Fukushima chief was pleading for help from U.S. military: “Fire’s broken out at Reactor 4… We can’t do anything… please” — Leader turned pale after seeing flames and black smoke near fuel pool — Worker tries to have last meal before dying and realizes he’s unable to taste food

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Kyodo News (Part 11), Sept. 28, 2014 (emphasis added): Fearing a massive discharge of radiation on March 15, 2011, Fukushima No. 1 plant chief Masao Yoshida told [the Tepco] head office in Tokyo that he had to consider evacuating the majority of on-site employees. This followed a report at 6:14 am earlier in the day… suggesting the containment vessel had been damaged. Yet Tepco officials… did not share Yoshida’s sense of urgency, with one official saying it could just have been a pressure gauge glitch. Yoshida responded furiously. “It doesn’t make sense for us to remain when the radiation level rises!” he shouted as he hastily donned a white safety helmet… Yoshida, 56, strove to convey that the plant was in such a critical state that anything could happen… there was no area within the No. 1 plant where plant workers could stay for long because of alarming radiation levels

Kyodo News (Part 12), Sept. 28, 2014: There was no doubt that the fuel meltdown was worsening in reactor 2, in addition to the core meltdowns that had already occurred in reactors 1 and 3, as radiation levels at the plant were rising. But workers could do nothing more than maintain seawater injections to cool fuel [most of which leaked before entering the reactors, and water that did make it accelerated the melting process]… At 7:02 am, the level around the main gate reached 882 microsieverts per hour…

Kyodo News (Part 13), Sept. 28, 2014: At 9 a.m. on March 15… the radiation level at the plant’s main gate had reached a terrifying 11,930 microsieverts per hour, the highest reading measured outdoors… [As equipment restoration team leader Takeyuki Inagaki] and a colleague drove down the slope west of reactors 2 and 3, they saw flames and black smoke coming from the fourth floor of the reactor 4 building. Inagaki turned pale… “A fire has broken out at reactor 4. (We) can’t do anything. Please ask the Self-Defense Forces or U.S. military for help,” Yoshida pleaded with Tepco officials via a teleconference system at 9:39 amhigh radiation levels were also measured around the unit 4 building. “Is this going to be my graveyard?” [Tomoyuki Arai of Tepco’s firefighting unit] thought to himself… “The situation is not getting that much worse,” Yoshida [said]. Inagaki, the equipment restoration team chief, who joined the conversation, said radiation levels remained high… “we will quickly run out of people under this amount of radiation”… Yoshida said.

Toshiyuki Hayashida, 43, safety control team member, Sept. 28, 2014: Fearing he would not survive the escalating crisis, and at a loss for words, he [emailed his wife] just a single sentence: “Please take care of everything for me.” He then spoke by radio with two of his co-workers measuring radioactivity near the complex’s main gate. “If the radiation level soars, run for your lives”… [He] grabbed canned beef and… thought to himself, “This is going to be my last meal.”… [He] grabbed a spoonful… and realized he had lost his sense of taste.

See also: Top US Official in Japan: Take it slow “without just running the military in there” for us to feel better — Wait so it’s “without a lot of loss of life” — Spent fuel and pellets are all over Fukushima plant

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  • Nick

    "The time has come for the Hiroshima Syndrome to be exposed for what it is…a subtle but significant widespread psychosis predicated on fictions!"
    http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/about-the-author.html

    Okay, I think I have a handle on what the nuclear industry hopes we
    learn:

    Try: People who are afraid of nuclear technology are deluded and actually harm the planet via global warming with their fears.

    Then WHY are we NEVER told the truth about nuclear accidents or waste issues?

    Why are we TOLD that tritium isn't a problem since it can't be filtered?

    Why are we TOLD that humans have evolved with natural radiation so what is the big deal with human made trans-uranium isotopes?

    etc.

    etc.

    Do read http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/ to get a jist of the idiocy of FC, etc.

    • Personally, I would not even print or mention the link.

      Even the site's name is misleading. 😉

      IMO – There nothing worth reading or anywhere near factual at that website.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Leslie is buying the global warming theory hook line and sinker and believes Nuclear Power is the solution even as the Nuclear Radioactive Isotope Releases worldwide have raised the background radiation levels astronomically in such a very short time period. 70 Years is a very short time..
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_gradient

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Nick, the hiroshimasyndrome blogsite author, Leslie Corrice, is a former nuclear power plant employee, whose main object in life appears to be to convince us that only neutron radiation from nuclear bombs is dangerous, and that all of the alpha and beta emitting isotopes from Fukushima can't be harmful because they have no "penetrating" power, that is, they can't get inside the body. We can only breathe in the noble gases, he says, and because they are inert, we breathe them back out again. Unfortunately, anyone who has NOT been brain-washed by the nuclear industry knows this approach is patent nonsense. We know from innumerable scientific articles, none of which are cited by this poor brain-washed guy, that the chronic intake of radionuclides in food, air, and water, can and will eventually lead to innumerable negative health outcomes, such as miscarriage, cancers, diabetes, health disease, and, perhaps the worst, genomic instability. This is why the grandchildren of both nuclear veterans and accident survivors have higher morbidity and mortality rates. Mr Corrice's site is disingenuous and full of dangerous lies – like 'we need nuclear power to stop global warming, and, 'the only true environmentalists are those in favour of nuclear power', etc. Read this blog only if you want a complete summary of the lies the nuclear industry has told to its students and employees since these crimes against humanity began in 1945.

  • Checkmate

    Hey FatChecker with over over 40 years in the nuke industry, I have a question for you. Since you are so much of an expert and can you compare yourself to Madame Curie? If you can't: Then have you ever read completely all through Madam Curie's notes on the papers that are locked in a lead box in order to claim yourself as an expert? And the same thing goes for all the nuke scientists. And FatChecker do you know any living scientist or professors who have read them in order to be considered an actual expert? And any experts who can claim Madame Curie wrote in her notes that there is absolutely some safe radiation levels??? FatChecker have you read them? I would think that it is important to get it straight from the source, unaltered- what she said in that locked lead box.
    Anybody out there that has read MADAME CURIE'S NOTES IN THAT LOCK LEAD BOX and can attest to this???? We are not looking for so called copies of it, we are looking for the original document that is true unaltered. Just asking, experts please step forward.
    Any Professors read it that are teaching their students in college? Please step forward…

    • Thank you. Almost everything I have learned about radiation has come from the comments section. It's already large enough without having to weed through all of the crap shat out by FactChecker and his other nom de plumes. However, in refuting his crackpot theories, you all have added a great deal of information and great ammunition to use against pro-nuclear shills and the MSM sycophants.

      Have a beautiful day!

      • Kelly, The offensive term 'shat' is indeed a very good word used to describe the past tense of the bot shit 'IT' emits in a mall on a phone bot; in a lame attempt to impress a potential girlfriend.

        And the result of entertaining one of these nuketard zombies is ALWAYS a better understanding of what radiation and food chemical dementia does to a young, inexperienced ego…

    • FactChecker

      You really dont understand what is being taught in college with respect to radiation safety.

      Nothing you stated is news to me. Every one knows about Madame Curie. That is how radiation protection started.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Have you taught all the populations now sucking down your poisons how to protect themselves?

        Am I missing all the classes inside the local civic centers. 🙂

        Are you selling white jumps suits and masks to everyone downwind/current from Fukushima?

        Protection in a very controlled by others working environment is much different than in the real world where others are not protected at all… 🙁

        • FactChecker

          You missed basic nuclear engineering and radiation protection sciences at the university.

          • Sickputer

            I am damn glad I missed radiation classes considering how the grant hungry colleges got sucked into being an extension for the nuclear industry. Money corrupted truth in science. I think the headlines today about major differences in radiation levels shows who is protecting their vested interests.

            These words ring true today of Benito Juarez who denounced the condescending air of Maximilan of Hapsburg in the 1860s struggle against the French trying to enslave the country of Mexico:

            "It is given to men, sometimes, to attack the rights of others, to seize their goods, to threaten the life of those who defend their nationality, and to make that the highest virtues seem crimes, and to give their own vices the luster of true virtue. But there is a thing that cannot be reached either by falsification nor perfidy, and that is the tremendous verdict of history. She will judge us."

            SP: Nuclear apologists portray us as ignorant little children with their reassuring words that cesium and other radioactive isotopes are just as harmless as bananas.

            Nucleoapes got away with lies before the Information Age. But now their words and deeds come back to remind us who are the real Mother Earth rapists. It's not the Green movement citizens.

            One example of how they rape the earth is the refueling process at all nuclear facilities. When the shrouds of the reactor vessel is lifted, the toxins escape their vaunted "safe" containment buildings. Killing their own neighbors.

            • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

              I think you finished your argument with the completion of the 1st paragraph SP,LOL. I've already gotten past soc-puppet even before figuring out he's an insignificant or has-been nobody with an awful lot of free time to chuck the fat out here all day & night for a guy claiming such prestige & academic success[gag]lolol. He's like a damned fly that keeps coming back after you thought he finally flew out the door or window,eventually you learn to ignore it after wasting more time than a winged maggot deserves of even a single moment of our lives and pretty soon its alone in the corner of the window belly-up like Fukushima and ALL NPP's will be soon enough. I'm done with it now & hope I'm joined with those others reaching the same conclusions? I stopped even looking at his posts or replies after I saw the one claiming some argument he posed that was missing from the threads as a victory??!! WTH?lol…no worries though,he'll come back like a Phoenix rising from the nuclear ashes as our best bud,The Boy Blunder in his cape,tights,wing tipped high-heeled sneakers with a big,glowing buckeyball logo on his chest to save us from harmful radiation rumor. 😉 Till then,"shoo fly",don't bother me!…………

      • You didn't answer the question. Again, you deflected. You compared yourself to Marie Curie. You were asked if you had read the papers or if anyone else had read the papers that are kept in a locked lead box because the papers will still be radioactive for 1500 years. She died of aplastic anaemia, a blood disease that often results from exposure to large amounts of radiation.

        "Every one knows about Madame Curie. That is how radiation protection started." That is not answering the question. The answer to the question is no, you have not read the papers, nor has anyone who works in your industry, which is the professional shill industry. I guess PR firms have a hard time founding people with a background in nuclear physics willing to sit around in their parent's basement churning out drivel on a news site.

        And by the way enenews is about energy related matters. It was originally Florida Oil Spill Law and then Fukushima happened and he created a new site. The admin has also posted stories on other oil spills, sink holes, and fracking. The site is to make people aware of the consequences of our energy consumption. It is not an anti-nuke site; it is a pro-information site. The admin doesn't editorialize or opine. We are free to do what we want with the information. Many campaign against nuclear energy and weapons because there is no safe way to store nuclear materials. We cannot ask the next 250,000 generations to take care of our nuclear garbage.

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Marie Curie died of a vicious, virulent form of blood cancer, previous;y unseen by the medical doctors who at attended her, after she and he husband spent hers hand-sifting through a ton of uranium ore in order to distill one gram of radium. Over the years, she and her husband got progressively weaker and more exhausted without really understanding why. He died of absent-mindedness after stepping into the path of an oncoming vehicle. Both Marie and one of her daughters died of radiation-induced cancer.

  • Checkmate

    Now Enenewers, let see the real radiation experts step forth…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Check and mate! 🙂

  • Cdog Cdog

    Checkmate take SP's advice and just ignore fake cheesy. He/she/it is just a payed shill who's every statement is influenced through money. Classic psychopathic lack of human compassion.

    Sadly I believe life only started to exist due to the unique circumstances that allowed radiation levels on the planet to resided. This is no longer the case and I also fear we have already passed the ELE tipping point.

    But fear not in 500 million years hen life starts to dominate the planet again you will be back!

    I believe it is true natural radiation levels on the planet was essentially non excitant until 1944-45. I believe that cancer rates were also extremely low at less than 5% of the population. Cause and effect. Cancer rates at 1/4 before 3/11, now at 1/3 to 1/2. Proving this point is nearly impossible. All old data is lost or being corrupt. No way to prove one way or the other, as people used to die we rarely knew why anyways.

    I also fear that the research coming out of Chernobyl proved that being continually exposed to 40bq or less worth of "whatever" radioactive internal pollution will lead to cancer.
    Were way beyond those numbers now throughout most of Japan's local food.

    Not much else I can do except keep my vitamin levels topped up, watch my foods and barcodes, filter my air and water, avoid the rain, take zeolite or betonite (I think) clay, and try to encourage my fellow man to listen to reason whenever I feel its actually possible.

  • Crickets Crickets

    I think the problem with Factchucker is that he's blinded by his profession. How does that saying go "If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail?" He's obsessed with his work and ignores the big picture. What's that other saying "Can't see the forest for the trees?" He sees nuclear energy as a solution to everything….famine, disease, economy, so he ignores and fears anything that would damage his thought process and lashes out at anyone that tries to help him understand his problem.

    • FactChecker

      You dont have the timeline I have in this discovery. Prior to 311 you probably were just going about your dull pathetic life. Now you have something you believe in. Good for you.

      People like you think people involved in technology are closed minded. If that were true, air travel would have never got off the ground. There would be no one willing to be a pilot.

      Glad to see that nuclear technology will move forward despite the antinuclear establishment that weakens our security an energy options.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        “During a classified speech given in ‘Building X’ on a Sunday afternoon in October 1946, [Dr. Stafford] Warren sketched the apocalypse he feared would come. ‘Soon the number of bombs which will have been let off will have made available so much radioactivity that it will seriously damage our food supplies and make serious changes in our world economy. Tis is not a figment of the imagination at all.’ To the security-cleared audience, he added the following warning:
        “‘You need only to absorb a few micrograms of plutonium and other long-life fission materials, and then know that you are going to develop a progressive anemia or a tumor in from 5 to 15 years. This is an insidious hazard and an insidious lethal effect hard to guard against. It has a tremendous morale-destroying effect. Would you want to live tin an area which was contaminated with something that was all around you which you couldn’t eliminate and which would get on your clothes, in your house, in the water, in the milk, and all the food?’…”
        Eileen Welsome. The Plutonium Files: America’s Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold War (1999), p. 178-79.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Your progress agendas are killing this planet…and you seem to be very proud about it all.

        • FactChecker

          It is not killing the planet and I am very proud of my work to make the planet safer.

          Your premise is false. You are not being rational.

          Is ENE an antinuclear news aggregator or just a news aggregator?

          Cmon choose. Your choice may be the reason I stay or go.

          I'll let you make the call on behalf of all ENEnewsers. Think you can handle that?

          Here is your chance.

          ALL you have to do is admit ENE is an antinuclear aggregator.

          • This is what I posted above. I will answer your question, again.

            And by the way enenews is about energy related matters. It was originally Florida Oil Spill Law and then Fukushima happened and he created a new site. The admin has also posted stories on other oil spills, sink holes, and fracking. The site is to make people aware of the consequences of our energy consumption. It is not an anti-nuke site; it is a pro-information site. The admin doesn't editorialize or opine. We are free to do what we want with the information. Many campaign against nuclear energy and weapons because there is no safe way to store nuclear materials. We cannot ask the next 250,000 generations to take care of our nuclear garbage.

            But you, Mr. Incompetent Shill, have not answered any questions. Your are so full of BS. Normally I ignore you (in your other various forms of trolling here – I am a good writer and bookstore owner and can instantly spot your bad prose and weak to non-existent capability of expressing anything of substance (probably just a bot), but I happen to be in a pissy mood today, having spent too much time on the internet reading about the police state, so I am more than a little peeved at people like you sucking the government titty to spew a bunch of excrement over the internet. Your online personality is that of one who suffers form Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Pushing the nuclear agenda makes you psychopathic, too. If you were more intelligent, you would be…

          • RaDiaTed JeWeLz RaDiaTed JeWeLz

            So, is that what we have to do to get you to go away? For GOOD?

          • Arizonan Arizonan

            FactChecker, get an open mind, instead of a brain-washed mind. Why not actually READ the data from independent scientists, proving that low level radiation is a DNA-mutating cancer time bomb? http://www.euradcom.org/2011/ecrr2010.pdf

  • Dick Shenary

    Someone has suggested that FactChucker and friends just might be a computer program that looks for key words. How disappointing! Here is one of the best ways to deal with live human shills. Avoid insulting them with name calling, they seek this response. Ask them serious questions and they will either not answer, or if they do answer, be ready to pounce. Ignore most of the blather that they put out, and drill into those questions that they cannot answer without appearing to be very wrong and stupid.

  • Dick Shenary

    Last night FactChucker was very active on this site until 10 PM when I asked him a serious question and then he vanished. Perhaps he will be reborn again with a new name. May I suggest FactShredder.

    • FactChecker

      I have a life, unlike your ilk that ensconced themselves on the computer waiting for an immediate response. I was actively engaged in watching a very competitive baseball game.

      Now I have answered your questions so please answer this:

      Do you think ENE is a news aggregator or an antinuclear news aggregator?

      Because if you believe the former, I have every right to be here without being abused by people who are weak minded and just plain angry that someone dare be here questioning their beliefs.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        You should watch less or no TV and study more about the damage your industry is currently doing to this planet.

        • FactChecker

          All nuclear professionals learn about risks of radiation. Since society has not been compromised, your assertion is false.

          You make general statements without any scientific merit.

          Your hatred for nuclear and its people is a sign of psychopathy for a specific group you know nothing about.

      • SadieDog

        Does anybody else sense there are more than one person playing troll du jour?

        • FactChecker

          I have every right to be here without being subject to name calling.

          Is ENE a news aggregator or an "antinuclear news aggregator"

          If it is an antinuclear news aggregator, then maybe Ill go somewhere else, satisfied that the constituency here doesnt give a rats ass about the truth.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            Plutonium From Fukushima Has Now Circled The Planet

            “A recently published study in the Journal of Environmental Radioactivity confirms that the radioactive fallout from the Fukushima nuclear disaster reached Europe (Lithuania), and included plutonium, the most deadly manmade element (nanogram for nanogram) in existence. According to the study's authors the radionuclide concentrations measured indicate there was 'long-range air mass transport from Japan across the Pacific, the North America and the Atlantic Ocean to Central Europe as indicated by modelling.' What this means is that every region under the jet stream — which includes half of the planet north of its equator — could have been exposed to some degree of plutonium fallout.”
            http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/plutonium-from-fukushima-has-now.html

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            Plutonium From Fukushima Has Now Circled The Planet

            “A recently published study in the Journal of Environmental Radioactivity confirms that the radioactive fallout from the Fukushima nuclear disaster reached Europe (Lithuania), and included plutonium, the most deadly manmade element (nanogram for nanogram) in existence. According to the study's authors the radionuclide concentrations measured indicate there was ‘long-range air mass transport from Japan across the Pacific, the North America and the Atlantic Ocean to Central Europe as indicated by modelling.’ What this means is that every region under the jet stream — which includes half of the planet north of its equator — could have been exposed to some degree of plutonium fallout.”
            http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/plutonium-from-fukushima-has-now.html

        • PlowboyGrownUp

          SadieD — Yep

        • It's a bot. They can;t have them run 24/7. I bet that if we put all of his other identities into a database, we would find that he says the same things over and over. Bots can answer simple questions. DARPA admitted to this a decade ago, so this isn't some surprise. Face it, they can't find a professional nuclear worker who will sit around on enenews and other sites spewing their drivel. That is something that is specifically designed for an AI program. A real nuclear industry worker bombarded with this much information about the evils of nuclear energy would at some point turn on his employers. You cannot have anyone with a conscience doing this job, which is why AI was designed. Look at the 9/11 sites. It is obvious which ones are bots. You can't be a human shill against the 9-11 movement. There is too much evidence that you cannot refute and at that point you will rebel against your employer. It's too dangerous. FactChecker is a DARPA bot. He is about as bright and ethical as the people who designed him.

      • Did you know that bots keep asking the same question over and over again?

        F, you failed the test, by refusing to answer 3 out of 4 questions.

        F on facts. F on knowledge, F on compassion.

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        Any news about nuclear that portrays it in a positive light is propaganda. Enenews is an aggregator of news about nuclear accidents and threats, which is never reported in the industry propaganda. Read reality for yourselves, with zillions of scientific references. Pronukers are like climate deniers – those pesky scientific studies keep tripping them up. http://www.euradcom.org/2011/ecrr2010.pdf

  • Pete

    Well maybe if they were so desperate for US military help, maybe they should have allowed those 2 huge pumps trucks the US brought in the next day to leave the port and drive to Fukushima. Instead they sat for what ten days because they didn't have the proper license to drive on the Japanese roads. Even now Japan lies and covers up the truth, IMO japan gov and tepco are one and the same, corrupt at the highest levels.

  • bo bo

    This video from @ 1:09 has the sound of water being poured into spent fuel pool 4 : 3/24/11

    Someone told me the hollow sound of water hitting the pool is proof that the pool was dried up at this point ( the claim was that it sounds like injected water is hitting solid concrete ) maybe.. I can't tell & not suggesting one way or the other just curious what others hear in this sound.

  • Daisy207

    For all those posters who contend that low level radiation is harmless – please put your head in a microwave for 30 seconds a day and report back to us after a week, and hold the button in so it runs when you hit start, since you won't be able to close the door. 30 seconds should be a low level dose – you can even put it on the lowest setting.

    • Dick Shenary

      Daisy207 – I know you are kidding. Microwave radiation is simply radio energy and cannot be considered nuclear radiation. Otherwise all microwaves would have to display the nuclear symbol. Epidemiologists are the ones that know the affects of low level nuclear radiation.

    • FactChecker

      Different part of the EM spectrum, but none the less dangerous.

      In fact, in wireless technology, wait about 20 years for the new crop of brain tumors from early cellular phones.

      Or you will find a way to blame it on nuclear. Weak.

  • curly

    Npp's would be a great way to generate electricity if they didn't emit radiation which is accumulative, if you had a real plan for the waste, and Murphy's law didn't exist. The end just doesn't justify the means in this case. Solar and wind would and with very few bad effects.

    • FactChecker

      NPP emissions during regular operations are benign. Consequences for NPP emissions under accident conditions have been grossly exaggerated. The waste issue can be addressed technically. Politically it is hard in the US, but other countries have addressed it adequately.

      Antinukes lament over "adequate protection" thinking adequate is not the term they like. They want absolute assurance and in this life, that is unrealistic for anything.

  • Nick

    Curly…

    NPPs are a great way to generate goodies for weapons. The electrical benefits are minor.

  • Nick

    If Unit #4's fool's pool burnt up, how are they removing rod assemblies?

    Or is that another TEPCon?

    Maybe we are all dead men walking?

  • Dick Shenary

    If I am not mistaken, reactors are the only way to generate badies for weapons. The electrical benefits now being used will pale in comparison to the costs of sequestering the wastes.

  • Adressing Nicks question, possibly some fuel rods melted and burned while some remained intact. Seems like it was a long time ago removal of fuel rods were announced and a information vaccuum seems to have occurred. Implying not all fuel can be removed. Was going to post in "post your radiation monitoring data here" but no box to post in no reply button last post Sept 29.
    Nevertheless I feel what I say isn't off topic here. I own a soeks o1m radiation detector which is basically a Russian military Geiger tube hooked up to electronics which convert counts per minutes to microSv per hour. Got some flack from someone as all my counts were normal readings implying to complainer that my posts minimized Fukushima effects. I stopped participating as I felt arguing would affect negatively the conversation.
    But the exercise of monitoring radiation with a cheap Geiger counter was a huge learning experience. My equipment is minimal at best. Can't test food or water detects mostly gamma.
    You need spectronomy equipment to test food and to identify isotopes to determine radiation source. People get high readings when it rains and think it's fallout when the reality is water is dissipating radon from ground to air. I live in a low radon area so readings are lower as rain washes air of radiation. All this to say only military and government have the capacity to ascertain the true radio active situation. The report on plutonium disipation has been written. Cont.

  • The report on plutonium dissipation has been written by us gov but will never be released to the general public or even whatever puppet president they put in place. Sure you can invest in expensive scintillator devices but not eating seafood works for me. Is sad all these stories of 311 come out years after the fact.
    The nuclear industry lies because it can. Your $1, 000 radiation detector is no more then a stone mallet next to what the US army has. Protect yourself the best you can but realise high readings reported could just as likely be a local npp refueling or US army unreported accident as fukushima fallout. Because the idiots in power have not the ability to dazzle us with brilliance. Only the habit of baffling us with Bullshit. Peace.

  • Ultimately the truth is radiation is a technically demanding subject few people understand and fewer have equipment to monitor the situation effectively. But is clear under reporting of Fukushima is happening. Clear cancer rates are climbing as econo.iv activity increases and clear we are living in a plutocracy and crystal clear the powers that be do not care about you or me.
    Clear the leave it to beaver world is a legend and poverty crime illegal drug use and circuses not bread is acceptable and the rich really are getting richer and the poor are increasing in numbers and the middle class will be a post ideal soon and further, in my estimation Fukushima triple melt through & fuel pool fire is just one aspect of the problem. Although the way info has been managed better then the radiation plutonium pollution has been managed is a perfect blueprint for everything wrong with society and the economic assault on this planet continues unabbated while the masses post verbal diareah on facebook. God Bless and Good Luck to all especially factchecker who has his head repeat in the sand. Peace.

  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    I wrote this in 2012, repost:

    Breath in

    Breath in a little Plutonium dust,
    Share the pain, the government says you must

    600 grams, enough to make ill 6 billion people
    So breath in deeply my dear little sheeple

    The Depopulation plan is in effect
    No where to run, no place to defect

    Those creating this poison will profit too from your ills,
    So be quiet, now just swallow your pills

    Rich with gold & jewels they will be
    but breath they must, just like you and me

    So even though they will take our money
    A dash of Plutonium will be mixed with their honey

    So fear not, justice will come
    As the Grim Reaper takes them home

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    The grim reaper is now moving throughout the oceans and also throughout the plains and Nuclear is certainly negatively affecting many of the human brains.. 🙁

  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    Fukushima radiation is not safe This brief video explains clearly how just 20 mSv of radiation will cause cancers & primarily KILL WOMEN & CHILDREN! The peer reviewed scientific studies are linked below the video.

    The largest study of 407,391 nuclear workers from 15 countries found increased cancer mortality exposed to just 2 mSv/y per year.

    ~Please Share~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywKv0dj3UuY

  • danger kitty danger kitty

    newsers,
    Just so y'all know- the socref creature is slashing back at the back end of this thread arguing with people who moved on 12 hours ago.
    Just like he's always done.
    That's called revising history, a favorite pastime of nukers. enough said bout that.
    That's called being a mastur of bated breath.
    OK, be the bitter man, socref.

  • How does a race that has no more fertile sperm available propagate??? How does destroying Earths bio systems help with some idiots happy meal hissy fit they are having over a misshapen Mc nugget??? How does radiating your brain with a idiot phone help with a global awareness crisis of lies??? How does ordering/shouting complete stupidity help the problem get resolved???? Because the corporate lies you believe today, will become YOUR only defense later with NO forethought whatsoever as to being SOLD south on your original intention to make a sound convincing point. MOOT is all we are in the perspective of social acceptance of what is truth and what is pure evil… MOOT!

  • FactChecker

    I killed this blog! VICTORY!

  • danger kitty danger kitty

    >>>>>>>>socref<<<<<<<
    A blanket statement of 'victory' is not proof.

  • rogerthat

    http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/tokyo-contaminated-not-fit-for-habitation-doctor-says/

    Tokyo Contaminated & Not Fit for Habitation, Doctor Says
    Posted on October 1, 2014 by Jean
    ISIS [INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE IN SOCIETY] Report 24/9/14

    All 23 districts of Tokyo contaminated with radiation from the Fukushima meltdown, worse than at Chernobyl after the accident, and blood cells of children under ten are showing worrying changes; the WHO, the IAEA & the Japanese government cannot be trusted Susie Greaves

    Please circulate widely and repost, but you must give the URL of the original and preserve all the links back to articles on our website. If you find this report useful, please support ISIS by subscribing to our magazine Science in Society, and encourage your friends to do so. Or have a look at the ISIS bookstore for other publications

    (Mita and Yablokov. Thorough, well sourced).

    • Sickputer

      Quote of the day from rogerthat's link:

      "In July 2014 Dr Shigeru Mita wrote a letter to his fellow doctors to explain his decision to move his practice from Tokyo to Okayama city in the West of Japan [1]. In it, he appeals to their sense of duty to answer the anxieties of parents in Japan who do not believe the information coming from the authorities. He says “I must state that the policies of the WHO, the IAEA or the Japanese government cannot be trusted.” and “if the power to save our citizens and future generations exists somewhere, it does not lie within the government or any academic association, but in the hands of individual clinical doctors ourselves.”

      SP: The enemy is legion and we are few.

      Bankers whisper into dictator ears the words of truth about nuclear energy: "Expensive, and meltdowns can destroy regions forever. The social and financial losses can bankrupt a nation morally, physically, and financially."

      Sayonara Tokyo and Japan…

    • SadieDog

      rogerthat and SP, Ypu guys are gonna hate me but I still say this guy is a fraud. Sorry. 🙁
      I will apologize of anyone can find any real info on him.

  • rogerthat

    off topic but useful when there's a disaster/emergency/meltdown i would imagine:

    http://ronmamita.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/meet-firechat-how-hong-kong-protesters-are-communicating-without-the-internet/

    The idea behind FireChat is simple. It’s a chatting app. After registering with a name — no email address or other personal identifiers required — you’re dropped into a fast-moving chatroom of “Everyone” using it in your country. The interesting aspect, however, is the “Nearby” option. Here, the app uses Apple’s Multipeer Connectivity framework, essentially a peer-to-peer feature that lets you share messages (and soon photos) with other app users nearby, regardless of whether you have an actual Wi-Fi or cellular connection.

    You read that correctly. You’re able to send and receive messages even when you don’t have a data connection. FireChat accomplishes this magic by allowing each device to connect directly to others nearby using Bluetooth, peer-to-peer Wi-Fi, or traditional Wi-Fi networks. Because you’re connecting directly with other users, you don’t actually need to be connected over Wi-Fi or a cellular network…

  • gomekwins gomekwins

    been taking a break from posting, but still lurking nearly daily. more people read these threads than you might think… keep up the good fight.. I hope to be back and posting regularly in about three more weeks. particularly happy to see that newsers are still beating back the shills, even in this very page of this thread. kudos to all the non shills, especially liked Kelly Ann thomas's ripping of fatchecker.

    the schools and media and authorities will parrot and tow lines, but we will prevail. might not be able to stop then before even larger portions of the earth are uninhabitable due to rads… sad
    ..but hopeful

    • rogerthat

      http://www.germanenergyblog.de
      E.ON Reportedly Filed Lawsuits Because of Shutdown Orders for Nuclear Power Plants During Moratorium
      Published on October 2, 2014 in Court and Nuclear. 0 Comments
      Tags: e.on, moratorium.
      Reportedly E.ON has filed lawsuits claiming damages of approximately EUR 380 million because of the shutdown orders for its nuclear power plants Unterweser and Isar 1 that were issued as part of a 3-month moratorium on nuclear power in Germany in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear accident in Japan in 2011.

      Continue reading ‘E.ON Reportedly Filed Lawsuits Because of Shutdown Orders for Nuclear Power Plants During Moratorium’

      by Matthias Lang

  • rogerthat

    http://www.germanenergyblog.de/?p=16991#more-16991
    (energy in germany – legal issues, facts and opinions)

    Last week leading energy experts from Germany and France met for talks on the security of supply in Europe and a future electricity market design in view of the changing energy landscape in both countries and the growing amount of renewable energy sources. The conference that was held in Berlin was organised by the German Energy Agency (dena), the Federal Association of the Energy and Water Industry (BDEW) and the French Energy Association UFE (Union Française de l’Électricité).

    Representatives from the industry and politics agreed that answers had to be found on the European level. French-German cooperation played a key role, dena said, pointing out that market mechanisms that strengthened the security of supply in Europe were an important topic of the discussions as well as solutions aimed at syncronising renewable growth with grid expansion, market integration of renewables and the management of the electricity demand.

    Hildegard Müller, Chairwoman of the General Executive Management Board of BDEW, stressed that her association was in talks with UFE to find cross-border solutions for ensuring the security of supply based on concepts developed in Germany and France, which were market-oriented, transparent and compatible with EU law…

    – interesting stuff on how europe is coping with a changing world, and worth watching. it looks like a very good resource

  • rogerthat

    http://www.germanenergyblog.de/?p=16947#more-16947

    … VKU points out the due to the many renewable power plants conventional power plants are needed less to generate power, but more and more (only) to provide operating reserve in case wind and solar power are not available. Providing secure back-up power becomes increasing important, yet there is little investment in modern, flexible power plants, VKU data show. Mr Reck therefore called for a capacity market (which would remunerate operators for providing flexible capacity), saying it was an insurance for the security of supply. Regarding the capacity market discussion, please see the links below, in particular the first link to a post on the latest studies presented by the Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy and further steps…

  • rogerthat

    i was reading this:

    http://poet-in-residence.blogspot.com.au

    QUOTES FOR OUR TIMES . . . .

    "Sometimes all the king's horses and all the king's men shouldn't try to put Humpty together again." Arnie Gundersen

    "Of all the places in the world where no one in their right mind would build scores of nuclear power plants, Japan would be pretty near the top of the list." Leuren Moret

  • rogerthat

    … it also has this:

    ENERGY NEWS
    http://enenews.com/
    Arnie Gundersen's FAIREWINDS

    http://www.fairewinds.com/
    RT NEWS

    http://www.youtube.com/RT
    EMSC-CSEM

    European based earthquake website
    DEMOCRACY NOW TV

    http://www.democracynow.org/
    ENVIRO-VIDEO

    Chernobyl a million casualties (filmed 6 days before Fukushima)
    Finding the Missing Link

    Akio Matsumura
    The Fukushima Lie

    'CC' symbol for English captions. Important German TV film (29 mins) from ZDF. Click on subtitles.

  • rogerthat

    http://www.jpgu.org/scj/report/20140902scj_report_e.pdf

    This report is the results of deliberations of the Sectional Committee on Nuclear Accident, Committee on Comprehensive Synthetic Engineering, Science Council of Japan、 reflecting the results of deliberations of the Subcommittee to Review the Investigation on Environmental Contamination Caused by the Nuclear Accident and the results of the Working Group for Model Intercomparison in the Subcommittee…

  • Yo Factchecker,

    Since you claim lose does radiation is a Hormesis benefit I will ask you…..

    What is your regimen for recieving more radiation to improve your health. Please tell us. I have asked this 70 times at various "pro hormesis" sites and never got a single anwer of "this is how I get more radiation"

    Or are you a poser, not a true Whoremesis believer?

    Please clarify.

  • Bill Duff

    This Fact Blocking Asshat

    Ooooh you can't POSITIVELY PROVE that a specific nuclear disintegration caused a specific mutation in a specific cell.

    AND we can't link that last Winston to your lung cancer, in a closed proof fashion. So Smoke em if yah got em; you fact blocking POS.

  • Bill Duff

    The Global Public, has decided to pull the plug on this failed fission experiment.

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