French Report: Radioactivity 10 times normal in Avignon — Cause of “anomalous increase” could be directly linked to explosion at Marcoule (CHART)

Published: September 15th, 2011 at 2:10 pm ET
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Marcoule: an increase in radioactivity was observed in the Gard, Vaucluse and Herault, Passerellesud (France) by Par Drozerah, September 15, 2011:

Google Translation

“A level of radioactivity 10 times the daily measurement of Avignon and 4 times higher than the Mont Ventoux”

According to an article published September 13, 2011 on the website of the anti-nuclear coordination Southeast, an “anomalous increase” of radioactivity on the detection of X-rays, Gamma and Beta particles have been measured within a radius of 120 km downstream of Marcoule.

On September 12, 2011 anti-nuclear members of the Collective have made the Vaucluse independent measurements of radioactivity in different parts of Vaucluse, Gard and Herault […]

No “credible explanation” from the makers of the nuclear accident at Marcoule and the weight of the French nuclear lobby, the collective anti-nuclear states that the cause of this increase in radioactivity could be directly linked to the bombing in the Gard. […]

See report from Cordination Anti-nucléaire Sud-est: Incident nucléaire à Marcoule : au moins 1 mort, des blessés et des radiations

SOURCE: spiritsoleil.com

 

Published: September 15th, 2011 at 2:10 pm ET
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81 comments to French Report: Radioactivity 10 times normal in Avignon — Cause of “anomalous increase” could be directly linked to explosion at Marcoule (CHART)

  • kintaman kintaman

    I am calling it. The world is FUCKED. These are end times for everyone.

    • xstatic

      slowly but surely…..yes!

      • dharmasyd dharmasyd

        @ xstatic:

        Slowly may be a mercy, or not. Lines from a poem refering to Hiroshima”

        I am troubled by the image
        Of a girl, skipping in boundless childhood joy
        Seared into the pavement of the bridge.

        She probably felt no pain,
        Going at the speed of light,
        In that diaspora between daliance
        And disappearance.

        I can only ask: Is it better to go at the speed of light? Or are we serving some purpose by speaking out against this insanity while being witness to the horrors of this death?

        From a poem by me, titled, “Shadow Poem for Carmen” Don’t look for it because it’s unpublished.

        I read somewhere in the Marcoule coverage that the person who died basically disappeared, was vaporized. I can’t attest to this. I read it once, and couldn’t find it again. Apologies.

        • lam335 lam335

          A man on an interview (maybe RT, not sure) said the man who died was “carbonized,” which in my mind conjures an even more horrifying picture than being vaporized (probably more horrifying for the others who were there to see it as well). Don’t know which is correct since they have clamped down so thoroughly on info.

          I wonder if fire inspectors have yet entered the area that was “too hot” to enter after the accident (and I wonder whether it was too “hot” in more ways than one).

          By the way, the lines from your poem are very powerful and very moving.

        • Clocka

          Better go at the speed of light than suffer for years.

          I read a poem on Hiroshima too, about the horror of the makeshift hospital the day after.

          It’s in Japanese, but should be available somewhere in English if you are interested about this kind of stuff.

          • dharmasyd dharmasyd

            Yes, please send a link or a title. I knew a nurse from Hiroshima. She came on the 40th anniversary tour to the US (1985). I did some of the organizing for that tour.

        • Arizonan Arizonan

          Beautiful, moving poem.

          “The duty to endure
          gives us the right to know.
          -JEAN ROSTAND”

          From: Ernest Sternglass, Secret Fallout (1972, 1981) http://www.ratical.org/radiation/SecretFallout/

      • manes

        This is hopeful:

        “Sixty-two percent of French people want a “progressive halt” to the country’s nuclear energy program in the next 25 or 30 years, while 15 percent want a rapid withdrawal, according to an Ifop opinion poll published in June.”

        “Socialist Francois Hollande, who polls indicate is a leading contender against Sarkozy, has said France should reduce its dependence on nuclear power. Sarkozy, meanwhile, has thrown his support behind future investment in the industry.”

        http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-09-15/france-opens-doors-to-nuclear-sites-to-woo-public-post-fukushima.html

    • maaa

      Radioactive 10 times normal? I thought the french government says there are no releases? Blatant lies by the government.

  • arclight arclight

    confusingly criirad posted this today (might be late on thier website?)

    “Accident of September 12, 2011 on the site of Marcoule (Gard): the service beacons of laboratory CRIIRAD in increased vigilance

    Note n°5 of the 15/09/11 13:00

    No artificial radionuclide transmitting gamma was detected, on the aerosols and gases collected between on September 6, 09 h00 and on September 13, 11 h50 (local times). The limits of detection of these analyses are lower than 0,1 mBq/m3, that is to say 0,0001 Bq/m3. As example, the activity out of cesium 137 of the filter paper is lower than 0,008 mBq/m3.”

    obviously thier test have a delay time… heres the link for you to check…and they are checking gases too!!

    http://98.139.168.220/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fbalisescriirad.free.fr%2f

  • ADMIN

    Please start United states Eneuser / thread, For uploading our private radiation monitoring information…

    We need one for japan too.

    It has come to my attention that dangerous radiation levels are being reported all the time, and there is no adequate leveling other than that of the epa.

    “We need to do private surveys of large cities independently. ”

    Places of interest are probably: Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, San diego, San Francisco, Tuscan Arizona, and Vancouver BC.

    We need to survey full cities Markets, parks, schools, public attractions, restaurants, industrial commercial, and beyond.

    Please start a discussion thread…

    Users should be encouraged to use it. Upload the most compelling surveys you can accomplish.

    We can plot the points highlighting area’s by color scheme and approach the appropriate channels of communication if any area’s of concerns are located.

    Please give your opinions below…

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi Taco, good idea! Don’t you think it might be too much to be incorporated in this site – maybe a new site would be better?

      • If I had a geiger counter, I could easily walk a grid in seattle. Taking levels every block for a square mile every day…

        Then upload them onto a youtube account….

        On the discussion thread I could then Upload one link to the youtube accounts Titled radiation monitoring Seattle.

        One link on one thread to hundreds of samples… Also I can upload other users in seattle to that youtube users account too… So you can easily incorporate nationwide monitoring. On just a few simple thread posts.

        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          I like the idea, as it would allow to follow readings over a longer period of time instead of folks shouting from here or there “high reading Today!” every two weeks.

          • socal stukncali

            That’s a good idea and if we find alarming levels then we can make it completely public. Maybe a couple rallies showing everyone the truth with undeniable facts. Also we could take the readings to the city if they are high and put pressure on the city to clean it up. Im in!

      • milk and honey

        no need for a new site – me thinks

        There already is safecast.org

        They are based in the US. And although currently publishing data from Japan only, as far as I understand, they plan to expand globally – and they already have the technical infrastructure to do so.

        And they are looking for volunteers everywhere in the world.

        • jonjon

          safecast.org sucks… they don’t do it right. their map is unusable, there’s no time dimension, and all the readings use disparate units which make it completely useless.

          I was discussing this with a friend in tokyo who does web development and we were thinking of putting together something much better. Should we find the time and energy to do it, we will do it for free, unlike safecast who’s collecting donations and yet can’t seem to put any time into making things coherent.

          • milk and honey

            If you and your friend know better ways of presenting such data (i.e. adding a time dimension or provide unit conversions and filters etc.). And if you and your friend also know how to implement convenient user interfaces for these features on the web: Why don’t help safecast.org to improve their set of tools instead of starting another site.
            They are looking for volunteers to do such things:

            https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dGNfLUFXdi1lejF1TzU4NHdhZnRGWkE6MQ#gid=0

          • Arizonan Arizonan

            Safecast needs some help to standardize, but the infrastructure is already there….too many sites and our attention is dissipated. Radnet also publishes independent real-time cpms done by volunteers; none of these methods tell us much about internal contamination.

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Also, the east coast as Philly had an increase in infant mortality and high readings in rainwater. I think dispersion is carried by the jet stream. I have access to a geiger counter. The recent hurricane rain which inundated PA was clean concerning radiation.

      • alasanon

        Thanks for that update! I noticed we had been spared the Jet Stream overhead with some 15 inches of rain from Irene…I’m glad your PA measurements confirm the positioning!
        It could have been much worse…North Anna, the works.
        But, I think I will wear a ventilator on my next plane flight though….Plus, you can totally notice the icky air when the Jet Stream is hanging around!

        Does anyone know if there are regular seasonal patterns we can expect with the Jet Stream???!

        • lam335 lam335

          Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I didn’t think outside air would get into a plane’s cabin while flying. Since the cabin is pressurized, isn’t it basically air tight vis-a-vis the outside? I thought that is why the air system in airplanes recirculates the same internal air (which is why it spreads germs so efficiently). Would particles in the jet stream outside really make their way into the cabin of a plane?

          • voltscommissar

            The problem with a 5-hour aeroplane flight high in the stratosphere is that there is less atmosphere above you to absorb gamma rays from space. A face mask would be useless. The aluminium fuselage does not stop these radiation bullets either. A plane with a lead shield thick enough would never get off the ground. So if you must avoid this slight risk, go by Mr Obama’s new bullet train!

            😉

    • andii

      Taco et al
      There is such website exists already.
      The radiation levels submitted by private individuals.
      http://hakatte.jp

  • arclight arclight

    readings from uk now
    ten minute count of 1.9 mcsievert/hr low at 0.8 high at 2.5 mcsievert/hr more than usual hits over 0.2 mcsievert/hr
    air reading

    normal range 0.3 to 1.5 mcsievert/hr

    thats what i think

    oh and leave the wild mushrooms alone 🙁

  • StillJill StillJill

    TMG is right–we need a preponderance of evidence,…(even though TPTB will try EVERYTHING to discount our accuracy),…we need that PILE of ‘people/places reports’ to choke them, yes?

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Yes, like the “people’s map of radiation” from Japan that was made a while ago!

      • socal stukncali

        But us Americans will get a lot more pushy with our government if we can get enough supporters. If somehow we could get the majority on our side we could take back our country

        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          I guess the Japanese would also be more pushy with their government if they had more supporters 😉

          • andii

            Hey American people,
            Can you kick @ss of Japanese gov’t?
            Japanese needs more supporters, push from outside. The country is totally corrupted, no morals left and our hands are up in the air. After all, if nothing is done to stop this pollution, what’s theirs becomes yours. In this instance, it’s not a good idea. They have been huffing and puffing for too long… like six months!

          • alasanon

            The Japanese are so quiet lately… 🙁
            Total supplication???

            I’d be in New Caledonia or French Guinea (Japanese are eligible for so many easy visas!) as of April, if I lived there. Vote with your feet!

            Of course, the U.S. is just the same to a considerably lesser degree…?

          • alasanon

            oops, that should be the fascinating French Guiana–although the former French Guinea region in W. Africa may be more healthy, too, minus rampant political instability & wild wonders!….

            I think the Japanese should raise hell, then explore all of their exotic options!! Lemmings on the common path will not do well, I’m afraid!…

    • We need readings all over that dispute the official “news” about no radiation. When a decent percentage of citizens is either taking readings, or knows someone who is, and those readings continually disagree with the “happy-happy no problems here” readings that are quoted by nuke-boosters, we MAY actually get people to listen.

      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        Hi Andrew, just a thought: wouldn’t it be better if dedicated people from a community put money in the hat and buy one set of pro equipment to get readings?
        I’ve posted this before: in my town we have such a citizen station to monitor the French nuke plant right across the German border (30 miles from here). Those charts we get since 1986:
        http://www.maus-trier.de/Seiten/m_2011.htm

        • socal stukncali

          @andii: do you live in japan?
          im going to my library today or tomorrow to look at law books and see if i can find a way to sue tepco or the japanese government. im sure theres a way to sue them for crimes against humanity

        • westcoastgirl westcoastgirl

          I agree, that’s a good idea B&B. I know larry andrew-nils already bought a geiger counter, but i wonder if it would be most effective if people in specific areas pooled money to buy one for the area.

          I have been talking about going in on a good one (with a probe, and able to measure alpha rad.) with someone else from this site who is in the bay area. But they are expensive. If anyone else in this area wants to pitch in, we could do it together.

          I am already sharing mine with this person, which helps because I haven’t had the time to do thorough testing on my own.

          Anyone want to go in on this? (SF Bay Area)

  • Sickputer

    OK…now we will see how good the French authorities are at misinformation…I bet they can teach Tepco a thing or two about manipulation of public information. Assuming they don’t have random people dropping dead down the street from the plant.

  • StillJill StillJill

    Bobby1–“You can pretty much infer where the jet stream is by searching for “nosebleed” on twitter.”

    That is ONE bone chilling TRUISM!

    • It is a horrifying idea, but bleeding problems and diarrhea have been good indicators of where and when the population (including those without symptoms) is getting a good dose. With all of the immune-suppression being done to people by low-level radiation, I am just waiting for the super-bug that will sweep the planet this year. You just gotta know that we will see a BAD flu season if not something a whole hell of a lot worse.

      • socal stukncali

        Ive had diarrhea. And im sure you know i live in california (souther cali to be exact) But with a little research ive found the most amnazing substances to help your body with all types of toxins and disease and they also promote overall health and well-being. Look up fulvic minerals. if you’re interested I can tell you where to buy good fulvic extract. Fulvic is derived from Humic which grows naturally and it has too many amazing health benefits i cant list. But in India there are tribes that live well over 100 and humic is a natural part of their diet. Look into it everybody should.

    • xstatic

      nose bleeds, i’m so tired all i want to do is sleep,any one else got headaches.it’s not just from japans “china syndrome ” its las alomos , what about the north lake nuke plant “or whatever it’s called in Virginia, the french oven thing,fort Calhoun, the 1 south of that, regular leaks from all nuke plants…i’m so tired of reading all this bad news 1 after another! the crap from Chernobyl didn’t just disappear either it’s in ALL of us….some more than others, the tzar bomb, however many thousand above ground blast since the a bomb!i need a bunker (coffin)just to get away from all this craziness and blind greed! sorry for the rant….love for all!
      sorry for any typos.

    • milk and honey

      Google Trends result for searches from Japan on the japanese word for “nosebleed” (got it from google translate after installing the Japanese character set on windows)

      http://www.google.de/trends?q=%E9%BC%BB%E8%A1%80&date=all&geo=jpn&ctab=0&sort=0&sa=N

      (does this URL work for you?)

  • americancommntr

    “bombing in the Gard” ???

    Was this a computer translation for explosion or was there actually a bombing?

  • hourofra

    If people don’t make a lot of noise, the country will do nothing… It’s my country 🙁 Peace on earth

  • arclight arclight

    Le Figaro’s article on September 13 had these details:

    •Furnace was set at 1,500 degrees Celsius but the metal didn’t completely melt;

    •The employee tried to break the molten mass with a crowbar (“barre à mine”).

    Oh boy. Crowbar?

    But just as TEPCO has the manual for the outside world and the “real” manual(s) for the workers to follow, breaking the molten metal blob with a crowbar probably is part of the “real” manual at the French plant.

    http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/09/more-on-accident-at-marcoule-nuclear.html

  • Ken31ONCA

    It is funny they would say there was no creditable explination. Its like they forgot there was a explosion. Well atleast they haven’t changed the legal limit on exposure by 10 000 times normal levels like some countries… But it doesn’t surprise me that they lied about the leak its probably a good thing citizens had geiger counters to test cause their goverment surely wouldn’t do it. Let’s all prey there is not a solar storm in the future and have a flare take out the power grid cause they could be fukushima times 400. Maybe goverment leaders will come to their sences but I won’t hold my breath.

  • maaa

    Time to ban French wine.

  • milk and honey

    This thread just got linked by fefe’s blog ( http://blog.fefe.de/ – one of the most read blogs in germany ). This will bring some new traffic to enenews 🙂

  • arclight arclight

    criaad update

    Accident of September 12, 2011 on the site of CENTRACO in Marcoule (Gard)
    Note n°6 of the 16/09/11 16:00

    “These statements indeed indicated values of background radiation 3 to 8 times higher than the natural background noise, between 14:00 and 17:40, in the south of the site of Marcoule, with a East-West extension of approximately 140 km. This information raised the question of a bond with the dramatic accident which has occurred at the end of the morning of September 12 about the installation CENTRACO which company SOCODEI exploits on the nuclear site of Marcoule. CENTRACO is an installation of treatment of waste slightly radioactive by fusion and incineration.”
    “there no were certainly massive rejections of radioactivity at the time of the accident on site CENTRACO, on the other hand one cannot still conclude that there was no radioactive rejection. Indeed official press releases raise more actions of communication than of information in measurement, for example, where 4 days after the accident, it still specify the quantity and the nature of the radionuclides present in the installation and the metal which was in the furnace at the time of the explosion, neither results of the control of the rejections in chimney of the installation, nor the volume activity of the air in and to the immediate vicinity of the installation.”

    More detailed stuff on this link!!

    http://98.139.168.220/babelfish/translate_url_content?…

    • arclight arclight

      they are allowed to dump gigabequerels of this stuff??? ouch!!

      thought i would let you all check this out
      qoute from criirad site
      “*: let us recall that the SOCODEI is authorized to reject significant amounts of radionuclides:

      – in the air (1 250 gigaBecquerels per annum or carbon-14 GBq/an; 6.000 Tritium GBq/an; 1 iodine 129 GBq/an); 2 mégaBecquerels per annum or MBq/an of transmitters alpha; 100 MBq/an of transmitters beta, or gamma except tritium, carbon-14 and iodine 129),

      – in the Rhone (2 000 tritium GBq/an; 20 carbon-14 GBq/an; 50 iodine 129 GBq/an; 10 GBq/an of transmitters beta or gamma except tritium, carbon and iodine 129; 100 MBq/an of transmitters alpha).

      These rejections are added with those of other nuclear installations of Marcoule.”

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Arclight,
      Thank you for this link, and thank you for helping with the Am241 discussion on the other thread.

  • arclight arclight

    CRIAAD LINK http://98.139.168.220/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.criirad.org%2factualites%2fdossier2011%2fmarcoule%2fmarcoule.html

    “The bond hereafter directs towards a document prepared by the owner, the SOCODEI. It contains interesting data elements. However, the CRIIRAD makes a point of very drawing the attention of the Net surfer to the “advertising” character of this document which suggests a perfect control in the operations of processing waste.” (like the way they put that? lol!

    http://www.socodei.fr/societe/visite-virtuelle-de-l'usine/

    heres the socodei info!

    – Report of France 3 Languedoc Roussillon (JT of the 13/9/11 evening)

    Current events
    12-09-11 Factory CENTRACO of Marcoule: accident of exploitation controlled with any radioactive rejection

    “The accident of exploitation on a smelter of metal waste was controlled with 13:06 by the operating teams of the factory. There was no chemical or radioactive rejection. There is no risk of rejection to come. The room in which the furnace is just. The two furnaces of the installation were stopped. We deplore the death of an employee of foundry which was near the furnace. Four other people were wounded, of which one is in a serious condition which was evacuated towards Montpellier. The furnace, brought into service in 1999, bottom of metal waste slightly radioactive (valves, pumps tools….) and of the non-ferrous metals by induction. Ultimate waste, in the form…

    • arclight arclight

      ……in the form of ingots, occupies a volume ten times lower than initial scrap. The Nuclear Authority of Safety (ASN), the prefecture, the Local Commission of Information (CLI) and the factory inspectorate were prevented.
      An investigation is diligentée (commencing?) in order to determine the precise causes of the accident of exploitation which has occurred in the furnace.
      The factory is a basic nuclear installation regularly inspected by the Nuclear Authority of Safety.”

      http://98.139.168.220/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=fr_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.socodei.fr%2factualites%2f

      link to criaad direct for our german cousins for easier translation ,,,, no nukes!!
      http://www.criirad.org

  • arclight arclight

    couplee of relevant links here

    France’s campaign to win public over to nuclear power
    “After the nuclear disaster in Fukushima, Japan, six months ago, state-controlled Electricite de France SA, the world’s biggest reactor operator, is stepping up a campaign to make the French better appreciate nuclear power……..

    “French public opinion after Fukushima has become increasingly anti-nuclear,” Corinne Lepage, an environmental lawyer and member of the European Parliament, said in an interview. “EDF has its work cut out for it.”

    http://nuclear-news.net/2011/09/16/frances-campaign-to-win-public-over-to-nuclear-power/

    “Industrial accident” is the new wobbly word for “nuclear accident”

    “In a frantic attempt to decontaminate its reputation, EdF announced the explosion was ‘an industrial accident, not a nuclear accident’Does EdF, like us, think ‘nuclear’ is a dirty word? Edf’s distinction that doesn’t make sense when you consider the explosion occurred at a furnace used to burn low-level nuclear waste in a facility that also processes high-level nuclear waste. Could it be that EdF worries more about its reputation than the people it employs?”

    http://nuclear-news.net/2011/09/16/industrial-accident-is-the-new-wobbly-word-for-nuclear-accident/