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  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Once upon a time

    There once was a species
    They lived in their feces
    Belief in monies foisted by committees enlistees
    Bureaucracies treasuries emboldening trickeries
    Trinities trilogies unleashing papacies promisicuities
    Progenies sympathies causation for atrocities
    Frequencies singularities genocidal formalities
    Fuck offs and fuck youse just tribal regularities
    Chemistries chemicals enlisting abnormalities
    Fukushimas' and Chernobyls' arresting genealogies
    Realities say there will be no beneficiaries
    All that was left was their feces
    There once was a species

  • slandermen slandermen

    https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2018/10/03/a-classic-state-capitalist-how-donald-trump-profited-from-public-subsidies-political-favors-2/

    Neat. It links to a youtube video though. Which I haven't watched, but I mean I've read enough to kinda not need convincing about that.

  • Through words and deeds, Trump and his allies demean Americans

    “Last week, I wrote that President Trump’s critics were not suffering from ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome,’ that we were justifiably enraged.

    “I made the case that this administration and its allies, led by Trump, not only spew vile, disgusting rhetoric that stems from an ugly but very real strain of bigotry, but that they have sought to legislate — by law or by presidential decree — their hatred and discrimination.

    “This week, Trump and his supporters have proven me right several times over. They have proven that Trump’s America is, sadly, an aberration where people feel free not only to wear their racism, discrimination and bigotry on their sleeves but to act on it.

    “They have made the executive branch one that pushes changes to our laws and regulations that will keep people of color out of the country, take away their rights or delegitimize their voices….”

    https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/401301-through-words-and-deeds-trump-and-his-allies-demean-americans

  • slandermen slandermen

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/10/destroy-the-republican-party-max-boot-calls-for-a-clean-start/

    “A general danger of punditry is that there’s very little incentive to change your position or admit error.”

    Surprisingly, that also seems to apply to some other sort of pundits here.

  • slandermen slandermen

    " Facebook, whose vice president for global public policy Joel Kaplan supported Kavanaugh by appearing at Senate hearings in a section reserved for the candidate’s family and friends, is dealing with the fallout."

    https://gizmodo.com/some-facebook-employees-are-furious-their-vp-of-global-1829576549

    Well facebook is doing a great job, tremendous job, the best people. Real american jobs.

  • slandermen slandermen

    Well, since I don't like politics much and I've had quite enough thick swamp sludge and empty tainted water, neither particularly good or healthy, the wine suggests this is where alchemy comes into play.

    Or at least, me typing random shit. And then later, more random shit, which does not involve typing, but also includes typing.

    So, the magnetosphere (is that what you call it, you know that arbitrarily quantified, "scientifically" discretized part of the, matter and energy, electromagnetic spectrum). What's happening there right now?

    • slandermen slandermen

      "A well written and referenced review by Drs. Kennedy and Keaton, go into further detail in their April 2012 article titled, Evidence for the Topical Application of Castor Oil.[13] Here they refer to a study in which 17 patients with fatigue were enrolled in a trial and “during the course of treatment, the mean total lymphocyte counts normalised within the group and were lower at the end of treatment vs. baseline. As an unexpected outcome, 2 participants with elevated liver enzymes and cholesterol levels normalised these variables by the end of the study.” Bit of an NAFLD link here?"

      I mean I've used castor oil as a lotion in proton heavy days. It seemed fine.

  • slandermen slandermen

    See here is essentially corporate marketing quackery for profit labelled as science.

    https://phys.org/news/2018-10-common-herbicide-compound-millions.html

    Like, I could spend a while destroying that, but I really shouldn't need to, for pretty obvious reasons.

    • slandermen slandermen

      "A chemical compound found in common herbicides could help fight hospital-acquired human fungal pathogenic infections, which claim an estimated two million lives per year."

      Oh holy shit, I'm a bit slow, I just remembered that whenever I get a reply…I benefit from it. So, you can probably see what that just happened.

      • slandermen slandermen

        https://academic.oup.com/femsle/article/337/1/18/599950

        "Chlorimuron-ethyl, ethyl-2-[[[[(4-methoxy-6-chloro-pyrimidin-2-yl)amino]carbonyl]amino] sulfonyl]benzoate, is used as a pre- and postemergence herbicide for the control of important broadleaved weeds in soybean and maize. Due to its phytotoxicity to rotation crops, concerns regarding chlorimuron contamination of soil and water have been raised. Although it is degraded in the agricultural environment primarily via pH- and temperature-dependent chemical hydrolysis, microbial transformation also has an important role. Fungi such as Fusarium and Alternaria are unable to survive in artificial media containing chlorimuron-ethyl at 25 mg L−1. However, Aspergillus niger survived in minimal broth containing chlorimuron at 2 mg mL−1. Aspergillus niger degraded the herbicide to harvest energy through two major routes of degradation. "

        Instead of pesticides that are phytotoxic at the least and promote aspergillus niger (quite a common problem), and the numerous alternatives that DON'T involve drugs, pesticide manufacturing by say, DuPont in this case, I wonder if people have considered some plants and natural shit? There are some things that are effective against c.albicans and neoformans, just saying.

        I mean, just the other day, I posted a link about some amoeba or something that had 99.5% MRSA kill rate. And MRSA is supposedly one of those really difficult things to deal with, as a result of…well, antibiotics,…

        • slandermen slandermen

          https://www.goldbio.com/product/13390/chlorimuron-ethyl-sulfonylurea

          "Chlorimuron ethyl is a sulfonylurea organic compound used as an insulin enhancing compound and also for herbicide. Promotion of insulin release by chlorimuron ethyl occurs by inhibiting ATP-sensitive potassium channels, which depolarizes the cell membrane of β-islet pancreatic cells. Depolarization is followed by a large influx of calcium that signals the cell to exocytose insulin vesicles.

          Chlorimuron ethyl has also been used to induce plant death by inhibiting acetolactate synthase (ALS). The enzyme ALS synthesized branched chain amino acids, such as valine and leucine, which are integral to forming key enzymes in photosynthesis and aerobic respiration. Scarcity of these vital amino acids leads to reactive oxygen species generation and diminished DNA synthesis."

          Well that's pretty interesting…

          • slandermen slandermen

            The degradation of these herbicides and pesticides is also fairly unknown, to be perfectly honest.

            And I mean, these weeds seem to develop resistance to that stuff (like glyphosate and that chlorimoron shit too).

            Which then requires the application of more shit. These sort of things often aren't mentioned.

          • slandermen slandermen

            So this stuff doesn't look all that toxic )to humans), except, there are some problems.

            As a herbicide, it has some mutagenic and teratogenic (and obviously phytotoxic to plants) effects to some extent for some mammals and aquatic life, with large uncertainty about bioaccumulation in aquatic life. Considering the compound itself, the resulting degradation derivatives and effects are also fairly unknown.

            Also, interesting things happen with the ATP/potassium channel related, insulin stuff with glucose convolution. I could perhaps link it to cancer precursors such as diabetes, I don't actually know much about this stuff.

  • slandermen slandermen

    …drugs, pesticides, drugs, engineering and in general medical industry horseshit.

  • slandermen slandermen

    A Man Took Antibiotics Before Going to the Dentist. He Developed An Ultra-Rare Brain Side Effect

    " SAN FRANCISCO — As scary as it may sound, a root canal is a fairly routine dental procedure. But for one 60-year-old man, the procedure turned life threatening when he developed meningitis, a swelling of the tissue surrounding his brain and spinal cord. Even more surprising, though, was that this dangerous outcome wasn't due to some ghastly slip of the dentist's drill or a germ-coated dental instrument. Indeed, the procedure went off without a hitch.

    But several days after the procedure, the man arrived at an emergency room in New Jersey with a fever, headaches and neck pain. He informed doctors of his recent root canal and also mentioned that his dentist had instructed him to take amoxicillin — a common antibiotic — several days before the procedure."

    https://www.livescience.com/63772-root-canal-antibiotics-meningitis.html

    Well, from what I recall, root canals are generally not the most health promoting procedures available, with links to a few diseases including cancer. But I don't really know.

  • slandermen slandermen

    A new study led by an infectious disease epidemiologist at Tulane University School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine could change the way doctors treat a common sexually transmitted disease.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181007084044.htm

    Yeah, push more antibiotics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metronidazole

    Remember to give children multiple HPV vaccinations too. It has totally helped making sure everyone has HPV and some related (particularly for women) diseases.

  • slandermen slandermen

    Look HD, water filtering.

    Researchers have discovered a revolutionary and cheap way to make filters that can turn water contaminated with heavy metals into safe drinking water in a matter of minutes.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180925140522.htm

  • slandermen slandermen

    A new DNA tool created by Michigan State University can accurately predict people's height, and more importantly, could potentially assess their risk for serious illnesses, such as heart disease and cancer.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181004143856.htm

    More DNA data collection!!! ALL THE DNA.

  • slandermen slandermen

    China is investigating the missing head of Interpol for unspecified crimes

    https://qz.com/1416419/china-is-investigating-missing-interpol-head-meng-hongwei/

    That wouldn't be new, I remember a rather corrupt south african being head of interpol at one point. I was fucking shocked (at the time) to find out that interpol had such pathetic standards and considered it corrupt, invariably.

  • slandermen slandermen

    Utterly pointless, wasteful, ironical shit.

    https://qz.com/1416373/swiss-startup-climeworks-turns-carbon-dioxide-into-stone/

    "Tomorrow (Oct. 8), Climeworks will announce that it is scaling up its Iceland plant by a factor of 50, boosting its capacity to capture emissions from 50 metric tons a year to 2,500 metric tons. For context, the world currently emits nearly 40 billion metric tons annually. To partially fund the expansion, the startup will allow individuals to buy carbon offsets, with actual purchasing likely to begin early next year."

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left."
    Quote Attributed to Albert Einstein

  • slandermen slandermen

    I was recently informed by HD about some pretty insightful shit.

    He said he told the doctor "it hurts when I do that" and his doctor replied "then don't do that".

    So, I told my doctor "being alive hurts"… he recommended this, which I am surprisingly familiar with, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwEftDOobCw and also embracing null.

  • slandermen slandermen

    I don't even…

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/10/pro-kavanaugh-moms-sons-metoo/

    I mean, there's enough there for the left.

    But here's an axiomatic statistic:
    "Between 40 and 50 percent of gay and bisexual men report experiencing sexual violence other than rape."

    The problem is mainly the left rhetoric is fucking retarded.

  • slandermen slandermen

    Here's a nice example of ignorance by both republicans and democrats.

    In this example, we have ignorance about fundamentals related to compound effects.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/reagan-didnt-do-it/

    Well, I dunno, you fucking read this shit.

    http://www.socialstudieshelp.com/Eco_Deregulation.htm

    Of course, democrats would be loathe to admit that hillary clinton and binary sanders supported the OTC derivative and leveraging deregulations of the clinton administration resulting in significant inflationary effects related to your current debt.

    • slandermen slandermen

      As usual, that's me saying fuck you.

      • slandermen slandermen

        Now, the problem is, you fucking republicon and demonrat peons are too fucking dumb to even notice that shit. Those are pretty fucking obvious examples of compound effects leading to essentially exponential inflation.

        Guess what? From everything I've seen in the trump administration (hey, obama too), there are not only properties and results similar to the reagan but also the clinton administration, in fairly parallel terms, as an analogy.

        For instance, in the obama administration a number of measures allowing significantly more state capitalism and monetary inflation, but conversely, in the trump administration, significant deregulatory measures.

        Is it really so difficult to figure out that you're fucking uninformed polarized scum if you vote for or support your "selected", fundamentally kleptocratic, kakistocratic candidates?

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    watergate… a huge crime?

    "The term Watergate, by metonymy, has come to encompass an array of clandestine and often illegal activities undertaken by members of the Nixon administration. Those activities included such dirty tricks as bugging the offices of political opponents and people of whom Nixon or his officials were suspicious. Nixon and his close aides also ordered investigations of activist groups and political figures, using the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) as political weapons.[3][citation needed]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal

    Maybe Nixon was set up to destroy his career. Maybe corporations did not like the EPA he created.

    After all, all that other stuff like spying and wire tapping and breaking in was all rubber stamped by "The Patriot Act"

  • unincredulous unincredulous

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  • slandermen slandermen

    Nah, fuck that. I can't fucking comprehend how people can not only be so shit, but so fucking dumb while suggesting they're clever, pandering their poltical horseshit. I'm too stupid to associate with society's massive collective asshole, fuckoff.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    A quote from Russ George's page:

    A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. – Max Planck

    — So in a hundred years, when the plankton all die and stop making oxygen, everyone will be dead. What a great opportunity for study that will be.

    The cockroaches will read our literature one day and see the light

  • Ambiorix Ambiorix

    A two billion year old chunk of sea salt provides new evidence for the transformation of Earth's atmosphere into an oxygenated environment capable of supporting life as we know it.

    The team, which includes Cambridge Earth Sciences’ Dr Sasha Turchyn, found that the rise in oxygen that occurred about 2.3 billion years ago, known as the Great Oxidation Event, was much more substantial than previously indicated.

    "Instead of a trickle, it was more like a firehose," said Dr Clara Blättler, a postdoctoral research fellow in the Department of Geosciences at Princeton and first author on the study. "It was a major change in the production of oxygen."

    The evidence for the profound upswing in oxygen comes from crystalized salt rocks extracted from a 1.2-mile-deep hole in the region of Karelia in northwest Russia. These salt crystals were left behind when ancient seawater evaporated, and they give geologists unprecedented clues to the composition of the oceans and atmosphere on Earth more than 2 billion years ago.

    The key indication of the increase in oxygen production came from finding that the mineral deposits contained a surprisingly large amount of a component of seawater known as sulfate, which was created when sulfur reacted with oxygen.

    https://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/news/two-billion-year-old-salt-rock-reveals-rise-of-oxygen-in-ancient-atmosphere

  • Ambiorix Ambiorix

    (entire article)

    Drought-Laden Rainforests

    The world’s rainforests are under attack at a rate of 2.5 acres per second. Global warming and clear-cutting for growing palm oil and raising cattle are some of the biggest annihilators. The repercussions are devastating. For example, one of the consequences is harmful alteration of hydrological cycles for major grain-growing regions of the planet. But, that’s just the start of trouble.

    Disrupted hydrological cycles, which are only now being disclosed by new research, are one example amongst many of the aftereffects of stressed-out ecosystems as a result of (a) global warming, (b) turbo-charged climate change, and (c) the persistent human footprint. The awful truth is that ecosystems across the world are stressed-out like never before. But, nobody sees it.

    Uncommonly stressed-out ecosystems occur most prominently where nobody lives, nobody sees, Antarctica, Tibetan glaciers, the Arctic, Siberian permafrost, Colorado River Basin, Alaskan permafrost Andes’ glaciers, Patagonia, Totten glacier, East Siberian Arctic Sea, ocean plankton, the Amazon rainforest. Who lives anywhere near those hot spots of ecosystem disruption?

    Over time, the breakdowns turn more powerful, more dangerous, as a discordant world fails to come to grips with distinct risks of several tipping points simultaneously flaring up all at once. Such a horrific scenario could strike with the impact of a 7.5-mile-wide asteroid. The last time that happened 65…

    • Ambiorix Ambiorix

      The last time that happened 65 million years ago it was sayonara in a flash of geological time. If dinosaurs couldn’t handle it, well, as for Homo sapiens… hmm.

      As a suggestion, maybe a world conference on “Impending Ecosystem Collapses” should be held, similar to Paris 2015, but titled: How in the hell did we let this happen? With a sub-conference titled: No-holds-barred capitalism’s infinite growth syndrome clashes with ecological preservation. Or, how about: Would capitalism-lite be better? Or, how about: Starting all over again?

      Eliminating excessive amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere would be a good start, a big leap forward to curing a lot of ills, and should be combined with reforestation and an enforceable order to stop cutting down rainforests with reckless abandon. According to Global Forest Watch: “Deforestation in crucial tropical rainforests has doubled since 2008.” Much of it is illegal and linked to corruption.

      “A growing body of evidence indicates that the continuing destruction of tropical forests is disrupting the movement of water in the atmosphere, causing major shifts in precipitation that could lead to drought in key agricultural areas in China, India, and the U.S. Midwest.” (Source: Fred Pearce, Rivers in the Sky: How Deforestation Is Affecting Global Water Cycles, YaleEnvironment360, July 24, 2018)

      Not only is there a problem with the hydrology cycle, but also three 100-year droughts (the ones that are supposed to happen once every 100…

      • Ambiorix Ambiorix

        (the ones that are supposed to happen once every 100 years!) hit the Amazon Rainforest like clockwork 2005-2010-2015 over the past 10 years. That’s unprecedented. As far as science knows, it has never happened before! It’s kinda like an out-of-body experience, hovering over blackened tree stumps as far as the eye can see.

        Three droughts within a decade should take your breath away. If it doesn’t, it’s because of a failure to tune in to the overbearing Great Acceleration, aka: human footprint, overrunning planetary resources. Therefore, a key determinate for society’s longevity will be whether ecosystems, such as the rainforests, hang in there without cascading into irretrievable impracticable no-go oblivion.

        Subsequent to the 2005 Amazon rainforest drought: ‘The biggest surprise for us was that the effects appeared to persist for years after the drought,’ said co-author Professor Yadvinder Malhi from the University of Oxford. ‘We had expected the forest canopy to bounce back after a year with a new flush of leaf growth, but the damage appeared to persist right up to the subsequent drought in 2010.” (Source: Malhi, et al, Effects of Drought in the Amazon Persist Years Later, Oxford University, 2018)

        Another big problem: One season of drought can reduce the CO2 absorption ability of the Amazon for years to come. But, three back-to-back-to back droughts! Whew – triple ouch! Over time, it becomes impossible for the world’s great rainforests to combat global warming…

        • Ambiorix Ambiorix

          Instead of serving as a “sink of CO2,” the forests “emit CO2,” happening now. Try that one on for size Mister Runaway Global Warming. Hmm- fits like a glove.

          According to a study by NASA, the Amazon drought, over a three-year span, lost 270M metric tons of carbon per year. It’s not supposed to work that way folks. Part of the problem is global warming itself. A warming atmosphere shifts moisture away from the rainforest, which is the wrong direction!

          Also, droughts self-perpetuate additional drought conditions, as a considerable portion of the rain that falls in a rainforest comes from water vapor that the trees release through their own leaves. But, dying leaves don’t release much water vapor, which shrinks the hydrological flow variability.

          A recent study “Amazon Outlook —Continued Warming, Multiyear Droughts,” Water Resources Research, a journal of the American Geophysical Union, July 10, 2018 says: “Our work suggests that there is a possibility for even longer droughts, perhaps lasting multiple seasons or years, setting the stage for fires that could clear swaths of the rainforest.”

          Scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory found that after the 2005 drought the most affected parts of the Amazon Rainforest lost 35 inches rainfall in years following. (Source: Yan Yang, et al, Post-Drought Decline of the Amazon Carbon Sink, Nature, 2018)

          As it happens, ongoing destruction of rainforests represents one of the major impacts of the Great Acceleration or the…

          • Ambiorix Ambiorix

            of the Great Acceleration or the human footprint eclipsing nature. Already, early glimpses of that footprint are found stamped onto the backsides of three unprecedented 100-yr. droughts.

            Rainforest decimation is but one of many ecosystem perils that should land on the desks of every world leader: “Urgent – Do Something!” And, oh yeah, while your at it maybe put in a good word for clean renewable energy.

            In lieu of today’s inordinately compressed timeline of climate change (many scientists say stuff is happening 10xs faster than ever before), risks of widespread collapsing ecosystems are now more pronounced than at any time since the discovery of fire. It’s not too difficult to point a finger at the prime movers and shakers, i.e., excessive greenhouse gases like CO2 and the pitched battle over infinite growth. Infinity is a lot.

            All of which brings to light the highly controversial Stern Review: The Economics of Climate Change, 2006 (more relevant today than back in the day). The British government requisitioned the high-powered study to calculate the economics of climate change. The landmark 700-page report, stated: “Climate change is the greatest and widest-ranging market failure ever seen.”

            The Stern Review also ticked off a handful of consequences, assuming a “worst-case basis” and “business as usual, ” meaning no effort by the nations of the world to reign-in greenhouse gas emissions. Some of the mentions include, sea level rise possibly as high as 10-15 feet…

            • Ambiorix Ambiorix

              , sea level rise possibly as high as 10-15 feet (remember- “worst-case basis”) in a few decades, Florida, NYC, and London likely flooded at various stages, and massive water-food shortages throughout the world, assuming temps run up 2C-5C during the century. And assuming “business as usual.”

              Additionally, according to the report: Deforestation is responsible for more emissions than the transport sector, and a number of studies suggest “Amazon rainforest could be vulnerable to climate change, with models projecting significant drying in this region.” (a prophetic statement 12 years ago)

              In sum, and relevant to all of the above, according to Mauna Loa Observatory as of Sept. 23, 2018 Atmospheric CO2 registers 405.5 ppm versus 381.82 ppm twelve years ago.

              As an aside, following the asteroid collision 65mya within a period of 100,000 years, CO2 increased at rate of 0.2ppm/yr taking temps up 5C. Today we’re at “2.3 ppm/yr or the highest growth rate ever seen in modern times,” according to Carl Edward Rasmussen, University of Cambridge, Sept. 2018.

              Apologies to Sir Nicholas Stern, as contrary to admonitions in his 700-page report, free-market globalists have cranked up the dial for CO2 up-up-and-away, forever more! Infinite growth!

              Biz as usual prevails.

              What was it Sir Nicholas Stern said about the “worst-case basis”?

              Postscript: “Every tree in the forest is a fountain, sucking water out of the ground through its roots and releasing water vapor into the…

              • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                “Every tree in the forest is a fountain, sucking water out of the ground through its roots and releasing water vapor into the atmosphere through pores in its foliage. In their billions, they create giant rivers of water in the air – rivers that form clouds and create rainfall hundreds or even thousands of miles away.”

                “But as we shave the planet of trees, we risk drying up these aerial rivers and the lands that depend on them for rain. A growing body of research suggests that this hitherto neglected impact of deforestation could in many continental interiors dwarf the impacts of global climate change. It could dry up the Nile, hobble the Asian monsoon, and desiccate fields from Argentina to the Midwestern United States.” (Fred Pearce- eminent UK author and science journalist)

                https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/10/05/drought-laden-rainforests/

                • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                  If they now could follow up with an equally passionate plea for the oceans algae as main oxigen provider also inevitably setup for extinction by Fukushima and all the other symptoms of our barbaric presence in this swiss clockwerk of symbioses we call planetlife..3,5 billion years in the making/finetuning…and then we add our misplaced gassing contribution..

                  Maybe the average joe would have enough basic info to start comprehending "tah picture"

                  • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                    Meanwhile we should have a circkle of 500 miles around every significant piece of ancient wood sprayed by drones/planes with ebola or something to keep those pesky loggers away..or maybe somthing else that wont spread in to the forest and attack the last honest tribes of original human beings..

                    • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                      How is that planet cooling going you genocidal pieces of delussional shit..oh wait..nevermind..that lie has served its delay function and is now officially off the table right..and instantly replaced with..too late , can't do anything about it because "right now or ever" its not "ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE"..

                      They just had to hold on to that lie till the dumbing down had "progressed" enough in cruelty and numbers of minions..and now trump is here to never let go of the death-grip by the coörporate elite again..

                      And turn the whole world in to a concentration camp of starving human cattle when the bio-sphere collapses..so to avoid a well-deserved asswhooping..the only thing where they clearly showed long term thinking capabilities btw..

                      Thanks a bunch you ratfucked souls..

                    • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                      "and now trump is here to never let go of the death-grip by the coörporate elite again.."

                      With 100% full cheering support by said created minions..so far they helped spreading the coörporate fabricated lies..and obstructed awareness and common sense wherever it threatened their agressively suicidal
                      sub-bubble , and now Trump is molding them in to armed combattants against the "evil powergrabbing opposit side"

                    • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                      The Rotchilds and all his likes..the Koch roaches brothers and the likes , the trump and the likes..there is NOTHING i couldent do to them to get rid off them..and i still would be a Saint compared to what they do to this world and on what scale to all its inhibitants..and to satisfy what bipedal primal mutated motives..they have their teeth sunk in this planet and can't let go..cut their fucking heads off..

                    • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                      Aah feeling better already..i think i take a break now..

                    • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                      Ladies..please do..and if there is a way to turn out so massive that you can step outside the zionist controlled coörporate war on everything profiting duopoly..that would be Totally awesome..

                      https://www.politico.com/gallery/2018/10/05/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-003011?slide=11

                    • Ambiorix Ambiorix

                      Typo inhibitants=inhabitants duh! Later..

                    • slandermen slandermen

                      Cheers.

                      Remember to tell all those subversive genocidal industrial promoting cunts to fuckoff. Left or right, doesn't matter.

  • slandermen slandermen

    https://earther.gizmodo.com/we-have-a-decade-to-prevent-a-total-climate-disaster-1829585748

    No you fucking don't and you better divert your focus from industrial solutions or you will be fucking spending a long time in the abyss.

  • slandermen slandermen

    Beware, I will target your princes and your throats.

  • slandermen slandermen

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/10/taylor-swift-endorsed-a-democrat-for-senate-and-now-her-conservative-fans-are-very-sad/

    "Ali @aleombruni

    @taylorswift13 U just lost half your fans for being such a fool! U should have stayed brainless & kept your mouth shut! U libnuts never learn! We pay u to sing not talk about things u know nothing about! 👇🏻#Yourcareersabouttotank #boycotttaylorswift #idiot"

    Nice saudi/republican mentality there. "you should've stayed brainless & kept your mouth shut"

    Anyway, anyone else remember that sort of nazi-like music video of hers?

    It's a nice picture of hypocritical pandering.

  • slandermen slandermen

    See I don't have fucking tolerance for society's bullshit anymore, I really fucking don't. The messages will reach you, one after the other, your judgment day will be coated in the coldest embrace of winter.

  • Trump guilty of tax evasion and fraud:

    “Last week, reporters at The New York Times broke a major story that President Donald Trump helped his father ‘dodge’ taxes, including ‘instances of outright fraud.’

    “They're not done. …”
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/07/media/trump-tax-investigation-nyt-susanne-craig/index.html

  • slandermen slandermen

    Death is better than the shit you people propose.

    • Jebus Jebus

      You're a pathetic moron…

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          You guys are ahead of me. I cant figure out what stuff is being proposed by whom. "Death is better than the shit you people propose."

          I could imagine that if what is being proposed is more of the same exploitative business as usual…the massive strip mining, the global chemical assault that leaves animals and plants in misery, sick, struggling and dying, more banal, low, restrictive profit driven control by corrupt politicians, lawyers and their strong arm police, more factory farms, more nuclear plants, coal and oil lines threading through the gulf of Mexico like some poison alien web, destroying all that is pristine and beautiful, life giving and magical…more religious faith and judgement based on ignorant men who cant understand philosophy, who use their positions for power and sexual deviancy, more economigroth, packing people into grid cities where their natural drives and abilities are subverted to the system which at the same time alienates them, leading to anger, frustration, crime, hatred, with every solution mired in profit grabbing institutes that suck ever more money out of the population for their own existence, a medical system that takes all of your wealth, through the triple theft of overpriced, toxic pharmaceuticals, capitalist hospital engines where doctor is disconnected to patient in a mad rush to maximize profit and of course the insurance companies that just sit like bloated ticks sucking the blood of civilization, engorged by the wealth that…

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            .. the insurance companies that just sit like bloated ticks sucking the blood of civilization, engorged by the wealth that is drained from the sick and dying people by a chain of poison starting from public ignorance, political control, industrial poisoning, insipid civil planning, lockstep unquestioned adherence to the rules and status quo of what is essentially a dark ages mentality of social control and strata, unchecked overpopulation by a species super self aggrandized, unaware of they are driving the living world to an ugly, sick, confined, choked quagmire/prison of dead zones and extermination. Then I think Slander has a valid point. Who wants to be around to see the massive, hideous monstrosity called civilization devolve into the ultimate misery of starvation, war, pestilence, retardation, cannibalism…. this thing is going to end far more viciously, tempestuously than you can possibly imagine.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              the kind reader will please auto correct my typos and substitute your superior wording and exemplifications

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                Hear! Hear!

                Could not be stated better..it is only a matter of time now.

                Only a very few see it..the approaching future..most have no stinking clue.

                Lockstep with humanity's insanity.. should be a song title.

                Me..I am going shopping! Santa is coming!

                • earthsmith earthsmith

                  It can be said.. all one has to do is look around, and they do. Sadly they look to the perpetrators.
                  The devolve has taken hold of its resolve. As you frankly put the political economics of the power grips can not make it go away.

      • slandermen slandermen

        This is about the most appropriate thing I can find for you atm.

        Carbon Dioxide Is Shriveling Men’s Balls

        https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/10/carbon-dioxide-is-shriveling-mens-balls/

        I dunno about you, but my balls just keep on growing.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    When animals start behaving like animals..one's got to blame something!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6252211/Pope-blames-devil-Church-divisions-scandals-seeks-angels-help.html

    Someone must be watching SNL!

    Enjoy!

    Church Chat: Satan – SNL – YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuJpalsj9sQ

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    High cost medical care "A Nobel Prize-winning physicist sold his medal for $765,000 to pay medical bills" https://www.vox.com/health-care/2018/10/4/17936626/leon-lederman-nobel-prize-medical-bills

  • slandermen slandermen

    Anyone remember michael? I told you, that guy can growl.

    https://earther.gizmodo.com/hurricane-michael-could-bring-major-storm-surge-to-flor-1829599606

    I'm hopeful (in a prediction sense) it won't actually be as bad as that article say it could be.

    • slandermen slandermen

      I mean, other than trees and oceanic remediation, agricultural changes and so on.

      • slandermen slandermen

        Somewhat related I guess.

        "A new analysis that uses high-resolution data for 24 ocean regions in Africa, Europe, North and South America and Australasia shows that 14 percent of the overall seafloor shallower than 1,000 meters (3,280 feet) is trawled. Most trawl fishing happens in this depth range along continental shelves and slopes in the world's oceans. The study focused on this depth range, covering an area of about 7.8 million square kilometers of ocean."

        https://phys.org/news/2018-10-high-res-trawl-fishing-footprint-world.html

        • slandermen slandermen

          That's actually kind of staggering, considering. I mean, of all the fucking ocean, about a seventh of the ocean up 1 kilometer in depth is basically destroyed, much of what is tralwed, wasted too. And I mean, there are a number of effects related to that other than just effects from the trawling (I mean beyond even the compound ecosystem damage resulting from the trawling itself).

          And what about the rest of the ocean?

  • slandermen slandermen

    https://phys.org/news/2018-10-dryer-environment-spurred-human-evolution.html

    Be positive about the desertification, it'll just make you stronger.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      archeologists are the only guys who can find a single tooth and infer the entire 1200 pages of War and Peace Plus the effects of global warming.

      They know for example that man is about 200,000 years old and the oldest civilization is about 3000 years BC. eh… OK.

      "The older stone tools found at Olorgesailie did not change much between 1.2 million and a half-million years ago. And suddenly, after 500,000 and before 320,000 years ago—we don't know exactly when, but in that timespan—there was a critical transition in archeology when tools became more sophisticated"

      Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-10-dryer-environment-spurred-human-evolution.html#jCp&quot;

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    I'm going to take bids on a power plant and never build it, then raise my rates to all you motherfuckers… er, customers

    • slandermen slandermen

      And then, after you've gotten numerous subsidies and investments, insurance privileges, most of that paid by citizens, about 20 years later, you can decommission it, which will also be paid for by…well, the citizens, and then, there's the waste remediation. I mean, you can't expect a corporation to pay for that, it's not their environment.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Mad Max. You know that movie. Some real dumbshits in the movies. "I Am Wrath" starring John Travolta brings dirty cops dirty politicians and the EPA into the plot. Whoooa fuck, what were they thinkin

  • slandermen slandermen

    I'm just gonna through this out there, because I don't really care about consensus, as consensus isn't inherently good.

    So, the ionosphere, does anyone think it could effect the climate in non-obvious ways?

  • slandermen slandermen

    "Researchers have discovered how to slow aging

    Natural product found to reduce the level of damaged cells in the body, caused by aging"

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181002114024.htm

    But…isn't shit like that kinda obvious? Couldn't you basically say something similar about many natural products?

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      no, no ,no…it WAS a natural product in fruit but NOW its a DRUG. Much better profit and safety control. Codex Alimentarius is just chomping at the bit to find a way to make all fruits and vegetables into drugs

      • slandermen slandermen

        Get this, what if that isn't even really aging related, or that they classify as aging is in fact just damage or the results of damage from a number of environmental factors, diets, drugs and so on?

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    How to classify placebos? Depends on what drug it's supposed to replace, I guess. It might even be a schedule 1 narcotic. Play it safe, kids. Don't do placebos. They cut it with other placebos, so you are just wasting money and might just be purchasing placebos, too

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    What do they put in those placebos, anyway? It's gotta be something. An empty pill would not fool a patient.

    My luck, I'd join a study, and get counterfeit nothin. Boy, that'd be something

    • slandermen slandermen

      That is actually a really good point, so fucking obvious. Trump would never have thought about that.

      Just imagine, all those placebo studies that show benefits? Trying to say something has the effect of nothing is non-sensical.

      Maybe you can go through all those placebo studies, find out what the placebos consisted of and can correlate that with benefits or damage.

      • slandermen slandermen

        And I'm not being sarcastic, I actually mean that. In some of those cases, I could actually imagine the placebo itself, considering what it consisted of was useful.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      yes, like the experiment where they tested the safety of a diabetes drug against a sugar pill…

      "the company producing the experimental drug often supplies the study placebo as well.

      “What rules are there about what goes into placebos?”

      "She contacted the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and learned that, in fact, there were no rules." and most of the time the placebo ingredients arent listed. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-whats-placebo/so-whats-in-a-placebo-anyway-idUSTRE69H51L20101018

      They compare fallout to background radiation. They did that study on all the people of Japan and decided any negative effects were just in their minds

      • slandermen slandermen

        Well that should be changed. Placebos should be known, disclosed and verified for any comparison to placebo to be meaningful.

        I think we can some fucking solid scientific careers with that.

      • slandermen slandermen

        "“We can only hope that this hasn’t seriously systematically affected medical treatment,” noted Golomb. "

        How optimistic do you feel? Considering some of the drug effects, recalls, profiteering, etc.

      • Which of these statements are actually true?

        "yes, like the experiment where they tested the safety of a diabetes drug against a sugar pill"

        "She contacted the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and learned that, in fact, there were no rules."

        So which of these statements are actually true?

        Answer? NEITHER!!!

        First "sugar pill is slang for placebo" Placebo does NOT mean sugar pill!

        That's just common sense (unfortunately no so common as evidenced continually).

        Feeding a sugar pill to a diabetic would not only completely negate the purpose of blind studies, it would be actionable in court.

        How sucked in do you have to be to think any researcher would feed sugar to a diabetic? I think that one speaks for itself.

        Second statement? Complete BULLSHIT yet again! This kind of total crap is for those that like to panic and confuse and has NO truth to it.

        There are VERY stringent rules ANYTIME you GIVE ANYONE ANYTHING in medicine.

        The point of these tests is to learn. A placebo MUST be a HARMLESS inactive ingredient that has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER!

        That's the definition of placebo! AND IT AIN'T SUGAR PILLS used in a diabetic study folks.

        But truth is just not shocking enough for some so they use any trick in the book to create some fake problem!

        That's just common sense…

        Try finding some and get off the lie wagon for panic stricken crap if you can help it codeshutdown!

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Im having difficulty finding evidence that HD is not a mutated peanut.

          Read a little more on placebos here, including the use of a lactose placebo that was killing AIDs patients, lack of FDA oversight, use of active placebos that attempt to mimic the negative side effects expected from the drug, and a placebo that worked better than a placebo

          https://bigthink.com/devil-in-the-data/whats-in-a-placebo

          • The placebo effect?

            TRUE!!!

            Many times 33% of placebo patients in any study will get better…

            Why?

            Because positive thinking creates positive changes in that person and it's not just the idea they are taking a drug.

            Often times it's simply because they think it will work and they will get better.

            A depressed person has no plans, they are sedentary, sleep too much, eat the wrong things and don't exercise.

            A person that thinks they have a new lease in life makes new plans and follows through.

            And many times they will make changes to their diet as well?

            Ya know like no time to lay around and eat junk food on the couch?

            So is the placebo effect real? Proven in science time and again!

            Is it caused my some mystical force? Yes it is!

            YOU!

            Your habits and chemical makeup ARE changed by your mood, from your outlook and from the foods you eat and the exercise you get!!!

            And a belief you are going to heal and get better everyday? That's all three! Physically, mentally and spiritually.

            The placebo effect… Believing something is more powerful than drugs in sometimes 30% of the patents eating nothing but a positive idea?

            Wowsers…

          • "Im having difficulty finding evidence that HD is not a mutated peanut."

            Hehehe… Good one code.

            That's because you are informationaly challenged…

            You have Isee from LD and ADD. Isee is a new breakthrough diagnosis from the makers of Dufusama (C)(TM)(Pat.).

            Only is costs 900% more than it takes to make, but it's gonna be a actual drug to qualify so we can getta patent on it (so no one can have it for what it costs to make but us)…

            I call my drug:

            Dufusamaflogamaflin (C)(TM)(Pat.)

            Try my new drug and then you will be able to see I'm only a hippie with some dog in it.

            Proven to work after following the instructions contained in the pamphlet.

            I'd rather eat a peanut than be a nut. You?

            And I'm liking placebos myself. I eat NO drugs.

          • "including the use of a lactose placebo that was killing AIDs patients"

            So AIDS Patients were being killed by lactose?

            A HIV positive person and a AIDS patent are two completely different things.

            Wow good news for AIDS patents though huh…

            Just don't feed em lactose? Nobel prize material there codeshutdown…

            I wonder why I didn't think of that :-(.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              lactose is a sugar and you said they dont use sugar. I contend HD is 99% chimpanzee and 50% bananas, and this could explain why he cant admit he was wrong about placebo ingredients

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    They said reactor 3 was safe— just before it blew up. It turns out they were right. Reactor 3 was safe before it blew up

    • "They said reactor 3 was safe"

      They were NEVER safe even when they were new! Do you know how many engineers in the US resigned over that (mark 1) design?

      Here's a few of the most notable…

      https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Professionalism/The_GE_Three#Resignation

      The core water leaves the reactor and flows directly into the turbine buildings in a mark 1!

      How stupid is that? It was a enlarged design from submarines where there wasn't room to to split the flows into 2! And it wouldn't have mattered in a submarine anyway.

      It does however matter when you build them hundreds of time bigger in a open world environment.

      Check this diagram out:

      https://www.nrc.gov/reactors/bwrs.html

      Notice the pipe configuration and how the core water leaves containment all together and then returns?

      So the CORE water at Fukushima flowed out of containment and to the turbine buildings many yards away through pipes?

      Then some genius decided to load it with plutonium enriched MOX fuel?

      Were these things EVER safe? No…

      Do we have the proof now?

      You bet ya!!!!

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    I have some kind of angst disorderr

    • "I have some kind of angst disorderr"

      Nope that's angst with a real reason to have it!

      There are 23 of these mark 1 death traps running in the US right now, ALL are past their shutdown date!

      They say they have upgraded them but the truth is the radioactive water from the core still leaves the containment building!

      What does that actually mean? THERE IS NO CONTAINMENT!

      Here's the supposed retro fit too, even more disturbing…

      "The retrofits involved additional ventilation to prevent overpressurization of the containment unit, among other safety fallback mechanisms"

      So basically they just made it easier to dump core radiation into the environment quicker and in greater quantities in the event of a problem?

      That was the answer? Really????

      Gives me angst too and if people knew it would do the same to them.

      That's not a disorder, that's a real reason to have angst!!!!

      Time to shut these death traps down NOW!!!!

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    I'm strapping myself in to bed now. 'night

  • slandermen slandermen

    Facebook VP Who Incensed Staff by Supporting Brett Kavanaugh Later Hosted a Party for Him

    "Some employees at Facebook have been furious that one of their top lobbyists, vice president for global public policy and former George W. Bush administration official Joel Kaplan, publicly supported Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings even as the latter faced multiple allegations of sexual assault."

    https://gizmodo.com/facebook-vp-who-incensed-staff-by-supporting-brett-kava-1829611751

    Well tbh, I never knew much about facebook since I never used it. But it certainly is good to know their public policy guy or something like that isn't associated with assholes.

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