Fox News: Radioactive wave from Fukushima nears US… Is it safe? Expert: Risk of cancers or genetic effects ‘not zero’ for people on West Coast; Ongoing leaks increase the odds

Published: November 29th, 2013 at 10:44 am ET
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Fox News, Nov. 29, 2013: Is it safe? Radioactive Japanese wave nears US [...] radioactive water from the plant nears the West Coast of North America — the water is expected to hit in 2014 — can we be sure it’s safe? The nuclear reactor continues to leak radioactive water due to poor management, while Japanese subcontractors at the plant have admitted they intentionally under-reported radiation [...] Fukushima locals also claim they’re seeing cancer at higher rates and the Japanese government is covering up the scale of the problem. [...] The [EPA] does not monitor radiation levels at sea, however, and in a statement pointed to the International Atomic Energy Agency, which relies on Japanese government data. [...] Doug Dasher, who studies radioecology at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, said it remains possible that there will be minor effects for people on the U.S. West Coast [...] Additional leakage from Fukushima could increase the odds, he said. [...] Scientists also warn that if an another earthquake or other natural disaster occurs while the Fukushima nuclear plant is still being decommissioned, that could have catastrophic consequences.

Doug Dasher, University of Alaska Fairbanks: “No acute effects resulting in mortality or damage to organs … would be expected [...] Longer term chronic effects, cancer or genetic effects… odds are statistically low, if the concentrations in the models remain within the projections, (but) cannot be said to be zero. [...] The estimates (of radiation) vary substantially and do not, at least so far, account for the continued leakage from the Fukushima site to the marine environment.”

FDA spokeswoman Theresa Eisenman: “We are actively watching for information that could implicate U.S. food and are always ready to take further action.”

Gilbert Ross, executive director of the American Council on Science and Health: “There should be no concern among Americans, of any age or location.”

See also: Study: High concentrations of Fukushima radioactive material will reach west coast of North America -- "Entire coast" to be affected from Alaska to Mexico -- "Can negatively affect human life for decades... should raise concern" (MODEL)

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48 comments to Fox News: Radioactive wave from Fukushima nears US… Is it safe? Expert: Risk of cancers or genetic effects ‘not zero’ for people on West Coast; Ongoing leaks increase the odds

  • Canuck1

    Is it safe to put 1 bullet in a chamber spin aim and shoot?


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    • It could be stated that it's 'safer' than 2 bullets.

      ;) That's the Nuclear Industry's logic anyway.


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      • m a x l i

        The nuclear industry's stance on playing russian roulette is something like:

        •Firstly, there are other risks like car accidents, smoking etc. That's why playing russian roulette is safe.
        •Secondly, if you are afraid of playing russian roulette, you might die of a heart attack, before you pull the trigger. If you aren't afraid, smile and pull the trigger happily, it is safe.
        •Thirdly, there are bullets flying around anyway. So, you why not pull the trigger? It is safe.

        Three good reasons why we all should play russian roulette, don't you think?


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        • tooktheredpill tooktheredpill

          Hi m a x i i.

          Having sat through a compulsory RADON workshop at work explaining how the number's in our office (which I've worked in for over a decade…WITH NO WINDOWS OR VENTILATIION were 'unusually high') and listening to the "BANANA/AIRLINE" comparisons while they immediately installed a sump pump THAT FOLLOWING WEEKEND!! I could now, really actually see a nuke rep using these arguments in a real game of RR and feeling 'really chuffed' with himself as to how he'd 'worded' the argument as he put the gun to his own head. :-(

          +100000

          (what really freaked me was how happy all my colleagues were with 'his' explanation as they had 'no idea' about anything to do with radiation and he must know what he's talking about…but only after I voiced my concern's in front of the meeting and explained the decay chain of natural uranium did they then start to see that he hadn't quite explained the whole truth!!)


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        • Thank you for your comedic responses to this propaganda by Slick Fox News. My head nearly exploded when I read,:

          “There should be no concern among Americans, of any age or location,” Gilbert Ross, executive director of the American Council on Science and Health, told FoxNews.com.

          “If you want to list health concerns that Americans should worry about, start with the real killers — drunk driving and smoking,” Ross said.

          “If you went down a list of things people really should worry about, you would never even get to a concern about radiation leakage from Fukushima.”

          I must refrain from further response, because suggesting that these reporters play Russian Roulette probably falls within the no insulting, rude or hateful comments clause on news.


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    • yah, nukers say the baseline is 1 bullet, so 2 bullets is not that bad.


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  • weeman

    EPA does not monitor radiation levels at sea? What do you mean, are you telling me the oceans are not part of the environment .
    Please note it is a agency and their charter is manipulated by higher powers that control them, that is what a agency is.
    You would think that they would be taking a double look considering that, they admit all estimates do not include on going radiation leaks from plant, for last two and a half years and all estimates are from the first couple of weeks.
    Make no sense, pour five gallons of gas in a creek and the EPA will put you in jail, poison a ocean and it is not a problem. Waste of tax money.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "‘not zero’"
    There is a young child in our family..that has recently learned the term..'shut-up' in daycare.
    When told that it is wrong to say..
    She says.."Not shut up"…as an antithesis to shut up.

    Not zero..not shut up.
    The same infantile deflection.


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  • markww markww

    There is radiation in the water look what us happening along the western coast line fish and mammals dying or coming to the seas shore for help or rescue or fleeing radiation in the Pacific

    MARKWW


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  • Grampybone Grampybone

    "Gilbert Ross, executive director of the American Council on Science and Health: “There should be no concern among Americans, of any age or location.”

    "We and I and Grampybone know when you been lyin' through the teeth!" The concern for isotope exposure for West Coast populations has already been confirmed by Radnet.org and hundreds of other tests conducted on fission anomaly particles such as Sulfur 35 showing up in Kelp. Plankton feed on kelp and carry the isotope through the cardiac systems of the worlds oceans.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I believe so..MarkWW.
    What kind of person would want these things to be?
    How can these thoughts escape our hearts and mouths ..if we were not truly concerned?


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  • WWJD WWJD

    FDA spokeswoman Theresa Eisenman: “We are actively watching for information that could implicate U.S. food and are always ready to take further action.”

    So they say they are watching, but admit that they do not test the water… which means they are NOT WATCHING! So if they see anything (from NOT WATCHING) they will take FURTHER ACTION which again equals doing NOTHING!

    Just AMAZING! :(


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  • Again there is NO MENTION of bio-accumulation…

    or,
    the affects on other lifeforms,

    or,
    the affects on ecosystems because of the affects on those lifeforms,

    and/or,
    any of the other insidious affects of ongoing radiation contamination that will, in turn, affect people.

    IMO – The constant usage of the word 'leak' is a clear misdirection.

    The words GUSH or SPEW used in conjunction with CONTINUOUS seem to be a more realistic choice of words.
    ___________

    ;)

    Famous last words:
    “There should be no concern among Americans, of any age or location.”
    – Gilbert Ross

    “The Titanic is unsinkable.”
    – Thomas Andrews naval architect.
    (Andrews was among those lost during the sinking.)

    1. Those aboard Titanic were ill-prepared for such an emergency.
    2. …ships were seen as largely unsinkable…
    3. The crew had not been trained adequately…
    4. …Third-class passengers were largely left to fend for themselves

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic

    Sound familiar?


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  • jec jec

    Dear Mr. Gilbert Ross, so "no concern" means no disease from the radiation, correct? So you will pay for the medical care for all children on the West Coast of the USA with thyroid cancer? Or leukemia? Or for increases in diabetes?? Glad to know you are such an expert you can help fund the care for our children with thyroid cancer caused by radiation. Were you aware there is one type of thyroid cancer that has a fingerprint which shows its "radiation" caused? So easy to now determine who should be blamed for the disease. Identifying causes of the other disease increase can not be far behind either! Anyone who is an Executive Director of an organization who makes blanket statements like you have must have DEEP pockets. Good thing you are not living in Italy..they jail for misleading comments…


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  • Nick

    EPA?

    Executive Pleasing Assosciation

    Executive Pay Awareness

    Eventually Pleasing Authority

    Oh yeah, it's supposed to be an agency protecting special interests (I mean the poilitical environment).

    'nuff said.

    Is it safe?

    Nope.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Maybe the us alpha-bet crew hasn't seen this…

    Chernobyl Database

    http://chernobyldatabase.com/tag/bioaccumulation/

    It's a hint of the future…


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  • 2005, a critical piece in the magazine Mother Jones[25]reported that the ACHSH's current medical director,[26]Gilbert Ross, had served time in a federal prison camp and had his medical license revoked for Medicare fraud. The ACHSH responded with an article on its website stating that Dr. Ross was remorseful for the role he played in the scam.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Council_on_Science_and_Health

    Also they do not report where they get funding and there is the perception by some that this organization is a mouthpiece for big business. Read more at link above.


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    • Mack Mack

      Excellent find, Mark.

      Here's what else they say about the "American Council on Science and Health" —>

      "When American corporations come up against inconvenient science, say, a study showing that mercury in fish can damage a developing fetus, or that a blockbuster drug has nasty side effects, they call in the American Council on Science and Health (ACSH). Industry-funded ACSH is the most aggressive debunker of pesky research reports emanating from government and academia."

      Unbelievable.

      What this tells me is that TPTB are worried enough about radiation cancers from Fukushima that they've hired probably the only 'council' that would say everything will be A-OK.

      The way I see it, this tells me that everything is far from OK.

      http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2005/11/paging-dr-ross


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      • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

        Indeed GE, Pfizer & Kraft are scared & donate to the ACSH. When you learn that even Gerber funds this group, we truly need to be scared about what they know.

        (List of donors at bottom of page) ACSH receives 76 percent of its funding from corporations and corporate funders, and 17 percent of its funding from private foundations, according to Congressional Quarterly's Public Interest Profiles.

        http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/ACSH-Koop.htm


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        • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

          When ACSH claims to offer "peer reviewed" scientific information, therefore, the public deserves to know that its peer review process is totally different from that of a reputable medical or scientific journal. "The ACSH review is done by members of its own advisory
          committee," Jacobson says, "all of whom, by definition, support the organization's anti-regulatory, pro-business stance."

          The seventeen-member ACSH board of directors also includes representatives from two PR and advertising firms: Albert Nickel of Lyons Lavey Nickel Swift (their motto: "We change perceptions"), and Lorraine Thelian of Ketchum Communications.

          Thelian is a Ketchum senior partner and director of its Washington, D.C. office, which handles the bulk of the firm's "environmental PR work" on behalf of clients including Dow Chemical, the Aspirin Foundation of America, Bristol Myers Squibb, the American Automobile Manufacturers Association, the Consumer Aerosol Products Council, the National Pharmaceutical Council, the North American Insulation Manufacturers Association, and the American Industrial Health Council, another industry-funded group that lobbies against what it considers "excessive" regulation of carcinogens. Ketchum boasts that the D.C. office "has dealt with issues ranging from regulation of toxins, global climate change, electricity deregulation, nuclear energy, product and chemical contamination, and agricultural chemicals and Superfund sites, to name but a few."


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  • Sparky Sparky

    Wow, what a great find Mark! I checked out the hotlink. What a scummy industry mouthpiece posing as a legitimate npo! Their purported mission is "…to add reason and balance to debates about public health issues and bring common sense scientific views to the public." What a joke! They manage to twist arguments and promote industry-funded "research" to foster doubt regarding every major, well-documented health threat–all to protect indu$try, rather than the public. And what legitimate npo has the same president (Dr. Elizabeth Whalen) for 35 years?? Answer: None!! Yep, it appears that Ross had just the right (criminal) credentials to serve as their ED. There must be a special place in Hell for these types, right next to TEPCO and other nuclear execs. Fox just needed to do a simple web search on their subjects/sources before putting this out as accurate, unbiased reporting. Joke reporting. Sadly, many people will believe it.


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    • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

      In a 1997 interview, Whelan explained that she was already being called a "paid liar for industry," so she figured she might as well go ahead and take industry money without restrictions.

      ACSH board chairman A. Alan Moghissi. A former official with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Moghissi characterizes environmentalism as a belief that "members of endangered species deserve protection and that, because there are billions of humans, humanity does not qualify for protection."

      As an "expert on risk assessment," Moghissi appears regularly on rosters of industry- supported "expert panels" that work to undermine environmental regulations. He serves on the advisory board of numerous anti-environmental organizations and right-wing "think tanks," including the American Policy Center's "EPA Watch," the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, the Advancement of Sound Science Coalition, and the National Wilderness Institute, a "wise use" anti-environmental organization that calls for abolition of the Endangered Species Act.

      "Some talented scientists may not understand that ACSH uses a veneer of science to obscure its anti-regulatory, pro-business position," says Michael Jacobson of the Center for Science in the Public Interest.


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  • pkjn

    Fukushima getting worse
    November 25, 2013 freepress.org

    The whole world is trying to watch….so Tokyo Electric has complained that the media is actually photographing their operations! With a state secrets act on its way, we anticipate a formal crackdown. Tokyo Electric wants to open four other reactors in Japan and pursues overseas investments while toying with the fate of the Earth at Fukushima.

    Fukushima radiation has been confirmed off the coast of Alaska, & will soon be in California. Reports from the Pacific of the disappearance of sardines and salmon, the death of California sea lion pups, a horrible plague among starfish off the northwest coast of the US, and much more, remind us how little we know about the effects of pouring gargantuan quantities of radiation into the ocean.

    And that the survival of human life on our planet has never been more threatened.
    http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/7/2013/1996


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  • ftlt

    From Fox = """while the Fukushima nuclear plant is still being decommissioned""" Huh??? How???


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  • Canada traditionally follows on the coat tails of US gov although Pierre Trudeau former Canuck PM did a piroette behind Nixon? in the 60's. Better times for Canada. Sad usa is not the bastion of freedom it says it is. Massive spying on citizens against your constitution and the whistleblowers get huge jail sentences and no radiation monitoring no labelling of gmo products huge artificial support of nuclear gmo clamp down on free speech take the guns away search in the name of terrorists underground drug money financing illegal cia operations the war on drugs tobacco booze legal and on and on and on shipping jobs and pollution to china and the world economy bringing wallmart mcjobs to you and me. We are being lied to about more then fukushima. But I do not need an expert to tell me what i should or should not be worried about. Expert means paid salesman. I feel everyone is drugged and unaware but when they fail to test pacific fish i know something is wrong. I dont know what the answer is but thank God some of us are awake.


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    • We Not They Finally

      YES, do something different in Canada! Good luck! If you believe that the U.S. and Canada are different, then by all means, do it differently in Canada! You're not American. You're Canadian. Lobby to do something different, if you can.


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  • Large Mass of Possibly Radioactive Flotsam Spotted in Hawaii, aka We Killed the Pacific

    Read the article below. They have found massive amounts of debris like this in Hawaiian waters, stretching in lines for miles. From the Kauai Newspaper Article–"the line was between 10 and 20 yards wide, up to two miles long"

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013/11/possibly-radioactive-japanese-trash.html


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  • Dugisme Dugisme

    Anybody been able to test fog that rolls in off the sea? And how much of this stuff comes ashore in the rain? Now for the big uneducated question, does radioactive phytoplankton produce radioactive oxygen? Replace with irradiated if that is correct. There are studies, but I don't quite get what they are saying.

    Or do the phytoplankton just die. Followed by zooplankton, followed by little fish, followed by big fish, followed by whales and other aquatic mammals, followed by hey, where did everybody go?

    First though, what about the fog? It's that time of year again.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      @Dugisme: nothing like this has ever occurred in history, so no studies will be found. I'd think there are studies in how much saline is transfer ashore from misting. If you can find such research materials, it wouldn't be too difficult to extrapolate how much radiation is moved onshore and how far it travels through this mechanism. A combination of oceanography and meteorology sciences would likely be the parent disciplines that address this phenomena. You should definitely look into it…


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      • Dugisme Dugisme

        The studies I skimmed had to do with seeds and tissue samples. For the irradiated oxygen I mean. Too many links to check very quickly so I took shot. Thanks for the reply. :)


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      • nedlifromvermont

        I think the best science on ocean to land transfer was done in the 60's and 70's for contamination which flowed from Sellafield, England into the Irish Sea (world's most contaminated ocean) until now … and the radioactive hot particles traveled up to two miles inland from ocean spray, but most of the deposition occurred within the first mile inland from the coast … fog would likely be another vector … just amazing how this radioactive debris, in microscopic form, can move around the system … early studies from the radioactive waste pond at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, continued to amaze the health physicists or radiation biologists, or whatever they call themselves … sorry, no links, just free form from the reading I've been doing these last several years …

        peace to all the 'newsers!


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    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      Oh Dugis… Please don't worry about numbers or studies — they won't tell us because they are off the scale now into irrelevance. Not to worry. It is beyond regular science now. Noone knows who, for how long, how many will survive for however long. Our ignorance and ego driven hubris has led us into a new world of unanswerable chimerae.


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  • We Not They Finally

    So we presuppose that every person adversely affected is "not zero"? Then what happens when you add up the percentage of people who are "not zero"? 1%? 7%? 25%? What? It doesn't matter just so long as you get to call it "not zero"?


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  • Michael V.B. Michael Van Broekhoven

    It's already happening: Hazmat situation falling from US skies already: EnviroReporter reports from Death Valley this week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3UZP3Ol180

    And (already posted this link in other comments, but…), if it is any indication for what's on it's way to the US, Mexican and Canadian coasts, the data for extreme seaweed contamination is apparently being suppressed, and significantly radioactive food remains for sale in Japan. My tests from last night:

    http://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2013/11/29/my-travel-collection-of-japanese-seaweeds-an-overview-with-10-minute-cpm-averages/


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  • rjnvpn

    This matter of radiation from Fukashima pouring
    into the oceans is so out-of-their control. All these so-called "experts" can do is make the sheeple feel better…….otherwise, they're utterly powerless.


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