Published: June 10th, 2012 at 12:17 pm ET
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Subscription Only: Fukushima Special
Coast to Coast AM with host John B. Wells
June 9, 2012
At 9:15 in
First off, [the radiation levels in bluefin tuna caught on the West Coast are] going up. I’m firmly convinced that when someone steps forward and publishes, we’re going to see higher numbers than what was already detected.
Published: June 10th, 2012 at 12:17 pm ET
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Congratulations to John B. Well's for putting together the 4 hour 'Fukushima Special' last night on Coasttocoastam radio, which went out to some 550 stations and 20-some million listeners, no doubt the biggest public coverage of the disaster in the 15 ensuing months. Maybe our lame authorities will gradually be forced to stop the coverup, and even take action to get containment done on the site.
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"no cesium is good cesium!"
great post admin
settles down with dark chocolate and tea (pre sizewell chinon etc milk
only 2 pints left in the freezer 
)
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Thank goodness we didn't have 15 meltdowns! I wish Arnie wasn't still pro-nuclear, but I thank him wholeheartedly for speaking up about Fukushima, our old reactors and our spent fuel problem. The AP 1000 Toshiba/ Westinghouse design is flawed, as Arnie pointed out "It wouldn't have made it.". Too much weight from the water at the very top. We need to shut down Indian Point. IMHO we should also shut down all Mark I reactors and not relicense old reactors. The U.S. and the world needs to dry cask our spent fuel ASAP.
I wonder what the radiation levels are like in tuna now? I'm concerned about seafood because I want to go diving for abalone here on the west coast, but we've found Fukushima cesium in our kelp. Abalone exclusively eat kelp, but grow at a slow 1/2 inch per year, so it may take a long time for the radiation to bioaccumulate. I don't want to be unnecessarily fearful, but I also want to provide healthy food for my family.
I guess my concerns are trivial compared with those in Japan living next to #4 spent fuel pool. Evacuation of all of Japan, WOW. I wish I had duel New Zealand U.S. passports. (although they have detected Fukushima's signature in NZ ):
No Nukes.
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Radiation monitoring links and rad remediation protocols
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/board,24.0.html
Fukushima fallout forecasts and other rad updates
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
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Thank you ADMIN, for posting this very valuable program. I tried to listen last night, but it was too late to try to listen to 4 hours. I kept dozing off.
@jump-ball calls this "the biggest public coverage of the disaster." I would say it is much more than that; John B. Wells' presentation is also the most thorough, comprehensive, accurate, honest, and essential presentation of what happened and will continue to happen from Fukushima for hundreds of years.
I want to listen to this several times and really digest the information, especially Dr. John Aspey's recommendations for radiation detoxing diet.
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Name correction…Dr. John Apsley.
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Just listened to this great clip – thanks admin for posting it. I was surprised by Arnie saying (@27in) that it was not china syndrome. He said that if you don't get a china syndrome in the first month then you're not going to get one and there was not enough residual heat for it to melt into the bedrock. He also said the good news was that it won't go down but the bad news is that it would go up as flames and smoke – so is this what is happening on the webcam views, the flames we don't see because they are (maybe conveniently <sarc>)out of view, but the smoke, yes we have been seeing plenty of that regularly billowing across the site??
Very interesting……… What do you all think about this?
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I agree with Arnie that the "current" state of the three coriums precludes what some people think the Hollywood worst case scenario of a China Syndrome entails (massive supersonic hydrovolcanic explosion possibly generating an underground crack similar to a giant earthquake). That is not what the inventor of the term projected from my research.
But the use by observers of the term China Syndrome for Fukushima is valid because Ralph Lapp gave it a general definition of corium destruction and release of radiation underground, water, and air.
1957 Lapp interview (flash req.):
http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/multimedia/video/2008/wallace/lapp_ralph.html
It is also possible that the spent fuel in several pools may yet meltdown and produce more China Syndrome effects. I feel perfectly comfortable using the CS terminology for the other coriums and the visual evidences supports Lapp's theory of radiation releases caused by runaway coriums. If anyone thinks to ask Arnie if the coriums are still in a runaway status then I am sure he would agree. They are releasing radioactive gases, steam, smoke, and toxic water by contact. The air vapors are visible, occur frequently and are atypical of a China Syndrome scenario.
Ralph Lapp was an interesting atomic energy scientist, colleague of Fermi and knew well the dangers of radiation. Check out this informative obituary in 2004:
http://m.guardian.co.uk/news/2004/sep/16/guardianobituaries.science?cat=news&type=article
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"If someone publishes..the rates would be found higher".
Is Mr.Gundersen t privileged to this data?
Did he happen to explain why these readings would be higher?
Mr. Gundersen has had plenty of opportunity to view the same materials we have and in my opinion is not telling the truth about the condition of Fukushima.
Spent fuel does not just die out like a charcoal briquette.
The materials are in active fission…and behave in that manner…
"Residual" heat…rather a misnomer.
Gundersen's position allows him to offer endless scientific editoral opportunities.
I, myself,am more concerned about getting help for the people living near Fukushima and the lack of proper evacuation.
Gundersen's downplaying of the situation..has been and will continue to be a hinderance to me.
I'll take it mile by mile ..village by village.. family by family.
If Gundersen is anti-nuke…why doesn't he mention and support the protesters trying to keep Ohi shut down?
Why isn't he yelling.. there is a fault under Ohi? The people need these type of facts to fight the industry.
I still consider Mr. Gundersen the "approved opposition".
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Heart: Sometimes it is hard to differentiate between science and nuke industry disinformation. I'm not a nuke professional, but here's my understanding of corium behavior over time. A chain reaction requires a slowed down neutron to hit a fissionable atom. This atom then becomes an unstable isotope, and releases additional neutrons in order to continue the chain reaction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fission
A moderator, like water, is used in reactors to slow neutrons down, so that when they strike another atom, the atom can absorb the neutron, change into an unstable atom, then fission or split. In a corium, where there is no moderator, nuclear fission is impossible. Instead of continuing a fission chain reaction, corium will continue to dissapate heat through the decay of unstable isotopes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_decay
Over time, the temperature of the corium will drop. From something like 2,200 degrees F during the melt through, to something on the order of 1,500 degrees F after one year. TEPCO could tell us the corium temperatures, because they have been drilling holes under the plants into the bedrock for some months. If TEP.gov gets around to digging these coriums out of the bedrock in 30-50 years, hopefully the residual temperature won't melt the steel bucket of the machine they use to dig it out.
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@phillipupnorth..Thank you for the clarification of terms …and discussion of heat in physical terms.
"Dissapate through the decay of unstable isotopes"..is one..heck of a "fire".
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