“Truly Frightening”: Higher and higher radioactivity levels expected to continue for years in bluefin tuna (VIDEO)

Published: June 9th, 2012 at 12:50 pm ET
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“Five O’Clock Shadow” with Robert Knight
WBAI Radio (Monday -Thursday, 5p-6p ET)
June 7, 2012

ARNIE GUNDERSEN of Fairewinds Associates details the latest nuclear issues of Fukushima and the domestic environment [...]

At 9:45 in

It’s probably more serious than what you just said.

It’s truly frightening.

What happened was these fish were caught [and tested] five months after the accident…. but the research wasn’t published until June of this year. Scientists sat on this information for 8 or 9 months while waiting to get report published…

It still had body burdens of cesium that were surprisingly high for a fish that had only been near Fukushima for a couple of weeks.

And what’s been going on since then? We know cesium is being continually released via ground water and as well as being deposited from these plumes.

It’s likely that the next catch is going to be worse than the tuna they caught.

Every one of these tunas had high levels of cesium 134 and 137…

Cesium detected from surface to bottom of ocean

‘Snow’ falling through water column, loaded with cesium…

Concentration in small fish is higher than these tuna.

So one would expect that now as more and more tuna start to swim toward the US we’ll see higher and higher levels of radioactivity in the tuna.

I don’t think that trend is going to stop for the next couple of years.

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21 comments to “Truly Frightening”: Higher and higher radioactivity levels expected to continue for years in bluefin tuna (VIDEO)

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Information withheld for 8 or 9 months, and only pertains to one type of fish.

    Unfortunately, radiation doesn't effect one fish, or one crop.


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    • Cisco Cisco

      Don't want to do anymore testing until the summer vacation season is over. Hey, radioactive fish might scare the tourists away. The seafood restaurants would go broke, and that interferes with the free market system. Let the free market system take care of it, right? Regulations, we don’t need no stinkin’ regulations!

      Head on over to the Gulf of Mexico. I understand the oil and Corexit are considerably less toxic, and you can eat all the seafood you can stand. Brought to you by the good folks at BP.


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  • TomSmall

    And so the Bluefin Tuna, although weakened by radiation, will be spared the extinction that would have resulted in its continued predation by mankind.

    I have a plan about slowing the leak into the sea. The existing port can be filled in, with a ship not far offshore, resting in a pit on the bottom. The ship acts as a dike. The area between the beach and this ship is filled with concrete and soil, except for a canal that goes to the shore. It's a big, steel, US Navy ship brought out of mothballs, and modified to hold nuclear waste. In its side, extending below the water level, a large entrance is cut.

    Barges enter the ship this way. Their cargo is the radioactive materials loaded on them from the Fukushima site. The Navy ship will hold this material for centuries. The steel walls are very thick. Behind the ship, on the seaward side, are ships that house the workers, and bring in heavy equipment.

    Maybe a visitor to ENE News could do a drawing. I have a vivid picture of it in my mind; I would like people to see a drawing of the scene.


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    • Sickputer

      Good idea… Maybe the port is not quite that narrow for a ship to block it. The real problem is money. Nations are broke and people dying from invisible pollution can always be explained as "wasn't the radiation!"

      Or…. "You whiney sick people are always blaming other people for your own problems".

      Nobody is going to step forward until tens of millions of Japanese drop dead in a year. Even then they might not try to help… They will look for "miracle" antiradiation drugs they can sell for top dollar.

      I don't have much faith in humans solving this issue… We are all going down the tubes to a new life on Mutant Earth. Sick, deformed, short-lived bipeds.


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    • demo demo

      Bravo for visualizing a solution! I can see it, taste it. I'm not qualified to assess the feasibility, but if it turns out to be feasible, I'll work for Tom Small's idea. Ignore pessimistic naysayers. What if we gave up too soon without even trying, when the prob could have been mitigated, because of people who have not faith in humans. Our species is dumb/destructive, but we are also smart, flexible, creative, caring, so don't give up.


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  • alpha-tracker

    I'm quite glad Arnie is saying these levels detected in bluefin tuna aren't 'trivial' or 'low,' which was the conclusion of the mass media. What is interesting is how easily people have shrugged off this issue considering three things. One, as Arnie says, these are high levels – does anyone know for a fact that there have been higher detected levels of cesium in U.S. food history!?
    Two, no one, not even the CNN-caliber media sources that broke this story on Memorial Day bothered to click on the free, online manuscript's supplement! Had they, they would have found the supplement listed the lab results for all 15 samples, and one sample (sample #8) is 50% higher than the average, which is 10.3 Bq/kg for cesium-134+137. No one to my knowledge caught this in their 'research nets'. So, be it now known: bluefin tuna sample #8 had 6.2 becquerels per kilogram of cesium-134 and 9.4 becquerels per kilogram of cesium-137, or a total of 15.6 becquerels/kilogram of cesium-134+137. That's 50% higher than was mentioned in the news.

    Three, cesium-134 was found in albacore tuna in March 2012 in a product of Vital Choice, which sells seafood to Americans and the world. This cesium-134 was found in halibut and albacore tuna and these more popular seafood delights will keep getting more radioactive with time.

    Here's the supplement: http://www.pnas.org/content/suppl/2012/05/23/1204859109.DCSupplemental/pnas.201204859SI.pdf#nameddest=STXT


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  • Radioactive fish (any species) will be canned. I would like to know it it will contaminate other items stored next to it in the warehouse. What about in your kitchen cabinets? Does the contamination keep spreading to anything in close proximity?


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    • fuckyoushima

      no

      and no.


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    • Sickputer

      I guess it would depend on whether the fish swallowed a pellet-sized chunk of MOX fuel. There's some in the ocean seashore off Fukushima.

      Btw…anybody know the status of their pave the ocean floor scheme?

      "TEPCO plans to literally pave the seabed along nearly one kilometer of shoreline at Fukushima Daiichi. The material to be used will be a mixture of clay (bentonite) and cement, 60 centimeters (~2 feet) thick. The paving is designed to keep radioactive sands and muds from migrating into the open ocean. The paving will cover more than 72,000 square meters within the existing “silt dams” that close off the quay areas inside the power complex break-walls. The seawater inside the dams has lost most of its radioactivity due to the cesium slowly precipitating onto the sea floor. As a result, the mud and sand inside the quay contains about 1.6 million Becquerels per kilogram of Cs-134 and Cs-137. The paving should keep the Cesium in the seabed from being picked up and carried away due to wave action. (Yomiuri Shimbun) The process will have two steps. First, a low-density layer will be laid down to capture any floating or suspended mud above the sea bed. The second layer will be a high density mixture to keep wave action from eroding the lower density mixture below. A test project will begin on February 25 (Saturday) and main construction in 3-4 months thereafter. (IAEA)"

      http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/fukushima-accident-updates/fukushima-27.html


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    • tomarsandbeyond tomarsandbeyond

      no. a tiny amount that is in the fish could maybe sicken you if you eat it. Could be an accumulation over time and be really bad for you if you eat more cans of this stuff. Then it might end up in your muscle tissue (or strontium could go into your bones etc.) But its not going to do anything to other cans. Any alpha particles would be stopped even by the paper can label, and certainly by the can itself. Those same particles could wreck havoc on cells in your body, though, if ingested.


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  • CB CB

    I posted a coffee product over in the off topics forum at June 8, 2012 at 2:59 pm. I thought it would ring some bells and whistles.


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  • captndano captndano

    1 fish taco, please…hold the fish.


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  • kintaman kintaman

    Never. Eating. Seafood. Again….


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  • pure water

    I remember A. Gungersen saying before, that he cosideres tuna safe till next year. This delayed evidence, appearing now, shows just how false data can make every scientific approach, not just wrong, but dangerous, because people believe it. I respect Arnie Gundersen, and his experience in estimating radiation levels, but unfortunately he, as everybody else, was given wrong numbers. Other people may call us here fear mongers, paranoya victims, or whatever. And the most simple logic is – When you face intentional lie, it is your duty to suspect, especially when it concerns life and health! Everybody makes mistakes, but hiding a triple meltdown is a criminal act, not a mistake! I do not understand why people do not question every single number on this matter!


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    • dharmasyd dharmasyd

      @ pure water. I could be wrong, but I think Arnie was talking about salmon, that salmon would probably be "fairly safe" till next year. Then, although he loves salmon, he would probably quit eating salmon.

      So I don't think Arnie made a mistake. I don't think he discussed tuna, but I know he talked of salmon.


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  • Insight

    According to USDA reports, Japan exports $793 million worth of agricultural products, mostly processed foods, to the U.S. every year. About $235 million of that is seafood. As with other agricultural products, most Japanese seafood comes to the U.S. in some form of processed good, such as fish cakes, though Japan does export a fair amount of fresh scallops.

    Potassium iodide is the only FDA-approved medication available to treat contamination with radioactive iodine. There are FDA-approved products available that increase the rate of elimination of other radioactive elements. They include:

    Calcium-DTPA and Zinc DTPA, Hameln Pharmaceuticals. Approved to treat known or suspected internal contamination with plutonium, americium, or curium to increase the rates of elimination.
    Radiogardase (Prussian blue insoluble capsules), HEYL Chemisch-Pharmazeutische Fabrik GmbH & Co. KG. Approved to treat known or suspected internal contamination with radioactive cesium and/or radioactive or non-radioactive thallium to increase their rates of elimination.


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