Published: March 5th, 2013 at 2:20 pm ET
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Title: ‘I am one of the Fukushima fifty’: One of the men who risked their lives to prevent a catastrophe shares his story
Source: The Independent
Author: David McNeill
Date: March 2, 2013
h/t Anonymous tip
They displayed a bravery few can comprehend, yet very little is known about the men who stayed behind to save Japan’s stricken nuclear plant. In a rare interview, David McNeill meets Atsufumi Yoshizawa, who was at work on 11 March 2011 when disaster struck [...]
Source: NHK
The engineer says he moved offsite for a few days to a disaster-response building in the town of Okuma, 5 km away. But on 15 and 16 March 2011 the situation at Daiichi reached its most critical phase. A series of hydrogen explosions had left much of the complex a tangled mess of radioactive concrete and steel. Unit three had exploded, three reactors were in meltdown and over 1000 fuel rods [assemblies] in the reactor four building, normally covered under 16 feet of water, had boiled dry, raising the spectre of a nuclear fission chain reaction. In his darkest moments, Mr Yoshizawa admits he shared the same fear as other experts – that the crisis could also trigger the evacuation of the Fukushima Daini plant 10 km away. [...]
See also: Gundersen soon after 3/11: Photo shows nuclear fuel is exposed to air at Fukushima Unit 4 fuel pool -- Clean path for plutonium to escape offsite (VIDEO)
Published: March 5th, 2013 at 2:20 pm ET
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this is the first public statement that the SFP at Unit 4 went dry
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Rod Adams….don't you think you owe a lot of people an apology? Starting with the Chairman of the NRC and working your way down to Enenewsers:
Atomic Rod: "The temperature in the Fukushima Daiichi Unit 4 spent fuel pool never exceeded 90 degrees C and the level in the pool never fell below the top of the used fuel that was stored there. The Chairman of the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the people who supported his testimony to Congress on the afternoon of March 16, 2011 were dead wrong." —October 16, 2012
http://atomicinsights.com/2012/10/oak-ridge-researchers-prove-fukushima-unit-4-spent-fuel-pool-never-a-danger.html
SP: Oh there was somebody that was dead wrong…look in your mirror.
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These pimps of nuke are disgusting, criminally disgusting.
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Rod really does need to stop lying.
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Nope he must continue, his ego and livelihood depend on it.
Sorry, as we win battle by battle, plant closing by plant closing, he will get the wake up call he requires.
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I don't get it.
Any steam coming up in #4 means the pool is not completely dry and steam will still afford some cooling and parts of the rod assemblies that were exposed are not on fire, at least no flames in this video. Besides that, stored fuel rods are surrounded by boron filled shields that would need to fail and if Arnie was worried about putting out a spent fuel rod fire because water would be useless in that situation, it didn't happen as they refilled the pool(s).
Then the follow on link 'See also: Gundersen soon after 3/11' has Arnie talking about a 'fuel bridge' in the pool, that would be in #3's pool with its fuel bridge in it not #4's. If any pool went completely dry, it has to be #3 before or during its explosion.
More than likely #3 pool water flashed to steam sometime during the explosions. And if plutonium was a worry, it would have been more apt to come out from #3 in quantity not from the #4 pool. Besides #3's pool seems to be missing a lot of fuel rods from the videos and pics. Hence broken fuel rods freeing up plutonium and other nasty stuff found near and far around the plant site came from #3 not from #4.
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How would you even know if the steam coming up was from the elevated spent fuel pool, or from beneath it? Just asking. it's honestly confusing to follow the contruction of these buildings. And we don't get to get very close, do we?
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Razz the reports on spent fuel pool 4 are simply contradictory
There were plenty of early reports about a fire in unit 4 pool reported in the media.
The NRC transcripts indicate the sides of the unit 4 pool were gone.
Then, days later, the IAEA reported that the fires in 4 were somehow put out.
That report disappeared from the web. I should have taken a screen shot.
But something happened later in 2011 to spent fuel pool 4. I do have before-and-after screen shots. It looks like something was melted on unit 4 building, as evident in the shot from 2012 available here
http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2013/02/cesium-in-japan.html
I have no idea what really happened…
There are many theories, including some proposed by Sickputer and James
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The recent Reuters article linked by admin says this about Unit 4:
"Tepco's most immediate challenge is to remove spent fuel from pools at the plant, starting with reactor No.4, where more than 1,500 rods rest inside a pool that was exposed to the atmosphere after an explosion blew off the top of the unit's building.
Debris from the top of the reactor building, where radiation levels are too high for humans, has had to be removed painstakingly using cranes and other lifting equipment to get to the spent fuel pool."
http://enenews.com/reuters-interviews-fukushima-worker-i-get-stomach-aches-they-should-give-us-a-medal-nhk-thick-steel-plates-cover-ground-due-to-radioactive-substances
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Here's all that's said about Unit 4 on Scientific American's Fukushima timeline:
March 15, 2011
"A fire breaks out in the unit 4 reactor building. Japanese authorities believe that the spent fuel storage pool is burning, releasing radiation into the atmosphere."
March 22, 2011
"Workers are still pumping seawater in units 2, 3 and 4"
March 24, 2011
"Water levels in Unit 4's spent fuel pool are dangerously low; 135 metric tons of seawater are injected."
"Smoke is observed coming from units 1, 2, 3 and 4."
March 30, 2011
"White smoke or steam is observed at units 1, 2, 3 and 4"
18 April 2011 – 17 June 2011
"Crews continue cooling reactors 1, 2 and 3 as well as the spent fuel pools of units 1, 2, 3 and 4."
31 January 2012
"A disconnected pipe leaks seven metric tons of radioactive water into reactor Unit 4's building. The water reportedly remains inside the power plant and the leak is stopped shortly after its discovery."
http://www.scientificamerican.com/media/multimedia/0312-fukushima-timeline/#1
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Here's wikipedia's timeline for Unit 4:
Tuesday, March 15
"approx. 06:00 An explosion damaged the 4th floor rooftop area of the Unit 4 reactor as well as part of the adjacent Unit 3"
"A fire breaks out at unit 4."
Wednesday, March 16
"At approximately 14:30 TEPCO announces its belief that the fuel rod storage pool of unit 4 – which is located outside the containment area[32] — may have begun boiling, raising the possibility that exposed rods could reach criticality."
Thursday, March 17
"During the morning Self-Defense Force helicopters drop water four times on the spent fuel pools of units 3 and 4."
"In the afternoon it is reported that the unit 4 spent fuel pool was filled with water and none of the fuel rods were exposed."
Friday, March 18
"The loss of fuel pool cooling water at unit 4 is classified as a level 3."
Monday, March 21
"A new power line is laid to unit 4."
Tuesday, March 22
"supply cable is connected to unit 4"
Sunday, March 27
An aerial video recorder shows:
"White vapour, possibly steam, emanating from the buildings of reactors 2, 3, and 4."
"The walls of the reactor 4 building have also collapsed."
Monday, April 11
"Workers have also knocked holes through the turbine hall buildings of units 2 and 4 to accommodate hoses for the water transfer."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster
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You missed the timeline for Unit 3 on the 15th…
Tuesday, 15 March
approx. 06:00 An explosion damaged the 4th floor rooftop area of the Unit 4 reactor as well as part of the adjacent Unit 3. [26]
11:00: A second explosion of reactor 3 (according to The World Meteorological Organization report)
Wiki makes note of the WMO report and when I downloaded the report I couldn't open all of it, graphs, charts, pics? WMO monitors and models atmospheric problems areas.
Wonder what the source of information was for reporting a Unit 3 second explosion on 3/15 11:00?
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UN Agency: Reactor 3 exploded a second time 24 hours later — Then wind and rain brought high levels of radiation over Tokyo, Sendai, Nagano
http://enenews.com/un-agency-reactor-3-exploded-a-second-time-24-hours-later-then-wind-and-rain-brought-high-levels-of-radiation-over-tokyo-sendai-nagano
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Summary Report of RSMC Beijing on Fukushima Nuclear Accident Emergency Response, WORLD METEOROLOGICAL ORGANIZATION (United Nations), Oct. 27, 2011:
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC0QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wmo.int%2Fpages%2Fprog%2Fwww%2FDPFSERA%2FMeetings%2FCG-NERA_Vienna2011%2Fdocuments%2FDoc-5-4-China.doc&ei=EEn7TpVQksC2B9u6qNAG&usg=AFQjCNEAY-JAKz38DrEHLefh1MGtyC4dqQ
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Granted, some fuel rods heated up and have split open, dumping their fuel pellets in pile somewhere or maybe even a some fuel rods caught fire somewhere onsite because of being isolated from cooling, that probably did happened.
Steam and smoke act different. Even if the spent fuel was exposed and the steam passing by wasn't enough to cool it down on the outside while inside the rods continued it decay heating, they started refilling the pooling anyway with salt or freshwater before (most of) the fuel rods heated up enough to burn on their own. In #3 we really can't see how much left the building yet but probably blew out before it burnt out.
Also in comparison #4 was crammed packed and over-limit with fuel assemblies. #3 had a typical load of spent fuels that had been cooling down, not counting any fresh MOX fuel loads.
Not to beat a dead horse but have to keep the events straight as misplaced quotes or uncorrected mistakes are being used to describe what happened.
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So what do you think happened to 4?
I really don't know but am trying to figure it out.
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A spent fuel pond can be dry and steam is produced from the zirconium cladding as explained here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=eCfMtp2iD88C&pg=PA747&lpg=PA747&dq=steam+from+zirconium+rods&source=bl&ots=PQfIQ5oIlt&sig=WKkzbwTQDScxXiu51Ougq84DhXg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=irg2UcC8HqqK2QWozIGYBQ&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAQ
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Starr quotes Alvarez in the clip posted at Enenews http://enenews.com/scientist-discusses-fukushima-disaster-during-highly-informative-interview-audio
There is enough cesium in 34 assemblies to make 5000 miles technically uninhabitable.
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That link discussed fuel cladding interacting with steam during steam injection tests.
You can't produce steam unless you have a water source and a heat source.
The only way hot zirconium cladding reacts with water/steam is by splitting H2O into an explosive hydrogen/oxygen mixture and it can do that using the surrounding air moisture when condition are right, that is why putting water on a cladding fire would make it a worse fire.
You will have to quote how fuel rod cladding makes steam without water.
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We wondered about that from the start. Reactor 4 looked in worse shape than the bombed-out Murrah Building in Oklahoma City, and we were clueless as to how it could "contain" ANYTHING. Yet people kept saying they were fearful that it would topple or collapse. And we were thinking, what could still be in there ANYWAY? We always suspected that all, or at least most, of the damage happened in the first few days and it was irretrievable. We just never hear much about reactors 5 & 6. But we wonder if that's not because they were "saved," but because they were devoted to some top military secret project that was not supposed to be happening at that plant at all. Only time will tell….
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What looks like steam may be metal burning.
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" Only time will tell "
Wishful thinking… They may never tell the truth..
As for the steam, umm, maybe the millions of gallons of water they were/are pumping THRU the reactors…
The gasses lever lie, they had open air fission going on..
Period….
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What is next?
Fukushima power plant getting out of control???
Still expecting some special worse case scenario before evacuating Tokyo???
Think twice and act fast. People life is being put into a gambling machine.
http://kanaky.x90x.net
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