Fukushima radiation found in Hawaii fish — Almost half contain fallout from Japan nuclear disaster

Published: November 8th, 2017 at 7:47 am ET


University of Hawaii at Mānoa, 2017:

In the Wake of Fukushima: Radiocesium Inventories of Selected North Pacific Fish

Thirteen commonly consumed types of fish caught in the North Pacific and locally available in Hawaii were analyzed using gamma spectroscopy to measure Fukushima-derived and historic 134 Cs and 137 Cs isotopes. All fish samples had detectable 137 Cs above 95% Confidence Intervals. Three out of the thirteen samples had 134 Cs, an isotope indicative of Fukushima releases, detected above 95% Confidence Intervals. The highest 134 Cs and 137 Cs concentration in the examined species was in ahi tuna carrying 0.10±0.04 Bq/kg and 0.62±0.05 Bq/kg, respectively. Other samples with 134 Cs activities found above their 2-sigma uncertainty were albacore tuna and swordfish…

[W]hile the plume has not necessarily reached the Hawaiian Islands, it did travel within established fishing grounds across major migratory paths northeast of the islands…

Five samples showed the Fukushima tracer 134Cs, present above critical levels and at the 68% confidence interval (CI at 1-sigma uncertainty) but only three of those fish exhibited activities above the range of their 2 sigma uncertainty representing 95% CI…

Five samples showed evidence of Fukushima-derived 134Cs…

This study suggests that about 40% of fish tested here and are consumed on the islands of Hawai’i were recently exposed to the path of the Fukushima-derived radiocesium plume in the North Pacific Gyre…

Regular sampling of species that show signs of Fukushima-derived radiocesium may better inform us about the variability and spatial distribution of the released radiocesium isotopes.

See also: Senior Scientist on HBO: I’d worry about swimming in Hawaii’s ocean starting in 2015 due to Fukushima plume (VIDEO)

Published: November 8th, 2017 at 7:47 am ET


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138 comments to Fukushima radiation found in Hawaii fish — Almost half contain fallout from Japan nuclear disaster

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Anyone who consumes any seafood form the Pacific Ocean, or seafood of unknown origin, is taking an unacceptable risk of developing fatal cancers.
    It’s not just the mercury and heavy metals, anymore.
    It’s Fukushima Cesium.

    Hell, I won’t even feed fish to my cat!

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Fukushima radiation contaminates West Coast fish — “Fears the country’s food chain is polluted… a terrifying discovery” — Scientist: “It appears plume has spread throughout vast area from Alaska to California” — CBS: Bulk of radiation has yet to make it’s way across Pacific (VIDEO)
      Published: January 10th, 2017

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        Fresh And Saltwater Fish Near And Far From Fukushima Found To Be Contaminated With Man Made Heavy Metal Poisonous Radiation, Dr. Gordon Edwards Explains Finding Radioactive Cesium

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          Fukushima Pacific Ocean Heavy Metal Radioactive Plutonium; How It Bioconcentrates In Mussels, Sea Stars, Chitons, Clams, Oysters, Fish; Arnie Gunderson On Hot Particle Radiation And Bioaccumulation


          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            I think I posted the wrong link. Here is the correct link, I hope:

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            “The best Sun JamesBond Dec 11, 2016 12:00 AM

            "I notice that no-one is mentioning that
            Fulkushima reactors are MOX fuel
            reactors with Plutonium rich fuel rods.

            "Cesium-134, 2 year half life (so less than one in eight atoms left),

            "Strontium-90, 28.8 year half life (so mostly still around),

            Plutonium- the longest-lived isotopes are plutonium-244, with a half-life

            "of 80.8 million years, plutonium-242, with a half-life of 373,300 years,

            "and plutonium-239, with a half-life of 24,110 years.

            "All of the remaining radioactive isotopes have half-lives that are less than 7,000 years.

            "One atom of Plutonium introduced into the airways of test
            animals (beagle puppies) was 100% fatal within 12 months.”

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              disinformation Anne; "One atom of Plutonium introduced into the airways of test animals was 100% fatal "

              Please dont do that kind of stuff

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                February 15, 2012 at 2:31 am
                144 Beagles have already died, proving that plutonium was 100% lethal when inhaled. That is how the world will be receiving the gift of plutonium from FUKU.


                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  The Human Plutonium Injection Experiments


                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    New element MORE radioactive than deadly plutonium created by Japanese has no 'known use'
                    “Ununtrium is more radioactive and unstable than Plutonium
                    “Alarmingly, man-made Ununtrium, now recognised as the 113th element on the periodic table, as it is currently called, could potentially be used to make nuclear warheads more devastating than those produced with plutonium such as the implosion-type fission bomb exploded over the Japanese city of Nagasaki at the end of WWII in 1945 which killed around 200,000 people.

                    “…Ununtrium is so unstable and radioactive that only minuscule amounts of it have been observed and created, so little is yet known about its properties.

                    “If it were put to use, it is likely it could only be within the nuclear power or even weapons industries.

                    “Even respected scientists have raised the question of why it, and other synthetic heavy metals, are being made.

                    “In a YouTube video, made before the official recognition, Sir Martin Poliakoff, Research Professor in Chemistry at the University of Nottingham, said: ‘You might actually ask why should anyone want to make a few atoms of these artificial elements…’….”

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      How much plutonium does it take
                      to overdose a person?
                      0.1 micrograms can overdose one civilian

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      “During a classified speech given in ‘Building X’ on a Sunday afternoon in October 1946, [Dr. Stafford] Warren sketched the apocalypse he feared would come. ‘Soon the number of bombs which will have been let off will have made available so much radioactivity that it will seriously damage our food supplies and make serious changes in our world economy. Tis is not a figment of the imagination at all.’ To the security-cleared audience, he added the following warning:

                      “‘You need only to absorb a few micrograms of plutonium and other long-life fission materials, and then know that you are going to develop a progressive anemia or a tumor in from 5 to 15 years. This is an insidious hazard and an insidious lethal effect hard to guard against. It has a tremendous morale-destroying effect. Would you want to live tin an area which was contaminated with something that was all around you which you couldn’t eliminate and which would get on your clothes, in your house, in the water, in the milk, and all the food?’…”
                      Eileen Welsome. The Plutonium Files: America’s Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold War (1999), p. 178-79.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      like I said, thats disinfo Anne and you shouldnt have posted it "One atom of Plutonium introduced into the airways of test animals was 100% fatal "

                      Please dont add that in your wallpaper, however well meaning. An apology wouldn't hurt either

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      How do you know it isn't true. I just copied one person's comment which included his statement that there are many radionuclides very dangerous where there is fallout.

                      And I have now posted scientific links to show how tiny the plutonium is to be lethal. Why do you keep harping on something?

                      Why should I apologize for posting one person's opinion? If I quote from Dr. Caldecott, it only takes ONE ATOM of plutonium to damage the DNA of one cell to cause cancer.

                      e a person?
                      0.1 micrograms can overdose one civilian

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      “…As Caldicott pointed out repeatedly, there is no safe level of plutonium for the living—even one atom can cause cancer….”

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Anne is a PhD but claims simultaneously that one atom of plutonium is 100% fatal when breathed by dogs but that 0.1 micrograms is a lethal dose.

                      She should be able to calculate that there are;

                      247,000,000,000,000 atoms of plutonium in 0.1 micrograms,

                      making her first assertion off by hundreds of trillions of times. This disinfo is so easily debunked it makes the anti nuke crowd look like morons and is therefor to be guarded against. It makes us look bad, it makes her look bad…which is not so bad unless we want to have a positive impact on shutting down the nuke cartel

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      I have shown that science recognizes one errant cell cant make cancer. I did a long thread just recently on this. The implication is important; it shows the premise of the ICRP dosimetry is flawed at its base. It shows that the metabolic damage from low level fallout is more important than DNA hits. This is a very important point.

                      Low level fallout doesnt increase your chances of being sick…it simply makes everything sicker to some degree with acute disease manifesting at some point in life.

                      The metabolic morbidity factor of fallout is not recognized by nuke science or industry, despite the abundance of proofs in scientific literature. There is a bit of good news too; by correcting metabolic damage with diet, herbs, and vitamins, we can greatly reduce the health impact of low level fallout. This is shown and explained by those working with Chernobyl victims

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Ph.D's and scientists have to consider what everyone says on a particular topic.

                      I claimed nothing myself but simply quoted the experts.

                      Your ad hominem attack shows you know nothing about what it takes to receive a Ph.D.

                      If you want to cricize Dr. Caldecott and other experts, have at it.

                      But I will continue to offer quotes with links.

                      Where is your mathematical caculation of how many ataoms are in .1 micrograms of plutonium? And where are your links?

                      Even so, you haven't proven that one atom of plutonium can't cause cancer.

                      I will quote another expert that says that health is effected on the ATOMIC LEVEL.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      The Implications of The Massive Contamination of Japan With Radioactive Cesium
                      Steven Starr
                      “Less than two grams of Cesium-137, a piece smaller than an American dime, if made into microparticles and evenly distributed as a radioactive gas over an area of one square mile, will turn that square mile into an uninhabitable radioactive exclusion zone. Central Park in New York City can be made uninhabitable by 2 grams of microparticles of Cesium-137. Hard to believe, isn’t it?

                      “Remember, these nuclear poisons are lethal at the atomic level. There are as many atoms in one gram of Cesium-137 as there are grains of sand in all the beaches of the world. That’s 1021 atoms—10 to the 21st power. 1480 trillion of them or 1.48 times 10 to the 12th power are disintegrating every second, releasing invisible nuclear energy. So this works out to about one and a half million disintegrations per second per square meter. We can see how this works then….”

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      I just gave a long thread on how cesium affects animals on the atomic level the other week. Did you read it?

                      Caldicott didnt say one atom of plutonium was lethal. You quoted some fool in the comment section and now call them an expert. When pointed out, you never admit an error, which is typical. Instead you try vainly to argue the point.

                      Youre the PhD

                      convert 0.100 µg of plutonium (chemical element) to atoms

                      divide the number of grams by the molar mass. The result is the number of moles in your element

                      The mole is represented by Avogadro’s number, which is 6.022×1023 atoms or molecules per mol

                      2.468×10^14 atoms

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      In your long wallpaper exercise, why dont you quote me? I published it here the other week. How many atoms per cell of Cs137 is toxic and why

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      “The fission of one atom of Pu-239 generates 207.1 MeV = 3.318 × 10−11 J, i.e. 19.98 TJ/mol = 83.61 TJ/kg,[3] or about 23,222,915 kilowatt hours/kg.”

                      Sorry for the duplicate. This posted in the wrong place in the thread.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      I quoted the encyclopedia, and I've quoted Dr. Caldecott verbatim before and will find the quote again. I think it is in "Nuclear Energy Is Not the Answer"

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      “…Long-lived radionuclides, such as cesium-137, are something new to us as a species. They did not exist on Earth, in any appreciable quantities, during the entire evolution of complex life. Although they are invisible to our senses, they are millions of times more poisonous than most of the common poisons we are familiar with. They cause cancer, leukemia, genetic mutations, birth defects, malformations and abortions at concentrations almost below human recognition and comprehension. They are lethal at the atomic or molecular level….”
                      —Chiho Kaneko, “Demystifying Nuclear Power: Nuclear IS Atomic,
                      Fairewinds Energy Education, 18 Oct 2015

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      geepers, you insist that ONE ATOM of plutonium is 100% fatal to dogs when inhaled?

                      How much wallpaper will you generate to prove, unsuccessfully, that you were correct?

                      I can tell you right now, your assertion is hogwash, bunkum, balderdash, twaddle. You are full of malarkey, drivel and tripe. Your argument is just flummery, claptrap, baloney.

                      A simple 'ooops' would have saved you, but noooooooo, you have to pump out reverse speak, mumbo jumbo, the rigmarole. And all this after you said you were not going to keep posting because of tens of thousands of attacks. What gives?

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      NUCLEAR MADNESS
                      WHAT YOU CAN DO
                      BY HELEN CALDICOTT

                      "…Whether natural or man-made, all radiation is dangerous. There is no "safe" amount of radioactive material or dose of radiation.

                      "'Why? Because by virtue of the nature of the biological damage done by radiation, it takes only one radioactive atom, one cell, and one gene to initiate the cancer or mutation cycle. Any expo¬sure at all, therefore, constitutes a serious gamble with the mechanisms of life.'…"


                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      All I did is quote what other people have written. Please argue with the authors. All you have to do is publish your vies in a peer-reviewed scientific journal.

                      Why do you discount what experts have written? What is your motivation?

                    • or-well

                      The Win to Code for using "malarkey" !

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      I refute this quote supposedly from Caldicott
                      " it takes only one radioactive atom, one cell, and one gene to initiate the cancer or mutation cycle."

                      A key to fighting the false precepts of nuclear health science is that low level fallout, not background radiation, causes metabolic damage, a cascade of metabolic changes that leads to many different diseases.

                      "The Hallmarks of Cancer" is a seminal peer-reviewed article published in the journal Cell in January 2000 by the cancer researchers Douglas Hanahan and Robert Weinberg.

                      The authors believe that the complexity of cancer can be reduced to six underlying principles that govern the transformation of normal cells to cancer cells."

                      These six features are all related to information transfer, which is a differentiating quality between fallout and background radiation. I have to double check, but it appears even one atom per cell of fallout is enough to initiate these metabolic changes.

                      "The traits that the authors highlight in the paper are (1) Cancer cells stimulate their own growth (self-sufficiency in growth signals); (2) They resist inhibitory signals that might otherwise stop their growth (insensitivity to anti-growth signals); (3) They resist their programmed cell death (evading apoptosis); (4) They can multiply indefinitely (5) They stimulate the growth of blood vessels to supply nutrients to tumors; (6) They invade local tissue and spread to distant sites."

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                “The fission of one atom of Pu-239 generates 207.1 MeV = 3.318 × 10−11 J, i.e. 19.98 TJ/mol = 83.61 TJ/kg,[3] or about 23,222,915 kilowatt hours/kg.”

                • danger kitty danger kitty

                  Anne, your pathetic excuse is "All I did is quote what other people have written."
                  And you did it for 'balance, right?
                  Are you gonna quote that idiot Wade Allison for 'balance' too?
                  We don't need false balance; we need good information. Code provides that. You…do not.
                  You are a fukuing disgrace & a fraud. I fully realize you will respond with wallpaper diarrhea but i will not engage further. Theres no stopping your shitstorm of intellectual masturbation. Just making sure you're tagged for all to see.
                  WITCH side are you on, idiot?

                  • or-well

                    I just wish someone/anyone had supported my original call for banning the fundy grundy.
                    Not that hands-in-pockets Admin would have done bugger-all, but…
                    fuck it – the place is a joke anyway.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      a South African drunk, a nine foot tranny, and a dog named Hippie walk into a bar. The bartender says "what, is this some kind of joke?"

                    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

                      Ah come on, I love saying this. Because most people don't get it.

                      Mr Fantastic, Dr Who, and Professor X enter a bar. Miss What, Student How and Dropout Why exit a bar, because they tried to question an inebriated lunatic. Nobody remembered when or where.

                    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

                      As Jim Lahey would say "That's one of my cleaner jokes…Supplies!"

                    • m a x l i


                    • m a x l i


                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    danger kitty, attack 10,532.

                    " 4) Not insulting, rude or hateful – No personal attacks"

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    I didn't quote these studies for balance at all. I quoted them to prove that there is no radiation hormesis, and to draw attention to the results of scientists that all the pro-nuke shills attack all the time.

                    The energy of a single atom of plutonium is enough to cause double strand breakage in one cell of the body that will induce cancer and mutations.

                    Even the tiniest radioactive particle created by the nuclear fuel cycle is incompatible with life and all nuclear reactors and weapons should banned worldwide. This is especially true of plutonium, curium, and all the actinides. The creation of artificial radioactive isotopes destroys the possibility of any life on the earth forever.



                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      Eiichiro Ochiai:

                      “…They are unaware of or ignoring the fact that radiation coming from the unavoidable byproducts of the nuclear power operation is indeed incompatible with living organisms.
                      “This fact, i.e., INCOMPATIBILITY OF RADIATION WITH LIFE, seems to be recognized by the nuclear industry. Hence, the nuclear industry and its associates (termed often “nuclear mafia”) are desperately trying to cover up the evil health effects of radiation. They have tried, and have so far been able to cover them up relatively successfully. This has been possible, only because the evil effects are basically subtle, not felt by the person affected, and have so far been confined to relatively small areas and few people (compared with the vast area of the entire earth and the majority of the human race).

                      “In the following short article we would like to show why radiation is incompatible with life, and hence that the 'nuclear' power reactors as well as weapons which produce radioactive material should not be on the earth….”

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      I find this untrue; "The energy of a single atom of plutonium is enough to cause double strand breakage in one cell of the body that will induce cancer and mutations."

                      There are an estimated 10 double strand breaks per cell per day due to natural metabolic stresses and background radiation


                      Double strand breaks are an important measure or result of radiation damage. But a lethal dose of 0.1 micrograms of plutonium contains some 250 trillion atoms. Thats about six atoms per cell on average. The result is radiation sickness and death due to major metabolic dysfunction and death of cells. The victim is dead before they see cancer.

                      In low level fallout exposure, again there is a metabolic effect and the result is not a random chance of cancer from a single DNA double strand break but a metabolic morbidity factor that may manifest as clinical disease

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      From your link:

                      “NHEJ is critical not only for the repair of pathologic DSBs as in chromosomal translocations, but also for the repair of physiologic DSBs created during V(D)J recombination and class switch recombination….

                      “Therefore, patients lacking normal NHEJ are not only sensitive to ionizing radiation, but also severely immunodeficient.”

                      Perhaps nuclear radiation destroys NHEJ, Nonhomologous DNA end joining

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      the other week I found papers for several metabolic changes from radiation, including the change of cells to a more sugar loving metabolism (shift from an oxidative to glycolytic phenotype. glycolysis is frequently linked to cancer cell metabolism) and makes them into meat glue factories (aberrant expression of the proinflammatory protein transglutaminase-2 which is an important regulator of the Warburg effect, an important factor in tumorogenesis)

                      If you want to try and research your theory that radiation messes up the DNA double strand break repair machinery, what we are ideally looking for is something radionuclide specific. If it were me, I would start with the Ku-70 and Ku-80 proteins and see if the radiation cancer treatment establishment finds they can disable them with some kinds of radiation.

    • papacares papacares

      correct PUN, have been noticing the commercial fishermen are beginning to catch on (pun intended) as there are many boats now for sale. where once only the boat was for sale the commercials are now also selling their permits. This is the first sign of an industry in the early stage of disaster mode. expect crab to be good for at least this year because there is a lot of dead stuff down there for them to feed on yet this could be the last good year for that industry. sadly there just are no fish out there and what little amount of fish are returning end up getting devastated by the starving predatory sharks, orcas, seals and sea lions awaiting them at the mouth of the rivers as they return

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Strontium and Plutonium found in fish:

      Radiological dose rates to marine fish from the Fukushima Daiichi accident: the first three
      years across the North Pacific
      Environ. Sci. Technol., 2015, 49 (3), pp 1277–1285
      DOI: 10.1021/es505064d
      Publication Date (Web): December 22, 2014

      See Table 5, p. S14

    • theworldisalie theworldisalie

      They don't just contain the radio cesium twins, it's a whole host of isotopes….

      Don't eat out of the Pacific ocean, it's beyond foolish.

    • Jebus Jebus

      A repost that this could be a topic all alone.

      The Ecosystem is Breaking Down


      The fish are all right and I don't see any dead sea stars…

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Why do Child Leukemia Rates go up near Nuclear Reactors & Power line? Chris Busby solves it – NH #333

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      "UK's Prof. Chris Busby is about to publish peer-reviewed paper making the connection between increased leukemia risk in children and living near power lines and/or nuclear reactors – it's all the same radioactive particles."

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      "Numnutz of the Week (For Nuclear Boneheadedness):

      "• San Francisco may have plans to develop Treasure Island into a mega-development… but ya think that maybe, just maybe, they should first take a look at the radioactively contaminated soil and groundwater they’re planning to build it on? "

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      What if I told you the only thing Busby got right about that, which he probably doesn't mention, is a matter of gravity and equalization?

      But hey. Remember.

      "Busby claims that in the low dose regime, radiation moderately above background causes more cancer than much higher levels of radiation i.e. a biphasic (bimodal) curve; a claim based on the work of Russian biologist Elena Burlakova.[8][10]"

      That, quite literally means Busby is saying more radiation is less damaging than more radiation. Anne, how do you deal with this backwards reasoning?

      But hey, I'm no expert…thankfully. I'm kinda with Dana on this. Not a Busby fan, he kinda lost me when he tried to suggest about 5msv is equivalent to like, 500msv (since that's kinda what the biphasic model tries to represent, yet it doesn't, adequately).

      Seriously. How fucking dumb are you?

      Like seriously, if I shoot 5 times, randomly (stochastic, roughly), chances are I won't damage you TOO much, but if I shoot 500 times…

      • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

        *That, quite literally means Busby is saying more radiation is less damaging than less radiation

        Sorry, I do make typing mistakes.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          If a person inhales one ten millionths of a gram of plutonium it never leaves the body and is 100% lethal although the person may die of something else first.

          You cannot increase the odds of 100% of dying from an extremely low dose of plutonium.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            Eiichiro Ochiai, Hirochima to Fukushima: Biohazards of Radiation (2014), p, 201.

            “It might be pointed out that a high or low dose of radiation has nothing to do with the strength of radiation, but, rather, represents the number of radiation particles. The strength of radiation is dependent on the kinetic energy of the radiation particle. In other words, low-level radiation would produce the same kind of effects on biomolecules as high-level radiation, only that the number of affected areas would be smaller.”

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        Cancer of the larynx in relation to prior exposure to radioactivity whilst serving in the Royal Air Force.


        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          Radiochemical Genotoxicity Risk and Absorbed Dose
          Christopher Busby*

          “…The concept of Radiochemical Genotoxicity is presented whereby biochemical affinity of internal radionuclides or DNA confers an excess genetic hazard which can be assessed. The most directly measurable effects of radiation exposure are heritable effects detectable around birth. Data enabling the development of a risk coefficient for internal exposures to Uranium fission-products is already available. By directly employing a meta-analysis of more than 19 epidemiological studies of post-Chernobyl birth outcomes in 10 different countries affected by contamination from Chernobyl a generalized risk coefficient for heritable damage is obtained. It is shown that the dose response is biphasic due to death of the foetus before term. The resulting coefficient is 20 per mSv internal exposure. Application of the new factor to the radionuclide exposures occurring during the period of atmospheric test contamination predicts the increases in infant mortality reported in the literature. The philosophical and ethical aspects are briefly discussed together with an account of the legal position in Europe.”

          • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

            " The resulting coefficient is 20 per mSv internal exposure."

            This does not match his "biphasic" model, from my limited self-learnt physics and mathematical experiences and knowledge.

            Perhaps I am wrong.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              in the case of a fetus dying before its born, its easy to see that a higher dose would cause less disease than a lower dose; a dead person suffers no disease!

              But the biphasic data is there…Busby didnt do that research, he is just taking the existing information and dealing with it.
              Its complicated. There is the hormesis effect, the bystander effect, unknown effects. What the data does show is that very low levels of fallout are much more dangerous than the ICRP linear extrapolation model. And that is key to overthrowing the ICRP model which is required to have legal leverage to shut down nuclear

              • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

                "What the data does show is that very low levels of fallout are much more dangerous than the ICRP linear extrapolation model."

                I pose a simple question: Do you think more radiation is worse?


                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  Frank, how do you define "more"? If a person or fetus is already dead, "more" radiation can't kill that person more than he/she has already been killed.

                  Are you talking about K-40 or curium? Are you talking about internal exposure or external exposure? Are you talking about cosmic rays or radon or…..?

                  • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

                    Oh hey, sorry, would've replied earlier.

                    Let me put it this way, what radiation was Busby observing or testing for that caused such elevated at low levels? I would imagine, more of that, would be worse than less of it.

                    But my reasoning is bizarre like that.

                    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

                      Let me correct that.

                      Let me put it this way, what radiation was Busby observing or testing for that caused such elevated DAMAGE (this could be cancer or more immediate effects, which I kinda reckon is masked by that curve) at low levels? I would imagine, more of that, would be worse than less of it.

                  • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

                    So my contention is, 200msv isn't enough to kill you immediately, is it? Now if we consider (as I think most of us do??!?!) that more damaging radiation is typically worse than less damaging radiation…

                    But yet, massively increased rates of cancers (according to Busby) is associated with lower levels of radiation.

                    Look, I'm gonna give you a little bit of stronium-90. Would you like that, or prefer 10x that amount?

                    Someone's talking shit, and it ain't just me.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      FL, I think one of Busby's explanations is that if the radiation dose is high enough, the body rejects the damaged cells by apoptosis, where lower levels may allow mutations to continue

                      Radiation is thus far insufficiently studied. There may be thresholds, different effects from different radionuclides, positive and negative effects

                    • FaunaLord FaunaLord

                      That makes no sense.

                      So basically, the body then dies too quickly for it to be considered typical "cancer" or something.

                      At the very least, there would ALSO be the effects of lower level radiation, roughly stochastically, but I'm just guessing.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      FL, well you could take it up with Busby. He refers to Burlakova. The biphasic response. I think part of the idea is that DNA repair is upgraded along with the apoptosis. Thats the hormesis theory…pretty well documented.

                      They see the biphasic response, they attempt to explain it. But its very complicated. Inflammation is a healing response that also creates many disease states. I think it depends on the source of radiation, the duration, the intensity, the quantity, what period of the life cycle and more

                    • FaunaLord FaunaLord

                      Yeah well, I'm not too interested in researching nuke stuff anymore. Got priorities and shit.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      sorry to waste your time elucidating then…my fault FL

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    New Fukushima Contaminated Soil Storage Sits On River Banks
    November 8, 2017 Nancy Foust

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    TEPCO Implicated In Paradise Papers Scandal
    November 6, 2017 Nancy Foust

    “A group of newspapers and investigative journalists published a groundbreaking investigation in to tax avoidance schemes of the rich and large corporations. Similar to the Panama Papers, the new trove of data has exposed everyone from the Queen of England to Apple and Uber.

    “Among the revelations included this passage by ICIJ (International Consortium of Investigative Journalists)

    “’In addition to top-flight international banks such as Barclays, Goldman Sachs and BNP Paribas, other elite Appleby clients have included the founder of one of the Middle East’s largest construction conglomerates, the Saad Group, and the Japanese company operating the crippled nuclear power plant in Fukushima.’

    “This is obviously a reference to TEPCO. Details have yet to be provided and may come out in subsequent reporting by the newspapers involved in the project. The main aim by most of these offshore schemes is to avoid taxes. They did not mention when TEPCO was active in doing this. If it took place after the 2011 disaster it would take on a much more concerning aspect….”

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Sweet Dreams Planet Earth…sorry we brought you nothing but nightmares.

    • WillowsWeb WillowsWeb

      "We" didn't do shit.

      It's a relative handful of psychopaths who have developed and pushed the nuclear industry.

      • Sol Man

        The sacred covenant between the Universe and humans concerning the care of the earth and the children has been broken by those embracing this technology.

        I did not use the word "irretrievably" in front of broken, but it looks very bad.

      • earthsmith earthsmith

        @WillowsWeb…you part of the human race?
        Yes it IS WE who did it. WE LET IT HAPPEN ON OUR WATCH.
        Own up.

        • DUDe DUDe

          Zooming out looking at the damage to the whole as a result of human activity , the sellers and buyers are both equal part of the dynamic that destroyeth our Mother..or pusherman/junkie if you like , it may sound strange , but they are also in a symbiotic relation..

          Yes , there are differences in awareness and the power to change things..divided and locked in lies individuals against symbiotic monopoly's controlling the info , but not enough to plea ourselfes (the with open eyes enslaved customer) whiter then snow…

        • WillowsWeb WillowsWeb

          earthsmith, you really believe most people are pro-nuclear? Or that we control what the psychpathic New World Order does on this planet?

          You're buying into their socially-engineered guilty conscience. "Oh, humans are so terrible! We've brought this on ourselves!"

          They want human beings to blame these actions on the entire human race, rather than on the relative handful of people who have furthered this industry. There are individuals that need to be held accountable. And your lamentings won't help to hold them accountable.

  • Cisco Cisco

    Please Admin no disregard, but your post should have noted that the fish samples described are from fish samples that were acquired/purchased in March of 2015. Findings of the Study were published in December of 2016.

    This posting today is a form of unintentional disinformation, because between the time of the findings and it's republication today by ENENEWS, there would be higher concentrations 2-1/2 years later due to bio-accumulation and bio-magnification. The Study makes a limited statement, but a critical qualification that other associated radionuclides were not counted; therefore; counting only the Cesium present does not accurately provide how radioactive/contaminated the fish were. *"This study does not address the total committed effective dose from all radionuclides present in fish, …"

    The posting of the findings of this Study 2-1/2 years after the reported results in a dynamically changing ecosphere is in effect…misinformation/disinformation; because, the findings from fish samples analyzed in March 2015, don't represent the radiological conditions today which in turn is the true level of danger they present.

    Using only Cesium as representing the radioactivity in the fish and in turn the open question of the danger of consumption, is flawed and unscientific. To assess the true and accurate danger, all radionuclides would have to be measured, because we know Cesium in the wild is never isolated from other transuranics.


  • Cisco Cisco


    With the recycling of this 2015 Study, nuclear proliferation protagonists can cite low radiological conditions, conveniently supporting the meme…"no danger to the public, no worries.

    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      I guess you already hate me, that's okay.

      Still, I think instead of going top down you have to work from ground up.

      As I tried to explain, without the uranium (along with gold, silver, fluoride, cyanide, etc) mining, how much nuclear proliferation would there be?

      I may be horribly be mistaken about this, but it seems to me shifting their foundation, like pulling the carpet from underneath them would be a reasonable option.

    • 😐

      Article · December 2016 with 113 Reads
      "All activities were below derived intervention limits of 1200 Bq/kg and the doses to humans from consuming the fish attributable to radiocesium were 0.02-0.2 Sv, in comparison to 6-20 Sv contributed by the natural 40 K present in the same fish."

      The IMPORTANT INFORMATION, we should all somehow be demanding, is CURRENT DATA RIGHT NOW! But that never seems to happen. 😉

      btw – What is…
      95% Confidence Interval
      68% confidence interval
      (Fukushima tracer 134Cs, present above critical levels)

      One fact I am confident of is that the radioactive contamination will continue to spread and accumulate with time. The transport vectors are too numerous to calculate.

      Fukushima's TRIPLE MELTDOWNS are still spewing and the waste continues to grow by the minute worldwide.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Talking about dose exposure from bq exposure, and translating that to what looks like full body dose exposure is complete crap. That's like making the analogy of "the radiation exposure is like taking one airplane trip at high altitude for four hours." (Or some other similar nonsense.)

        Caveat emptor – let the buyer beware.

        That is such horse pucky. Talking about dose is irrelevant to the discussion of risk attributable to consuming fish (ingestion risk).

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          How on earth does ingestion and internal body exposure translate to some full body dose? Explain that, nuketards.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

          They talk about full body burden, how much will kill a person? In the case of internal exposure, depending on the radionuclide, it can be just a tiny particle in just one cell of the body that is the full body burden.

          Chapter 22
          Aspects of DNA Damage from Internal Radionuclides
          Christopher Busby
          Additional information is available at the end of the chapter

          Kristen Iversen, Full Body Burden: Growing up in the Nuclear Shadow of Rocky Flats (2012)

          Eileen Welsome, The Plutonium Files: America's Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold War (1999), 580 pages.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            Eileen Welsome, The Plutonium Files: America's Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold War (1999), 580 pages.
            p. 123.
            “Toward the end of June 1945, after the Manhattan Project’s Medical Section had received data on Albert, it officially lowered the tolerance dose to one microgram. (In 1949 a group of researchers recommended that the tolerance dose be lowered again, to one-tenth that amount, or 0.1 microgram, after former Met Lab scientist Austin Brues presented results of a rat study suggesting plutonium was fifteen times more damaging than radium. Wright Langham and other scientists vigorously opposed the adoption of such a conservative standard, arguing among other things, that it would produce ‘serious delays’ in the lab’s plutonium operations. The AEC’s Shields Warren struck a compromise and lowered the maximum permissible dose to 0.5 micrograms.)”

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        the current data…radioactivity of fish etc,…will still be below the 1200 Bq/kg including all radionuclides. The problem is that they underestimate the danger of low doses and mistakenly compare it to radioactivity from potassium. Its a ubiquitous problem.


    Lovely. Those are actually quite nice numbers. [NOT sarc.!] I think the Japanese norm of 50 Bq/kg radioCesium MAX is not bad, all-in-all. (compared to the US norm of 1200 Bq/Kg Cs134/137, for sure…) Salmon or Tuna with < 1 Bq/kg? What a find! 😉 I'd eat that without hesitation.

    I never stopped eating Pacific seafood. I never stopped eating, basically. :-), even had some "most popular dish" north of Iwaki when I visited Fukushima in 2013. Delicious. 😉 You can watch the fishing boats from the shore in the that supposed no-fishing zone a stone's throw outside the exclusion zone (pics: https://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/a-visit-to-fukushima-cut-short-with-photos-and-reflections/ ), while truly radioactive fish tickle the feet of surfers (12,400 Bq/kg of Cs-137 @ https://allegedlyapparent.wordpress.com/2014/01/12/caught-nov-17-2013-37-km-south-of-nuclear-disaster-site-a-black-sea-bream-fish-with-12400-bqkg-of-cs-137/ )

    Anyhow, You'll find more higher concentrations in much produce from Europe or California, for that matter, and wild mushrooms easily containing 10-100+ times more.

    It's not all relative, but you got to be able to recognize when something's actually NOT crazy 'alarming'.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Hmmn, over time, the cumulative body burden increases a great deal. So while a 50Bq/Kg amount may not sound like much, the body burden would be far higher, over time.

      Code Shutdown has done the calculations and can address this better than I can.

      Thought I'd read 5Bq/Kg eaten in fish or meat would over time cause the body to have a 200Bq/Kg body burden of Cesium 137, for example. Which would likely cause death from cancer or some other lethal disease. Not sure how long it would take the disease process to manifest, but 200Bq/Kg is a high body burden for something like Cesium 137. (The risk no doubt varies depending on the isotope one's exposed to.)

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      MVB, got beautiful prawns from Argentina not too long ago. Hope they were sourced from a relatively clean place. And not right offshore from Argentina's two nuke plants.

      The Atlantic seafood is out there. You just have to look for it.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        It was LOVELY to eat some seafood again … without fear. Maybe I should have been afraid. But it wasn't Pacific seafood.

        There probably is no pristine seafood or fish left anywhere.


        • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

          Actually, I (personally) spoke to one of our council members for sustainable fisheries a few years ago, he happened to have a (restaurant) franchise too.

          Had some hake, chips and a beer there (cheap stuff, good quality, nice atmosphere).

          Anyway, I mentioned fukushima to him, and he had no clue. Then he mentioned, particularly for prawn, supply has changed quite dramatically recently, in that he doesn't really receive what he orders. Figure it out.

          And remember, that's South Africa, about as far removed from Fukushima as you can get.

          • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

            For other South Africans in JHB) reading this, go to the Ocean Basket at the Brightwater Commons, the manager there is on the board of the Marine Stewardship Council or something. Tall greek dude. Nice guy.

  • Cesium Sponge Cesium Sponge

    I am looking at a bag of “Wild Alaskan Pollock” right now that has been sitting in my freezer. My mother just happened to go out for sushi with some old colleagues of hers today. The buffet inside the local resort that I like to play Bingo at serves crab five days out of the week. I think my family is done buying fish tacos from Rubio’s every Tuesday.

  • Jebus Jebus

    My car has a million tires.

    I think that if I check four of them for proper air pressure and only two are low then I can assume that all the other tires are either a little low or they are just fine. I don't have to worry about any flat ones because my sampling shows there are no flat tires…

  • Jebus Jebus

    No one on this planet knows how much manmade nuclear waste is too much.

    No one knows for anyone or anything. No one knows.

    Somewhere someone or something or both is/are getting too much manmade nuclear waste, in their face.

    Trump in Asia: US seafood prices on the line

    “Much of the U.S. supply chain comes out of Asia,” Robert Bleu, president of America’s leading seafood wholesaler True World Foods, told FOX Business. “So we’re right in the middle of this thing.”



    8 November, 2017

    Fuel Removal System Leaves Yokohama, Headed for Fukushima Daiichi-3



    Kyodo News, Japan
    Sept 2017

    5 nuclear plants' cooling systems may fail during volcanic eruptions

    Five nuclear power plants that have passed safety clearances by Japan's nuclear safety watchdog may be at risk of having their cooling systems crippled during huge eruptions of nearby volcanoes, the watchdog said Monday.



    Double earthquake strike in Japan: Tokyo hit by TWO huge tremors in space of hours
    JAPAN has been hit by a double earthquake strike as a 5.4
    magnitude struck off the coast of Iwaki just hours after a first earthquake hit.


    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Free people in the West everywhere … rude wakeup call. Beyond rude, we will get to the point where we will be forced to fight to the death. Many people in Europe realize it already.

      While PC governments continue in their failed policies of denial and enablement.


      Being a "weak" or "feeble" person, a potential victim by the standards of some (vs. a tough soldier, military policman, etc.), the threat is quite obvious. And this person here is NOT in denial.

      Deny at your own peril.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        In the culture/ideology portrayed, killing women and children, maiming, torturing, brutalizing and rape is GOOD, and it's what their religion commands. Really sick, how could anyone serve such a cruel god and deranged messenger.

  • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

    "Demonstration against controversial waste treatment plant project at Areva's Malvési conversion plant

    The nitrate treatment plant "TDN Thor" should be able to absorb some of the tailings ponds and transform part of the liquid waste into ultimate waste that can be stored elsewhere."


    2000-3000 people protesting that ain't too bad.

    I'm getting ultimately wasted today.

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    This is always so darn hard to do, but here goes.

    Talk about finding radiation. We recently made a shocking discovery that was reported to ENE here to post as a story about a month ago, but Admin did not post it.

    For your shocking pleasure this report will be posted here in bits and pieces. Do the homework people and use your tools to verify and report your own results. This is a worthy story that deserves its own thread.

    From 10-10-17

    It was a horrible and shocking discovery to make this warm sunny Tuesday that started out as another beautiful fall Indian Summer Day. Little could anyone know that today would reveal a secret that no one could have ever had any concept of, except the evil that causes it.

    Some history: long has there been a big proven suspicion that propane being burned indoors IS RADIOACTIVE. Higher radiation than the normal background amounts in this area of So. Colorado, and northern New Mexico.

    Yes, that’s right. EVERYONE that is using propane in the four corners region, perhaps the country, or even the world, is sucking in forced radioactive heated air from the burned propane. Most likely Natural gas too.

    This is also why so many heart attacks happen during the winters. Counts upwards in the 70-80’s CPM(100 CPM is alert level) have been measured indoors during past winters by placing the counter in front of the blowing air from a propane heater. We do not use Natural gas, so that still needs to be checked.


    • James Tekton James Tekton


      Our families have stopped using that forced air propane heater, and will always use a small wood stove after finding this information to be true. It has done the job of getting through a few good winters so far. Anyone can easily check this out with a good counter. Not a cheap one like many people get. The cheap counters do not count as much as a mid-range or high dollar one will.

      There was a time when we checked the small propane tank we have for BBQing and it was found to be hot(radioactive) too. We wondered about the source and found that areas north and south had been nuked to get it to come out of the ground. Why else would they frak gas using nukes to do it? More so, why do they sell this poisonous substance to people to heat with?




      Propane comes from Natural Gas. Here is some info about LPG and Nat gas:

      • James Tekton James Tekton


        So when the propane truck showed up for the regular winter filing just recently, here was the chance to check it out. A big source of the propane. Not the original source, but a carrier itself to see how hot(radioactive) it might be. On prior occasions the driver was told that there was the possibility that the propane he was carrying was radioactive. He did not believe it then, so this was the opportunity to prove, or not prove the suspicion was true.

        It was decided to place the counter on the nozzle on the side of the truck. The good man offered to open up the relief valve and was immediately told, no thanks, this will do. Rads would go through the metal. In the setting of the counter on a spot atop of the nozzle on the side of the truck where it would count and not fall off, the audio sound was on and it was already ticking very rapidly. No doubt this was going to be a high reading, but how high? It would take ten minutes to do the quick counting to find out.


        • James Tekton James Tekton


          We waited and talked some more and then the timer went off. Beep beep…beep beep…beep beep…it was the sound signaling the end of a ten minute count. We could already tell it was going to be high, but had no idea how high. The count registered 1671 total counts in ten minutes, for a count of 167 CPM. We were shocked! Simply waylaid to see how high this reading was just sitting atop the nozzle. Did not even want to imagine what the count would have been if the propane gas was openly exposed to the counter.

          Then, for further evidence of what we found, the hand held counter was placed up close against the outside of the truck almost touching the large tank itself to check what the reading would be in uSv/hr. It actually went higher before this picture below was taken when it was at .772 uSv/hr.
          The poor guy was shocked. That made two of us. Totally shocked to find out this horrible truth. Told him to mumms the word, not to tell his boss, and to talk to his wife about how important this job really was, considering it was killing him at a faster rate than anyone could even have imagined.

          • James Tekton James Tekton


            This added to the abnormally high background radiation of the area, Fuckushima, Hanford, and all the other leaking nuke plant fallout coming from west of the Rockies, makes this one heck of a dangerous occupation, much less how harmful it is for the average person who is using Propane or Natural gas heating indoors. The very word ghastly, comes to mind.

            Someone mentioned the ashes of the wood and a measurement from that some time back revealed that yes, it too is hot. Not as bad as the propane truck or forced air heating though. The ashes are more or less contained then disposed of into a burn pile for more recycling. Remember, radiation only adds up in the body. It never goes away.

            Here below are the pictures that were taken on 10-10-17 of the propane truck and counter in action. What a day to remember. For any who doubt how dangerous this is, you are invited to get your own higher-end Geiger counter(Inspector Alert) and check this yourself. If you do your homework and learn about slow radiation poisoning, the causes and effects, you will not be happy to find out what you will uncover. The sad part of this story is, no one will care or do anything to stop it. Big babylonian oil oligarchs will not stop robbing and killing the people. When it comes right down to it, the really extremely horrid part of this is the fact that people are actually paying the propane suppliers to kill them slowly. Paying big money to kill themselves off. Is that sane?

            • James Tekton James Tekton


              Links to photos:

              Counter On Nozzle:

              .772 uSv/hr on outside of Propane Truck:

              1671 Total After Ten Minute Count:

              Back Ground Check Right After Checking the Propane Truck And Closed Nozzle.:

              This is a sad report to make, but perhaps this information can help save some lives.

              Do your homework.


              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                A couple of things to ponder.

                Ventless indoor gas heaters/fireplaces.

                Direct-vent indoor units.

                Forced Air/exchanger style heaters.

                They are all very different, in the context of this discussion, very important are the differences.

                A good time to also ponder big cities…like LA…most people heating water/space/clothes drying with nat-gas. Where is all the 'flue-gas' going?
                Most of the electric power generated by…nat-gas?

                And your burger/steak,,,on a propane grill, bathing in it, your clothing bathing in it on every dryer ride, your oven/stove,,,a long list of stuff.

                It is an interesting subject.

      • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

        James, do you reckon that radioactivity associated with propane is perhalps related to PAHs (I have a very strong hunch about this, buckyballs and such)?

        However, in saying only that, I wouldn't be mentioning the radioactive materials used in LNG (if you could even call it that, honestly) extraction.

    • freebywill

      Great report James, I hope you have a blog or site and have posted this there.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Hi James, did you read the Enenews stories about the gas well and storage blowouts in Southern California awhile back? Aliso Canyon. It's near Simi Valley, and not far from the Rocketdyne site.

      Posting links, our "search" function appears to be MIA.

      It was a big story. Reporting covered uranium and radon found in natural gas operations. It occurs naturally underground.

      That might add a missing piece to your puzzle.

      There was some question as to whether or not the toxic materials were being blown out of gas mains away from the site. Found a graph showing leakage but not sure if I posted it here. Robert Kennedy Jr's. firm was investigating and was planning to represent people harmed down there. Bad scenario and many evacuees. People's animals were dropping dead, much more.


      "Experts: Magnitude of LA gas leak 'way beyond what any of us have ever been told' — 'It’s a worst case emission' — 'I’ve never seen a release of this magnitude' — It’s flowing directly into towns with “very little dilution… a worst case scenario” — 'Very dangerous condition… be very, very concerned' (VIDEO)"
      You should be able to locate lots of news coverage and great comments here.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Hello James. The issue as some of us have perceived getting stories published here is this: unless the story is documented by multiple news sources (media) it likely won't be published here. Stories are also typically "big" news, that is, of great concern in an area or community.

      Fukushima related news typically gets top coverage, followed by news re: nuclear plants in Japan and the U.S. And news about fish die-offs, etc., where it can be related to radioactive contamination.

      Admin hasn't covered the Bayou Corne stories for a long time.

      I wanted to see stories published about the "bomb trains" carrying light, sweet crude from frac sites. But that never got published here.

      I'm not sure why some kinds of stories are published, while others aren't. I'd suggest sending Admin. links to multiple media stories about the same subject if you can. Not sure how else to noodge these things onto Admin's radar.

    • James, interesting stuff.

      I will make an article on that unless you object

      being an HVAC engineer, I know that most heating systems have a heat exchanger to keep the combustion products separate from the air going the house. So any radiation in the propane would not be delivered to the house, but vented outside. So it might not be as bad as you think, but its good observation.

      I have been testing air filters with 2 identical Radiation Inspector Alert Geigers. One with the alpha window closed. With the Alpha window closed, the readings are almost the same as background.

      Don't be befuddled, this means that ALL of the radiation on the air filters is Alpha, not good!

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        It would be interesting to come up with data on xx rads per cu ft of gas, probably the million cf mark.

        Would be different for LPG/LNG/pipeline, region, all kinds of stuff.

        California burned 2,400 TRILLION btu's worth of nat-gas, 2015.
        2,400,000,000,000,000 or 76,000,000 btu a second. Kind of hard to visualize big #'s.
        About 90,000btu/gal for LPG. So Cali rips thru 850gallons a second…if it were LPG. Gotta be some rads floating around. Natural gas has less heat content/vol, so more volume. Yikes.
        And Texas gets rich.

        I wonder if algore/moonbeam has a chart on this as a global warming detail?

        Anyway, it all has a bit of radiation in it, as you said it goes out the flue, and into the environment. Your roof, car, kids playyard, garden, dogs favorite crapzone. A little stays in the house, depending on appliances. Most of it daughters down to lead.

        I think I read a study, PennState?, seemed to 'go away'. 😆
        Move along, no harm here.

        It is interesting, because of the volumes involved.


      • James Tekton James Tekton


        Stock, hard copy it all and place it on your site.

        Big love to all respondents…lets continue to check and monitor this. If you have a gas man show up, try to check his truck, nozzles, or the outside of his truck. Again, be reminded that the consensus is, that the cheaper giegers will not give counts like the better counters. I have tried to reach out to Jessy on BP to see if I could borrow one of the giegers he sells for this kind of testing purposes, but he does not respond to my mail. Selah. It would be interesting to do some comparison tests with different counters counting the same environments and samples.

        Will respond more later after reading some of these comments.

        Blessings and Grace to ALL!


  • laconic93 laconic93



    I have said it once and I will say it again! The best intelligence comes from the comment sections.

    The plan is to take out the crown prince. Then kill King Salman. With the King and the Crown Prince dead, who is next in line? Yup. The former deputy crown prince, Muqrin. So, posing as terrorists who wanted to buy the guns for some terrorist attack, they dupe the CIA or FBI to supply the guns to the death squad. Their real plan is to climb the stairs right after the deal and kill the VIP in the floors above them. This is why the weapons cashe was located on the 32nd floor. They would only have to climb a few stairs or take the elevator up a little to start the killing. Now, here's what happened that night:

    Paddock is made the patsy. Why? Because if a failed Saudi assassination attempt was responsible for the deaths, if the FBI/CIA had supplied the guns that killed 58 innocent people (not counting Paddock since he's an asset), then two things would happen. One, we would demand that we go to war with Saudi Arabia. And two, which ever organization that Paddock worked for

    The Vegas shooting was an attempted assassination of a Saudi Royal Prince who was stating on he top floors of the Mandalay Bay on October first according to this posting on Reddit .

    Agent Pineapple Juice Passphrase: Zip it up and Zip it out .

  • Jebus Jebus

    They wear masks when they make it.

    They wear masks when it blows up.

    You see they are wearing masks.

    They say there is no harm right away.

    They say the fish have found the corium.

    They say it is in little bits.

    You think how much corium over there makes little bits over here.

    They seperate yesterdays backround to show you it is ok today.

    They tell you it is the same as backround.

    They say you see it's just soluable cesium.

    They say it's like part of potassium or an average evenings xray.

    They say they stopped atmospheric testing because it became the backround.

    It's seperate and small. Naturally with confidence.

    So enough tonight, goodnight, tomorrows another dose…

  • Its All True Its All True

    A brief moment of kharma for the most deserving PM Abe of Japan…


    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      Who respects Abe?!?!? TRUMP DOES!

      They do seem to have some of that imperialist brotard sociopathy thing going.

      "Sorry to burst your fucking bubble, it's time to set things straight…I can't deny it, I'm taking over".

  • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus


    So I have to say, I'm not happy. Humans are just a little too ignorant. My family, people I live with, just minutes, earlier, laughed and ignored as I cried about the distress and pain of an animal.

    Pieces of shit. I can no longer keep my hate bound.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Genetic Analysis Results for Pacific Cod Samples Taken from Norton Sound in 2017

    Alaska Fisheries Science Center's Dr. Ingrid Spies to share the results of her genetic analysis of samples of Pacific cod taken from Norton Sound during the 2017 Northern Bering Sea bottom trawl survey to monitor groundfish/crab and other bottom dwelling species.

    Changing environmental conditions have been observed in the Northern Bering Sea region in recent years, including significant differences between fish species caught in NOAA Fisheries surveys during 2010 and 2017.Significant differences in the Pacific cod distribution were observed from 2010 to 2017 in the Northern Bering Sea, a 907% increase. Concurrently, the 2017 estimate for Pacific cod in the Eastern Bering Sea declined by 37% from estimates in 2016. Hypotheses for these changes included northward movement of Pacific cod, population expansion of existing Northern Bering Sea populations, or movement from other regions, such as the Gulf of Alaska (which also experienced a decline in 2017) or Russia. We tested these hypotheses by comparing the genetic composition (using Restriction-site Associated DNA sequencing) of a sample from Norton Sound in 2017 with that of spawning populations throughout the Bering Sea and an existing baseline from other spawning populations throughout Alaska waters.


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