Published: May 30th, 2011 at 11:11 am ET
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Fukushima Risks Chernobyl ‘Dead Zone’, Bloomberg by Yuriy Humber and Stuart Biggs, May 30, 2011:
Radioactive soil in pockets of areas near Japan’s crippled nuclear plant have reached the same level as Chernobyl, where a “dead zone” remains 25 years after the reactor in the former Soviet Union exploded. [...]
Soil samples showed one site with radiation from Cesium-137 exceeding 5 million becquerels per square meter about 25 kilometers to the northwest of the Fukushima plant, according to Kawata’s study. Five more sites about 30 kilometers from Dai- Ichi showed radiation exceeding 1.48 million becquerels per square meter. [...]
Published: May 30th, 2011 at 11:11 am ET
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How dead is a “dead zone”?
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I dont think you will be able to compare the two sites as Chernobyl is way less virulent than Fuky. initially in Chernobyl trees died, most of the cleaners died (people who went in to decon, which they evenutally gave up trying to do after bankrupting the country), the people who built the sarcaphagous are all dead, 100,000. There were thousands of cancers in the zone folks and birth defects to the children. Then the count for cancers world wide from Chernobyl is a million and counting. So take that to the power of 10 and you have Fuky. You can go to you tube and google chernobyl dead zone, cleaners, birth defects, etc and find lots of interesting videos. Also there you will find a three part about how the animals are taking over the dead zone. So in chernobyl, because of the sarcophagus, the wildlife have been able to reclaim the area and survive…. only because of the sarcophagus though… which we dont have even a hint of for Fuky. And the cover on the Chernobyl mess is deteriorating and may crumble soon, which means all bets are off and rad will start spewing out again. oh the joys of nuclear power.
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ps…. lots of wildlife died due to birth defects… the ones who were hardy survived and bred, so natural selection will eventually get rid of non viable mutations…. over lots of time and with a lot of pain and suffering.
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The animals may be able to go back into the area, but they can still have tons of birth defects, shorter life spans, and pass that radiation off to humans or other animals if they are eaten.
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A little exaggeration is ok, Whimprel, but let’s not get too enthusiastic about it!
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Godzilla – Why don’t you go F*ck yourself and play in traffic you piece of shit.
There is no exaggeration. We all know what happened at Chernobyl. I suppose the two headed babies were because of stress or the earless rabbit at fukushima is because the rabbit mother was stressed.
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I see they let the middle schoolers out early today.
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If anything people are generally too conservative – too calm about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fCCVU4y7oE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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They will know soon enough, and blackouts about will be the rule of the day !
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The specific part of the rant that was exaggerated was “most of the cleaners died (people who went in to decon, which they evenutally gave up trying to do after bankrupting the country), the people who built the sarcaphagous are all dead, 100,000.”
Yes I’m aware that the media has played down the results to an enormous extent and that some of those people did die of radiation poisoning, and statistically there were probably an enormous amount of extra cancer deaths.
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http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html
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Amen.
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I wonder what the plutonium , uranium, strontium levels are in the soil ?
We have all those things in Hawaii, I bet they are really bad in Japan !!
They aren’t Telling !!
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So if there is Plutonium in Hawaii, and someone inhales it and dies, isn’t TEPCO then liable for involuntary manslaughter of that victim? I just wonder as there is a overwhelming component of negligence in the situation starting back at the plant site selection process where relevant prudent facts were willfully ignored despite the dangers to innocent victims if the risk taking failed.
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I hope, Anthony, that you know the World of Lyin’ Lawyers
brought us to this point.
There will be no satisfaction of Damages, no Awards for
Pain-and-Suffering, No Depositions, No Subpoenas, No
damn Parasite Lawyers Getting a Damned DIME!
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Which means no victims will get 2 dimes….
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Not propelling the sharks anymore believe me… the liability I speak of is one of shame of doing something extra shitty and lying about it thereafter. Its always nice to put a name and face to an odor.
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The US Supreme Court just set a precedent about class action suits against corporations in the Bank of America case. In a 5-4 decision they barred the class from due process by stating class litigants must go separately into arbitration pre-selected by the bank and could be denied a court hearing based on pre-existing arbitration clauses.
In effect, the cost, time and burden of proof would be very high hurdles for individual litigants to meet and the damages lower. Without collective suits, more reputable firms or lawyers couldn’t take these cases. Without class action punitive and treble damages that effectively change corporate policy would not apply.
The Free Trade agreements and WTO also have clauses Internationally which make it hard and there’s no political will – except for “tort reform” or the opposite. The SCOTUS, Executive, Legislative branches and media have never been more unbalanced and pro-corporate in our nation’s history. So, they’re all scoffing the Constitition, Bill of Rights, Rule of Law, enforcement, regulation, precedent and tradition in matters like this.
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Link :
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/banking/2011/05/us-supreme-court-okays-binding-arbitration-clauses-prohibiting-consumers-from-joining-class-actions.html
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You Are One Tough Chick! You see? Your
affirmation of just how lousy our legal “Legal” options really are, points up what we gotta do.
NOT reliance upon, nor even wasting a moment on,
legal considerations.
It’s going to be like that movie “The Road”.
Huggies to you, ya tough Chick.
We have a fun bunch of Gals here starting a roller-derby team, and my favorite Name on the back of the Jersey is “Bricky ShitHouse”!! tee hee hee.
They have alotta fun.
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You see, the nuclear industry receives waivers from the US government AND when the phenomenally low accident insurance they’re required to carry runs out, the remainder of liability upon taxpayers. International accidents are even harder to litigate than that. Global profit, local offset – it’s a crooked liability scheme with effectively zero liability for them and 100% to the public when you break it down with subsidies.
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We should still organize and sue. It’s all they understand and what they fear financially and politically.
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Smoke and Mirrors.
By Emmy 2011
Miracles can happen overnight in Fukushima, Japan. In a report released Earlier today: May 29th 2011. (By Nhk), Cooling systems in all of reactors 1-4, have been restored. “As another cooling system breakdown occured on the fukushima daichii reactor 5″… yet again a miracle for the eye to see, as NHK Has also reported only 5 hours later that tepco has also repaired function to the reactor 5 cooling systems as well…
Lets see how miracles unfold…
Now in another report issued on May 27th, article headlines read: USA Nuclear industry was fortunante that the BP oil disaster happened – “It Helped shape communication strategy for the current crisis at fukushima”… I.E. Press Coverage…
Lets also include our other great news articles: NRC Commissioner citing that a : 50mile evacuation zone in fukushima was very conservative (May25th 2011)” Crippled Nuke Plant not prepared for heavy rain, and wind, (kyodo News, May 28th 2011);
There is a serious message being sent to us here. The Japanese economy has now crashed completely. Japan will not recover. As they say: “all bets are off”…
Let me explain how we can infer that…
“Tepco” to date has contaminated 25% or more of the mainisland island of Japan; “Oceanic” life is forever tainted in areas that the government has refused, to allow independant measurments in; More importantly Countries globally are worried about the implications on international buisness relations in which Japanese exports are now contaminated with growing levels of radiation as exports are expected to be cut internationally by 50% or more. This in addition to the destruction of recent earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and hurricanes which have interupted daily business;
Japan’s holding on to the edge of the cliff by its finger nails.
What the Japanese are now realizing is that embaresing its face…
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internationally, has not only endangered its own reputation. Its witholding of information is impacting the lives of everyone on the planet…
People are very angry scared and confused when having to confront the feild of nuclear physics Head on against a huge mis information campaign…
So lets get this straight: “Tepco” which was busy preparing for hurricane songja, all week, and is at this very second getting hammered with 70mph gusts or more; at the same time struggling in their efforts to avoid a china syndrome. Have against all odds restored the cooling operations in reactor’s 1,2,3, and 4; While structurally adding reinforcements to reactor 4… and repairing unit 5′s cooling systems…
Way to go TEPCO…
You expect us to believe that in the same week you “came clean”, from witholding that 3 nuclear reactors had in fact “melted down” in your country; That anyone is willing to invest in Japanese Buisness, and products?
You have withheld crutial data that impacted your citizens lives; Denied access from private radiation sampeling; losing even more money in finances for your marketing; vending; and tourism districts…
This is not a miracle… “this is smoke and mirrors.”….. When you watch what is going on in the left hand; Be-aware the right hand is off doing something else…
It is now quite obvious, that 100% of japanese stock investors, should walk from their investments in Japan… “Japan has lied to the world” and there is nothing to gain in a crashing market… The contamination of internation exports hinders every viable way for the economy to recover financially. Even worse, Every second in time the situation in japan is esclating. Its sure cataclysm…
Now that the BP oilspill “Media Campaign Playbook” has been established. Be ready for a full scale media blackout… But Dont Worry!!! You will have access to a live stream webcam; that points at the
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leak they won’t be able to fix for years…Simply Relax knowing that Tepco will now be completely honest about the radiation levels that are expected to be “decreasing” anyday now… In a few years time, “Japan” may even financially recover…
Yes this is the Miracle you are a witness to: The very laws of nuclear physics have been replaced by a last ditch effort to sustain economical stability.
Cheers
Emmy
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http://www.arirang.co.kr/News/News_View.asp?nseq=116500&code=Ne2&category=2
TEPCO: High Radiation Level at No.2 Reactor of Fukushima Nuclear Plant Detected
The amount of radioactive material detected around reactor No. 2 at the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant increased drastically over the weekend.
TEPCO, the operator of the plant, says it detected levels of radioactive Iodine 131 that were 130 times the legal limit on Friday, BUT levels 600 times the limit were detected on Saturday.
Since Iodine has a half life of 8 days this announcement shows radioactive materials are still leaking from the reactors.
Meanwhile, as heavy rain and strong winds are expected to hit Japan this week, fears are rising that contaminated water could be carried into the air and sea.
And as the Typhoon season is coming to Asia soon, Korea is becoming increasingly concerned about the possible spread of radiation from Japan.
MAY 30, 2011
This goes completely against the reactors cooling systems being repaired…
Radiation cant be leaking and submerged, unless there is a china syndrome taking place…
Hmmm…
Cause all the fuel is in the spent fuel pools… Or in the reactor hot seats…
And according to the news the pools are all not boiling… so according to this article. Radiation is being released from the reactors… Which aren’t being cooled… And they melted through all the containments… Sooo the high radiation? Its coming from a… Oh No… ! Oh Oh MY GOD…!
China syndrome Is the only explainable theory in my mind… Hence why…
A. Rad monitors got taken away
B. Radiation is skyrocketing
C. Japan is hushy hushy…
D. Theres fog on the cam everyday…
E. Ever see fog in a hurricane? cause I cant see the cam…
I just wonder what the cpm’s of radiation the average citizens of tokyo are running these days… 300?, 3200?, 4000?, 30,000?… More?
Emmy.
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NOTE: This is my GUESS, not nuclear physics.
I agree with tacomagroove, except on one tiny point:
I believe china syndromes — plural — happened a while ago, possibly during the first few days. There is zero historical evidence about what a syndrome would look like and do. Historically, such things never have happened.
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“So lets get this straight: “Tepco” which was busy preparing for hurricane songja, all week, and is at this very second getting hammered with 70mph gusts or more”
No offense, but please be a little more careful and updated about details. Things are bad enough without exaggerations! The wind in Fukushima City is 7mph at this time, and the wind in Sendai is 17 mph. The outlook is a mix of sun and showers over the next week, no heavy winds or heavy rain.
But yeah, Japan is fuk-ed concerning the economy, it might take decades for them to recover, and we’re likely to get more incidents of some fallout here in the US.
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Thats a repost from when they were getting slammed.
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They import about 64,000,000,000 (billion US) from the U.S. About twice that from China. Someones gonna get laid off…..
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tacomagroove
any ideas on how to find the amount of radiation reaching ecuador, peru, uruguay, or brasil south america
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sssssssh
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NIRS said a month ago that most evacuations are permanent relocations – they just aren’t telling the evacuees/relocated that.
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Those TEPCO workers are zumbis….do they know that?
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slowwww motion world kill as the proud japanese slumber on in between playing computer games.
how tragic that these zombies will only wake up to what tepcogov is doing and has done,when family members start dropping.
going to be a lot of deaths by natural causes coming.
Expert: no threat of radiation from rain
Professor Shunichi Yamashita of Nagasaki University says there’s no need to prepare for radioactive rain.
Yamashita said on Sunday that no radiation has been detected in dust in the atmosphere. He was referring to an investigation conducted last week in areas more than 20 kilometers away from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
He says the rains mean radioactive substances on the ground will be washed away and thinly diffused, except for in areas that collect rain.
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_05.html
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As Leuren Moret said in one of her interviews (I’m paraphrasing) ‘the Fukushima workers are being paid five thousand dollars, to work until they die.’
I pray for them and wish that SOMEONE (who REALLY knows what they are doing) would take over this operation, so that those workers would not be risking their lives in vain.
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It might be argued, BlackMoon, that these guys are
choosing the only logical path for their reality:
Get it OVER with, and at least put a few bucks into the
Diaper fund. Go ahead and do the Suicide mission.
BANZAI!
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I respect the Japanese, who prefer death to surrender.
If the only action required to win this fight was human self-sacrifice, then Japanese men would be standing in line for the honor.
GO JAPAN. GO JAPAN. GO JAPAN.
We are rooting for you.
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Love ya, Japan! Lord have mercy!
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That ‘dilution solution’ didn’t work in the Gulf of Toxico, and it won’t work in Japan.
And it so last month…
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That live camera feed (webcam) from Fukushima is now black and pixelated, and has been for a couple of days.
We know robots break down under high radiation. A remote camera is a robot.
Just theorizing …(possibly fearmongering).
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No way PU239, I bet you are correct in your assumptions.
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Link to live camera (webcam) from Fukushima:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptmoVcgpqg
[Keywords: cam, webcam, live cam, fukushima, live feed, tbs, jnn]
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Have seen no live feed since 2 days b4 typhoon.
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I agree…
There is much more to know than what they are telling us.
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Like, there’s bad weather obscuring the view of the camera for example?
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OK, I thought I was the only one with bad timing. I never see anything when I click on that link.
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My conclusions in the following post are being confirmed. And, as expected, not a word in the article about plutonium or uranium levels in the soil.
http://enenews.com/huge-outcry-erupting-govt-is-leaving-fukushima-to-suffer-and-perish-impossible-to-evacuate-fukushima-city-home-to-300000#comment-71141
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No mention of the DOZENS of dangerous isotopes being released. Utterly irresponsible.
Companies and govt bodies with a demonstrated lack of ability to operate nuclear plants safely SHOULD NOT be permitted to continue to operate nuclear plants.
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Just a continuation of the lie.
http://www10.antenna.nl/wise/index.html?http://www10.antenna.nl/wise/573/5436.html
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Good find, heart, those articles of Tepco falsifying safety reports are from 9 years ago…2002.
This just adds to my belief that nuclear and capitalism are not compatible.
Capitalism seeks the quick solution–the “get it on the market fast” motive which is far too dangerous with nuclear energy.
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100% agree.
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Relocate to where? Another planet?
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Yep, I heard Mars was nice, this time of year.
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****A Fuji Television Network poll released Monday showed more than 80 percent of Japanese voters do not trust government information about the country’s nuclear crisis. About the same percentage of respondents said TEPCO is dealing with the crisis poorly. ***
http://www.publicopiniononline.com/nationalnews/ci_18170530
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**** Radiation exceeds limit in Iitate & Namie
The science ministry says the accumulative radiation exposure level has exceeded the government limit for evacuation at two locations more than 20 kilometers from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
The ministry said on Monday that the cumulative exposure had reached 20 millisieverts in a district in the mountain village of Iitate, Fukushima Prefecture. The district is about 33 kilometers northwest of the plant.
On Sunday, the ministry said that total radiation exposure had exceeded 35 millisieverts at one location in Namie Town, 31 kilometers northwest of the plant.
Both Iitate and Namie are within the expanded evacuation zone, where residents have been asked to leave due to concerns over dangerous levels of radiation.****
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_23.html
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Internal exposure concerns
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_24.html
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Expert: no threat of radiation from rain
Professor Shunichi Yamashita of Nagasaki University says there’s no need to prepare for radioactive rain.
Yamashita said on Sunday that no radiation has been detected in dust in the atmosphere. He was referring to an investigation conducted last week in areas more than 20 kilometers away from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
He says the rains mean radioactive substances on the ground will be washed away and thinly diffused, except for in areas that collect rain.
Monday, May 30, 2011 06:05 +0900 (JST)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_05.html
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Personally, I think this expert is WRONG
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Work suspended at Fukushima plant due to hard rain
The operator of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has suspended some of its outdoor work due to heavy rain and strong winds caused by a tropical storm.
Tokyo Electric Power Company says it is watching closely to ensure that contaminated water in reactor buildings and elsewhere do not flow outside as the water levels have been rising because of the rain.
It has been raining since Sunday in the areas around the Fukushima plant.
The utility has stopped spraying chemicals to prevent radioactive dust from spreading. It is also considering suspending work to remove debris.
It has piled up sandbags to prevent rain from getting inside electrical facility buildings to ensure the reactor cooling systems continue to function.
TEPCO has also secured a giant storage barge that was deployed to contain contaminated water to a quay.
Monday, May 30, 2011 12:51 +0900 (JST)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_13.html
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Agree w/you Anthony. Proof, evidence, and testing to show that the opinions of the “experts” are verifiable.
How many times have these so-called experts been proven wrong in this disaster? Too many times to believe them any longer, IMV.
Where are all of the Geiger counters going to in Japan? I thought to the Japanese People.
The People should start their own testing programs (rain, food, soil, each other) and they should put these results on facebook and youtube.
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The gadget minded should incorporate tiny sensors to the mobiles with software to detect radioactivity of all kinds.
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Steve, gieger counter and dosmimeter usuage is a bit trickier than programming a VCR.
Good site here:
http://www.lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/whats-hot-and-whats-not-becoming-expert-your-geiger-counter-spark-detector
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Fukushima cows are being evacuated!
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This is emphasise that rain’s radioactivity effect is deadly. No effect due to rain is indeed wrong.
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Actions speak louder than words.
I also found this article interesting as I thought they had euthanized all the animals in Fukushima the last three weeks already?
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Gosh!
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Tropical storm brings heavy rain to Japan
A tropical storm, downgraded from a typhoon, is bringing heavy rain across a large area from western to eastern Japan.
The Meteorological Agency is calling for caution against mudslides.
The agency says the typhoon changed to a tropical storm around 3 PM on Sunday, after passing near southern Kyushu and reaching waters south of Shikoku.
Wet air from the south continues to blow into the front that stretches along the southern coasts of western and eastern Japan, causing heavy rain in the Shikoku, Kinki and Tokai regions.
Some parts of western Japan have had up to 250 millimeters of rainfall in the past 24 hours, heightening the risk of landslides.
Winds of up to 117 kilometers per hour were observed in Okayama Prefecture.
Wet air from the south is expected to hit cold air from the north above Honshu through Monday, and some parts of western and eastern Japan will have 50 to 70 millimeters of rainfall per hour. Heavy rain is also likely along the Pacific coast of the Tohoku region.
Gusts of up to 90 kilometers per hour are expected along the Pacific coast of western Japan through Monday. Waves will top 6 meters on the Pacific coast of eastern and western Japan as well as the Tohoku region.
Quake-hit areas have become vulnerable to mudslides and floods due to the loosening of the ground.
The agency is warning of possible flooding in low-lying areas, overflowing rivers, strong winds and high waves.
Sunday, May 29, 2011 23:18 +0900 (JST)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/29_18.html
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Poor workers:
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/national/news/20110530p2a00m0na008000c.html
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They should be given triple pay at least for this, since due to exposure they wouldn’t be able to get further work in the industry for some years to come.
Not to mention that they should get their fill of cold water and other beverages.
Some decent food and a few changes of clothing would be nice too.
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Milk cows moved outside Fukushima evacuation zone
Dairy farmers have begun moving cows out of a village in the evacuation zone for the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident.
The move came after radiation levels in raw milk from Iitate Village and part of Kawamata Town cleared the government’s safety standards. A ban on the shipment of raw milk was lifted last Wednesday on the condition that these cows are kept outside the evacuation zone.
Farmer Masatsugu Shiga had his 7 cows transported out of the village in a truck on Monday.
Shiga says he is relieved that his cows can survive in a different place but he is angry that he could have continued dairy farming if it had not been for the nuclear accident.
Video of cows moving:
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_14.html
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Notice that the worker has the radiation suit on, and not the cow. That picture alone is very telling.
Does anyone want to buy that milk, with a picture like that?
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OMG so true!!! Great observation! I love cows. People, maybe not so much lately.
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Gosh! Brilliant. See the explosive effects of internalising radiation via grass and water and air at
http://plutoniumaradiumabillionpeoplehitdna.blogspot.com/2007/12/stop-nuclear-energy-programmes.html
Excerpt:
Sievert is a subjective measure of radiation dose based on the Gray, a Joule of energy delivered to a kilogramme of tissue. Note that a radioactive element (the radionuclide being Plutonium 239 or Radium 226 (mining uranium or in a coal fired plant, the flyash)) lodged in a living cell may deliver (5000000 to 6000000)x10^-19 Wattseconds(Joules) in 10^-17 seconds(Ref 2) to a DNA molecule in a cell weighing 512×10^-15 kg. The dose to the cell then is about 1000 mSv. The dose to the DNA weighing much less is much much more (a million times or so)! The dose to the cell is delivered at the rate of 50-60 KW or at a power surge of average muscle power of more than a thousand people! What the ECRR is recommending is that nukes should not deliver a dose of more than that corresponding to a 5 W-6W hit to a single cell. Since there are hundreds of thousands of DNAs in a single cell, the hit should not be more than say 5-6 megawatts(MW) or equivalent to those delivered by a hundred thousand musclemen to a single DNA! And the ICRP says 5 mSv or 50 times the ECRR’s dose or 250-360 Megawatts( equivalent to the power of 5 million muscle men to a single DNA or 25% of the 1200 MW at Tarapur ) causes an unmeasurable effect! Surely stop this madness!
No more fish as well and lobsters and langustines. Still no more raindeer up north for meat.
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So you have been on this for some time?
I get the sense as we digest all the info we all have to share that we are about to uncover something that might explain why govts seem to want to avoid the elephant in the room so fervently.
Thanks for sharing!
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Yoou are most welcome! I freeze at the thought of a radioactive mosquito!
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Industry and government will work very hard to avoid disclosure.
Plausible deniability.
The economy is more important than the people.
The second point is the foundation paradigm for current govermental and economic policy in the developed and developing world. Shorthand term to describe this paradigm is ‘Reaganomics’.
The industrial and banking sectors are more important than the people in this system. Corporations are the players. Corporations by their very definition for existence do not and cannot have any interest in the environmental effects of their activities. Only economic outcomes are of interest to corporations.
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Ramaswami, now you HAD to bring up the mosquitoes, didn’t you!? Another angle I never considered….
Peace to you and yours.
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Popeyesmotto you are so right. But when will the govts and corps realize there will be no profits to be had if there are no people left to charge and tax?
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mosquitoes? I was hoping that the rad would kill them off.
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TY…I posted at HP. We’ll see if it comes through. God damn thread is on TIGHT LOCKDOWN.
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I love the HP threads but the shills are pretty hardcore there compared to here! With my opinions I tend to get into some pretty rough exchanges there at times. But I enjoy it all the same.
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I hear you Anthony. I like the Japan regulars so much…but the Cheerleaders always piss me off. All of us have been there since March 11th, day in day out.
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what/where is HP?
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GREAT! Your post made it through at HP.
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Charlie….Huffington Post is HP
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In addition, why are they moving these milk-producing cows NOW at this late date?
Why wait for 2.5 months with these valuable animals that produce milk to be given to …..humans?
I guess that if they did not bother to protect the safety of the countless and priceless human beings in the region, then why protect the cows that produce food for these expendable people.
Yep, that’s true, and with that grim realization, never mind. It is very consistent with these miserable people’s way of thinking to allowing the cows to remain in a contaminated environment for so long.
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You raise good points again. I wonder if moving the cows now is more symbolic for the local population? think about the message it sends to the locals – they wouldn’t move the cows unless it was imperative, you know what i mean? I find the cow angle confusing in that I am certain they killed off all livestock as published in last 30 days.
If they are removing the cows then there would be no reason for humans to remain in the area right? Especially if they are dairy farmers.
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dense media propaganda, at least he had a radiation suit on. anything is better than admitting the obvious.
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A thousand words… and DON’T DRINK THE MILK!!!!
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I wonder if all the media attention to the cows is more for Western consumption than Japanese? I’m pretty sure that the Japanese didn’t traditionally use any dairy products before the American occupation, and so I find it hard to believe that they do now to any appreciable extent. Maybe their dairy production is mainly for foreigners? Or are most of the cattle used for meat?
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Mooya! Japan, we love you! You really care about your animals.
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This disaster has two dead zones to deal with.
1. the dead land zone
The same variables as Chernobyl; the disseminating of radiation coming from rain, snow, runoff, wind, living organisms absorbing and transporting, birds, animals, etc.
2. the dead water zone
This is much worse than Chernobyl. The ocean is in constant motion; tides, waves, fish, food chain dissemination, absorption and dispersion of radiation.
Dual dead zones, with two different sets of concerns, are far more likely than a single dead zone.
In dealing with these kinds of issues for the next 1,000 years at least, complexity is an understatement.
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Bump.
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The only thing we can do for the ocean is to leave it alone and hope it can heal. It is the worst of our human marks. We ruined the other world on this planet and hurt its creature citizens more then we will ever know.
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They never did a thing to our world either.
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NO FLY ZONE!!!
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/affairs/news/110531/dst11053100020000-n1.htm
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Gov’t to scrap upper limit of radiation exposure for workers at Fukushima plant
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110530p2a00m0na008000c.html
THIS IS SO MESSED UP!!!!
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We are next.
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If they haven’t already done so, I’ll bet they’ll soon be raising the acceptable radiation levels in seafood.
I sure would like to check out the produce at a Japanese fish market with a Geiger counter. Then again, they’ll probably soon be banning their use by the general public. They’ll be branded as something that is too prone to upsetting the general populace.
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Hey Whoopie link comes up in Japanese see no translation button. Can you tell me what it says? Thanks to you and everyone else for all informative and interesting posts.
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IN PART
(we’re all having a FIT on HP about this)
The government has decided to abolish the upper cap of radiation exposure for workers at the disaster-crippled Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, drawing concern from experts, it has been learned.
The Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare decided to lift the yearly 50-millisievert maximum permissible amount of radiation exposure for workers at the troubled Fukushima plant in the face of the prolonged restoration work at the facility.
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Here’s a question. WHY are commercial airlines still flying passenger planes straight over the top of Fukushima??? In fact they’ve been taking this path from the beginning. Why don’t they fly well behind it? This jeopardizing of their passengers health just so that they can save money on gas (if that’s the reason) in unconscionable.
Here are two flight paths which my family recently took. The first from LAX in Los Angeles to Hong Kong, and the reverse on the flight back.
This needs investigation. I very much doubt that passengers know what they are flying through.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA885/history/20110414/2005ZZ/KLAX/VHHH
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA882
By the way, the green line is the path as tracked by this tracking technology. The blue dotted line is the path that the airline, in this case Cathay Pacific, logged as their intended path.
Again, WHY?
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If the military is wary of flying over the top of Fukushima why are commercial airlines – without informing their customers?
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Interesting, isn’t it?
You know, I am thinking also about all of those chemtrail pilots who are up there in all of those isotopes while they spray us with poison.
Karma.
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I hope you guys get the picture that Directly Vertical from
Fuku would not be the concern, but DOWNWIND.
I hope you understand, Frustrated-and-Angry, at this
point, it is likely you have had the final Pacific flight of
your Life. It’s almost Over.
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Air France pilots land in Japan and take off again immediately – they have special permission to avoid stopovers in the country.
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So, this would be for only a Fuel Stop? wow.
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Why??
My best guess:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Are you kidding me? Cant be for real!!!!
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Don’t think they have much choice if disaster as bad as we all think if they don’t raise the limit they are effectively legislating no work be done to fix problem.
Can’t just walk away if only for the bad PR.
Sure is messed up though should be the death of nuclear industry everywhere but its not thanks to complicit cover-up of all governments. What a bunch of A**holes!
Obama has or will approve continued use of similar reactors in US some over fault lines. Just cause he’s black and has a nice smile doesn’t make him much different then Kan. Isn’t Japan a free and democratic society? Morbidly interesting to see the cover-up and lies, like a bad science fiction movie with Dr. Evil heading up dark crime syndicate. Where is Superman?
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Sorry Whoopie I meant your first link re No Fly Zone
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Oh the No Fly Zone is 12 miles.
Infrastructure and Transport on March 30, the aircraft no-fly zone was a short 30 km radius of the first primary Hukuzima TEPCO announced the change within 31 to 20 kg.
According to the ministry, to accommodate off-limits and that the land within 20 kilometers, was the change in consultation with the Nuclear Safety Commission. Within 20 km radius – if you fly 30 is an emergency condition that can be saved to fly immediately to 30 km outside. Notify the airline affiliate information out on the 30th.
No-fly zone, or for search and rescue aircraft, helicopters and U.S. military are not eligible.
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In today’s press conference both secretary’s that gave the presentations were questioned about their thoughts in relation to the poll of the Japanese people in which 80% of the people polled distrusted the govt and it’s handling of the Fukushima disaster. Talk about dodge ball.
“The poll conducted by Fuji Television Network also found that nearly 85 percent of respondents said the utility that operates the stricken Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant is dealing with the crisis poorly.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/05/30/general-as-japan-earthquake-poll_8490855.html
So does anyone have a guess as to what a poll in the US would say?
5% Think radiation is good for you.
5% Think there is no problem in Japan.
20% Know nothing.
70% Don’t care.
People must get really jiggity and start bombarding the US govt and those other place that were doing the animations with questions as to why they are covering up the truth and WHY THEY ARE DOING NOTHING TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA and other countries. People should demand the truth from them.
Please start writing, calling, and e-mailing those agencies that are supposed to protect the people. Same with your congress critters and senate toads. Call them, fax them, write letters and email them all and make as much noise as you can. it is downright CRIMINAL for this COVER-UP to continue. This is a disaster that is far beyond comparison to anything else and it is getting worse every day.
Also, how many of you signed this petition and passed it on:
http://petitions.criirad.org/?For-a-total-transparency-on-the
For a total transparency on the airborne radioactivity we are breathing Fukushima (Japon)
There are 60 certified radionuclide stations fully equipped with high precision detectors that are set up around the world to monitor airborne radioactivity on a daily basis with unprecedented accuracy. Their objective : Find low quantities of radioactive particles that could reveal a…
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Can we consider the time we live in now to be the best
it will ever be? Down hill rest of the way. Time for some
Roman stoicism in the face of Fukushima ongoing and
unfolding disaster. Also the Epicureans were right. Enjoy
your life now to the fullest. Not gloom and doom but
trying to forge some meaning and a way in this madness.
The governments are silent. They know the impossibility of
stopping Fukushima and the effects it will have. To ensure
public tranquility they are trying to keep us stupid. Won’t
work.
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Good post.
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Reminder to all who suggested we sue TEPCO, the gov’t, etc. for causing us harm and giving us cancer, it probably will not win in court! There were 2 big U.S. Supreme Court rulings in 2011:
1. No more class action suits!! Scalia writing for court’s majority that companies (like utilities operators) can enforce contracts that bar consumers and employees from banding together to bring class action suits. See summary http://www.npr.org/2011/04/28/135785797/supreme-court-imposes-limits-on-class-actions . You think PG&E Smart Meters are bad? Nuclear is death? Too bad.
2. Supreme Ct/ Scalia also ruled that federal law shields vaccine makers from product-liability lawsuits in state court seeking damages for a child’s injuries or death from a vaccine’s side effects. See http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/22/us-pharma-vaccines-lawsuit-idUSTRE71L41420110222 .
PU, I 131, mercury, aluminum and live monkey virus are good for you. Sorry, you don’t get your day in court — except for your parking tickets!!
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The best sociopaths don’t break the laws,
they make them.
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You are so right.
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Elites feed the masses GMO and contaminated junk food while they enjoy pollution-free organic delicacies.
Big pharma tell you to line-up for toxic vaccines while the Royals use homeopathic remedies.
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that judge is a idiot, and the judicial system like that is bound to fail…
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as justice i mean, failure of justice…
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Here is a website that has 3d maps that works with google earth and has real time radiation detection monitoring all over Japan
it may be informative to some
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****Link is 2 comments down ***
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There are two Fukushimas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_II_Nuclear_Power_Plant
The recent “fire” was in Dai-Ni 1…I do not believe it was a fire.. anymore than I believe it was just a fire in Dai-ichi Reactor 4.
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http://community.pachube.com/node/611#3d
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A fire in the basement of a reactor..basement of a reactor…..sheesh.
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At least they don’t have to worry about working
in the dark.
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I’m too lazy to check it out right now but Tepco, or an expert recently stated that Reactor 1 started to meltdown in response to damage caused by the earthquake, NOT the tsunami. If so, then it’s reasonable to assume that ALL reactors in that area may have suffered serious damage. Of course, they wouldn’t want to admit to that because people might panic.
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I meant to say, “ALL reactors in that area may have suffered serious damage from the quake.”
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http://environmentalresearchweb.org/blog/2011/05/what-happened-at-fukushima.html
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http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/02_01.html
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FROM THE ARTICLE:
“Japan’s Nuclear Safety Agency has claimed that the release of radioactive materials from Fukushima was equal to 10% of those from Chernobyl. ”
???????
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Plans to vent Dai-Ni started March 11, 2011..
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-12/tokyo-electric-starts-venting-reactor-gas-to-relieve-atomic-plant-pressure.html
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Dai-Ni..
This was a month ago.
http://www.enewspf.com/latest-news/latest-national/23959-international-atomic-energy-agency-briefing-on-fukushima-nuclear-accident-2-may-2011-1950-utc.html
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Im sure its been brought up elsewhere but any advice as far as doing yard work? Mowing, trimming weeds, etc… seeings how the stuff loves plant life mowing the grass would likely be making particles airborn again?
I would guess it would be NOT a good idea to NOT wear a face\dust mask?
Test dryer lint for radiation? determine how much crap is on your clothes?
I swear last year yellow Jackets chasing me all around….. Now this !
Hows the housing market in Guam?
Thanks in advance for comments
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Guam is full of Naval Nuclear Weapons and is a miserable place.
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May I ask, what is this HP forum?
Please supply link if you could be so kind.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/28/fukushima-no-5-nuclear-reactor-cooling-facility_n_868528.html#comments
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New exotic tourism experience: 6 days and 7 nights in the Dead Zone.
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Kind of like the exotic, but deadly, puff fish they eat in Tokyo.
The thrill is in the possibility it may kill you.
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It’s called FUGU.
Spot the difference!
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Fugushima fish. Eat that and see how long you have.
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SO when do you think they are going to break the news that everyone has to evacuate japan due to the china syndrome?
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When hell freezes over?
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Far too late to save lives?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRl1VeFZw6k
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Cool Video….
I’m actually taking a Solar class right now.
We gotta remember all the utopian, alternative technologies
are not clean, green, pristine. Your solar panels require toxic
metals, mined in miserable, polluting conditions, by slaves.
This is a timely expose’ and ought to be featured on CNBC for
all those investment-minded folks to gain a little International
Diplomatic/Warfare reality. Great Post Wind-or-Solar!
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I’m afraid that Japan, and maybe the west coast of US, Canada, and Mexico, may not get ‘told’ anything. That is, until the deformed life starts to walk about like a ‘closet-late-term-abortion–that LIVED!”
Or, the US may find it hard to explain how the tsunami wreckage,…perhaps even some bodies,…wash ashore on the Cali, Oregon,..? beaches, while saying that THINGS can’t reach us here from Japan, right? It’s going to take first-hand proof that they can’t kill, hide, buy off, etc,…
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“until the deformed life starts to walk about like a closet-late-term-abortion–that LIVED!”
Godzilla!!!
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Worse, sadder, more tragic than Godzilla.
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Ummmm ……. guys ……..
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I keep flashing back to that CDC Zombie Apocalypse article.
MAYBE, a government agency WAS telling us the truth after all.
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The Government Zombie Corps, also known as the Uruk-Hai,
is currently completing Training at Isengard, preparing for
Deployment at the anticipated Protests in major cities, with
initial action slated for the White Reactionary towns of Rohan.
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Well I can’t wait to see how the various authorities try to hide the contamination levels in the 2012 US west coast blue-fin tuna catch, radiation brought over from offshore coastal waters of eastern Honshu (where this year’s juvenile tuna are spawned) during their annual 3 month Pacific crossing.
Got pre-Fuku tuna?
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I was thinking just the other day that I better go and enjoy one last tuna steak before they’re all too dangerous to eat. As a top of the food chain predator, the odds are that they’ll be loaded with radiation before this is all over.
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Slightly Off-Topic:
Leuren Moret – Depleted Uranium, Eugenics,
De-Population:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMgU9kEe3Vk&feature=BFa&list=WL00356D86ED9BA73D&index=72
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The Government comes to the rescue again?
Japan fails in promise to rehouse 30,000 victims:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8546597/Japan-fails-in-promise-to-rehouse-30000-victims.html
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A human story from Fukushima.
N-plant worker regrets 17-yr career / Forced to leave Fukushima home, devotes self to caring for other evacuees:
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110530002543.htm
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A Human Story – fukushima meldtown: last testimony from japan 30/05/2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZiF6Ig6hHk&feature=channel_video_title
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I guess we’ll be reading something like this pretty soon…
Come and visit beautiful Fukushima. Japan has developed an amazing first!…a new type of hot spring discovered by accident that NEVER cools down! Not only that, the waters have been enhanced with radioactive energy…just as good as the radioactivity of some famous natural springs, only better! After your dip, come and relax in the friendly luxury hotel we’ve built to accommodate the astonishing demand…full gambling facilities ARE available. Hungry? Try some our naturally cooked fish. Cooked in nature so that yucky bugs and parasites are out of the question, and served fresh to you, with your choice of salad or fries. Just now, we’ve got an amazing travel mega-deal happening, so check out our website and book early!
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Perfectly clean and sterile sushi, with tasty tumors and extra eyes!
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A video update I made about Fukushima:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsmlXG-VF-g
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Nuclear sector growth cools down
By FT reporters
Published: May 30 2011 19:33 | Last updated: May 30 2011 19:33
As the shock and fear created by the crisis at the Fukushima reactors have faded, its effect on nuclear power worldwide has become clearer: growth will be slowed, but not stopped.
Countries that were already sceptical about nuclear power, such as Germany, have had their doubts confirmed. A few, including Italy and Switzerland, have moved away from plans for new reactors. In others, such as the US and India, government support for nuclear power has faced increasingly vocal criticism.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/83790ee8-8ac7-11e0-b2f1-00144feab49a.html#axzz1NuchJRSh
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The View at Fukushima: The Reality Show You Never Wanted to See, Goes Live
May. 31 2011 – 2:42 am
http://blogs.forbes.com/oshadavidson/2011/05/31/the-view-at-fukushima-the-reality-show-you-never-wanted-to-see-goes-live/
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Fukushima Daiichi to Appear Live on Web
May 30, 2011, 7:52 PM JST
By Mitsuru Obe
Lights, camera, action: as of Tuesday morning Fukushima Daiichi will literally be in the spotlight.
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2011/05/30/fukushima-daiichi-to-appear-live-on-web/
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Oil found leaking near sea close to crippled Fukushima nuke plant
TOKYO (Kyodo) — Oil has been found leaking into the sea near the crisis-hit Fukushima nuclear power plant, possibly from nearby oil tanks that may have been damaged in the March earthquake and tsunami, the plant operator said Tuesday, adding that it will set up oil fences to prevent the liquid from spreading into the Pacific Ocean.
The oil slick was found at 8 a.m. by Tokyo Electric Power Co. workers who were patrolling the premises of the plant on the Pacific coast, and is believed to be spreading at a 200-300 meter range inside breakwaters.
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110531p2g00m0dm078000c.html
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