Published: July 22nd, 2011 at 10:54 am ET
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Ship carrying nuclear cargo slips in, out of port, Savannah Morning News, July 22, 2011:
[...] The Osprey, which slipped in and out of [Port of Savannah] relatively unnoticed, was carrying containers holding six casks of nuclear fuel irradiated in the now-closed French fast reactor Phenix. [...]
The material is being returned to the Los Alamos National Lab in New Mexico — reportedly its source of origination — for “post irradiation examination.” [...]
The material was off-loaded to trucks for the 1,600-plus mile trek to the Los Alamos facility [...]
Calls to the Los Alamos National Lab were referred to the National Nuclear Security Agency in Washington, D.C., which did not return requests for information. [...]
Published: July 22nd, 2011 at 10:54 am ET
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If Americans of the U.S. were not idiots, they would not allow ANY transport of this stuff anywhere for any reason until the CITIZENS themselves were directly in charge. The hierarchy of idiots running the nuclear weapons, and power industries have obviously proven themselves unworthy (lies, constant accidents, accident productive cost cutting and corruption)of independent control as if titular control over things that have the potential to destroy whole communities, extinct species or wipe-out ecosystems entirely, have ANY right to autonomy.
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Pallas: Careful who you call “idiots.” We the People, many, many of us, have been protesting this for years. We’ve tried. The government does not listen.
I was standing 8 feet from war protester S. Brian Willson when the US. Navy munitions train deliberately drove over him, cutting off his legs and causing a gaping wound in his skull.
I won’t bore you with the long, discouraging, difficult history of all my efforts to stand against this madness. I am sure I am not alone, I’m sure many on this blog and many throughout the US have done and tried everything we could think of.
So I would appreciate it if you did not make such a blanket smear statement and put the blame where it truly belongs — with the US gov. and the citizens who do not resist.
Thank you, Pallas, for understanding.
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Dear dharma:
Don’t identify with a moniker if you don’t fit it. Of course, I’m referring to people who are idiots, which is most Americans.
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Most Americans are all too willing to allow other Americans, WE, to do all their political work for them to the point where they are unaware that such work is even being done on their behalf. Why am I sometimes harsh? Because we need to understand and be angry, yes angry, about the outrageous cultural defects of the U.S. that have persisted, yes as generality but factually have existed, since the time of the Puritans among assimillated Americans. Some of these mass character defects, of course with exceptions as ever, are anti-intellectualism, pro-fascism, celebrity and leader worship–the more corrupt the better, selfishness, greedy, hoarding…these are not uniquely American (U.S.) traights but these materialistic and fascist qualities are at there very most consequentially developed here. I left out one of the most important U.S. character defects: apathy and political laziness. This is the most disgusting trait and is not justifiable by any cop-out excuse. Do I think we can rise above this culture? Yes, I believe each person is a treasure, and, believe that, unless a person is a constitutional sociopath that they can improve their knowledge of reality. The extreme small-world views of most Americans can be overcome and must be.
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Most Americans are all too willing to allow other Americans, WE, to do all their political work for them to the point where they are unaware that such work is even being done on their behalf. Why am I sometimes harsh? Because we need to understand and be angry, yes angry, about the outrageous cultural defects of the U.S. that have persisted, yes as generality but factually have existed, since the time of the Puritans among asimillated Americans. Some of these mass character defects, of course with exceptions as ever, are anti-intellectualism, pro-fascism, celebrity and leader worship–the more corrupt the better, selfishness, greedy, hoarding…these are not uniquely American (U.S.) traights but these materialistic and fascist qualities are at there very most consequentially developed here. I left out one of the most important U.S. character defects: apathy and political laziness. This is the most disgusting trait and is not justifiable by any cop-out excuse. Do I think we can rise above this culture? Yes, I believe each person is a treasure, and, believe that, unless a person is a constitutional sociopath that they can improve their knowledge of reality. The extreme small-world views of most Americans can be overcome and must be.
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Sorry for the duplicate. Not sure how it happened.
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Really? Do you think most Japanese are idiots because their power company and government allows them to suffer through a radiation accident?
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WAKE UP NEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejs0RJtHbL0&feature=related
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One answer. Internet based government. The people will represent themselves. We’d know where every penny of tax money went. No corruption. Companys cant buy the nation. Only representatives. Imagine if the nuclear industry needed everyones vote to build a reactor. Would have never happened. Maximum net worth of 10 million. Nobody gets paid more than 3 times wut their lowest employee is paid. All the bad people go to jail. Imagine waking up in that world. No poverty. No crime. Only another day to enjoy the gift God gaves us. Email the President. We wud know everything.
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I like that.
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Be careful what you ask for.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
I demand they stop this blatant disregard of our wishes. Good God, who in the hell are we kidding?!? They wont stop until we’re all dying and dead.
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Good Idea, but I have found he does not listen, probably noone even reads these
letters. They probably have a droid machine to scan for any threats, but other than that they do not care.
One of the biggest, if not the biggest, contributor to Obama’s campaign for Pres. was Exelon Corporation (nuclear energy) of Chicago, Good luck.
In one post, I even asked him if he wasn’t concerned about the reproductive viability of his girls.
I’ve never gotten a relevant answer to anything I wrote. Just the “form” response which is automatically sent out to that subject heading.
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That said, I just wrote Obamer again.
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Interesting Tweet just came through:
http://www.llrc.org/fukucitizenepidemiology.htm
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DAMN! WRITE THE WH AGAIN!!
The city of Oak Ridge, Tenn., is anticipating the arrival of nearly 1,000 tons of nuclear waste from Germany. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission approved a plan in June for an American company to import and burn low-level nuclear waste from Germany.
http://www.npr.org/2011/07/22/138478701/tennessee-awaits-tons-of-german-nuclear-waste
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Whoopie, I’m sorry. I don’t want nuclear waste from our country to be shipped elsewhere!! The European Union has just agreed on a regulation that allows EU member states to ship their wate to non-EU countries, without those countries proving that they’re able to handle it.
Lat year, German gov. tried to send a waste train to Mayak!! Which was stopped by protesters. Maybe that’s the waste you’re receiving now??
All of you need to be ON THE STREETS.
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I hear you BB. BUT I’m afraid being on the streets would be dangerous and deadly. We’ve got probably the worst POLICE FORCE imaginable. Hell, cops are shooting people like crazy over the smallest crimes. I see it everyday. I truly dont know what the answer is – EXCEPT USE THE INTERNET WHILE WE GOT IT.
Scary shit.
BREAKING NEWS:OSLO’S GOV HEAD QTR’S JUST GOT HIT WITH BOMBS!
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/07/22/oslo-bombing-massive-blast-norway_n_906683.html#s313720&title=Norway_Explosion
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A march on Washington is inevitable.
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at least 2 dead according to reuters …damn ive family and friends there! not in the government offices…still its a small country with many personal connections.. this will hit them hard i fear!…another hardline government to appear? i hope not…they didnt change their demeanor after the kristiansand bomb! (hells angels blowing themselves up for those who dont now)… personnally i feel they should move further from thre military industrial complex and more into the peace studies aspect of thier nature….. god bless the norwegian people!! thanks for the heads up whoppee!
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the fact is that it is shipped everywhere!! by everyone!! so need for an apology bandb
100000 shipments of radioactive waste
http://www.nirs.org/factsheets/road.pdf
lots of relavant stuff here
http://www.nirs.org/about/nirs.htm
and this
Mohawk Communities Oppose Nuclear Waste Shipment
By Ahni Feb 13, 2011
“On Feb. 4, the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission (CNSC), gave Bruce Power one full year to get 16 containers filled with radioactive waste to Sweden, where the waste can be recycled.
However, before the containers can get there, Bruce Power would take them on a risky tour “from Lake Huron, down the St. Clair River through to Lake Erie, Lake Ontario and then on through the St. Lawrence Seaway to the Atlantic Ocean,” notes APTN.
Though Sweden itself turns out to be far from neutral when it comes to Canada’s nuclear industry, the Mohawks’ concerns hit much closer to home.
Bruce Power’s proposed shipping route, via beyondnuclear.org
“The St. Lawrence River provides drinking water to some 40 million people,” says Kahnawà:ke Grand Chief Michael Ahrihron Delisle, Jr., in the joint statement issued Feb. 9 “But for us, it’s much more than that. If there is an accident, there is no place for us to go. This is our home. We cannot and will not tolerate the passage of nuclear waste through our Territory. There is no excuse for this to take place.”
The Mohawk people have been living in the area of the St. Lawrence for at least 9,000 years – and they’re still there today.
peace!
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Thanks Arc. Checking that out now.
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Hold on a minute. I’m thinking that “irradiated nuclear fuel” sounds like enriched plutonium, not nuclear waste. I’m a new kid here, but I think I read that the US doesn’t enrich plutonium anymore because of some treaty (?). Therefore, if one were to need some enriched plutonium for nuclear weapons, one would have to get it elsewhere. right?
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irradiated fuel is another term for spent fuel i think youll find…heres some links i picked up on the way….
The nuclear industry would have you believe
http://www.nirs.org/radwaste/hlwtransport/accidentshistorybrochure.pdf
and a more techie link here
http://worldwidescience.org/wws/result-list/fullRecord:irradiated%2Bnuclear%2Bfuel/
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arc Uranium dioxide is a type of reactor fuel, the most common, but there is also Mixed oxide fuel, which has some percentage of Pu (Plutonium) in it. All reactor fuels that are spent for the purposes of power generation have Pu (Plutonium) in them. Therefore, what was shipped to the U.S. in that boat was far more radioactive than more ordinary Uranium dioxide fuel, the usual used in most nuclear power reactors. I’ve read that such “spent” fuel can be as much as 1,000,000 times more radioactive than the original Uranium dioxide that is used in most power generation. I’m not sure about how much more radioactive spent MOX (mixed-oxide) fuel is; but it’s definitely more radioactive than when it started.
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ARC, I LOVE that worldwide sciences site. OMG, that is dense with the kind of peer-reviewed primary research that fukushima (and other) nuclear mega-cataclysm wonks like us absolutely need to do battle with the unconscious mewling herd of typical Americans. Thank you very much for the hearty content.
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The fire is still in progress in Los Alamos, as PU239 posted:
Pu239
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Los Alamos – still burning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-EdvvqbDd8
Is it just me, or does it seem strange to anyone that they are not wearing breathing aparatus?
Indicates the level of awareness, or lack thereof. And these are supposed to be firefighters with some knowledge of dangerous materials? Or, are these the equivalent of the TEPCO temp workers?
[800 dumping sites in the area, all contaminated both inside and outside the site]
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Thanks for reposting. I missed that. Posted to HP.
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Its just plain human fallibility I guess. No application of the precautionary principle. Nukes must be closed down and shielded from the biosphere for many generations. That must be principal work of all the nuclear industry and concerned authorities now.
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>Or, are these the equivalent of the TEPCO temp workers?
Not really…these firefighters know the risks…some of the temp workers in Japan may not fully understand, but most do.
Anyone who scorns protective gear when faced with unknown invisible toxins is just callous about their fate. The explanation is they know there is toxin danger, but they face immediate death daily so longterm is just a blip on the radar. Faced with a cloud of ammonia or chlorine they might act differently, but radiation is the sneaky devil that is hard to comprehend.
BTW…that Savannah reporter better hope the spooks don’t land on her like a dog on a june bug. If that truck convoy is not in New Mexico yet then she just gave up the route to terrorists.
Loose lips sink ships. She could have worded her article to leave out the destination in my opinion. But what do I know? Just that 200 US ships were sunk by Nazi subs in the Gulf and the Atlantic because they were easy targets backlit by shore city lights during World War II. Until a reporter squealed and gave the news they needed a nighttime blackout. Sometimes exclusive stories have different effects.
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theres so many shipments that will only increase as more reactors go to decommissioning, and many are the target of activists (see above mohawk post for example)…censorship to stop terrorist who can get jobs at nuclear reactors or activists who attempt to stop shipments and stop nuke power?? i wonder??
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There are so many accidents on the highways and railways it is absolutely INSANE to be accepting irradiated fuel from other countries and then shipping it across country.
Does anyone actually believe that the fires at Los Alamos didn’t spread deadly contamination. Depopulation is still the fantasy of a possible super race. Radiation does not create a super race. It kills and destroys all life. Only a megalomaniac wants to play “god”.
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It ain’t We the People it’s them with money !
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and as were on the topic de francais!
from a user at huff post!
mdinoregon .38 Fans
Become a fan Unfan .19 minutes ago (12:07 PM) New French nuke plant beset by more delays
Published: July 22, 2011 at 8:42 AM
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EDF’s 1,650-megawatt Flamanville 3 nuclear reactor was already two years behind schedule and $2.4 billion over budget before Wednesday’s announcement, in which the utility says it needs to carry out tougher safety inspections in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan.
Citing “structural and economic reasons” for the new delays, the state-owned company sent notice its flagship plant’s costs will increase to $9 billion due to the new requirements while its opening has been pushed back to 2016.
The utility noted there were two fatal accidents at the work site, “including one that partially suspended the civil works for many weeks,” and thus work on the project was slowed in the first half of 2011.”
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2011/07/22/New-French-nuke-plant-beset-by-more-delays/UPI-90751311338555/
i feel really safe with these engineers on the case…and they said transportation was safe too! they promised!!!
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A bright future for the Heartlands: Powering the Midwest Economy with Clean Energy
From the text:
“The Midwest is home to some of the best renewable energy resources in the world.”
“Investing in these solutions would deliver new jobs and other economic development benefits, save consumers money, diversify the region’s energy mix, and cut heat-trapping emissions that cause global warming.”
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/solutions/big_picture_solutions/a-bright-future-for-the-heartland.html
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They ALL need to be shut down. Imagine being paid $250,000,000 to take spent fuel rods and bury them in Texas?
Yeah, this is what happens when traitors, liars, thieves, murderers, and morns hijack a government and the people allow them to remain.
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I saw, not long ago a video of someone driving next to a truck on a highway in the US with a radiation detector picking up strong radiation emitted from truck, …on the highway, did you know you were driving next to rad/nook waste? how do you stop this? I fear what we no know, I am terrified of what we don’t know.
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ali, me as well. I’m SO scared, and every time I find a piece tiny of information, it leads me to something bigger..and bigger…and it just never stops.
Our planet is rotting under the greed of a few and the ignorance of many.
I’m so happy I found this community.
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Yes they have tonnes of this stuff in Las Alamos and have been shipping it in and transporting it overland, via truck for years !
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Yes, that’s Hitman Trucking Co (or Hitman Transportation).
And, the trucker was driving extremely dangerously.
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Sorry got home read story and I doubled posted too !
LOL
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Hold on a minute. I’m thinking that “irradiated nuclear fuel” sounds like enriched plutonium, not nuclear waste. I’m a new kid here, but I think I read that the US doesn’t enrich plutonium anymore because of some treaty (?). Therefore, if one were to need some enriched plutonium for nuclear weapons, one would have to get it elsewhere. right?
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repost
double post
irradiated fuel is another term for spent fuel
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Thank you arclight. Sorry for the double post. I’m new.
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Hey some of them double post are the ones some of us catch !
: )
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Folks, someone posted a link to a video here about a truck going somewhere on an interstate that they had a gager counter and got along side it and the readings where way over the danger zone, Any one here that posted it, can you please repost that link ?
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xdrfox, here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm2fV0ag6tY
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Thx you Doll, that butters the bread !
; ) Wink Wink
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Carefull xdrfox, she’s fast!
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I hope so !
: D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm2fV0ag6tY
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Jebus
Big Thx you too !
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Header from Utube!
We got stuck next to this truck during the 7pm July 1st holiday traffic on North bound I-270, after seeing the Radioactive warning placards we pulled out the Geiger Counter and Camera. Lesson learned, AVOID RADIOACTIVE TRUCKS!
From story,..Sources tell us the ship departed Cherbourg, France, on June 28 and was met on arrival in Savannah by escort teams from Los Alamos and the U.S. Department of Energy.
That would put it in Georgia port around ? Was this one of ??
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Interstate 270 (I-270) makes up a large portion of the outer belt freeway in the St. Louis, Missouri metropolitan area. The counterclockwise terminus of I-270 is at the junction with Interstate 55 in Mehlville, Missouri; the clockwise terminus of the freeway is at the junction with I-55 and I-70 north of Troy, Illinois. The entire stretch of I-270 is 50.59 miles (81.42 km).
Interstate 270 between Interstate 70 and Interstate 55 was formerly designated Interstate 244, a “”Western bypass”" of St. Louis, Missouri. It….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_270_(Illinois%E2%80%93Missouri)
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Anybody recognize this plate, and is that a mickey mouse bumper sticker or a radiation logo?
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-2a033e99.html
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What format is this Jebus ?
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?? It’s a jpeg capture from that video, if thats what you mean…
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more a mickey mouse thingie….i think
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Radioactive sign “should be” this one:
http://www.greenpeace.org/australia/en/photosandvideos/photos/month-in-pictures/month-in-pictures-mar-2011/Projection-on-Borssele-Nuclear-PlantProjectie-op-kerncentrale-Bor/
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But the plate is wierd, not a vanity plate, looks like a permanent fleet plate. Just curious, if it was a new mexico plate or government plate. It was two cars behind the truck, behind the durango…
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B and B, I agree…
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Wants me to download a number of :
File Type: Microsoft Picture It! Document or PHP HTML Scripting Language file
File Extension: .php
Description: This file can be either a Microsoft Picture It! Document or PHP HTML Scripting Language file. PHP HTML files can be opened in Notepad or other applications that open text files.
Software or information available at:
Microsoft Picture It! Document
PHP HTML Scripting Language
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What is it, I have a MSI touch screen 22″ with Win 7 full package, whisles and bells ?
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BreadAndButter
ROTFL
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Nothing I have seems to open it, you guys just keep it a secrect !
: P
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Just dloaded again twice and it’s a jpeg, opens fine… I can upload a bmp if ya want…
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TRy this…
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-952510b2.html
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Oh. I take your word for it, 7 doesn’t have the default viewer as other, it has to be choose, they want to use the MSV as default and it’s not realizing the image !
To improve is to make more bugs !~ Alas, never ending fixes !
Windows will never be a Toyota !
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Ya, but windoze doesn’t take off like a bat outa hell when you step on the brakes!
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True true !!
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concerning the plates..in england we have a police force that is attached to the nuclear industry…they are charged with defending nuclear reactors (tax payers money…hidden cost.). do you suppose that would be the same in the usa (i noticed the penchant for nice shiny badges etc within the police depts in the usa), i suppose that it would be the same everywhere so as to price offset! oh and i hear they are all recruiting soon! lol
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Greenpeace: renewables win the race – nuclear last
This is for the ones who still claim “emission-free nukes” play an important role in minimising climate change.
Go get ‘em!
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/nuclear-reaction/nuclear-power-is-in-last-place-in-the-race-ag/blog/35837/
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Great article, B&B! Only 8.4% of our energy in the US is supplied by nuclear. We should easily be able to replace this with renewable (wind, solar, geothermal).
Energy in the United States
The United States is the largest energy consumer in terms of total use, using 100 quadrillion BTUs (105 exajoules, or 29 PWh) in 2005. This is three times the consumption by the United States in 1950.[1] The U.S. ranks seventh in energy consumption per-capita after Canada and a number of small countries.[2][3]
The vast majority of this energy is derived from fossil fuels: in 2005, it was estimated that 40% of the nation’s energy came from petroleum, 23% from coal, and 23% from natural gas. Nuclear power supplied 8.4% and renewable energy supplied 7.3%, which was mainly from hydroelectric dams although other renewables are included such as wind power, geothermal and solar energy.[4] Energy consumption has increased at a faster rate than energy production over the last fifty years in the U.S.(when they were roughly equal). This difference is now largely met through imports.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_the_United_States
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Good morning anne,
it’s weird, isn’t it? All those risks, the damage and the sorrow for lousy 8.4 % of energy?
It should be easy not to replace those, but to SAVE 8.4 % of energy consumption! I think for private households it would be really easy (I saved 10% in 2010 compared to 2009). For the industry, efficiency measures would do the trick.
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you gotta follow the money bandb (oh and morning)
one of my know your enemy comments…from 2008 (the stock maklet crash)
first this
Britain is part of a broader trend of growing support for nuclear energy in other countries. The French company Areva, the world’s largest builder of nuclear reactors, forecasts that 150 to 300 nuclear reactors will be built in the world from now to 2030. At least 50 of them will be built in China and India, according to news reports.
This is encouraging for global power plant builders like Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Toshiba through its unit Westinghouse and Areva, which have all benefited from China’s investment in new nuclear in recent years. Analysts figure that decommissioning projects in more mature markets like Britain, Russia, Japan and France could prove to be an even bigger money maker for the nuclear industry. A review of the global decommissioning market, carried out by the Nuclear Industry Association in Britain, estimates such projects to be worth £300 billion over the next 30 years.
(300 billion for just decommissioning!!!!!???? After they made low level waste levels higher for cheaper dumping!!)
And this
Coverley said corporate activity could also contribute to the share price performance of large European utilities. “Managers are under pressure from shareholders to redeploy some of the capital that has accrued in recent years,” she said. “A spending spree is on the cards, and the likely focus will be acquisition targets in Britain – the most deregulated market in Europe.”
And this
Coverley said corporate activity could also contribute to the share price performance of large European utilities. “Managers are under pressure from shareholders to redeploy some of the capital that has accrued in recent years,” she said. “A spending spree is on the cards, and the likely focus will be acquisition targets in Britain – the most deregulated market in Europe.”
Nearly copied the whole thing interesting article!! …isn’t hindsight a wonderful thing! How did the msm miss that one?? Not to mention gaddafi contaminate free spring water( ancient Libyan aquifer)
Heres the link for the rest
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/your-money/01iht-mnuke.1.9664749.html#
and the new plants they plan to build in the uk will not come into effect until 2020 at the earliest. Some facts and figures here
british government liable for spent fuel, all sorts of kickbacks for nuclear kickbacks, 56 billion for decommissioning! NDA has shortfall of 4 billion expected 2011-2012 (pre fukushima?) and theres some nice shiny graph things with percentage of nuclear energy used for the different countries
uk 13 percent
usa 19 percent
Canada 15 percent
Japan 23 percent
Sweden 42 percent
Lithuania 73 percent ???????
And theres more!
http://www.parliament.uk/briefingpapers/commons/lib/research/briefings/snsg-03631.pdf
and the big money?
“As states are declining to finance nuclear power plants, the sector is now much more reliant on the commercial banking sector. According to research done by Dutch banking research group Profundo, commissioned by BankTrack, in 2008 private banks almost invested € 176 billion in the nuclear sector. Champions were BNP Paribas, with more than € 13,5 billion in nuclear investments and Citigroup and Barclays on par with both over € 11,4 billion in investments. Profundo added up investments in eighty companies in over 800 financial relationships with 124 banks in the following sectors: Construction, Electricity, Mining, the Nuclear fuel cycle and “Other”.[17]”
And this disgusting support for the share holders (THINK COST OF FUKU DISASTER! )…more here!!!
“InsuranceGlobally nuclear liability risks resulting accidents are largely covered by the state, with only a small part of the risk carried by the private insurance industry. Worst case nuclear incident costs are so large that it would be difficult for the private insurance industry to carry the size of the risk, and the premium cost of full insurance would make nuclear energy uneconomic.”
“[edit] CanadaIn Canada, the Canadian Nuclear Liability Act[47] requires nuclear power plant operators to provide a maximum of $75 million dollars liability insurance coverage.
[edit] United KingdomIn the UK, the Nuclear Installations Act of 1965 governs liability for nuclear damage for which a UK nuclear licensee is responsible. The limit for the operator is £140 million.[48]”
[edit] United StatesInsurance for nuclear or radiological incidents in the U.S. is organized by the Price-Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act. In general, nuclear power plants have private insurance and assessments that are pooled into a fund currently worth about $10 billion. Insurance claims beyond the fund’s size would be organized by, and probably paid by, the U.S. government. In July 2005, Congress extended this Act to newer facilities. For full history, details and controversy, see Price-Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act.
[edit] OtherThe Vienna Convention on Civil Liability for Nuclear Damage and the Paris Convention on Third Party Liability in the Field of Nuclear Energy put in place two similar international frameworks for nuclear liability.[49] The limits for the conventions vary. The Vienna convention was adapted in 2004 to increase the operator liability to €700 million per incident, but this modification is not yet ratified.[50]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_new_nuclear_power_plants”
haven’t found what would be the total global investment in nuke stuff since 2008 but I got a good idea that it could be in the trillions….ZEROHEDGE WHERE ARE YOU!???????? We need your comments on the viability of nuke investment and investment projections for gaddafis aquifer !!!!!! thank you so much!!
peace
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One has to wonder if this is what was in that Youtube video posted earlier on this forum. The one where they were measuring the radiation as they pulled behind it and then alongside.
Obviously the transportation was being done so covertly and hastily that they didn’t even bother with sufficient shielding. Perhaps a semi truck clad in dense shielding would appear somewhat disturbing to the public eh?
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ConceptRat, they don’t shield the trucks because they don’t care! They just don’t expect people taking out their counters.
Don’t know if you ever saw the documentary “Uranium – is it a country?” (youtube!). There is also a scene where a team of French NGO lab CRIIRAD follow such a truck in France.
And they do those transports on a daily basis.
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Reminds me of Silkwood (1983)-Nuclear accident at Kerr McGhee
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Wikipedia:Public suspicions led to a federal investigation into plant security and safety, and a National Public Radio report concerning 44 to 66 pounds of misplaced plutonium. Silkwood’s story emphasized the hazards of nuclear energy and raised questions about corporate accountability and responsibility. Kerr-McGee closed its nuclear fuel plants in 1975. The grounds of the Cimarron plant were still being decontaminated 25 years later.
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this is a petition worth signing!!
do a link on your wesite many thanks!
criiad rquest release of air quality data being witheld!
http://petitions.criirad.org/?For-a-total-transparency-on-the
this petition needs to be spread around only 300 signatures!!
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excellent! the figure is now 307….i feel ilke were making progress people!
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I just want to thank France for this immortal gift. Long after gifts like the Statue of Liberty have turned to dust, this gift from the French people will still keep on giving.
Shouldn’t the rule be – You consumed it, you eat it?
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Hi radegan,
it’s vice versa….
“US plutonium shipment arrives in France”
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/press/releases/us-plutonium-shipment-arrives/
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lol, the old nuclear runaround…not confused yet you will be!! lol now all we need is for some french reader to moan about the shipments from the usa
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after much searching in the internet, i came across this comment by a frenchman named ali mohamad! heres his comment
“quelle est cette merde! Je ne baise le souhaitez! coller votre rectum et pivotant vous chien yankee! thats pour l’interdiction des frites françaises! vos pommes de terre sont radioactifs de toute façon! ha!”
he sounded upset!
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It’s just like snakes and ladders – enter “ships plutonium to france” in google
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Until we get WHO unlinked from IAEA we won’t get anywhere. This requires pressure on the UN.
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Flash flood warning..Los Alamos
http://www.lamonitor.com/content/flash-flood-warning-issued-los-alamos-vicinity
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Time to put the lead waders on..
http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/20/flash-floods-near-los-alamos-could-wash-through-canyons-full-of-nuclear-waste/
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Thanks @Heart of the Rose
for two posts of extinction level importance.
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The Blessed Lord made the Sun shine over the Earth 12 hrs here and 12 hours there using the finest fusion so we can all cool ourselves in the heat wave without electricity:No Nukes! See:
http://usenoelectricitytocool.blogspot.com/
and see
http://absorptionac.blogspot.com/
You foolish rulers
Life is not due to your generosity
We are also not the submissive types
We will fight till the last drop of our blood!
You have caused enormous dams
To meet enormous water greeds
And the Blessed Lord
Designed around these designs
And made lovely trees
To clothe Mother Earth
So gracefully meeting mortal thirsts
Of the most diverse kinds!
You foolish rulers
Life reproduces nonclonally
Shaming your eternal wastes to redundance!
You foolish rulers
Those who disregard this
Wheel of life
Are living for themselves
And will be destroyed
Los Alamos!
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Information film produced 2010 by Australian electrical workers union:
http://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=aSScncD3Ark6bUg2wbi7-s
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Very good posting on a little discussed topic on the perspective on Australian uranium mining. Keep it up odylan. The horrors of mining on the families living near and not quite so near are totally unacceptable. Nuclear power gives no energy to society outside of the nuclear industry.
So you will convert every uranium deposit area into desolate and dangerous spots on the earth and it will still not be enough. Or thorium no reactor exists- we dont want their trials! For a little contextual comparison: Living energy users like trees (multi input multi output wonders of nature) have a power flow through them of 1000 or more megawatts(MW) per square kilometer(production and use to deliver goods!) compared with negative for nukes! Human and animal muscle power enjoyment is at 1000 MW per square kilometer. When we return our excreta to the fields it is return of useful matter(wastes sic) and we reproduce nonclonally! See the problems on the other hand with nukes-they are not even utilitarian. And what extinction level problems! Uranium mines require shielding from radon for 200000 years. How much power we can produce and use with living energy? Its the most compact and economical in its use of the earth. 447 GW of nukes and 700 GW of just human enjoyable muscle power. Change to normal ways. See http://modernand normal.blogspot.com/
Also practice then strict energy conservation.
See also http://isothermalengines.blogspot.com/
and also
http://practicethevedas.blogspot.com/
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The URL may pl be corrected to:
http://modernandnormal.blogspot.com/ from
http://modernand normal.blogspot.com/
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odylan, thanks for that link! Great, grassroot activity – I like that.
We the people can achieve everything.
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The way forward as I see it is not (as some have called to block internet etc.) but in a more intelligent way.
ENE and other groups should petition a prominent NGO such as GREENPEACE which has supporters worldwide to take the following action, that is to promulgate A PETITION (via a non-nuclear independent country to be named) in the following (or similar) form via the internet and by adverts in selected newspapers.
A WORLDWIDE PETITION TO THE UNITED NATIONS CALLING FOR AN EMERGENCY RESOLUTION VIZ.: THE ‘WHO’ TO BE FORTHWITH UNLINKED FROM THE IAEA & TO BE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF ALL THE CORRUPTING INFLUENCES OF THE IAEA IN ORDER THAT THE ‘WHO’ CAN CARRY OUT ITS DUTY AND DISCLOSE THE WORLDWIDE HEALTH EFFECTS OF NUCLEAR RADIATION
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Excellent for a begin. Simultaneously on all other fronts like shutting down nukes and mines.And being open in nuke operations, even shutting down and isolating from the biosphere.
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THANK YOU OBAMA ADMIN–allowing nuclear waste storage in USA. Do we really know what to do with ith..SAFELY?
See news from EU:
US
The United States can find a way to dispose of its nuclear waste, even if the current program is at an impasse, according to the blue-ribbon commission established by President Obama after he ended the government’s planning for making Yucca Mountain in Nevada the nation’s nuclear waste repository. In a draft report issued Friday, the commission members wrote that “we know what we have to do, we know we have to do it, and we even know how to do it.” Essentially, the commission recommended that an independent panel choose a new site, based on sound science, and win the consent of the local community before proceeding.
New York Times 29th July 2011 more >>
In its draft report, the commission seems to have learned from the past and in essence is asking one or more communities and states to volunteer to host the nation’s nuclear waste. Should such volunteers be found, whether for the short- or long-haul, the process would then begin anew of attempting to site and build a repository.
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