Published: August 17th, 2012 at 5:54 am ET
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Title: Elderly Fukushima plant volunteer appeals for U.S. help
Source: Kyodo
Date: Aug. 17, 2012
A cofounder of a group of retirees who have volunteered to help contain the Fukushima nuclear crisis is seeking U.S. pressure to get the central government to act more swiftly in addressing the dangerous situation.
“The Japanese government is very sensitive to American voices,” [former technician with Sumitomo Metal Industries] Yasuteru Yamada, 73, of the Skilled Veterans Corps for Fukushima said Tuesday
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“A private company can’t handle such a long-term project,” and Tepco’s cleanup plans have not adequately addressed such issues as building a permanent seawall or replacing plastic hoses with something stronger, he said.
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“Fukushima No. 1 is not just an accident for Japanese people, but for you people (around the world) as well,” he said.
Published: August 17th, 2012 at 5:54 am ET
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sending...
Thanks to Yasuteru Yamada, "Skilled Veteran Corps" worker at Fukushima for speaking the truth of what must be done. But perhaps the Americans are too frightened, too afraid!
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So whats the first nation you turn to in time of need dharmasyd..
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We should spit in your hand the next time you crawl to us for help!
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help!
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arclight,
Smart Guy….. (:
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rambojim…What in god's Green nature are you talking about. spit in my hand? Me–crawl to you for help? Go back to whatever troll hell you snuck out from. Why the F—are you attacking me. sSometimes, the unreasonableness of folks on this site astonishes me.
But, as Isaac Asimov said, "If ever a species needed to be rerplaced, we do." But you just proved him right rambo the macho mambo manbo.
If you have no idea to whom you are speaking, don't speak.
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rambo…gogogo…Glad you think arclight's smart. He's always been nice to me, the whole 17 + months I've been here.
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I think there is a miss-interpation here, calm down please, and wait for an explanation.
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Sharp 2197. I apologize to you if I offended you and/or for making you feel like you needed to give me advice to calm down.
I'm a practicing Tibetan Buddhist. I have spent years, much time and energy attempting to see and understand my motivations, to realize the desire behind my actions.
I consider blogging to be a very productive training in this because of the time, the gap required before the reaction. This gives me the time to notice what I am really doing.
On several sites I have had the refputation of being the kind, compassionate one, the person who took the time to examine and understand what was happening.
The only other site where I have experienced this kind of pie-throwing flame war is GOS, Daily Kos. On that site, I have learned where to go to avoid confronting this kind of person.
I said nothing wrong that this person should have jumped all over me and told me that he/all should spit in my hand if I came asking for help. Should I have just ignored his comment? Perhaps. Should I just ignore your judgement also? I don't think so.
So I'll wait to see what explanation rambojim will give. Is that fair, Sharp? Let's both see what rambo will say!
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The way I read this is every country on earth expects the US to jump in and bail them out of a jam. And I agree with him that we should not always be there to help. Some of the countries would not lift a finger to help us, in fact some would cheer when we got into a jam.
But in this case I think we need to jump in and help for two reasons.
1. This has the potential to change life on earth.
2. We are downwind of it.
So I agree that we should not help every country that gets into a jam, but this is definately not one of them, we need to jump in with both feet and do everything possible.
In conclusion I do not feel he was attacking you, he is just frustrated that we are always looked at as the country that will bail anybody out of any problem.
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Dharmasyd, he was not spitting into your hand, it was directed towards the Japanese. Please read my explanation above.
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Well said Sharp.
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Just lost a long reply I wrote to you. Briefly, I appreciate your reasoned response. I do have more to say and wish I had not lost my post, but it is just too late to say what I would truly like to say here
Goodnight. Sweet dreams of a better world. Just one thing. I'm 79 years old. I went with my physics dept friends at UCBerkely during the Pacific tests; we went with geiger counters to measure the radiation on cars in the parking lots — 1950s. I wonder if rambojim was even born then?
I hosted and did the press work for the 40th anniversary Hibakusha tour in the 10 SW states in 1985. I worked with Sane/Freeze, the Mobilization for Survival, numerous Nevada test site actions. Was rambojim even alive yet?
During those actions I met Michio Kaku, Helen Caldicott, Robert Bowman, and John Gofman.
Please do not belittle me nor my credentials. Thank you for allowing my hurt and bruised explanation/rant.
I have felt very unappreciated on this site. It is true that I do not contribute as much as some others. But I am old and sick. I have COPD and emphysema, partly from living at peace camps like Nuremberg Actions at the Concord Naval Weapons Station. I was standing 8 feet from Brian Wilson when the US Navy train deliverately ran over and cut off his legs.
I could use some love, thanks and appreciation, or at least some understanding, not chastisement.
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@dharmasyd :
I always felt a good vibe coming from your presence here , both on the compassionate and intellectual levels, your credentials are no surprise to me but definetly only ads to me appreciation. And i'm sure i'm not the only one !
And this is comint from a heremit raised with whip and fist , a lot of blind spots in my social interaction skills, a bad temper and unreasanable paranoid sensors growing everywhere including spots where there shouldent be any extensions at all .
So screw the litle social hiccups and misunderstandings as they come and go , just focus on the bigger picture ; why everybody who likes this site is here in the first place.
Focus on the next tunnel in line !
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And to put the cherry on the appreciation cake ; thanks for existing !
Oke, i'm out of fethers to tickle you back in to a good mood, consider this your dose of the day my friend
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dharmasyd, A response to your post below that you wrote to replace the one that evanesced!
Thank you for sharing detail of where you've been, of your service along the way. I'm a few years younger, but sneaking up on you age wise. I look back on the 60's and wonder how that spirit seemed to subside even while it seemed to stay active, then recently re-emerged with new energy of strong promise, yet at the same time so fraught with tensions and accusations. I can build an informed narrative, one that reaches even farther back to generations leading to mine .. but still, at times, it's quite stunning to find where we are now.
I am pleased that you have spoken up to remind that much now being understood has, in all-too-significant manner, been understood before. The reminder in itself can serve — how many times must humanity begin to come to its senses only to "escape" again from that which we each deeply know?
Big sigh! (Big smile). Be well.
Best to all.
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(No 'reply' button to your replacement post but looks like my response fell into line in any case! Thus reference to "post below" is irrelevant!)
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Maggie, I think you are quite adorable.
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DID, Sharp & all…Thanks for the cake, it was delicious. The cherry was good too. I appreciate your responses. Don't know where this will end up on the thread, as we're beyond "reply" magrins.
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Maggie 123…Yes, many times we seem to fall back asleep, to lose the awareness again and again.
There are many people and deep thinkers who believe that what will grow out of our new awareness today, the Occupy movement, political understanding, and more will combine with what we learned in the 60s to bring an even better development. Chris Hedges, whom I deeply admire, is one of those.
As I've said here many times before, we are in an evolutionary process. Taking the "power of the stars," the power of the universe into our hands by splitting the atom, we mandated that we must evolve a consciousness, an ethical morality to match that awesome, godlike physical power.
That is the challenge. We must evolve beyond fighting with each other, beyond war. This is what I believe. Will we make it….? The answer is in the future
Thanks for you kind thoughts and words, Maggie.
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dharmasyd,
I'm impressed with your credentials.
I was joking with arclight as he well knows.
I have a very good idea to whom I am speaking to..
From rambo gogogo…
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dharmasyd,
rambo the macho mambo manbo ???
Yes, I have a very good idea to whom I am speaking to..
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thx dharm
i realised that
peace
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Okay, my dear. I apologize to you for coming on strong. It was my defensiveness.
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Hi Dharma, FWIW I thought Rambojim was referring to Japanese "crawling" to Americans for help. My take on it anyway. A racist (?) sounding comment nonetheless, and not spoken in any spirit of cooperation. The Japanese volunteers are heroes and are unpaid for the risk they're taking. What we need now is international cooperation, not suspicion and race baiting comments.
As for you, your input here is always welcome and so is your point of view. Appreciate your sharing your background and involvement over the years. I respect your point of view. Thank you.
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RE: the "come crawling to us for help" comment, troll alert? Always someone around to try to stir up dissent it seems.
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The U.S. foisted off our crappy, unsafe nuclear technology on the unsuspecting Japanese people (with the help of their government). They have every right to be suspicious of us. Nonetheless they are accepting toward people in the U.S., which shows a lot of strength of character.
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And let's be clear: the governments and those profiting from the nuclear industry are the ones at whom fingers should be pointed, if we must resort to finger pointing.
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Now the racist card comes up. What took you so long ?
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Americans are NOT afraid. The problem lies in the corrupt government, who for the most part do not reflect what average Americans believe in…IMHO.
I think I can safely say that the government of Japan is corrupt as well and does NOT for the most part reflect the beliefs of the Japanese people.
Hell, I think I can safely say that MOST governments of any nation have pulled away from coming close to representing what their people believe and want and strive for.
That being said, I'm a big believer in doing as much as you can for yourself and family where you can, before asking for help.
But the situation at Fukushima seems to be like a stubborn father letting his children starve to death after a half hearted attempt to provide them with food, but being too proud to ask for help.
I don't have a doubt in my mind, that if Japan would ask for some help from the US and other countries, that in a matter of days there would be the help needed right there.
I for one, don't think it is fair to criticize any country for not being right there near ground zero helping with the problem, when the Japanese government refuses to let anyone else help in the first place.
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Thank You CBuck..
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There won't be any US help. To admit 'helping' is to admit there's a problem.
There will be nothing but denial until the last human turns out the lights.
Usque ad finem.
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A privatized nuclear disaster is something a company can not deal with, as we can see.
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The disaster is never private, only the profits.
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Sadtexan,
that needs to be on a t shirt!
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Agreed !
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U.S. government doesn't seem concerned. So, now what?
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Hi TheBigPicture
I have never seen the Lackadaisical of people like
I am seeing now, lacking interest in what is going on.
They all think everything will be just fine. People are happy just playing with their phones and with the nonsense that's on TV.
So much information is withheld. Since there is hardly any information I don't know if the governments are also Lackadaisical or are concerned and doing things we don't know?
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Getting ready for Martial Law is not 'Lackadaisical'.
All the governments of the world are acutely aware of what is going on, and are preparing accordingly.
The most pressing issue is food riots (the worst kind of riots) due to collapsed production and increased prices.
Next will be the global awareness that what they're eating and drinking is radioactive, and their kids are screwed.
After that, well, it'll get worse.
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I hope you guys have stocked up food and water etc
Now that growing veg is officially illegal (S510) in your country… garrrh they have every reason to detain the citizens.
We are screwed… how did we get here?
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Growing veggies has become illegal? When did this happen?
I've got a food supply for only about 3 months, water the same. That's not nearly enough.
Oh, and by the way, if you buy food in bulk here in the US it puts you at risk of being considered a terrorist or anarchist. Lovely ain't it?
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CBuck,
I buy food in bulk. No one yet has considered me a terrorist or anarchist.
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I will try to find the document that was signed under the Obama administration that lists that as a cause to be suspect by the government. I'm not talking about neighbors or grocery store clerks here.
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This document gives the government the right to sieze anything you own to help in the defense of the country. Not exactly what you were talking about.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness
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Here is one of many articles on being a horrible food storer. Oh, the humanity of it all! (end snark)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/feds-label-bulk-buying-of-food-a-potential-terrorist-activity.html
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@Sharp2197
"This document gives the government the right to sieze anything you own to help in the defense of the country."
That could potentially mean everything you own e.g. computer, guns, shovels
US government…control freak!? sorry had to say it. UK is looking upto the big bros
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Yes CBuck, you are correct. It might have been part of the odious report on recognizing "homegrown terrorism" Janet Napolitano issued in 2010, which went out to the military and U.S. law enforcement agencies. That was the one naming political conservatives, veterans, Christians, etc., as "potential terrorists." She redacted the report, but the damage was already done ….
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But this it O/T, so if we continue, we should take it to the Forum area.
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I have it on my other computer, will send later, yes, you are being watched.
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@CBuck,
3 months food supply is good going. If space permitting eg. large cellar etc people have stocked up for a year.
Enter 'growing veg illegal' in Youtube and see what you get!
Mother Faces 93 Days In Jail For Vegetable Garden!
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That is scary…what's going to happen to me? I've got a dozen tomato plants out back. Hmmm…the craziness just keeps multiplying doesn't it?
I'm working towards a year supply of food, I'm hoping there is enough time left to get that far.
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In Salt lake City they have 3 ft of grass between the sidewalk and the street. One apartment complex dug it up and planted a community garden, help weed if you can, but all vegetables are for whoever wants them and needs them. The city forced them to plow it under and replant grass, or face a $10,000 fine. Government moronic behavior is beyond me.
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Well, I live in Salt Lake City…that is ridiculous and I'm surprised I didn't hear about this…but then again I haven't had a television for about 8 months now and I don't miss it one bit.
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I moved from SLC about 2 years ago, This was actually in South Salt Lake, Approx 5th east and near 2100 south. I lived about 8 blocks from there and our condo assoc. was planning to do the same thing because we heard about it. But when we went to look at it, it was dirt and we were told the SSLC had told them the grass was a law.
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Small world huh?
Grass is the law? Hmmm, well technically I think the city owns those strips of grass as annoying as it all is.
I hope the day doesn't come when they try and tell us what we can plant in our yards etc.
By the way, I'm not far from the area you were/are in…technically in Murray.
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I lived at 1833 S. West Temple. We originally were going to take out the grass and put in rock or brick, to save on water bill and lawnmower men, but heard about the garden and thought vegetables would be worth the water. This was probably about 9 or 10 years ago. I live in southern Arizona now and miss grass, hardly anybody has any here.
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I have a brother and sister that live in AZ and they are not fond of the zeroscaping down there…but, water is scarce so you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes I suppose.
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No TV, so you have a chance!
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LOL
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Well, it is beneficial in that when I can get online and I can choose what news I see. I'm not force fed that baloney the mainstream media spews out.
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How about the Japanese people getting off their asses and actually doing something about the problem that their government created instead of doing 0. Overthrow their stinking leaders or are they to frightened,to afraid?
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If the Japanese are so intelligent,why then don't they just design and build their own nuclear death trap? Then, when that blows up at the next 7.9 earth quake who will you blame? The Americans of course…
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What about the governments of:
China,USSR,Iran,North Korea,South America,etc,etc,its always up to the US government.
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The US is the only country right now that can print trillions of dollars at will and pretend it still works.
Now, when China goes on a gold standard, that will certainly change. The US dollar will become worthless, but that's another story.
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Time Is Short,
That's good!
Let the US government print trillions of useless dollars,but keep it in our own country for our own people. How does that sound to you?
If and when China goes on a gold standard,nothing will change.
You are dreaming…
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Rambojim, you seem a bit angry today. I hope all is well with you.
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CBuck,
Some of you're tomatoes would make me feel a lot better… (:
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Unfortunately, this years yield has been a bummer instead of a bumper crop. First time in years it's been this bad…makes me wonder if it's because of the radiation we have in the area now.
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We have 4 tomtato plants about 5' tall – WITH NO FRUIT at ALL.
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and last year's were grossly deformed and tasteless.
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My plants are about the same height…I have only gotten 5 tomatoes all summer, off of a dozen plants. Usually by this time I'd be giving them away to the neighbors and people at work. It's pretty sad, it's my big joy during the summer.
It's interesting, these plants are the biggest plants I've ever had, just hardly any fruit.I wasn't going for size either, didn't do anything different this year than others…the plants just like crazy.
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@CBuck August 18, 2012 at 12:43 am
That's interesting. I'm afraid to say that it just fits the picture of radiation effects. 1) Plants are known to grow bigger with radiation, it happened in 3 miles and happening in Japan 2)less fruits (no bees to pollinate I guess)
Disappointing about the number of toms but it is supposed to be one of the veggies that doesn't absorb radiation apparently. I guess it depends on the amount though.
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My tomatoes are rich with growth, poor in blossom and fruit set. Am growing Romas and lack experience with them so can't compare to previous years when yield was better. We've had really hot days/nights much of summer and that makes a difference I've learned: "Daytime temperatures above 90°F and night temperatures above 70°F result in reduced flowering and fruit set. There is considerable evidence that night temperature is the critical factor in setting tomato fruit, the optimal range being 59° to 68°F. …" http://pubs.ext.vt.edu/426/426-418/426-418.html (Does tomato growing seem a bit off topic? But this temp factor seems good info to share!):)
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Maggie, I originally posted my tomato topic concerning the bad yield and giant plants, wondering if it might be related to increased radiation.
And yes you are right about temps, night time temps here have been fine although hot during the day but we've had plenty of summers like that here in this area. I've just never seen such a dismal tomato crop amongst myself and my friends all in the same year. Just seems strange to me and a little suspicious.
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"Let the US government print trillions of useless dollars, but keep it in our own country for our own people. How does that sound to you?"
The problem is, we do print trillions of dollars for the US, and here is where the absolute majority of it goes – to the .0001%:
"Of the top ten players in global private banking, the business of helping the world’s richest people park their wealth offshore and conceal it from the authorities and escape the rule of law, all ten received substantial injections of government loans and capital during 2008-2012.
In effect, ordinary taxpayers have been subsidizing the world’s largest banks to keep them afloat, even as they actively help wealthy clients slash taxes and commit a host of other crimes."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/21/offshore-wealth-global-economy-tax-havens?newsfeed=true
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=8629
Full report:
http://www.taxjustice.net/cms/front_content.php?idcat=148
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@rambojim and everyone else kicking out fighting words on this post – whoa, ease up, please. Many countries around the world help others. But, the media you're reading tells you different. Just like the media tells you what it wants you to know about Fukushima. The US still occupies Japan, remember? No other foreign nation occupies Japan. The US IS over there advising at this very moment. So is Britain. Japan and China have little love for each other, which is also the case for most on rambojim's list. America spends less than 1% of it's annual gross domestic product on foreign aid and the bulk of that aid is for US military occupation of resource rich nations. Even many of the poorest countries give well above that percentage from a much smaller pot. But, since the American pot is so much bigger than everyone else's, it adds up to a lot of money. So, Americans are told they give more than anyone else. The US currently has a surplus of nuclear scientists and can spare a few. Japan's stated hope is to come out of this the "experts" at nuclear containment and remediation. Accepting help from others will foil those plans.
Could we stop calling people cowards and stay focused instead of getting so ugly? I would really appreciate it. Everyone in their right mind is afraid of nuclear power. Isn't making people better aware and rationally afraid of the dangers of nuclear power the whole point of this website? Thx.
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So very well explained – thank you! This 21stC seems "handed to us" in some way – or rather we built it's conditions ourselves across centuries, even millennia. Sometimes it seems like we (us humans) are being issued a challenge: "You know all that stuff you humans have been spouting off on for centuries and longer – stuff like how dedicated you are to justice, forgiveness, compassion, loving neighbors, serving strangers, loving nature, and "all is one"? … well, prove it."
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Scratch "it's" and replace with "its". I do that all the time!
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dont sweat the small stuff, accept spelling errors and stop nuke.
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Maybe that could read: "Accept spelling errors and stop newk."
I will apologize for that horrid joke, I've been up for almost 24 hours and have to be to work in 6 more.
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arrgh! Really sickening powerpoint created by Asahi Internal Medicine Clinic (Digestive,Rehabilitation, Eyes & Radiology). I wish you guys could read Japanese!
There are places like this which misleads public.
How could they call themselves a 'doctor'?
They must:
1) have obtained their qualification certificate on ebay
2) have bribed someone so they that their exam results were fake
3) love watching people suffer and die (sadistic!)
4) truly believe they are contributing or doing a favour by killing people lawfully
5) All of the above
5th screen from the bottom says:
[Conclusion] (low level radiation exposure is good for you except for fetus)
- Fron now on, the number of cancer patients in Fukushima will DECREASE <– ???!!!^$&^wtf%&£^
- Radioactive food from Fukushima will be sold as premium products (for health value I guess) <– !!wtf!!!
- Fukushima will be the No.1 prefecture which attracts many visitors as a health resort :O
- Future is bright…. (I think Orange might have some say in this!)
- Too much sugar is the cause of ill health <– Lame
http://e.oisyasan.ne.jp/asahi-cl/topics/radi.html
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That's pretty audacious right there. #1 health resort? Isn't the population dropping like flies?
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Cancer cases will drop, because the exposed population will have already died from heart damage.
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…and then pick back up again…
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Dear GlowInTheDark,
Thank you. Absolute, impudent madness at a time when persons need truth. I heard Japanese buy Fukushima products, then throw them away -true?
Take Care,
Aloha.
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hi andagi
I think it depends on the person. Some non-fukushima people receives fruits & veg from neighbours etc and if they are aware of radiation poisoning, they will graciously accept it so that they won't upset the neighbour's kind gesture but they throw it away, can't risk the family's health. It's the thought that matters.
There is lot to learn from the disasters…if you are open to that kind of thing.
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Dear GlowInTheDark,
Thank you. I'm totally open. These gestures keep relationships and a sense of community going -right? If so, I'm all for that!
Aloha.
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Please, please: A nuclear accident anywhere is a nuclear accident everywhere. Even normally operating nuclear reactor has global effects cumulatively till the end of times.
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Yes of course. And where will spend the appropriate amount of money for the rescue, the effects may be less severe.
Gorbachev once said, "the nail in the coffin of the SOVIET UNION was Czernobyl and its financial consequences.
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let me check myself here
the usa can invade a country at will
it can also reach out and use its own laws to grab citizens of other countries for breaking USA laws even if it isnt acrime in the country concerned
it can send a rocket to mars
it has tens of bases in japan and wants more
it is buying food from japan and selling it to canada under the guise of NAFTA, allowing the canadians to say that food imports from japan are reduced.
it is the nuclear weapon protector of japan
it set up the japanese political constitution after the war
its corporations and universities work hand in hand with the japanese
its PR companies are heading the "recovery of fukushima" with little evacuation.
the usa and european nuclear corporations have worked hand in hand to cover up the extent of the contamination and its effects on the Fukushima population
the usa is the largest user of depleted uranium weaponary and its likely that japan is involved with this manufacturing process not to mention other military development
i think the usa has been co-ordinating the whole respose since last april when the warnings for pregnant women and children in the usa and europe went out
Radiation risks from Fukushima 'no longer negligible'
"…The risks related to prolonged contamination among vulnerable groups of the population can no longer be considered "negligible" and it is now necessary to avoid "risky behaviour," CRIIRAD claimed.
cont..
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"…However, the institute underlines that there is absolutely no need to lock oneself indoors or take iodine tablets.
CRIIRAD says its information note is not limited to the situation in France and is applicable to other European countries, as the level of air contamination is currently the same in Belgium, Germany, Italy and Switzerland, for instance.
Data for the west coast of the United States, which received the Fukushima radioactive fallout 6-10 days before France, reveals that levels of radioactive iodine-131 concentration are 8-10 times higher there, the institute says.
Rain water and tap water
According to CRIIRAD, a huge proportion of the inquiries it has received concern the risks associated with rainwater and drinking tap water.
The institute stresses that there is no risk whatsoever, even for children, of standing in the rain without protection. But consumption of rainwater as a primary source of drinking water should be avoided, particularly among children, it said.
As for tap water, underground catchments or large rivers should not present any problem. But the institute suggests that the situation of water from reservoirs that collect rainwater from one or more watersheds, such as hillside lakes, should be examined more closely.
As for watering one's garden with collected rainwater, CRIIRAD advises watering only the earth and not the leaves of vegetables, as absorption is faster and more significant on leaf surfaces than through roots…
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Food chain
Spinach, salads, cabbage and other vegetables with large surface areas are among those food products that are particularly sensitive to iodine-131 contamination, if they are cultivated outside and exposed to rainwater. Washing vegetables does not help, as iodine-131 is quickly metabolised by the plants, CRIIRAD notes.
Fresh milk and creamy cheeses, as well as meat from cattle that have been outside eating grass, are categorised as foods that may have been indirectly contaminated and must also be monitored. Contamination of milk and cheese from goats and sheep may be of a greater magnitude than that of produce from cow…"
http://www.euractiv.com/health/radiation-risks-fukushima-longer-news-503947
it was worse as you moved north and this reading was done in the south of france.. it was 10 times worse in the usa..
unlike the warnings and destruction of contaminated foods after chernobyl, this warning was not given out?
who co-ordinated the deception? was it really japan telling everyone around the world what to do? only a small number of countries could have that power..
and finally japan is broke and its getting worse.. the usa owns japan..
japan is a satellite of the usa, like hawaii, like iraq, soon like iran
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Arclight..here is a disgusting fact you might not know. You said there was "destruction of contaminated foods after Chernobyl". Well guess what..that is not the totally true…Europe shipped their Chernobyl contaminated food off to Africa and other impoverished countries and called it aid !!! SICK SICK SICK !!!
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All this is making it really hard not to lose faith in humanity in general.
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These are the things that create atheists.
These are trying times for everyone.
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Atheists don't get "created" , they evolve..:)
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Dear CBuck,
'All this is making it really hard not to lose faith in humanity in general.'
I hope you don't. Every day people do so many great things. There is so much good in life. Even coming here every day (as challenging as it can be as we share and learn difficult truths), our family of posters, readers and Admin are ultimately trying to help the world.
Keep posting. I like your perspective.
I get down too, but ultimately can't live with my head in the sand. All of this insanity and powerlessness seems to enhance my appreciation of the good things, relationships and time I have.
I hope this helps
Aloha.
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Thank you. It does help. I know there is good in the world, I see it everyday as well.
What gets me down is not my own demise from all of this, but what will happen to my 2 children and my 2 month old grandson. I won't be around forever to try and protect them. Not that I'm wonder woman, but I do everything I can to ensure them and their futures.
Problem is, there doesn't seem to be much of a future and I hate the thoughts of them suffering.
Just 3 more people among billions in the future suffering and dying slowly.
I guess all we can do is look for and create as much good and happiness as we can while there is still time.
Acceptance of reality is a difficult thing. Acceptance of my children's and grandchild's reality is far more difficult.
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Dear CBuck,
It's clear these persons are very lucky to have you as their mum/grandmum. You are brave and incredibly responsible for being here on ENENews. You're among friends. We all have families and share the same issues.
Perhaps, continuing to love (even more deeply) persons dear to us and our own precious lives, fuels and empowers our sense of resolve against the malevolence being illuminated here.
Take good care
Aloha.
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You are spot on. And good advice is a shame to waste, so I will definitely take that to heart.
Thank you Andagi.
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Elegantly said, and also taking pitchforks to the lying thieving bastards that promote death for their own profit, would be pretty satisfying also.
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Yes, and Japan is now doing that…call it aid.
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Radiation Network reports 4 monitoring stations at this moment with radiation levels above 50cpm. http://radiationnetwork.com/
Since July, there have routinely been 3-6 reporting stations above 50cpm. Last year, reports of 50cpm were rare at this time of year. 100cpm is considered Alert Level. All of the US has now been contaminated, and it is clearly getting worse by the day. End nuclear power. Utilities must decommission all nukes now. Peace.
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"risky behaviour" = drinking milk, eating spinach, and doing intensive outdoor exercise (not to mention standing or walking in the rain)
Only in the nuclear age could these activities become "risky" and unhealthy. What a wonderful world they have given us.
By the way, above you wrote: "the usa is the largest user of depleted uranium weaponary and its likely that japan is involved with this manufacturing process not to mention other military development." I have never heard anything about Japan's potential connection to the depleted uranium weapons industry. Do you have any references to articles discussing it?
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Dear Iam335,
"risky behaviour" = drinking milk, eating spinach, and doing intensive outdoor exercise (not to mention standing or walking in the rain)
Need to change 'andagi' ti IamDoomed!
-it's true, I guess.
Aloha.
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I don't have links to this issue, either, but, it is common knowledge that Japan takes Britain's used plutonium using it as MOX fuel, which, of course, was Reactor 3 at Fukushima. And, if i remember right, the US takes depleted uranium from Europe to add to our own for weapons manufacture.
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Vic, not quite right,it was not Japan taking Britain's used plutonium, England reprocessed Japan's used nuclear fuel, France did too.. England got tired of shipping it around on trains.. made Japan take delivery of reprocessed fuel..Japan retrofitted existing reactors to run with this reprocessed fuel aka mox.. no doubt some of the "problem" fuel that had "quality" issues and was partially returned.. and is documented in the World nuclear site..
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/default.aspx?id=458&terms=japan
apparently big $$$ in reprocessing spent fuel to make a more dangerous dastardly mix.. ever heard of Savannah River?
http://www.em.doe.gov/bemr/bemrsites/sars.aspx
Check out the "Congressional Request" kinda interesting..
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And the U.S. burns it as part of disposal of "low level" nuclear waste. And stores the "high level" waste. Currently there's not supposed to be reprocessing done in the U.S.
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"I have never heard anything about Japan's potential connection to the depleted uranium weapons industry. Do you have any references to articles discussing it?"
The Japanese do have at least 10,000 tons of DU in inventory:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
While it was probably made at one of these US facilities:
http://daisyluther.blogspot.com/2012/04/radioactive-danger-its-not-just-coming.html
Quite a disturbing map.
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@Time Is Short
You know I would post something about the DU you have questioned but how can I prove that it is true? No one will ever know, it's not as if the government is gonna say, "horray! We've got stash of DU bombs, come and have a look!!" So I won't post the information. But there are some information floating… that much I can say.
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@Time Is Short
I can say this much!!
Apparently, there is a group called "Osaka group against Mihama, Ooi, Takahama NPP" (美浜・大飯・高浜原発に反対する大阪の会) and Green Action attended a meeting with Kansai Electric (KE) and KE said that they have handed over DU for free to USEC but since their connection ceased they don't know if USEC made DU bombs with it or not. So there is at least one of the connections.
The groups asked why they handed over for free and KE answered because it's unwanted *~groan~*
On the other hand, USEC denies that they've used DU from Japan to make weapon out of it and they are sure it is only used for peaceful purposes.
http://civilesociety.jugem.jp/?eid=3266
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Maybe I should have used the proper term – DU munitions. The Japanese are listed to have 10,000 tons of DU munitions. DU is just depleted uranium. It's used in not only munitions, such as anti-tank and larger rounds, but also plates used to cover tanks and carriers, as it offers superior protection from enemy penetration.
Just imagine spending hundreds of hours in a tank completely surrounded by depleted uranium plates. Do tankers wear dosimeters? No.
The soldiers of the world have no idea of the consequences of what they are told to use. But their commanders do . . .
All NPPs produce depleted uranium. It's just left over fuel rod material that's spent. Lots to go around.
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Thank you. I've been trying to find this map again for months.
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You are almost correct. We have an international treaty that requires us to invade and take over if any non-nuclear state cannot prevent any nuclear materials from a nuclear weapon state from causing harm. (paraphrasing non-proliferation treaty)
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@GlowInTheDark
August 17, 2012 at 6:39 am
The belief in the truth of a law increases with the number of favourable instances of the law. This is a basic science principle.
The number of favourable instances of the so called low level radiation being unsafe so as to result in illth and filth and death is overwhelming. See for example the citings in ECRR 2003/2010 and confirmed by my own analysis of hard Indian data of prenuclear era compared with nuclear era.Also see Forum: Effects of Low Level Radiation,enenews.com. This is unequivocal. The concerned people who are spreading radiation in the world as in this case must be tried for crimes against all life for all time. NOW!See http://deathdealersnukes.blogspot.com/
Also see http://isisunveiledhenp.blogspot.in/
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Hi Rama,
Thanks for the links. It is a big crime
How can this kind of nonsense go on!? I guess, when things are bad, you will see the true colour of people.
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@GlowInTheDark
August 17, 2012 at 7:53 am
Piercing comments!
They saw the true colour of the fascists the Nazis and fought them to victory. But die haben den falschen Schwine gschlachtet.The cold war came and went.Hydrogen bombs exploded in the atmosphere by the tens of hundreds. How many millions of children died in the world because of the true colour of the cold warriors! Then the arch enemies became sufficiently tamed that they had cups of tea in front of their children and exchanged pleasantries and a little politico. With that however the nukes had continued into Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushame. And there is still no sign of surrender to the truth.The wicked have concluded a nuke deal to litter India with thousands of megawatts of nukes.The other party the Russians are supplying nuke litter to India and the French as well may litter India with their powerless lethal poison spewers the EPRs. ECRR 2003 put the figure at 65 million who died due to nuclear activities in the nuclear era. The infant mortality count in India alone according to my analysis is around 23 million from 1945 to 1999( http://deathdealersnukes.blogspot.com/ )
Hope with life still in existence, colourful willing peace will still be dynamically achieved. Action!
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hi Rama,
I am worreid for Indian people because the country is separated into wealthy/educated vs poor/uninformed that yes they will take any old rubbish to turn into gold eg old computer parts to extract gold, they bought contaminated aluminium from Russia, now Japan is selling nuclear to India and the country is contaminated with Co60.
We have many Indian people lives in the UK so naturally there are lots of Indian products as well as spices, curry is supposed to be the nation's favourite food. So the contamination just circulate around the world via different routes. I am concerned about the future of nuclear situation in India as well as China very much.
I think, to convince people in India that nuclear is really bad move, we must spread the facts to asians in the UK and US so that they will inform the facts to the relatives in India, Pakistan. I have a feeling they are less inclinde to accept the facts from outsiders.
I think you are the only asian, that I have come across, keeping up with the nuclear problem. I guess India is no different, many people are just interested in making money or playing games?
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@GlowInTheDark
August 17, 2012 at 8:55 am
What a giant sledgehammer effect producing advice. Thanks. I do hope that the Love and Rayleigh waves generated by the surge waves will travel via the Asians to the rels in India and Pak and Srilanka and Nepal…Somehow it must reach. I am sad to note that I am the lone Indian with this trait!
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"I am sad to note that I am the lone Indian with this trait!"
You don't have to lecture anyone with the nuclear physics. There will be time that you have to explain to people why the way you make your choices and I just say "it's because it is radioactive." That's all there is. I am expressing my choice and people may wonder, may be they don't.
Watch it grow
All the best!
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Nuclear means "100 new Bhopals, at 2043 immediate deaths per Bhopal" each year, thank you for all the work that you do, Ramaswami Kumar. I am so happy that you understand Japanese, GlowInTheDark, thank you for being here, too!
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@NoNukes
August 17, 2012 at 8:59 am
How come you say understand Japanese?
I have the faintest picture of it!
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@NoNukes
August 17, 2012 at 8:59 am
How come you say I understand Japanese?
I have the faintest picture of it! However I have done a detailed energy audit of the Japanese Nuclear Power Programme and it is similar to the one I did for the USA's.
See the USA audit at
http://energyauditofnuclearfuelcycles.blogspot.in/
Sorry if I have given you a false picture!
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Great article, Ramaswami Kumar.
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@Ramaswami Kumar
August 17, 2012 at 8:24 am
Sorry for the Churchill misstatement. The correct statement appears as:
„Wir haben das falsche Schwein geschlachtet!“ sagte Winston Churchill…
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It is not just India – " the country is separated into wealthy/educated vs poor/uninformed"—ADD the USA and other major countries to this comment! While most major nations do not have the poverty..its not to say they are informed. Or maybe the best comment is to say DISINFORMED..on purpose.
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@Gamekokko tweeted that Fukushima is in such bad state that building a concrete sarcophagus may not even be possible.
(ﾉﾟοﾟ)ﾉ ｵｵｵｵｫｫｫｫｫｫ-
If anyone wants to follow him, he speaks English.
http://twitter.com/Gamekokko/status/236113609044922368
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Now, that may very, very well be true, which means it would then be as it is now with the hottest spots contained for short periods of time, fires, flare ups, earthquakes and entropy toppling more structures, continued leaks…and eventually only in the media when something dramatic happens.
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"The commission meeting with the U.S. was attended by officials from several Japanese governmental departments including the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry. Participants from the U.S. included officials from the Department of Energy, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Department of Defense. The participants exchanged their views on a wide range of themes such as the independence of regulatory systems, decommissioning and decontamination of Fukushima I, research and development, nuclear nonproliferation and nuclear security (measures against nuclear terrorism)".
The DOD,the DOE and the NRC..are already there.
Maybe..they can stand around pressuring each other or something.
http://enenews.com/just-in-japan-and-us-now-working-together-to-decommission-fukushima-daiichi-first-meeting-was-last-week
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Thx for the post heart of the Rose. The biggest obstacle is probably the territoriality issue of who owns what, who does what, who gets credit, who pays? That's going on in one room and is the deal breaker. In the other room are the engineers, physicists and technicians sharing information and coming up with a group plan they all like and will have the greatest chance of being effective, then, the other group in the other room will send someone over and say that the plan is too industrious or can't be agreed on so design something less effective and smaller, and the engineers will do this, unhappily, and then send it over to the other group- the deciders in the other room – and…
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Heart, I prefer to feel exuberant and vivid but am less hopeful now than I have ever been in my life. Thank you all for the information provided, the mainstream offers zip. Don't know how much pressure from standing.
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“Fukushima No. 1 is not just an accident for Japanese people, but for you people (around the world) as well,” he said.
Yes, but it did happen in your front yard. The Japanese Government should, in a very public forum, request help from all comers. Once they tell everyone what has actualy happened, people could put great pressure on governments to act. All governments.
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Which is why few nuclear countries, including Japan itself, would want Japan to make such an announcement. I think that may be completely up to us to do, StPaulScout.
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With the amount of news-blackout being the official policy, or so it does at least seem, there will never be enough informed people to move inertia…….
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It will always be about what we do for ourselves. We can try to help inform others, but at the end of the day, it's how we take care of ourselves and those we are responsible for.
Yes, the mountain to move is great.
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