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  • freebywill

    BREAKING: Chippewa Tribe Calls for Pipeline Removal from All Tribal Land, Refuses Right-of-way Renewal http://thefreethoughtproject.com/enbridge-pipeline-removal-chipewa-land/

    [ excerpts from the article ]

    While Standing Rock Sioux Tribe members remain entrenched in a battle to stop the Dakota Access Pipeline, the Bad River tribal council passed a formal resolution against renewing rights-of-way for Enbridge’s Energy Line 5 — and officially called for the pipeline to be decommissioned and removed from all tribal lands and the affected watershed.

    “As many other communities have experienced, even a minor spill could prove to be disastrous for our people,” Bad River Tribal Chairman Robert Blanchard noted on the remarkable decision in the press release. “We depend upon everything that the creator put here before us to live mino-bimaadiziwin, a good and healthy life.”

    “These environmental threats not only threaten our health, but they threaten our very way of life as Anishinaabe,” Tribal Council Member Dylan Jennings asserted. “We all need to be thinking of our future generations and what we leave behind for them.”

    [ link to press release ]
    https://wcmcoop.com/2017/01/05/bad-river-band-denies-renewal-of-enbridge-line-5-grant-of-easement/

    [ tribal website ] http://badriver-nsn.gov/


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  • freebywill

    BREAKING: Rogue Tribal Council Votes to Evict NoDAPL Camp, Use Donated Funds to Pay Off Debt http://thefreethoughtproject.com/standing-rock-council-evict-nodapl-camp-funds/

    Cannon Ball, ND — In an astonishingly abrupt move, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe Council went rogue and voted to shut down the Camp of the Sacred Stones — the original encampment set up by Indigenous youth — and to apply all funds donated in support of the camps to pay off the tribe’s debts.

    Standing Rock Tribe Chairman Dave Archambault II — long believed by some to be corrupt — claimed in the meeting the camps have rampant health and hygiene issues and must be shut down.

    Now, two council members under Archambault’s guidance, have proposed a tragic end to the oldest camp in Standing Rock — and the complete removal of all water protectors who have called the site home — some of them since opposition to Dakota Access began.

    Archambault previously used the cover of a delay imposed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to declare, falsely, a victory over Dakota Access and attempted to effect a mass evacuation of water protectors. After that announcement, the atmosphere became noticeably hostile at Standing Rock, as leaders seemed to both worry for campers’ safety in the subzero temperatures — and resent their massive presence.

    [ wow ]


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  • razzz razzz

    It is easy to ignore what is going on outside the US since the US will be the last domino to fall.

    'Bitcoin – What Next?'

    "…Bitcoin has been the escape method for capital fleeing China. With the looming trade war on the horizon, the Chinese government will have absolutely NO CHOICE but to come in and regulate bitcoin as its citizens now account for 98% of all trading. From a regulatory perspective, the days of passive treatment of bitcoin may come to an end. Bitcoin has soared only because it has been the mechanism to obtain foreign exchange and take capital out of China. This could easily be considered an illegal operation, such as money laundering, to justify closing that window.

    Of course, you have the zealots who preach bitcoin as the alternative to the dollar that they cannot shut down. All they need to do is declare bitcoins illegal and the PRESUMPTION of being in bitcoin is a PRESUMPTION of being a criminal. They are already using terms like “CASH IS FOR CRIMINALS” and if you have a few thousand in cash, they just confiscate it presuming you are criminal under Civil Asset Forfeiture without having to prove you committed a crime or charging you. Keep in mind we are dancing with the devil. There are no rules — just ruthless self-interest. They will do whatever it takes to survive. They will not relinquish power willingly."
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/taxes/bitcoin-what-next/


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  • Five people are dead and eight others were injured after a shooting Friday at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, according to the Broward Sheriff's Office. FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. –

    http://www.local10.com/news/shots-fired-at-fort-lauderdale-hollywood-international-airport


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  • Byrian420 Byrian420

    CERN is AWAKEning, The "TRUTH" community is not!!!

    https://youtu.be/LMouisUbDiQ


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  • Ft. Lauderdale airport shootings LIVE COVERAGE

    Here's a update, lot's of new information…

    http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Shooting-Reported-Inside-Fort-Lauderdale–Hollywood-International-Airport-409905825.html

    —————

    Update!!! The current evidence says the gunman packed the gun in his "checked" bag and worked as a security guard in Alaska, was a veteran (served in Iraq for 1 year and 2 days)…

    The gun (in his checked bag) was placed in the baggage hold of the plane, a normal operation when flying…

    Flew from Minnesota to Fla before opening fire in the baggage claim area…


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    US finds link between Russia, WikiLeaks: report
    43 minutes ago

    “U.S. intelligence officials have identified the intermediaries Russia used to deliver stolen emails to WikiLeaks, CNN reports.

    “The go-betweens used by the Russians were identified in a classified report presented to President Obama on Thursday, U.S. officials familiar with the report told CNN.

    “WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange denied in a Fox News interview earlier this week that Russia provided the stolen Democratic documents that the group published last year during the presidential campaign.

    “A senior U.S. intelligence official told NBC News on Thursday that the U.S. had specifically identified Russian sources that gave WikiLeaks material from internal accounts of the Democratic Party.

    “NBC’s source also echoed reports that U.S. intelligence agencies captured communications from top Russian officials celebrating President-elect Donald Trump’s White House win in November.

    “’Highly classified intercepts illustrate Russian government planning and direction of a multifaceted campaign by Moscow to undermine the integrity of the American political system,’ the official said of the report’s assessment.

    “Two top intelligence officials with direct knowledge told NBC that Thursday’s report on Russian hacking confirms cyberattacks against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) last year.

    “Russian efforts also targeted the White House, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the State Department and…


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  • Proof C02 and global warming is a myth…

    Think humans cause global warming?

    NOT!!!

    C02 causing climate change?

    Give me a break…

    The earths climate is warming because of human activity?

    NOT AT ALL!!!!

    Take the trip back to reality and join the folks with the real answers.

    Do that and you'll have time to study the true things that are killing this world, don't do that and be busy studying fairy tails while the earth get's into real trouble…

    …pay attention and mabe save someone…

    Global warming? Yepper…

    Caused by humans? NOT!!!

    "Researchers who see the whole climate change/global warming theory as bogus"

    Yep and it's about time too!!! These studies (c02) are a vicious waste of much needed funds to study pollution and nuclear radiation from accidents and then release the information in real terms of global problems we can do something about.

    Want to know the REAL reason the climate changes?

    No conspiracy theories?
    No crazy conspiracy claims?
    No he said she said waste of time crap?

    Just the real scientific cause spelled out in simple to understand form?

    Well here you go…

    https://youtu.be/rSpi67AGh5M

    …how about that.

    Global warming from simple c02 is a distraction from our real pollution problems and those funds could be used to actually help stop this death nail (deadly pollution and nuclear warming) to our world…

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Cyberwar for Sale

    After a maker of surveillance software was hacked, its leaked documents shed light on a shadowy global industry that has turned email theft into a terrifying — and lucrative — political weapon."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/04/magazine/cyberwar-for-sale.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0


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  • Truth or propaganda…

    Here's a great one to think about the next time some tells you a story, of a story, of a story, of a story they heard from somewhere else…

    https://youtu.be/EYAcRjrH82c?t=1m6s

    Gotta go…


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "The Greenville News

    Environmental groups and landowners are challenging plans for a 55-mile natural gas pipeline to be constructed from Spartanburg County to Greenwood County as government regulators consider issuing approval.

    The pipeline proposed by Dominion Resources Services is unneeded and would benefit only the company and its customers in the Lowcountry while Upstate residents would lose private property and bear the brunt of its impact, according to Upstate Forever and the South Carolina Environmental Law Project."

    Read more here: http://www.heraldonline.com/news/state/south-carolina/article124140099.html#storylink=cpy


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  • Never forget to keep laughing through whatever life throws at ya!

    The happy mind just works better…

    The Amazing Johnathan – Just For Laughs:

    https://youtu.be/u6P1QRqFeww?t=1m11s


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    “Certain gases in the atmosphere block heat from escaping. Long-lived gases that remain semi-permanently in the atmosphere and do not respond physically or chemically to changes in temperature are described as "forcing" climate change. Gases, such as water vapor, which respond physically or chemically to changes in temperature are seen as ‘feedbacks.’…”
    http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

    And then there acid rain, nuclear waste, Krypton-85 from nuclear power plants and nuclear weapons manufacture, melting methane, hydrogen sulfide, and 2,000 radionuclides and hot water expelled from nuclear reactors, etc.


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  • Sanders said, “What we are looking at right now is a budget process whose ultimate goal is to remove health insurance from tens of millions of Americans.”

    Sen. Sanders continued, “Let us be very clear, the Republican plan, their budget plan, lays the groundwork for ending the Affordable Care Act, which will remove tens of millions of Americans from the health insurance they get.”

    He demanded that Republicans come down and tell the Senate what their new plan is.

    Sanders called out Trump and the Republicans for wanting to end Medicare as it currently exists by turning it into a voucher program.

    Later in his speech, Sen. Sanders took direct aim at the president-elect’s lies about not cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, “Mr. Trump right now has got to do one of two things. Number one, if all that he was talking about was campaign rhetoric then what he is obliged to do now is to tell the American people, ‘Yeah, I was lying. Yeah, I said I would not support cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid but I was lying. It was a campaign ruse. I just said what came to my mind to get votes. I have no intention of keeping my word.’
    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/04/bernie-sanders-erupts-senate-floor-calls-trump-lies-cutting-healthcare.html


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    James Woolsey says the Intel community needs revisions..wolves inside..wolves outside.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Revise?.. there aren't any players in the field, that have any concept of what that means.
    Hail the Patriot Act..(SARCASM)


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    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Today's headlines..
      Israeli Intel says Russia has nuke capable bombs in Syria.
      Russia is going to 'throw down' over Syria?
      The Mossad says?
      I'd say in the land of fake news.. their organization is a bit suspect.


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    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Umm… is this where we hide under the desks?
      BUT FOR HOW LONG?
      What disagreement is so vast that in a supposedly on a supposedly civilized planet can not be deterred by diplomacy?
      So we continue to shake sticks at each other ..
      BUT FOR HOW LONG?
      Oh, Humans are reaching new heights of intelligence… LIKE HELL!


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  • Trump;

    Taking away

    Social Security
    Medicare
    Medicaid
    Health Insurance (replace it with 'medical savings account')
    EPA
    overturning Roe Vs Wade
    Will put women in jail for trying abortion once law overturned
    privatizing everything


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  • Do 17 picks for Donald Trump's Cabinet have a higher net worth than one-third of Americans?
    http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/dec/30/mark-pocan/do-17-picks-donald-trumps-cabinet-have-higher-net-/

    Draining the swamp, by putting in bigger alligators


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  • One of the country’s largest Christian groups has issued a sternly worded condemnation of President-elect Donald Trump’s cabinet selections and policy agenda, warning that Trump will put America’s most vulnerable citizens at “greater risk” if he does not change.

    The National Council of Churches (NCC)—which represents 38 denominations and faith communities, or roughly 45 million people—unveiled the statement on Friday afternoon. Co-signed by the Conference of National Black Churches, the Ecumenical Poverty Initiative, and the Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference, the letter implores the former businessman not to repeal the Affordable Care Act (ACA) or slash funding for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) — better known as food stamps — saying such programs protect the poor
    https://thinkprogress.org/major-christian-group-condemns-trumps-cabinet-picks-policy-agenda-ecac368a817d#.q7zbqmk0v


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  • irhologram

    Psych Warfare. Hearing microwaved voices. Maybe the Ft. Lauderdale shooter was a victim of sonic projection, maybe not, but a very interesting coincidence is these mass shooters all had contact with authorities sufficient for intake into mind control programs.

    "Imagine a weapon that creates sound that only you can hear. Science fiction? No, this is one area that has a very solid basis in reality. The Air Force has experimented with microwaves that create sounds in people's head (which they've called a possible psychological warfare tool), and American Technologies can "beam" sounds to specific targets with their patented HyperSound (and yes, I've heard/seen them demonstrate the speakers, and they are shockingly effective).
    Sound Now the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency is jumping on the bandwagon with their new "Sonic Projector" program:
        The goal of the Sonic Projector program is to provide Special Forces with a method of surreptitious audio communication at distances over 1 km. Sonic Projector technology is based on the non-linear interaction of sound in air translating an ultrasonic signal into audible sound. The Sonic Projector will be designed to be a man-deployable system, using high power acoustic transducer technology and signal processing algorithms which result in no, or unintelligible, sound everywhere but at the intended target.

    Cont.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Russia mastered various mind-control techniques decades ago. Why would anyone think the U.S., Great Britain, any of the other superpowers would not pursue the same technologies? It has been the stated objective of the superpowers to master such techniques, for a long time.

      Area 51? I remember when people said it was "conspiracy theory" and didn't exist.

      It does exist. Any technicians, for example, inspecting 3rd party microwave installations on nearby mountaintops, must get security clearances to get in through Area 51. Security is extremely tight, and everyone going in from the outside is carefully monitored.

      Now Area t1 is on the map, LOL.


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  • irhologram

    The Sonic Projector system could be used to conceal communications for special operations forces and hostage rescue missions, and to disrupt enemy activities.
    Here's the question of the day: if the military were to beam voices into somebody's head, what would they say?"

    Note: This article was written in 2007. Suppose in 10 years they might have perfected it?
    http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Sonic_Projection.html

    Mind Games
    2007-01-14, Washington Post
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR20070110013

    "A community of people who believe the government is beaming voices into their minds … may be crazy, but the Pentagon has pursued a weapon that can do just that. An academic paper written for the Air Force in the mid-1990s mentions the idea of [such] a weapon. "The signal can be a 'message from God' that can warn the enemy of impending doom, or encourage the enemy to surrender." In 2002, the Air Force Research Laboratory patented precisely such a technology: using microwaves to send words into someone's head. The patent was based on human experimentation in October 1994 at the Air Force lab, where scientists were able to transmit phrases into the heads of human subjects, albeit with marginal intelligibility. The official U.S. Air Force position is that there are no non-thermal effects of microwaves.

    Cont.


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  • irhologram

    Yet … the military's use of weapons that employ electromagnetic radiation to create pain is well-known. In 2001, the Pentagon declassified one element of this research: the Active Denial System, a weapon that uses electromagnetic radiation to heat skin and create an intense burning sensation. While its exact range is classified, Doug Beason, an expert in directed-energy weapons, puts it at about 700 meters, and the beam cannot penetrate a number of materials, such as aluminum. Given the history of America's clandestine research, it's reasonable to assume that if the defense establishment could develop mind-control or long-distance ray weapons, it almost certainly would. And, once developed, the possibility that they might be tested on innocent civilians could not be categorically dismissed."

    Ah. Not only had they very likely perfected it in 2007, the patent for projecting voices into your head was issued in 1994.

    But just because they have a stealth brain weapon doesn't mean they would actually use it, right? Because they love us so much, right?

    Thanks for the heads up, Hippy. Anything you attack me for as being a lunatic for even considering probably deserves a closer look.


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  • GOM GOM

    Trump.. The Cycle

    But at the time people don’t realize they’re embarking on a route that will lead to a destruction period. They think they’re right, they’re cheered on by jeering angry mobs, their critics are mocked. This cycle, the one we saw for example from the Treaty of Versaille, to the rise of Hitler, to the Second World War, appears to be happening again. But as with before, most people cannot see it because:

    1. They are only looking at the present, not the past or future
    2. They are only looking immediately around them, not at how events connect globally
    3. Most people don’t read, think, challenge, or hear opposing views

    He is using passion, anger, and rhetoric in the same way all his predecessors did — a charismatic narcissist who feeds on the crowd to become ever stronger, creating a cult around himself.

    That history generally plays out the same way each time someone like him becomes the boss.


    ..I will post a brief historical view of this scenario and then be done with the topic.


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    • GOM GOM

      Trumps In Historical Context

      Based on history we are due another period of destruction, and based on history all the indicators are that we are entering one.

      You would have to read, study, and learn..to untangle the propaganda that is inevitable in all telling of history.
      We humans have a habit of going into phases of mass destruction, generally self imposed to some extent or another. This handy list shows all the wars over time. Wars are actually the norm for humans, but every now and then something big comes along.

      The collapse of the Roman Empire, Black Death, Spanish Inquisition, Thirty Years War, War of the Roses, English Civil War… it’s a long list. Events of massive destruction.
      At a local level in time people think things are fine, then things rapidly spiral out of control until they become unstoppable, and we wreak massive destruction on ourselves. For the people living in the midst of this it is hard to see happening and hard to understand.

      My point is that this is a cycle. It happens again and again.

      As the events that led to the First World War unfolded, there were a few brilliant minds who started to warn that something big was wrong, that the web of treaties across Europe could lead to a war, but they were dismissed as hysterical, mad, or fools, as is always the way, and as people who worry about Putin, Brexit, and Trump are dismissed now.

      Cont..


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      • GOM GOM

        Cont..

        ..People don’t realise they’re embarking on a route that will lead to a destruction period. They think they’re right, they’re cheered on by jeering angry mobs, their critics are mocked. This cycle, the one we saw for example from the Treaty of Versaille, to the rise of Hitler, to the Second World War, appears to be happening again.

        People don’t realize they’re embarking on a route that will lead to a destruction period. They think they’re right, they’re cheered on by jeering angry mobs, their critics are mocked. This cycle, the one we saw for example from the Treaty of Versaille, to the rise of Hitler, to the Second World War, appears to be happening again. But as with before, most people cannot see it because:

        1. They are only looking at the present, not the past or future
        2. They are only looking immediately around them, not at how events connect globally.
        3. Most people don’t read, think, challenge, or hear opposing views

        Trump is doing this in America. Those of us with some oversight from history can see it happening. . He is using passion, anger, and rhetoric in the same way all his predecessors did — a charismatic narcissist who feeds on the crowd to become ever stronger, creating a cult around himself.

        The bigger historical picture is that history generally plays out the same way each time someone like him becomes the boss.

        Cont..


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        • GOM GOM

          Cont..

          How will an apparently small event trigger another period of massive destruction. We see Brexit, Trump, Putin in isolation. The world does not work that way — all things are connected and affecting each other.

          Based on history we are due another period of destruction, and based on history all the indicators are that we are entering one. It will come in ways we can’t see coming, and will spin out of control so fast people won’t be able to stop it. How can we be so naive?

          Trump won against the other Republicans in debates by countering their claims by calling them names and dismissing them. It’s an easy route but the wrong one.

          So I feel it’s all inevitable. I don’t know what it will be, but we are entering a bad phase. It will be unpleasant for those living through it, maybe even will unravel into being hellish and beyond imagination.

          (Perhaps I’m just writing this so I can be remembered by history as one of the people who saw it coming.)


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          • Sam Sam

            Thanks Gom; great post.
            ignore Irhologram's ranting nonsense
            Looks like he has lost his critical
            reasoning in regards to all things
            Trump.


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            • GOM GOM

              Sam
              Thanks. Irholo is passionate. And stuck..lol


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              • Sam Sam

                Passionate and stuck on stupid! Just like most Americans
                out there and even some here on this site unfortunately.
                Lay the blame as the fly paper will stick all over the place.
                America with its exceptionalism nonsense is totally brainwashed
                and brain dead. No historical consciousness. All tabula rosa.
                Give Trump a chance. We have seen enough of Trump and he is
                dangerous, disgusting and a demagogue. Time will Tell. The fat
                lady at the Opera has belched out a screeching primal scream.
                True Believers exist on the tyrannical left as well as the Right.
                Facism is alive and growing again. Next four years will be a
                mad hatter ride of doom, gloom and destruction.
                I am no fan of Obama as well. nor of Hillary the crook.
                Since no one can agree on what Truth is today so
                the phrase reality check is an oxymoron. Twitter
                reality—-tweets from the deranged this is not the
                Delphi Oracle but tweets from Trumps demented reality.

                Alchemy has a formula of treating like with like.
                To be silent with all things Trump is to be aligned
                with the Titanic and the destruction of the Titans…disaster taking us all down.
                IN THIER FACE ALL THE TIME THAT IS HOW TO STAY SANE IN
                THE COMING MADNESS TAKING OVER THIS NATION

                DO NOT FORGET; WITH TRUMP WE WILL GET MORE NUCLEAR
                AND MORE DENIAL OF THE HARM OF RADIATION.
                If you like North China air pollution === It is coming quickly
                here to America as the EPA and air standards will be gutted.
                More methane in the air, more…


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                • irhologram

                  See, just in reminding you it is what it is and it isn't what it will be, you call me stuck on stupid. Yet all I have said are facts that you believe.

                  But you ASSUME (remember the components of that word) that I am FOR Trump because I am able to relate where we are with the fears you project into the future.

                  Let me be clear. You will remember I was not one of the devisive, candidate pushing, platform spouting, defensive, angry, political nerds here previous to the election. Let that sink in.

                  I am not FOR Trump. But here is reality, spoilsports!! Trump is the President.

                  He is YOUR President. It is USELESS to premptorily subvert what good he may or may not do. In my not so humble opinion, you are shooting yourself, me, all of us, in the foot when you sabetage ANY American President BEFORE he has acted as representative of this country.

                  When and if he DOES turn out like your collective unconscious may itself be influencing (now there's a quantum result we may not like), THEN is the time to attempt countering influence and to redirect ideas through dialogue.


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                • GOM GOM

                  Sam
                  Wow. What a post. I do not have the ability to blow smoke up people's ass, so take the compliment. lol.

                  "No historical consciousness".. Something I'd like to share. As an advid hunter of books, I often frequent thrift shops. Imagine my horror upon finding out they now throw away all 'old' books, including history. Persoally, if a book is not 'old' I have little use for it.

                  The point being, no real history read, taught, discussed.. equals disaster not only for a nation, but for humanity in general. 'We' perpetually fail to teach American history, so children grow up without any real sense of a national identity.

                  From The Federalist: " A respect for truth, however, obliges us to remark that they seem never for a moment to have turned their eyes from the danger, to liberty, from the overgrown and all-grasping prerogative of an hereditary magistrate, supported and fortified by an hereditary branch of the legislative authority. They seem never to have recollected the danger from legislative usurpations, which, by assembling all power in the same hands, must lead to the same tyranny as is threatened by executive usurpations".

                  http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/federalist-no-48/


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                  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                    Excellent GOM:

                    "The point being, no real history read, taught, discussed.. equals disaster not only for a nation, but for humanity in general. 'We' perpetually fail to teach American history, so children grow up without any real sense of a national identity."

                    Mine were 'homeschooled' for the most part, and online, and higher ed as well. Less 'personal' contact with 'educators'.

                    Result? They are quite different than their peers, and it is telling. Not many 'leaders'

                    What say you on the US Dept.of Education?

                    I'm sure everyone can guess what I think. :lol:


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                    • GOM GOM

                      AST

                      'Education' is a gross deception. If you want to hijack a planet, what could be a better way of doing it than by controlling the populace without them ever knowing? Unaware that anything’s going on, the populace would never revolt. Such is the nature of our world’s hijack by the invisible enemy — the ruling ‘elite’ and their silent war on humanity.

                      1. Conformity to authority figures.
                      2. Acceptance that ‘truth’ and what is ‘real’ comes from authority.
                      3. Reward comes from accurate memory recall from heavy repetition.
                      4. Non-compliance will be punished.

                      Thus, the real purpose of the education system is to cultivate conformity and prohibit critical thinking about anything of real importance.

                      Here is a brutally honest synopsis:

                      The Education System Deception

                      http://www.newparadigm.ws/my-blogs/the-education-system-deception/


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            • irhologram

              Sam…am I mistaken? Has Trump held office?

              Is it not useful to describe events now in place to describe our predicument?

              Have we become oracles and fortune tellers that we know Trump will do what he said he will not do?

              We can prognosticate that he WILL interfere in nation states, continue present, ubiquitous wars with them and initiate a war with Russia, egged on by Obama, because he said he would NOT?

              Have we found the musings of mind readers more interesting news than the news itself?

              Can we form opinions based on events rather than fear of infinate negative posibilities?


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              • Sam Sam

                Irhologram;; You are a great open minded American.
                You give everybody an equal chance on an level playing field.
                You make no a priori judgments like I have done. You reserve
                the right to come to an opinion based on events rather than
                projected fears.
                Time will tell very quickly how Trump will perform as President.
                We all have seen him in action before his takes office. We know
                a lot about the man and his character and life. Too bad we do
                not do pre-emptive political vetting of candidates mental health.
                It is going to be Russian roulette. Look at his cabinet and what
                they represent. Trump picked them……. I know you do not want
                to be judgmental and give him a chance and then evaluate.

                I seem to have like in Greek myth of Tiresias an ability to foresee
                the unseen……. I think that being open minded sometimes is great
                but to not see the signs in front of you and not have a historical
                consciousness can be a life threatening liability. Wisdom goes
                two ways—- not repeating past mistakes and being open to
                the new and unexpected………..Will will be able to see clearly
                through the fog of the propaganda as Trumps Presidency unfolds?
                Will Trump make America great again? Is that CODE language?
                Time will tell.


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                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Of course Trump cant make America great again. He is old school, a rich spoiled two bit business man.

                  The only way to make a great future is to put earth first, the source and sustainer, and forget about the profit first motive. Dog eat dog is not the ONLY method of existence, even though it ranks high in the animal kingdom.

                  With proper application of the wealth of knowledge and experience that humanity has amassed, people could live near utopian lives and have a lot of freedom to pursue their interests, arts, expressions and activities.

                  But people cant see this and cling to the sinking ship. Thus they will gasp for breath on the way down to the bottom


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              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                I believe we can and we have…
                BACK TO THE FUTURE predicts 9/11
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY&feature=youtu.be


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    This guy has an honorable story…

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/native-american-solar-energy-visionary-equips-standing-rock/story?id=44596909

    Native American Solar Energy Visionary Equips Standing Rock Protesters With Green Technology

    …ABC News, on Dec. 21, photographed Red Cloud’s fifth return visit to the camp where he continued installing various systems providing heat, light and electricity from renewable energy sources, including solar and wind. The founder and owner of Lakota Solar Enterprises, a Native American-owned and operated renewable energy firm in South Dakota, also trained hundreds of protesters on how to install the systems themselves so they can live sustainably and embrace green technology.

    More


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  • irhologram

    GOM The destruction you are referring to has been happening for decades, more than 100 years… Obama, the Peace Prize winner, has escalated and perpetuated unending wars that have reverberated by design since 2001. You don't feel it here, but Millions worldwide are dead, and their countries are threadbare, ugly, unsustainable, and made virtually uninhabitable by depleted uranium.

    NDAA, the Patriot Act and "legal" usurpation of the Bill of Rights, have eroded almost all of our rights, and if we should need to call on them, those who do will suffer more than the rest. Millions of refugees, dozens of countries' citizens forever displaced, our borders a joke. Death panels in hospitals to which I can personally attest, and drugs costing big pharma pennies, costing the sick made sick by nuclear, GMOs, Chem trails, etc., unable to afford the $500 or even the $1000 per pharma charges per dose, while the Fed. confiscates our birth right for the obscene riches of the 1% who kidnap our kids into sex slavery, ritual sacrifice, and organ donation.

    And this is TRUMP'S Fault? GOM, please remember Trump is not now in office and HAS NEVER BEEN in any office in any capacity. You are presenting politically biased, nonsequiter, illogical, gobbledy gook. I enjoy many of your posts, but this is nonsense.


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  • GOM GOM

    Irholo

    The post was written in historical context.

    My theory is that most peoples’ perspective of history is limited to the experience communicated by their parents and grandparents, so 50–100 years. To go beyond that you have to read, study, and learn to untangle the propaganda that is inevitable in all telling of history.


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  • GOM GOM

    'The shots heard round the world’ 100 years ago

    What unfolded from June 28 to the outbreak of continental war a month later has been dissected in 25,000 books — the mistakes, the blunders, the misjudgments, the hubris, the blind march that the statesmen involved knew could produce a catastrophe for Europe, even as they lacked the skill or will to stop it. In the four years of conflict that followed, millions would die, millions more would be physically and psychologically maimed for life. The three decades of chaos that came after and another world war would be a grim sequel in a half century of state-organized violence and murder around the world with a toll of nearly 100 million dead on battlefields, in bombed out cities, in death camps.

    My point is that this is a cycle. It happens again and again, but as most people only have a 50–100 year historical perspective they don’t see that it’s happening again.

    "The mistakes, the blunders, the misjudgments, the hubris, the blind march that the statesmen involved knew could produce a catastrophe.."

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/shots-heard-round-world-100-years-ago/


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  • PT you know that as soon as you make any comparison to Hitler, you just lost the argument?

    stock out


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    • Sam Sam

      Stock;
      As much as I like a lot of your work in the nuclear field and the content in your website is excellent
      and you love growing food and hooking up solar alternative energy and you love dogs………….
      when it comes to your political views you are one of the loose marbles rolling around out there.
      Some one touting Scott Walker Gov of Wisconsin for President back in the primaries tells us a lot.
      Too early I agree to compare Trump with Hitler. Trumpism is a pathological disease that has
      infected and deranged the thinking of a lot of America. You have written on sociopathy and
      psychopathy.. why not go back and re read your notes. Look at Trump as a clinical specimen
      Isolate it into a petri dish and watch the mold grow cancerously……. There are too many disturbing
      signs coming from Trump.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Trump is not a disease that infected…he is a manifestation of the underlying disease. The masses were diseased by straying from the natural and indoctrination. People voted for him. People voted when there was nobody to vote for, believing in the great democratic two party system. Ape man is kind of a loser…


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        • Sam Sam

          Lets use medical imagery as metaphor.

          Trumpism is the underlying disease of America. It is now manifesting itself as a cancerous skin eruption on a very sick body politic of America. There are skin cancers all over the place now. Trump himself is the oncologists worst nightmare. He is now inflaming and exploiting the sick body politic of America. He has been very successful in spreading the tumors. hard to stop it.
          He is no healer. He comes to divide, inflame, disorient and conquer. He is grandiose and
          has a cold heart……. Will the patient survive this onslaught? maybe? what will we look like
          four years from now? Disfigured beyond recognition????


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            The disease metaphor is good. We wouldnt have the scabs in office if the body of civilization was healthy.

            If you go back in history, there were always ugly despots with legions cheering them on. Speaking of Hitler, Germany was a high class modern country and people thought he was great. They waved flags of patriotism with hope for a high level future. For some reason people think it can only happen somewhere else, like Argentina or the Philippians…but the real cause is humanity itself.

            Those people ARE my species. The mindset is everywhere.

            Look at bosnia/chechnia or Thailand or Israel or….

            psychopathic overlords with legions of supporters, more than willing police to enforce and power trip, and a follow the leader public. From Nero to Trump, the main difference is that our brains have been decreasing as we head inexorably to a mass retardation future

            The answer isnt another leader set against the background of this taken for granted civilization. Both the mass consciousness and the system must change. If you want change you cant keep it the same.

            But this wont happen. People arent brave, they are powerless, humanity is too big, the overlords too rich and powerful and armed up. Thus the end will be horror


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    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Donald Trump's ex-wife once said Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed

      “According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed.

      "’Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed … Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist,’ Marie Brenner wrote.

      “Hitler was one of history's most prolific orators, building a genocidal Nazi regime with speeches that bewitched audiences.

      "’He learned how to become a charismatic speaker, and people, for whatever reason, became enamored with him,’ Professor Bruce Loebs, who has taught a class called the Rhetoric of Hitler and Churchill for the past 46 years at Idaho State University, told Business Insider earlier this year.

      "’People were most willing to follow him, because he seemed to have the right answers in a time of enormous economic upheaval.’

      “When Brenner asked Trump about how he came to possess Hitler's speeches, "Trump hesitated" and then said, ‘Who told you that?’…


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      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        “Trump then recalled, "Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of ‘Mein Kampf,' and he's a Jew."

        “Brenner added that Davis did acknowledge that he gave Trump a book about Hitler.

        "’But it was “My New Order,” Hitler's speeches, not 'Mein Kampf,'" Davis reportedly said. "I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish.’

        "After Trump and Brenner changed topics, Trump returned to the subject and reportedly said, "If, I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."

        "In the Vanity Fair article, Ivana Trump told a friend that her husband's cousin, John Walter ‘clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler," when visiting Trump's office…’.”
        http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8


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        • Sam Sam

          I think right now comparing Trump to Hitler will not work to awaken more people.
          hitler for most people conjure up the horrific of which most Americans would not
          like themselves compared to in supporting Trump……… His appeal now is that he
          appears to be speaking his truth to power which has conned so many. he is a con
          from the beginning. Hitler was admired in the beginning because he got the German
          economy working after the disastrous Treaty of Versaise. Alex Baldwin who impersonates Trump so well antagonizes him…. that is one path to expose Trump…vilify him, mock him etc. the other is RESISTANCE.…… support all opposition to Trump.


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    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      If one doesn't compare Hitler's speeches to Trump's, history will repeat itself.


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  • Sam Sam

    Americans love the spectacle. Mega Sports,Mega Stadiums, Star Power,,,Celebrity 24/7 Robber
    Barron Billionaires all over the place…….Cities gentrified for the wealthy now. Old story
    Greed and Power eventually corrupt and go down in flames though the carnage in its wake is
    stupendous.

    Tina Brown called the Trump clan the Kardasian Camelots. (taboo to talk about the young Barron)
    He is our new Camelot. Teflon Don is the Ultimate
    Penultimate Con…….Barnum and Bailey would be so
    proud. How long will America be en tranced to the
    Trump spectacle? What will it take to break the spell?


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      I believe the next step is always military rule…a despotic overlord, trying to control the angry hordes.

      Making it illegal to collect rainwater is no way to a happy prosperous life. Neither is the kafka/orwell surveillance fascist military super state. That is like sailing the great ship with everyone in chains…it will all go down in the storm. Strange people dont see it


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    This here seems really far out. Fake video?
    "Anonymous – Underground Bases, Clones and False "


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    They need chaos and fear and poverty to bring in the NWO.

    Arnold wasn't born in the US, but he still wants to rule everything.

    Arnold [Schwarzenegger] admits he once expressed admiration for Hitler
    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/arnold-admits-expressed-admiration-hitler-article-1.1177364


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Intel experts worry Trump will go rogue
    01/07/17

    “But the company was upended when Charles [Ivanka’s father-in-law] became engulfed in a nasty family feud over how the business’s proceeds were to be distributed. The fight, which played out in a federal courthouse in Newark, resulted in a plea deal for Charles, who in 2005 was sentenced to two years in prison for tax evasion, witness tampering and making illegal campaign donations. The family infighting was so bitter that, at one point, Charles hired a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, videotaped the encounter and sent the footage to his sister….

    “In August, they were spotted with Wendi Deng, an ex-wife of Rupert Murdoch, on the 453-foot yacht Rising Sun, owned by the entertainment mogul David Geffen. Several weeks later, they were photographed watching the United States Open tennis finals with the art collector Dasha Zhukova, wife of the Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, a member of President Vladimir V. Putin’s inner circle….

    “The president-elect has his own financial entanglements with China: He owns a 30 percent stake in a partnership that owes roughly $950 million to a group of lenders that includes the Bank of China, and one of his biggest tenants at Trump Tower is another state-owned bank, the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China….


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    They're casting the net wide.
    Now the Russians are behind anti-fracking propaganda.

    Report: Kremlin Propaganda Network Attacks Fracking to Boost Russian Energy Interests
    U.S. intel agencies allege Russia Today is key to disinformation efforts abroad
    Jan 6 2016

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/report-kremlin-propaganda-network-attacks-fracking-boost-russian-energy-interests/

    So who bought this blast of propaganda.. the oil and gas industry??


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Meanwhile Obama ..signs us up.

    Media Silent as Obama Signs ‘US Ministry of Truth’ Law to Fund Propaganda Aimed at Americans
    Jan 7 2016

    http://thewashingtonstandard.com/media-silent-obama-signs-us-ministry-truth-law-fund-propaganda-aimed-americans/


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  • or-well or-well

    If yur a "Murkin"
    and younger than dead,
    there's a lifetime of bullshit
    stuffed in yur head
    and there's always a monster
    under the bed,
    usually one
    the color of red.


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  • irhologram

    Navy video of invisible, infrared-revealed, space buggy.

    Air, questions for you!

    Infrared would pick up an additional range of frequencies. I'm trying to understand and have only just now attenpted to arrange spectra in my head. And I'm dyslexic, don't forget. Lol

    Violet is the highest visible spectrum frequency that can be seen…668–789 THz, red is the lowest, 400–484 THz, but the higher the frequency , the lesser the wavelength? So infrared lets us see frequencies up to the microwave level, which is just below radio frequencies in increasing wavelengths.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared

    Also, trying to get a handle on this, infrared wavelengths may show materials of different composition than the eye can see? But I'm not sure how to interpret this chart as to which actual material compositions may be invisible to the human eye?

    http://www2.ups.edu/faculty/hanson/Spectroscopy/IR/IRfrequencies.html

    So…is it possible to know the frequency/wavelength of a particular infrared filmed image just as we can see color in photos…to determine physical composition of this Infrared UFO video?

    https://www.sott.net/article/338768-Chilean-Navy-declassifies-inexplicable-UFO-footage-after-2-year-investigation#comment175494


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      You got me on this, pretty clueless on the 'real' science re frequency
      I will have to read along with you/learn more than my tribal knowledge/experience.

      We/most industry with massive electrical junk do annual infrared termination checks. Basically, loose wiring connections create a 'heat signature'. We find and tighten, saves all manner of glitches/problems, very sensitive, from milliamp to 13800volts

      Since I was looking for 'heat', materials as a concern are more about dis-similarity/problems. They do show different 'heat' colors, but I always thought of it as differing heat exchange properties ie the metals themselves. This may answer this question:

      " But I'm not sure how to interpret this chart as to which actual material compositions may be invisible to the human eye?"

      Think powdered metals, dispersed, heat exchange ability. A cloud of 'invisable' aluminum may 'look' different than another metal under the same UV exposure. That is possible.

      So…is it possible to know the frequency/wavelength of a particular infrared filmed image just as we can see color in photos?
      YES, it is done everyday.

      "…to determine physical composition of this Infrared UFO video?"

      You would need some known 'standards' under same conditions, so my gut says yes. I'm thinking, 'how do they determine metal content/location from satellites?"

      I really should look at your links

      Keep digging. ;)

      I'm digging snow, like a fool, for the dog to go xxxx,…


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      irholo, any chart of wavelength and frequency of the electomagnetic spectrum makes it clear. There is a reason the eye is tuned to the octave it is. The most information for our needs. Infra red is just below visible and the resolution suffers, being longer wavelength. Microwave is longer, and not useful for imaging. Radio has longer still and is good for radio. Snakes can sense infra red. Good for sensing live things, like night vision cameras. Bees have five eyes. They see into the ultraviolet. The idea of detecting composition of substance by infra red color wont work. You would need a spectrometer. The site Sott has interesting things but discrimination is required.


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      • irhologram

        I know Code. I POSTED that in the links. Please open the links.

        The question becomes DO TPTB. KNOW of what substance this UFO is composed…based on my question: Is it POSSIBLE to know the composition through spectral readings on a video? I have never even heard of anyone asking such a question, but to me, analyzing this event, it seemed obvious that its possible that INDEED they do know. Or at least that they CCOULD know if they wished to know.

        Until you open the video, and until you LOOK at the links describing all spectra involved from high frequency to low frequency, from short wave to long wave…and THEN ALSO open the link describing of what chemical or base structure composition may be extant in the wavelengths and frequencies that may be evident in this NAVY footage.

        Before people discuss links, woildn't it be useful to actually OPEN THEM, since I am sure I detailed that what I am seeking to know is…like colors in the visual specrta, is it possible to discern composition from infrared recorded data.

        I know Air is going to do this. He just did't have time. Before commenting further, Code, please understand the question.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          irholo I looked at the links. You ask Is it POSSIBLE to know the composition through spectral readings on a video? the answer is no


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          • irhologram

            And yet would there not be variable settings on the equipment? I notice that this Chilean screen is in English. What is the ACFT notation on the lower left along with altitude?

            Assuming we could believe that based on this video, which shows that the object is not visible to normal digital recording, but can be reliably seen on infrared, and assuming that TPTB certainly must know this, and assuming that infrared cameras can be calibrated for focus, THEN, is it not possible that the composition of invisible, yet obviously, on some level, solid structures, may be subject to spectral readings?

            I believe they can. I am not saying we could take this video down to a lab and find any such data from it. My question, and the supposition I'm edging along here is…would it not be possible to take readings that would identify composition of UFOs that are invisible, and is it possible that future flights can or this flight was on some sort of ID mission?

            Did it ocur to you that these Navy personnel were using infrared in daylight? Did it occur to you why they might be doing this? Did it occur to you why they were alternating between visual digital and infrared in recording the object?


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              irholo, the military will use infrared imaging to target bogeys because engines leave a trail of hot exhaust. You can see the trail looked like a regular cloud until viewed with IR. The military probably spotted something on radar and they were flipping between regular and IR to see what it was. it seems to be invisible in regular light but in fact you can see something. Perhaps the military has sophisticated laser or optical spectrometers on board. I kind of doubt it. Note that mass spectrometry is inherently different, requiring an ionization of the material. The object could be man made


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            • AirSepTech AirSepTech

              It is the geo–lat/long
              It is indeed Chile, approx. 85 mi. SW of Santiago, heading approx. 238deg

              Considering this:

              "The footage was captured on a sophisticated Surveillance & Reconnaissance (SAR) camera in broad daylight. Nearby radar installations could detect the helicopter which captured the amazing footage but nothing else in the vicinity, which rules out low flying airplanes and weather balloons.

              As part of the two-year investigation, multiple agencies were contacted to verify whether any satellites or falling space debris could explain away the phenomenon – they could not. The team assembled to study the footage and investigate the case include astrophysicists, video and image analysts, and aeronautic engineers, however they were unable to explain the object."

              Interesting it looks like 2 conjoined disks, vs oblong

              About all I can imagine is a hot air balloon hitting the burners for a few seconds. An invisible one. With no heat in the balloon. Or some IR proof material for the balloon.
              Or…

              Or a UFO. At least for now.

              Nice teaser! ;)


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              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                AST if the craft was invisible and not detected by radar, how did they know it was there?


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                • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                  Wut?

                  Yes, well, uh-mm, cough(looks at ceiling),,,,er-uh
                  Great Question! :lol:

                  I was going along to get along? well,,,kind of

                  I thought I could see some VERY thin 'for a lack of description' white? steam? cloud? on the EOM
                  view. You made mention, and there were statements of 'barely' visible. All bets off though.

                  Sooo, officially it is a UFO? Unclaimed Flying Object
                  Now, I am officially nutz. Join me?

                  I think someone knows 'exactly' what it is.


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                  • irhologram

                    As to how they knew to shoot infrared on an invisible object, and realizing that the dispelled material was toward the END of the encounter, with filming already underway, (even if, as you suggest [which I did NOT see] they wanted to record a cloud whisp with infrared …ummmm.)

                    THAT precisely is my INFERENCE.

                    That this plane was out looking for invisible objects with infrared. They were SCOUTING for UFOs. So…we don't know how many others they have recorded, but we know they know they can scout them out.

                    THAT's why I was asking if there is anyway to record infrared that can do spectra-specific readings to determine composition.


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      irh I appreciate your passion, truly.

                      Maybe you have/have not caught some of my past posts?
                      USN ATC/OPS specialist
                      FAA certs for ATC/Wx observer
                      SAR/storm/P-3 patrols/helis/more
                      I absolutely have a passion for 'air', from flying models as a kid, to 1000's of hours in it, be gas, liquid, solid. :lol:

                      To my knowledge, there is no device to determine exact elemental composition from a distance. At least from a common use/aircraft mounted type of 'thing?'.

                      To be clear, and the best I can communicate within the limits of my ability, a more simple example: ?

                      Can I get in a chopper, fly along a freeway, and determine the type of vehicles not by shape, but by composition?

                      A Corvette, Ferrari, Caddy, Lambo, ?
                      Steel, iron, aluminum, Ti, glass, fiberglass, carbon fiber, plastics, composites?

                      And then determine, by approximate volume and elemental content, it is a Corvette?
                      I do not know of such a device.

                      Not saying that it does not exist, that is why I ask:
                      How have they determined what type of elements are on planets/asteroids ect.?
                      How detailed/exact is that science.

                      I 'could' take an educated guess as to what the material was that was 'ejected' with enough data and time. That's all I got. :(

                      And I would think someone has done that.


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                    • irhologram

                      AIr To answer your question, this is how they do this, among other ways, probably much more advanced.

                      Planetary mineralogy can be revealed through a variety of remote sensing and in situ investigations that precede any plans for eventual sample return. We briefly review those techniques and focus on the cap- abilities for on-surface in situ examination of Mars, Venus, the Moon, asteroids, and other bodies.
                      ….Since its discovery more than 80 years ago, and elevation 30 years later with the invention of the laser, Raman spectroscopy has evolved into the technique of choice for the in situ exploration of planetary bodies because it addresses a primary goal of mineralogical analysis: determination of structure and composition.
                      http://authors.library.caltech.edu/20171/1/Blacksberg2010p11444Appl_Optics.pdf


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        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          IRH I looked at the vid, it is very interesting.
          But, it is heat that the IR 'sees'. I know you understand that.

          Your question is 'can we know the material'? Not really, for us plebs, we might guess. Maybe the USAF/NASA/JPL has something, IR/Spectrometry/Long-Range/ huge data program.

          2 distinct/different IR technologies.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermography#Limitations_and_disadvantages_of_thermography

          http://www.shopstellarnet.com/porta-libs-system/

          I use both, for different apps.

          In the context of my previous mumbling post–can 'I' guess? yes

          Imagine- a closed cabinet, temp stable. Shoot the door with IR, get a 'so-so' sig of contents.
          Now, open the door, cooling air enters. Different components cool at different rates, and they are different materials. Recorded in live time, I can review, and make a real good guess at what is what, material wise, never seeing it with my eyes.
          Scientific? no. Best guess experience? yes
          All materials exchange heat differently.

          I sure would like to know what that 'ufo' ejected. Gas/metal/ceramic/combos? It cooled at some 'guess-able' rate. :)

          Might explain 'what' the invisible 'thing' is comprised of.

          Disclaimer; been running the plow, this post may be out of order/logic/sense/context with posts previous, but I'm hitting the submit regardless, just want to get it done between runs. :lol:


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  • Byrian420 Byrian420

    MANDELA EFFECT BOB DENVER DIES TWICE

    Bob Denver died September 2, 2005, at Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. He had been receiving cancer treatment and had undergone heart bypass surgery earlier that year, according to Wikipedia. But he just died again?


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  • Byrian420 Byrian420

    MANDELA EFFECTED SCRIPTURES

    Genesis 31:37

    37 whereas thou hast searched all my STUFF, what hast thou found of all my household STUFF? set it here before my brethern and thy brethern, that they may judge betwixt us both.

    STUFF is a modern day word, it would never be in the KJV but it is now.


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  • Byrian420 Byrian420

    MANDELA EFFECTED SCRIPTURES

    Luke 21:20 Likewise aslo the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new TESTAMENT in my blood, which is shed for you.

    TESTAMENT SHOULD BE COVENANT


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  • freebywill

    10 mins | Pipelines Besides DAPL That Need Our Attention | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrfbIOP9nvc


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  • freebywill

    California Aims to Kick Coal-Fired Electricity Habit by 2026 http://courthousenews.com/california-aims-to-kick-coal-fired-electricity-habit-by-2026/

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (CN) – Hoping to cement California’s “global role” on climate-change policy and push it toward cleaner energy, a state lawmaker wants to bar electric utilities from buying and selling coal-generated energy by 2026.

    Bay Area Democrat Marc Levine’s clean-energy proposal would require California electricity providers to stop procuring coal-fired energy incrementally, and end the use of coal entirely by 2026.

    Levine says Assembly Bill 79 is an extension of California’s efforts under Gov. Jerry Brown to reduce the state’s carbon footprint and expand its policies to fight climate change.


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  • freebywill

    Exxon predicts 25% rise in energy demand http://climatenewsnetwork.net/exxon-energy-demand-increase-2040/

    ExxonMobil is the largest of the world’s big oil companies, the supermajors. Up to the end of 2016, Rex Tillerson, who has been nominated by US President-elect Donald Trump as his Secretary of State, was Exxon’s chairman and CEO.

    In this year’s annual Outlook for Energy, a look-ahead to 2040, Exxon says: “Over the next 25 years, growing economies and an expanding middle class will mean better living standards for billions, through increased access to better education and health care as well as new homes, appliances and cars. This means the world will need more energy, even with significant efficiency gains.”

    With world population expected to grow by 1.8 billion people to a total of 9bn by 2040, the company believes global energy demand will increase by 25% – and that India and China together will account for 45% of that increase.

    Exxon expects overall global energy demand for transport will also rise by 25%, but says commercial transport energy consumption will be 50% higher than today’s.


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  • Byrian420 Byrian420

    FASTFOODGATE: CHILD SACRIFICES EXPOSDED #PIZZAGATE

    https://youtu.be/P0FnlAkaxF4


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  • irhologram

    DHS COUP!!! Unbelievable!

    Oh, Geez. DHS just took over elections! Now I get the reason for all this drama, the end game, and the reason for the Ft. Lauderdale distraction Friday when this announcement was made.

    Quote: Citing increasingly sophisticated cyber bad actors and an election infrastructure that’s ‘vital to our national interests’, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson announced Friday that he’s designating U.S. election systems critical infrastructure…”
    [Also known as: “we’re taking over.”]

    …“Such a change [in who controls the US election process] does not require presidential action [or Congressional approval], and only requires the secretary [of DHS] to first consult with the assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism.”

    Swell.

    Will Trump overturn it?

    Quote: Obama is basically challenging him to do it—which would create one more firestorm in the press directed at Trump.
    “See, the new president just stopped the DHS from protecting our sacred free elections. Trump is exhibiting more treasonous cooperation with his Russian masters…he’s leaving the door wide open for their secret invasion against our liberties…”

    Too slick!!

    Cont!


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