Fukushima forecast used by gov’t shows nuclear waste crossing ocean in single massive cluster — “Maximum concentration propagates eastward in Pacific toward U.S.” — Highest levels worldwide remain along coast of N. America through 2026 (VIDEO)

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Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing Center (Norway), 2013 (emphasis added): The massive nuclear leakage into ocean from Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant was observed on March 25th,2011. The transport of leaked radioactive pollutant from the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant was simulated… assuming constant and continuous leakage for 20 days (scenario 1) and for one year (scenario 2) starting from March 25th, 2011 and was integrated for 20 years… There is no remarkable difference of transport pathways… for the nuclear waste… The results of the ensembles indicate that the nuclear pollutant for both scenarios transports eastward to eastern Pacific… It takes about 10 to 15 years to reach the coast of East Asia… a realistic source function is required and atmospheric fallout and role of ocean ecology should also be taken into account, in order to get a more reliable assessment of possible impact of the radioactive leakage on the ocean environment.

Nansen Environmental and Remote Sensing CenterProf. Ola Johannessen, University of Bergen Geophysical Institute: Ocean spreading of radioactivity from the Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan [...] The results show that the maximum concentration propagates eastward in the Pacific toward the United States during a 7-year period while the total concentration drops to 1-2% of the source concentration (100%) after 5 years.

Nansen-Zhu International Research Centre, China: Extraordinary earthquake hit Japan and led the nuclear leakage of Japanese Fukushima reactor to the ocean. Dr. Yongqi Gao with colleagues at NERSC and NZC used the numerical model to simulate the propagation of radioactive elements in the ocean. Model system has been used for EU RADARC (Simulation scenarios for potential radioactive spreading in the 21st century from rivers and external sources in the Russian Arctic coastal zone, 2001-2003) and Norwegian Research Council supported project ARC (Arctic Radioactive Contamination, 2004-2006)… results were also cited by the State Council of China.

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  • Socrates

    Some radionuclides were airborne, aerosolized ans transported by the jets stream. Much fell into the Pacific Ocean and was transported by currents. Still more is percolated through the damaged reactor cores and transported by jet stream. Others are carried after having been incinerated over in Japan.

    How many feel that Dana's photographs depict loss of life in the inter-tidal zone? If so, how many feel that radiation plays a critical role?

    If Dana is correct in attributing much of his observation to radiation,or even if it is attributable to domoic acid, the West Coast and marine life are in extreme jeopardy. I hear people saying that the fishing has never been better in San Diego. I wonder how long that will last.

    Whatever the cause, this state of affairs is really depressing as poor practices and population pressures demolish the biosphere.


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    • OldFool

      The problem with these very pretty simulations is that they are using numbers ultimately provided by TEPCO. None of the TEPCO estimates can be trusted. Their estimates for daily releases correspond to Milligrams of leaching of Sr-90 and Cs-137 per day from what is presumably hundreds of square meters of surface area on the three reactor cores totaling well over 250 tons. Totally bogus underestimates by at least 3 to 5 orders of magnitude. Pure lunacy.


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      • Socrates

        Old Fool,

        The constant and continuous releases into the atmosphere and water from three melted reactors and several fuel pools with associated explosions and fuel pool fires cannot be quantified in any meaningful manner. So many different vectors with some many different gases and particles makes modeling impossible over long periods of time – especially with continuing releases.

        The numbers are beside the point in a way. Imagine being in a huge forest fire with some guy with a smoke detector, another with a thermometer, and another counting trees. All you know is that you have third-degree burns over 85% of your body. Meanwhile, the manufacturer of stick matches is trying to convince you that you should not be experiencing burns.

        I like data but tend to think qualitatively, rather than trying to compute where each sub-atomic particle might be at any given moment. TEPCO wants us to look through a microscope rather than on the big picture. Enough radiation was released to cause serious health consequences for millions of people sometime in the future. Maybe billions will be affected. To me, that is the only issue – whether if is millions or billions.


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          :) "Meanwhile, the manufacturer of stick matches is trying to convince you that you should not be experiencing burns."

          You are always very wise.. says he! :)


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        • StPaulScout StPaulScout

          Socrates – I'm thinking it will be billions, unfortunately.


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        • Runningonlove Runningonlove

          A pithy, ironic and humourous image, Socrates! That one is of the type that really sticks in the mind's eye. As in sharp stick.
          Ouch! Talk about the blind leading the blind.


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        • NoFixedID

          Why rely on speculation when we can measure the actual radiation? Surely it is not beyond human capacity to take water samples at various depths at a grid of, say, 100 sample points spaced at 500 km intervals across the northern Pacific. A fleet of five boats could complete the task ex the Californian coast in four weeks – considerably less expenditure of resources than has been devoted to searching for the elusive MH370. It might be possible to utilise existing shipping to perform some of the sampling, saving resources. A snapshot of current radiation levels could greatly increase the accuracy of predictive models, in terms of estimating radiation levels and the rates and directions of ocean currents.


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          • humptydumpty humptydumpty

            Don't measure the water — measure the life forms. Focus on bio-concentration and bio-accumulation.

            I would rather have them devote resources to measuring radionuclide concentration in FISH because it is the food chain we are most concerned about regarding ocean contamination that has the most direct impact on those who consume fish (many millions of people).

            Measuring the water is too random and requires too many samples to get any accurate picture.


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            • humptydumpty humptydumpty

              I meant bio-accumulation and bio-magnification.


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              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                I have 20 birds in my garage and I pull into the garage and forget to turn my car off. I go in the house and come out and open the garage door and gag, cough, puke, (CO2 Reading off the charts), as I then run to see my birds who are now dead. My birds are dead…

                I then open the doors and allow new air to sweep the old air out of the garage and I can no longer smell the CO2. :)

                I bury my dead birds.. :(

                Our air is just like water currents in the oceans. In fact the Ocean's air is actually the water that all the creatures of the sea breath.


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                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  There are tidal pools and currents and dead (non moving) waters in the oceans. Pockets of radioactivity can act just like CO2 in a closed garage and simply substitute Radiation for CO2.

                  Contaminated water can stagnate in the oceans based on these variables and currents and topography/landscapes. Kill and negatively effect the sea life caught in these variable areas. One might test the water after a current or churning took place moving the radioactivity along it's way. Had you tested it prior to its dispersion, the readings may have been high, if after, the readings would be low.

                  The problem is the effected by radiation fish are already dead…count the fish and not the radiation would seem to be the wise thing to do.

                  Like the reports of 98% coverage of dead sea snot 100 miles off CA's west coast and millions of sea stars perishing in weeks… :(


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                • zogerke zogerke

                  Obewan i think you mean to say CO…carbon monoxide…CO2 is carbon dioxide, what we exhale, what is going up in PPM…but that will put you to sleep far faster than it will kill you, as carbonmonoxide from a fuel burning motor will kill….


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        • OldFool

          The actual daily release numbers are actually not beside the point. There are at least four important reasons why -
          (1) If TEPCO truly believes their numbers are correct – then they are truly so incompetent as to be an immediate threat to the Northern Hemisphere to an extent that has not yet ever been recognized.
          (2) If TEPCO actually knows that their numbers are totally bogus – then there is no limit to their potential dishonesty – Everything Else they are claiming (77% fuel rod removal from SFP#4, 300-400 tons of water daily flowing into the ocean, etc. etc.) is also now very possibly nothing but a soothing, total lie.
          (3) If TEPCO is correct in saying only a few milligrams of Sr-90 and Cs-137 are leaching into the ocean every day, then this will not be a big threat to the North Pacific, because only about a few hundred grams of Sr-90 or Cs-137 will enter the Pacific in the next 300 years. Dilution would save the Pacific.
          (4) But if TEPCO's numbers are actually wrong and underestimating the leach rates by several orders of magnitude (and I see no way that the TEPCO numbers could be correct), then the North Pacific could indeed be at serious risk when bio-concentration effects in seafood kick in.

          I strongly suspect that they must know the real numbers, but have decided to put out the vastly smaller numbers instead to avoid panic and outrage. Can the numbers be accurately estimated? Yes, they can. But basic honesty with the facts is an essential prerequisite.


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          • NoFixedID

            I agree, OldFool. Tepco's status as an unprecedented threat is already well established, and its capacity for (possibly intentional) incompetence is unmatched. It is quite possible that ex-corium groundwater is flooding out of the ocean floor many kilometres offshore, but Tepco's monitoring program has been at best piecemeal and sporadic. The first step to determining the threat to the Pacific would be to establish a detailed, systematic and longterm monitoring program for waters within 200 km of the plant – conducted by independent researchers.


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            • Old Fool and NoFixedID, i think both the Japanese and US governments prefer that "speculation" be what is washing up upon the shores rather than "measurements" of radiation. It IS the "out" that all entrenched political groups would choose. I think all of your claims compiled together could easily make a proposal made into a petition. It could give some leverage to the various groups trying to get measuring starting. I think there is a website that does petitions though i can't recall the name. You have to write it into their software and it gets passed around through email and social interaction sites, alternative news feeds, environmental blogs, etc. Together your statements make the most precise and urgent appeal i have seen. Please consider doing it.


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              • NoFixedID

                I appreciate your response, Radio, and I'll give serious consideration to your suggestion. Avaaz.org is one group that encourages individuals to initiate their own petitions, and it has achieved success on numerous issues. There are a number of questions to investigate including the best organisation to target (eg UNSCEAR, UNESCO, Californian state legislature?), and what petitions may already be in circulation. I'll look into these questions and get back to this forum with a proposal, to invite your feedback.

                Speaking of petitions, an idea that's been rattling around my head for a while is to start a campaign calling for the 2020 Olympics budget to be redirected to cleaning up Fukushima. The 'Earth Rescue Olympics' or something along those lines. Staging the Olympics will cost far less than the likely Fukushima cleanup bill, but the campaign would highlight the ongoing threat of Fukushima and call into question the Japanese government's priorities. I envisage the campaign logo as a hybrid of the Olympic rings and the radiation symbol…


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                • NoFixedID, that is a brilliant idea about the Olympic petition. Just brilliant. It brings focus on the priority issue, something people can relate to, especially in these harder times. Looking into who the other petition might go to is why you, and not me, is the one to do this. I wouldn't even have figured that out. But, when you bring these proposals back, i will help how i can. You are also welcome to contact me at my site. I believe i was thinking Avaaz.org, too, for the petition generation. Let me know how i can help.


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                • NoFixedID

                  Here's what I've found so far. PETITIONS: There are already at least 11 active petitions in circulation relating to Fukushima, most of them addressed to the UN and/or the US government calling for international intervention. There is a list of them here:

                  http://www.fukushimaresponse.org/Actions.html

                  The petitions have attracted over 300,000 signatures, although some people may have signed more than one petition. One petition calls for food and water monitoring in the US:

                  http://www.change.org/p/urgent-fukushima-radioactive-fallout-food-safety-petition

                  This one calls on West Coast senators to investigate the ongoing dangers of the disaster, with mention of the threat to the Pacific:

                  http://www.change.org/p/west-coast-senators-investigate-the-ongoing-danger-from-the-fukushima-nuclear-reactors

                  OCEAN MONITORING: There are hundreds of radiation monitoring sites around the world; there is an extensive list at

                  http://sccc.org.au/international-radiation-monitoring-stations

                  (continued)


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                • NoFixedID

                  However as far as I know there is no ongoing monitoring of radiation in the Pacific Ocean. I agree with humptydumpty that we should be monitoring lifeforms and bioaccumulation. However I also think we should be monitoring the ocean water, because the water is the source of the radiation that we see in fish, and because such monitoring will gives us important information about how radiation is travelling and distributing across the ocean. Moreover, our concern must be not only with the risk to human food but with the health of the ocean and its myriad life forms.

                  I suggest, then, that there is a strong case for advocating the establishment of an extensive and ongoing program to monitor radiation in water and aquatic life forms across the entire northern Pacific (and eventually across the South Pacific and other oceans).

                  Given the number of petitions already in circulation I'm not convinced that another petition is the best way to go about this, but I'd appreciate feedback from readers of this site.

                  As for the Olympics idea, I'll follow that up on another thread.


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        • Socrates: "TEPCO wants us to look through a microscope rather than on the big picture."

          Great point. Seeing it this way, leads to explanations re: their actions.


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      • OF, lunacy it is! Rather like sawing off your foot and then wondering where the damn thing came from. The requirements of peer reviewed science are also its limitations and can be easily manipulated. In this case, they do not take their own samples but rely upon the culprit time and time again, contently trusting that a corporation would never lie. So, i think we also need to add undiluted naiveté to the pure lunacy.


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        • unincredulous unincredulous

          Nicely put

          It's like a house built by carpenters, which all use their own feet to measure out the lumber. It will never work.


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        • bo bo

          I agree Radio
          Starting from the nuclear industry's false standards of 'safe levels of radiation' based on false & manipulated data from Hiroshima survivors to false data of radiation releases from TEPCO to false Pacific ocean radiation 'dispersal' projection models… the lunacy does not seem to be diluting either – it bio-accumulates.


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          • bo, i start to read through the documentation and get lost in the chemistry – not my thing – hoping to whittle it down or summarize it for people who have never even heard of the concept of low dose radiation and why it is the big concern, not immediate catastrophe, but, gradual, big catastrophe. The industry and doctors have theirs down – safer than bananas, plane rides, chest x-rays.

            Maybe Old Fool, you, others could help. Dr. Goodheart has good stuff, but, still, we tend to write for the people who have some inclination to try and understand already. If they don't or disagree, many tend to jump on them. But, as long as people support reactors, there will be reactors. And, far more people support reactors than do not. We need a 200 word educational tract that doesn't hammer people over the head, but still gets their attention, with great metaphors and analogies with a hint of science and chemistry. I bet Dr. Helen Caldicott and others would help.


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            • OldFool

              Radio – here is a very simple, concise summary of the situation for anyone to understand.
              Nuclear reactors break atoms apart by fission to generate heat to ultimately generate electricity. However, the nuclear fission byproducts from these reactors must be encapsulated and isolated for many thousands of years to prevent them from entering the food chain and killing people and poisoning large areas of the earth. However, the most advanced encapsulation and isolation technology on earth is projected to only work for about 100 years before the radiation degrades and breaks the encapsulation. As a result, there has been no definitely safe long term storage location for storing nuclear fission byproducts. Therefore, each nuclear reactor has been storing their accumulating nuclear fission byproducts in spent fuel rod pools of water for several years. But neither the reactors nor the spent fuel rod pools can withstand a direct hit from a major earthquake. Therefore, each and every nuclear reactor and each and every spent fuel rod pool is a time bomb, because active earthquake faults are close to virtually every reactor and spent fuel rod pool. When these reactors and spent fuel rod pools release their accumulated radioactive inventories, the cost to humanity is in the trillions of dollars and millions of lives, far in excess to any short term benefit from the electricity. Thus, this technology is simply not safe as an electrical energy source.


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    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      @socrates
      How many feel that Dana's photographs depict loss of life in the inter-tidal zone? If so, how many feel that radiation plays a critical role?

      If Dana is correct in attributing much of his observation to radiation,or even if it is attributable to domoic acid, the West Coast and marine life are in extreme jeopardy. I hear people saying that the fishing has never been better in San Diego. I wonder how long that will last.
      My response

      We shall see won't we !
      Does he have any unbiased scientists helping him with laboratory results ?
      Does the everyday man have the instruments to find radiation levels in the water ?
      We all should be observing the everyday changes going on to add to this too .

      Things look very Grimm don't they ?

      By the looks of these studies the radiation will be the heaviest much further south


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    • Dana is going about this in a not very scientific way (because he doesn't have vast sums of money like the institutes and universities), but like something from a Hollywood film he does have enough to start the ball rolling; something that no one else has done thus far. Just high quality photos will do the job.

      The bog standard geiger counters that Dana has will tell you if there are man-made radionuclides present. However, to detect the full monty you need very specialised equipment, which he doesn't have.

      It should also be noted that reactor meltdowns produce isotopes that have never been seen before. In otherwords, the lunatics really have no idea what's going on. Likewise, we are in the totally unprecedented situation of three commercial reactors in complete meltdown and at least three spent fuel pools that went sky high. Some of this involved MOX fuel.

      Anyone who has some understanding of nuclear energy, and can do the math, will realise that we are in deep do dah.

      I don't believe that this is an extinction level event, although a significant amount of life on Earth will be wiped out over the coming decades, including us humans.

      Some life will be able to adapt to these man-made isotopes. Whether that includes the creators of them remains to be seen.


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      • PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha) VanneV

        Because man-made elements and isotopes never existed before, there is no scientific proof that any life will be able to adapt in the future. Look at the forests around Chernobyl. There is nothing to break down the fallen trees. No bacteria or any other form of life.

        There are lakes in Russia where if a persons stands next to it, it is so radioactive that the person would die within 20 minutes.


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      • Go Dana! Go Dana!! Go Dana!!!

        Fukushima : Expedition For Life Begins Sep 3rd 2014
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H22-saaBHOA

        Who else?

        And the little We can do. Get the rad word out, People.

        Fukushima Business Cards 4 U! And everyone else, too!
        http://tinyurl.com/fukushimabusinesscard4u

        These nifty cards are easy to print and pass out.
        Or leave randomly, where ever you please. Distribute liberally.

        P.S. Numerous fallout models
        http://www.thenuclearproctologist.org/new-index-1/


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      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        Rob I have the same feelings

        I also know that we see what we want to see

        We can take pictures of parts of land that seem to have no life , but under a microscope have much
        I cannot stop thinking of a science class we had in the forth grade where we each had a square foot of land to monitor , also my first microscope looking at pond water
        We must turn over every rock and recognize that good science has it's merit

        And with that said I'm not bashing Dana here

        Just sayin


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        • Hi clamshellernh.I must first state the obvious by saying that I'm new on this site, and the posting system can be a bit confusing for newbies (likewise, to anyone else I haven't replied to).

          I always find one good way of judging a person's integrity is the opposition's reaction to them. The YouTube user called 'connectingdots' is a good example of this. Connectingdots, as well as at least three YouTube channels, is on zillions of different domains all over the internet. There are so many holes in what this person says that it is obviously propaganda (paid for by big business, the CIA; who cares when it comes to lies). And if this person wants to respond to me, go ahead, because I've got enough on you, pal, to totally demolish you, for ever.

          The idea, of course, is that if anyone does a search on Dana it will trawl up as many character assassination sites as it does genuine sites. Ah, the wonders of the internet!

          Dana, of course, freely admits that he might be wrong, and the north west might be teeming with life. The propagandists can't counter that one, and so of course never mention it.

          A decade or so ago I was living on Vancouver Island, and I've traveled extensively in the Pacific north west over many years.

          I do have some idea of what the tidal zone should look like.

          We have some interesting weeks ahead of us.


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  • Proton

    Does that include the GIANT HUGE ENORMOUS (etc etc) plume from unit 3 on 3/14/11 shown here?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndtcw6Os-wo


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  • davidh7426 davidh7426

    I see their STILL running with the 'One initial release' fairy tale…

    I wonder if they'll ever have the balls to release a simulation of the true 'constant' leakage.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    We had a thread last week with an eyewitness report that workers could hear corium moving through the mudrock under the Fukushima reactor ruins.
    My opinion from the beginning has been that 5,000C corium burns through mudrock, and everything else, very quickly.
    After 20 days, all that would be found under the plant is a corium lava tube filled with warm groundwater.
    However, the TEPCO Fukushima Reactor Wash crew loses 1/3 or more of the 300 tonnes per day of cooling water they still spray into the ruins of the 3 containment vessels.
    Add to this loss the contamination of groundwater flowing through nuclear debris in the corium lava tubes underneath Reactors1-3, and I'd say the high contamination levels continue to the present day.

    "…assuming constant and continuous leakage for 20 days (scenario 1) and for one year (scenario 2) starting from March 25th, 2011 and was integrated for 20 years…"

    As usual, take the "one year" (scenario 2), and add 2 1/2 years to the model and run it.

    Multiply your assumptions by 10,000 to take into account the molten fuel that was actually ex-reactor-building from day 2 on…

    Damn, I sure wish these models were in the public domain, so that ENEnewsers could run some scenarios of our own!
    Listen up, grad students on this project. Copy and publish that program.

    Where is the corium, eh, TEPCO? ;)
    And please release your latest working 3D map of the underground corium, won't you? ;)

    Us ENEnewsers wanna know…


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    • bf9 bf9

      That's exactly the thing, depending on where the lost cores are they won't need water anymore. Let's say this thing went right on down and fast like the testimonies suggest. This can both a blessing and a curse, as the amount of water they need to treat and store will greatly be reduced. If those things look less like a root system and more like a taproot going straight down, all you can do is isolate/remove the leftover material as deep as possible and isolate it- hopefully if in "blob" form it does reach the magma chamber we'll get a stroke of luck and it'll stay there with no major event. That issue MIGHT be able to take care of itself.

      But you can't find the answer to a problem without understanding the question at hand. Which brings me to…

      Where are the coria, Tepco?


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      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        bf9, you got the entire thing about right.
        Here is how this goes:
        Corium reaches 5,000C from continuous criticalities throughout the corium.
        Water flashes to steam at the crust, and does not affect the internal temperature of the corium.
        Mudrock and sandstone melts, mixing briefly with corium.
        Heavy elements in this 5,000C atomic soup (nuclides) move downward by gravity.
        Lighter elements in this atomic soup (mudrock and sandstone) move upward, and solidify into the glass walls of the corium lava tube.
        Your "taproot" model is correct.
        Down and down it goes….

        Groundwater and seawater will pour down the corium lava tubes forever, until the flow is stopped.
        This makes imperative the diversion of groundwater, by means of an Impermeable Wall of steel and concrete.
        This Impermeable Wall must surround Reactors1-4.
        An underground wall must reach at least to the less permeable rock layer, at approximately 100' deep, that constitutes the lower limit of the aquifer.
        If we build such a wall, it may be possible to contain this accident.
        If we, the human race, fail to do so, we might be doomed as a species.
        Right now, we are letting politics and payoffs determine the plan, the unworkable and futile waste of time that is Abe's Frozen Wall, the wall that will never freeze.
        PM Abe, you should be ashamed of yourself.
        Abe should be detained, and investigated for taking bribes. ;)

        Where is the corium, indeed?


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        • Runningonlove Runningonlove

          Sounds like the best idea that could be feasible, as an engineering challenge, Philip. But nobody is answering the political challenge that could get the project started…it's all obfuscation, business as usual, and what me worry? denial.
          Doomed as a species indeed, and not with a bang, but with a grunt of greed and blindness.


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          • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

            Politics and bribery are still allowed to rule the day.
            What were the Japanese people thinking when they elected pro-nuke Abe PM?
            The Frozen Wall might be a a gigantic waste of time, enrighing the contractor, and those in public service the contractor has to pay off along the way.
            In two years or three years, TEP.gov will be forced to throw in the towel on this unworkable technology, and go with an Impermeable Wall Enclosure.
            The crime in this delay is that contaminated groundwater will continue to flow under Fukushima unabated.
            At least TEPCO is no longer able to hide behind the fiction that the corium is "contained".
            It is now clear to everyone that the corium has escaped into nature.

            Where is the damn corium, TEPCO? ;)


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      • Noah

        Bf9
        I vote for tap root straight down. I agree

        Very well done.

        So, What we are looking at is well shape with the coria at the bottom of the well.


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  • ELE day was 3/11/11. Payday will be sometime along in 2041.

    The colors of death are VIBRANT and my findings are the best weapon against the lying pack of nuktarded morons. If you know what I am referring to and how to use it. I know 7th grade science IS tuff when you have never learned it, I understand folks. Please get your eyes attuned to this horror before YOU; ya I am talking to YOU, are next on the cancer goodie list.

    Click my name for more information. I have visible proof of this ~>

    http://enenews.com/newspaper-strontium-90-from-fukushima-detected-along-west-coast-of-n-america-months-ago-plutonium-might-be-in-the-plume-scientist-no-sign-releases-from-plant-are-going-to-stop-there


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  • Another article on the scam of "Global warming"

    And keep in mind, the nuketards are still using "nuke can save the world with low CO2 paired in with the scam of global warming.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/no_warming_for_19_years?nk=7eec354d518c0387aa1e481039877fe7


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    • Socrates

      Stock,

      Cosmicconvergence.org has some interesting reasons for climate change other than greenhouse gasses.

      I have used a Bunson burner in a closed space with plants to generate a CO2-enriched atmosphere for plants to see if the plants grow faster. They did. I would imagine that the world's plants would grow faster and produce more O2 in a homeostatic process to compensate for more CO2 produced by the industrial revolution.

      Having searched for fossils in North America, it is evident that the climate changes before mankind was around. Other planets go through changes in weather, too. I am all for taxing pollutants but let's start with nuclear and chemical pollution rather than with carbon.


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      • Well said wise man, LOL

        Indeed, the other planets are currently undergoing even more drastic weather changes than earth. Jupiter even lost a red spot.

        And certainly we can and should reduce pollutants, and China is the 800 lb gorilla in that regard.


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        • We Not They Finally

          Other planets warming is a REALLY interesting topic. Like "The Venus Syndrome." That planet is a mess. Wonder if they have some perverted version of humankind doing the damage. Either that or the solar system is just now predisposed towards warming.

          In any case, there are a certain part of species here on Earth inclined to opportunistically maximize whatever damage they can find. Sort of like a "all things work together for bad" if it's in the wrong hands.


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      • razzz razzz

        'Global Warming Being Exposed as a Fraud'

        "…Global Warming has been a fantastic excuse to raise taxes and now regulate cow farting in Europe. How about eliminating all the hot air created by worthless government programs? If we eliminated career politicians and voted from our laptops on every initiative, think of all the limousines that would not be driving them around and special plane flights for their vacations."
        http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/09/01/global-warming-being-exposed-as-a-fraud/


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        • We Not They Finally

          There apparently IS global warming, but how it is being MARKETED, and the FALSE SOLUTIONS are a huge fraud.

          It's been made intentionally confusing. The only one we have found who gives real clarity is Dane Wigington of geoengineeringwatch.org. He's NOT in denial about Fukushima, and he is certainly NO ally of Al Gore. He'll just lay out a bunch of shocking realities and how they intersect.

          Ironically, many of the causes of global warming (like take HAARP, which is "an ionospheric heater,") are hidden from the public; and chemtrails (said to COMBAT global warming? — huge lie!) actually CAUSES more of it.

          But apparently it is there. Like take the ongoing escalating releases of methane from the sea. That cannot happen had the oceans not been becoming WARMER.

          It's just surrounded with fraud reasons, fraud remedies, fraud fraud fraud.


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          • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

            @WNTF

            I just had an awful moment of truth(?), horror(?): What if our own government gave us Fukushima to reduce the population. After all, if they can survive, they can make money off of the replenishment stock.


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            • I don't believe that. Stupidity, denial, and greed can cause Fuku without a consipracy.


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              • I agree. Stock says – "Stupidity, denial, and greed can cause Fuku without a conspiracy."

                Yep, and one of the largest earthquakes in known history with a massive tsunami isn't to be overlooked either. Put that on top of human behavior and dangerous technology and you have a real mess.

                And, i'm thinking that governments who want to reduce their populations have many ways of doing just that. Take China and North Korea under Mao and Il for example. Two generations and nearly a billion dead from starvation, cutting their general populations by almost 1/4. One child policies by another 1/4 in China. Next generation under that policy and it will drop by nearly 1/2. All without having to poison yourself to get it done. Then, there's always war. Observable brutal tactics governments have used for centuries and still effective – it's called attrition. There are conspiracies. Many horrible deeds done in secret. But, the conspirators seek to protect themselves and not suffer the same fate as their hapless victims. With radiation, everyone suffers, some more than others, but, eventually everyone will be impacted.


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          • Al is haranguing people about fossil fuel consumption and global warming while we are doing our best to shout out the awful news about nuclear reactors and radiation. No difference from a social change point of view – we are both up against behemoth established industries that lie, cheat and steal and certainly have entire advertising agencies just for ridiculing naysayers and debunking the science. Understanding the proof, doing the tests, gathering the data and making sense of things IS complex in both instances. The claims most climatologist make about global warming are not the claims we are treated to throughout the media. The same goes for nuclear radiation. We bitch about it here everyday. Both are occurring in some measure. Both present hazards. Both are being media suppressed. Both have worked for years to get their message out. It's finally starting to take with global warming because ice sheets are melting, islands are being deluged, and oil is getting mighty expensive so governments are looking for what the other options might be. It could be the same for ending nuclear energy – in time, enough will see it is dangerous AND because it just gets too expensive to pay the insurance company.


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      • One issue with Sunlight folks…It will be reduced exponentially over time as Barium137 from Cs137 change from Chernobyl takes place in the air starting in 2016. And even sooner in Jan 2015 when the St90 to Yt90 to Zr90 chain of events begins.

        Also Stock, that Jupiter event was from a series of comet fragments from Comet Shoemaker-Levi impacts effecting the atmosphere in 1994. Also the extra UV radiation from the center of the Milky Way galaxy is effecting the entire solar system. and causing storms on most of the planets.

        http://www.space.com/12754-photos-strongest-storms-planets-solar-system.html


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      • If i may clear up a misperception – not a single climatologists has EVER suggested the climate did not drastically change all on its own without mankind to blame. What is happening now, however, can be linked to the burning of carbon if for no other reason than the carbon that WE BURN can be identified in the atmosphere separate from other sources of Co2 and other gas releases. The amounts are astronomical, but, given our reliance on it, we tend to wish it were not one of the more destructive acts humans have ever committed. The US stands to gain considerably through a warmer climate while other countries such as is already happening in Africa, will perish. Most civilization is along the coastlines and this will cost trillions in damages. It isn't that life stops from global warming. It is that civilizations are ON:LY stable on predictable weather patterns. The slightest damage from storms impact trade and commerce and ripples through the economy. THAT is the issue, not the warming per se.


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  • razzz razzz

    Nuclear adhesion? Well, they won't have any problem tracking the waterborne plumes. Should light up satellite sensors. Til 2026? The gift that keeps on giving.

    San Diego is enjoying the benefits from a weak EL Nino with topical waters being sent its way along with topical fish. Sea temperatures have been above 70 degrees all summer here. Usually a fog bank hugs the coast because of colder offshore waters but not this year.

    San Diego gets less than 10 inches of rain a year which qualifies it to be a desert zone even though Phoenicians visiting from Arizona to escape their heat will comment on how green it is here.

    Our pal Kenny will be able to track migrant patterns of those topical fish much more easily now after uptaking Daiichi radioactive plume fallout.


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    • Socrates

      "Semi-arid" is the term they use. Desert is 3 inches or less per year.

      Ironically, it rained several times this summer in San Diego. People say, "We need the rain."

      The problem is that what we need is snow pack in the mountains. Most rain simply runs off into storm drains. The snow pack is what is able to provide a supply of water throughout the entire year. California will go through a major shortage of water with San Diego facing major shortages. I would place a moratorium on building until the supply is assured. Our water is being rationed already. The East County is very dry. I flew over in June. I used to fly in the back country twenty-five years ago frequently. I have never seen it so dry as it was in June. I expect many more wildfires in late September. This Spring was the worst wildfire season I have ever seen in Southern California for sixty years.

      Food prices will go up quickly for fruits, veggies and nuts. Wine will be bad in Napa without the cooling marine layers in September. The grapes will ripen too fast.


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      • razzz razzz

        All major San Diego county reservoirs (not really dams per se) are filled from Colorado River water via 6' diameter pipes branching off from delivery aquaducts. The Carlsbad desalination plant will produce a drop in the bucket but better than nothing.

        How do you verify vintage wines? Test them for manmade radioactivity. Usually look for manmade cesium. Manmade fallout begins showing up starting in 1945. Grapes grown and made into wines before that year would be certifiable. Would apply to many other thing like metal forging as an example.


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      • We Not They Finally

        "I would place a moratorium on building until the supply is assured." Actually, would place a moratorium on building in California for A LOT of reasons. I guess some "someone will wind up with California," but at this rate, it is unlikely to be Californians, whose property values will plummet, at least short range.

        Who is pulling these strings and why? NATURE did this? I'd sooner watch Dane Wigington with his realities of geoengineering.


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        • Runningonlove Runningonlove

          WNTF, I know this sounds like some cheap B movie, but what if…
          TPTB geoengineers create a California mega-drought, one that lasts long enough (years) to force most private agriculture to go bankrupt…Mega-corps Monsanto, Cargill, etc move in, buy up ALL the erstwhile farms for pennies on the dollar…geoengineers turn the rainfall back on, after a year or 2 all is fertile again, only under new consolidated ownership…welcome to the global plantation, peasants! I think I'm gonna lose my grapefruit that I just ate….


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    • Shaker1

      razzz, OT, but I've never heard of those from Phoenix referred to as 'Phoenicians'. I obviously haven't heard everything, but I lived there for 9 months working a job while nurturing a distinct dislike for the city.

      The word gives me to think of those who founded Carthage, etc. the sea peoples of the ancient Mediterranean.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Certainly is going to be a wild ride in CA, but I am not sure that the raising of any taxes, which is just like the sheering of many sheep, is going to solve the lack of rainfall problems and/or snow pack problems. We can not tax our way out of this problem, CA needs better water storage and management of their fluctuating yearly water supplies.

    Of course when you throw in a 3 non stop Nuclear core meltdowns like Fukushima, only 5000 miles away, all bets are off as to how this massive amount of released fake manmade energy will interact with the Pacific Ocean and her sky rivers controlling such rain fall and snow pack levels.

    One more year of drought will be very devastating too/for southern CA, panic will set in, two or three more years and California will shut down most of it's southern ag doors and food production farms…then we will all panic nation wide.


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    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Right you are, Obewanspeaks! :)


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    • razzz razzz

      California legislature is already beginning to re-claim water rights due to the drought. They already mandated Sierra run off to flow undisturbed to the Sacramento river deltas. Supposedly to replenish silts and sandbars. Banned pumping to allow a non-indigenous smelt to survive in native streams and rivers. Northern lakes suffer intrusion from some kind of foreign snail that rapidly multiplies and upsets the ecosystem and clogs water pump intakes on farms and reservoirs.

      Makes no sense.

      San Onofre was shut down by pure luck. Diablo nuke plant is an accident waiting to happen but no worries there. Windmill and solar collector farms kill off more birds and bats than should ever be allowed but 'green' trumps the environment, a contradiction in terms. You can't drive off road for recreation but you can build access roads, sink foundations and dig trenches to build a windmill farm. Now they have voted to ban plastic shopping bags. You would think they would have something better to do like balance the budget or stop spending taxpayers money but never let a serious crisis go to waste.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Yes, they are doing things and of course… never ever let a good crises go to waste. :)

        I have not used those plastic bags in years..cloth/boxes only. Works fine for me! Reminds me when I grab them that I am doing ..more shopping! :) Hopefully I will buy less..

        These massive releases of Manmade Nuclear Radiation Contamination can be and should be considered… a disturbance felt in the Force.

        We are experiencing this "felt disturbance in the Force" right now, right here, in CA.. :(

        This is going to be a long dismal ride and why might you ask?

        Because we "can't stop" this ongoing Manmade Nuclear Radiation Contamination problem flowing directly out of Japan…. :(

        Turn your speakers up..
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tNhGTlQwiY


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        razz, the windmill and solar panel bird kills are easy fixes, grids or screens for the wind mills and dispersion reflective technology at the solar farms. None of the fixes are rocket science and if they go down/fail you wont lose a percentage of land to massive contamination. They need to spend a few more bucks to solve the bird kill issue..solve the issues..then embrace the technologies. :)

        Use the Earth's energy and convert it to your usable energy…


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        • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

          @razz & obewan;Another negative impact of the windmill farms in either Texas or NM was that bats were also being killed by some type of near-field effect that causes them to drop dead without being in physical contact with the wind turbines and subsequent exponential increases in disease-carrying mosquitoes & other insect populations they feed on that are harmful to crops & livestock had raised concerns as their was estimated to be a loss of 500,000+ of the crucially important bats in the first study over 2 years ago[?]! At there wasn't any way to stop it,I'm guessing the issue has gotten worse by now??!! :(
          On the other hand I saw some very intriguing alternative energy technologies that I truly hope has no daunting functionality issues and lives up to the great promises they hold. One of the BEST IMHO involved a device that actually doesn't need any steam or outside fuel source,only "heat" underground is converted directly into electricity! I don't know all of the details and there's limitations dependent upon the geography & proximity to the magma heat sources and I'm guessing seismic zones while good in terms of underground heat/fuel sources, might make the equipment used susceptible to earthquake damage[?] Focusing on durability,design modifications & engineering the devices to withstand seismic/climatic/soil-strata variables if needed can only help propel these innovations to the top of their class!! :) (Wish I remember the device & co.'s name?!!)C-U L8er


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          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Johnny anything is better than oil and Nuclear…


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          • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

            I would LOVE to be a player in the field of renewable & truly "CLEAN" energy industry if I ever got the opportunity to leave behind such an honorable legacy to show for my life!! Of course that can't happen while my every moment is focused on & dictated by my hunny's many major health issues…I hate to admit that nobody else in the family has stepped up to help in any significant way & some even brought more harm on her & me or vice-versa! I have & still would take on caregiver duties for family and/or good friends,but it's been a one-way street to date so I doubt they will change much and there's one in-law in particular who had better not think of showing up at my Sandy's wake,funeral or memorial service that may just find me joining her in leaving this world of shit behind. Any bucket-list that would include a list of foul individuals I'd like to take with me would not join us,or at least my wife in her ascent to meet St. Peter at the gates :( 'Scuse the sudden change of format & demeanor please[?]!-I just witnessed & assisted my wife during a nasty seizure triggered by the same pos and the holiday weekend kept funds from reaching our account in time to prevent 3 days of hunger & symptoms of taking her many caustic meds on an empty stomach! Just moments ago our 3rd air mattress since flopping @ my mom's just blew up & makes for at least one more night(& bday for her!)of sleeping on the hardwood floor??!! :( WTF!!NOW I gotta sign out b4 being on a PO'd roll…


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            • Runningonlove Runningonlove

              What about "Zero point", aka the "energy from the vacuum"
              harvested via magnetically-based generators. Nicola Tesla worked on this system 100 years ago…and demonstrated free electricity, generated and delivered wirelessly.
              But then, JP Morgan pulled the financial plug on Tesla, the the spooks stole ALL his research after his death, and zero point vanished into the black ops zone. There have been others to explore this system, but for obvious reasons TPTB want their oil/nuke oligarchy to max-profit, and free energy is consigned to the phantom zone. The blind lead the blind, AGAIN.


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            • razzz razzz

              Johnny Blade: What I read about animals and windmill deaths is that flyers don't have to actually hit the blades. The leading edge of the blades create a low pressure front, tips vortexes and either flyers get sucked in or lungs explode because of the pressure differences.

              "…Wind power, a pollution-free energy intended to ease global warming, is a cornerstone of President Barack Obama's energy plan. His administration has championed a $1 billion-a-year tax break to the industry that has nearly doubled the amount of wind power in his first term.

              "Climate change is really greatest threat that we see to species conservation in long run," said Fish and Wildlife Service director Dan Ashe in an interview with the AP on Monday. "We have an obligation to support well-designed renewable energy."

              The result is a green industry that's allowed to do not-so-green things.

              More than 573,000 birds are killed by the country's wind farms each year, including 83,000 hunting birds such as hawks, falcons and eagles, according to an estimate published in March in the peer-reviewed Wildlife Society Bulletin.

              Getting precise figures is impossible because many companies aren't required to disclose how many birds they kill. And when they do, experts say, the data can be unreliable…"
              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/14/wind-farms-bird-deaths_n_3270691.html

              Sucks to have to choose between the lesser of two evils.


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        • mt1000

          bird kill bunk is from the Koch bros. …


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          • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

            it was TX fruit bats and a "real" issue,but not enuff to change my feelings on nuclear or coal that doesn't include power co.'s spending the money to implement "scrubber" technology if they must go the "dirty" route. Make no mistake about it,"we are on the same page" on our thoughts on such matters! :) Between sitting in the dark(blowing up another effin' air mattress!! GGRRR!)by candlelight or flipping on the nuclear powered light switch,then I hope I have enuff candles to get through the rest of my life!! There really isn't ANY sacrifice I'd be unwilling to make towards SHUTTING the ENTIRE nukey-pukey infrastructure short of personally "canceling their subscriptions to LIFE" not "if" but 'WHEN" Sandy goes to Heaven by their dirty hand!! Let 'em bump my name on their shitium-list up another notch! I don't give a flying fuck & furthermore haven't made a single false statement or lied other than to "water down" the vigilantism growing in my heart with every minute of suffering I see her & everyone else from their growing pool of victims! They're embracing circumstances in "their" control to keep me from doing the driving she isn't supposed to be & added me to their pos "no-fly list" already anyways!! If you all knew certain details & circumstances TPTB have exploited to discredit me & keep me imprisoned where they can keep tabs on & increase their attacks on my person & posing harm for my loved ones you'd be angered too,maybe "reluctant" to…


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            • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

              actively participate in ANY ant-PTB activism??!! :( But while nervously anticipating what I KNOW will be their next move to "remove" me from their long list of angered dissidents,I'll again state for the record,"FUCK YOU NUKE-PUKE CROOKED BASTARDS & THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON"!!!
              Look real hard & dig deep MFers if you wanna attack an honest man opposed to corporate foulness at the highest of homicidal levels!!! But do a bang-up job,because I'll come back & it WILL be "GAME ON" bitches!!! ;) TAKE CARE PEEPS! BLADE OUT………….


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            • I told people to use candles for light and heat. Some idiot out here told me the dangers of paraffin burning. You people need to get a reality check here. I am NOT the enemy here. You people all SHOT the messenger. Now I have notice anyone who DOES understand this stuff has taken the credit of course. I have always conserved. The power company REFUSES to give me the way to get solar power due to my LACK of usage!!! I am looking into discrimination. This cold be a way to supplement my income, and I have again been told NO to any way I can to pay for my house after the bastards took half the value away in 2008.


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    • We Not They Finally

      obewan, look into Dane Wigington PLEASE. He's the premiere source of info on genengineering and is clear that California is being droughted deliberately. Which means that there is a strategy and a goal, so attempts to save this, however heroic, may be no match.

      As they drain away the water, WE would have to drain away all kinds of black ops funds to the military. It's unclear that that is doable or how it would happen.


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  • Atavist

    Thanx again for all the info. Recently returned from my second trip up the BC coast this year with a PRM 9000. Should have the fish samples run through a private gamma spectrography unit before month end-figuring that 45lb spring salmon have been swimming in whatever's coming here for better than 4 years will carry a signature. It ain't the people who will panic at the truth (they'll get mad)-it is the useless politicians, lobbyists, and bureaucrats that ARE panicking right now.


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    • Haidagwaii Haida Gwaii

      Actually you probably have a salmon that has spent 5 or 6 years at sea. Too bad you couldn't return the fish back to the ocean allow its return to its natal stream. Fish over 40 lbs are pretty rare now, bonking a Tyee is not considered cool anymore. I personally prefer a chinook salmon between 15 to 22 lbs for eating. I'm assuming the fish was bleeding and live releasing it wouldn't have made any sense. Eating that majestic fish is the only logical choice in that situation. A quickly released salmon has a 85 to 90 percent chance of survival.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_and_release
      http://www.langara.com/news/03May/News.html


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      • We Not They Finally

        Why would you keep eating salmon? It's all suspect whether your one particular salmon shows it or not.


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        • StPaulScout StPaulScout

          We – You still drinking milk? I am, but radiation is getting into and on all food stuffs. Salmon? If you like it what the hell. After all, shit has already hit the fan anyhow.


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          • Haidagwaii Haida Gwaii

            I agree you St Paul Scout. It's getting tougher to find something healthy to eat. I wouldn't recommend eating salmon more than once or twice a month. Same goes for halibut.
            Interesting fact I believe. Canada ended the capture for halibut over 120 cm in 2011. This was done to protect the large breeding females, which bio-accumulate as the fish ages, halibut over this size are toxic from mercury and other heavy metals. Was this really done because of Fukushima though?


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Nuclear is wormwood where ever it travels and no matter where its produced.. if is produced by man..
    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/villagers-in-india-claim/1335476.html

    Salty and stride in the same article.. :(

    And..
    http://www.wunderground.com/resources/climate/nuke.asp

    There has been tons of research already published in the last 70 years about the effects of Nuclear Bombs and the Radiation Contamination Energy direct negative effects on local and distant weather patterns. We should have paid attention instead of sticking our heads inside the Vulcan TV boxes..
    http://www.orgonelab.org/oranur.htm

    Google: How Nuclear Nuclear Testing Effects Weather

    Pretty sure the explosions at those plants in Japan could be considered like bombs..


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    oops..only one Nuclear, but you could add a word like India or another country for some of the other research already out there.


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  • Cooter Cooter

    In any article I want a abstract that is cradle to grave in less than 150 words.

    Like;
    Nansen is doing theoretical computer simulation using, the biggest computer we could find. Our impute data source is TEPCO, NOAA, along with the date and time. Standard protocols in place. Ran simulation using xxx parameters to fit model, run each cell yyy times for verification before next step of simulation. Document everything and poop out the results.

    I want to see the raw data supplied to this Nansen outfit, otherwise it's garbage in garbage out. The only thing that can be gleaned is that these simulations are MINIMUM to the "oceans ionizing radiation pathways". Like Socrates said, what about the atmosphere? What about facts and figures that are relative to the issue at hand?

    Fukushima Daiichi is probably the most studied event in human history and all they have for us is a simulation with unknown data sources. In architecture we call this a pretty picture and worthless.

    The truth is out there, it can't hide forever. Somewhere out there is a unique individual who will be able to see the greater good and speak out.


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  • earthsmith earthsmith

    ha haa ha…. 2026 what flipping joke…. ha haaah ha…FFFOOOOOLLLSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    From the looks of the model, the highest radiation will pass right over the Pacific Gyre of Plastic.

    Wonder what THAT could do.


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    • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

      hello pinksailmatt; I recently pored through the following decent find that has many studies directly from the sources doing actual research on the very subjects at issue & mentioned. One of them said it was observed that the radiation dispersed quickly to 200 meters depth at high concentrations due to a layer of lighter water near the surface. There's plenty more worth digging through though. Hope it's found useful for something anyways? Take Care http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    Surely this is not true:
    Artificial Radiation Belts (unclassified)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artificial_radiation_belts
    This is just totally evil


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    The truth space is often a very scary/shocking place…


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  • We Not They Finally

    "The results of the ensembles indicate that the nuclear pollutant for both scenarios transports eastward to eastern Pacific."

    Wow. Looks like all you need to know is how much was released and in what direction it's heading. Throw in bio-accumulation in the bottom of the food chain, and bio-magnification up through the layers of the food chain and voila!, it's all over but "how long does this all take."


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  • Runningonlove Runningonlove

    It strikes me as quite odd that this Norwegian study/simulation only proposed models for a 20-day, and a 1-year leakage scenario. This was published in 2013, when presumably any scientist worthy of the name would have been aware that the leakage was still ongoing. Cogmitive dissonance, wishful thinking, industry payoff or what? The 2026 map is interesting,showing a bigtime longterm blowback to Baja peninsula, and Hawaii. Of course, unless the dike/impermeable steel wall shut-off-the-tap scenario miraculously comes to pass, I suppose the whole Earth Ocean will progressively grow ever more radioactive. Dilution? Not so much. More like Goodnight Vienna.


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  • demise demise

    The plume graphic is pure fiction. It assumes the leak is plugged. It is still running like a river into the sea, but highly poisoned and never ending. The government knows this and thats why the police are being militarized and Homeland Security bought 1.6 billion bullets. They also have tapped every computer and phone line. Read between the lines! Marshall law before the 2016 elections. Just sit and watch and pay the price.


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  • mt1000

    Dana's focus has been on the bottom of the food chain …. mollusks and such. He is expert on tide pool lifeforms.
    So-called experts in the field have fled there responsibilities to the human race and are not to be trusted.


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  • mt1000

    arrggg …. my comment was in reply to clamshellernh …. but it got posted wrong….


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  • rogerthat

    https://networks.h-net.org/system/files/contributed-files/hymans-pfj-final-h-energy.pdf
    Veto Players and Japanese Nuclear Policy after Fukushima
    Jacques E.C. Hymans
    Associate Professor of International Relations University of Southern California hymans@usc.edu
    [This is an advance draft of a chapter that will appear in the book Japan: The Precarious Years Ahead, edited by Frank Baldwin and Anne Allison, forthcoming from the Social Science Research Council and New York University Press (SSRC/NYUP, 2015). Comments welcome.]
    The major goal of this chapter is to explain Japan’s failure to reform its long-term nuclear
    policy in a coherent and credible manner as late as three years after the Fukushima disaster…


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.meetup.com/FukushimaSurvivors/
    The purpose of this group is to form in the United States a strong, dispersed, multi-location group of concerned citizens and activists who will take upon ourselves the task of building the necessary information gathering and dissemination network of facts and remedies pertaining to Fukushima; and to study how the populations of the world can protect ourselves and our children now and in future generations…
    If you live on this earth and value the beauty and grandeur nature has given us then join us. If you value your health and the health of your children and loved ones then join us. If you think the government and the media needs to stop lying to us about the scope and the dangers involved with the release of radio active material into the atmosphere and oceans then join us. If you are concerned with this planet's energy issues and how we are going to provide ourselves and future generations with a clean and healthy environment in which to live then join us…

    .


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  • rogerthat

    http://hempnayer.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/fukushima-mitsuhei-murata-addresses.html
    It is imperative that we fix Fukushima now. Using hempcrete, lead, tungsten and hemp plastic we can entomb the gushing, in ruins nuclear plant using the 3D printing technique of "contour crafting"…


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.preparedsociety.com/forum/f31/fukushima-no-problem-25733/#post360804
    … Wild boar are thought to be particularly affected because they root through the soil for food, and feed on mushrooms and underground truffles that store radiation. Many mushrooms from the affected areas are also believed to be unfit for human consumption.
    Since 2012, it has been compulsory for hunters to have wild boar they kill in Saxony tested for radiation. Carcasses that exceed the safe limit of 600 becquerels per kg have to be destroyed.
    In a single year, 297 out of 752 boar tested in Saxony have been over the limit, and there have been cases in Germany of boar testing dozens of times over the limit. …


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  • maybesomeday

    Lessons Learned: Disaster Prevention Day September 1 in Japan. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/01/japanese-earthquake-wipe-out-toilet-paper "Toshiyuki Hashimoto, a ministry official in charge of paper products, warned of a nationwide toilet paper shortage crisis for about a month if the area [Shizuoka, central Japan] is hit by an imminent Tokai mega-quake, a lesson learned from the deadly March 2011 earthquake and tsunami in northern Japan."


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  • rogerthat

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/views/editorial/AJ201409020016
    EDITORIAL: Storing radioactive debris should not be regarded as Fukushima’s problem
    …Essentially, the potential risks inherent in nuclear power generation and the burdens of dealing with its legacies are issues that should be considered by the whole nation.
    During meetings to explain the intermediate storage facility to local residents, some participants expressed their wishes to see it located in Tokyo. Others argued that the burden should be shared with areas that consume electricity generated by nuclear power.
    These comments are natural responses to the proposal if the decision is based on the principle that the burden should be shared fairly by the beneficiaries.
    We will face the same problem when we try to determine who should shoulder the burden from the disposal of aged nuclear reactors and spent nuclear fuel…
    - people are starting to wake up to the awful reality that nuclear power has a never-ending, increasingly toxic legacy that can never be cleaned up, that can never be contained, and that will end up destroying the country that houses the plants and eventually the planet. yippee. pity it's a tad late in the day.


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  • rogerthat

    http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20140902p2a00m0na018000c.html
    Gov't body cuts compensation for deaths over Fukushima disaster
    … "It has become clear that the ADR (Alternative Dispute Resolution) cannot be trusted. It raises the question as to who the ADR is working for. Unless our clients ask for it, we will not use the ADR any longer."


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  • rogerthat

    http://america.aljazeera.com/blogs/scrutineer/2014/9/2/loving-fukushimanuclearwaste.html
    This is a tale of two cities. Or counties … or prefectures.
    One of those places, Loving County, Texas, somewhere between El Paso and Odessa, is practically a ghost town, with about 95 people scattered across an area twice the size of New York City.
    There’s not a lot going on in Loving, and not a lot of money to make a lot go on. But all that could change if the area starts taking the country’s high-level radioactive waste — and the $28 billion that comes along with it.
    The other of those places is also pretty much a ghost town, with a mere handful of stubborn residents scattered across a region that once was home to over 200,000.
    That place, too, could see a big influx of cash if it agreed to accept radioactive waste, but don’t expect to see many inhabitants, old or new, stream back to follow the money…
    - By Gregg Levine. A brilliant bit of journalism that's worth a full read.


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  • maybesomeday

    If approved: "The NRC rule would pave the way for nuclear waste to be stored in cooling pools at reactor sites for up to 120 years." http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/08/nuclear-regulatory-commission-radioactive-waste-magwood Does anyone know if this was approved by the NRC?


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  • This is a good time to have a large garden that can provide all your families food for the whole year.

    If it is possible, you should do it. And with wilder weather ahead, do an irrigation system out of the gate.


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    • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

      +311 stock!; I got my green thumb growing & developing new strains of high grade cannabis a LONG time ago and it applies to most flowering and/or fruit producing plants as well. I KNOW I was born for a reason and I may be at the low end of THIS society's totem pole,but I got skillz either naturally or through hard work at every thing I do,NOT from my short term employment as a corporate indentured servant resource. I ride & shoot straight too but that comes from the heart!Fertilizers are thick in the MSM air,but I get mine when the old finger pokes thru the toilet paper! ;) lol…seriously though, I spied 10 acres VERY close to Pacbitun Farm for a bit over 100k and I spend time preparing for the chance that I can figure something out to make this Belizean pipe dream a reality. got a Ham Radio license & I'm ok with a soldering iron & known as "MacGuyver" in these parts so the transition to "Jungle Boy" would come easy for me. I'm also of the dying breed that actually knows how to read a compass and maps rather than an EMP vulnerable GPS unit. I've put about 3 million rounds of all calibers downrange,a quarter of that I handloaded the ammo myself and I've built firearms from scratch. I know of 3 different ways of sourcing CLEAN water in the bush and use gravity & solar powered pumps to feed irrigation system drip lines. Best of all, I TRULY CARE ABOUT "PEOPLE" and would do ANYTHING to help others in distress without panicking & acting like a fool.How would I fare?…


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      • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

        P.S., I don't fit into this industrial,toxic,corrupt society in a country falsely promoting itself as being "free" but FAR from it even if it's the closest this world's got to offer! I also know how good even bad food tastes the 1st time it slides down my throat hole in days,today held just such a reminder of that and how grateful I am to those who made it possible and there's a very good chance that my greatest benefactor and friend will read these words of appreciation knowing I'm speaking of them[?]! THANK YOU______!!! :)
        I may be "lost" in this ratrace,materialistic society/civilization,but I'd thrive in terrain & conditions the elite would fail in almost immediately. I must have caveman blood running strong in my genes because I've never felt comfortable in the "urban jungle" despite surviving the worst it's 2-legged predatory primates have thrown my way! Yes I've got my hands full with my sick wife and family dropping like flies on a Tomioka windowsill,but I handle my shit and people around when natural disasters have struck follow my lead & instructions as if I were a magnet & live to tell about it another day. I've put myself in harms way for others my whole life and there's a family whose children grew up because I ran into their burning building and carried the kids to safety,even the little shit hiding in a closet who bit me when I picked her up!!LOL (scars to prove it!) Please consider having me sign on for the long haul?I won't let u down!…


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        • Tung Jen Tung Jen

          Hey Johnny I think you would fit in here quite nicely.


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          • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

            @Tung Jen; Thank you!, I've been following your posts including your earlier ones under your 1st screen name with great interest! :) You would like my wife Sandy and we'd enjoy your company more than hanging out with the younger,partying crowd you mentioned feeling out of place around. There aren't many 'newsers posts & the vibes they send out that I didn't catch out here & your kind,gentle,caring aura stands out as one of the people who inspired my daydreams of tropical paradise in a home surrounded by real & genuine friends looking out for one another. As a matter of fact,I can think of a BUNCH of 'newsers who I wish I had as neighbors & personal friends!
            I have a few things holding me back at presnt but I'm in the process of removing the obstacles as I type this and if things fall into place I just might make the 2,825 mile journey and show up with my wife Sandy,our little Mayan longhaired Chihuahua"Teddy" in our Jeep Cherokee before TSHTF up here stateside??!! Since I've started being able to "dream" again & cling to small slivers of HOPE, it's included your adopted country & potentially blissful lifestyle. The day darkness enevelopes & overtakes everything including the moment I close my eyes to try to imagine a future worth being part of,I know that any chance of living & dying on "my terms" or of "natural" causes & circumstances will be lost forever! I wrote something being held by someone dear/trusted to be read here upon my demise but not just…


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    • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

      Man I wonder if my seed collection is still viable? The heirloom vegetable seeds came from my late grandma's pre-Monsanto garden club purchases back in the 70's and were mostly always kept sealed & in a dark,dry,cool environment. My cannabis genetics from the same era includes pure strains from pre-Soviet invasion Afghanistan,Panama Red,"real" Thai sticks,Acapulco Gold, Colombian Gold,Red,Ooaxacan sativa,"Blue"Hawaiian(from the can),authentic"Black African"(Durban Poison) and misc. early CA "sinsemilla". If I can get one of every packet of fruit & veggie seeds and/or one viable female cannabis plant from every dozen seeds I would be VERY HAPPY and seems will have struck a blow to Monsanto Frankenfood's & mutant hybrid genetics in a big way[?]! "Farmer John" would not be an offensive term if it were used to describe me in post Y@K,NewWorldOdor days! :) I wish 'NEWSERS would pool our resources and create our very own biosphere community and become THE example for the rest of the asswipes still shitting in their(&our)backyards!! There's a LOT the nuke-pukes could learn from the people here on ENEnews & I hope they're paying attention??!! Okay, back to my 1st hearty meal I've had in 4 days….it sure tastes good after my stomach began digesting itself when it thought my head was chopped off!! lol TAKE CARE ALL! TTYL Blade OUT…


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  • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

    LOL, "IF" they would still grow??!! The cannabis helps Sandy offset the side effects of her nast prescription drugs & chemo not to mention controlling seizures. SAhe feels "guilty" that it also produces euphoria instead of the nausea,etc. her many pills & IV infusions causes. The non-Monsanto tomatoes & corn,beans,etc. are probably the PRIZE portion of the collection. Now if they will just sprout & grow??!! And "where" to plant them?? Not in the radioactive soil!! My rare spare time that allows daydreaming of a better world & ways to achieve it have to include both food & medicinal plants & clean,green power sources,water,etc. Otherwise I'd be working on the stupid "suicide kit" I put together the week after Sandy was diagnosed with her cancer for use the day after she is put into the ground. :( I've got to shake off some of the negative vibes plaguing me to have a chance to have the remainder of our shortened lives hold any joy & happiness with good memories of the latter part of what's left of our life. YOU have personally changed our fate & quality of life in the meantime in a major way without going into detail. :) THANK YOU as well as our 'newser friends who gave me a place where I fit in and feel like I MATTER!! EVERYONE who is found here fighting the good fight,standing out as men amongst an outside world of pro-nuke mice, But some of you really shine and gave me the will to go on in more ways than one!!I hope I'm worthy?!!GO GREEN!not,"GLOW GREEN"!…


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    • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

      p.s., please excuse the typo errors.Something's up with my keyboard & this pc, our last working one,is probably on its way out?!! Our other "good" computer was ruined despite premium anti-virus/malware software installed??!! Gee, I wonder "who" could or "would" want to trash our pc's & "why"?!! The answer is pretty damned obvious and I guess to be expected when used to research & protest filthy nuke interests with deep pockets when it comes to causing problems for their critics & opponents rather than spending that money to shut down & replace nuclear hellholes with responsible,innovative truly CLEAN technology they loathe!! The anti-nuke websites & citizens who frequent them are prime targets for corporate-sponsored hacking & virus installations to interfere with the healthy,good-hearted missions people like us are trying to do our part for while they attack us both in principal and physically destroying our means of electronic communications & knowledge databases. I should be flattered that they'd choose to expend energy to FUKu little old ME over in any way possible,but it's another story when their BS hurts my Sandy or my loved ones which btw includes 'NEWSERS who read my ramblings!! I guess I should take both of these messed up laptop PC's to the Pawn Shop towards a trade for a new[er] one with better security features[?]!When I log off I get a message now that "other people logged into this computer may lose data if you shut down now"WTH??!! :(


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  • General User General User

    Greetings JohnnyB,
    Do you have an email address to share with an old third class radio-telephone person like me?
    I know a bit about computer security, and GranCherokees too.
    I will be leaving western Pennsylvania when I go.


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  • lam335 lam335

    "The Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant was simulated… assuming constant and continuous leakage for 20 days (scenario 1) and for one year (scenario 2) starting from March 25th, 2011"

    Why does the simulation start two weeks after the initial invents. Aren't weather conditions and ocean currents during the first two weeks relevant to plotting to course the plume would have taken across the Pacific?


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    Whoa, here she comes,
    Watch out boys, she'll chew you up
    Whoa, here she comes
    She's a man-eater

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRYFKcMa_Ek


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