Fukushima Evacuee: We’re human guinea-pigs in an experiment… we’ll never forgive gov’t or Tepco! — US Attorney: It’s up to the American people to make them pay; Japan is threatening to put people who speak out in concentration camps (AUDIO)

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The Asia-Pacific Journal, Dec. 9, 2013 (translated by Tom Gill) — Shoji Masahiko, Fukushima evacuee: […] now what really matters is human health. […] The national government and the village mayor insist now as ever that they will decontaminate the village, that they will enable us to go home […] But why, when human life and health should be the top priority, should that be reason to choose return, return to the village, as a higher priority than the people’s health, our children’s health, our grandchildren’s health? – That is something I cannot fathom. For my part I have actually started to think that we are being used as the world’s first human guinea-pigs, in an experiment […] We will never forgive those responsible – the national government, the Tokyo Electric Power Company, and those who helped make this happen!

Nuclear Hotseat #129, Dec. 10, 2013:

At 42:30 in

Charles Bonner, attorney representing Navy sailors who were aboard the USS Ronald Reagan during the operation to help Japan after 3/11: [People from Japan] will get their opportunity, we will submit declarations on their behalf and their voices will be heard in this lawsuit. We welcome them… they want people in America to know that in Japan — they’re threatening to put people in concentration camps who speak out about the secrets of the risk of harm of nuclear power. They do not want people to speak out about what happened in Japan.

At 44:15 in

Bonner: We want the injured people in Japan to also be compensated. Right now the government is doling out about $500 per person and these people are now having major thyroid cancer problems, the same kind of problems that these American sailors are having… leukemias, bleeding, rashes, memory loss, all of the host of problems…without any recourse. They don’t have a judicial system like we have in America where the sailors have a right to jury trial and have the right to have the people in the community determine what is fair and reasonable and just compensation. And whether or not Tepco should be punished — should have to pay punitive damages for knowingly exposing people to this level of risk… It’s all of their offspring, because their children will be affected.

At 48:00 in

Bonner: The most important thing to do is contact the military and contact lawmakers, and demand that these lawmakers bring all of the resources they have… These are the first responders. We go all over the world — whenever there’s disasters, we’re the first ones to go into help… They were deceived and that deception has resulted in injury to them for the rest of their lives. We must make Tepco pay, and it’s up to the American people to make them pay.

Full interview available here

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  • charlie3

    This lawyer really needs to get on the TV talk show circuit and publicize this.

  • lickerface lickerface

    FOIA reveal we sorta knew we were putting our first responders in the crosshairs of fallout. I'm confused.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    US Navy Sailors Sue: Readings on Ship During the Disaster
    Dec 27 2012

    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=8788

    "The readings are as follows all taken from the NRC transcripts:

    1. 7.5 times 10 to the minus 9 th microcuries per milliliter. 100 miles out at 1300 March 13
    2. Three times to the minus nine microcuries per milliliter. 100 miles out at 1430 March 13
    3. 7.5. 100 miles out at 1700 March 13
    4. 0.6 millirem per hour from beta gamma shine. 130 miles out time not specified March 13
    5. Shoes from helicopter crews 10,000 micro-microcuries per 100 square centimeters, or per frisk. 50 miles out (exposure) March 13
    6. Surface readings taken on the Reagan of the feet of people who had been on the SDF ship, 2500 counts per minute at 100 miles out no time given March 13"

  • weeman

    If they want to sue the US navy they will have to prove negligance and that they knowingly exposed sailors to high levels of radioactive isotopes and did not take the appropriate measures to protect.
    It was a nuclear aircraft carrier with all the equipment on board necessary to monitor and they had a supply of potassium iodine tablets, did they issue, did they restrict access to open areas, did they lock the ship down and close all doors etc, personnel on flight deck were you check after shift for radiation and the beat goes on and on, just like the energizer bunny.

    • We Not They Finally

      You may be right. I hope that you're right. But what I had read is that the sailors had NO LEGAL STANDING to sue because they gave up all their rights when they joined the U.S. Navy. Also that they are NOT being followed medically by the Navy.

      So it's just TEPCO who should pay? This is a national AMERICAN disgrace!

      I had also read (I believe right here on ENE News — anyone else can check) that yes, the officers on that ship were given the likes of potassium iodide, but the ordinary enlisted people were given NOTHING.

      Same thing in Japan. The medical personnel were issued potassium iodide pills, but the surrounding POPULATION was given nothing. Do you know how much iodide pills cost, especially in bulk? 10 cents a pill, if that.

      Yet here in California, governmental authorities sent out notices to M.D.'s across the State telling them to NOT prescribe potassium iodide for patients. We're not in California, but we just went and got iodide pills over the internet.

      And how does this all differ from criminally negligent mass murder? Say, it DOESN'T….

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        A cow shit two feet across steaming in the morning light.

      • weeman

        Could you give me the link, my doctor in Canada would not give me a prescription, told me to stop smoking and then he would issue them, told him it was not about me, it is about existance.
        He is just like the rest I am me and I am now and that's all?
        They don't see the big picture and the miracle of any life form and the probability of existance is rare to s say the least, considering that 99.8 percent of the universe is empty space ( not quite ), right down to quantium mechanics.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          You can look into getting nasent iodine, Lugol's solution from a good source, or even potassium iodide. Be aware potassium iodide is for use in emergency only, and it is only to be used for a couple of days. One must begin its use about 72 hours prior to exposure in order for it to be protective.

          We have lots of good info. at the Forum area you could use for self education. I'd recommend that. A wise course of action is to build your body's iodine reserves over time, preferably with foods, clean sources of brown sea kelps, sea salt, etc.

          It might not hurt to take a small dose of iodine daily, but recommend doses for that range from micrograms to just a few miligrams.

          It's also an excellent (and I think really, really important) idea to get your physician's blessing before beginning iodine supplementation. That is, if you're getting it from anywhere other than clean sources of sea food, kelps, or sea salt.

          You can irreparably damage your thyroid by using iodine improperly, so caution advised! The thyroid regulaties a lot of important functions in the body, so be careful.

        • 4Yahshua

          12~14~5995 (out of 6000)
          Sabbath in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"

          We are now taking 12 mg. iodine capsules daily (here on the CA coast)from Swanson Vitamins. They also carry capsules of Nova Scotia Dulse, Bladderwack, and etc. at reasonable prices. Inexpensive topical iodine can be applied daily to the abs. I have been doing this for years. Potassium Iodide is an option with more risks.

  • Nick

    "The ship's crew was exposed to a very low level of radiation."
    (USS Carrier Ronald Reagan Passes Through Radioactive Plume Off Japan Coast
    March 14, 2011)

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/uss-carrier-ronald-reagan-moved-detecting-radioactive-plume/story?id=13129409

    So exposure to low levels of radiation causes the symptoms we are hearing about? What about MASSIVE amounts? (which is probably what the truth is…….remember the helicopters being very radioactive?)

  • w29r7 w29r7

    Don't know how long the Japan gov. can hold off from international protest, if there's much.

    • AllenH AllenH (Scary, but not alarming !?)

      Protests and outcries, very rare nowadays, the people are drugged up, given financial help (benefits), watching reality t.v, the working are struggling to make ends meet and cannot even begin to think outside of their small world. The rest are lazy, ignorant and apathetic. Too busy wondering about what presents to buy. The other day when fish was in front of us at work to eat. I mentioned Fuku, and only one person turned around and said " Thats that Japanese thing hey ? " I recon this is common around the world, so lets not hold our breath for an outcry till the people are dropping in the streets, but then it will be all to late.

      • We Not They Finally

        A lot of truth in what you say, but please do NOT be so quick to turn against your fellow citizens. Like not everyone without a job because of a manipulated deteriorating economy, is "drugged up" and "given financial benefits." We have to squarely attack the CAUSES, not jut bemoan the results.

        I don't have the answers now either. Wish I did. But as the crisis deepens, it will become easier and easier for people to turn against EACH OTHER.

        Our last best defense will always be compassion. Even though I'm honestly as upset about the apathy and dumbing down as you are. We have to educate and organize, even though the culture has nearly made that prohibitive. Maybe SOMEHOW some brave voices can take hold publicly.

  • tsfw tsfw

    I shudder at thought of not only the environmental effects this is having, but the economical, social and psychological ramifications as well. They won't be able to hide it, even with their secrecy laws and I can't wait to watch it backfire on their fascist arses.

  • ftlt

    Spoken like a true lawyer…

    Make them pay???

    Who gets paid???… The first sufferers of 10s of millions until the money runs out…

    Who esle pays GE???… IAEA??? USAG???

    • rakingmuck

      This particular lawyer is true to his cause. I have talked with him on another platform extensively where I post about many things including Fukushima. The issue with him and why the last thing he should do is go on talk shows is that he has difficulty self editing and becomes overtly hostile at the blink of an eye.

      I checked him out. He is a partner in a much larger firm. I am pretty sure that he is part of the legal team that is representing these sailors otherwise I would be nervous for them. I have known my share of lawyers and they use words very carefully, selectively. He does not.

      I started a thread on a platform where people rarely talk about Fukushima. I had been trying to get some traction for a year. Finally this thread took off. People got involved. He did as well and shouted down everyone else, became hostile to me, the moderator, for not letting anything be discussed other than his case.

      There were other things about Fukushima people wanted to talk about. He became so hard to deal with I stopped my own thread because I did not want to stop people from becoming awake to Fukushima and knew there would be another day. Since then I continue to post and people are talking – more and more every day.

      I only posted because I wanted people here to be aware. I have no negative agenda. These sailors have suffered massively as have their families. I want him and his firm to have a major victory.

      • lovE lovE

        Could you post the thread you mentioned. I for one would like to "listen in."

      • Alaskan Ice Alaskan Ice

        @rakingmuck: "The issue with him [Bonner] and why the last thing he should do is go on talk shows is that he has difficulty self editing and becomes overtly hostile at the blink of an eye."

        What you wrote is a bit of a red flag: Often when big players in a given arena want the good guys to lose in court, their first line of defense is to control the dialectic by engineering the contracting of an unwitting buffoon of an attorney. A buffoon is more likely to lose and thus settle the issue, with a "full fair hearing" and "justice" being served.

        There are crappy attorneys out there who appear to make a living off playing the role of that idiot, full of sound and fury, and taking the fall. I don't know anything about Bonner or his "team", one way or the other, but it's worth being very careful before you declare someone a hero for your cause.

        Anyway, in the interview he says he's adding in "loss of consortium" claims for the (civilian) military spouses of affected service members. On one hand he's got problems with jurisdiction and on the other he's got problems with service member rights to sue.

  • harengus_acidophilus

    "crime against humanity"

    Well, let's have a look into the UN-Charta article 53 …
    Japan is an "enemy state" isn't it?

    h.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    The Earthquake of 3/11/2011 was not TEPCO's fault.
    But building nuclear power plants on the shore was TEPCO's fault.
    Building over a known fault line was TEPCO's fault.
    Building GE Mark 1 Reactors, with known design flaws, was TEPCO's fault.

    The Tsunami of 3/11/2011 was not TEPCO's fault.
    But they knew the seawall offered insufficient protection from tsunamis.
    They placed backup generator fuel tanks in seaside locations that offered no protection from the tsunami.
    They placed cooling pumps on the harbor front, where they could be swept away by the tsunami.

    After the Earthquake and Tsunami, TEPCO could have reacted immediately and decisively to mitigate the disaster.
    But they valued the preservation of capital above paying fir necessary emergency measures.
    The made a show of responsible action, rather than actually DOING responsible action.
    They allowed the 3 cores to melt out of the reactor buildings, making no effort to freeze them in place.
    They allowed the 3 cores to flow down into mudrock, without any attempt to freeze them in place.

    When groundwater became heavily contaminated by coming into direct contact with nuclear debris, TEPCO could have built an Impermeable Wall completely around Reactors1-4, to stop incoming groundwater from becoming contaminated.
    But they insisted that the 3 cores remained contained within the Containment Vessels.
    TEPCO poured 300 tonnes of water per day into Containment Vessels that had little fuel inside, and had…

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      (Con'd)… large holes in them, allowing cooling water to flow freely into the ground, and into the Pacific Ocean.
      They were "surprised" when endoscope videos showed that almost all of the water had flowed out of the reactors and containment vessels, through the large holes made by the exit of molten cores.
      Their plan was for a half Impermeable Wall around the harbor to stop the groundwater from flowing into the sea, even after it became clear that an Extended Impermeable Wall around Reactors1-4 was necessary.
      Then, when water backed up, TEPCO abandoned construction of even this half-measure.
      TEPCO built cheap leaky tanks, which are unable to contain highly radioactive cooling water.
      TEPCO has failed to adequately treat contaminated cooling water.
      TEPCO has not drained and treated the heavily contaminated water in Torus Basements1-3, nor the water in Turbine Buildings1-4.
      When contaminated water built up in the TEPCO Tank Farm, the proposed solution was to simply dump the unfiltered water into the Pacific Ocean.

      The Pacific Ocean has been, very simply, killed by TEPCO's lack of serious response to the disaster.

      Yes, sue the bastards!
      Sue the Bastards.
      Take them for every cent they have.
      Put TEPCO into receivership.
      End TEPCO as a company.
      Then take the Japanese Prime Minister for every cent he has.
      Sue The Bastards!

      ("Sue The Bastards" was the subtitle of my college thesis on the Environmental Defense Fund.). 😉

  • razzz razzz

    If it was wartime, everything would be written off as collateral damage. This was a peacetime humanitarian effort.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Yet they keep shoveling it..and shoveling it on the people..

    Law mulled to guarantee Fukushima not final waste site
    12/13/2013

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/12/13/national/law-mulled-to-guarantee-fukushima-not-final-waste-site/#.UqoOdHmA2M8

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Japan’s New ‘Fukushima Fascism’-by HARVEY WASSERMAN
    Dec 12 2013

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/12/12/japans-new-fukushima-fascism/

    Fascist swine…

  • rakingmuck

    This is on topic. Bare with me. I am not sure people here are aware that Egypt has filed a Crimes Against Humanity case against Obama and his brother. The case is going forward. There is little expectation that President Obama will show, like Cheney and Bush before him, but he cannot step foot in Egypt without being arrested. Libya is about to do the same – this case is broader in scope and the legal team is top notch. Its not just Crimes against Humanity but destroying the nation for decades to come. This one is going to be quite large given who is being called to testify. With two charges now I am sure there will be others.

    While supportive of The Hague (or ICC) the US is not officially a signatory nor is Japan. They show up only if hauled in which you can imagine is difficult. I am currently searching alternatives. The reality is what Japan has done to these sailors is horrible and winning the case would set precedent. But how about the secrecy that has already effected the lives of millions in Japan and the USA? I realize proving anything about the US would be difficult. But not Japan. I am pursuing a collusion angle as that is what I believe has occurred and is occurring. Do not want to say too much more but stopping the nuclear industry is critical as they bare the true blame for Crimes Against Humanity.

  • Nick

    In December 2011 the world was told this:

    "The IAEA welcomes the announcement by the Government of Japan that the reactors at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station have achieved a 'cold shutdown condition' and are in a stable state, and that the release of radioactive materials is under control."

    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/2011/coldshutdown.html

    here's from an earlier thread
    Nick
    December 5, 2013 at 10:50 am Log in to Reply
    Solutions?:
    #1. Pass secrecy act in Japan (and hope to do same in other countries soon)
    #2. Invite pregnant women to live in free houses in the exclusion zone.
    #3. Burn debris so that all of Japan gets contaminated, collective suffering…misery loves company, etc.
    #4. Claim cold shut down (note 5/19/11 is the official date Tepco has for Fukushima being offline)
    #5 Convince others that in order to study situation at 1,2,3, and 4 #'s 5 and 6 are labs.
    #6 Raise allowable radiation dosages for humans.
    #7 Tell doctors to lie to their patients.
    #8 Plan on dumping ALL water on site into ocean (eventually).
    #9 Divert public's attention to vent stacks, rat-chewed trunk lines, leaking tanks, rain puddles.
    #10 Fake radiation meter readings, clean up in spots, ignoring rest of areas.
    #11 Hire dolts to sacrifice themselves for a lost cause.
    Did I miss anything?
    http://enenews.com/study-evidence-of-uncontrollable-nuclear-reaction-after-fukushima-reactors-shutdown-emerged-criticallity-supported-by-data-photos

  • Nick

    The key talking point I have from my repost…is Tepco lists Fukushima1-4 permanently offline as of 5/19/11, yet they then claimed cold shutdown in In December later that same year.

    A lie is a lie is a lie…….

    The IAEA needs to be taken to the wood shack, not just TEPCO/GE.

    So does our government for covering up for the Japanese.

    The truth will come out folks. This is WAY too big a f-up for it not to.

    • rakingmuck

      Our government is not covering up for Japan. Just the other way around. Japan is covering up for the US – according to many Japanese people I have spoken to. The US and Japan are colluding against humanity. Japan has already received 3 highly lucrative contracts to build new nuclear power plants; 2 in Viet Nam (which is why they also passed identical secrecy law) and one in Turkey. The US has paved the way for all. Why? I still cannot prove this but everyday I become more convinced that the real cover-up is the illegal stockpile of nuclear weapons in Japan smuggled in by both the US and Britain over the last 60 years including a huge amount of weapons grade uranium. The IAEA has turned a blind eye to this. Can you imagine the Iran deal going through if this were to come to light?

    • Kashiko Kashiko

      It's a house of cards. It will fall down soon. Too many lies upon lies with not a shred of truth in sight is unsustainable

  • rakingmuck

    Nick and all this will not shock you as nothing shocks us now. Put into the framework of Fukushima it says much. Some of the places mentioned in this article are built near active volcanoes. The people of earth have a death wish and an industry willing to carry out their desires. Read carefully. http://www.eurasiareview.com/12122013-energy-security-southeast-asia-revives-nuclear-power-plans-analysis/

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Japan, TEPCO, GE…

    Sue The Basterds! 😉

    (See post above.)

  • Nick

    The world has over 400 operating NPP's and about 6 dozen are under construction.

    Think Fukushima really slowed this shit down?

    Nope.

    Full steam ahead mates. There's gold in dem dar fission piles!

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Soon we will have a huge cesspool of piles of decaying rotting biological life in the largest body of water on Earth called the Pacific Ocean. 🙁

      Guess the surfers will not have to worry about any shark attacks in the future.. 🙁

      Bobbies wet suits and face masks surely will be lined in lead though.. 🙂

  • Nick

    Soon all our piles will be a fissioning.

    Pogo was right! We have met the enemy and he is us.

  • Sparky Sparky

    In case you missed it, two articles re: TEPCO illegal labor practices:

    http://news.yahoo.com/insight-fukushima-water-tanks-leaky-built-illegal-labor-211156725–sector.html

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/fukushima-contractor-denies-claims-staff-concealed-terms-141606860–finance.html

    Excerpt: "Tec declined to comment on Uechi's claims about irregularities in his pay for the early part of his 6-month stint working at the nuclear plant where he and others built bolted water-storage tanks.

    Storage tanks of that kind were found to be failing in August and spilled almost 80,000 gallons of radioactive water. Uechi and other workers said they had been rushed in the construction and sometimes applied caulking on rainy days when it would not seal properly."

    Sad, but not surprising….

    I sent the links sent our Enenews Admin.

    • ManWithThePlan ManWithThePlan

      Seeing that article again reminds me that, at this time, what the average Japanese (or in this case, the average Japanese 'plant worker'/hired low-skilled help) needs is not immediate monetary aid, or help, or even kind words, at this point. What they desperately need (and what places like Fukushima Diary and Fairewinds are hopefuly achieving bit by bit) is EDUCATION about what it is we're ALL dealing with here. They need education more than anything

      Hell, I come from a priveleged, predominantly white, first-world country with an (relatively) educated populace, and even I have come to the realization that I was taught basic physics, geology, astronomy, chemistry, mathematics, and I still know close to nothing about nuclear power/radiation/fallout beghaviour and chemical properties/half-life of cesium or radon gas. A lot of the chemicals that I now know, I unfortunately know thanks to the Fukushima disaster (and will continue learning about, most likely).

      • ManWithThePlan ManWithThePlan

        Seriously, I can't understand what the point of paying off your debt to the yakuza is if you won't be around in a year to enjoy your newfound financial freedom (no that the yakuza will let you off the hook once you're in their debt either way). Does it then become a principlistic self-sacrifice for your family and nation; a warm, fuzzy feeling that you will die a hero and will have done a common good?

        This begs the question, 'what's the point of sacrificing oneself for your loved ones and countrymen, if they will share a similar fate in the short-term future?'

        The whole tragedy of these newly-recruited workers is that they really don't understand the chemical properties of what they are cleaning up, and are in fact reassured by TEPCO staff/whoever is in charge of recruitment that those materials aren't nearly as dangereous as these poor saps may think.

        Perhaps some of the people that have made mistakes in their lives have simply decided that they would rather take their punishment and pay their debt to the yakuza off in a more 'righteous' way, rather than being offed in the back of some alley with a sharp, pointy thing (if yakuza movies arte anything to go by).

        Why they chose this, I do not know, as they seem to be more harm than good by staying there and perpetuating the myth that this is a problem fixable by implementastion of garden rakes and plastic garbage bags.

        I dunno.

  • yellowrain

    @Nick

    I Think you forgot this.

    MAJOR Japanese fast-food chain Yoshinoya will grow rice and vegetables in Fukushima prefecture, home to the nuclear plant that was crippled by a tsunami in 2011.

    "We believe this will lead to support for reconstruction," Yoshinoya said in a statement, adding the move would also help it secure low-priced ingredients for its beef bowl dishes."

    Since our exposure standards have been raised 10X I have no doubt "low-priced" Japanese food arrives here daily!

    • Kashiko Kashiko

      The food from those areas is very cheap. It's just Yoshinoya being greedy for money. The rot is through all levels of business and government in Japan

    • ManWithThePlan ManWithThePlan

      Fuck reconstruction! Who even cares about reconstruction? Go ahead, rebuild all of Fukushima prefecture from the bottom up. Put shiny new buildings and attractive paved boulevards, with candy-cane forests and gum-drop lanes. That place has been branded for life, and I sincerely doubt that any person in their right mind will want to move back/relocate to Fukushima with children in tow unless they have a death wish.

      Also, fuck the CEO of Yoshinoya – I loved that chain, now, not so sure. They're going to have to bring their beef-bowl dishes down by 98% in order for anyone to buy them. Oh well, make the money quick while your clientele is still alive and digesting food properly I guess.

  • name999 name999

    I used to love rice…and fish…
    Here is a loaded question, but does anyone have any credible info. on whether a tsunami could be artificially triggered, explosives detonated in the tectonic plates maybe?
    Some of this thread explains the turn around here in Washington regarding Hanford. Earlier this year there were increasing news reports about the unlined trenches that high level materials have been dumped in for decades now being discovered in our aquifers, and of course in the Columbia River. Now there is some tough love, reports that they were mistaken and some months of research now shows it isn't so bad as they thought. Getting rid of hotlines and agencies for people to contact with problems with Tsunami debris, and of course the best idea of all…make Hanford a national park!!!
    One last thing, talking about "government" or "US" is just too general to make sense of…being that there have been drones for probably 5+ decades inherited from Nazi research and greatly expanded but most Americans have no idea about it. Then we get President Obama's administration and it becomes public knowledge. That is to his credit. Messengers…as I think we are here, don't kill the messenger…Thank you to Charles Bonner, Senator Wyden, Harvey Wasserman, on my list today…

  • name999 name999

    ok, looking up PROJECT SEAL…putting on my crash helmet…

  • name999 name999

    pok, you explain this to me…too much rambling…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, quite mad.. 🙁

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    Charles Bonner is a hero. God bless him.

    Here's our collective call to action, people of the U.S.

    • flatsville

      If obewan would only call Frances Boyle to shut down all the NPPs globally, we could have another hero.

      On a serious, non-delusional note, I admire what Bonner is doing. These sailors have a passionate advocate…perhaps too passionate…I don't know to what rakingmuck is referring, but Bonner will be at this for years. Pacing yourself is everything.

  • Michele

    The sailors on the USS Ronald Reagan were not the only members of the military to be sacrificed to the Nuclear Industry and the government of the USA. There are military bases that received no warning about the danger of this nuclear nightmare. There are more assigned military with families that should have been evacuated. And we are still sending our military members to serve in Japan.

    The irony of the name of the ship, the USS Ronald Reagan is that that past president of our nation stated; "All the nuclear waste in a year from one plant can fit under a desk."

    • m a x l i

      "All the nuclear waste in a year from one plant can fit under a desk."

      Look at that growing contaminated water container park in Fukushima-Daiichi. He must have had a very big desk.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    That was just one whopper and the entire basis of any civilization is to expand on compounding lies..
    http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/12/21880402-obama-health-care-promise-named-lie-of-the-year?lite

  • Vorith

    Culture = cult. There were tribes, until centralization. Who was behind that? Their offspring are still at it.

    Consider orgonite. if this isn't a scam something could be done with this. Of course, it appears there's remedies out there yet for some reason it's just about blaming and gaming – while the usual demographics get hit.

    No scientists here but there might be something to orgonite regarding radiation. At least it's effects on biological tissue etc.

  • Nick

    In 1936 my grandfather was practicing medicine in Japan. He had lived there since 1900, going to the US mainland for education.

    Since Japanese was his first language he was able to interpret an overheard conversation amongst his colleagues….

    "we don't need western doctors anymore."…..

    He went home and told his wife that they were moving to Hawaii immediately. He practiced medicine there until 1963.

    The drums of war were heard by him in 1936. Pearl Harbor was my mother's 12th birthday.

    "those aren't american planes.." said my grandfather as the Zeroes droned towards Pearl Harbor. He knew since he had grown up in Japan.

    In a sense, much of my own heritage is slanted towards Japanese culture, my family celebrated holidays like boys day and girls day when I was growing up,

    My great-grandparents lived in Tokyo from 1900-1941 and got the last boat out of Yokohama Harbor in august of 1941, after having been woken up in the middle of the night with only the clothes on their backs and a bible.

    My sister lived there for 4 years and conceived her first born in Japan.

    Fukushima is horrible enough but my own soul tears a bit when I think about what will happen to Japan, remote as it is, it's still a part of my heritage.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      What is happening in Japan tears the heart of everyone. We are all children of the world, and share the culture and genome of everyone. And what is happening in Japan is happening all over the world.

      I suspect the Chinese are trying to leave China because of nuclear accidents there and worldwide nuclear waste.

  • tsfw tsfw

    They must feel so trapped and alone, I could feel this woman's frustration and sadness ):

    http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2012/01/05/japanese-woman-i-cannot-talk-about-radiation-with-anyone/

  • tsfw tsfw

    I just came across this article on the weatherunderground. I realize the lakes were already in trouble, but could Fuku be speeding things up I wonder. http://www.wunderground.com/news/great-lakes-food-supply-changing-study-20131213

  • tsfw tsfw

    http://digitaljournal.com/article/326186

    Michigan has experienced radiation spikes. I'm sure most in here already knew this so I'm sorry if it's redundant, but maybe will be of interest to some other newbies. From now on, I'll be paying attention to what's happening in the great lakes as well.

  • name999 name999

    Ater spending several months in NYState this year, I saw some of the telltale signs of radiation exposure, the dead trees, weird black stuff and moldy stuff on buildings and sidewalks…all anecdotal, I realize. It reminded me of the way the Black Forrest in Germany looked in the 1980's, lots of devastation of the trees from the acid rain and even more here in NW.
    Thank you Ourself, Ontological…ughhh…SEAL. A small but potent culture on this planet cannot control itself but seeks to control everything else and in the process destroys the whole planet…and is that where it ends?
    A Tsunami bomb on the West Coast…the perfect cover up for a manmade tragedy

  • Vorith

    Yes, I've never been there but there is, or was, something magical or mystical about Japan. I've for some reason read much on the well, Kamikazes. The tragedy and trauma is perpetual apparently.

    Yes, the seismic graphs show the artificial Spike, which indicated an undersea nuke as to naturally occurring quake. And as with 9/11, there were explosive within those buildings as well. Hence More damage.

    But it's Simply the fact the entire world isn't over there…. Imo, this indicates there are orders from another higher source. I do not mean God.

    It would be nice if we could raise an issue with (for) those Shanghi'ed workers.

    So really, we're just typing and yelling at each other. Seems to me the solutions are already here, boron, orgonite and other gifts from Nature. But nope, let's run around in circles.

    Simply put, Agenda. Will you survive their agendas? Do you even want to!?

    "Thank you Ourself, Ontological…ughhh…SEAL. A small but potent culture on this planet cannot control itself but seeks to control everything else and in the process destroys the whole planet…and is that where it ends?"

    Seal? We (most everyone likely) really do not fully understand what this "breakaway" culture "at the top" is really about. Some say it's more than mere profits, greed or even complete control. I'd like to know if those structures on Mars are faked sensations or some genuine ruins from… well that's interesting. If there are ruins then it…

  • Vorith

    … might help explain some things down here.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/HE12Dh01.html

    article from 2006 about making thought crimes…

    What was going on then. Were people thinking? Oh my.

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