasurable greed and corruption in the world today. I was never terribly vocal here, mainly consider myself a student of energy issues; but have followed since Day one- 3/11. However, I chose to walk away from chatting after listening to excessive bullying by the likes of Richard- I mean Kez- I mean Richard… and a few others. I choose not to return until admin. decides to actually moderate. I still value the collective wisdom of many, many here, and my online silence does not reflect my extremely vocal efforts to educate and inform in my little corner of the world. Enenews is still the very best place I've found to educate myself.


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      • or-well

        michellemamarn, I don't think Admin will effectively moderate against personal attacks. I don't think he/she/they have time.
        I do remember you, not for any specific comments, but positively.
        Do well.


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        • NoNukes NoNukes

          Dear Admin,

          Congratulations on creating a website that, as michellemamarn states, is "the very best place" for education on energy issues like Fukushima and the sinkhole. You have done so much to shine the light on central issues that have been buried by other forms of media. I understand that you came to this with full-time work and a family, which makes it all the more impressive, and leaves no time to police the comments.

          As we come up on the 2nd birthday/anniversary, the third year of Enenews, I beg you to please hire someone to enforce rule number 4. Please put it on oDesk, etc., or hire a high school/college student, they are on their phones all day anyway!

          I believe Sickputer posted that there are 30,000 views a day here? There must be enough advertising dollars to pay someone $10-15/hour to enforce the rules? If not, maybe put up another ad, I think that most of us would be happy to have more in exchange for enforcement of the rules.

          It is just the wild west down in the comments, were have no power to enforce the rules, and we can't circle the wagons every 5 minutes. There are a lot of us who have put a lot of labor into helping to build this website, sleepless nights, forfeited weekends and workdays, and we need someone who can enforce the rules so we can move forward.

          16penny held a eulogy for rule number 4 the other day. Can we please resurrect it? I think that it would only make Enenews stronger, more popular and effective…


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      • NoNukes NoNukes

        Thanks, michellemamarn, for responding. I love that phrase, "the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world." I am sorry that we lost your voice because of the excessive bullying. I agree that Enenews is an amazing place for education!


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      • Anthony Anthony

        Glad you are here.


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    • richard richard

      hi NoNukes, it's a good question about possible sexism within the forums. I've wondered about it myself. As discrimination is one area I'm generally concerned about, I even keep an eye on my own 'complaints' etc for any
      -isms.

      I believe that I've not complained ever in relation to percieved sex. And as I noted on another post, one can never be sure of who we are dealing with, so it may take me a very long time of reading someone's writing style and wordisms being I'll even consider their gender.

      Also, for myself, I think I've only complained with relation to subject matter, not the writer (yes, I know I've crossed the line as an argument may progress, but I believe I start with simply the subject at hand).

      In the same breath, I know I'm not perfect, so I may have broken my own protocols somewhere, someone's bound to quote something ;)

      As for some characters that may have been challenged it was generally about content. Some was confusing, some dogmatic, some could be enthusiastic but prone to occassional error. I'm not pointing the blame at anyone for those styles. I'm just saying it as I see it.

      In short, I don't think the site has been sexist in it's challenges, content is what's important to get right.

      (disclaimer, I'm an amatuer .. I never wanted to get into nuclear science and news monitoring for survivals sake).


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    • or-well

      NoNukes, or anyone, a question – Was Whoopie hounded away? The idea shocks me. I was away, came back, then she was gone, but I remember many expressions of appreciation for her unflagging determination to "do battle" in the bloody arena of HuffPo's forums. I don't remember any attacks.
      I do remember noting a number of posters were absent.
      I know expressions of faith were more frequent then, but I don't recall Whoopie being involved in any disputes.
      I hope she's doing well.

      My impression has been that women outnumber men here, altho that impression changes from thread to thread, or switches back & forth over the course of time.

      Age may play a role in a lack of civility too – both ways – as some acquire more entrenched beliefs and others become more accepting of others beliefs. Younger ones may be more combative, or they may be less confident to engage, lacking experience.

      I don't think one should exclude the nature of claims being made from an evaluation of response.

      I've often noted a lack of precision and clarity of expression leading to misunderstandings, but that's no excuse for responses becoming combative.

      Questioning claims, offering counter claims and disagreement are fine, but bullying and personal attacks diminish the value of the whole site.

      As always, I reserve the right to revile pro-nukers any way I feel like doing.


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      • richard richard

        Reserved right noted and supported ;)

        I recall whoopie expressing being weary of the stresses on enenews blogging. So no, I don't believe she was ever 'hounded' away in any form. My perception, as it is.


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        • or-well

          Thanks richard, she was prolific. Weary doesn't surprise me.


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          you may recall, richard, there was also some serious melting-down by others, which prompted some being banned and others simply moving on. For the most part, these were good people and are missed by me. I advise people to look to their personal state of mind, when taking in this information…


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      • NoNukes NoNukes

        or-well,

        Whoopie was at the heart of Enenews from the very beginning, spreading her anti-nuclear news and thanks and compliments with a relentlessly positive bent. Then, she began to be hounded, in my opinion, with endless complaints about her use of capitals and the quality of her links. It was over and over, the criticizing of these ridiculous points. Very shortly thereafter, she stopped posting here. I saw a connection, but unlike michellemaman and PattieB, I am not sure she ever said why she left.

        I don't believe it actually had anything to do with her use of capitals or links, but that she was such a loved and powerful anti-nuclear voice. She had more experience with, as I think stock calls it, "troll-wrestling" that most of us, and my take was that if she was going to be hounded, she thought that she might as well do it over at Huffingtonpost where there was such a need. The complaints about the use of capitals was also directed at StillJill, and to me they were such obvious attacks on strong anti-nuclear voices.


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        • richard richard

          I don't recall issues with caps lock for these people. I know Whoopie's presence has also stopped at HP, I've watched a few nukes threads there and the last few have not shown the W.

          I recall someone (or two) questioning quality from time to time, but otherwise she was well treated, I thought.

          The person known as StillJill seemed to have opted out after the calamity that established the 'no religion' doctrine.

          I simply make these comments as I don't wish the history to be distorted. There was never a caps lock issue with those commentators; well, that was anything persistent. It simply doesn't ring a bell.


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        • or-well

          Hi NoNukes, yes, I remember, when I was just lurking, and how she would ask those here to join the fight @ HuffPo.
          If that's why she left, it's sad.
          Tacomagrooves' massive fonts were one thing, but simple upper case?
          I know some call it "shouting", Breach of Internet manners or whatever.
          Manners?
          What about kindly reminders?
          Yes, I'd rather read normal print, but give me capitals over personal attacks and insults anyday.
          If a few go upper case, so what?

          In print, we lack posture, facial expression, body movement, volume, tone, inflection, eye movement – so much that is part of personal communication. I've been told those things make up the greater %, much more than actual words.

          BTW stock calls it "troll-jousting" :)


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        • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder

          Hi everybody , NoNukes ;

          Whoopie's capability to be intelligent was also publicly questioned iirc . A "smear" campaign as it were . I wish i could remember the names to see if they are still around, but i was pretty new here , slowly changing from lurker to poster . Didden't know the personality's back then , so no names.. And i also think out of friendship or loyalty she followed the religious crowd to that other place where stilljill etc went , atleast then.
          I wish she came back , and i hope she is doing well. She had good energy…


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          • NoNukes NoNukes

            Yes, DisasterInterpretationDissorder! Thanks, you are right, it was more than just the "technical" issues.


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          • or-well

            Hi DID, I read Whoopie a couple of times at HuffPo and she was a 12 cylinder RollsRoyce finely tuned! A different persona.
            Folks have come & gone and that will continue. It is what it is.
            How many potential contributors have been intimidated or just plain turned off when considering the possibility of personal attack? I dunno.


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            • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder

              Hi or-well , you are right both about Whoopie's potential and the coming and going , but i (as a lurker) was under the impression she was a "veteran" here . The fact that we are talking about here after so long confirms this. The "bumblebee on amphetamines" as someone called her with warm sympathy when she was here . Still there where enough bad vibes for her to pull out + the loyalty i mentioned for the splitt group.


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              • or-well

                DID, I mentioned that about the different persona I saw Whoopie display at HuffPo, as it illustrates the danger or pitfalls of making assumptions about someone, based on what one sees on one website. It may be what someone wishes everyone to see.
                It may be the result of haste.
                It's part of what we confront trying to communicate here.
                Sorry for sounding patronizing. I know you know. I'm speaking to the unseen many, as well as the whole issue of contentiousness.


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                • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                  I think i will display different behaviour also depending on my environment , and no probs here , you did not sound patronizing to me or-well .
                  But thanks for worrying about it ;)


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                  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                    I miss Whoopie..she is a vibrant being..
                    I hope she is doing well..and giving them hell…where ever she is.
                    I work in real life in a male dominated profession.
                    I never feel 'sexism'..because I don't acknowledge it..and eventually I gain respect.
                    I don't think intellecct has a gender.

                    PS. What women 'bring to the table' is often ..themselves..their whole beings.
                    Why is it important?
                    Check it out the day… she doesn't walk through the door.


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                    • WindorSolarPlease

                      I miss reading the writings of Whoopie, Tacomagrooves, stilljill, drfox, and so many more.

                      People come and people go on sites for all different reasons. They may even come back under different names.
                      I wish them all well.


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              • aigeezer aigeezer

                Thanks for remembering that, DID. The post was mine – part of a discussion of kites as a power source:

                http://enenews.com/forum-alternative-energy/comment-page-1#comment-240954

                Like many, I miss Whoopie's presence and energy here.

                On a much more general note, I sense there are more sharks than usual in our Enenews waters of late.

                Anyone who is a shark knows who and what they are. Anyone who is a remora probably knows what they are also. Anyone who is a minnow probably is too small to attract any sharks (fresh water, I know, but it's an analogy).

                The remaining category might loosely be called "bait fish". If anyone here isn't sure whether they are being viewed as a possible bait fish, then… swim with care.

                Please forgive me for dangling these thoughts in my reply to you, DID – that's happenstance.

                My intent is to say to any and all – "trust, but verify" – everything that comes our way. Everything, regardless of source. Everything. Do your own thinking, Don't fall for gambits that offer unsupported opinions as facts. Think twice about invitations to diversions from energy issues such as religious or gender wars, even in OT threads such as this one.

                Back to the topic of absent friends… I haven't seen B&B here for a while. I hope she'll be back soon. She has an analytical mind.

                SHUT THEM ALL DOWN (nuke power plants, and of course nuke weapons. The loathsome Big Oil and Big Coal shortly thereafter).


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Thousands Of Dead Fish Wash Ashore In South Carolina, Twice In One Week
    The Huffington Post | By Cavan Sieczkowski
    Posted: 01/18/2013 10:55 am EST

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/18/thousands-of-dead-fish-wash-ashore-south-carolina_n_2502438.html?utm_hp_ref=green


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Toshiba Nuclear Reactor For Oil Sands To Be Operational By 2020: Reports
    The Huffington Post Canada | Posted: 01/18/2013 2:27 pm EST

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/01/18/toshiba-oil-sands-reactor_n_2505738.html?utm_hp_ref=green&ir=Green


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    • Anthony Anthony

      **
      Toshiba reportedly plans to build the main part of the reactor underground, in order to enhance safety, and the reactor will be built within an earthquake-resistant structure.

      Paul Carroll, program director at the anti-nuclear Ploughshares Fund, told The Raw Story that small reactors are not immune to accidents, but “the individual accident scenarios are probably orders of magnitude less.”**


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      • FREEDOMROX

        So, if I am reading this correctly….Toshiba, a company that cannot even make a laptop that will run Windows 7 efficiently, and causes numerous reboots even with Win Bista, and whose speakers blow out or wires flimsily break with their 'stereo' systems…will enhance 'Safety'?

        Shahhh, roight! Roger me now myate!

        Pullin me leg in such a way!


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      • VanneV anne

        When they are underground, they are harder to service when something goes wrong. And smaller reactors means you will be closer to one. And what about flooding? This is so scary, it is unbelievable. And Toshiba
        Supplied the reactor for Unit #3 at Fukushima Daiichi, and designed the architecture.
        Unit Type[24]
        Containment
        Start construction[25]
        First criticality[25]
        Commercial operation[25]
        Shutdown date Electric power[25]
        Reactor supplier[24]
        Architecture[7]
        Construction[7]
        Fuel
        Fukushima I – 3[4]
        BWR-4 Mark I December 28, 1970 September 6, 1974 March 27, 1976 April 19, 2012 784 MW Toshiba
        Toshiba Kajima LEU/MOX[9]

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_Nuclear_Power_Plant

        Toshiba is responsible for the biggest nuclear accident in the history of the world.


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        • Anthony Anthony

          Out of sight and mind. I wonder if Fuku hadn't been captured on film if the world would have even been told of it? Doubt it, considering the world hasn't been fully informed of their 14 other Nuclear Site issues either, have they?


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      • Sickputer

        Yes, the underground reactors. Quite a concept. Supposedly safer…until they blow up Then you have a mess in the ground you can't reach to cool. Kinda like Fukushima Units 1-3.

        OT:

        Question: Where can I find an inexpensive microwave oven for sale?

        Answer: I just got a great one really cheap! A cardboard box from Fukushima Daiichi.


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    • VanneV anne

      But wait a minute. Nuclear reactors are more responsible for climate warming than natural gas. This is the worst possible news.

      “While the news of nuclear reactors potentially dotting the oilsands landscape is already raising concerns among some environmentalists, the technology could actually prove greener than current methods. Oilsands producers typically use natural gas to power bitumen extraction, which contributes significantly to Canada’s carbon emissions.”
      http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/01/18/toshiba-oil-sands-reactor_n_2505738.html?utm_hp_ref=green&ir=Green


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      • PattieB PattieB

        But ANY reactor still need fuel… and the process to make the fuel MAKES MORE GREENHOUS GAS, and DAMAGE TO OZONE than every single other cause counted collectively on the PLANET! At Each facility!

        150 TONS worth PER BUILDING to refine the urainium to make the rods!

        The carbon foot-print in thermal BTU's of every reactor is listed. 1 weeks run time of a SINGLE reactor is more than every home and family therein make in an entire YEAR! COLLECTIVELY, EACH. Including their CARS!


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      • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

        Just say nuscale, a portable reactor for industry.. oh goody.


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    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      So, how much water is evaporated due to nuclear power plants, and spent fuel pools? Water is being mixed with toxins every day to blast apart the planet in fracking and salt mine injection driling. Crush the planet and ruin the water. Not as if humans need either one like industry needs profit. All hail the mighty Corporation.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Sandy Hook Smoking Gun Revealed: Factions of Government, Law Enforcement, and Mainstream Media Including Anderson Cooper Engaged in Treason Against the United States and it’s Citizens

    http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/19/sandy-hook-smoking-gun-revealed-factions-of-government-law-enforcement-and-mainstream-media-including-anderson-cooper-engaged-in-treason-against-the-united-states-and-its-citizens/


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS.I hate sensational headlines..but the debate rages on..and it probably should.


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  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    the effort being made by all of you, makes me proud to be a part of the enenews family. Regardless what the future brings, I'd be equally honored to share the heavens or an open grave with any of you. You people (and I mean all of you!) are what makes this planet worth saving!

    Gotta jump-out for now.

    Love to all of you…


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    A couple days late on this one.
    Jan.16 2013

    Day 1000 of the BP Oil Spill, Now What – Susan from Surfriders

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej957Mj9kag


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  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Case Dismissed! Texas Ends 15-Year Fight Against Cancer Doctor Burzynski
    January 19, 2013

    By Dr. Mercola

    After a grueling 15-year long battle, the Texas Medical Board has officially ended its crusade to revoke Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski's medical license in an effort to end his use of Antineoplastons, as well as his combination gene-targeted therapy for cancer.

    The Texas Medical Board’s case against him was dismissed1 on November 19, 2012, just in time for Thanksgiving. According to Dr. Burzynski’s attorney, Richard A. Jaffe, Esq:2

    “Early on, two medical board informal settlement panels found that the use of these combination drugs on the advanced cancer patients involved was within the standard of care.

    However, the Texas Medical Board refused to drop the case and instead filed a formal complaint3 against Dr. Burzynski alleging the same standard of care violations previously rejected by the board settlement panels.
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/19/cancer-doctor-burzynski.aspx?e_cid=20130119_DNL_art_1&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20130119

    Looks like you can watch the movie here:
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/11/burzynski-the-movie.aspx


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Dirty Energy Clip 8 – BP and the government were married. The Coast Guard was covering BP's butt.

    Jan.15 2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP4yGbi2fPs


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Dirty Energy clip 7 — BP is not paying to test the seafood; they are paying to advertise poison

    Jan.15 2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0LWAQIVPdM


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    One more….please see others listed.

    Dirty Energy clip 4 — "Our world is over." The EPA just let the government come in and destroy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvMrOFoDdVo


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS..It would be nice to have a fracking and a BP thread.


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Fractured Land: BC Fracking Documentary Stirs Canadian Energy Debate (VIDEO)
    The Huffington Post B.C. | By Zi-Ann Lum
    Posted: 01/18/2013 1:45 pm EST

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/01/18/fractured-land-bc-fracking-documentary_n_2501118.html


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Something is fishy in Pawleys Island (SC)
    Jan 15, 2013

    Thousands of dead fish washed up on Pawleys Island Tuesday

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMBy5DgT0Ys


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    • PattieB PattieB

      Well.. there's a load of pressurized solid-form methane under the oceans. It once even contributed to an almost complete die-off of all life on this planet.

      If it's started to be released again? This will become common sight.
      If so, it's an indicator of the die-off of under-deep-sea types of life that helped keep the layers from being released.

      It's the water edition of what happening to the great norther forests… as they root into perma-frost, a methane-rich medium. It's melting and killing the trees. Also, it's far worse on global warming than CO2 will ever be.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Here is our ranking..folks…we are 27,092 out of 30 million domains.

    And some other stuff too…

    http://www.webstatsdomain.com/domains/enenews.com/

    Thanks for fighting the good fight… all.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      not for nut'n Heart, that statistic puts enenews within a hair's breadth of being within the top ten-percent sites on the web! That standing says a lot about the enenews family…


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  • PattieB PattieB

    January 19, 2013 at 5:11 pm · Reply
    * FLASH* NEWS *FLASH*

    Radiologicals Have been released in PADUKA!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv6ywi_RNDk&feature=youtu.be


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  • Anthony Anthony

    **It's not easy to lie. Psychologists and neuroscientists have found that — initially, at least — deceit requires mental exertion for most of us. The effort to reconcile a lie with the truth — or with our notions of ourselves as good people — takes up so much brainpower that as we do it, we may actually forget to perform such effortless acts as blinking.

    To sustain a lie over years, and against mounting evidence of its untruth, liars large and small must "develop an infrastructure around it," Feldman said — a litany of justifications that makes it possible to cling to deception and convince ourselves that we are good people in spite of it.

    "But as time goes on, it gets easier," Feldman said.**

    http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-lying-20130119,0,697761.story


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Not a large amount of talk about BP..but I found this very interesting.

    Horrible Truth BP Oil Spill – Mainstream (ShameStream) Media is Complicit serving NWO Mafia Agenda
    Jan 11 2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etNZauMRy-k

    PS..I also recall Matt Simmons talking about a lack of 'O'rings.


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  • richard richard

    'DJ Trauma, a popular DJ in Florida, died suddenly in his sleep after experiencing flu symptoms.'

    http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=2098388530001

    r: that's a sad and swift attack of the flu. I wonder if he commuted by aircraft in the preceding two weeks?


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    I'm sure Grandparents can relate to this.
    Our Grandson had a cold, sore throat, ear infection.
    He was playing, acting like nothing bothered him.
    I thought this can't be too bad, if I get it.
    Wrong..
    When I woke up the next day after our trip I had the nasty bug.
    How can a sweet boy give his Grandma such a rotten cold?
    I am down for the count.
    I could blame it on my 4 trips into the body scan, but I won't.
    I still love my Grandson.
    I still miss him.
    I would get this bug all over again, just to be with him.


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  • PattieB PattieB

    My first set of file are ready for copying… 1 week only, then next set goes up!

    http://www.4shared.com/folder/E4sQOura/_online.html


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    Bobby Jindal's chief lawyer resigns after three months on the job

    CLICK>>http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/01/bobby_jindals_chief_lawyer_res.html


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    • FREEDOMROX

      GASP! Wonder why?

      Maybe because they have been waiting for the truth to come out!
      Then the rats jump ship quickly!

      Bobby Jindal knew of this informtion, so keep this in mind, while you read the following story:

      LOUISIANA SINKHOLE AND PROOF LDNR AND TEXAS BRINE KNEW OXY 3 COULD FAIL IN 2010

      http://freedomrox.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/louisiana-sinkhole-and-proof-ldnr-and-texas-brine-knew-oxy-3-could-fail-in-2010/

      Proof of a Coverup at the highest levels, and proof of Texas Brine and LDNR complicity and Conspiracy to deceive.


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      • FREEDOMROX

        Whom replaces Jindal's Chief Attorney? Thomas Enright.

        As for what ties the now former Cheif Attorney, Gary Graphia possessed?

        When he retired from the SHAW GROUP in May,

        Graphia was serving as executive vice president for corporate development, mergers, acquisitions and client relations. He also served as chief operating officer, executive vice president for corporate development and strategy, and chief legal officer and corporate secretary. Previously, Graphia was a partner at Kean, Miller, Hawthorne, D'Armond, McCowan & Jarman in Baton Rouge.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi FREEDOMROX

      The Governor is the chief executive officer of the state. The executive officer administers the programs and operations of state government, and therefore most directly serves the people. It provides direct services, and regulates activities such as hazardous waste disposal.

      Where's BJ Waldo? Is he serving the people or his State? How is he doing folks?

      CLICK>>http://louisiana.gov/Government/Executive_Branch/

      Where's the media on this?? MIA again?


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Here it is. This is the video where I was asked to keep the Democrat proposals for the NY SAFE Act away from the public. This list was given to me by a colleague and it is not confidential."

    https://www.facebook.com/SteveMcNY/posts/134119446748862


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    This is old news. However, the point is that it is 2013 and nothing has been done to correct this. Our Constitution Rights is turning into a joke.

    Obama Justifies FEMA Imprisonment Of US Civilians

    CLICK>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cUiQLRQGWA


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  • WindorSolarPlease

    This whole planet is creeping me out with Corporations wrecking our environment and all our politicians all over the world backing them up.

    We have the radiation spewing everywhere, methane bubbles, dead birds, dead fish and sea life, our water/air contaminated, and so on and so on.

    This should be everyone's wake up call, that there is a need for change.

    Protection of our environment, protection of the Country, protection of the people, and their rights.

    Is that asking too much?


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    • Anthony Anthony

      You are absolutely right.


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      • WindorSolarPlease

        Thank you Anthony. I just wish things would change for the better, but it looks like things are getting worse.

        You know things are bad when Christy is still complaining of nothing being done and then there's BJ Waldo not saying a word about what is going on at the sinkhole, and so on and so on..


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Thinking about the contrast of being told nothing or "it's all good" while senses and research realize, something wicked happened and something chronic is happening continually. It can't be stopped.
    But, it's all gonna be fine…

    "No problem in judgment and decision making is more prevalent and more potentially catastrophic than overconfidence".
    Plous (1993)

    The Evolution of Overconfidence
    http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0909/0909.4043.pdf


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    • Maggie123

      Jebus – Fascinating paper, many thanks! Made these notes as 'thoughts coming to mind' as I read so that I wouldn't forget them by time I got to end of paper. I don't often do a 'multi-post' with lots of quotes but with reference to the paper here are my thoughts:

      1- focus of model is getting control of a resource – conflict with someone also interested in the resource may be the situation. Confident assertion of one's 'claim' would seem to be an 'overconfident' manoeuvre?

      Earlier today I came across a historical document at wikisource, well-known to political scientists perhaps but new to me. It 'confidently' asserts US & Western 'rights' to resources, etc.: “Memo PPS23 by George Kennan” (Feb, 1948: Kennan, key state dept official, advises Post WW2 US foreign policy considerations for all global regions. Nine-12 pgs depending on font size – It must be read to catch context but one paragraph is:

      ".., we have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population. ..disparity ..particularly great ..between ourselves and the peoples of Asia. .. cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our ..task ..is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. To do so, ..dispense with all sentimentality and day-dreaming; ..attention will have to be concentrated ..on ..national objectives. We (cannot) afford luxury of altruism…" (cont..)


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      • Maggie123

        2-Kennan's paragraph brings up (and rejects) “altruism and world benefaction” as “luxuries”. Which relates to a 2nd thought that came to mind on scanning the paper on 'overconfidence': When, if ever, does “empathy” enter the picture? The authors of the overconfidence paper suggests limited possibilities re a resource of interest: Only 1 person wants it; or if 2 want it and there must be conflict and a win/lose conclusion. They do not consider cCooperation and/or sharing. (Does 'overconfidence in conflict' explain Kennan's state dept memo that the US “cannot afford to be altruistic”? (Kennan frets about “romantic notions” a few places – linking 'altruism' to something like 'idealistic romantic' thoughts.)

        The overconfidence researchers say they: “using standard assumptions about evolutionary dynamics under which the most fit are more likely to survive or reproduce”(p.4). Isn't this same as H. Spenser's 1857 significantly discredited social Darwinism? (http://library.thinkquest.org/C004367/eh4.shtml) ? (This on Spenser at link: “… elitist, "might makes right" .. views long before Darwin published …quickly adapted Darwinian ideas to his own ethical theories. …allowed him to claim that the rich and powerful ..better adapted to the social and economic climate … it was natural, normal, and proper for the strong to thrive at the expense of the weak. // … Not only was survival of the fittest natural, but it was also morally correct.” (cont …)


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        • Maggie123

          Are overconfidence researchers using unexamined underlying assumptions; how does that mar findings? … By time I get to Pg7 I'm thinking I need to stop and track down 'game theory' (browse for 'John Nash, game theory' – keep in mind Nash later volunteered he was paranoid schizophrenic during the time he was inspired to his theory – a theory Adam Curtis in his BBC 3-part docu “The Trap” (on YT) claims was powerfully significant during Cold War and later to Reagan/Thatcher “neoliberal” (trickle-down) economics.)

          The overconfidence paper needs more time than I can give it right now – skipped from pg. 7 to a 'conclusion' section! :)

          Prediction/conclusion:
          “We predict that — where the value of a prize sufficiently exceeds the costs of competing — overconfidence will be particularly prevalent in some very important domains that have inherently high levels of uncertainty, including: international relations …, rare or unpredictable phenomena (such as natural disasters and climate change), novel or complex technologies (such as the internet bubble and modern financial instruments), and new and untested leaders, allies, and enemies. Although overconfidence may have been adaptive in our past, and may still be adaptive in some settings today, it appears that we are likely to become overconfident in precisely the most dangerous of scenarios.” (pg 10)."

          (my thankfulness on next and final continued post!)


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          • Maggie123

            Thank goodness for a word of caution from the researchers!

            My admittedly biased thesis is that humanity is presently at the edge of extinction or darn close, and perhaps first time in recorded history – we *must* reduce egoic and/or restrictive tribalism practices – or nobody, anywhere, is assured a future except perhaps as part of a 're-set' and start over!

            Jebus – do you happen to know, is there an influential community 'out there' that's inclined to stick with "survival of fittest" as core 'truth' of humanity? If so, I can't see hope for much real change, and am not sure why we believe our 'consciousness' of any greater value than that of a backyard toad. I do really like toads, lizards, etc. … but after all! Aren't we supposed to have some 'meta-cognitive' capacity that surely has some purpose? :)


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            • Jebus Jebus

              My thoughts are that any human conflict, that has ever been, is a direct result of disparity. "I got mine, why should I care about you…"

              The baffling stupid greedy exploits of mankind will probably eventually ensure that "survival of fittest" as core 'truth' of humanity" falls true…

              Unless ALL of the "victims" affected by this greedy raping of the earth speak with one voice, the probabilities of the future, are not bright…


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              • Maggie123

                Thanks, Jebus. Part of my awareness agrees fully with you. Still I dig, trying to find 'paradigms' that can be brought to light, shown as incomplete or erroneous, and replaced with an emphasis on empathy and cooperation. It's the only thing we humans haven't really tried, IMO! I believe we carry a promise we can reach if we stop telling ourselves 'survival of most exploitative' is our only choice.

                I've been hearing background history on Mali and region. Today I heard about the 1884 Berlin Conference (Western powers effectively divided up Africa for exploitation): http://geography.about.com/cs/politicalgeog/a/berlinconferenc.htm.

                That somehow led me to the 1948 Kennen memo I've referenced above. (His advice – We must control global resources and can't be nice about it.) http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Memo_PPS23_by_George_Kennan

                Kennen also wrote an interesting 1947 St.Dept. report on Soviets: "It would be an exaggeration to say …American behavior unassisted and alone could exercise a power of life and death over the Communist movement and bring …early fall of Soviet power in Russia. But the (US) has it in its power to increase enormously the strains under which Soviet policy must operate" http://www.historyguide.org/europe/kennan.html.

                Since today my head already turned to Western & US control policy & Cold War, your link was a stunning fit. IMO same attitudes in US domestic policies – management trumps well-being. :(


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                • Maggie123

                  John Nash's "game theory" as I understand it really was key to Cold War and later to Reagan/Thatcher trickle down economics. Also as I understand it, game theory is all about assessing risk with intent to win in a win/lose situation. So that, too, dovetailed into the link you posted. By day's end I had a head full of inter-related theories, philosophies, and policies that are recognized as 'drivers' in 'things as they are'. (In only began to study political and econ history a few years ago and my work is pretty informal, casual. But it's pretty clear to me the 1% and true elite or corporatist types, in all nations, are really *not* committed to enhancing opportunities for 'lesser individuals' to blossom. They may think they are, but they simply are not. But they're not alone – We've had so many thousands years relying on hierarchical patterns that even family life in ordinary homes is not really committed to mutual benefits for all when "individuals flourish in healthy community". Just about everyone has been battered just enough, or feels at risk, so that it makes it hard for us, even within our local less powerful groups, to speak with one voice – or so it seems to me. All you've touched on is part of my passion so I've had lots to say – too huge a topic for more right now, but I really appreciate your link and reply — thanks so very much!!!


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            • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder

              Hi Maggie and Jebus , All , I don't know anything anymore but…

              Its funny the talk about conscience , overconfidence and toads ….take a look…at that post from march 2011 , and the poster above it was in
              response too…his avatar … :D

              Catastrophic overconfidence http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?267922-Japan-quakes&p=4781193#post4781193

              some argument following up…

              http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?267922-Japan-quakes&p=4781526&highlight=#post4781526

              Sorry for the late response , health and social life stuff problems .


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @Jebus

      "Thinking about the contrast of being told nothing or "it's all good" while senses and research realize, something wicked happened and something chronic is happening continually. It can't be stopped.
      But, it's all gonna be fine…"

      I know what you mean. I just watched a few minutes of the inauguration…nothing could be further from the truth.


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