TV: Scientists have found nuclear waste off San Diego coast — Fukushima’s problems now being felt in our local ecosystem — Professor most worried about finding ‘pools’ of cesium — “Time will tell how this plays out” (VIDEO)

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ABC San Diego, Feb. 3, 2014 –Steve Atkinson, 10 News: There continues to be serious concerns about whether radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster has reached our shores.

Fox 5 San Diego, Feb. 3, 2014 (Emphasis Added):

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52 comments to TV: Scientists have found nuclear waste off San Diego coast — Fukushima’s problems now being felt in our local ecosystem — Professor most worried about finding ‘pools’ of cesium — “Time will tell how this plays out” (VIDEO)

  • Machomaker Machomaker

    Biochimie. 2006 Nov;88(11):1773-85. Epub 2006 Sep 18.

    Iodine transfers in the coastal marine environment: the key role of brown algae and of their vanadium-dependent haloperoxidases.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17007992
    Leblanc C, Colin C, Cosse A, Delage L, La Barre S, Morin P, Fiévet B, Voiseux C, Ambroise Y, Verhaeghe E, Amouroux D, Donard O, Tessier E, Potin P.

    From a radioecological viewpoint, iodine-129 (129I, half-life of 1.6 x 10(7) years) is one of the most persistent radionuclide released from nuclear facilities into the environment.


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  • Machomaker Machomaker

    Translocation of 14C in Macrocystis pyrifera (Giant Kelp)
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1091922/?tool=pmcentrez&report=abstract

    Christopher S. Lobban

    Abstract

    The pattern of import and export of 14C-labeled assimilates in Macrocystis pyrifera (L.) C. A. Agardh in southern California was studied by labeling single blades on fronds, in situ, with [14C]NaHCO3 for 24 hours. The pattern was found to be similar to that known in dicotyledons: actively growing tissue imported and did not export. As a blade reached maturity it began to export, at first only acropetally to the apex which formed it, later also down the frond to sporophylls and frond initials at the base of the frond, and into the apical regions of juvenile fronds; finally there was a phase of declining export, late in the life of the blade, when transport was only downward. Young fronds imported from older fronds until they were approximately 3 meters long, by which time they had developed mature, upward exporting blades. No translocation was found from a younger frond to an older frond, nor was there transport upward from a blade on a frond lacking the apical region.


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    • Daisy207

      HUUHHHHH – what does carbon 14 have to do with the price of eggs. They obviously didn't have the equipment to measure any thing else. This is hardly an indicator parameter for anything related to the nuclear accident or what is reaching the west coast. I hope this guy did not get paid for this crap. How about whether or not Cs, Sr Pu or tritium, ETC., CAN KILL IT.


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      • Socrates

        129I is released by nuclear reactors and stays around for a long, long time. It maybe a significant health risk. The 14C is a good tracer.

        These are both pre-Fukushima articles. But it amazes that Sr, Pu, and tritium levels are not known in San Diego kelp. General Atomic has research reactor and SONGS is up north 45 miles. The Navy has nuclear class ships in the harbor.

        They have not been keen on knowing in the past. As with San Francisco, there might be unpleasant surprises and inconvenient truths.


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  • Wooster

    And when the contamination does reach levels that are harmful to health, then what?

    Or do they really believe that this contamination will be continually diluted by an increasingly contaminated ocean?


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      thanks, Wooster, for the ON TOPIC post! I'm sitting back these last few days just watching ENENEWS getting bombed with OFF TOPIC posts. It's obvious they couldn't outright destroy this site, so they sent-up a batch of co-intel to slide every article OFF TOPIC (and keep them OT). Amazing thing is, everyone stood by and let it happen without a peep…


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      • bo bo

        If you mention it, it ivites the thread to slide even further off topic.
        My new motto is – don't mention, just keep reporting offenders


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          you need to understand something, bo, admin cannot be encumbered with every post that's not compliant with posting protocol. They, too, have a life and must also deal with the more important issue of keeping this site up-and-running. Therefore, it's up to each of us to do our part. That not only includes following the rules ourselves, but also flagging others who stray from them. Otherwise, the alternative is a moderated site. Such sites are 'clean' but left to the personal judgement of the individual(s) who are tasked with the process of deciding what is and isn't acceptable for posting. Is that what people want; to be left to the mercy of someone who may decide they don't like what you have to say?! The administrator(s) of this site have been gracious enough to require only a few rules for posting. It doesn't get better than that!!! We have a rare kind of freedom to express ourselves, on this site. Why then, are we so ready to risk having our words drowned-out in a cacophony of 'noise'?! Just know this: if the anti-nuke element cannot weather the truth of our words, they can just as easily ensure that those words are lost to others within a combination of off-topic posts. This site's administration did everything to allow us the means of free expression. It only remains a matter of doing so in the proper context…


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          • bo bo

            Thanks aftershock,great points and great reminders.
            I'm guilty often of ranting, lots of room for improvement.


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            • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

              we're all guilty of bending the rules, bo. The only difference between some of us and 'others', is if we blatantly make a habit of doing so. I've noticed that some 'members' of this site, take shameless pleasure in trashing every article with OT posts. Some of these people will pretend they're staying on-topic, with the use of opening statements that relate to the subject at hand. Then you'll notice, they append comments and links that totally abandon the subject at hand. These are what I call opportunists; (im)posters who are only interested in using the site to push their agenda. Then there are those who feel it's open season on this site and think nothing of blasting-away with OT posts. They're obvious and easily dealt with. Either way, it's time for all of those who value ENENEWS to make an effort at tightening-up our collective behavior. In time, all members – new and old – will come to accept the value in keeping things real. Those who refuse to respect admin's posting protocol (rules) will become more visible. They have a more difficult time with these attempts to undermine the character of this site. Just remember. A hundred years from now, ENENEWS will be the go-to record of what's happening today. Let's assure those future historians and analysts, we were not the yelping dogs that the pro-nuke crowd would have others believe…


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        • Socrates

          I agree that there should be both "materiality" – comments being within the issues – and "relevancy" – logically tending to prove or disprove the issue (s) presented by the enenews article posted.

          To be avoided are politics, religion and ad hominem attacks.

          I hate to report the above because of my own tendencies to rant, yet ideas flow better without violating the rules. I do not want to associated with violence or religious fundamentalism. Nor do I wish to argue for argument's, I.e., to be "right." This site is too important to allow people to break these rules.


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          • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

            precisely, Socrates. We all need to do our part in politely nudging each other, when we're initiating OT comments/posts. This means, no one should be using forums and/or article/topics to initiate (that means "to start" for some of you) any topic that's not relevant to the forum and/or article/topic. It's fine to respond to someone's commentary, but such responses should not be used as excuse to start winging Frisbee's all about! Otherwise, the rat-turds need only pretend an interest in the forum/article/topic, to then slide every discussion into the toilet. Is that what we want, to see the good efforts of others and ourselves left steaming with all the other shit on the Internet?! I've been on this network for far too many decades to know, this can easily happen! So, I'm asking (for now, kindly pleading) all those who care about cleaning-up what's left of this precious planet, take it upon yourself to both demonstrate good posting etiquette, while also politely informing fellow warriors to "KEEP IT IN REAL!!!" Simply remind others to "…refrain from starting off-topic posts", and then direct them to where their post will be better received. Just know, banning an egregious account/(im)poster does not prevent the same rat-turd from using other machines (IPs) and returning! Therefore, it's up to each of us to join admin in the ceaseless effort to preserve the integrity of this awesome website…


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            • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

              There needs to be controls in place to allow the democratic process to work. Such as Off-Topic buttons for each post so people can "vote" an off-topic response closed; not gone, closed. Likes, dislikes, delete, edit, etc. There's many ways to help the situation other than a Report button.


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              • or-well

                re: off-topic…my thoughts will be in the Off Topic Forum, as soon as I can type them that is.


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              • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                agreed Sykewar. I've not programmed code for web sites for many years, so I can't say how easy it'd be to followup on your suggestions. But I do like the "like/dislike" buttons that some sights feature. Of course, you'd have to ensure against 'buddy-blocking'. That's where a handful of rat-turds band-together and target a lone individual, thereby surreptitiously controlling the 'tone' of the discussion/blogs. If there was a way to limit, or better-yet, show who was voting yay-or-nay on an individual post, then you'd have a model means for adding quick feedback. AND…I'd really love to see an OT button! BTW. I rarely use REPORT COMMENT. I figure, admin has enough on their plate without me unduly adding to their indigestion. I'll use it to flag cases of harassment (admin's legally obligated to stop members from being harassed). But other than that, I rarely use it…


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    • Several labs have said that they are going to start testing seaweed…

      Radioactive Seaweed Found With 40,000,000 Bq per Kilogram – Seaweed Put Into Many Food Products; via @AGreenRoad
      http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/04/radioactive-seaweed-found-with-40000000.html


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    • sayonara kitty sayonara kitty

      @wooster, basically your right, this article was printed on the front page of san diegos UT paper, (below the fold).
      http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/feb/02/japan-nuclear-radiationSDSU/
      "Manley published a scientific paper on his findings that stirred public concern, even though he said that the material didn’t appear to pose a health threat."
      says he found iodine 131 less than a month after 3/11 in san diegos kelp


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    • AlexfromNB

      Radionuclides don't "dilute", they just become more widespread and accumulate in the local environment. One of my most poigniant questions is that when will seaside dwellers get the message that remaining in those locales are no longer safe and abandon their homes for safer, more secure places eastward?


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  • atomicistheword

    Dilution only works with chemicals & even then there are limits. Since human made atomic radiation has a huge half-life, you cannot treat it as a dilution. Any amount is potentially dangerous. There is NO SAFE LIMIT OF CONTAMINATION.

    Of course after 300 years Cesium ceases to be of concern, but it's not just Cesium is it?


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  • zogerke zogerke

    <Cesium across most of the coast of the Americas>
    IMO Means there is a cache of information documenting radioactive contamination in Atlantic and Pacific oceans.

    They have the information.

    It is not being released.


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    • infounderload infounderload

      Bingo zogerke. This is the smoking gun of the insidious, widespread coverup and discounting of the very real health dangers everyone is being exposed to. People are not being told what they can do to protect themselves and their children.


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  • earthsmith

    The only thing diluted are the so-called experts brains we have to deal with. Diluted with grant money!
    Here is how I see it… They do their testing state that ALL radiation is within safe limits(this is complex stuff and most people have a hard time grasping its reality) and low and behold there is no more funding due to budgetary constraints but don't worry we already tested so you are safe.
    Where is the reset button on these genocide machines?


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  • Nick

    Data to be with held due to fears of a tipping point, that point when enough humans have been alerted (maybe via FB?) that social unrest snowballs.

    Next question.


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  • sundowner

    Hi
    Here in UK the BBC both online and on the TV are covering a story from the World Health Organization scientists that the globe is facing a "tidal wave" of cancer, reaching 24 million a year by 2035 from smoking, obesity, drinking and what for it radiation, both from the sun and medical scans. Not a single referance to the ongoing CONTAMINATION from Fukushima around the planet, in fact I think it's fair to say we have a news blackout here in the UK from the MSM.


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  • earthsmith

    "Time will tell how this plays out"
    You don't say huh.
    Kind of like time will tell when the next earthquake,faulty design, oe fudge data lets the next NPP POP!


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  • Nick

    Nick
    February 4, 2014 at 9:13 am Log in to Reply
    Just heard that the WHO wants us to focus on obesity, smoking, third hand smoke, not a word about Fukushima.

    Obfuscate.

    posted from another thread note time stamp.

    This is an example of critical mass picking up, Fukushima will be going viral any minute now.

    Watch


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  • Socrates

    Toxicologists and epidemiologists need funding. I spoke to Joseph Mangano about repeating the tooth fairy studies to monitor 90Sr in children's discarded baby teeth to determine how much is taken up into bones of children by drinking milk and nursing. Infants and children require large amounts of calcium. The 90Sr is mistaken for calcium and may cause leukemia or bone cancer.

    Private funding of tests in Canada post Fukushima revealed increases. Trends of data are very important. The fairy tooth studies are underway in Japan. We need to do these studies here in milk, as well as to monitor the kelp, another canary in the coal mine. JFk was convinced by the tooth fairy studies to ban testing. Repeating the studies might result in banning nuclear energy.


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      • Socrates

        Thanks.

        I'm brushing up.on my biophysics. Laboratory analysis is critical to forensics. I've seen uranium analysis of children's fingernails.

        Toxicology for determining effective doses followed by epidemiological studies…

        Alice Stewart's studies on pelvic x-rays and fetal development were published in 1956.

        One prenatal pelvic x-ray doubled or tripled the risk of leukemia. The radiologists were so angry, they shunned her for years.

        What starts as heresy becomes generally accepted science.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    "banning nuclear energy." Must be the entire world's priority! I hope Iranians are listening and all the other countries now being sold Nuclear shit on a stick!


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    • Socrates

      Obe,

      Lots of earthquakes in Iran. Also, lots of uranium ore. Another disaster in the making. But oil can run out and there is power and "prestige" in being nuclear. Medical uses are legitimate, and would compete with France's virtual monopoly in that area.

      The real reasons are never told to us sheeple….


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  • Same old tired propaganda about cause of increase in infant death rate after Fuku.

    Same old for increase in thyroid problems and cancers..

    Same old for increasing childhood leukemia and cancers…

    Same old for increasing diabetes, genetic problems, birth defects…

    Same old.. same old…

    Pandora's box of horrors has been opened.


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  • Socrates

    In regard to 137Cs in the ocean or elsewhere, everyone should listen to Steven Starr's excellent presentations at the Helen Caldicott Foundation last year.

    This is NOT a naturally occurring radionuclide for the most part. The body concentrates it in several organs and tissues such as heart muscle. It appears to concentrate in the thyroid to some extent.

    The Chernobyl studies are shunned by the nuclear industry because of revelations the 134/137Cs are way worse than we are told.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    CALIFORNIA, OREGON, WASHINGTON, CANADA, ALASKA

    The nuclear radiation is increasing and spreading.


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  • Ontological Ontological

    They found Cesium in San Diago…wooo spin…to stay on topic when the bushtit is slid further down the rabbit hole each report. And thanks for sliding me unless I get first, for innuendoes, and for being so excepting of new theory. Grow the hell up kindergarteners. Get real, and JOIN the HUMAN race, not the sci zombie social hour.


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  • Nick

    Cesium. 134/137

    Considered part of the background radiation by experts worldwide.

    All organisms have to deal with this crap so get used to it.

    Yeah, I know it may contribute to your ill health, but c'est la vie.

    When humans realize that NOT ONE atom of cesium 134/137 is okay, then maybe we'll get somewhere.

    Learn how bioaccumulation works. Feel the hairs rise on the back of your neck?

    Awake yet California?


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  • Sickputer

    Look at that big smile on Jaime Chambers face as he holds up a mass of contaminated seaweed. He might as well be saying: "50,000 Japanese children in Fukushima have thyroid cancer, but first a word from our Fox5 sponsor GE-Hitachi!"

    Your smile may turn upside down when your liver or bone marrow turns septic from Strontium-90. Tested that mass of seaweed in your hand for that? Nope!


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  • No Immediate Danger No Immediate Danger

    "Things are linked a little bit more closely than sometimes we would like to think."

    What's this "we" language, doc? I like thinking that things are linked closely together; why don't you like to think that?

    Wait, wait. I know the answer to that one. Never mind.


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  • Ontological Ontological

    Our entire universe is "linked".


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Cesium had already been found in plankton east of Hawaii..

    "The researchers collected plankton at 10 points in the Pacific from off Hokkaido to Guam between January and February 2012.

    They detected cesium-134 in plankton at all 10 points. The density of radioactive cesium was the highest at 8.2 to 10.5 becquerels per kilogram in samples collected from waters around 25 degrees north latitude and 150 degrees east longitude. The lowest concentration at any of the 10 points was 1.9 becquerels per kilogram.

    The density of cesium in seawater was highest in waters at around latitude 36 to 40 degrees north, the team said."

    Kyodo: Highest levels of Fukushima contamination in plankton already east of Hawaii? (MAPS)

    http://enenews.com/kyodo-highest-levels-of-fukushima-contamination-already-east-of-hawaii

    Right close by…


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Pooling..I don't think so..

    Reuters: Cesium remains dispersed throughout water column “from the surface to the ocean floor”
    May 29 2012

    http://enenews.com/reuters-cesium-remains-dispersed-throughout-water-column-from-the-surface-to-the-ocean-floor


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  • danger kitty danger kitty

    @Dr G do you have a lab in mind that tests for radio nuclides? I live in San Diego County, I know I got more than cesium- probably got plutonium, uranium & strontium. (I worked every rainy day in 2011 & 2012- before I found ene news) If I get sick I want to pin it conclusively on fuku, for whatever good it can do.
    Hey Nick, right there with you at the anger stage. Feels just right.
    Hey all you newsers, been reading without posting no energy. Had THE cold for. FIVE WEEKS (plus r.a.I.d.s). That hasn't happened to me since Chernobyl.
    Still fighting.


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  • natano natano

    Yeah, no problem with the fisheries. unlikely that they'll ever be affected…..
    Just don't mention that to the sardine industry along the North West Pacific coast who just lost $32 million this past year since they didn't find a single sardine. I guess they could always go into the business of finding freaky animals for museums like the 2 headed and 2 tailed gray whale babies joined in the middle that washed ashore recently. I like my sushi Fukushima fresh!!


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  • Socrates

    Much damage to oceans already. Studies show toxic algae growths at great depths crowding out healthy algae. Climate change and fertilizer run-offs contribute. Japanese trawlers scrap the bottom. Everyone over-fishing.

    The number of jelly fish is increasing. Add to that all the Fukushima radiation with the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant tritium releases and other dumping in the oceans.

    The oceans are in huge ecological trouble. The food web in the ocean will soon collapse.

    Mankind has killed the goose that laid the golden egg. Why would anyone doubt this? If it was not for Fukushima, there would be other nuclear meltdowns and more pollution of all kinds. That's who we are as a species. Don't stop until everything is ruined.


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  • For anyone liking to alert San Diego schools and their local reps
    http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation/comment-page-12#comment-439105

    works for your own neighborhoods and social media too!

    p.s. don't eat the fish


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